March 11, 2025 • 41 mins
Massachusetts Governor Maura Healey announced her plan for lowering energy bills for residents. Part of her plan includes a $50 credit residents will see on their April electric bills. Dan discussed the governor’s plan, and we heard about how you’re cutting back if at all. How are you tackling the cost of your energy bill?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nice eyes.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm going you razy Boston's News Radio. One of the
things that I would like to suggest to people is
this if if you feel your energy supply charges are
too high, here's the website here in Massachusetts where you
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can compare what you're paying. All you have to do
is go to your energy bill. Okay, whether it's again,
whatever the company is, whether it's National Grid and or
ever Source or unitool, you go to this website. I'll
be going to the website tomorrow, so therefore I want
you to also have this opportunity. It's all one word
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mass energy rates, so it's m A S S E
N E R G Y rates r A t ees,
dot com slash Massachusetts hyphen Electricity hyphen suppliers, rob if
you can write that down in case people miss it,
Mass Energy rates, dot com slash Massachusetts Hyphen Electricity hyphen suppliers.
(01:09):
At that point, you will be asked to select your utility.
Your choices are pretty easy. National Grid, ever Source, UNITIL.
Now this is for electricity, So in my instance, I
just selected my supplier. It's one of three choices. Okay.
Then it says select account type. It's real simple. Residential
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commercial or large commercial. So I'm residential. Then you're asked
to put in your zip code. It's as simple as
putting in your zip code five letters. Then it says
compare electricity rates. You will be brought to a point
where you can select the rates that you feel are
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most reasonable for you. Okay. There's a whole bunch of
suppliers Direct Energy, Clearview Energy, Constellation Energy, Direct Energy, Discount Power.
Now all of them are different rates, different times. Twelve
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month fixed rate, eighteen month fixed rate, six month fix rate.
Some have no cancelation fees, some have a cancelation fee.
I will probably tomorrow go and sign up for it
looks to me like maybe a nine month fixed rate
get me through the year twelve point nine to nine
(02:36):
cents per kilowatt hour. Okay, I'm currently because they just
raised my rate the company that I was with, apparently
my contract went out. I'm going to cut my rate
in half, so please take advantage of this tomorrow. Go
to mass Energy rates dot com slash compare hyphen mass
hyphen Electricity hyphen rates. There are those in power on
(03:00):
Beacon Hill who want to take this option away from you. Okay,
and we will talk about that at some point as well.
Now I'm going to continue. I'd love to talk about
this for the balance of the program. I think it's
a really important issue. It's a local issue here in Massachusetts,
but it also plays in other states around the country
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because rates are going up in other states around the country.
Let's go next to Chris down in the Cape. Chris,
I appreciate your patience holding through the news. You're next
on Nightside, Chris.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Are you ready, yeady?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well, Chris, I've just introduced You're welcome to Nightside. What's
your point you're on here? Go ahead? Hello you there, Rob, Yes, yeah,
I'm here. Chris. Put him on hold and I'll come
back to him. Let me go to Deborah in Marlborough. Deborah,
you are next on Nightside. Go right ahead.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Hi again. I'm so glad that you're talking about this,
and I know everybody else is in the same situation
as me. But I got a monthly electric bill actually
for a thousand dollars, and you know what, I live
in a little mobile home. Can you imagine the highest
I've ever paid for my electricity during the wintertime was
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around five five fifty And I got a bill for
one thousand dollars in the second the last month, the
same thing. And I just hope that something can be done.
And I'm going to tell you this bozo, that's the governor.
I didn't vote for her, and I'm not voting for
her the next time. And I hope she's gone.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well she wants to run for president?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Oh, I know she does.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
I know.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Can you see that?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Really anything is possible in America exactly.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
And then the other thing I'm thinking is it's going
to be at the point where I mean, I live
by myself here in a small mobile home. That's what
I get for my electric bill. And I'm thinking to myself,
I'm going to actually I'll probably wind up being homeless.
And if that happens, I'm sitting outside her her her
mansion and with a sign. Really okay, I cannot even
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believe it.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Let me encourage you to do this. While you were
on hold, I gave this play this website. Are you
going to you? O?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Yes, I got it, And I'm definitely gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Great, okay, Because what you can do is, and there
are some of these rates. What you should do is
look on your bill and where Bill says, let me.
Let me direct you to where you where you want
to look. Where you look on your bill? Who's who's
your electrical suppliers? That ever source?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
National Grid? Oh no, it's National Grid.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Well, at some point there you should see that there's
a generation service charge okay, which is your in effect,
your supplier charge. And I tell you how many killowat
hours you used for that, you know, the last month, okay, okay,
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and it'll say however many killer what hours? Then it
will say kW H for killowat hours times, and then
it'll tell you what you're paying per killowat hour. Okay,
my generation service charge for my electric bill. It's not
National Grid, another supplier more than doubled okay. And I
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think what happened was I was asleep at the switch, okay.
And and I think that that when this supplier, when
my contract ended, I was with this company called Smart
Energy out of Hazleton, Pennsylvania. I will be calling him
in the morning, okay. So yeah, oh yeah, And I
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think what you should do is you go to the website,
find out what you're paying. Do you know offhand what
you're paying for kill a one hour? Or no?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
You probably I have to bill but I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, well you could find it. It will simply say
you're you're how many killow hours you use? Uh? And
you can find that because they have to give you
your monthly killer what use and others hopefully are listening
to me as well. So you you look at the
number of KILLO one hours. Then you find where it
says generation service charge, and that will tell you what
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you pay. It will say times point some number. And
then you go on this website and you find a
better rate, simple as that, and you can you know,
you can pick your supplier. They're going to try to
take this choice away from us. Up there on be
con okay, and and do me a favor. Let me know.
Rob will give you my direct line, give me a
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call tomorrow, and if you need any help navigating the system,
I'll call you and help you.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Okay, Oh all right, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
You stay right there. Rob will give you my direct line. Uh.
And if you're running into problems either way, I want
you to call me and let me know how you
how you make out, Okay, thanks Debbie up. Rob will
take care of you. Here we come back, we're gonna
be talking with Chris and Cape cod he's gonna be
second this hour. The only line that is open right
now is six one seven. Look, we can use this
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program to help each other. That's what we're doing tonight.
And if you are, if you're at a computer, just
go to the website mass Energy rates dot com slash
compare hyphen mass hyphen Electricity hyphen rates, Grab your electric bill,
look at it. You'll see. I'll be making my phone
call tomorrow. I was asleep at the switch. That's my fault.
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But I'm gonna get it corrected tomorrow. Back on Nightside
right after this. Now back to Dan ray line from
the Window World.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Night Side Studios on WBZ the news radio.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Back to the phones. Let's give it Chris another shot. Here,
another bite at the apple. Chrissy, you're there, Yes, I
am hi. I have no idea what happening before? What
were you away from the phone per chance for now?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
No? No, I have a home problem that it's sort
of irrelevant, but I did get back to it and
here I am God. I can't thank you enough for
this public service. I'm like you. I have a bunch
of electric bills from different properties that I have and
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for the first time earlier this week. I actually scrutinized
because I was kind of shocking odd by the amount,
and I started looking at the items that are surcharged of.
I don't know if it's seven or ten. I don't
have the bills in front of me, but I was
shot by and I said, I think you'd be doing
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beyond the public service you're doing tonight by illuminating this.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Well, here's what can I just jump in for a second.
And by the way, I apologize for interrupting, but thank
you for the kind comments. I do this because I
believe in it. Okay, I'm in a position where I
have a radio station that supports me. I have a
microphone and people can listen or they can choose not
to listen. But I want them to listen. And if
I can help people tonight, let me give you an example.
