November 5, 2024 • 39 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And your complete coverage of campaign twenty twenty four is
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right here on Boston's news station WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Lots of things to vote on today. On election day
in Massachusetts, voters were asked a few questions at the
ballot box ballid questions, five of them. Wbz's Nicole Davis
has been keeping an eye on the results. Slow to
get the results in, I guess, but you want to
get them right, of course.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Well, of course, absolutely every vote counts, and we are
getting these results slowly but surely. And as for question one,
the question about auditing the legislature, Yes on one, since
we first started getting these results around eight o'clock has
had a pretty healthy lead, with thirty three percent of
the results in it stays that way seventy one to
twenty nine percent. Question two, which is all about getting
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rid of the mcast graduation requirement, with about thirty two
percent in yes on two, still steady up sixty to
forty percent. Question three, if passed, would allow rod share
drivers to unionize here in the Bay State. About thirty
three percent of that vote in yes on three, still
ahead fifty three to forty seven percent. Question five, the
question about raising the minimum wage for tipped employees.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
No.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
On five, still on top here, sixty five to thirty
five percent. And then then we've got another question all
about mental health treatment.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
That is right, Nicole.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Question four is all about the ability to grow and
use certain psychedelics. Wbz's Jared Brosnan as more on that.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
Question four asks voters to consider the legalization of naturally
occurring psychedelic drugs like DMT, mescalin, and psilocybin aka what's
found in magic mushrooms. If passed, anyone over twenty one
years old can grow, share, or use psychedelics at home
as long as they stay.
Speaker 7 (01:35):
Below the legal threshold for each substance.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
But outside of growing them yourself, the only way to
get the substances is through licensed professionals, so it wouldn't
be as easy as going to a dispensary for marijuana
or a liquor store for alcohol. Those against legalization point
to the potential health risks from adverse reactions to the
drugs and say they're unsure how the state can regulate
at home use. They also worry about a lack of
a breathalyzer type device that can instantly detect whether someone's
under the influence. Those in favors say so phichadelics psilocybin
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in particular, can help treat things like post traumatic stress
disorder and anxiety. They also argue that expensive treatment costs
would mitigate any rampant recreational use. Jared Brosnan WBZ Boston's
News Radio and.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
When it comes to question four for a bit, the
race was pretty much fifty to fifty, but with thirty
one percent reporting now no votes arranging out fifty seven
to forty three percent. Marijuana has also been a top
issue in a lot of states this election day. Massachusetts
legalized recreational pot in twenty sixteen. This year, voters in
Florida rejected a ballid measure to legalize recreational marijuana in
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their state. In the Dakotas, voters had similar measures. Those
tallies still too close to call. Nebraska is voting on
whether or not to legalize medical cannabis. Nebraska one of
just six states where marijuana is still completely outlawed, even
in medical settings. Twenty four states and the District of
Columbia have already legalized recreational pot. Republican Kelly Ayo taking
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the governor's race in New Hampshire. Today the WDBZ Sherry
Small is here with the latest art man.
Speaker 8 (03:01):
With that win, next year New Hampshire, we'll have his
third woman governor in the state's history, former US Senator
Kelly Ayot defeating former Manchester Mayor Democrat Joyce Craig. Now,
this was one of the most competitive gubernatorial races in
the country. Addressing supporters in Salem, Ayot called her win
a victory for an even brighter future for the greatest
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state in the nation. Craig posting on exit, she was
proud of the race that they ran, and said she
called aot and wished her luck. Now, as far as
the two congressional districts go, District one incumbent Democrat Chris
pappiz with the seven point lead over Republican Russell Prescott
House District two, Democrat Maggie Goodlander has a solid eleven
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point lead over Republican Lily Tang Williams. The AP, though
has not yet called either of those races been.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
All right then Vermont Republican Governor Phil Scott he won
reelection to his fifth two year term. Democrat Josh Stein
wins the North Carolin a lot of Google to Torto race.
He beat Republican incombent Mark Robinson, whose campaign was dragged
into the national limelfe about reports of controversial comments he
allegedly made in the past. Governor Lex Stein thanking his
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supporters after the race was called.
Speaker 9 (04:14):
We chose hope over hates, competence over chaos, decency over division.
That's who we are as North Carolinians.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Meantime, the presidential race in North Carolina is still too
close to call, though it is leaning toward former President
Donald Trump's favor. And we want to give you another
update on the presidential race numbers. Kabla Harris has won
Washington state. We told you earlier she had also won
her home state of California, Donald Trump winning Idaho, and
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so as it sits right now, Kanala Harris has won
twelve states, one district in Maine as well as the
district of Columbia, while Donald Trump has twenty two states
under his belt and one district Nebraska. The election results
in terms of the electoral vote count, former President Trump
with two hundred and fourteen, vice President Kamala Harris sitting
at one hundred and seventy nine. Well all across the nation,
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Voters are keeping an eye on the balance of power
in Congress. More and more votes are being counted in
wbz's Emma Friedman is here with the latest on those votes.
Speaker 10 (05:19):
Emma Ben Democrats are facing strong headwinds to defend their
narrow fifty one to forty nine majority. There's still thirteen
races to be called. The GOP has gained one seat
in West Virginia, with Jim Justice that seat replacing Senator
Joe Manchin. Ohio is still counting the votes as of now,
Republican Bernie and Marino is leading with eighty five percent
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of the votes counted. If he wins, that would flip
the seat long held by Democrat Chared Brown. Meantime, Vermont's
Bernie Sanders, Connecticut's Chris Murphy, and Rhode Islands Sheldon Whitehouse
all held on to their Senate seat. We're going to
keep you up to date here with Waldswall election coverage.
Ben back to you all right.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
And in Maryland, Democrat Angela also Brooks has projected to
win the Senate race there. Also, Brooks spoke about her opponent,
former Governor Larry Hogan, after the race was called.
Speaker 11 (06:07):
I received a call from Governor Hogan congratulating me on
tonight's victory, offering his congratulations and the congratulations of you.
Me and I know that we both share a very
deep love from Maryland and commitment to Maryland, so I
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certainly want to thank him so much for his service.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Also, Brooks will be the first black woman to represent
Maryland in the US Senate, Richard Neil holding off his
challenger for the Massachusetts first Congressional district. There were three
other races with challengers, but five of the congress Members
of Congress from Massachusetts were unopposed this time around, Jay Cochincloss,
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Seth Moulten, and Catherine Clark among them. In Connecticut, Senator
Chris Murphy won re election to a third term. Voting
is a right, whether you've been casting ballots for decades
or this is your first time going to the polls.
WBC's Aile Shaffle catching up with all of the above.
Speaker 12 (07:07):
For Julia Mitchell, this election day is different from every other.
This first time in my life, I vote. I'm sixty
going on sixty seven. After decades on the political sideline,
She's decided to vote on this one. Julia wasn't Donald
Trump's camp during his presidency, but his behavior in the
last days of the campaign trails motivated her to cast
a ballot against him.
Speaker 10 (07:25):
A president shouldn't make derogatory, you know, remarks about anybody.
Speaker 12 (07:31):
Plenty of voters here at a West Roxbury polling station
tell me the act of voting is a sacred right
and duty. It's all the more powerful for Brandon, who
is stripped from the voter rules in Texas nearly a
dozen times before coming here. It's meant a lot to
me to be able to just come down here and
just vote. And the power of the vote reaches across
the aisle for this Trump voter too.
Speaker 13 (07:48):
No, I always want I think it's the right thing
to do.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
Obviously, a lot of people fought in this country to
be able to vote.
Speaker 12 (07:53):
So Kyle Schaffel w BS Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
More of the votes are being counted, a couple more
states still need to close their poll We'll keep you
up the date here on WBZ throughout the evening, the
overnight hours, and of course join us tomorrow morning.
Speaker 13 (08:06):
First thing.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Jeff Brown will be here with all of the information
you need to start your day and trafficing weather together
as well. I'm Ben Parker.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Night side with Dan Ray Election Night in America WBZ,
Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 14 (08:24):
I'm delighted to welcome back to our microphone someone who's
become a regular guest on all of these big election nights,
Former Lieutenant Governor Calmwealth of Massachusetts.
