August 12, 2025 • 38 mins
Massachusetts Governor Maura Healey is currently facing two challenging local issues. The first being, in no particular order, the ongoing Republic Services trash collectors’ strike that is now heading towards its seventh week. Healey sent a letter to the leadership at Republic Services calling them out for not answering or returning her calls and went on to say, “Your company’s failure to resolve or even meaningfully address this prolonged strike is unacceptable”. The second pressing matter is the indictment of Suffolk County Sheriff Steven Tompkins. Some lawmakers are pushing Healey to remove him from his position but she has yet to make a move, saying these are “serious” allegations in which she wants to know more. We discussed these pressing local issues.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right, thanks very much, Dan Watkins. As we move
into our first talk hour, when you have an opportunity
to weigh in with your point of view. And there's
a interesting, I think scenario developing here which I want to,
you know, call to your attention, UH, and that is
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the governor of Massachusetts more Heally is facing some tough decisions,
and tough decisions decisions are always what show the leadership
ability of elected officials. UH, to be one to be thoughtful,
but then to be decisive and make a decision that uh,
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that will stand the test of time. Uh. The officials
are not elected to basically fluctuate and tell us the
different points of view. So for the two decisions that
more Heally is looking at right now, okay, and I
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want to run the by you is. The first decision
revolves around the indictment of Suffolk County Sheriff Steve Tompkins.
Tompkins is a nice guy. I know him a little bit.
I'm not a close confidante of him by any stretch
of the imagination. He was first appointed to the office
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and then he ran for election. Actually was appointed by
Governor Baker, and he now was he was re elected
in twenty twenty two, and he has is serving a
six year term. I think that's I could be Uh. Yeah,
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he won his comment six year teram and twenty twenty two.
Uh and uh, he would probably be a shoe in
for reelection even with the indictment because those posts basically
are uncontested. One. Once you get to those posts, uh,
in effect, you you dine and you go to political heaven.
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I guess is what what most of us think. Very
rarely is there a major upset.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
And you find someone who has been elected to one
of those well you look at the uh you look
at the the current Secretary of State, Bill Galvant. He's
been he's been around a long time in that office.
It's a lower level constitutional office. And I don't think
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he will you know, he'll he'll either retire or expire
uh in in that office. It's it's as simple as that.
In my opinion, they get into those offices and they
stay there. Uh. It's it's it is justice. It is
it's as simple. It's as simple as that simple. There's
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just no other way to describe it. So so as
a result, Mari heally is facing a difficult decision, very
difficult decision, and she either has to say nothing and
do nothing, which is an option you could she she
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could cite the fact that, uh, an indictment is just
that and and people are innocent until proven guilty, and
an indictment is not a proof of guilt, simple, simple
as that. But uh, she yeah, that's that's one option.
She says, these are serious allegations. Well, there's no question,
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uh that they are serious allegations. There's no question about
that at all. However, she has to address the allegations,
and she hasn't. She basically saying that she needs more information.
I don't know what information, what more information she needs,
but that's that's that's question number one. So my question
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to you in terms of that is what would you
like to see the governor do. There's three things I
guess the governor could do. The governor could call for
his resignation, at least get on the record. She also,
along with the Attorney General, has the right to petition
for his removal. Apparently she doesn't have the ability even
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though she's the governor to remove him from office. She
can tell him she would like to see him leave office,
and if he chose not to do that, then she
could file a petition with the State Supreme Court, and
I think that the State Supreme Court and all probability
would likely go ahead and follow of the request of
the governor or. Or she could say, look, I don't
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really have a strong inclination here and let the chips
fall what they may. That's number one. The second one,
which is perhaps even more troubling, is the Republic trash strike.
That trash strike is now in its seventh week, and
I think most of you know the communities that are affected.
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Some of you live in those communities, and those communities
on their own are making significant efforts which they're trying
to deal with the trash strike. But look, it's been
going on a long time, and the governor now has
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written a strongly worded letter to the head of Republic
Trash Services. I can quote from that letter and it's
there are a Phoenix, Arizona. That's where the President and
Chief Executive Office have the headquarters. So she wrote, as
my attempts to speak with you directly have gone on
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the answer, I'm now writing to express my deep concern
and profound disappointment. It's a deep concern. It's just not
a concern. It's a deep concern and profound disappointment regarding
the ongoing labor strike involving republic service workers in Massachusetts.
And she goes on to talk about how terrible it
is and that the situation is beyond untenable. The fact
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that you haven't returned my calls is a reflection of
your unacceptable approach to this urgent matter. The time for
delay imposturing is over. It is time to resolve this
now strong letter to follow. My administration stands ready to
assist in facilitating dialogue if needed, but make no mistake,
this matter demands your direct attention and immediate action. I'm
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sure this guy is not losing sleep over that letter.
His name is John vander Ark. The point of my
story is the point of this hour is do you
feel that the governor has provided the strong leadership that
is needed in both of these situations, one of which
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I think she has a tremendous amount of control over,
and that is whether or not she wants to grease
the skids for a Democrat, another Democratic elected official. She
obviously is That's not her first instinct, But should it
be and even though it might not be her first instinct,
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should her leadership instincts take over and say, hey, look
at once he's removed. If he is removed either by
resignation or by conviction or by a petition to the
State Supreme Court, she will appoint another Democrat. So there
won't be much change there. And in terms of the
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republic trash strike, I think that a letter seven weeks
into the trash strike, as harsh, as strong as this
might be, I don't think that's going to shake shake
things up here. So I ask you, has the governor
on these two examples which are current. There are crises.
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I think the trash strike is a bigger crisis, But
have these two examples. Has the governor shown the leadership
that you would like to see? So with that, let
us open up the phone line six one seven two
four ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty.
My name is Dan Ray. This is Nightside again. I
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I throw it open to my audience. At ten o'clock tonight,
we will replace some of our interview with astronomer physicist
Harvard professor Harvard University Professor Avi Lobe, which we had
in the last hour. As he is looking at this
item way out in the sky in that quite a
ways away, but it's moving at a pretty a fast
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rate of speed coming in our direction. Well, well, we
will take on the question of life on other planets,
and life and other galaxies, and life in far away places,
but for now, let's stay a little closer to home
right here in Massachusetts. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty, six, one seven, nine three, one ten thirty.
