October 8, 2025 • 39 mins
Last weekend there were several illegal street takeovers that played out across Massachusetts including one in Boston, Randolph, Middleborough, Fall River, and Brockton. This growing nationwide trend of a “street takeover” is a meetup of people and cars that block off a street or streets to race or perform stunts and generate noise. Gov. Maura Healey addressed the trend Wednesday saying she’s committed to doing everything she can to get after the issue and pledged to punish anyone caught engaging in an illegal car meetup.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's with Dan Ray.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm telling you Boston's Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
All right, Thanks very much, Dan Walkins. You're absolutely up
to date on the baseball scores. Yankees are out. They
skunk the Red Sox, but the Blue jayskunt them. So
I guess all is fear and love in the American
League playoffs. My name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside by
the Way, just tomorrow night. I'd like to preview tomorrow
night's show for you a little bit. I tend not
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to be as good as I should be in previewing programs.
Tomorrow night at ten o'clock, we will have the WBZ
Car Guys with Scott and Larry, and they will take
all of your questions. We'll have them for a couple
of hours, so you want to get in early because
the lines do really fill up with Scott and Larry.
Any question you have about your car, maybe the type
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of car you're looking at. They have such an amazing
understanding of virtually every type of automobile that you can imagine.
That's number one and number two. They'll give you all
the tips you need to have as we move into
the winter driving season. And of course it's not winter yet,
but it's gonna be a little chilly tomorrow, so stay warm.
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And then at nine o'clock tomorrow night, we're going to
talk to two women who do great work basically shipping
materials overseas to US soldiers, Marines, Navy, et cetera. And
those heroic women they put together I would call them
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care packages whatever you want, a lot of toiletries, candy
and all of that. And now for some reason they're
being they're really being given a hard time, not by
the US post Office, but apparently by some form of
one of the international postal agencies. So they have to
literally list every specific item. You know, they'll put a
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box together, you know, could be you know, eight or
ten inches by eight or ten inches, so that you'd
have a few things in there. But they have to
now list everything and this is a burden on them.
And then we're going to talk about that tomorrow night
at nine o'clock. So having said that, what I want
to do is I want to continue to talk about
these two ugly incidents in Boston. We talked on Monday
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night about this so called meet up where people had
driven to I guess Brockton and then some of them
went to Rockland, and then some of them went up
to the Home Depot parking lot in West Roxbury and
then they all showed up at one thirty and they
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blocked intersections. They caused a huge problem at one thirty
on Sunday morning at the intersection of Tremont and Mass Avenue,
and eventually a Boston police cruiser was ignited. People who
are friends of mine, who know a lot more this
that I do, say they did. They don't think it
was just a firecracker that basically turned put the police
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cruisers car, the car the cruiser on fire. That it
had to be somebody who did it intentionally. And then
last night about nine thirty, there was a demonstration it's
called a Week of Rage by Students for Justice in Palestine,
really a pro Hamas organization, and they came looking for
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a fight with the Boston Police Department and they got
that fight, that's for sure. Earlier tonight I read the
names of those who were arrested. Now all of them
enjoy the presumption of innocence. That's fine. However, however, I
want to read the names to you one more time.
In their ages, which I think is most important, and
where they're from, So we start off with Osama L. Katib.
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He's twenty six from Watertown. Okay, he was there, he
got arrested. Most of them are for assaulting a police officer.
Atwood twenty one from Somerville. He's the guy who allegedly
punched a police officer, broke his nose and the police
officer now will need reconstructive surgery. Hailey McIntyre twenty four
of Dorchester, Madlin Michael twenty seven of Watertown. Jacob Pettigrew
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twenty two of Molden, A moon Prophet, that's the name,
A moon Prophet twenty five of Alston, Laieth Hinsman nineteen
in Boston. Benjamin Andre Chu Crown twenty of Medford, Owen
Woodcock twenty six of Boston. He's kind of a senior
citizen in the group here. Prolade A Younga twenty five
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of Boston, Styx Hatch nineteen of Boston, and Gabrielle Smith
twenty eight of Cambridge. All were charged with resisting arrest,
as orderly conduct and disturbing the peace. Atwood faces that
addition of charge of assault and battery of a police
officer and destruction of property. So I think think This
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is going to be a problem that we're going to
see more of in the weeks ahead. I think that,
combined with the antipathy towards Donald Trump, and combined with
his threats of sending National Guard troops into various cities,
I guess he's already sent some to Chicago, Memphis, Tennessee, Portland, Oregon,
and of course Washington, where he had more opportunity because
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Washington is not a separate state, it's the district of Columbia.
Let's go to the phones. Oh yeah, let me get
one sound bite by mistake, I just want to play
one sound bite from Governor Healy, and she's pretty strong
on this cut thirty four, please, rub.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I wanted to take a few moments to today to
address something that is really bothering me right now. You know,
I'm a former prosecutor, I'm a former attorney general. I'm
also the governor. And what I've seen, particularly over the
last week are a few weeks, is something I want to
address right now, and that is this trend of car
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meetups of drag racing in communities.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
And we've been.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Hearing about this for a little bit. Now I've convened
roundtables with law enforcement in various regions of the state,
and we talked about a number of things. But one
of the things that we talked about is that increasingly
there are efforts online to send word out and then
ask people to meet up at a particular location, oftentimes
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at night, and then drag race carts. And we saw
incidents in Ball River in Boston over the weekend in Brockton,
and I just want to be really clear on a
couple of things. Do not engage in that behavior. Anyone
who engages in that conduct will be found and will
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be held accountable to the furthest extent of the law.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Well, let's say, if the words are backed up by action,
I suspect there will be future events like this. You've
seen the kids on the motorbikes who have taken their
motorbikes and driven on to the Southeast Expressway into the
Tip O'Neil tunnel. It's just outrageous behavior, absolutely outrageous behavior.
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Let me go to Terry down on the Cape. Terry,
welcome back.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
How are you I can.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I'm okay, thank you. I hope you're feeling better. I
think you need to steam and put a little vixed
in the water and just cleam it up.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Oh yeah, I'll be on the road to recovery tomorrow.
Get a good night's sleep. I'll be fine. You go
right ahead. What's your thought on all of this?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
So this is terrorism, yes, in a simple term that
I don't even like to admit that's happening in our state,
but it is. But I'm not quite sure what to
do about the cars. Honestly, that is a real issue.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, if here's here's what I would do. Here's what
I would do if there were some kids or older
people who who thought it was a good idea to
uh to drive their cars to a to a specified intersection,
uh and just cause havoc doing you know, donuts in
the intersection and all of that. Once we got some
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police there, I would confiscate the cars. I would say,
you have just lost your car. We are confiscating this
car and we are either going to send them to
a to a junk yard where it will be crushed,
or uh, we're going to to to sell it to
a used car dealer who intern will sell it. I
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think I think that the state has a lot of
when when you use an item. For example, if you
use your car to transport drugs, you know, illicit drugs.
They can confiss gate the car because it's associated with
the crime. Well, if you're going to drive your car
to a meetup and you're going to be spinning around
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and causing havoc, I think that car can be confiscated.
And I'll bet you if you started to confiscate cars,
that would be the end of meetups.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Like yesterday, I pick all their licenses aly immediately, Well.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
They could still go drop that would be true, that's true.
Take the licenses away for a minimum of three years.