Speaker 13 (08:34):
Tom O'Neil, the third and the.
Speaker 14 (08:37):
Namesake son of I think the greatest House speaker in history,
Former House Speaker Tom Tip O'Neil. Tom O'Neil, welcome back
to night's side. I know this is not a great
night for your party, but i'd love to get your
reaction to it as it is evolving. It's not over
until the Fat Lady sings, as they say, but here
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a warming up.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
I thought it would be a better Nightdea, and it's
turning out to be. We needed to do better in
states like New Hampshire in Virginia than we've done, although
we probably will win both of those states. Then we
needed to go south and do better in North Carolina
and Georgia. And Kamala Harris is just not doing as
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well as Joe Biden did four years ago, and she
may well lose both of those states. And though it
leaves US. Then it leads us to the Blue Wall
states of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan, and we need a
minor miracle to win those states. And if she does,
and she becomes an ex president of the United States,
if Donald Trump continues to lead in Wisconsin as he
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has been, then we've got a problem. And tomorrow will
be a different day, and then ex president will be
the fortynth President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
Speaker 14 (09:54):
So I guess there's no one who I know who's
more experienced politically than you, because obviously you learned, you know,
at your father's.
Speaker 13 (10:05):
Me literally growing up. How can you I never thought.
Speaker 14 (10:10):
That after January sixth, Donald Trump would be able, after
all that he has gone through and you know, impeachments, indictments,
could ever get back to this point. I thought he
could cobble together the nomination. But I've never seen a
I know that America loves comebacks, but I've never seen
a political comeback of this magnitude. If indeed he does
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prevail tonight.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
If he does, and and add to that, Dan his
rhetoric over the last two weeks, yeah, yeah, he's an
off message. He's not he's not targeted at his own
his own his own target and base groups. We all
as political strategies really can't understand how he's done as
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well tonight and today as he has done. I think
the better news side of the story is we may
well lose the Senate, but it looks like we're going
to go back and win the House of Representatives of
the US Congress.
Speaker 14 (11:09):
I haven't I haven't thought that I had seth molten
on and I asked him about last hour, and I
know it's it's very close.
Speaker 13 (11:15):
I think that.
Speaker 14 (11:17):
Sharon Brown has just lost Ohio to the Republican candidate.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
They called it. And it looks like John Testa might
lose in Montana, which would lose, which would leave us
for a two seat deficit in the US Senate. But
it looks as well that we might pick up five
or six seats in the US House and it will
give us some macharity in the House. And and that's
great news for balance, you know, balance and in the
in the in the Congress and the edit policy creation.
Speaker 14 (11:46):
I think most people like to have that that sort
of balance. So let me ask you, uh, I guess
a tougher question. Does the leadership well First of first
of all, does the leadership of the Democratic Party. I'm
talking Chuck Schumer and uh, you know Nancy Pelosi who
no longer is the speaker. But do they have to
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at this point give way to new new leadership, you
know within the Democratic Party, people like Seth Moulton and
others who may maybe more in the following the Tip
O'Neill Democrats. I mean, I kind of imagine that your
father would have allowed Union leaders like Sean O'Brien and
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others to walk away from the Democratic Party in the
presidential life.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
I do think, Dan, that we have to come back
and reassess what it is Donald Trump, what he's talking to,
what is his base, what are they listening to? What
is it they want? We want delivering for them. The
fact of the matter is, I am I've always considered
myself a progressive. Yeah, by today's by today's logic, I'd
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be a moderate if I were in the US Congress.
It does some order it and I just think we
have to reassess where the Democratic has been going and
where it needs to reside in order to win the
middle class back where it needs to win. America's honted
back and where those issues that we have traditionally been
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but apparently have lust and you know we've got we've
got the mind and we've got the body. Well we
need is we need to recapture the soul of what's
going on in America.
Speaker 14 (13:28):
That's well said, well said. So my other question, and
again I know that you know the president have known
the president for a long time. I wonder if he
is tonight thinking to himself if I wasn't forced out
or maybe you accept that, maybe you don't, but I
think he was kind of forced out that he can
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look back and say, hey, I was I passed in
twenty sixteen. I beat this guy in twenty in twenty twenty,
and I could have beaten him again tonight. Do you
think regrets within the Biden family?
Speaker 5 (14:02):
I think with you know, he's a human being, So
I'm sure he's thinking about if it were me, could
I have done better than Kamala. The fact of the
matter is, I don't know that that would have been
the case. I think she turned out to be a
very good candidate. I think the people around her gave
her a very strong, strategic kind of target, and I
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think their campaign was right on. That's really the reason
I'm saying to myself, I think we need to go
back and reassess where it is we've been as a
democratic body. Who the hell are we talking to, and
how do we get back to representing you know that
that that that middle class that we have traditionally represented,
and bring it forward so that we can move America ahead.
Speaker 13 (14:44):
Well, it looked to me, you.
Speaker 14 (14:45):
Know, from Afar, that that there was some natural constituencies
which were disappointed. I think that a lot of uh,
you know, Jewish voters probably migrated to Trump, and I think, ironically,
at the same time, there were Muslim voters who migrated
to Trump simultaneously. I don't know how he did that,
but I think that's what the statistics will show.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I think you're right, and I think we have to
figure out how he did to that and what they
heard that we didn't understand, to be perfectly honest with you,
because how a Jewish community can get behind Trump simply
because he moved a capital or an embassy in Israel
is extraordinarily beyond me. When the Democratic body has always
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been the hot of the Israeli state and the Jewish
community and has viewed them as our greatest ally.
Speaker 14 (15:38):
From Harry Truman, who was the first area coming leader
of any country. Tom O'Neill is always I thank you
for staying up late. I wish for you. The results
were a little bit different.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
It's not over yet, but we need me a miracle,
but maybe we'll get it. If we don't, we're going
to stay back and we're going to continue the good fight. Dan,
thanks a minute.
Speaker 13 (15:59):
Thank you so much. Tom, who're talking to Okay, see
you soon. Goodnight.
Speaker 14 (16:03):
All right, we have one other guest coming up, Spencer
Kimball Polster who called Iowa correctly. He'll be with us
in the next half hour. Stay with WBZ throughout the night.
We'll give you the best coverage all the way till
morning's early light.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Campaign twenty twenty four America votes. This is WBZ Boston's news.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Radio, sixty one degrees in Boston at eleven thirty. Good evening,
I'm Ben Parker. Here's what's happening. Some more states called
in the presidential race for Vice president Kamala Harris. She
has won thirteen states plus one district in Maine. In
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the District of Columbia, the latest state to go for
Kamala Harris, Oregon. She now has one hundred and eighty
seven electoral votes, while former President Donald Trump has now
won twenty three states, along with one district in Nebraska. Carolina,
which was a battleground state and both candidates that spent
a lot of time in goes to former President Trump.
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He now has two hundred and thirty electoral votes of
the two hundred and seventy needed to win the White House.
Polls have closed in most of the states across the
country now except for Alaska and Hawaii. Election results slowly
but surely pouring in from every milk and cranny of
the country except one. It'll be quite some time before
we know which presidential candidate won the key swing state
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of Nevada.
Speaker 15 (17:29):
The Secretary of State says there are twenty eight thousand
votes or so that need curing. That means ballots that
need to be revised, that need to be validated, and
in some cases the voters need to be notified in
order for them to fix any issues.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
That arise with them.
Speaker 15 (17:46):
That process, plus the mail in ballo postmark by election
day but arriving until Saturday, November ninth, could significantly delay
when we learned the state's total results. Luciano CBS News, Las.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Vegas, Nevada.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
In Massachusetts, the senior Senator Elizabeth Warren declaring re election victory.
Wbz's Madison Rodgers with more projections.
Speaker 16 (18:10):
Say, it's going to be another six years in Washington
for Senator Elizabeth Warren.