(10:24):
We complain about gas prices. Gasoline prices, we all we
drive by gas stations, we see what the price is,
we decide we buy gas, we don't. We go to
the store and we complain about egg prices and we
either buy them or we don't. But the price is there.
You look at one of these bills that you get
and the real important information is buried in the bill.
(10:46):
There's so much crap here on the bill the average
person cod read it.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Right. Well, that happened. I happened for the first time
this week scrutinized one of those and I said, this
is hieroglyphics. Uh, and it's a sham. And I think
in furtherance of the public service that you do for us,
you should have the one or all of the commissioners
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be examined and cross examined by you as to each
in one of these each and every one of these
items to be substantiated. I also looking into this for
the first time ever, because I just routinely, you know,
reflexively pay these bills as most people do. Yes, yes,
And I worry about the you know, the people that
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aren't as well off as the rest of us may be,
that they just do the same thing as I do.
But they're getting just hosed. I tell you, in the vernaculus.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
You're so right, and they're getting screwed, is what they're getting.
That's what that's what's going on. But you're right, And
the problem is that you have older people whose visions
has failed is failed a little bit. You have people
who are busy, They're just trying to live their life.
You know, I just think about gas station. We complain
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about gas, but you drive into a gas station there
for five minutes, you pay ten dollars or twenty dollars,
or you fill your tank and you're all set. It's easy. Supermarkets, yeah,
I complain about supermarkets like everything. You know, the prices
are too high. But guess what, I got a choice.
Do I want to buy those Oreo cookies for five
forty nine? No way. I love Oreo cookies, but I'm
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not going to buy them until they come down in price.
It's as simple as that. Do I need those Peppers Farm,
you know triple chocolate chip dark chocolate cookies that I
love for five ninety nine? No way, no way. But
when when you try to read these bills it is hieroglyphics,
you're absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
And when you think about it, which I did. That
happened to be coincidentally with my review of this first
time ever. Maybe I was thinking who appoints these commissioners?
And I saw it either an article in the Globe
or the Herald that said the governor appoints. Well, that's
not according to my information. It is the secretary of
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the Executive Office of the Energy and Environmental Affairs affairs
emphasis added, what affair are they having? Most of those
of the three, at least two out of three, have
no connection to Massachusetts. They're copt baggers and don't have
any idea about the struggles of the people. That I
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learned today, fifty percent of our population, if they had
a one thousand dollars unexpected bill, like a repair your
car bill, they wouldn't be able to pay it. Come on,
I think you need to have I mean, you don't
need to do anything better. I'm just suggesting that, in
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furtherance of this topic, that you have one, two, three,
or all of them, or if not, the governor or,
in particular the appointing authority, which I understand it to be,
which was incorrect correctly reported not once but twice in
our local mainstream newspapers of Massachusetts. They referred to it
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as the governor to the appointing authority. I've learned, and
I may irong, but it's the Executive Office of Energy
and Environmental Affairs, and the governor has a veto over that.
In other words, you're right, the governor has it read
it to you.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You're right, You're right. The department is overseen by the
three member Commonwealth Utilities Commission, appointed by the Secretary of
the Executive Office of Energy and Environmental Affairs, with approval
by the Governor. Right the secret the Secretary designates one
of the commissioners as chair. Below you can learn about
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our commission. So the chair is a guy named James
Jamie van Nostrend Okay. He was an adjunct professor at
Pace University in White Plains, New York. He received his
environmental law degree at Pace University, jd from the University
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of Iowa College of Law, and a master's degree in
economics from Sunny at Albany, an undergraduate degree in economics
from the University of Northern Iowa. So this guy is Iowa.
In New York. Commissioner Cecil Fraser. She received the Bachelor's
of Arts degree in political science from Fordham University and
her j d from Rutgers University School of Law in Camden.
(15:44):
So she's from New Jersey. She was appointed by a
Governor Baker's office okay, and then the last one Stacy
Ruben Commissioner. She at least went to her law degree
is from Northeastern University at a public health degree from
HUFFS and a Master of Policy from Vermont Law School
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undergraduate degree from New York University. So they none of
them are pure Massachusetts residents, none of the three, that's
for sure. Stacy Rubin is the one that is closest.
But I gotta tell you, you know that the Secretary
of Environmental Affairs is not in point pointing her cousin
Ernie to a position like that. This is all with
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the approval of the governor. So the buck, as Harry
Truman said, the buck stops at the big desk, simple
as that. All right. I love the call, Chris, please
keep calling Knights. I tell your friends about Nightside as well. Okay,
we'll do. Thank you, Chris, appreciate you. Dan, good night.
Let me go next to I'm gonna get Paul in Plymouth.
In Paul, you were next on Nightside. Welcome Dan.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Hey, listen, you know, as far as these bills go,
when they generate electricity at Apollo Plant, it's tied in
on this parallel grid, so they're talking about delivery and transmission.
It's the same thing. And i'd like to know, uh, well,
you already you just said it. I mean, these people
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have absolutely no qualification in electrical engineering or an electrician
anything like that. Any electrical engineer electrician knows uh that
these these are just trumped up charges and the duplicity.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Well, for the for the most part. The three who
were on and I'm a lawyer, okay, but I don't
understand the stuff. One guy has his jd from the
University of Iowa Law School. Uh Uh, he also worked
at the West Virginia University School of Law. The second
one has the j D. She's a lawyer from Rutgers
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University School of Law in Camden, New Jersey. Uh. And
the third one has a law degree from Northeastern University
School of Law. Okay, can of them have any expertise
in this? These are three people who never should have
been appointed, one by Baker, two by by the current governor.
Governor heally.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
Right.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
They have no background in electrical or an electricity period,
and they're the ones that are making the I'm sure they're,
you know, very smart people and proficient in their field,
but why are they making the decisions on about electricity
when they have no background in electricity?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Well, Paul, Paul, you and I are smart people. Okay,
but let's assume Bob Kraft called you and said, hey, Paul,
I want you to be the coach of the Patriots
and Dan is going to be your defensive coordinator. How
do you think we do, Paul?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Oh, I don't know. I don't hope we'd make it
to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I don't think so. No, But I'm not joking when
I say that, the fact of the matter is that
these are political point is this this group of three
when the governor said, you know, we want the editor
companies to give something back, they they ordered them to
give back five percent five percent, and the energy company said,
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we'll give back ten percent. So these knuckleheads, as as
the Great Tom Andino would say, these knuckleheads, they should
have said you got to give back twenty percent. But no,
it's like you're making it too easy on us. Commissioners.
We gotta make we got to give back ten percent
to at least make it look good. And and this right, that's.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Why I did to hire you know, and uh, well,
let's say.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
The government that's in competence, that that is absolute incompetence.
You're the commissioners, you're asking for five percent and the
people that you're regulating saying no, we'll do you better.
We'll give you ten percent. Governor Healy should should ask
for the letters of resignations of those three people tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
She won't, I agree, she won't. Get some engineers and
electricians on that.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
That's what they need.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I'm with you this, this is this is a scandal. Okay.
It is a scandal, and the governor needs to step
up to it. This is the sort of thing that
if she wants to run for president, this is gonna
come back. This is like what Boston Harbor was to
Mike Dukakis. This is the sort of thing that the
Republicans would do if if she ever became the Democratic nominee.
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And I'm not betting a lot of money on that.
All Right, I gotta run, Paul, Thank you so much.
Appreciate your calling.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Okay again, but thanks you very much.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Good night.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Don't talk to you soon, good night, okay. Six one seven, two,
five four ten thirty six one seven nine three one
ten thirty. By the way, I have a big announcement
to make later on tonight, so I'm not gonna make
it on the air. I'll make it on the air tomorrow,
but I do a show on I shouldn't say a show.