The last thing some kid who's twenty or twenty two
or twenty four wants to do is lose his or
her license. But if they get if they take the
cars away, if it's mom and dad's car, they have
to go explain to mom and dad why their car
is now headed to a junk yard or headed to
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be sold. I just think we got to get aggressive
with this stuff and stop it.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Oh, absolutely absolutely. I wonder how many of the cars
and vehicles are stolen.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
That's a possibility. And obviously if you catch some in
the stolen vehicle, now you can enhance the charges and
you can say Okay, not only did you disturb the peace,
not only did you involve in a car meet up,
not only did you close off an intersection. The governor
today said that at one of these over the weekend,
there was an ambulance that was trying to get a
patient to a hospital and they had to divert the
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way they went, and that additional time outrageous, outrageous, that
additional time. That could be you or me in the
back of an ambulance, and every second counts.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
That's right, They have no conc.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
It's where is these assemblies on foot go. Anybody that
doesn't have a permit to assembol should immediately be dispersed
to a stay of a crowd. And I'm took and
sending four or five fire trucks and tose them down.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I like you style. If I ever become governor, you're
going to become my commissioner of Public Safety to well.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I just want you to know I also put a
remand at all of them. I wouldn't let any of
them go today. I would send them ninety days in
patient Bridgewater State Hospital under a rocked toward away from
each other, take all of their devices away, don't let them,
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even contact the leadership wherever they may be and interrogate
them for ninety days. And then when they come back
to court after their dangerousness and all that stuff is done, minimum,
every single one of them go to jail for a year.
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The guy that broke the police officers knows, oh, he's
going for five years.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Carry I've not.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Done I've not done that. He gets ten years. There
is maximum probation with the strictest rules on him that
if one infraction happens, he finishes back in jail with
another ten years added when he gets out.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I'm telling you now, if i haven't become governor, I
think I'm going to have to make you a judge.
As opposed the commissions.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
So I'm serious. We can't give them from now on.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
From now on, Terry, as far as I'm concerned, you
a judge, Terry, I want you to know that. Okay,
you're my sort of a judge.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I will take that as a compliment, Dan, and please
be well because we all need your voice.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Thanks, Terry, I do appreciate it. I'll be fine. I'll
take a couple of days and I'm on some medications
now and I'll be in good shape and I'll get
a good night's sleep and we'll be we'll be back
at it tomorrow. Terry, thank you so much for royalty
and your friendship. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Okay, thanks, thank you with the spy biker.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Great call. We'll take a quick break. I got John,
I got Jimmy, and I want Ruffie and I have
some room for other people. Six one seven, two, five
four ten thirty six one seven nine three thirty. I
think too many of you sit at home and you
don't have the courage to call and express yourself.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You sit there and you say, I don't want someone
to recognize my voice. Let me tell you if we
don't stand up to these hooligans. Hooligans are what they
call the soccer fans in England who run onto the
field and abuse the players and other fans. But these
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are nothing. These are political hooligans. And the SJP, the
Students for Justice in Palestine, that is that is a
anti Semitic organization. Whether they are membership, knows it or not. Okay,
it's as simple as that. And again, hats off to
Governor Heally for her comments today. I'd like to see
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comments strongo comments from governor Woo from mayor wu. Uh,
and I want to hear your comments. And if I
get to hear one person who disagreed with well, the
only person was Jeff and Abingdon. But Jeff is just
kind of a curmudgeon anyway, so uh, I'd like to
let him on just so you can see how crazy
some people are. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten
thirty six one seven, nine three ten thirty. Right now,
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if you're in Abington, you can hear Jeff screaming back
on nights Side. Right after this, It's.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Night Side with Dan rays Hazy, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Okay, back to the Phone's got some open lines during
the conversation, get you in. Let me go to John
in Boston. Hey John, welcome back. How are you sir? Hey?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Dan, thank you?
Speaker 6 (14:42):
How are you great?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
And I'm just the that's awesome. The ages of these people.
Gabriel Smith's twenty eight, Ohwen Woodcock twenty six, Osama twenty six,
AM and Propa twenty five. He's on kids Den. These
are adults. Another guy prah had Ben got twenty five.
These are adults. Deal they go to war with nineteen
year olds and here are these people on the streets
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calling the cops. Think go ironic.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
This is this.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
They're calling the cops Nazis, wearing Yasser Arafat Cafifa headdress,
and who trained Yasa Arafat. They're calling the cops Nazi
who trained yasa Arafat and the techniques of terror? It
was Otto Skorzany who trained Yasa Arafat and the terror techniques.
And he trains a Muzzlim brotherhood. And he happened to
be Hitler's favorite commando who rescued Mussolini in the mountain.
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So Hitler's favorite commando trained Yasa Arafat. And these clowns
are wearing the Kaviva hats and calling the cops Nazis.
It's and they're grabbing their equipment, their cameras, they're radios,
and they're attacking them in there's money behind this, did
I know? It's George Soros and the Open Society. These
people are being their leaders, being paid. Someone's being paid,
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and they're getting these maybe younger people to join them.
But these there are definitely adults in this stand and
that was terrorists. Last night. I was a mile and
a half. I could have easily driven because I was
with the family and you know the kids we got
caught in an interception and they surrounded the car. Uh,
it could be extremely dangerous for both sides. And this
is it's simply it's innock terrorized in the city of Boston.
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It terrorizes older people. People are gonna come to the
city to the restaurants in that was downtown. You've got
really nice restaurants.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I know.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
This just ticks me off there because I was right.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Everybody. Everybody knows where Park Street station is. Is the
foot of the State House, or if you walk out
the front door of the State House, walk down Park
Street and you're right there on Tremont, that's where that's
where all the action was. And they picked that location.
The good part about it was it wasn't in the
middle of the common because at that point they could
have done things to the cops that no one would
have been able to see. So, you know, some police
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office is going to end up getting stabbed or shot.
This is this is going to get worse before it
gets better, and people of goodwill better start articulating their
opposition into this because this is first of all, this
starts with October seventh, twenty twenty three when innocent Israeli men, women, children,
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and babies were slaughtered by Jimas you know, And you're right,
this does trace back, This does trace back to Hitler.
You're absolutely right, John.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Anyone can look up to anyone just this historical record.
And they came last night with fireworks, smoke grenades, flaars weapons.
They were attacking. They're attacking cops and and it's terrorized
in the city. And I know cops again, that arrest
of the guy with a legal gun and then a
week later the rest and the DA lets them up.
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The next day, a week later they get the same
guy's got another gun illegal and the DA lets them out.
The legal system is letting these clowns off without any
kind of serious penalty. And this is just getting worse
and worse than like you said, yeah, a couple of
weeks ago that two hundred biseless on the motor bikes
of all types on the highway.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
And this is terrorism in the city of Boston. This
terrorism in an ok because it's scary.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Well this one is, yeah, this is political terrorism. Okay.
I think that's important to make that point. I don't
think that the automobile meetups are political. That's a form
of terrorism. I mean, if you're driving home some night
and you're an elderly person, or if you're driving home
and you're a twenty five year old and all of
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a sudden you're going through an intersection and people are
spinning their wheels and doing donuts and whatever. Yeah, that's
a tough spot to be in, John, You're absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah it was. This was definitely a plan. They brought weapons,
they were planning on it. Anarchy and I know a
lot of people who live in those ears, that work
in those areas. It's just terrorizing the city and they plan,
they're playing with fire, allowing us to go on. It's
just it's not going to get worse. Donald Trump needs
to send the troops head. Boston is short a thousand
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cops and four of them got injured last night that
we know for sure, maybe more, and all the equipment
and there was burning, everything wasston He's the national got here.