Speaker 17 (18:14):
We have reminded people that government can be harnessed to
work not just for the wealthy and well connected, but
that week can actually make government work for the people.
Speaker 16 (18:28):
Senator took the stage as her campaign and local Democrats celebrate.
She outlined a top fight ahead and said in her
third term she prioritize things like bringing down the cost
of childcare and housing and restoring ropy wave protections. It
is still yet to be seen how en reached those goals.
Are the balance of power still teetering in Washington, Senator
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Warren telling the crowd it's going to be a long night,
maybe a long week, but no matter what happens.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
She's ready for the fight ahead.
Speaker 16 (18:56):
In the South End, I'm Madison Rogers, WVZ Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
On Tremont Street this evening, Warren's Republican challenger, John Deaton
concedes alongside his supporters wbz's Mike Macklin with Moore.
Speaker 18 (19:08):
Look, I'm disappointing the results.
Speaker 13 (19:10):
I'm a competitive guy.
Speaker 19 (19:12):
John Deeton conceded defeat in his long shot bid to
unseen Senator Elizabeth Warren and told his supporters he has
no regrets despite the outcome.
Speaker 18 (19:22):
I'm proud of my campaign and how it was run
from this entire time. No lies, no name calling, just
trying to focus on policy.
Speaker 19 (19:32):
In a divisive campaign season. Deaton said he was determined
to stay positive.
Speaker 13 (19:37):
We show people.
Speaker 18 (19:38):
There's a difference between fighting against things and fighting four things,
fighting against people and fighting four people. I wish the
race was more competitive than it was, but you know,
something changes hard.
Speaker 19 (19:51):
Deeton said he remains committed to making the Republican Party
more competitive in Massachusetts and would not rule out another
bid for elective office.
Speaker 13 (20:00):
Change.
Speaker 18 (20:01):
It takes time, but we need change in this state.
Speaker 19 (20:05):
Mike Maclin, WBZ, Bospoon's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I got pon WBZ. We'll crunch the numbers on the
ballot questions in Massachusetts eleven thirty three as we check
traffic and weather together the super retailers of New England
all we'll drive traffic on the three is how are
we doing, Steve.
Speaker 20 (20:21):
Well, We're gonna look north to town where we've got
some trouble. On four ninety five. There's a northbound crash
after ninety three that's slowing things down. The right lane
is blocked there. Then more delays with work northbound at
mass af and southbound and andover at Very twenty eight
ninety three south of the work rout spot pond.
Speaker 13 (20:36):
No delay.
Speaker 20 (20:37):
Then the left lane is taken at Roosevelt Circle. That's
a speed limited ride one twenty eight north. You're gonna
reduce speed passing a set up in Linfield at Walnut
Street south of the town.
Speaker 13 (20:46):
No trouble.
Speaker 20 (20:47):
On the expressway Route twenty four north, you're gonna slow down.
There's a lane taken before Route one forty Route three north.
Two work zones with minor delays, first in Duxbury at
Route fourteen, then by Bergen Parkway four ninety five south,
construction in middle at Route twenty eight at the speed
limit getting by there a bit slower northbound work after
ninety five west of town on the pike work cruise
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both ways by the Charleton Service Plaza. Slow you down
on the westbound side four ninety five North slows for
work between the Pike and Route nine, then southbound and Berlin.
At Route sixty two and four ninety five south and Marlborough,
the ramp to two ninety is closed two ninety east.
Watch for a work crew by Route nine in Worcester.
Speaker 13 (21:23):
No delay.
Speaker 20 (21:24):
Quiet downtown the deck to connector in the Tobin look good.
Airport tunnels and the Pike. Checkout just fine. Steve Perez,
WBZ twenty four hour Traffic Network.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
All right, we've got pretty decent weather still around these parts.
Tomorrow or well, yeah, tomorrow, not later today yet, we're
gonna have temperatures in the mid to upper seventies and
we might set a record.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Complete coverage of campaign twenty twenty four continues now on
WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Another update here from the WBZ presidential election results headquarters,
New Mexico goes to come La Harris if she picks
up the five electoral votes in New Mexico and now
has one hundred and ninety two electoral votes compared to
two hundred and thirty for Donald Trump. To seventy is
the number needed for winning the White House. Will continue
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to follow these numbers as we head through the evening,
and we continue on with our coverage about the questions
in Massachusetts. And the thing is, there are all kinds
of questions about those questions, five ballot questions on the
ballot this year, and Nicole Davis has been watching things
and we're starting to get a feel for who thinks
they did what.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah, we're getting an idea. The big news in this report, Ben,
is that we have some movement on Question four. No
official concession yet, but now we have a statement from
the Yes on four campaign that says, quote, we understand
that we're concerns about the home grow provisions. Again, this
is the psychedelics question. I think go on in the
statement to say the concerns have likely led to the
question playing out the way it is. That being said, again,
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they have not conceded. They said they won't do so
till tomorrow, after all the ballots are counted. It now
we also just heard as well from the No on
four campaign they say, quote, today voters across Massachusetts came
together to reject the passage of Question four in recognition
of the negative impacts it would have. Right now, No
on four is winning fifty eight to forty two percent.
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Question one which would allow the legislature to be audited.
Yes on one still ups a steady seventy one to
twenty nine percent. It's been that way for about a
couple hours. Question three to allow ride share drivers to unionize.
Yes fifty three percent, No, forty seven percent. Question five
the question about the tip to employee minimum wage, about
fifty percent reporting ben No on five ups sixty five
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thirty five. And then our final question is a question
about schools and a well known tests.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Indeed, Nicole, it's all about the MCAST test that high
school graduations. Wz's Brooke McCarthy explains question two right now.
Speaker 21 (23:51):
It's something all tenth graders need to take to graduate
the Massachusetts Comprehensive Assessment System tests better known as MCASTS.
But on the ballot is question two, which would eliminate
MCAST as a high school graduation requirement. If Question two
does pass, students would still need to take the MCAST exams,
but they would no longer need to get a passing score. Instead,
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the over three hundred school districts across the state would
set their own criteria for graduation. This would make Massachusetts
one of just a handful of states without a common
graduation standard. Those in favor of question two say this
would give all students the opportunity to thrive and reach
their full potential because some don't get their diploma because
of it. Those against Question two argue it's unfair and
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it's not right to grant diplomas to kids that aren't
ready to graduate. Less than one percent of high school
seniors don't get their diploma because of the mcast Brooke
McCarthy WBZ, Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
As of right now, Yes On two remains up when
it comes to results, fifty nine to forty one percent.
Just over fifty percent of the votes have been reported.
Exit polls from ABC show democracy, the economy, and abortion
rights are top concerns among voters as the nation and
chooses its next president. ABC's with Johnson's at mar Lago,
where former President Trump is spending this election night.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
There are a lot of young men in the audience here.
I was at Madison Square Garden with that big rally there,
some twenty thousand people, and I spoke to a lot
of these young men and asked them what it was
about Donald Trump that appealed to them. Many of them
either weren't old enough to vote before, or maybe didn't
participate in politics in the past, but they were drawn
to him for a variety of reasons. Immigration and the
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economy were a big part of it. A lot of
these young men who feel like the middle class American
dream is difficult to achieve, difficult to reach, they felt
like they could connect with Trump and he was the
man who could help them get there.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
And former President Trump has already won the state of
Florida and its thirty electoral votes. Meantime, the Harris campaign
is convening at her alma mater, Howard University. Even though
the former president has a lead in the electoral college
and popular vote, the vice President is hoping her work
and swing states like Nevada will help to flip the
tide where voters are concerned about the economy.
Speaker 22 (26:02):
The Hairs campaign is well aware of all of those issues,
especially in Nevada. It's why she unveiled her housing plan
in that state. She knew that she had to hammer
home the issue of the economy and make clear that
that was going to be her top priority, that lowering
the cost of groceries was going to be at their
very first priority. When she gets into office, She always
said she would pass if elected, this big economic package
of bills to do just that. The question is whether
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that message got across.