We do what's called night side postgame on Facebook. If
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you're listening tonight and you're near a computer at midnight,
go to your Facebook page and find Nights with Dan Ray.
I'm going to be making an announcement in advance of
an announcement tomorrow night, but I want my most loyal listeners,
who are people who who check in with me after
the show on Facebook, to get a little bit of
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a head start on this. The only line open right now,
we got one line six, one, seven thirty. All of
a sudden, this topic has taken off. I am so
delighted that people are interested in this because, guess what,
They're picking your pockets back on night side. And by
the way, the government is what's doing who is allowing
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them to pick your pockets back on nightside? After this,
you're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio. Yesterday, Governor Healy had a news conference about
these bills. When I say these bills, I'm not talking
about these legislative bills. These these bills from energy companies.
(21:59):
This is the governor are cut thirty five cut thirty five, Rob.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
And costs in other ways. All Right, every single day,
I want you to know that this team, this administration
and I as Governor am laser focused on lowering costs
for people around Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
And one of the biggest budgetbusters.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
That we've seen lately is what people saw on gas bills,
electric bills, heating bills the last couple of months.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Laser focused. You weren't laser focused, Governor in October when
your DPU commissioners were granting increases. You know, maybe laser
focused now because you know people are upset. Where was you?
Where was your team? Governor? Didn't they know that these things?
I mean, the average person doesn't attend DPU meetings, Governor,
(22:51):
These would be the questions that I would ask the governor,
But I don't think the governor has any interest in
coming on the show on this topic. And again, all
sorts of promises here, Okay, here's one. The question is
this is what the governor said. This is cut forty,
Rob going to talk about all the steps she's going
to take. Cut forty.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
We estimate that these steps, taken together, will save Massachusetts
residents five point eight billion dollars over the next five years, almost.
Speaker 8 (23:21):
Six billion dollars.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
We're going to save money back.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
To you over the next five years.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Now, the people who are clapping there, for the most part,
were members of the governor's staff, state employees. I mean,
do you believe that. I'll believe it when I see it.
To be honest with you, you're not going to save it
with this group of DPU commissioners. Let's go to the phones.
We're going to go to Miller in Lawrence, Lawrence Miller,
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Let's do me a favorite Rob, put them on hold,
and we'll never called the radio station before. Okay, that's
good too. Let's go to Joe in Boston. Joe, you're
next on nightside. Go right ahead, Joe.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
Good evening.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Then, my brother, Joe, how are you. This is not
a happy topic we're talking about tonight.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
No, it's not hard imaginally looking at some of the notes.
I don't know if you remember about twenty seventeen eighteen,
Kelly Baker had a guy on one of those environmental
boards that he was caught on a hot mic saying
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that he was going, we just got to try to
make a hurt for the people, to make them aware
that they have to save energy there was up in
New Hampshire and the guy had to pull it back
and he ended up getting fired after that. Yeah, that
was one of those people. Yeah, those are the people
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that we have on the on the part of the
public utilities. Who are these people? I mean, you don't
have any electricion in debt. You don't have anybody who
has been run in a power plant that can put
things forward for us. I got fifty bucks that are
going to go have dinner this week. Do you think
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that I can't afford to have dinner this week with
fifty bucks?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Maybe at McDonald's.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
Not even that's insulting then, I mean what they are
doing is I mean, and I feel so so bareful
people on fixed income? Yeah, I mean then by bill
from six plus with two one thousand dollars, I mean,
(25:48):
come on, I mean, thank god, I'm able to you know,
with my family, I'm able to handle that. But it's
just ridiculous and how somebody in a fixed income can't
handle that. And the DPU who appointing these people, one
of them was by Charlie Baker, you know, the two.
(26:12):
But this healing what what by healing? What are they getting?
I mean they are giving money. I want to know
the contribution from the utility companies to the candidates, because
that's how that is done. Oh and they went, oh,
we're going to take off, you know, the bills from
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from the next two months, and didn't just give them
to you in the middle of the summer. They were
not supposed to be their first starters. I mean, it's
just it's like borrowing.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
It's like borrowing money. It's like borrowing. It's like borrowing
money from from a bookie. You gotta pay it back
and you gotta pay a little interest. It's the same thing.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
To eliminate. They have to eliminate all those lobbyists because
that's what they do with That's the same thing that
they do with the insurance. My insurances been going up
to the room and guess what, I have an excellent
driving record and nothing has changed, nothing has changed whatsoever. However,
they raise the insurance off. Why what's the reason for.
(27:17):
It's just insane. They need a dolge over here, a
local dolge. I mean, I will call it a double d.
If they can allow that you have disacled actually to
get into these things, I mean those it might be
payful now but it's probably one of the greatest inventions
because you can dig in and find out where the
(27:40):
waste is in government, because it's so much waste in government.
And if they can establish that from the federal level
and just strick down and bring it down to the
local government levels, from the governor to the unity, every
(28:03):
single level to a leaminate way. If you're gonna leave
meate ways, we'll be a fine I'm with.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
You totally, Joe, Joe, Well said, my friend Well said, Uh,
it's up. It's up to the people now to sort
of start to stand up and say, hey, we've taken
enough here and we can't take it anymore. This is
this is this is stuff, tough stuff.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
Joe, all right, thank you, man. I appreciate you, my brother.
You have a lovely evening. I love you and your family.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Love love your family and you as well. Thank you, Joe,
appreciate it. Thank you very much. Look, hey, let me
get going here. I'm gonna go back and see if
we get Miller and Lawrence here. Let's give Miller and
Lawrence a second shot. Miller, you got a second life here,
go ahead. Miller.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
All right, Buddy, Danny, sorry about that. Dan. So I'll
never say up to watch the miners thing, but I
did because heally was on last week on television.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Okay, yes, yes Myers, right, yep.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
Yeah, yes, I had a thirteen minute spot. Spent eleven
minutes talking about her a professional basketball career of two
years in Austria.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Very important, very very important. To watch out the language. Heah,
we got to bleep that. Remember we're on Family Radio.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Go ahead, all right, dad? Uh damn. So in closing,
she says people should no, New England was a great state.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
No, I think it's called the region. But wow, I
didn't realize that. Now if Donald if Donald Trump had
said that, if Donald Trump, do you think that the
networks would have been all over him or yeah?
Speaker 7 (29:50):
Who it was? It was a nice representation of the
state at all.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Well, we are the aristocracy of the elect right, they're
in Massachusetts. All right, Mella, have you called before? I know?
Is this your first time I had?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I had?
Speaker 7 (30:08):
Yeah, I have to have type of time.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
All right. Well I was a little I thought you're okay,
what I got you. I didn't think you'd hear me.
That's why we put you on old Thanks for thanks
for sticking with us call talk again. Thank you very much,
good night. Again, we're trying to help people tonight cut
their utility bills legally. We'll explain one more time on
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the other side. And again, as they say, I do
have a special announcement tonight. If you normally listen on
night Side Nightside postgame, just go to Facebook if you
have a Facebook account, and you'll be able to find
Nightside Postgame and I'll be there at about twelve oh two.
We'll be back on Nightside right after this. If you'd
like to join the conversation. I get a couple more
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calls in six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty six, one, seven, nine, three, one,
ten thirty Back on Nightside after this. Now back to
Dan Ray live from the Window World night Side Studios
on WBZ News Radio. All right, let's get back to
our calls. We're going to wrap the This has been
(31:14):
an interesting evening and I do appreciate all the calls tonight.
This has been it's been fun and I again am
happy to try try to help you out a little
bit here. It's as simple as that. We're just trying
to work together. We got everybody. Let's keep rolling here.