We're short police and they're allowing this to go on,
and the cops are over worked, they're working double shifts
in they're gonna put up with this graph from these
twenty eight, twenty six, twenty five year old clowns that
have coming, well.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Some of them are even younger than that. I mean
some of them are. They were well, I could just
reach just some of the ages you got twenty one,
twenty twenty two, nineteen, twenty nineteen, so there were some
in their late twenties, but none of them were older
than twenty eight. So we're talking about young people, and
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those are political organizers. Those are political luck. That kid
from Tufts, he should be bounced out of Toughs. Okay,
And if tos is are smart, if TUFs is smart,
they want to say, hey, that behavior is not tolerated
on campus. You're suspended for a year. If you want
to apply to be you know, a year from now,
you can reapply to come back to Tough Toughs University.
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But but to let him be taking classes next week
or or this week is a is a uh is
a disgrace. That is a disgrace the Toughs. And I
have friends of mine, including Scott Brown, who are tough graduates.
Toughs is a great school. This kid's a little rich
kid out of Connecticut who went to a very you know,
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elegant day school, I believe, or overnight school in New Jersey.
So I'm sure his parents have a lot of money,
a lot of money. John, I've got to run here
because I got my CBS report coming up on what's
going on again, John, we're out of time. Here's a
CBS News special report.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
It's Night's Eye with Dan Ray on.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
All right, let's get back to the phone. Is gonna
go to Jimmy in Boston. Jimmy, you're next on Nightside,
Go right ahead.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
Yeah, jim.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
I'm retired from a department here in Boston. Also served
in the Marine Corps.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
So I.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Thank you for both of those services.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
By the way, I think, well, I'll do it, do it,
do it all again.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
If I could, if I was younger.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
So I got caught. I got a call today and said,
you need to look at this Boston twenty five News
Facebook page that the governor put out about this car
club stuff. So the past five years we monitor a
lot of coy washers, pocking watch and everything else. And
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one of the big problems why we got all these
calls was because of these meetups.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Dan.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
They come out at eleven thirty at night, one in
the morning, three in the morning, so I started, so
in the past couple of years, I've been posting the
videos that we have so on this. But if people
go on to Facebook Boston twenty five News from today
and has Tomorrow Hareley on there, they'll see the videos
that posted five of them.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
They come out with approximately like two hundred cars. They
will pull into a pocking lot. Okay. When they pull in,
the cars are popping, the rain, news are blaring. But
when they pull in, DN two hundred cars will pull
into a pocking lot with under a minute. Okay. And
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there's been the they you know, they call their car clubs,
they call them okay, and they drift this and when
they drift, anything can happen. And when we have a
guy sitting there lots of times I've been there myself
taking these videos. Okay, and they are and they are wild.
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You can smell the weed, you can smell it, you
can sell it in the air, of course you gain okay.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
And first of all, they're doing this it probably after midnight.
There was a big one of these a couple of
years ago. It was on at an intersection I believe
it was Newbury and Dartmuth Street right in the.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Heart of the back day. We've been monitor these.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
I've got friends that are retired, I got friends on
the force, state police, local police, everywhere. We keep in
touch with each other. Okay, and this is gonna get
I'm gonna get a little bit more in depth with
this where it all comes from that now she makes
a stance. Okay, So when now you know we get
these calls. You know they come in, we make these calls.
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We you know, we're told to call nine one one,
which we do.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
Okay, and last year I.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Won't say the town.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
So the.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
On one certain property, a big mall property. The owner
they've been showing up on his property numerous times.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
So they said, you need to you.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Need to hire a security company. Owner says, fine, I'll
finally do it because we can't keep showing up here.
We need to you know, taxpayers pay for our services too.
So they show up. Two hundred cars come through one night.
I'm sitting here, and what do they They show up
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with two cruises. They just they baby gotta go gotta
one citation. The one pulled over. So I said, they
know who I am. I said, can I ask you why?
You know we can't engage what do you mean you
can't engage. We're told we cannot engage. I'm asking the supervisor,
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who's telling you you can't engage? About them is telling?
So after after the seventh time this happens, after a
few months, I said, listen, you're gonna tell me who's
telling you you can't engage. It's going higher up. So
I'm starting to make my calls. Dwell, dwelt the state. Okay,
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so where it actually came from? Okay, and this is
a fact. And then we've already proven it all right,
the governor. The governor got a hold of the mayors,
which the mayor's passes down to the police chiefs. If
you don't have any arrest, there's no reports, so it
shows that there's no crime exactly. Remember where we're in.
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We're in the election time right now. No, No, she
has a good chance of winning. Now it's time to
show force.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Well, I think that she's going to backslide a little
bit here. She's backfilling, I should say. And the Republicans. Uh,
and there's three of them at this point. Uh. They
those folks can call into this show if they wanted to.
They could have called in tonight. You know, and uh,
they don't seem to take advantage of that. So I'm
not going to personally invite them, but their citizens of
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the Commonwealth, and they have a right to call in
as well.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
So by this has been ongoing, this is I mean,
I'm going back five years now.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
This isn't just something that's going and she's.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Very well aware of it.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
No, I agree.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
I here's another thing that you brought up, like the
citations of it. Okay, and I and I explained something
to one of one of the younger officers. Okay, I
mean we're old school offices. Okay, see you grab one
of them. Okay, Now you got them on trespassing, because
usually on these places as trespassing, sirey, usually a town
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has an ordinance which you can grab them for one
hundred and fifty to two hundred and fifty dollars. Fine.
Once when you have them on that, now all of
a sudden, if you roll down the window, you can
smell the weed.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
Now all of a sudden you have them on that.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Now you have them step out of the vehicle. Now
all of a sudden you get a search, you find something,
and all of a sudden you have them on that.
Now you start running plates. Most likely you may come
up with a suspension or something like that. Now you
have them on that.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
Yeah there, now the windows attempted, Now you have on that.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Fine, Now you I got it like that.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I got it, Jimmy, Jimmy. I don't know if you
could hear me or not, but you don't have to yell.
I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
No, you're absolutely right. And the bottom line is, even
if you write him and they have to come into
court on a Monday morning or on a Tuesday morning,
now you got him in court. Now you can start
to play with him a little bit. And nobody likes
to get have to go into court. Nobody likes to
have to go into court.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Nobody does.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Okay, So yeah, well look I appreciate your perspective. Thank
you so much.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
This isn't this isn't a new thing that's happening.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
It's five plus years.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Oh yeah, no, believe me, Believe me, I'm familiar with that,
and that's why I'm doing it tonight and giving it
particular attention. I wish more people would call in, but
you were one of the best, if not the best,
call of tonight in terms of just the information.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Take a look. Take a look at that boss and
twenty five Facebook thing. You'll see the videos on there.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Everyone, Okay, thanks very much, you gave it a good plug.
Thanks you, talk to you later. Have a great night.
Let me go next to Michelle in Pembroke. Hi, Michelle,
welcome next on Nightside.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Hello Dan, I'm great Michelle.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
How are you notice everyone tonight? No one is defending
these activities. Everybody is appalled, which I'm very happy about.
But go right ahead.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
What I'd like to know is why are they only
being charge with maybe trespassing, you know, maybe distally conduct.
What else could they be charged with? As far as
I can see, if you're in a car and you're
driving it, you should be charged with reckless driving. Absolutely absolutely,
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And and I also believe when you start terrorizing people.