Speaker 13 (26:26):
And was enough.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
That is ABC's Mary Bruce. Florida voters strike down a
ballot measure aimed at loosening that states strict limits on
reproductive rights.
Speaker 23 (26:34):
Florida voters have rejected an abortion rights amendment and are
keeping in place Governor Ron DeSantis's six week ban. The
initiative failed to get the sixty percent threshold required. The
measure faced an uphill battle in the deeply read state,
where former President Donald Trump, a Florida resident, said during
the campaign he would vote against the measure. About one
fourth of voters have said abortion policy was the single
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most important factor for their vote. That's according to AP
vote Cast, a sweeping survey of more than one hundred
and ten thousand voters nationwide.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I'm Haefendwani in New Hampshire. Voters deciding on the states
two congressional seats and the race for governor, and it
is a brand new governor coming in. We now know
who that brand new governor will be, Sherry'small.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
That's why I've been in the race for governor. It's
Republican Canada Kelly Aot who takes the win tonight, beating
Democrat Joyce Craig. Aot came into this race with widespread
name recognition as a former US Senator and former attorney general.
She also had the endorsement of Republican Governor Christan UNW Craig,
the former mayor of Manchester, the Granite State's largest city,
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posted on x that she was proud of the race
that they ran in said that she called Aot to
congratulate her. Now, Democrats are in the lead so far
in both congressional districts. We're waiting for both of these
races to be called by the AP, which should be
very soon. The race in New Hampshire's first congressional district
between incumbent Democrat Chris Pappis and Republican Russell Prescott. Pappis
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leading by eight points, and we are reading though, despite
the fact that the AP hasn't called it, we're reading
reports that Chris Pappis has declared victory tonight in the
race and that Russell Prescott conceded. Also, there is the
race in New hampshire second Congression congressional district that's between
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Democrat Maggie Goodlinder and Republican Louis Tang Williams Goodline. Good
Lander with an eleven point lead.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Ben all Right, thanks a lot, cherry, and most states
have closed their polls. Only Alaska and Hawaii have not,
and this election day is just about behind us. But
CBS's Nicole Skanga tells us today's voting was not without
a few scanners.
Speaker 17 (28:52):
Officials and at least two states made in Georgia say
police have responded to threats against schools and polling places today,
none of them credible. Brad Raffensberger, the Georgia Secretary of State,
saying in a news conference that officials had identified the
source that it was from Russia. The FBI also putting
out a statement indicating many of the threats appear to
originate from Russian email to.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Mean maintime officials say the US Capital Visitors Center was
closed this afternoon after a man tried to get into
that building with a torch and a flare gun. Former
President Donald Trump is trying to do something that has
not been done since the late eighteen hundreds become president
for a second non consecutive term, the last and only
person to do it.
Speaker 12 (29:33):
Dear, this is your old pal, Grover.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Our old pal, Grover Cleveland turned the trick. He was
elected as the twenty second president, served from eighteen eighty
five to eighteen eighty nine, and, after being defeated by
Benjamin Harrison, won the presidency again as the twenty fourth
president and served from eighteen ninety three to eighteen ninety seven.
Cleveland's loss in eighteen eighty eight featured him winning the
popular vote but losing with fewer electoral votes. By the way,
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Grover Cleveland the only president married in the White House.
He married Francis Fulsom in June of eighteen eighty six.
Stay with WBZ, We'll continue to follow developments on this
election night. We've got Jim McKay coming up at midnight
with more of the results from all across the country.
I'm Ben Parker.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Our election night coverage continues now with night Side with
Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 14 (30:26):
Well, I'm delighted to be joined as our final guest
tonight here on the Night Side portion of the special
twenty twenty four presidential election program by Emerson College poster
Spencer Kimball. Spencer welcome back, Thanks so much for being
with us for a few minutes. To end my evening here,
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I have to say that I'm following this race very
closely and I'm particularly watching Iowa, and I know you
don't want to talk about it, but I just want
to say congratulations.
Speaker 13 (31:03):
You called Iowa.
Speaker 14 (31:05):
Over the weekend, the Des Moines Register had a poll
which suggested that perhaps Kamala Harris was in the lead
of Iowa, and it was a shock poll. You had
a poll over the weekend which has hit the final
number in Iowa right on the button, fifty five to
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forty five approximately.
Speaker 13 (31:30):
You're not going to take a victory lap.
Speaker 14 (31:31):
I know you too well, but I got to tell
you you must feel pretty good because there were a
lot of people who were looking at that Des Moines
Register poll a little more closely than they were looking
at your polling in the state of Iowa.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Well, then, it's always pleasure to be with you, and
thanks for the coverage this evening. It was a good
experiment in different methods in survey research, and that's what
in our world. We had a chance last week to
talk methodology, where each polster comes up with new methods
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of how to collect data and how to analyze data.
And Ann Seltzer is a great polster out of Iowa,
and she's had a traditional method of collecting data using
live operators, using different techniques that have been very beneficial.
But as technology and communication has advanced, so to have
our methods. And I think it demonstrated that in the
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twenty first century of polling that some of those traditional
methods which are still successful, can also be you know,
new methods can be utilized that are also successful. And
I think that Iowa demonstrated that.
Speaker 14 (32:39):
Now I had my eye on Iowa tonight, I assume
you did as well.
Speaker 13 (32:43):
But you're very gracious in your comments tonight.
Speaker 14 (32:47):
So I'm going to move on here and tell you
that I kept a particular look for it because I
take some pride in the hometown team and you and
a friend Dave Paleologus and John Zogby as well are
the three poles is where I rely upon. So thank
you for being available tonight.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
We well, we lived up to the expectation there.
Speaker 13 (33:08):
You sure did you sure did?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Uh.
Speaker 14 (33:10):
You've also lived up to the expectation tonight. I think
this race is going very much in the way that
that many thought. But what I mean, it looks to
me as if Donald Trump is going to be the
president elect, if not tonight, sometime in the next day
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or so. Am I reading that?
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Yeah? No, no, no, I think we've seen enough in
the in the data here, certainly in the voting, that
he has outperformed the polls once again. Now you know,
we've been pretty good with him. We had him winning
these states, but he's winning them by two to three
points higher, which is still, you know, a pretty good polling,
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but that's his tradition. Now he's got some big What
we've seen is not just in the swing states, and
you know those are the most competitive because that's where
Harris spent you know, billions of dollars in advertising, but
in these other states, like look at New Jersey, what
are we at four or five points in Jersey? Minnesota
two three points, so Virginia that's been sitting. So these
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are states that the Democrats were at ten points. And
while Trump may not win these states as we come
back from this election, while there's a lot more things
in play, and it looks as if the electorate has
made a real shift in how they're going to vote
in the future, and look at like the state of Florida.
That state doesn't look to be in play at all
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for the Democrats in the future. That could become a
problem for them as the electorate shrinks. And it's amazing
to think where we were just eight years ago when
Trump won that first election, not winning the popular vote.
He might win the popular vote as well tonight when
you start looking at California hasn't come in. Yeah, that's
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a good point, but I think he I think he
could walk out with the popular vote.
Speaker 14 (35:10):
It's stunning to think of this. This this this political resurrection.
I mean when you think of where he was in
twenty twenty one, after the disgraceful events of January sixth,
twenty twenty one, and the indictments, all of that, and
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everything was on the line for him tonight.
Speaker 13 (35:35):
I had I spoke with Tom.
Speaker 14 (35:36):
O'Neill earlier this hour, and he was trying to figure
out I was trying to figure out what is the
message that somehow Donald Trump.
Speaker 13 (35:45):
Was able to deliver this.
Speaker 14 (35:46):
This is almost a realignment election in terms.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Of we're different.
Speaker 13 (35:52):
Yeah, so tell it. You can. You can explain that
better than I can.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Go ahead, please, well, the working class is becoming Republicans
and the upper class is becoming Democrats. And the problem
that the Republicans had a few years ago coming out
of the Bush years, where that they were the upper
class and the Democrats were the working class, and that
change of what's happening in real time. But you know,
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it's happening as you watch these returns in Michigan, in Minnesota,
and you know, I think we saw it in real
time back in twenty sixteen in Ohio. When we think
of that blue wall of Pennsylvania to Minnesota, we're forgetting
that Ohio used to be a swing state. That's not
you know, that's a I think we had it at
twelve points tonight, maybe ten points. That's no longer in play.