Whether you're a Democrat, Republican, or for that matter, unregistered,
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is the leadership style of Governor Healy. What you voted for,
what you expected, or what you hoped for. We're coming
back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Now, if you're in one of the communities that's affected
by the trash strike, there are fourteen communities, and most
of them are up on the North Shore. We talked
last week with the mayor uh Mayor Mayor Berga of
a Gloucester. Each community is doing their best, but I
don't know that they're getting much help from outside their communities.
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And it has to be miserable, it has to be miserable.
Let me go to Ruth in Westwood. She joins us first. Hi, Ruth, welcome,
thanks for joining us, your next time, your first, This
our first tonight on nightside.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Oh wow, you know I have a little problems that
I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure most of your other liationers, jone,
How okay?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Do me what? Do me a favor? I just want
you to speak right into that telephone, into the mouthpiece, yea,
so we can hear you more clearly. You're not like
on a speakerphone, I.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Hope no, I'm Monzellio footphone. If you want to do
me a favor, you can buy me a new one.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
If I could, I would, Ruth. So, if you speak
right into the mouthpiece, it will maximize the clarity of
the conversation. Go right ahead. I want to hear everything
you have to say.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Is this better?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yes? It is?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Okay. I live in Westwood, and I don't know whether
Westwood in general is affected by the strike, but I
live in an apartment complex. Yeah. And our apartment complex
is serviced by this company.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Okay. Yeah, And you don't have to give us the
name of the company. So the apartment complex. Most people
can understand that you know you have a company that
your apartment complex pays to have trash removed, so go ahead.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
And my problem is that the trash is being removed
on a regular basis, and I don't know who's removing it,
and it bothers me that these people might be scabs,
because no, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I don't think Ruth that ruth. I don't know the
company that removes your trash. I don't whoever you pay
your rent to. I don't know. If you have a
manager on the property, you could ask him and they
would probably be able to tell you. But Westwood generally
is not one of the communities. They could have a
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commercial company, including Republic, coming in there, but they tend to,
I think, do most of their work north of Boston.
To be really honest with you and be the best
way to get an answer on that one is to
is to talk to someone who you pay your rent to,
someone in the office.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
But that's not really my problem.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
My problem is.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I'm support an activity big time, and I don't want
to be a scab. I also want to live with
the Josh any more than anybody else does. So if
it is the same company and they're hiring strike breakers.
I'm not sure what to do. Well, what I'm telling you, Ruth,
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is that I know I discussed.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
It with Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I mean we're talking about you may have.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Your we're talking about we're talking a little bit about morality.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well, actually that's not when we're talking Ruth. To be
honest with you, I appreciate your calling, but I think
that I've given you as as good an answer. If
you find out that you're being serviced by Republic Trash Removal,
the company that is on strike in several communities north
of Boston, and that troubles you, I think you should
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also register that complaint with you the management of your
your your apartment building. Uh. And I admire your integrity,
but that's really not the subject I'm talking about tonight.
So I thank you for calling. Nonetheless, have a great night, Ruth.
Appreciate your call. All Right, let's keep rolling here. Let
me go to Terry, Don and Harwich. Terry, You're next
on Nisaga.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Right ahead, Michael. So, I am not directly involved in
the trash problem. I am a union nurse for many
many years, Okay, and I just tell a Hugh comments Governor.
Heally comes to the governorship after being the Attorney general
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from Massachusetts. She is well seasoned as to labor relations.
And the problem is the National Labor Relations Sport is
responsible for union issues with labor management of any kind.
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The Teamsters, i believe, is the union that represents the
people of the trash disposal companies.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
That is correct, as I understand.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
That we are extremely bright when it comes to how
to negotiate with new union issues for the workplace and
the workers. It would be wrong, in my opinions, for
Governor Hearing to jump in sooner. You'll have to give
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them time to sit down and negotiate. You'll have to
give them time to register unfair labor practice charges with
the National Labor Relations Board in Boston. All of these
things have to play out well.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
The problem the problem. I understand the point you make it, Terry,
but the problem is, and again you're not impacted by this.
The communities that are impacted Beverly, Danvers up north of
north of Boston.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
And they have been living them.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Sorry, I was just trying to make a point. If
I could just finish that point. The point is that
this is a similar situation. Is it's not a teacher strike,
which is illegal in Massachusetts, is not a firefighters strike
or a police officers strike or an EMT strike, but
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it is a strike that has tremendous impact on communities
and their lifestyle. This gives, you know, as the trash
piles up and isn't removed, it gives rodents an opportunity
which carried disease. So it is really a position that
I think the governor has every right to jump in
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the middle of sooner rather than later and try to
get the parties together. The governor, you know, may have
done some things behind the scene that I'm unaware of,
but this is the first letter that I can think of,
and I think that I'm comparing and commenting on to
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two questions. The indictment of the Suffolk County Sheriff and
although she sees it a serious allegation, she hasn't done
anything yet. And also, this trash strike has gone on
for these other communities for I think, way too long.
But again, I understand the point you're making, but I
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suspect we might hear from some folks who have been
dealing with this and it's on. It's it's very difficult
on these people in the state of Massachusetts, particularly during
the summertime.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Terry, Oh, I absolutely feel for the people. Absolutely, this
is unacceptable. But management needs to treat the workers properly,
and that's something corporate issues happen every day. And as
far as the indictment of the sheriff, how sheful is
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she to every community and every law enforcement person and
for the government for the governor to just step in
and say no, he needs to step down. I believe
the comment that I heard was she said it was
serious and she's looking into more information. I think that
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that's very acceptable.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Well, Terry, that's great. I'm glad that you called and
you defended the governor's in action or her decision not
to act, whether you want to phrase it. But on
this one, we're going to disagree on both levels. I
think that you need a strong leadership and you have
to make a decision, and it's a tough decision to make,
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but that's what you paid the big bucks for. Terry.
Is always I appreciate your point of view, whether we
agree or disagree. We agree on Watson, sometimes we disagree,
and tonight we disagreed.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Thanks Terry, I appreciate, appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
You too, Terry, talk to you soon.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Have a great one.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
All right. We got the news at the bottom of
the hour coming up, and I have wide open lines.
So if you agree with Terry and think that the
governor has really been correct on this, I don't know
you can nominate her for a Profile and Courage award.