I don't know what the actual legal definition of domestic
terrorism is, but I know if I was out and
I was surrounded, I would consider that an assault or
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a battery, even if they never put their hands on me,
even if they're terrorizing.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
No, No, it's clearly no. Well, first of all, it's
obviously an assault, because what an assault is is someone
is in fear. It's from your perspective, okay, And so
you know, if there's two guys arguing in the street
and one guy gets a little aggressive and I'm going
to beat your brains out, that's assault. It becomes battery
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once they touch the guy and he pokes him in
the shoulder, that's assault and battery when you punch a cop.
Has happened last night by a twenty one year old
student from Toff's Little rich kid. Uh, that's assault, the
battery and a police officer. And what I was arguing
before is that just as if you're using your car
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to transport drugs to sell drugs, let's say they can
confiscate the car.
Speaker 8 (30:14):
Okay, absolutely, they are using your car as a weapon,
they should be able to confiscate it.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yes, yeah, And so either send it to a junk
yard and have it crushed, or sell it for a
dollar to uh, you know, or whatever whatever the blue
book is to. I'm sure that there's plenty of used
car places who would love the inventory. And at that point,
this kid, whether it's an eighteen year old or twenty
eight year old, he's walking home at two o'clock in
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the morning.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
I totally agree with every point you've made. But what
I don't understand is why are they never really held accountable.
They get a little slap on the wrist. Maybe it's
Massachusetts with what they should.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Michelle as well as I do. It's Massachusetts.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
I know you're one of the wrong state.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Well we're one party state. No, no, no, we're a
one party state. It's Massachusetts, and the Republican Party doesn't
run enough candidates. If they ever are going to get
up off the mat, the Republican Party in Massachusetts, they
should get up off the mat next year and run
as many candidates as possible. But I'm not the political
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strategist for the Republican Party. I could just tell you
whenever you have a state where there's only one party,
it's not gonna it's not going to be good for
the for the population. It's like if you only have
one grocery store within fifty miles of your house, they can.
Speaker 8 (31:36):
Raise whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
You got it. So you know in effect this, you
know there's an anti trust violation here in terms of politics.
Now again it's up to the Republican Party to get going,
and we try to give them some encouragement, but welcome
to Massachusetts. All right, Michelle, thank you, thank you so much,
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love your call. Thanks calling call more often? Will I
like your fire and I like your passion. Thank you?
Speaker 8 (32:09):
All right, thanks, good night, good night, all right.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
The other side, I got Tina, I got ron, I
got room for you. Six one, seven, two, five, four
ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty.
Come on right back on night Side.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
I'm WZ Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Now let's go to Tina in roone Socket, Rhode Island. Hi, Tina,
welcome back.
Speaker 9 (32:32):
Oh yeah, Hi Dan, I tuned in late after ten o'clock. Okay,
but I'm so glad, Yeah, I'm so glad you're addressing
this issue. And those two punks from Rhode Island who
were also participating in the meetup. What I'm going to
ask you is low intensity. But I know this. I
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think one factor is you get these cars now that
are all supercharged and they make such noise. And I
noticed on the highway now when a car was going
really really fast, you had police officers going after them.
And I don't see that happening now. There's so much
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disregard for the for the law, and a lot of
these young people they want to terrorize the community. Well,
this is my question.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Go ahead, I ask you a question, but I think
I know what your question is going to be, and
I got a good answer for you.
Speaker 9 (33:33):
Okay. My question is this, in the summertime, sometimes you
have people coming around in their cars late at night
blasting their music. Do I have the right to call
the police and tell them and will they do something
about it?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Well, it depends, and I'll tell you why it depends.
What happens is that you have lawyers now who are
saying to police departments, well, unless it's like a serious
crime like a murder or a bank robbie robbery, if
someone's speeding, don't chase them, because if you speed after
them and they go faster and they get into an accident,
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we might be liable. The town of the city might
be liable. So you have all of these cowardly select
men or select women who tell the police chief don't
pursue anyone. And so that's what happens. And their attitude
is they would rather have you woken up every night
by someone driving by with loud music or someone on
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Route twenty four. Some you know that comes up behind
you and you know you're going sixty five in the
left lane and they're flashing your lights and forcing you over,
which can be dangerous. That's the sort of stuff the
cops that cops should be concerned about. Pull someone like
that over, give them a warning or write them a ticket.
Simple as that we have gotten away from it.
Speaker 9 (34:57):
Yeah, it's terrorizing the community. It stops small and it
gets bigger and bigger to what's happening.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
It's what's it's what's called the old broken windows theories.
If you, if you pay attention to broken windows, the
other stuff will fall in line. That's a theory that
Bill Bratton has and I think it makes a lot
of sense. It's like in your house. You know, if
all of a sudden you spill something something on the floor, uh,
and you clean it up right away, your house is
probably going to stay as a clean house. But if
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you don't get it tomorrow and all of a sudden,
it's sticky on the floor and then yeah yeah, and
then it's on the carpet. You know. It's like pay attention,
if you if you, if you take care of the
little stuff, the big stuff is less likely to happen.
I got to get one more in Tina. I love
your call.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yay, thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Talk soon. Good questions, Ron and Newton. Ron, you're gonna
wrap the hour for us, Go right.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Ahead, run a Dan just quickly.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
I don't I don't quite understand the reticence to deploy
our national Guard. They have been deployed, oh god, eleven times,
I guess, in six presidents since nineteen fifty seven.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, well, I'm with you. I think that in a
city like Chicago, where kids, little kids are killed every weekend,
they have a horrific They don't care. The mayor of
Chicago could care less about people on the south side.
The governor of Illinois could care less about people who
live on the south side. They walk around with their
police detachments. They've protected. No one's going to bother them.
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They're immune from it. But that's who Chicago and Illinois
voted in. And so as Barack Obama wants that elections
have consequences.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
Yeah well, I would argue that the threshold should be
much lower these days. With the Internet. We didn't have
the internet back in this fifties and sixties and seventies.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Absolutely, and these meetups are the great example of that.
Back in the old days, you'd have to call a
friend on the phone and say, hey, do you want
to go and race to drag racing tonight or whatever?
And before guys they had drag racing. Now, with the
groups and all of that, they can gay can turn
out two hundred people anywhere they want.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Dan, I don't know for sure, but Sunday night at
one in the morning for an hour, that's all I heard.
I'm close to Walthamon was but that's it was an hour.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Well, let me tell you they did this in Newton's
Center three or four weeks ago. It didn't get much publicity.
But again, the mayor should have been on top of that.
The police department should have been on top of that.
People pay big real estate taxes to live in peace
and quietude in Newton, and they need to have the
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police out there making sure that these people are not
interfering with your night's sleep or what or other people's
night's sleep. It's as simple as that you don't. But again,
we're going to hit this a lot in the next
few weeks, Ron because guess what this is coming down
the pike and get it's going to get worse before
it gets better.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
All the problem is I had to get up and
be it at a hospital at work at eight in
the morning. And if I'm tired, if I'm fatigued, and
I can make a mistake for patient.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Care, absolutely no question run them up against my break.
So I got to let you go. Is always so
great to tell you voice. Thank you my friend. All right,
we are done for the night. Thanks Thanks Ron, talk
soon we had done for the night. Rob, nice job tonight, Marie,
a great job. I want to thank everyone who called.
I want to thank everyone who listened. I will be
on Facebook real quickly. I'm ready to do it. Get
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and again. Jump on Facebook. Nice that with Dan Ray
and then I'll see you tomorrow. I'll be here at
four point thirty doing pregame and back tomorrow night at
eight oh five. We will have the car guys tomorrow
night from ten to twelve and we will talk with
two women who are really having a problem shipping toward
the trees and supplies to you troops overseas. My name's Danray.