Speaker 13 (36:37):
And the Republicans also also won a took a senencee to.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Way packed up the Senate YEP, and they're going to
do the same thing out in Montana. So the question
is can the Democrats at this point hold the House?
Otherwise the Republicans could potentially walk out with all three
chambers and have a lot of power for the next
two years.
Speaker 14 (36:56):
So what is the message that that Trump Wasn't it
as simple as she broke it, I'll fix it. I mean,
that was what he came down to at the end.
She broke it, I'll fix it.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
No, no, no, no, it goes further back, goes back
to NaSTA. He's back into the UH, into the into that,
to that trade agreement where there's still a lot of
you know, yeah, yeah, no, that's deep rooted, but you
know he's part of that where hey, that was a mistake.
People agree with it. And I think you saw Vance
almost get it to a full boil during that vice
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presidential debate with Walls, where Walls ended up agreeing with
them because you know, they were talking about experts and experts,
and it got Walls twisted up on that argument. So
that's where Trump has been able to make inroads with
that union vote, the working class, and younger voters. So
that I think the other concern.
Speaker 14 (37:47):
Yeah, do you think it would have made a difference
if Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris had picked Governor Shapiro of
Pennsylvania or do you think this.
Speaker 13 (37:57):
Was this was baked in the cake.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
No.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
I think that would have been one event that could
have helped. I think there was a series of mistakes
that were made on the Harris side and the communication
front that opened up or didn't know off enough opportunities
for the campaign, and she had to play for that,
including not accepting many debates when she initially entered into
the race. And because of that, the whole campaign kind
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of falls flat in October because there's no events, there's
no you know, focusing events to get the country looking
at something. And with that said, Trump was in a
strong spot. There's a reason why Joe Biden President Biden
was he dropped from the race because he thought he
wasn't gonna win.
Speaker 14 (38:44):
Spencer, you you, you and and Dave Paleologus and and
John Zogby are the best, simply the best, the three
of you.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Thanks so much, my friend Dan, thank you so much
for having me.
Speaker 14 (38:59):
Any time, anytime we will we'll do We'll do a
postmarting on this sometime in the next week or so.
Thanks so much. Spencer Kimball Emerson College poster. Extraordinary, extraordinary.
That is it for me. But please stay with WBZ.
We got great coverage into the early morning hours. This
race is not officially over yet. Stay with us.
And your complete coverage of campaign twenty twenty four is
(00:02):
right here on Boston's news station WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Lots of things to vote on today. On election day
in Massachusetts, voters were asked a few questions at the
ballot box ballid questions, five of them. Wbz's Nicole Davis
has been keeping an eye on the results. Slow to
get the results in, I guess, but you want to
get them right, of course.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Well, of course, absolutely every vote counts, and we are
getting these results slowly but surely. And as for question one,
the question about auditing the legislature, Yes on one, since
we first started getting these results around eight o'clock has
had a pretty healthy lead, with thirty three percent of
the results in it stays that way seventy one to
twenty nine percent. Question two, which is all about getting
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rid of the mcast graduation requirement, with about thirty two
percent in yes on two, still steady up sixty to
forty percent. Question three, if passed, would allow rod share
drivers to unionize here in the Bay State. About thirty
three percent of that vote in yes on three, still
ahead fifty three to forty seven percent. Question five, the
question about raising the minimum wage for tipped employees.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
No.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
On five, still on top here, sixty five to thirty
five percent. And then then we've got another question all
about mental health treatment.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
That is right, Nicole.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Question four is all about the ability to grow and
use certain psychedelics. Wbz's Jared Brosnan as more on that.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
Question four asks voters to consider the legalization of naturally
occurring psychedelic drugs like DMT, mescalin, and psilocybin aka what's
found in magic mushrooms. If passed, anyone over twenty one
years old can grow, share, or use psychedelics at home
as long as they stay.
Speaker 7 (01:35):
Below the legal threshold for each substance.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
But outside of growing them yourself, the only way to
get the substances is through licensed professionals, so it wouldn't
be as easy as going to a dispensary for marijuana
or a liquor store for alcohol. Those against legalization point
to the potential health risks from adverse reactions to the
drugs and say they're unsure how the state can regulate
at home use. They also worry about a lack of
a breathalyzer type device that can instantly detect whether someone's
under the influence. Those in favors say so phichadelics psilocybin
(02:01):
in particular, can help treat things like post traumatic stress
disorder and anxiety. They also argue that expensive treatment costs
would mitigate any rampant recreational use. Jared Brosnan WBZ Boston's
News Radio and.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
When it comes to question four for a bit, the
race was pretty much fifty to fifty, but with thirty
one percent reporting now no votes arranging out fifty seven
to forty three percent. Marijuana has also been a top
issue in a lot of states this election day. Massachusetts
legalized recreational pot in twenty sixteen. This year, voters in
Florida rejected a ballid measure to legalize recreational marijuana in
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their state. In the Dakotas, voters had similar measures. Those
tallies still too close to call. Nebraska is voting on
whether or not to legalize medical cannabis. Nebraska one of
just six states where marijuana is still completely outlawed, even
in medical settings. Twenty four states and the District of
Columbia have already legalized recreational pot. Republican Kelly Ayo taking
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the governor's race in New Hampshire. Today the WDBZ Sherry
Small is here with the latest art man.
Speaker 8 (03:01):
With that win, next year New Hampshire, we'll have his
third woman governor in the state's history, former US Senator
Kelly Ayot defeating former Manchester Mayor Democrat Joyce Craig. Now,
this was one of the most competitive gubernatorial races in
the country. Addressing supporters in Salem, Ayot called her win
a victory for an even brighter future for the greatest
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state in the nation. Craig posting on exit, she was
proud of the race that they ran, and said she
called aot and wished her luck. Now, as far as
the two congressional districts go, District one incumbent Democrat Chris
pappiz with the seven point lead over Republican Russell Prescott
House District two, Democrat Maggie Goodlander has a solid eleven
(03:45):
point lead over Republican Lily Tang Williams. The AP, though
has not yet called either of those races been.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
All right then Vermont Republican Governor Phil Scott he won
reelection to his fifth two year term. Democrat Josh Stein
wins the North Carolin a lot of Google to Torto race.
He beat Republican incombent Mark Robinson, whose campaign was dragged
into the national limelfe about reports of controversial comments he
allegedly made in the past. Governor Lex Stein thanking his
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supporters after the race was called.
Speaker 9 (04:14):
We chose hope over hates, competence over chaos, decency over division.
That's who we are as North Carolinians.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Meantime, the presidential race in North Carolina is still too
close to call, though it is leaning toward former President
Donald Trump's favor. And we want to give you another
update on the presidential race numbers. Kabla Harris has won
Washington state. We told you earlier she had also won
her home state of California, Donald Trump winning Idaho, and
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so as it sits right now, Kanala Harris has won
twelve states, one district in Maine as well as the
district of Columbia, while Donald Trump has twenty two states
under his belt and one district Nebraska. The election results
in terms of the electoral vote count, former President Trump
with two hundred and fourteen, vice President Kamala Harris sitting
at one hundred and seventy nine. Well all across the nation,
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Voters are keeping an eye on the balance of power
in Congress. More and more votes are being counted in
wbz's Emma Friedman is here with the latest on those votes.
Speaker 10 (05:19):
Emma Ben Democrats are facing strong headwinds to defend their
narrow fifty one to forty nine majority. There's still thirteen
races to be called. The GOP has gained one seat
in West Virginia, with Jim Justice that seat replacing Senator
Joe Manchin. Ohio is still counting the votes as of now,
Republican Bernie and Marino is leading with eighty five percent
(05:40):
of the votes counted. If he wins, that would flip
the seat long held by Democrat Chared Brown. Meantime, Vermont's
Bernie Sanders, Connecticut's Chris Murphy, and Rhode Islands Sheldon Whitehouse
all held on to their Senate seat. We're going to
keep you up to date here with Waldswall election coverage.