Let me go to Joe Inn in Waltham. Joe In
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next on nice that we'll get you in under the
wire here, joe In, go right.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Ahead, thank you. Dan. Yeah. I pay my daughter's electric bill,
and I've been paying it for like eight years. You know,
it's always like one hundred maybe one hundred and fifty
in the summer. In November, National Grid was having difficulty
(32:02):
with their billing department, and I tried to pay her
bill and they kept saying, we're having difficulties, so we
can you know, can't do it now. All through December,
same thing. Finally I called December twenty six and it
said she had a credit of four hundred and fifteen dollars,
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So I said, wonderful. You know, that's great. He changed
her meter in early December. In February she didn't get
any bills at all. In February she got nine bills
all at the same time, nine bills.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
And separate bills, yeah, separate.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
For how many months.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
It went way back to like May. I don't know,
you know that.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Joe Inn, that's an issue that involves your daughter and you,
and you know that doesn't have application. And what we're
really talking about tonight. We're talking about tonight the level
of money that people are asking be paid in Massachusetts,
and I think lack of oversight by the government in
the final Sleep at the Switch.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Yeah, the final bill said nineteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Well, I guess if it was nine bills. You divide
it and it's like two hundred dollars a month. I
don't know, Joe inn I.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Well, no one bill said zero, you know, but I
called them and they said, well that's what it is.
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
It's just not very helpful, that's for sure. No, Joe
inn I'm trying to get you know, the news between
macro and micro yours is a micro problem. It needs
a microscope to figure it out, and it probably is
not doesn't have great application to most of my audience.
We're talking about the mike, the macro problem that the
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DPU commissioners here in Massachusetts, we're asleep at the switch.
The governor needs to ask for their resignation.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
In my opinion, Well, you know, they want the climate
change thing, she said. I heard her say there was
eighty dollars per bill going towards climate stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
At least at least thanks Joanne, I got to run.
I got a bunch. Okay, you got to get to
Thank you much. Talk to you soon. Fill in Boston, Phil,
next on Nice, I go ahead, Phil, Hi, don't.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
I gotta be quick?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Well?
Speaker 9 (34:36):
You hit all you should be a p and you're
hitting all all the right keys. I just I got
my National Group bill sitting outside here, walk right by it.
I'm afraid to open her now. The bottom line is
you hit on all the right keys. And you said
people have other things loriable they can't figure out.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
I don't know what to kill?
Speaker 9 (34:56):
What is that make a sound like they do in you?
A favor? Good to kill? What I had? A guy
combined now on the door and said, well he wanted me.
I signed a car like an idiot. I signed a
contract to get the well the fransaity where I signed that? Well,
what did I just done? There'll be the finest kid.
He was in and around, and then I try to
call the number for the company. I was here for
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longer than I was taught, finding it only you. I
was talking like twelve fourteen hours, funny at the Bulas phone.
Oh we got the things as all we are recording
I couldn't get I'm telling you. It's something's got to
be done. It's crazy, it's like torture. It's unbelievable. I'm sorry,
I'm rambling. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
No, no, no, no, no. First first and first of all,
I hear your frustration. Your frustration is justified. And I
don't care who you vote for, but when we elect
someone to the state House, they need to put a
team in place. I don't expect Mare Healy to be
sitting at very DPU hearing and she has to have
a Secretary of Energy who follows some That was a
(35:58):
big meeting and they gave they gave a big fat
with kiss the DPU condisioners. They're the problem, and the.
Speaker 9 (36:06):
Government money the lottery and they're gonna make him going
to fire off for a ticket next week. You can't
make the stuff up. How abatters some money?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Well, maybe I shouldn't regulize. I think what happens is
you legalize betting everywhere and everybody can bet on everything, all.
Speaker 9 (36:31):
Becoming addicts between them. Anyway, sorry about that guy.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Guys Phil, you have a great one. Good night, you
deserve it. Thanks. Say say if you can bet like
on Laftyan soccer Max matchups, maybe that does detract a
little bit from the very successful Massachusetts lottery. Jeff is
in Whitman. Jeff, you were next on Nightside. Welcome, Hey Dan.
Speaker 10 (36:59):
I mean I've done the audit of like all my
different services, and a lot of them. I've got rid
of AT and T. I'm almost ready to get rid
of Comcast or Internet and looking for better services. So
for my electric bill, I signed up with Arbor and
they'll negotiate short term contracts for you on who has
the least uh the lowest rate. So and that's worked
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out for me and I don't have to sit there
for hours going okay, is a clear sky is at?
This company is a fat company?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
So I say, just so I understand it. There's a
company that you use that negotiates your rates. What is
that company?
Speaker 10 (37:41):
It's called Arbor, like a grape arbor?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (37:50):
And did they automatically set it up for you each time?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
So they they charge? Do they charge you for that
service or do.
Speaker 10 (37:59):
They get a piece of the auction They somewhere get
a piece of the action.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Okay, So is Arbor energy dot com?
Speaker 10 (38:08):
I'm not sure the exact weber dress, but yeah, that's them.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Okay, well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I'll find them and I'll report to the audience tomorrow night.
Speaker 10 (38:18):
Sounds good, sir, appreciate Jeff.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Thank you much, a great How much time we got, Roub.
What do we got? Okay, Jim, gonna stick you in
here real quickly at the end. Got about a minute
for you.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Go ahead, Jim, I don't need him in I got
ten seconds. All right. This is a very simple idea.
Two words. Headband flash light. I mean, typically I would
only recommend it for people who are desperate, but it
sounds like you're desperate, So headband flashlight. And the other
thing is if you're living in an apartment, make sure
that the apartment building isn't running something off of your
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electric I live in an apartment one time there running
the laundry room off of my electric thing. So those
are to thanks. Get your next call, thanks dan By,
have a.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Great night, Jim. Okay, thanks all right. Jim always comes
up with likes to sneak in late and come up
with something that says that's interesting. Okay. So I want
to thank everyone to call it tonight through a bunch
of first time callers, which I appreciate a whole lot.
I want to thank We had a great conversation with
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David Urban, CNN contributor. He happens to be a Trump supporter.
He's sort of the one of the two House Conservatives
at CNN. He also now serves on the board of
directors the Edward M. Kennedy Institute for the US Senate.
It was a great hour. If you get a chance
you if you missed it, you want to listen to
(39:44):
that tomorrow, robill get it all posted on Nightside on demand.
We did two hours in the Massachusetts energy bills and
who's to blame? I think I placed it very squarely
at the feet of the Department of Public Utilities commissioners,
three people and the governor, in my opinion, should be
asking for their resignation or firing them tomorrow because they
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did not do the job last fall. Anyway, I'm gonna
make an announcement tonight at Nightside at our Facebook page.
So if you're on Facebook, go to Dan Ray Nightside
with Dan Ray and a very interesting announcement which I
think all of you it's not a bad announcement, it's
a good announcement and we'll have a I will also
(40:29):
follow up on that announcement on the ed tomorrow night.
But I want to give those of you who are
the most ardent supporters of Nightside first opportunities. At this
we're done for the night. Rob Brooks, thank you very much. Mariita,
thank you very much. All dogs, all cats, all pets
go to heaven. That's my pal Charlie Rays, who passed
fifteen years ago in February. That's why all your pets
who have passed you love them. I do believe you'll
(40:51):
see them again. Hope to see yain tomorrow night at Nightside.
Have a great Wednesday. Everyone had a fun show tonight.