This is Nightside. Thank you very much for listening. Thanks
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for being part of Nightside
It's with Dan Ray.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm telling you Boston's Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
All right, Thanks very much, Dan Walkins. You're absolutely up
to date on the baseball scores. Yankees are out. They
skunk the Red Sox, but the Blue jayskunt them. So
I guess all is fear and love in the American
League playoffs. My name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside by
the Way, just tomorrow night. I'd like to preview tomorrow
night's show for you a little bit. I tend not
(00:28):
to be as good as I should be in previewing programs.
Tomorrow night at ten o'clock, we will have the WBZ
Car Guys with Scott and Larry, and they will take
all of your questions. We'll have them for a couple
of hours, so you want to get in early because
the lines do really fill up with Scott and Larry.
Any question you have about your car, maybe the type
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of car you're looking at. They have such an amazing
understanding of virtually every type of automobile that you can imagine.
That's number one and number two. They'll give you all
the tips you need to have as we move into
the winter driving season. And of course it's not winter yet,
but it's gonna be a little chilly tomorrow, so stay warm.
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And then at nine o'clock tomorrow night, we're going to
talk to two women who do great work basically shipping
materials overseas to US soldiers, Marines, Navy, et cetera. And
those heroic women they put together I would call them
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care packages whatever you want, a lot of toiletries, candy
and all of that. And now for some reason they're
being they're really being given a hard time, not by
the US post Office, but apparently by some form of
one of the international postal agencies. So they have to
literally list every specific item. You know, they'll put a
(01:58):
box together, you know, could be you know, eight or
ten inches by eight or ten inches, so that you'd
have a few things in there. But they have to
now list everything and this is a burden on them.
And then we're going to talk about that tomorrow night
at nine o'clock. So having said that, what I want
to do is I want to continue to talk about
these two ugly incidents in Boston. We talked on Monday
(02:22):
night about this so called meet up where people had
driven to I guess Brockton and then some of them
went to Rockland, and then some of them went up
to the Home Depot parking lot in West Roxbury and
then they all showed up at one thirty and they
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blocked intersections. They caused a huge problem at one thirty
on Sunday morning at the intersection of Tremont and Mass Avenue,
and eventually a Boston police cruiser was ignited. People who
are friends of mine, who know a lot more this
that I do, say they did. They don't think it
was just a firecracker that basically turned put the police
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cruisers car, the car the cruiser on fire. That it
had to be somebody who did it intentionally. And then
last night about nine thirty, there was a demonstration it's
called a Week of Rage by Students for Justice in Palestine,
really a pro Hamas organization, and they came looking for
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a fight with the Boston Police Department and they got
that fight, that's for sure. Earlier tonight I read the
names of those who were arrested. Now all of them
enjoy the presumption of innocence. That's fine. However, however, I
want to read the names to you one more time.
In their ages, which I think is most important, and
where they're from, So we start off with Osama L. Katib.
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He's twenty six from Watertown. Okay, he was there, he
got arrested. Most of them are for assaulting a police officer.
Atwood twenty one from Somerville. He's the guy who allegedly
punched a police officer, broke his nose and the police
officer now will need reconstructive surgery. Hailey McIntyre twenty four
of Dorchester, Madlin Michael twenty seven of Watertown. Jacob Pettigrew
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twenty two of Molden, A moon Prophet, that's the name,
A moon Prophet twenty five of Alston, Laieth Hinsman nineteen
in Boston. Benjamin Andre Chu Crown twenty of Medford, Owen
Woodcock twenty six of Boston. He's kind of a senior
citizen in the group here. Prolade A Younga twenty five
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of Boston, Styx Hatch nineteen of Boston, and Gabrielle Smith
twenty eight of Cambridge. All were charged with resisting arrest,
as orderly conduct and disturbing the peace. Atwood faces that
addition of charge of assault and battery of a police
officer and destruction of property. So I think think This
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is going to be a problem that we're going to
see more of in the weeks ahead. I think that,
combined with the antipathy towards Donald Trump, and combined with
his threats of sending National Guard troops into various cities,
I guess he's already sent some to Chicago, Memphis, Tennessee, Portland, Oregon,
and of course Washington, where he had more opportunity because
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Washington is not a separate state, it's the district of Columbia.
Let's go to the phones. Oh yeah, let me get
one sound bite by mistake, I just want to play
one sound bite from Governor Healy, and she's pretty strong
on this cut thirty four, please, rub.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I wanted to take a few moments to today to
address something that is really bothering me right now. You know,
I'm a former prosecutor, I'm a former attorney general. I'm
also the governor. And what I've seen, particularly over the
last week are a few weeks, is something I want to
address right now, and that is this trend of car
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meetups of drag racing in communities.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
And we've been.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Hearing about this for a little bit. Now I've convened
roundtables with law enforcement in various regions of the state,
and we talked about a number of things. But one
of the things that we talked about is that increasingly
there are efforts online to send word out and then
ask people to meet up at a particular location, oftentimes
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at night, and then drag race carts. And we saw
incidents in Ball River in Boston over the weekend in Brockton,
and I just want to be really clear on a
couple of things. Do not engage in that behavior. Anyone
who engages in that conduct will be found and will
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be held accountable to the furthest extent of the law.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Well, let's say, if the words are backed up by action,
I suspect there will be future events like this. You've
seen the kids on the motorbikes who have taken their
motorbikes and driven on to the Southeast Expressway into the
Tip O'Neil tunnel. It's just outrageous behavior, absolutely outrageous behavior.
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Let me go to Terry down on the Cape. Terry,
welcome back.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
How are you I can.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I'm okay, thank you. I hope you're feeling better. I
think you need to steam and put a little vixed
in the water and just cleam it up.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Oh yeah, I'll be on the road to recovery tomorrow.
Get a good night's sleep. I'll be fine. You go
right ahead. What's your thought on all of this?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
So this is terrorism, yes, in a simple term that
I don't even like to admit that's happening in our state,
but it is. But I'm not quite sure what to
do about the cars. Honestly, that is a real issue.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, if here's here's what I would do. Here's what
I would do if there were some kids or older
people who who thought it was a good idea to
uh to drive their cars to a to a specified intersection,
uh and just cause havoc doing you know, donuts in
the intersection and all of that. Once we got some
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police there, I would confiscate the cars. I would say,
you have just lost your car. We are confiscating this
car and we are either going to send them to
a to a junk yard where it will be crushed,
or uh, we're going to to to sell it to
a used car dealer who intern will sell it. I
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think I think that the state has a lot of
when when you use an item. For example, if you
use your car to transport drugs, you know, illicit drugs.
They can confiss gate the car because it's associated with
the crime. Well, if you're going to drive your car
to a meetup and you're going to be spinning around
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and causing havoc, I think that car can be confiscated.
And I'll bet you if you started to confiscate cars,
that would be the end of meetups.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Like yesterday, I pick all their licenses aly immediately, Well.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
They could still go drop that would be true, that's true.
Take the licenses away for a minimum of three years.