That's fine. But I think that that on both of
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these items, both of these issues, the governor needed to
do more and she needs to be more decisive, and
being decisive shows leadership. Now there are people out there
who are going to challenge her, and not within the
Democratic Party but within the Republican Party. I don't know
what they're saying about it. I'm not here to carry
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their water, but I am here to look critically at
what the governor has done in this case, in these
two cases which just happened to be very coincide close
in time six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty
six one seven, nine, three one ten thirty. If like Terry,
you want to support the governor's lack of action or
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her decision to stay out of the fray, fine, give
me a call if you think maybe maybe this is
a position that she needs to be concerned about. On
one of both of these. Love to hear from Asuel
six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven, nine,
ten thirty. Coming right back on.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
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Speaker 2 (20:39):
Well, I'm glad that Ruth and Terry called in. Ruth
and Westwood. She seemed to be upset. I was trying
to figure out she seemed to be upset that her
trash was being removed. And I don't know. I couldn't
figure that one out. And Terry is very happy with
Governor Healey and her seeming in action on both of
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these accounts. And guess what, folks, if you're happy with
how things are going, and you happen to live in
one of the communities affected by the strike, Beverly, Mauldon, Gloucester, Pebty, Danvers,
and Canton, and there are other communities by the way
that are affected, although not perhaps as strongly. In Boston
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has been affected because I guess a lot of restaurants
have commercial customers of republic trash. I have no sympathy
for republic trash. I got to be really honest with you.
I feel that there should be some mechanism by which
they would be forced to one stop interfering with the
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efforts to pick up trash. Apparently there are other republic
trash trucks that are not members of the union. I'm
a strong supporter of the Union, but this is a
public health issue. And in terms of Governor Healey and
Sheriff Tompkins read the indictment. Governor read the indictment, and
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your former attorney general. I think that we could, we
should expect the governor to make a statement either in
supportive Sheriff Tompkins or for his removal. But I don't
think we're gonna get that, at least at this point,
particularly when there are voters who are just happy. They're
happy they have a democratic governor and they have a
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democratic legislature and they live in a one party state.
If that's you, I want to hear from you. And
if you're if you're someone who looks at it a
little differently and says, hey, we need a little competition
here to get things better in Massachusetts. We shouldn't have
seven week trash strikes in Massachusetts period. Joe Anne in
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New Hampshire, which has a great governor and had the
best governor in the in the country and Christnunu, Hi,
Joe Ann, how are you.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
I'm good, I'm doing great.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
It's lovely to it's lovely to hear from you. What's
your take on either of both of these topics.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
Well, I disagree with that woman. I think if Governor
Haley had that and her in her neighborhood should be
ending it real quick.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Oh, I would think so, I would think so.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
But yes, I think she's shameful. She's doing nothing about it.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Shameful.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
I used to live in Danvers.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, I will tell you. I will tell you this
every time I've done this subject. I think the people
in some of these communities are hesitant. Beverly, Maldon, Gloucester, Peabody, Danvers,
in Canton. I get emails from all of them, and
they tell me, Oh, it's terrible up here, it's there's
you know whatever. Uh, And I'll send a maxic frea
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call the show. But I think a lot of people
are has it because they don't want the We live
in a democratic state. They don't want their neighbors to
think that they would call up and h and criticize
it is.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
Must be horrendous.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah, I would be concerned from a public health point
of view. Look, if the police go and strike, if
the fire going strike, if that matter, if that if
the teachers union go and strike, they're called the task
for And I think that that there's a there's And
again I support the union. I think that they should
force the union and the company to go into some
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form of arbitration mediation. Uh, and that the that the
union should pay comparable salaries to their workers. And my
understanding is that the union has the much much better
part of the argument here. I hope the union wins.
But in the meantime, I don't want to see people
people suffer. Go ahead, I've dominated the conversation. I want
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to hear it.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
That's okay, right, Well, I agree, I totally agree with this.
And I'm not sure what the sheriff. The whole thing
is with the sheriff. But she has enough obviously probably
has enough information. Why wait, what is she waiting for? Well,
I don't think she belongs in that position.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah. Again, I happen to know the sheriff. He's a
very decent guy. However, the indictment, whenever you get hit
with a federal indictment, that's a tough one to be.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
Can you hear me, I'm going through a THEO.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I hear you, fine, I hear you fine. I agree
with you. I think the governor either has to support
the sheriff and say, look, he's innocent until he's until
he's convicted. Once he's convicted, he's he's forced to the
office is vacated under Massachusetts law. And I think you know,
it's tough, it's tough to beat federal indictments, but you know,
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to say, well, these are serious allegations. I'm going to
continue to think about it. That's not leadership. That's basically
at all. You know, some someone on her.
Speaker 8 (26:09):
Someone or just ignoring it, and that's.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Exactly exactly, and it's someone in the office. Basically, well,
why don't you just say this, acknowledge it's serious. But
you need to you need more time. And guess what,
I can hear you find there's a lot of voters
in Massachusetts who will buy that and say, oh, she's
taking it very seriously.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
If you can't deal with it, let's she's going to
appoint someone to get the information. You can't just pretend
it's not happening.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, it's it's a it's as simple as that, Joe Inn. Again,
things have done differently in New Hampshire. Uh and uh.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
Well I'm only I've only been up here sixty years.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
But did you move from Massachusetts?
Speaker 5 (27:02):
I did. I used to.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
I lived in Danvers and after that I lived in Bradford,
mass and Elman Hampstead.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Okay, well keep the keep a the two parties stayed
alive in Uh, in New Hampshire because it's good that
you don't. You don't want one party to dominate because
then they become complacent. You need you need competition. Yeah,
competition improves everything. We do not have that at this
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point Massachusetts. As you can help. Thanks Joe In.
Speaker 8 (27:35):
Talk to you soon, Okay, thank you, You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
All right, I gotta take quick break, feel free. I
got Dave and Dorchester coming up, got Dolreen and Chelsea
six one seven four six one seven. I will love
to hear from you, particularly if you're impacted adversely by
the strike. I can't imagine what you're going through anyone
in Beverly, Maulden, Gloucester, Peabody, Danvers or Canton. It's it's
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got to be miserable, it's got to be miserable back
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folks want to talk about the Again, the leadership style
of Governor Healy is what we're talking about. And there
are two very important issues that I think she's kind
of behind the curve on. I will throw that out
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there and you can agree and disagree. Let's have a conversation.
Let's go to Dave in Dorchester. Dave here next, un
Night Side. Welcome.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
This is my first Stam calling.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Let's give you a round the watch from our digital
studio audience. Congratulations, Thank you, Dave, go right ahead.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I think the governor needs to put them out. I
agree with you.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, I'm not even I'm not even advocating. What I'm
saying is I would like to see everybody understands their
serious allegations. Okay, what does that mean, guv? Does that
mean he should stay and go to trial and innocent
for reven guilty? You can take that position or you can,
you know, ask him to resign, or you can do nothing.