Let's do it again tomorrow night. Tomorrow night, we're gonna
talk about long COVID, long covet Tomorrow night at nine
o'clock
It's nice eyes.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm going you razy Boston's News Radio. One of the
things that I would like to suggest to people is
this if if you feel your energy supply charges are
too high, here's the website here in Massachusetts where you
(00:22):
can compare what you're paying. All you have to do
is go to your energy bill. Okay, whether it's again,
whatever the company is, whether it's National Grid and or
ever Source or unitool, you go to this website. I'll
be going to the website tomorrow, so therefore I want
you to also have this opportunity. It's all one word
(00:45):
mass energy rates, so it's m A S S E
N E R G Y rates r A t ees,
dot com slash Massachusetts hyphen Electricity hyphen suppliers, rob if
you can write that down in case people miss it,
Mass Energy rates, dot com slash Massachusetts Hyphen Electricity hyphen suppliers.
(01:09):
At that point, you will be asked to select your utility.
Your choices are pretty easy. National Grid, ever Source, UNITIL.
Now this is for electricity, So in my instance, I
just selected my supplier. It's one of three choices. Okay.
Then it says select account type. It's real simple. Residential
(01:31):
commercial or large commercial. So I'm residential. Then you're asked
to put in your zip code. It's as simple as
putting in your zip code five letters. Then it says
compare electricity rates. You will be brought to a point
where you can select the rates that you feel are
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most reasonable for you. Okay. There's a whole bunch of
suppliers Direct Energy, Clearview Energy, Constellation Energy, Direct Energy, Discount Power.
Now all of them are different rates, different times. Twelve
(02:13):
month fixed rate, eighteen month fixed rate, six month fix rate.
Some have no cancelation fees, some have a cancelation fee.
I will probably tomorrow go and sign up for it
looks to me like maybe a nine month fixed rate
get me through the year twelve point nine to nine
(02:36):
cents per kilowatt hour. Okay, I'm currently because they just
raised my rate the company that I was with, apparently
my contract went out. I'm going to cut my rate
in half, so please take advantage of this tomorrow. Go
to mass Energy rates dot com slash compare hyphen mass
hyphen Electricity hyphen rates. There are those in power on
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Beacon Hill who want to take this option away from you. Okay,
and we will talk about that at some point as well.
Now I'm going to continue. I'd love to talk about
this for the balance of the program. I think it's
a really important issue. It's a local issue here in Massachusetts,
but it also plays in other states around the country
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because rates are going up in other states around the country.
Let's go next to Chris down in the Cape. Chris,
I appreciate your patience holding through the news. You're next
on Nightside, Chris.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Are you ready, yeady?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well, Chris, I've just introduced You're welcome to Nightside. What's
your point you're on here? Go ahead? Hello you there, Rob, Yes, yeah,
I'm here. Chris. Put him on hold and I'll come
back to him. Let me go to Deborah in Marlborough. Deborah,
you are next on Nightside. Go right ahead.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Hi again. I'm so glad that you're talking about this,
and I know everybody else is in the same situation
as me. But I got a monthly electric bill actually
for a thousand dollars, and you know what, I live
in a little mobile home. Can you imagine the highest
I've ever paid for my electricity during the wintertime was
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around five five fifty And I got a bill for
one thousand dollars in the second the last month, the
same thing. And I just hope that something can be done.
And I'm going to tell you this bozo, that's the governor.
I didn't vote for her, and I'm not voting for
her the next time. And I hope she's gone.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well she wants to run for president?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Oh, I know she does.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
I know.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Can you see that?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Really anything is possible in America exactly.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
And then the other thing I'm thinking is it's going
to be at the point where I mean, I live
by myself here in a small mobile home. That's what
I get for my electric bill. And I'm thinking to myself,
I'm going to actually I'll probably wind up being homeless.
And if that happens, I'm sitting outside her her her
mansion and with a sign. Really okay, I cannot even
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believe it.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Let me encourage you to do this. While you were
on hold, I gave this play this website. Are you
going to you? O?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Yes, I got it, And I'm definitely gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Great, okay, Because what you can do is, and there
are some of these rates. What you should do is
look on your bill and where Bill says, let me.
Let me direct you to where you where you want
to look. Where you look on your bill? Who's who's
your electrical suppliers? That ever source?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
National Grid? Oh no, it's National Grid.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Well, at some point there you should see that there's
a generation service charge okay, which is your in effect,
your supplier charge. And I tell you how many killowat
hours you used for that, you know, the last month, okay, okay,
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and it'll say however many killer what hours? Then it
will say kW H for killowat hours times, and then
it'll tell you what you're paying per killowat hour. Okay,
my generation service charge for my electric bill. It's not
National Grid, another supplier more than doubled okay. And I
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think what happened was I was asleep at the switch, okay.
And and I think that that when this supplier, when
my contract ended, I was with this company called Smart
Energy out of Hazleton, Pennsylvania. I will be calling him
in the morning, okay. So yeah, oh yeah, And I
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think what you should do is you go to the website,
find out what you're paying. Do you know offhand what
you're paying for kill a one hour? Or no?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
You probably I have to bill but I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, well you could find it. It will simply say
you're you're how many killow hours you use? Uh? And
you can find that because they have to give you
your monthly killer what use and others hopefully are listening
to me as well. So you you look at the
number of KILLO one hours. Then you find where it
says generation service charge, and that will tell you what
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you pay. It will say times point some number. And
then you go on this website and you find a
better rate, simple as that, and you can you know,
you can pick your supplier. They're going to try to
take this choice away from us. Up there on be
con okay, and and do me a favor. Let me know.
Rob will give you my direct line, give me a
(07:53):
call tomorrow, and if you need any help navigating the system,
I'll call you and help you.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Okay, Oh all right, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
You stay right there. Rob will give you my direct line. Uh.
And if you're running into problems either way, I want
you to call me and let me know how you
how you make out, Okay, thanks Debbie up. Rob will
take care of you. Here we come back, we're gonna
be talking with Chris and Cape cod he's gonna be
second this hour. The only line that is open right
now is six one seven. Look, we can use this
(08:25):
program to help each other. That's what we're doing tonight.
And if you are, if you're at a computer, just
go to the website mass Energy rates dot com slash
compare hyphen mass hyphen Electricity hyphen rates, Grab your electric bill,
look at it. You'll see. I'll be making my phone
call tomorrow. I was asleep at the switch. That's my fault.
(08:46):
But I'm gonna get it corrected tomorrow. Back on Nightside
right after this. Now back to Dan ray line from
the Window World.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Night Side Studios on WBZ the news radio.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Back to the phones. Let's give it Chris another shot. Here,
another bite at the apple. Chrissy, you're there, Yes, I
am hi. I have no idea what happening before? What
were you away from the phone per chance for now?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
No? No, I have a home problem that it's sort
of irrelevant, but I did get back to it and
here I am God. I can't thank you enough for
this public service. I'm like you. I have a bunch
of electric bills from different properties that I have and
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for the first time earlier this week. I actually scrutinized
because I was kind of shocking odd by the amount,
and I started looking at the items that are surcharged of.
I don't know if it's seven or ten. I don't
have the bills in front of me, but I was
shot by and I said, I think you'd be doing
(09:54):
beyond the public service you're doing tonight by illuminating this.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Well, here's what can I just jump in for a second.
And by the way, I apologize for interrupting, but thank
you for the kind comments. I do this because I
believe in it. Okay, I'm in a position where I
have a radio station that supports me. I have a
microphone and people can listen or they can choose not
to listen. But I want them to listen. And if
I can help people tonight, let me give you an example.
(10:24):
We complain about gas prices. Gasoline prices, we all we
drive by gas stations, we see what the price is,
we decide we buy gas, we don't. We go to
the store and we complain about egg prices and we
either buy them or we don't. But the price is there.
You look at one of these bills that you get
and the real important information is buried in the bill.