The last thing some kid who's twenty or twenty two
or twenty four wants to do is lose his or
her license. But if they get if they take the
cars away, if it's mom and dad's car, they have
to go explain to mom and dad why their car
is now headed to a junk yard or headed to
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be sold. I just think we got to get aggressive
with this stuff and stop it.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Oh, absolutely absolutely. I wonder how many of the cars
and vehicles are stolen.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
That's a possibility. And obviously if you catch some in
the stolen vehicle, now you can enhance the charges and
you can say Okay, not only did you disturb the peace,
not only did you involve in a car meet up,
not only did you close off an intersection. The governor
today said that at one of these over the weekend,
there was an ambulance that was trying to get a
patient to a hospital and they had to divert the
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way they went, and that additional time outrageous, outrageous, that
additional time. That could be you or me in the
back of an ambulance, and every second counts.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
That's right, They have no conc.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
It's where is these assemblies on foot go. Anybody that
doesn't have a permit to assembol should immediately be dispersed
to a stay of a crowd. And I'm took and
sending four or five fire trucks and tose them down.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I like you style. If I ever become governor, you're
going to become my commissioner of Public Safety to well.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I just want you to know I also put a
remand at all of them. I wouldn't let any of
them go today. I would send them ninety days in
patient Bridgewater State Hospital under a rocked toward away from
each other, take all of their devices away, don't let them,
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even contact the leadership wherever they may be and interrogate
them for ninety days. And then when they come back
to court after their dangerousness and all that stuff is done, minimum,
every single one of them go to jail for a year.
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The guy that broke the police officers knows, oh, he's
going for five years.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Carry I've not.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Done I've not done that. He gets ten years. There
is maximum probation with the strictest rules on him that
if one infraction happens, he finishes back in jail with
another ten years added when he gets out.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I'm telling you now, if i haven't become governor, I
think I'm going to have to make you a judge.
As opposed the commissions.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
So I'm serious. We can't give them from now on.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
From now on, Terry, as far as I'm concerned, you
a judge, Terry, I want you to know that. Okay,
you're my sort of a judge.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I will take that as a compliment, Dan, and please
be well because we all need your voice.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Thanks, Terry, I do appreciate it. I'll be fine. I'll
take a couple of days and I'm on some medications
now and I'll be in good shape and I'll get
a good night's sleep and we'll be we'll be back
at it tomorrow. Terry, thank you so much for royalty
and your friendship. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Okay, thanks, thank you with the spy biker.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Great call. We'll take a quick break. I got John,
I got Jimmy, and I want Ruffie and I have
some room for other people. Six one seven, two, five
four ten thirty six one seven nine three thirty. I
think too many of you sit at home and you
don't have the courage to call and express yourself.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You sit there and you say, I don't want someone
to recognize my voice. Let me tell you if we
don't stand up to these hooligans. Hooligans are what they
call the soccer fans in England who run onto the
field and abuse the players and other fans. But these
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are nothing. These are political hooligans. And the SJP, the
Students for Justice in Palestine, that is that is a
anti Semitic organization. Whether they are membership, knows it or not. Okay,
it's as simple as that. And again, hats off to
Governor Heally for her comments today. I'd like to see
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comments strongo comments from governor Woo from mayor wu. Uh,
and I want to hear your comments. And if I
get to hear one person who disagreed with well, the
only person was Jeff and Abingdon. But Jeff is just
kind of a curmudgeon anyway, so uh, I'd like to
let him on just so you can see how crazy
some people are. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten
thirty six one seven, nine three ten thirty. Right now,
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if you're in Abington, you can hear Jeff screaming back
on nights Side. Right after this, It's.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Night Side with Dan rays Hazy, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Okay, back to the Phone's got some open lines during
the conversation, get you in. Let me go to John
in Boston. Hey John, welcome back. How are you sir? Hey?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Dan, thank you?
Speaker 6 (14:42):
How are you great?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
And I'm just the that's awesome. The ages of these people.
Gabriel Smith's twenty eight, Ohwen Woodcock twenty six, Osama twenty six,
AM and Propa twenty five. He's on kids Den. These
are adults. Another guy prah had Ben got twenty five.
These are adults. Deal they go to war with nineteen
year olds and here are these people on the streets
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calling the cops. Think go ironic.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
This is this.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
They're calling the cops Nazis, wearing Yasser Arafat Cafifa headdress,
and who trained Yasa Arafat. They're calling the cops Nazi
who trained yasa Arafat and the techniques of terror? It
was Otto Skorzany who trained Yasa Arafat and the terror techniques.
And he trains a Muzzlim brotherhood. And he happened to
be Hitler's favorite commando who rescued Mussolini in the mountain.
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So Hitler's favorite commando trained Yasa Arafat. And these clowns
are wearing the Kaviva hats and calling the cops Nazis.
It's and they're grabbing their equipment, their cameras, they're radios,
and they're attacking them in there's money behind this, did
I know? It's George Soros and the Open Society. These
people are being their leaders, being paid. Someone's being paid,
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and they're getting these maybe younger people to join them.
But these there are definitely adults in this stand and
that was terrorists. Last night. I was a mile and
a half. I could have easily driven because I was
with the family and you know the kids we got
caught in an interception and they surrounded the car. Uh,
it could be extremely dangerous for both sides. And this
is it's simply it's innock terrorized in the city of Boston.
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It terrorizes older people. People are gonna come to the
city to the restaurants in that was downtown. You've got
really nice restaurants.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I know.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
This just ticks me off there because I was right.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Everybody. Everybody knows where Park Street station is. Is the
foot of the State House, or if you walk out
the front door of the State House, walk down Park
Street and you're right there on Tremont, that's where that's
where all the action was. And they picked that location.
The good part about it was it wasn't in the
middle of the common because at that point they could
have done things to the cops that no one would
have been able to see. So, you know, some police
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office is going to end up getting stabbed or shot.
This is this is going to get worse before it
gets better, and people of goodwill better start articulating their
opposition into this because this is first of all, this
starts with October seventh, twenty twenty three when innocent Israeli men, women, children,
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and babies were slaughtered by Jimas you know, And you're right,
this does trace back, This does trace back to Hitler.
You're absolutely right, John.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Anyone can look up to anyone just this historical record.
And they came last night with fireworks, smoke grenades, flaars weapons.
They were attacking. They're attacking cops and and it's terrorized
in the city. And I know cops again, that arrest
of the guy with a legal gun and then a
week later the rest and the DA lets them up.
(17:40):
The next day, a week later they get the same
guy's got another gun illegal and the DA lets them out.
The legal system is letting these clowns off without any
kind of serious penalty. And this is just getting worse
and worse than like you said, yeah, a couple of
weeks ago that two hundred biseless on the motor bikes
of all types on the highway.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
And this is terrorism in the city of Boston. This
terrorism in an ok because it's scary.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Well this one is, yeah, this is political terrorism. Okay.
I think that's important to make that point. I don't
think that the automobile meetups are political. That's a form
of terrorism. I mean, if you're driving home some night
and you're an elderly person, or if you're driving home
and you're a twenty five year old and all of
(18:27):
a sudden you're going through an intersection and people are
spinning their wheels and doing donuts and whatever. Yeah, that's
a tough spot to be in, John, You're absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah it was. This was definitely a plan. They brought weapons,
they were planning on it. Anarchy and I know a
lot of people who live in those ears, that work
in those areas. It's just terrorizing the city and they plan,
they're playing with fire, allowing us to go on. It's
just it's not going to get worse. Donald Trump needs
to send the troops head. Boston is short a thousand
(18:59):
cops and four of them got injured last night that
we know for sure, maybe more, and all the equipment
and there was burning, everything wasston He's the national got here.
We're short police and they're allowing this to go on,
and the cops are over worked, they're working double shifts
in they're gonna put up with this graph from these
twenty eight, twenty six, twenty five year old clowns that
have coming, well.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Some of them are even younger than that. I mean
some of them are. They were well, I could just
reach just some of the ages you got twenty one,
twenty twenty two, nineteen, twenty nineteen, so there were some
in their late twenties, but none of them were older
than twenty eight. So we're talking about young people, and
(19:42):
those are political organizers. Those are political luck. That kid
from Tufts, he should be bounced out of Toughs. Okay,
And if tos is are smart, if TUFs is smart,
they want to say, hey, that behavior is not tolerated
on campus. You're suspended for a year. If you want
to apply to be you know, a year from now,
you can reapply to come back to Tough Toughs University.