So what do you what's the taal?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, ask him to resign.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I mean it's pretty serious charges. It's federal indictments are
tough to be they they tend to be very selective,
particularly when they're going after public officials. We saw the
city councilor from not necessarily your city council, but fanders,
the city councilor Andres Fernanda Anderson Fernandez, who will be
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I guess reporting to jail sometime in September. I don't
take any joy in that, Nor do I take any
joy in the indictment of Sheriff Tompkins. I actually have
talked to him several occasions, met him. He seems like
a really nice guy. He made a mistake, he made
a mistake.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Take no joy in none of them. Well, if you
messed up, you gotta go, all right, I.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Got you down loud and clear data.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Yes, she needs to get rid of them who picks
up the trash and hire a new company to do
the trash work at Beverly.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
And then, well, I think that that threat would be
something that I don't want to see the union guys
lose jobs. But put the pressure on the company and say,
if you can't make money, we'll get another company to
do it, and we will hire the teamster's union. And then,
you know, I don't want to see people lose their jobs.
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But again, I don't want to see the company gouge
these towns and not provide a service. That's pretty clear
to me that the group that's in the wrong here
is not the workers, but it's the company as it
normally is.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Not the company is not the work as the toy.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I'm with you. Couldn't agree with you more, Dave, do
me a favorite call more off and I enjoyed our
conversation and uh first time. I don't know how long
you listen, but I want to keep you as a listener,
keep you as a listener, and get you to call
more often.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
Okay, okay, thank you, Dan, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Have a great night. Good night. Oh let me go
next to Doreen and Chelsea. Dorena, I haven't heard from
you in weeks. Are you okay? Everything good?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Yeah, everything's good. You know uh what, Dan, I got
to suggestion one or two room for governor. You walk
right into the office.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
You know what, I'm very happy with what I do.
To be honest with the story. I got enough enough
headaches putting your four hour show together. I I I'm
not I'm not interested in that. I uh, I like
to I like to critique politicians and have never had
any burning desire to become one.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
To be honest with you, Yeah, now is Haley the
governess is from Boston.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I can't live up in New Hampshire, but she's, but
she was the Attorney General and she went to college here,
and so yeah, no, she's she's she was born in
New Hampshire. I think her her family lived in New Hampshire.
But look, there's a lot of politicians who moved in
much later in life than than mar Heally. I would
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I would not.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Accuse her of being Is there a mile radius for
people like police they used to be for police officers,
I know, stay Troup is they can live anywhere right
in the state.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Yeah, right, they're expected to live in Massachusetts. There was
a there's a period of time I think in Boston,
if you go on the job, you're supposed to live
in Boston, I think for a certain number of years. Yeah,
it's it varies from community to community.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Well, a lot of people think that the police officer,
like say Chelsea, should live in Chelsea, you know what
I mean from Chelsea.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Well, that's an argument. I understand that because you're present
more President Chelsea. But at the same time, I don't
think they can make it a requirement that you have
to live forever or for your entire time working for
the department. I don't know that there are any communities
generally after a certain period of years, you then have
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an opportunity to move out. But that doesn't really apply
to what we're talking about tonight. I want to see
this trash strike get over over.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Well, I know the trash and my building is a
federal building, so we have a cover on our trash band,
you know, the big bends.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Now I've seen that company Republic. They go over to
the trash band and the private packing lot in my
next door packing lot, and I see them, and then
lately their trash ban is left open an invitation to
rats and animals. Now I see another truck pull up
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tonight and they were dumping that dumpster across from my
packing lot. The other packing lot privately owned by a man.
They're all condos, very much money. They played there. It
was an all naval hospital.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yep. I'm familiar with it. I'm familiar with it.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Yeah, yeah, So I watched this every night, and I
watched the ones that come in foras early in the
morning and they empty it faifefully every other and we
have the trash bank cover.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Well, that's a good thing. That is a good thing.
And I'll bet your neighborhood is probably free, free of
Rodents Doren. I want to get one more in real quickly.
Here as always so much for I will and if
I run for governor, You're going to be my campaign
manager in Chelsea. Okay.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Oh, I'll help you all spread the words.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
I know you would. Thank you so much, Pressience. It
is good night, Eric. Is it Atliborough? Eric? Next on nights?
Speaker 7 (35:58):
I go right ahead, all right, Hi Dan, thank you
for taking my call. Yeah, my my parents, it's good
to call in again. My parents live in at Me.
I live in Attleborough. My parents live in Canton. And
the way that the trash strike has been well affecting
them is I mean they're in there. You know, they're
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in their seventies. IM in there, you know, not as
uh agile as let's say I am so. I mean
I spend two weeks every week, it should be two
hours every every week rounding up the trash and bringing
it to the public facility. It's it's on Pine Street
and Canton. But I mean, really, which strikes me is
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like just quite interesting, is how the you know a
handful of these communities can'ton PEBT. I mean these are
like high you know, considered wealthy or wealthier communities than
you know one might think where they would be trash
not being picked up. And I looked into the details
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of the strike. I'm all for the workers because the
power of the union, like over the course of decades
has been decimated surely in so many professions, Like it's
like the very necessary well the.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Union that's on striking. The Teamster Sean O'Brien is a
good guy. He's been on this show. He's the president
of the Teamsters. And I think that this company out
of Arizona has a lot of goal to nickel and
dime their employees. It's a tough job that they do.
And I support the union, and I would hope that
a democratic governor would have been supporting the union a
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lot sooner than seven weeks in. And by the way,
I'm disappointed that a lot of my listeners in Canton
and some of these other places haven't called in and
cried foul. To be honest with you, I've tried to
carry the ball for them a little bit. But we're
going to change topics on the other side and let
you go Eric, which Sam flat out of top say.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
Your parents, it should be nationalized. It was nationalized. It
wouldn't be a problem. God bless you.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Dan.