(10:46):
There's so much crap here on the bill the average
person cod read it.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Right. Well, that happened. I happened for the first time
this week scrutinized one of those and I said, this
is hieroglyphics. Uh, and it's a sham. And I think
in furtherance of the public service that you do for us,
you should have the one or all of the commissioners
(11:14):
be examined and cross examined by you as to each
in one of these each and every one of these
items to be substantiated. I also looking into this for
the first time ever, because I just routinely, you know,
reflexively pay these bills as most people do. Yes, yes,
And I worry about the you know, the people that
(11:38):
aren't as well off as the rest of us may be,
that they just do the same thing as I do.
But they're getting just hosed. I tell you, in the vernaculus.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
You're so right, and they're getting screwed, is what they're getting.
That's what that's what's going on. But you're right, And
the problem is that you have older people whose visions
has failed is failed a little bit. You have people
who are busy, They're just trying to live their life.
You know, I just think about gas station. We complain
(12:12):
about gas, but you drive into a gas station there
for five minutes, you pay ten dollars or twenty dollars,
or you fill your tank and you're all set. It's easy. Supermarkets, yeah,
I complain about supermarkets like everything. You know, the prices
are too high. But guess what, I got a choice.
Do I want to buy those Oreo cookies for five
forty nine? No way. I love Oreo cookies, but I'm
(12:35):
not going to buy them until they come down in price.
It's as simple as that. Do I need those Peppers Farm,
you know triple chocolate chip dark chocolate cookies that I
love for five ninety nine? No way, no way. But
when when you try to read these bills it is hieroglyphics,
you're absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
And when you think about it, which I did. That
happened to be coincidentally with my review of this first
time ever. Maybe I was thinking who appoints these commissioners?
And I saw it either an article in the Globe
or the Herald that said the governor appoints. Well, that's
not according to my information. It is the secretary of
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the Executive Office of the Energy and Environmental Affairs affairs
emphasis added, what affair are they having? Most of those
of the three, at least two out of three, have
no connection to Massachusetts. They're copt baggers and don't have
any idea about the struggles of the people. That I
(13:40):
learned today, fifty percent of our population, if they had
a one thousand dollars unexpected bill, like a repair your
car bill, they wouldn't be able to pay it. Come on,
I think you need to have I mean, you don't
need to do anything better. I'm just suggesting that, in
(14:01):
furtherance of this topic, that you have one, two, three,
or all of them, or if not, the governor or,
in particular the appointing authority, which I understand it to be,
which was incorrect correctly reported not once but twice in
our local mainstream newspapers of Massachusetts. They referred to it
(14:22):
as the governor to the appointing authority. I've learned, and
I may irong, but it's the Executive Office of Energy
and Environmental Affairs, and the governor has a veto over that.
In other words, you're right, the governor has it read
it to you.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You're right, You're right. The department is overseen by the
three member Commonwealth Utilities Commission, appointed by the Secretary of
the Executive Office of Energy and Environmental Affairs, with approval
by the Governor. Right the secret the Secretary designates one
of the commissioners as chair. Below you can learn about
(14:59):
our commission. So the chair is a guy named James
Jamie van Nostrend Okay. He was an adjunct professor at
Pace University in White Plains, New York. He received his
environmental law degree at Pace University, jd from the University
(15:20):
of Iowa College of Law, and a master's degree in
economics from Sunny at Albany, an undergraduate degree in economics
from the University of Northern Iowa. So this guy is Iowa.
In New York. Commissioner Cecil Fraser. She received the Bachelor's
of Arts degree in political science from Fordham University and
her j d from Rutgers University School of Law in Camden.
(15:44):
So she's from New Jersey. She was appointed by a
Governor Baker's office okay, and then the last one Stacy
Ruben Commissioner. She at least went to her law degree
is from Northeastern University at a public health degree from
HUFFS and a Master of Policy from Vermont Law School
(16:04):
undergraduate degree from New York University. So they none of
them are pure Massachusetts residents, none of the three, that's
for sure. Stacy Rubin is the one that is closest.
But I gotta tell you, you know that the Secretary
of Environmental Affairs is not in point pointing her cousin
Ernie to a position like that. This is all with
(16:25):
the approval of the governor. So the buck, as Harry
Truman said, the buck stops at the big desk, simple
as that. All right. I love the call, Chris, please
keep calling Knights. I tell your friends about Nightside as well. Okay,
we'll do. Thank you, Chris, appreciate you. Dan, good night.
Let me go next to I'm gonna get Paul in Plymouth.
In Paul, you were next on Nightside. Welcome Dan.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Hey, listen, you know, as far as these bills go,
when they generate electricity at Apollo Plant, it's tied in
on this parallel grid, so they're talking about delivery and transmission.
It's the same thing. And i'd like to know, uh, well,
you already you just said it. I mean, these people
(17:09):
have absolutely no qualification in electrical engineering or an electrician
anything like that. Any electrical engineer electrician knows uh that
these these are just trumped up charges and the duplicity.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Well, for the for the most part. The three who
were on and I'm a lawyer, okay, but I don't
understand the stuff. One guy has his jd from the
University of Iowa Law School. Uh Uh, he also worked
at the West Virginia University School of Law. The second
one has the j D. She's a lawyer from Rutgers
(17:48):
University School of Law in Camden, New Jersey. Uh. And
the third one has a law degree from Northeastern University
School of Law. Okay, can of them have any expertise
in this? These are three people who never should have
been appointed, one by Baker, two by by the current governor.
Governor heally.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
Right.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
They have no background in electrical or an electricity period,
and they're the ones that are making the I'm sure they're,
you know, very smart people and proficient in their field,
but why are they making the decisions on about electricity
when they have no background in electricity?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Well, Paul, Paul, you and I are smart people. Okay,
but let's assume Bob Kraft called you and said, hey, Paul,
I want you to be the coach of the Patriots
and Dan is going to be your defensive coordinator. How
do you think we do, Paul?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Oh, I don't know. I don't hope we'd make it
to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I don't think so. No, But I'm not joking when
I say that, the fact of the matter is that
these are political point is this this group of three
when the governor said, you know, we want the editor
companies to give something back, they they ordered them to
give back five percent five percent, and the energy company said,
(19:11):
we'll give back ten percent. So these knuckleheads, as as
the Great Tom Andino would say, these knuckleheads, they should
have said you got to give back twenty percent. But no,
it's like you're making it too easy on us. Commissioners.
We gotta make we got to give back ten percent
to at least make it look good. And and this right, that's.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Why I did to hire you know, and uh, well,
let's say.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
The government that's in competence, that that is absolute incompetence.
You're the commissioners, you're asking for five percent and the
people that you're regulating saying no, we'll do you better.
We'll give you ten percent. Governor Healy should should ask
for the letters of resignations of those three people tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
She won't, I agree, she won't. Get some engineers and
electricians on that.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
That's what they need.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I'm with you this, this is this is a scandal. Okay.
It is a scandal, and the governor needs to step
up to it. This is the sort of thing that
if she wants to run for president, this is gonna
come back. This is like what Boston Harbor was to
Mike Dukakis. This is the sort of thing that the
Republicans would do if if she ever became the Democratic nominee.
(20:23):
And I'm not betting a lot of money on that.
All Right, I gotta run, Paul, Thank you so much.
Appreciate your calling.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Okay again, but thanks you very much.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Good night.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Don't talk to you soon, good night, okay. Six one seven, two,
five four ten thirty six one seven nine three one
ten thirty. By the way, I have a big announcement
to make later on tonight, so I'm not gonna make
it on the air. I'll make it on the air tomorrow,
but I do a show on I shouldn't say a show.