(20:05):
But but to let him be taking classes next week
or or this week is a is a uh is
a disgrace. That is a disgrace the Toughs. And I
have friends of mine, including Scott Brown, who are tough graduates.
Toughs is a great school. This kid's a little rich
kid out of Connecticut who went to a very you know,
(20:26):
elegant day school, I believe, or overnight school in New Jersey.
So I'm sure his parents have a lot of money,
a lot of money. John, I've got to run here
because I got my CBS report coming up on what's
going on again, John, we're out of time. Here's a
CBS News special report.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
It's Night's Eye with Dan Ray on.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
All right, let's get back to the phone. Is gonna
go to Jimmy in Boston. Jimmy, you're next on Nightside,
Go right ahead.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
Yeah, jim.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
I'm retired from a department here in Boston. Also served
in the Marine Corps.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
So I.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Thank you for both of those services.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
By the way, I think, well, I'll do it, do it,
do it all again.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
If I could, if I was younger.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
So I got caught. I got a call today and said,
you need to look at this Boston twenty five News
Facebook page that the governor put out about this car
club stuff. So the past five years we monitor a
lot of coy washers, pocking watch and everything else. And
(21:41):
one of the big problems why we got all these
calls was because of these meetups.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Dan.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
They come out at eleven thirty at night, one in
the morning, three in the morning, so I started, so
in the past couple of years, I've been posting the
videos that we have so on this. But if people
go on to Facebook Boston twenty five News from today
and has Tomorrow Hareley on there, they'll see the videos
that posted five of them.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
They come out with approximately like two hundred cars. They
will pull into a pocking lot. Okay. When they pull in,
the cars are popping, the rain, news are blaring. But
when they pull in, DN two hundred cars will pull
into a pocking lot with under a minute. Okay. And
(22:34):
there's been the they you know, they call their car clubs,
they call them okay, and they drift this and when
they drift, anything can happen. And when we have a
guy sitting there lots of times I've been there myself
taking these videos. Okay, and they are and they are wild.
(22:56):
You can smell the weed, you can smell it, you
can sell it in the air, of course you gain okay.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
And first of all, they're doing this it probably after midnight.
There was a big one of these a couple of
years ago. It was on at an intersection I believe
it was Newbury and Dartmuth Street right in the.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Heart of the back day. We've been monitor these.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
I've got friends that are retired, I got friends on
the force, state police, local police, everywhere. We keep in
touch with each other. Okay, and this is gonna get
I'm gonna get a little bit more in depth with
this where it all comes from that now she makes
a stance. Okay, So when now you know we get
these calls. You know they come in, we make these calls.
(23:39):
We you know, we're told to call nine one one,
which we do.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
Okay, and last year I.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Won't say the town.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
So the.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
On one certain property, a big mall property. The owner
they've been showing up on his property numerous times.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
So they said, you need to you.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Need to hire a security company. Owner says, fine, I'll
finally do it because we can't keep showing up here.
We need to you know, taxpayers pay for our services too.
So they show up. Two hundred cars come through one night.
I'm sitting here, and what do they They show up
(24:24):
with two cruises. They just they baby gotta go gotta
one citation. The one pulled over. So I said, they
know who I am. I said, can I ask you why?
You know we can't engage what do you mean you
can't engage. We're told we cannot engage. I'm asking the supervisor,
(24:45):
who's telling you you can't engage? About them is telling?
So after after the seventh time this happens, after a
few months, I said, listen, you're gonna tell me who's
telling you you can't engage. It's going higher up. So
I'm starting to make my calls. Dwell, dwelt the state. Okay,
(25:06):
so where it actually came from? Okay, and this is
a fact. And then we've already proven it all right,
the governor. The governor got a hold of the mayors,
which the mayor's passes down to the police chiefs. If
you don't have any arrest, there's no reports, so it
shows that there's no crime exactly. Remember where we're in.
(25:30):
We're in the election time right now. No, No, she
has a good chance of winning. Now it's time to
show force.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Well, I think that she's going to backslide a little
bit here. She's backfilling, I should say. And the Republicans. Uh,
and there's three of them at this point. Uh. They
those folks can call into this show if they wanted to.
They could have called in tonight. You know, and uh,
they don't seem to take advantage of that. So I'm
not going to personally invite them, but their citizens of
(26:03):
the Commonwealth, and they have a right to call in
as well.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
So by this has been ongoing, this is I mean,
I'm going back five years now.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
This isn't just something that's going and she's.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Very well aware of it.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
No, I agree.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
I here's another thing that you brought up, like the
citations of it. Okay, and I and I explained something
to one of one of the younger officers. Okay, I
mean we're old school offices. Okay, see you grab one
of them. Okay, Now you got them on trespassing, because
usually on these places as trespassing, sirey, usually a town
(26:41):
has an ordinance which you can grab them for one
hundred and fifty to two hundred and fifty dollars. Fine.
Once when you have them on that, now all of
a sudden, if you roll down the window, you can
smell the weed.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
Now all of a sudden you have them on that.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Now you have them step out of the vehicle. Now
all of a sudden you get a search, you find something,
and all of a sudden you have them on that.
Now you start running plates. Most likely you may come
up with a suspension or something like that. Now you
have them on that.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
Yeah there, now the windows attempted, Now you have on that.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Fine, Now you I got it like that.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I got it, Jimmy, Jimmy. I don't know if you
could hear me or not, but you don't have to yell.
I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
No, you're absolutely right. And the bottom line is, even
if you write him and they have to come into
court on a Monday morning or on a Tuesday morning,
now you got him in court. Now you can start
to play with him a little bit. And nobody likes
to get have to go into court. Nobody likes to
have to go into court.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Nobody does.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Okay, So yeah, well look I appreciate your perspective. Thank
you so much.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
This isn't this isn't a new thing that's happening.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
It's five plus years.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Oh yeah, no, believe me, Believe me, I'm familiar with that,
and that's why I'm doing it tonight and giving it
particular attention. I wish more people would call in, but
you were one of the best, if not the best,
call of tonight in terms of just the information.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Take a look. Take a look at that boss and
twenty five Facebook thing. You'll see the videos on there.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Everyone, Okay, thanks very much, you gave it a good plug.
Thanks you, talk to you later. Have a great night.
Let me go next to Michelle in Pembroke. Hi, Michelle,
welcome next on Nightside.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Hello Dan, I'm great Michelle.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
How are you notice everyone tonight? No one is defending
these activities. Everybody is appalled, which I'm very happy about.
But go right ahead.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
What I'd like to know is why are they only
being charge with maybe trespassing, you know, maybe distally conduct.
What else could they be charged with? As far as
I can see, if you're in a car and you're
driving it, you should be charged with reckless driving. Absolutely absolutely,
(28:59):
And and I also believe when you start terrorizing people.
I don't know what the actual legal definition of domestic
terrorism is, but I know if I was out and
I was surrounded, I would consider that an assault or
(29:19):
a battery, even if they never put their hands on me,
even if they're terrorizing.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
No, No, it's clearly no. Well, first of all, it's
obviously an assault, because what an assault is is someone
is in fear. It's from your perspective, okay, And so
you know, if there's two guys arguing in the street
and one guy gets a little aggressive and I'm going
to beat your brains out, that's assault. It becomes battery
(29:46):
once they touch the guy and he pokes him in
the shoulder, that's assault and battery when you punch a cop.