Speaker 7 (38:07):
Have a good night there.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Thanks Eric, talk to you soon. All right, here comes
to the ten o'clock news. Right after, we're going to
review some of the comments that were made earlier tonight
during the eight o'clock hour by Professor Avi Loebe, a
physicist and astronomer at Harvard University. We may soon have
some visitors from another galaxy, far far away. I will
explain right after the ten o'clock News
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right, thanks very much, Dan Watkins. As we move
into our first talk hour, when you have an opportunity
to weigh in with your point of view. And there's
a interesting, I think scenario developing here which I want to,
you know, call to your attention, UH, and that is
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the governor of Massachusetts more Heally is facing some tough decisions,
and tough decisions decisions are always what show the leadership
ability of elected officials. UH, to be one to be thoughtful,
but then to be decisive and make a decision that uh,
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that will stand the test of time. Uh. The officials
are not elected to basically fluctuate and tell us the
different points of view. So for the two decisions that
more Heally is looking at right now, okay, and I
(01:13):
want to run the by you is. The first decision
revolves around the indictment of Suffolk County Sheriff Steve Tompkins.
Tompkins is a nice guy. I know him a little bit.
I'm not a close confidante of him by any stretch
of the imagination. He was first appointed to the office
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and then he ran for election. Actually was appointed by
Governor Baker, and he now was he was re elected
in twenty twenty two, and he has is serving a
six year term. I think that's I could be Uh. Yeah,
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he won his comment six year teram and twenty twenty two.
Uh and uh, he would probably be a shoe in
for reelection even with the indictment because those posts basically
are uncontested. One. Once you get to those posts, uh,
in effect, you you dine and you go to political heaven.
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I guess is what what most of us think. Very
rarely is there a major upset.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
And you find someone who has been elected to one
of those well you look at the uh you look
at the the current Secretary of State, Bill Galvant. He's
been he's been around a long time in that office.
It's a lower level constitutional office. And I don't think
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he will you know, he'll he'll either retire or expire
uh in in that office. It's it's as simple as that.
In my opinion, they get into those offices and they
stay there. Uh. It's it's it is justice. It is
it's as simple. It's as simple as that simple. There's
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just no other way to describe it. So so as
a result, Mari heally is facing a difficult decision, very
difficult decision, and she either has to say nothing and
do nothing, which is an option you could she she
(03:32):
could cite the fact that, uh, an indictment is just
that and and people are innocent until proven guilty, and
an indictment is not a proof of guilt, simple, simple
as that. But uh, she yeah, that's that's one option.
She says, these are serious allegations. Well, there's no question,
(03:54):
uh that they are serious allegations. There's no question about
that at all. However, she has to address the allegations,
and she hasn't. She basically saying that she needs more information.
I don't know what information, what more information she needs,
but that's that's that's question number one. So my question
(04:17):
to you in terms of that is what would you
like to see the governor do. There's three things I
guess the governor could do. The governor could call for
his resignation, at least get on the record. She also,
along with the Attorney General, has the right to petition
for his removal. Apparently she doesn't have the ability even
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though she's the governor to remove him from office. She
can tell him she would like to see him leave office,
and if he chose not to do that, then she
could file a petition with the State Supreme Court, and
I think that the State Supreme Court and all probability
would likely go ahead and follow of the request of
the governor or. Or she could say, look, I don't
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really have a strong inclination here and let the chips
fall what they may. That's number one. The second one,
which is perhaps even more troubling, is the Republic trash strike.
That trash strike is now in its seventh week, and
I think most of you know the communities that are affected.
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Some of you live in those communities, and those communities
on their own are making significant efforts which they're trying
to deal with the trash strike. But look, it's been
going on a long time, and the governor now has
(05:47):
written a strongly worded letter to the head of Republic
Trash Services. I can quote from that letter and it's
there are a Phoenix, Arizona. That's where the President and
Chief Executive Office have the headquarters. So she wrote, as
my attempts to speak with you directly have gone on
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the answer, I'm now writing to express my deep concern
and profound disappointment. It's a deep concern. It's just not
a concern. It's a deep concern and profound disappointment regarding
the ongoing labor strike involving republic service workers in Massachusetts.
And she goes on to talk about how terrible it
is and that the situation is beyond untenable. The fact
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that you haven't returned my calls is a reflection of
your unacceptable approach to this urgent matter. The time for
delay imposturing is over. It is time to resolve this
now strong letter to follow. My administration stands ready to
assist in facilitating dialogue if needed, but make no mistake,
this matter demands your direct attention and immediate action. I'm
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sure this guy is not losing sleep over that letter.
His name is John vander Ark. The point of my
story is the point of this hour is do you
feel that the governor has provided the strong leadership that
is needed in both of these situations, one of which
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I think she has a tremendous amount of control over,
and that is whether or not she wants to grease
the skids for a Democrat, another Democratic elected official. She
obviously is That's not her first instinct, But should it
be and even though it might not be her first instinct,
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should her leadership instincts take over and say, hey, look
at once he's removed. If he is removed either by
resignation or by conviction or by a petition to the
State Supreme Court, she will appoint another Democrat. So there
won't be much change there. And in terms of the
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republic trash strike, I think that a letter seven weeks
into the trash strike, as harsh, as strong as this
might be, I don't think that's going to shake shake
things up here. So I ask you, has the governor
on these two examples which are current. There are crises.
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I think the trash strike is a bigger crisis, But
have these two examples. Has the governor shown the leadership
that you would like to see? So with that, let
us open up the phone line six one seven two
four ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty.
My name is Dan Ray. This is Nightside again. I
(08:44):
I throw it open to my audience. At ten o'clock tonight,
we will replace some of our interview with astronomer physicist
Harvard professor Harvard University Professor Avi Lobe, which we had
in the last hour. As he is looking at this
item way out in the sky in that quite a
ways away, but it's moving at a pretty a fast
(09:08):
rate of speed coming in our direction. Well, well, we
will take on the question of life on other planets,
and life and other galaxies, and life in far away places,
but for now, let's stay a little closer to home
right here in Massachusetts. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty, six, one seven, nine three, one ten thirty.
Whether you're a Democrat, Republican, or for that matter, unregistered,
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is the leadership style of Governor Healy. What you voted for,
what you expected, or what you hoped for. We're coming
back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Now, if you're in one of the communities that's affected
by the trash strike, there are fourteen communities, and most
of them are up on the North Shore. We talked
last week with the mayor uh Mayor Mayor Berga of
a Gloucester. Each community is doing their best, but I
don't know that they're getting much help from outside their communities.
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And it has to be miserable, it has to be miserable.