We do what's called night side postgame on Facebook. If
(20:52):
you're listening tonight and you're near a computer at midnight,
go to your Facebook page and find Nights with Dan Ray.
I'm going to be making an announcement in advance of
an announcement tomorrow night, but I want my most loyal listeners,
who are people who who check in with me after
the show on Facebook, to get a little bit of
(21:15):
a head start on this. The only line open right now,
we got one line six, one, seven thirty. All of
a sudden, this topic has taken off. I am so
delighted that people are interested in this because, guess what,
They're picking your pockets back on night side. And by
the way, the government is what's doing who is allowing
(21:37):
them to pick your pockets back on nightside? After this,
you're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio. Yesterday, Governor Healy had a news conference about
these bills. When I say these bills, I'm not talking
about these legislative bills. These these bills from energy companies.
(21:59):
This is the governor are cut thirty five cut thirty five, Rob.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
And costs in other ways. All Right, every single day,
I want you to know that this team, this administration
and I as Governor am laser focused on lowering costs
for people around Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
And one of the biggest budgetbusters.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
That we've seen lately is what people saw on gas bills,
electric bills, heating bills the last couple of months.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Laser focused. You weren't laser focused, Governor in October when
your DPU commissioners were granting increases. You know, maybe laser
focused now because you know people are upset. Where was you?
Where was your team? Governor? Didn't they know that these things?
I mean, the average person doesn't attend DPU meetings, Governor,
(22:51):
These would be the questions that I would ask the governor,
But I don't think the governor has any interest in
coming on the show on this topic. And again, all
sorts of promises here, Okay, here's one. The question is
this is what the governor said. This is cut forty,
Rob going to talk about all the steps she's going
to take. Cut forty.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
We estimate that these steps, taken together, will save Massachusetts
residents five point eight billion dollars over the next five years, almost.
Speaker 8 (23:21):
Six billion dollars.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
We're going to save money back.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
To you over the next five years.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Now, the people who are clapping there, for the most part,
were members of the governor's staff, state employees. I mean,
do you believe that. I'll believe it when I see it.
To be honest with you, you're not going to save it
with this group of DPU commissioners. Let's go to the phones.
We're going to go to Miller in Lawrence, Lawrence Miller,
(23:53):
Let's do me a favorite Rob, put them on hold,
and we'll never called the radio station before. Okay, that's
good too. Let's go to Joe in Boston. Joe, you're
next on nightside. Go right ahead, Joe.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
Good evening.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Then, my brother, Joe, how are you. This is not
a happy topic we're talking about tonight.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
No, it's not hard imaginally looking at some of the notes.
I don't know if you remember about twenty seventeen eighteen,
Kelly Baker had a guy on one of those environmental
boards that he was caught on a hot mic saying
(24:35):
that he was going, we just got to try to
make a hurt for the people, to make them aware
that they have to save energy there was up in
New Hampshire and the guy had to pull it back
and he ended up getting fired after that. Yeah, that
was one of those people. Yeah, those are the people
(24:56):
that we have on the on the part of the
public utilities. Who are these people? I mean, you don't
have any electricion in debt. You don't have anybody who
has been run in a power plant that can put
things forward for us. I got fifty bucks that are
going to go have dinner this week. Do you think
(25:17):
that I can't afford to have dinner this week with
fifty bucks?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Maybe at McDonald's.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
Not even that's insulting then, I mean what they are
doing is I mean, and I feel so so bareful
people on fixed income? Yeah, I mean then by bill
from six plus with two one thousand dollars, I mean,
(25:48):
come on, I mean, thank god, I'm able to you know,
with my family, I'm able to handle that. But it's
just ridiculous and how somebody in a fixed income can't
handle that. And the DPU who appointing these people, one
of them was by Charlie Baker, you know, the two.
(26:12):
But this healing what what by healing? What are they getting?
I mean they are giving money. I want to know
the contribution from the utility companies to the candidates, because
that's how that is done. Oh and they went, oh,
we're going to take off, you know, the bills from
(26:34):
from the next two months, and didn't just give them
to you in the middle of the summer. They were
not supposed to be their first starters. I mean, it's
just it's like borrowing.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
It's like borrowing money. It's like borrowing. It's like borrowing
money from from a bookie. You gotta pay it back
and you gotta pay a little interest. It's the same thing.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
To eliminate. They have to eliminate all those lobbyists because
that's what they do with That's the same thing that
they do with the insurance. My insurances been going up
to the room and guess what, I have an excellent
driving record and nothing has changed, nothing has changed whatsoever. However,
they raise the insurance off. Why what's the reason for.
(27:17):
It's just insane. They need a dolge over here, a
local dolge. I mean, I will call it a double d.
If they can allow that you have disacled actually to
get into these things, I mean those it might be
payful now but it's probably one of the greatest inventions
because you can dig in and find out where the
(27:40):
waste is in government, because it's so much waste in government.
And if they can establish that from the federal level
and just strick down and bring it down to the
local government levels, from the governor to the unity, every
(28:03):
single level to a leaminate way. If you're gonna leave
meate ways, we'll be a fine I'm with.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
You totally, Joe, Joe, Well said, my friend Well said, Uh,
it's up. It's up to the people now to sort
of start to stand up and say, hey, we've taken
enough here and we can't take it anymore. This is
this is this is stuff, tough stuff.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
Joe, all right, thank you, man. I appreciate you, my brother.
You have a lovely evening. I love you and your family.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Love love your family and you as well. Thank you, Joe,
appreciate it. Thank you very much. Look, hey, let me
get going here. I'm gonna go back and see if
we get Miller and Lawrence here. Let's give Miller and
Lawrence a second shot. Miller, you got a second life here,
go ahead. Miller.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
All right, Buddy, Danny, sorry about that. Dan. So I'll
never say up to watch the miners thing, but I
did because heally was on last week on television.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Okay, yes, yes Myers, right, yep.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
Yeah, yes, I had a thirteen minute spot. Spent eleven
minutes talking about her a professional basketball career of two
years in Austria.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Very important, very very important. To watch out the language. Heah,
we got to bleep that. Remember we're on Family Radio.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Go ahead, all right, dad? Uh damn. So in closing,
she says people should no, New England was a great state.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
No, I think it's called the region. But wow, I
didn't realize that. Now if Donald if Donald Trump had
said that, if Donald Trump, do you think that the
networks would have been all over him or yeah?
Speaker 7 (29:50):
Who it was? It was a nice representation of the
state at all.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Well, we are the aristocracy of the elect right, they're
in Massachusetts. All right, Mella, have you called before? I know?
Is this your first time I had?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I had?
Speaker 7 (30:08):
Yeah, I have to have type of time.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
All right. Well I was a little I thought you're okay,
what I got you. I didn't think you'd hear me.
That's why we put you on old Thanks for thanks
for sticking with us call talk again. Thank you very much,
good night. Again, we're trying to help people tonight cut
their utility bills legally. We'll explain one more time on
(30:31):
the other side. And again, as they say, I do
have a special announcement tonight. If you normally listen on
night Side Nightside postgame, just go to Facebook if you
have a Facebook account, and you'll be able to find
Nightside Postgame and I'll be there at about twelve oh two.
We'll be back on Nightside right after this. If you'd
like to join the conversation. I get a couple more
(30:53):
calls in six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty six, one, seven, nine, three, one,
ten thirty Back on Nightside after this. Now back to
Dan Ray live from the Window World night Side Studios
on WBZ News Radio. All right, let's get back to
our calls. We're going to wrap the This has been
(31:14):
an interesting evening and I do appreciate all the calls tonight.
This has been it's been fun and I again am
happy to try try to help you out a little
bit here. It's as simple as that. We're just trying
to work together. We got everybody. Let's keep rolling here.