Has happened last night by a twenty one year old
student from Toff's Little rich kid. Uh, that's assault, the
battery and a police officer. And what I was arguing
before is that just as if you're using your car
(30:08):
to transport drugs to sell drugs, let's say they can
confiscate the car.
Speaker 8 (30:14):
Okay, absolutely, they are using your car as a weapon,
they should be able to confiscate it.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yes, yeah, And so either send it to a junk
yard and have it crushed, or sell it for a
dollar to uh, you know, or whatever whatever the blue
book is to. I'm sure that there's plenty of used
car places who would love the inventory. And at that point,
this kid, whether it's an eighteen year old or twenty
eight year old, he's walking home at two o'clock in
(30:42):
the morning.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
I totally agree with every point you've made. But what
I don't understand is why are they never really held accountable.
They get a little slap on the wrist. Maybe it's
Massachusetts with what they should.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Michelle as well as I do. It's Massachusetts.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
I know you're one of the wrong state.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Well we're one party state. No, no, no, we're a
one party state. It's Massachusetts, and the Republican Party doesn't
run enough candidates. If they ever are going to get
up off the mat, the Republican Party in Massachusetts, they
should get up off the mat next year and run
as many candidates as possible. But I'm not the political
(31:23):
strategist for the Republican Party. I could just tell you
whenever you have a state where there's only one party,
it's not gonna it's not going to be good for
the for the population. It's like if you only have
one grocery store within fifty miles of your house, they can.
Speaker 8 (31:36):
Raise whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
You got it. So you know in effect this, you
know there's an anti trust violation here in terms of politics.
Now again it's up to the Republican Party to get going,
and we try to give them some encouragement, but welcome
to Massachusetts. All right, Michelle, thank you, thank you so much,
(32:03):
love your call. Thanks calling call more often? Will I
like your fire and I like your passion. Thank you?
Speaker 8 (32:09):
All right, thanks, good night, good night, all right.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
The other side, I got Tina, I got ron, I
got room for you. Six one, seven, two, five, four
ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty.
Come on right back on night Side.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
I'm WZ Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Now let's go to Tina in roone Socket, Rhode Island. Hi, Tina,
welcome back.
Speaker 9 (32:32):
Oh yeah, Hi Dan, I tuned in late after ten o'clock. Okay,
but I'm so glad, Yeah, I'm so glad you're addressing
this issue. And those two punks from Rhode Island who
were also participating in the meetup. What I'm going to
ask you is low intensity. But I know this. I
(32:55):
think one factor is you get these cars now that
are all supercharged and they make such noise. And I
noticed on the highway now when a car was going
really really fast, you had police officers going after them.
And I don't see that happening now. There's so much
(33:17):
disregard for the for the law, and a lot of
these young people they want to terrorize the community. Well,
this is my question.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Go ahead, I ask you a question, but I think
I know what your question is going to be, and
I got a good answer for you.
Speaker 9 (33:33):
Okay. My question is this, in the summertime, sometimes you
have people coming around in their cars late at night
blasting their music. Do I have the right to call
the police and tell them and will they do something
about it?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Well, it depends, and I'll tell you why it depends.
What happens is that you have lawyers now who are
saying to police departments, well, unless it's like a serious
crime like a murder or a bank robbie robbery, if
someone's speeding, don't chase them, because if you speed after
them and they go faster and they get into an accident,
(34:12):
we might be liable. The town of the city might
be liable. So you have all of these cowardly select
men or select women who tell the police chief don't
pursue anyone. And so that's what happens. And their attitude
is they would rather have you woken up every night
by someone driving by with loud music or someone on
(34:38):
Route twenty four. Some you know that comes up behind
you and you know you're going sixty five in the
left lane and they're flashing your lights and forcing you over,
which can be dangerous. That's the sort of stuff the
cops that cops should be concerned about. Pull someone like
that over, give them a warning or write them a ticket.
Simple as that we have gotten away from it.
Speaker 9 (34:57):
Yeah, it's terrorizing the community. It stops small and it
gets bigger and bigger to what's happening.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
It's what's it's what's called the old broken windows theories.
If you, if you pay attention to broken windows, the
other stuff will fall in line. That's a theory that
Bill Bratton has and I think it makes a lot
of sense. It's like in your house. You know, if
all of a sudden you spill something something on the floor, uh,
and you clean it up right away, your house is
probably going to stay as a clean house. But if
(35:25):
you don't get it tomorrow and all of a sudden,
it's sticky on the floor and then yeah yeah, and
then it's on the carpet. You know. It's like pay attention,
if you if you, if you take care of the
little stuff, the big stuff is less likely to happen.
I got to get one more in Tina. I love
your call.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yay, thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Talk soon. Good questions, Ron and Newton. Ron, you're gonna
wrap the hour for us, Go right.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Ahead, run a Dan just quickly.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
I don't I don't quite understand the reticence to deploy
our national Guard. They have been deployed, oh god, eleven times,
I guess, in six presidents since nineteen fifty seven.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, well, I'm with you. I think that in a
city like Chicago, where kids, little kids are killed every weekend,
they have a horrific They don't care. The mayor of
Chicago could care less about people on the south side.
The governor of Illinois could care less about people who
live on the south side. They walk around with their
police detachments. They've protected. No one's going to bother them.
(36:30):
They're immune from it. But that's who Chicago and Illinois
voted in. And so as Barack Obama wants that elections
have consequences.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
Yeah well, I would argue that the threshold should be
much lower these days. With the Internet. We didn't have
the internet back in this fifties and sixties and seventies.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Absolutely, and these meetups are the great example of that.
Back in the old days, you'd have to call a
friend on the phone and say, hey, do you want
to go and race to drag racing tonight or whatever?
And before guys they had drag racing. Now, with the
groups and all of that, they can gay can turn
out two hundred people anywhere they want.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Dan, I don't know for sure, but Sunday night at
one in the morning for an hour, that's all I heard.
I'm close to Walthamon was but that's it was an hour.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Well, let me tell you they did this in Newton's
Center three or four weeks ago. It didn't get much publicity.
But again, the mayor should have been on top of that.
The police department should have been on top of that.
People pay big real estate taxes to live in peace
and quietude in Newton, and they need to have the
(37:48):
police out there making sure that these people are not
interfering with your night's sleep or what or other people's
night's sleep. It's as simple as that you don't. But again,
we're going to hit this a lot in the next
few weeks, Ron because guess what this is coming down
the pike and get it's going to get worse before
it gets better.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
All the problem is I had to get up and
be it at a hospital at work at eight in
the morning. And if I'm tired, if I'm fatigued, and
I can make a mistake for patient.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Care, absolutely no question run them up against my break.
So I got to let you go. Is always so
great to tell you voice. Thank you my friend. All right,
we are done for the night. Thanks Thanks Ron, talk
soon we had done for the night. Rob, nice job tonight, Marie,
a great job. I want to thank everyone who called.
I want to thank everyone who listened. I will be
on Facebook real quickly. I'm ready to do it. Get
(38:42):
and again. Jump on Facebook. Nice that with Dan Ray
and then I'll see you tomorrow. I'll be here at
four point thirty doing pregame and back tomorrow night at
eight oh five. We will have the car guys tomorrow
night from ten to twelve and we will talk with
two women who are really having a problem shipping toward
the trees and supplies to you troops overseas. My name's Danray.
This is Nightside. Thank you very much for listening. Thanks
(39:04):
for being part of Nightside
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