Let me go to Ruth in Westwood. She joins us first. Hi, Ruth, welcome,
thanks for joining us, your next time, your first, This
our first tonight on nightside.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Oh wow, you know I have a little problems that
I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure most of your other liationers, jone,
How okay?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Do me what? Do me a favor? I just want
you to speak right into that telephone, into the mouthpiece, yea,
so we can hear you more clearly. You're not like
on a speakerphone, I.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Hope no, I'm Monzellio footphone. If you want to do
me a favor, you can buy me a new one.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
If I could, I would, Ruth. So, if you speak
right into the mouthpiece, it will maximize the clarity of
the conversation. Go right ahead. I want to hear everything
you have to say.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Is this better?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yes? It is?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Okay. I live in Westwood, and I don't know whether
Westwood in general is affected by the strike, but I
live in an apartment complex. Yeah. And our apartment complex
is serviced by this company.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Okay. Yeah, And you don't have to give us the
name of the company. So the apartment complex. Most people
can understand that you know you have a company that
your apartment complex pays to have trash removed, so go ahead.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
And my problem is that the trash is being removed
on a regular basis, and I don't know who's removing it,
and it bothers me that these people might be scabs,
because no, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I don't think Ruth that ruth. I don't know the
company that removes your trash. I don't whoever you pay
your rent to. I don't know. If you have a
manager on the property, you could ask him and they
would probably be able to tell you. But Westwood generally
is not one of the communities. They could have a
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commercial company, including Republic, coming in there, but they tend to,
I think, do most of their work north of Boston.
To be really honest with you and be the best
way to get an answer on that one is to
is to talk to someone who you pay your rent to,
someone in the office.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
But that's not really my problem.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
My problem is.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I'm support an activity big time, and I don't want
to be a scab. I also want to live with
the Josh any more than anybody else does. So if
it is the same company and they're hiring strike breakers.
I'm not sure what to do. Well, what I'm telling you, Ruth,
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is that I know I discussed.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
It with Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I mean we're talking about you may have.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Your we're talking about we're talking a little bit about morality.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well, actually that's not when we're talking Ruth. To be
honest with you, I appreciate your calling, but I think
that I've given you as as good an answer. If
you find out that you're being serviced by Republic Trash Removal,
the company that is on strike in several communities north
of Boston, and that troubles you, I think you should
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also register that complaint with you the management of your
your your apartment building. Uh. And I admire your integrity,
but that's really not the subject I'm talking about tonight.
So I thank you for calling. Nonetheless, have a great night, Ruth.
Appreciate your call. All Right, let's keep rolling here. Let
me go to Terry, Don and Harwich. Terry, You're next
on Nisaga.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Right ahead, Michael. So, I am not directly involved in
the trash problem. I am a union nurse for many
many years, Okay, and I just tell a Hugh comments Governor.
Heally comes to the governorship after being the Attorney general
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from Massachusetts. She is well seasoned as to labor relations.
And the problem is the National Labor Relations Sport is
responsible for union issues with labor management of any kind.
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The Teamsters, i believe, is the union that represents the
people of the trash disposal companies.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
That is correct, as I understand.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
That we are extremely bright when it comes to how
to negotiate with new union issues for the workplace and
the workers. It would be wrong, in my opinions, for
Governor Hearing to jump in sooner. You'll have to give
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them time to sit down and negotiate. You'll have to
give them time to register unfair labor practice charges with
the National Labor Relations Board in Boston. All of these
things have to play out well.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
The problem the problem. I understand the point you make it, Terry,
but the problem is, and again you're not impacted by this.
The communities that are impacted Beverly, Danvers up north of
north of Boston.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
And they have been living them.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Sorry, I was just trying to make a point. If
I could just finish that point. The point is that
this is a similar situation. Is it's not a teacher strike,
which is illegal in Massachusetts, is not a firefighters strike
or a police officers strike or an EMT strike, but
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it is a strike that has tremendous impact on communities
and their lifestyle. This gives, you know, as the trash
piles up and isn't removed, it gives rodents an opportunity
which carried disease. So it is really a position that
I think the governor has every right to jump in
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the middle of sooner rather than later and try to
get the parties together. The governor, you know, may have
done some things behind the scene that I'm unaware of,
but this is the first letter that I can think of,
and I think that I'm comparing and commenting on to
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two questions. The indictment of the Suffolk County Sheriff and
although she sees it a serious allegation, she hasn't done
anything yet. And also, this trash strike has gone on
for these other communities for I think, way too long.
But again, I understand the point you're making, but I
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suspect we might hear from some folks who have been
dealing with this and it's on. It's it's very difficult
on these people in the state of Massachusetts, particularly during
the summertime.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Terry, Oh, I absolutely feel for the people. Absolutely, this
is unacceptable. But management needs to treat the workers properly,
and that's something corporate issues happen every day. And as
far as the indictment of the sheriff, how sheful is
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she to every community and every law enforcement person and
for the government for the governor to just step in
and say no, he needs to step down. I believe
the comment that I heard was she said it was
serious and she's looking into more information. I think that
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that's very acceptable.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Well, Terry, that's great. I'm glad that you called and
you defended the governor's in action or her decision not
to act, whether you want to phrase it. But on
this one, we're going to disagree on both levels. I
think that you need a strong leadership and you have
to make a decision, and it's a tough decision to make,
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but that's what you paid the big bucks for. Terry.
Is always I appreciate your point of view, whether we
agree or disagree. We agree on Watson, sometimes we disagree,
and tonight we disagreed.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Thanks Terry, I appreciate, appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
You too, Terry, talk to you soon.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Have a great one.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
All right. We got the news at the bottom of
the hour coming up, and I have wide open lines.
So if you agree with Terry and think that the
governor has really been correct on this, I don't know
you can nominate her for a Profile and Courage award.
That's fine. But I think that that on both of
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these items, both of these issues, the governor needed to
do more and she needs to be more decisive, and
being decisive shows leadership. Now there are people out there
who are going to challenge her, and not within the
Democratic Party but within the Republican Party. I don't know
what they're saying about it. I'm not here to carry
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their water, but I am here to look critically at
what the governor has done in this case, in these
two cases which just happened to be very coincide close
in time six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty
six one seven, nine, three one ten thirty. If like Terry,
you want to support the governor's lack of action or
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her decision to stay out of the fray, fine, give
me a call if you think maybe maybe this is
a position that she needs to be concerned about. On
one of both of these. Love to hear from Asuel
six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven, nine,
ten thirty. Coming right back on.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
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Speaker 2 (20:39):
Well, I'm glad that Ruth and Terry called in. Ruth
and Westwood. She seemed to be upset. I was trying
to figure out she seemed to be upset that her
trash was being removed. And I don't know. I couldn't
figure that one out. And Terry is very happy with
Governor Healey and her seeming in action on both of
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these accounts. And guess what, folks, if you're happy with
how things are going, and you happen to live in
one of the communities affected by the strike, Beverly, Mauldon, Gloucester, Pebty, Danvers,
and Canton, and there are other communities by the way
that are affected, although not perhaps as strongly. In Boston
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has been affected because I guess a lot of restaurants
have commercial customers of republic trash. I have no sympathy
for republic trash. I got to be really honest with you.