Ben back to you all right.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
And in Maryland, Democrat Angela also Brooks has projected to
win the Senate race there. Also, Brooks spoke about her opponent,
former Governor Larry Hogan, after the race was called.
Speaker 11 (06:07):
I received a call from Governor Hogan congratulating me on
tonight's victory, offering his congratulations and the congratulations of you.
Me and I know that we both share a very
deep love from Maryland and commitment to Maryland, so I
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certainly want to thank him so much for his service.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Also, Brooks will be the first black woman to represent
Maryland in the US Senate, Richard Neil holding off his
challenger for the Massachusetts first Congressional district. There were three
other races with challengers, but five of the congress Members
of Congress from Massachusetts were unopposed this time around, Jay Cochincloss,
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Seth Moulten, and Catherine Clark among them. In Connecticut, Senator
Chris Murphy won re election to a third term. Voting
is a right, whether you've been casting ballots for decades
or this is your first time going to the polls.
WBC's Aile Shaffle catching up with all of the above.
Speaker 12 (07:07):
For Julia Mitchell, this election day is different from every other.
This first time in my life, I vote. I'm sixty
going on sixty seven. After decades on the political sideline,
She's decided to vote on this one. Julia wasn't Donald
Trump's camp during his presidency, but his behavior in the
last days of the campaign trails motivated her to cast
a ballot against him.
Speaker 10 (07:25):
A president shouldn't make derogatory, you know, remarks about anybody.
Speaker 12 (07:31):
Plenty of voters here at a West Roxbury polling station
tell me the act of voting is a sacred right
and duty. It's all the more powerful for Brandon, who
is stripped from the voter rules in Texas nearly a
dozen times before coming here. It's meant a lot to
me to be able to just come down here and
just vote. And the power of the vote reaches across
the aisle for this Trump voter too.
Speaker 13 (07:48):
No, I always want I think it's the right thing
to do.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
Obviously, a lot of people fought in this country to
be able to vote.
Speaker 12 (07:53):
So Kyle Schaffel w BS Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
More of the votes are being counted, a couple more
states still need to close their poll We'll keep you
up the date here on WBZ throughout the evening, the
overnight hours, and of course join us tomorrow morning.
Speaker 13 (08:06):
First thing.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Jeff Brown will be here with all of the information
you need to start your day and trafficing weather together
as well. I'm Ben Parker.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Night side with Dan Ray Election Night in America WBZ,
Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 14 (08:24):
I'm delighted to welcome back to our microphone someone who's
become a regular guest on all of these big election nights,
Former Lieutenant Governor Calmwealth of Massachusetts.
Speaker 13 (08:34):
Tom O'Neil, the third and the.
Speaker 14 (08:37):
Namesake son of I think the greatest House speaker in history,
Former House Speaker Tom Tip O'Neil. Tom O'Neil, welcome back
to night's side. I know this is not a great
night for your party, but i'd love to get your
reaction to it as it is evolving. It's not over
until the Fat Lady sings, as they say, but here
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a warming up.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
I thought it would be a better Nightdea, and it's
turning out to be. We needed to do better in
states like New Hampshire in Virginia than we've done, although
we probably will win both of those states. Then we
needed to go south and do better in North Carolina
and Georgia. And Kamala Harris is just not doing as
(09:23):
well as Joe Biden did four years ago, and she
may well lose both of those states. And though it
leaves US. Then it leads us to the Blue Wall
states of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan, and we need a
minor miracle to win those states. And if she does,
and she becomes an ex president of the United States,
if Donald Trump continues to lead in Wisconsin as he
(09:44):
has been, then we've got a problem. And tomorrow will
be a different day, and then ex president will be
the fortynth President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
Speaker 14 (09:54):
So I guess there's no one who I know who's
more experienced politically than you, because obviously you learned, you know,
at your father's.
Speaker 13 (10:05):
Me literally growing up. How can you I never thought.
Speaker 14 (10:10):
That after January sixth, Donald Trump would be able, after
all that he has gone through and you know, impeachments, indictments,
could ever get back to this point. I thought he
could cobble together the nomination. But I've never seen a
I know that America loves comebacks, but I've never seen
a political comeback of this magnitude. If indeed he does
(10:34):
prevail tonight.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
If he does, and and add to that, Dan his
rhetoric over the last two weeks, yeah, yeah, he's an
off message. He's not he's not targeted at his own
his own his own target and base groups. We all
as political strategies really can't understand how he's done as
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well tonight and today as he has done. I think
the better news side of the story is we may
well lose the Senate, but it looks like we're going
to go back and win the House of Representatives of
the US Congress.
Speaker 14 (11:09):
I haven't I haven't thought that I had seth molten
on and I asked him about last hour, and I
know it's it's very close.
Speaker 13 (11:15):
I think that.
Speaker 14 (11:17):
Sharon Brown has just lost Ohio to the Republican candidate.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
They called it. And it looks like John Testa might
lose in Montana, which would lose, which would leave us
for a two seat deficit in the US Senate. But
it looks as well that we might pick up five
or six seats in the US House and it will
give us some macharity in the House. And and that's
great news for balance, you know, balance and in the
in the in the Congress and the edit policy creation.
Speaker 14 (11:46):
I think most people like to have that that sort
of balance. So let me ask you, uh, I guess
a tougher question. Does the leadership well First of first
of all, does the leadership of the Democratic Party. I'm
talking Chuck Schumer and uh, you know Nancy Pelosi who
no longer is the speaker. But do they have to
(12:06):
at this point give way to new new leadership, you
know within the Democratic Party, people like Seth Moulton and
others who may maybe more in the following the Tip
O'Neill Democrats. I mean, I kind of imagine that your
father would have allowed Union leaders like Sean O'Brien and
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others to walk away from the Democratic Party in the
presidential life.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
I do think, Dan, that we have to come back
and reassess what it is Donald Trump, what he's talking to,
what is his base, what are they listening to? What
is it they want? We want delivering for them. The
fact of the matter is, I am I've always considered
myself a progressive. Yeah, by today's by today's logic, I'd
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be a moderate if I were in the US Congress.
It does some order it and I just think we
have to reassess where the Democratic has been going and
where it needs to reside in order to win the
middle class back where it needs to win. America's honted
back and where those issues that we have traditionally been
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but apparently have lust and you know we've got we've
got the mind and we've got the body. Well we
need is we need to recapture the soul of what's
going on in America.
Speaker 14 (13:28):
That's well said, well said. So my other question, and
again I know that you know the president have known
the president for a long time. I wonder if he
is tonight thinking to himself if I wasn't forced out
or maybe you accept that, maybe you don't, but I
think he was kind of forced out that he can
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look back and say, hey, I was I passed in
twenty sixteen. I beat this guy in twenty in twenty twenty,
and I could have beaten him again tonight. Do you
think regrets within the Biden family?
Speaker 5 (14:02):
I think with you know, he's a human being, So
I'm sure he's thinking about if it were me, could
I have done better than Kamala. The fact of the
matter is, I don't know that that would have been
the case. I think she turned out to be a
very good candidate. I think the people around her gave
her a very strong, strategic kind of target, and I
(14:23):
think their campaign was right on. That's really the reason
I'm saying to myself, I think we need to go
back and reassess where it is we've been as a
democratic body. Who the hell are we talking to, and
how do we get back to representing you know that
that that that middle class that we have traditionally represented,
and bring it forward so that we can move America ahead.
Speaker 13 (14:44):
Well, it looked to me, you.