Let me go to Joe Inn in Waltham. Joe In
(31:36):
next on nice that we'll get you in under the
wire here, joe In, go right.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Ahead, thank you. Dan. Yeah. I pay my daughter's electric bill,
and I've been paying it for like eight years. You know,
it's always like one hundred maybe one hundred and fifty
in the summer. In November, National Grid was having difficulty
(32:02):
with their billing department, and I tried to pay her
bill and they kept saying, we're having difficulties, so we
can you know, can't do it now. All through December,
same thing. Finally I called December twenty six and it
said she had a credit of four hundred and fifteen dollars,
(32:25):
So I said, wonderful. You know, that's great. He changed
her meter in early December. In February she didn't get
any bills at all. In February she got nine bills
all at the same time, nine bills.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
And separate bills, yeah, separate.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
For how many months.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
It went way back to like May. I don't know,
you know that.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Joe Inn, that's an issue that involves your daughter and you,
and you know that doesn't have application. And what we're
really talking about tonight. We're talking about tonight the level
of money that people are asking be paid in Massachusetts,
and I think lack of oversight by the government in
the final Sleep at the Switch.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Yeah, the final bill said nineteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Well, I guess if it was nine bills. You divide
it and it's like two hundred dollars a month. I
don't know, Joe inn I.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Well, no one bill said zero, you know, but I
called them and they said, well that's what it is.
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
It's just not very helpful, that's for sure. No, Joe
inn I'm trying to get you know, the news between
macro and micro yours is a micro problem. It needs
a microscope to figure it out, and it probably is
not doesn't have great application to most of my audience.
We're talking about the mike, the macro problem that the
(34:07):
DPU commissioners here in Massachusetts, we're asleep at the switch.
The governor needs to ask for their resignation.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
In my opinion, Well, you know, they want the climate
change thing, she said. I heard her say there was
eighty dollars per bill going towards climate stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
At least at least thanks Joanne, I got to run.
I got a bunch. Okay, you got to get to
Thank you much. Talk to you soon. Fill in Boston, Phil,
next on Nice, I go ahead, Phil, Hi, don't.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
I gotta be quick?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Well?
Speaker 9 (34:36):
You hit all you should be a p and you're
hitting all all the right keys. I just I got
my National Group bill sitting outside here, walk right by it.
I'm afraid to open her now. The bottom line is
you hit on all the right keys. And you said
people have other things loriable they can't figure out.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
I don't know what to kill?
Speaker 9 (34:56):
What is that make a sound like they do in you?
A favor? Good to kill? What I had? A guy
combined now on the door and said, well he wanted me.
I signed a car like an idiot. I signed a
contract to get the well the fransaity where I signed that? Well,
what did I just done? There'll be the finest kid.
He was in and around, and then I try to
call the number for the company. I was here for
(35:18):
longer than I was taught, finding it only you. I
was talking like twelve fourteen hours, funny at the Bulas phone.
Oh we got the things as all we are recording
I couldn't get I'm telling you. It's something's got to
be done. It's crazy, it's like torture. It's unbelievable. I'm sorry,
I'm rambling. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
No, no, no, no, no. First first and first of all,
I hear your frustration. Your frustration is justified. And I
don't care who you vote for, but when we elect
someone to the state House, they need to put a
team in place. I don't expect Mare Healy to be
sitting at very DPU hearing and she has to have
a Secretary of Energy who follows some That was a
(35:58):
big meeting and they gave they gave a big fat
with kiss the DPU condisioners. They're the problem, and the.
Speaker 9 (36:06):
Government money the lottery and they're gonna make him going
to fire off for a ticket next week. You can't
make the stuff up. How abatters some money?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Well, maybe I shouldn't regulize. I think what happens is
you legalize betting everywhere and everybody can bet on everything, all.
Speaker 9 (36:31):
Becoming addicts between them. Anyway, sorry about that guy.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Guys Phil, you have a great one. Good night, you
deserve it. Thanks. Say say if you can bet like
on Laftyan soccer Max matchups, maybe that does detract a
little bit from the very successful Massachusetts lottery. Jeff is
in Whitman. Jeff, you were next on Nightside. Welcome, Hey Dan.
Speaker 10 (36:59):
I mean I've done the audit of like all my
different services, and a lot of them. I've got rid
of AT and T. I'm almost ready to get rid
of Comcast or Internet and looking for better services. So
for my electric bill, I signed up with Arbor and
they'll negotiate short term contracts for you on who has
the least uh the lowest rate. So and that's worked
(37:22):
out for me and I don't have to sit there
for hours going okay, is a clear sky is at?
This company is a fat company?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
So I say, just so I understand it. There's a
company that you use that negotiates your rates. What is
that company?
Speaker 10 (37:41):
It's called Arbor, like a grape arbor?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (37:50):
And did they automatically set it up for you each time?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
So they they charge? Do they charge you for that
service or do.
Speaker 10 (37:59):
They get a piece of the auction They somewhere get
a piece of the action.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Okay, So is Arbor energy dot com?
Speaker 10 (38:08):
I'm not sure the exact weber dress, but yeah, that's them.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Okay, well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I'll find them and I'll report to the audience tomorrow night.
Speaker 10 (38:18):
Sounds good, sir, appreciate Jeff.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Thank you much, a great How much time we got, Roub.
What do we got? Okay, Jim, gonna stick you in
here real quickly at the end. Got about a minute
for you.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Go ahead, Jim, I don't need him in I got
ten seconds. All right. This is a very simple idea.
Two words. Headband flash light. I mean, typically I would
only recommend it for people who are desperate, but it
sounds like you're desperate, So headband flashlight. And the other
thing is if you're living in an apartment, make sure
that the apartment building isn't running something off of your
(38:53):
electric I live in an apartment one time there running
the laundry room off of my electric thing. So those
are to thanks. Get your next call, thanks dan By,
have a.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Great night, Jim. Okay, thanks all right. Jim always comes
up with likes to sneak in late and come up
with something that says that's interesting. Okay. So I want
to thank everyone to call it tonight through a bunch
of first time callers, which I appreciate a whole lot.
I want to thank We had a great conversation with
(39:24):
David Urban, CNN contributor. He happens to be a Trump supporter.
He's sort of the one of the two House Conservatives
at CNN. He also now serves on the board of
directors the Edward M. Kennedy Institute for the US Senate.
It was a great hour. If you get a chance
you if you missed it, you want to listen to
(39:44):
that tomorrow, robill get it all posted on Nightside on demand.
We did two hours in the Massachusetts energy bills and
who's to blame? I think I placed it very squarely
at the feet of the Department of Public Utilities commissioners,
three people and the governor, in my opinion, should be
asking for their resignation or firing them tomorrow because they
(40:05):
did not do the job last fall. Anyway, I'm gonna
make an announcement tonight at Nightside at our Facebook page.
So if you're on Facebook, go to Dan Ray Nightside
with Dan Ray and a very interesting announcement which I
think all of you it's not a bad announcement, it's
a good announcement and we'll have a I will also
(40:29):
follow up on that announcement on the ed tomorrow night.
But I want to give those of you who are
the most ardent supporters of Nightside first opportunities. At this
we're done for the night. Rob Brooks, thank you very much. Mariita,
thank you very much. All dogs, all cats, all pets
go to heaven. That's my pal Charlie Rays, who passed
fifteen years ago in February. That's why all your pets
who have passed you love them. I do believe you'll
(40:51):
see them again. Hope to see yain tomorrow night at Nightside.
Have a great Wednesday. Everyone had a fun show tonight.
Let's do it again tomorrow night. Tomorrow night, we're gonna
talk about long COVID, long covet Tomorrow night at nine
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