I feel that there should be some mechanism by which
they would be forced to one stop interfering with the
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efforts to pick up trash. Apparently there are other republic
trash trucks that are not members of the union. I'm
a strong supporter of the Union, but this is a
public health issue. And in terms of Governor Healey and
Sheriff Tompkins read the indictment. Governor read the indictment, and
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your former attorney general. I think that we could, we
should expect the governor to make a statement either in
supportive Sheriff Tompkins or for his removal. But I don't
think we're gonna get that, at least at this point,
particularly when there are voters who are just happy. They're
happy they have a democratic governor and they have a
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democratic legislature and they live in a one party state.
If that's you, I want to hear from you. And
if you're if you're someone who looks at it a
little differently and says, hey, we need a little competition
here to get things better in Massachusetts. We shouldn't have
seven week trash strikes in Massachusetts period. Joe Anne in
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New Hampshire, which has a great governor and had the
best governor in the in the country and Christnunu, Hi,
Joe Ann, how are you.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
I'm good, I'm doing great.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
It's lovely to it's lovely to hear from you. What's
your take on either of both of these topics.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
Well, I disagree with that woman. I think if Governor
Haley had that and her in her neighborhood should be
ending it real quick.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Oh, I would think so, I would think so.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
But yes, I think she's shameful. She's doing nothing about it.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Shameful.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
I used to live in Danvers.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, I will tell you. I will tell you this
every time I've done this subject. I think the people
in some of these communities are hesitant. Beverly, Maldon, Gloucester, Peabody, Danvers,
in Canton. I get emails from all of them, and
they tell me, Oh, it's terrible up here, it's there's
you know whatever. Uh, And I'll send a maxic frea
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call the show. But I think a lot of people
are has it because they don't want the We live
in a democratic state. They don't want their neighbors to
think that they would call up and h and criticize
it is.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
Must be horrendous.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah, I would be concerned from a public health point
of view. Look, if the police go and strike, if
the fire going strike, if that matter, if that if
the teachers union go and strike, they're called the task
for And I think that that there's a there's And
again I support the union. I think that they should
force the union and the company to go into some
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form of arbitration mediation. Uh, and that the that the
union should pay comparable salaries to their workers. And my
understanding is that the union has the much much better
part of the argument here. I hope the union wins.
But in the meantime, I don't want to see people
people suffer. Go ahead, I've dominated the conversation. I want
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to hear it.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
That's okay, right, Well, I agree, I totally agree with this.
And I'm not sure what the sheriff. The whole thing
is with the sheriff. But she has enough obviously probably
has enough information. Why wait, what is she waiting for? Well,
I don't think she belongs in that position.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah. Again, I happen to know the sheriff. He's a
very decent guy. However, the indictment, whenever you get hit
with a federal indictment, that's a tough one to be.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
Can you hear me, I'm going through a THEO.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I hear you, fine, I hear you fine. I agree
with you. I think the governor either has to support
the sheriff and say, look, he's innocent until he's until
he's convicted. Once he's convicted, he's he's forced to the
office is vacated under Massachusetts law. And I think you know,
it's tough, it's tough to beat federal indictments, but you know,
(25:58):
to say, well, these are serious allegations. I'm going to
continue to think about it. That's not leadership. That's basically
at all. You know, some someone on her.
Speaker 8 (26:09):
Someone or just ignoring it, and that's.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Exactly exactly, and it's someone in the office. Basically, well,
why don't you just say this, acknowledge it's serious. But
you need to you need more time. And guess what,
I can hear you find there's a lot of voters
in Massachusetts who will buy that and say, oh, she's
taking it very seriously.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
If you can't deal with it, let's she's going to
appoint someone to get the information. You can't just pretend
it's not happening.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, it's it's a it's as simple as that, Joe Inn. Again,
things have done differently in New Hampshire. Uh and uh.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
Well I'm only I've only been up here sixty years.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
But did you move from Massachusetts?
Speaker 5 (27:02):
I did. I used to.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
I lived in Danvers and after that I lived in Bradford,
mass and Elman Hampstead.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Okay, well keep the keep a the two parties stayed
alive in Uh, in New Hampshire because it's good that
you don't. You don't want one party to dominate because
then they become complacent. You need you need competition. Yeah,
competition improves everything. We do not have that at this
(27:30):
point Massachusetts. As you can help. Thanks Joe In.
Speaker 8 (27:35):
Talk to you soon, Okay, thank you, You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
All right, I gotta take quick break, feel free. I
got Dave and Dorchester coming up, got Dolreen and Chelsea
six one seven four six one seven. I will love
to hear from you, particularly if you're impacted adversely by
the strike. I can't imagine what you're going through anyone
in Beverly, Maulden, Gloucester, Peabody, Danvers or Canton. It's it's
(28:06):
got to be miserable, it's got to be miserable back
on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
After this, you're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
By the way, again, i want to remind you that
you can if you're a little cautious about calling the show.
We have a new talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app.
Make sure you download the app. It's free, it's new
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And so while you're listening to the night Side Live
(28:38):
on WBZ News Radio or during the day, you can
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And as long as this clean. It can be a
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We'll play it back on Nightside. It's that simple. Once again,
hit that red microphone button in the top right corner
(28:58):
of the app while listening to night or during the day,
and you can send us your audio message. In the meantime,
we'll get back to the phone calls and see what
folks want to talk about the Again, the leadership style
of Governor Healy is what we're talking about. And there
are two very important issues that I think she's kind
of behind the curve on. I will throw that out
(29:20):
there and you can agree and disagree. Let's have a conversation.
Let's go to Dave in Dorchester. Dave here next, un
Night Side. Welcome.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
This is my first Stam calling.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Let's give you a round the watch from our digital
studio audience. Congratulations, Thank you, Dave, go right ahead.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I think the governor needs to put them out. I
agree with you.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, I'm not even I'm not even advocating. What I'm
saying is I would like to see everybody understands their
serious allegations. Okay, what does that mean, guv? Does that
mean he should stay and go to trial and innocent
for reven guilty? You can take that position or you can,
you know, ask him to resign, or you can do nothing.