Speaker 14 (14:45):
Know, from Afar, that that there was some natural constituencies
which were disappointed. I think that a lot of uh,
you know, Jewish voters probably migrated to Trump, and I think, ironically,
at the same time, there were Muslim voters who migrated
to Trump simultaneously. I don't know how he did that,
but I think that's what the statistics will show.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I think you're right, and I think we have to
figure out how he did to that and what they
heard that we didn't understand, to be perfectly honest with you,
because how a Jewish community can get behind Trump simply
because he moved a capital or an embassy in Israel
is extraordinarily beyond me. When the Democratic body has always
(15:30):
been the hot of the Israeli state and the Jewish
community and has viewed them as our greatest ally.
Speaker 14 (15:38):
From Harry Truman, who was the first area coming leader
of any country. Tom O'Neill is always I thank you
for staying up late. I wish for you. The results
were a little bit different.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
It's not over yet, but we need me a miracle,
but maybe we'll get it. If we don't, we're going
to stay back and we're going to continue the good fight. Dan,
thanks a minute.
Speaker 13 (15:59):
Thank you so much. Tom, who're talking to Okay, see
you soon. Goodnight.
Speaker 14 (16:03):
All right, we have one other guest coming up, Spencer
Kimball Polster who called Iowa correctly. He'll be with us
in the next half hour. Stay with WBZ throughout the night.
We'll give you the best coverage all the way till
morning's early light.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Campaign twenty twenty four America votes. This is WBZ Boston's news.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Radio, sixty one degrees in Boston at eleven thirty. Good evening,
I'm Ben Parker. Here's what's happening. Some more states called
in the presidential race for Vice president Kamala Harris. She
has won thirteen states plus one district in Maine. In
(16:44):
the District of Columbia, the latest state to go for
Kamala Harris, Oregon. She now has one hundred and eighty
seven electoral votes, while former President Donald Trump has now
won twenty three states, along with one district in Nebraska. Carolina,
which was a battleground state and both candidates that spent
a lot of time in goes to former President Trump.
(17:07):
He now has two hundred and thirty electoral votes of
the two hundred and seventy needed to win the White House.
Polls have closed in most of the states across the
country now except for Alaska and Hawaii. Election results slowly
but surely pouring in from every milk and cranny of
the country except one. It'll be quite some time before
we know which presidential candidate won the key swing state
(17:29):
of Nevada.
Speaker 15 (17:29):
The Secretary of State says there are twenty eight thousand
votes or so that need curing. That means ballots that
need to be revised, that need to be validated, and
in some cases the voters need to be notified in
order for them to fix any issues.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
That arise with them.
Speaker 15 (17:46):
That process, plus the mail in ballo postmark by election
day but arriving until Saturday, November ninth, could significantly delay
when we learned the state's total results. Luciano CBS News, Las.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Vegas, Nevada.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
In Massachusetts, the senior Senator Elizabeth Warren declaring re election victory.
Wbz's Madison Rodgers with more projections.
Speaker 16 (18:10):
Say, it's going to be another six years in Washington
for Senator Elizabeth Warren.
Speaker 17 (18:14):
We have reminded people that government can be harnessed to
work not just for the wealthy and well connected, but
that week can actually make government work for the people.
Speaker 16 (18:28):
Senator took the stage as her campaign and local Democrats celebrate.
She outlined a top fight ahead and said in her
third term she prioritize things like bringing down the cost
of childcare and housing and restoring ropy wave protections. It
is still yet to be seen how en reached those goals.
Are the balance of power still teetering in Washington, Senator
(18:48):
Warren telling the crowd it's going to be a long night,
maybe a long week, but no matter what happens.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
She's ready for the fight ahead.
Speaker 16 (18:56):
In the South End, I'm Madison Rogers, WVZ Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
On Tremont Street this evening, Warren's Republican challenger, John Deaton
concedes alongside his supporters wbz's Mike Macklin with Moore.
Speaker 18 (19:08):
Look, I'm disappointing the results.
Speaker 13 (19:10):
I'm a competitive guy.
Speaker 19 (19:12):
John Deeton conceded defeat in his long shot bid to
unseen Senator Elizabeth Warren and told his supporters he has
no regrets despite the outcome.
Speaker 18 (19:22):
I'm proud of my campaign and how it was run
from this entire time. No lies, no name calling, just
trying to focus on policy.
Speaker 19 (19:32):
In a divisive campaign season. Deaton said he was determined
to stay positive.
Speaker 13 (19:37):
We show people.
Speaker 18 (19:38):
There's a difference between fighting against things and fighting four things,
fighting against people and fighting four people. I wish the
race was more competitive than it was, but you know,
something changes hard.
Speaker 19 (19:51):
Deeton said he remains committed to making the Republican Party
more competitive in Massachusetts and would not rule out another
bid for elective office.
Speaker 13 (20:00):
Change.
Speaker 18 (20:01):
It takes time, but we need change in this state.
Speaker 19 (20:05):
Mike Maclin, WBZ, Bospoon's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I got pon WBZ. We'll crunch the numbers on the
ballot questions in Massachusetts eleven thirty three as we check
traffic and weather together the super retailers of New England
all we'll drive traffic on the three is how are
we doing, Steve.
Speaker 20 (20:21):
Well, We're gonna look north to town where we've got
some trouble. On four ninety five. There's a northbound crash
after ninety three that's slowing things down. The right lane
is blocked there. Then more delays with work northbound at
mass af and southbound and andover at Very twenty eight
ninety three south of the work rout spot pond.
Speaker 13 (20:36):
No delay.
Speaker 20 (20:37):
Then the left lane is taken at Roosevelt Circle. That's
a speed limited ride one twenty eight north. You're gonna
reduce speed passing a set up in Linfield at Walnut
Street south of the town.
Speaker 13 (20:46):
No trouble.
Speaker 20 (20:47):
On the expressway Route twenty four north, you're gonna slow down.
There's a lane taken before Route one forty Route three north.
Two work zones with minor delays, first in Duxbury at
Route fourteen, then by Bergen Parkway four ninety five south,
construction in middle at Route twenty eight at the speed
limit getting by there a bit slower northbound work after
ninety five west of town on the pike work cruise
(21:07):
both ways by the Charleton Service Plaza. Slow you down
on the westbound side four ninety five North slows for
work between the Pike and Route nine, then southbound and Berlin.
At Route sixty two and four ninety five south and Marlborough,
the ramp to two ninety is closed two ninety east.
Watch for a work crew by Route nine in Worcester.
Speaker 13 (21:23):
No delay.
Speaker 20 (21:24):
Quiet downtown the deck to connector in the Tobin look good.
Airport tunnels and the Pike. Checkout just fine. Steve Perez,
WBZ twenty four hour Traffic Network.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
All right, we've got pretty decent weather still around these parts.
Tomorrow or well, yeah, tomorrow, not later today yet, we're
gonna have temperatures in the mid to upper seventies and
we might set a record.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Complete coverage of campaign twenty twenty four continues now on
WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Another update here from the WBZ presidential election results headquarters,
New Mexico goes to come La Harris if she picks
up the five electoral votes in New Mexico and now
has one hundred and ninety two electoral votes compared to
two hundred and thirty for Donald Trump. To seventy is
the number needed for winning the White House. Will continue
(22:13):
to follow these numbers as we head through the evening,
and we continue on with our coverage about the questions
in Massachusetts. And the thing is, there are all kinds
of questions about those questions, five ballot questions on the
ballot this year, and Nicole Davis has been watching things
and we're starting to get a feel for who thinks
they did what.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah, we're getting an idea. The big news in this report, Ben,
is that we have some movement on Question four. No
official concession yet, but now we have a statement from
the Yes on four campaign that says, quote, we understand
that we're concerns about the home grow provisions. Again, this
is the psychedelics question. I think go on in the
statement to say the concerns have likely led to the
question playing out the way it is. That being said, again,
(22:55):
they have not conceded. They said they won't do so
till tomorrow, after all the ballots are counted. It now
we also just heard as well from the No on
four campaign they say, quote, today voters across Massachusetts came
together to reject the passage of Question four in recognition
of the negative impacts it would have. Right now, No
on four is winning fifty eight to forty two percent.
(23:16):
Question one which would allow the legislature to be audited.
Yes on one still ups a steady seventy one to
twenty nine percent. It's been that way for about a
couple hours. Question three to allow ride share drivers to unionize.