So what do you what's the taal?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, ask him to resign.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I mean it's pretty serious charges. It's federal indictments are
tough to be they they tend to be very selective,
particularly when they're going after public officials. We saw the
city councilor from not necessarily your city council, but fanders,
the city councilor Andres Fernanda Anderson Fernandez, who will be
(30:36):
I guess reporting to jail sometime in September. I don't
take any joy in that, Nor do I take any
joy in the indictment of Sheriff Tompkins. I actually have
talked to him several occasions, met him. He seems like
a really nice guy. He made a mistake, he made
a mistake.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Take no joy in none of them. Well, if you
messed up, you gotta go, all right, I.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Got you down loud and clear data.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Yes, she needs to get rid of them who picks
up the trash and hire a new company to do
the trash work at Beverly.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
And then, well, I think that that threat would be
something that I don't want to see the union guys
lose jobs. But put the pressure on the company and say,
if you can't make money, we'll get another company to
do it, and we will hire the teamster's union. And then,
you know, I don't want to see people lose their jobs.
(31:43):
But again, I don't want to see the company gouge
these towns and not provide a service. That's pretty clear
to me that the group that's in the wrong here
is not the workers, but it's the company as it
normally is.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Not the company is not the work as the toy.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I'm with you. Couldn't agree with you more, Dave, do
me a favorite call more off and I enjoyed our
conversation and uh first time. I don't know how long
you listen, but I want to keep you as a listener,
keep you as a listener, and get you to call
more often.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
Okay, okay, thank you, Dan, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Have a great night. Good night. Oh let me go
next to Doreen and Chelsea. Dorena, I haven't heard from
you in weeks. Are you okay? Everything good?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Yeah, everything's good. You know uh what, Dan, I got
to suggestion one or two room for governor. You walk
right into the office.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
You know what, I'm very happy with what I do.
To be honest with the story. I got enough enough
headaches putting your four hour show together. I I I'm
not I'm not interested in that. I uh, I like
to I like to critique politicians and have never had
any burning desire to become one.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
To be honest with you, Yeah, now is Haley the
governess is from Boston.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I can't live up in New Hampshire, but she's, but
she was the Attorney General and she went to college here,
and so yeah, no, she's she's she was born in
New Hampshire. I think her her family lived in New Hampshire.
But look, there's a lot of politicians who moved in
much later in life than than mar Heally. I would
(33:24):
I would not.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Accuse her of being Is there a mile radius for
people like police they used to be for police officers,
I know, stay Troup is they can live anywhere right
in the state.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Yeah, right, they're expected to live in Massachusetts. There was
a there's a period of time I think in Boston,
if you go on the job, you're supposed to live
in Boston, I think for a certain number of years. Yeah,
it's it varies from community to community.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Well, a lot of people think that the police officer,
like say Chelsea, should live in Chelsea, you know what
I mean from Chelsea.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Well, that's an argument. I understand that because you're present
more President Chelsea. But at the same time, I don't
think they can make it a requirement that you have
to live forever or for your entire time working for
the department. I don't know that there are any communities
generally after a certain period of years, you then have
(34:23):
an opportunity to move out. But that doesn't really apply
to what we're talking about tonight. I want to see
this trash strike get over over.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Well, I know the trash and my building is a
federal building, so we have a cover on our trash band,
you know, the big bends.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Now I've seen that company Republic. They go over to
the trash band and the private packing lot in my
next door packing lot, and I see them, and then
lately their trash ban is left open an invitation to
rats and animals. Now I see another truck pull up
(35:02):
tonight and they were dumping that dumpster across from my
packing lot. The other packing lot privately owned by a man.
They're all condos, very much money. They played there. It
was an all naval hospital.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yep. I'm familiar with it. I'm familiar with it.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Yeah, yeah, So I watched this every night, and I
watched the ones that come in foras early in the
morning and they empty it faifefully every other and we
have the trash bank cover.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Well, that's a good thing. That is a good thing.
And I'll bet your neighborhood is probably free, free of
Rodents Doren. I want to get one more in real quickly.
Here as always so much for I will and if
I run for governor, You're going to be my campaign
manager in Chelsea. Okay.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Oh, I'll help you all spread the words.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
I know you would. Thank you so much, Pressience. It
is good night, Eric. Is it Atliborough? Eric? Next on nights?
Speaker 7 (35:58):
I go right ahead, all right, Hi Dan, thank you
for taking my call. Yeah, my my parents, it's good
to call in again. My parents live in at Me.
I live in Attleborough. My parents live in Canton. And
the way that the trash strike has been well affecting
them is I mean they're in there. You know, they're
(36:23):
in their seventies. IM in there, you know, not as
uh agile as let's say I am so. I mean
I spend two weeks every week, it should be two
hours every every week rounding up the trash and bringing
it to the public facility. It's it's on Pine Street
and Canton. But I mean, really, which strikes me is
(36:46):
like just quite interesting, is how the you know a
handful of these communities can'ton PEBT. I mean these are
like high you know, considered wealthy or wealthier communities than
you know one might think where they would be trash
not being picked up. And I looked into the details
(37:06):
of the strike. I'm all for the workers because the
power of the union, like over the course of decades
has been decimated surely in so many professions, Like it's
like the very necessary well the.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Union that's on striking. The Teamster Sean O'Brien is a
good guy. He's been on this show. He's the president
of the Teamsters. And I think that this company out
of Arizona has a lot of goal to nickel and
dime their employees. It's a tough job that they do.
And I support the union, and I would hope that
a democratic governor would have been supporting the union a
(37:44):
lot sooner than seven weeks in. And by the way,
I'm disappointed that a lot of my listeners in Canton
and some of these other places haven't called in and
cried foul. To be honest with you, I've tried to
carry the ball for them a little bit. But we're
going to change topics on the other side and let
you go Eric, which Sam flat out of top say.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
Your parents, it should be nationalized. It was nationalized. It
wouldn't be a problem. God bless you.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Dan.
Speaker 7 (38:07):
Have a good night there.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Thanks Eric, talk to you soon. All right, here comes
to the ten o'clock news. Right after, we're going to
review some of the comments that were made earlier tonight
during the eight o'clock hour by Professor Avi Loebe, a
physicist and astronomer at Harvard University. We may soon have
some visitors from another galaxy, far far away. I will
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