Yes fifty three percent, No, forty seven percent. Question five
the question about the tip to employee minimum wage, about
fifty percent reporting ben No on five ups sixty five
(23:37):
thirty five. And then our final question is a question
about schools and a well known tests.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Indeed, Nicole, it's all about the MCAST test that high
school graduations. Wz's Brooke McCarthy explains question two right now.
Speaker 21 (23:51):
It's something all tenth graders need to take to graduate
the Massachusetts Comprehensive Assessment System tests better known as MCASTS.
But on the ballot is question two, which would eliminate
MCAST as a high school graduation requirement. If Question two
does pass, students would still need to take the MCAST exams,
but they would no longer need to get a passing score. Instead,
(24:11):
the over three hundred school districts across the state would
set their own criteria for graduation. This would make Massachusetts
one of just a handful of states without a common
graduation standard. Those in favor of question two say this
would give all students the opportunity to thrive and reach
their full potential because some don't get their diploma because
of it. Those against Question two argue it's unfair and
(24:33):
it's not right to grant diplomas to kids that aren't
ready to graduate. Less than one percent of high school
seniors don't get their diploma because of the mcast Brooke
McCarthy WBZ, Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
As of right now, Yes On two remains up when
it comes to results, fifty nine to forty one percent.
Just over fifty percent of the votes have been reported.
Exit polls from ABC show democracy, the economy, and abortion
rights are top concerns among voters as the nation and
chooses its next president. ABC's with Johnson's at mar Lago,
where former President Trump is spending this election night.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
There are a lot of young men in the audience here.
I was at Madison Square Garden with that big rally there,
some twenty thousand people, and I spoke to a lot
of these young men and asked them what it was
about Donald Trump that appealed to them. Many of them
either weren't old enough to vote before, or maybe didn't
participate in politics in the past, but they were drawn
to him for a variety of reasons. Immigration and the
(25:27):
economy were a big part of it. A lot of
these young men who feel like the middle class American
dream is difficult to achieve, difficult to reach, they felt
like they could connect with Trump and he was the
man who could help them get there.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
And former President Trump has already won the state of
Florida and its thirty electoral votes. Meantime, the Harris campaign
is convening at her alma mater, Howard University. Even though
the former president has a lead in the electoral college
and popular vote, the vice President is hoping her work
and swing states like Nevada will help to flip the
tide where voters are concerned about the economy.
Speaker 22 (26:02):
The Hairs campaign is well aware of all of those issues,
especially in Nevada. It's why she unveiled her housing plan
in that state. She knew that she had to hammer
home the issue of the economy and make clear that
that was going to be her top priority, that lowering
the cost of groceries was going to be at their
very first priority. When she gets into office, She always
said she would pass if elected, this big economic package
of bills to do just that. The question is whether
(26:25):
that message got across.
Speaker 13 (26:26):
And was enough.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
That is ABC's Mary Bruce. Florida voters strike down a
ballot measure aimed at loosening that states strict limits on
reproductive rights.
Speaker 23 (26:34):
Florida voters have rejected an abortion rights amendment and are
keeping in place Governor Ron DeSantis's six week ban. The
initiative failed to get the sixty percent threshold required. The
measure faced an uphill battle in the deeply read state,
where former President Donald Trump, a Florida resident, said during
the campaign he would vote against the measure. About one
fourth of voters have said abortion policy was the single
(26:56):
most important factor for their vote. That's according to AP
vote Cast, a sweeping survey of more than one hundred
and ten thousand voters nationwide.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I'm Haefendwani in New Hampshire. Voters deciding on the states
two congressional seats and the race for governor, and it
is a brand new governor coming in. We now know
who that brand new governor will be, Sherry'small.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
That's why I've been in the race for governor. It's
Republican Canada Kelly Aot who takes the win tonight, beating
Democrat Joyce Craig. Aot came into this race with widespread
name recognition as a former US Senator and former attorney general.
She also had the endorsement of Republican Governor Christan UNW Craig,
the former mayor of Manchester, the Granite State's largest city,
(27:44):
posted on x that she was proud of the race
that they ran in said that she called Aot to
congratulate her. Now, Democrats are in the lead so far
in both congressional districts. We're waiting for both of these
races to be called by the AP, which should be
very soon. The race in New Hampshire's first congressional district
between incumbent Democrat Chris Pappis and Republican Russell Prescott. Pappis
(28:10):
leading by eight points, and we are reading though, despite
the fact that the AP hasn't called it, we're reading
reports that Chris Pappis has declared victory tonight in the
race and that Russell Prescott conceded. Also, there is the
race in New hampshire second Congression congressional district that's between
(28:33):
Democrat Maggie Goodlinder and Republican Louis Tang Williams Goodline. Good
Lander with an eleven point lead.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Ben all Right, thanks a lot, cherry, and most states
have closed their polls. Only Alaska and Hawaii have not,
and this election day is just about behind us. But
CBS's Nicole Skanga tells us today's voting was not without
a few scanners.
Speaker 17 (28:52):
Officials and at least two states made in Georgia say
police have responded to threats against schools and polling places today,
none of them credible. Brad Raffensberger, the Georgia Secretary of State,
saying in a news conference that officials had identified the
source that it was from Russia. The FBI also putting
out a statement indicating many of the threats appear to
originate from Russian email to.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Mean maintime officials say the US Capital Visitors Center was
closed this afternoon after a man tried to get into
that building with a torch and a flare gun. Former
President Donald Trump is trying to do something that has
not been done since the late eighteen hundreds become president
for a second non consecutive term, the last and only
person to do it.
Speaker 12 (29:33):
Dear, this is your old pal, Grover.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Our old pal, Grover Cleveland turned the trick. He was
elected as the twenty second president, served from eighteen eighty
five to eighteen eighty nine, and, after being defeated by
Benjamin Harrison, won the presidency again as the twenty fourth
president and served from eighteen ninety three to eighteen ninety seven.
Cleveland's loss in eighteen eighty eight featured him winning the
popular vote but losing with fewer electoral votes. By the way,
(29:59):
Grover Cleveland the only president married in the White House.
He married Francis Fulsom in June of eighteen eighty six.
Stay with WBZ, We'll continue to follow developments on this
election night. We've got Jim McKay coming up at midnight
with more of the results from all across the country.
I'm Ben Parker.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Our election night coverage continues now with night Side with
Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 14 (30:26):
Well, I'm delighted to be joined as our final guest
tonight here on the Night Side portion of the special
twenty twenty four presidential election program by Emerson College poster
Spencer Kimball. Spencer welcome back, Thanks so much for being
with us for a few minutes. To end my evening here,
(30:49):
I have to say that I'm following this race very
closely and I'm particularly watching Iowa, and I know you
don't want to talk about it, but I just want
to say congratulations.
Speaker 13 (31:03):
You called Iowa.
Speaker 14 (31:05):
Over the weekend, the Des Moines Register had a poll
which suggested that perhaps Kamala Harris was in the lead
of Iowa, and it was a shock poll. You had
a poll over the weekend which has hit the final
number in Iowa right on the button, fifty five to
(31:25):
forty five approximately.
Speaker 13 (31:30):
You're not going to take a victory lap.
Speaker 14 (31:31):
I know you too well, but I got to tell
you you must feel pretty good because there were a
lot of people who were looking at that Des Moines
Register poll a little more closely than they were looking
at your polling in the state of Iowa.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Well, then, it's always pleasure to be with you, and
thanks for the coverage this evening. It was a good
experiment in different methods in survey research, and that's what
in our world. We had a chance last week to
talk methodology, where each polster comes up with new methods
(32:04):
of how to collect data and how to analyze data.
And Ann Seltzer is a great polster out of Iowa,
and she's had a traditional method of collecting data using
live operators, using different techniques that have been very beneficial.
But as technology and communication has advanced, so to have
our methods. And I think it demonstrated that in the
(32:25):
twenty first century of polling that some of those traditional
methods which are still successful, can also be you know,
new methods can be utilized that are also successful. And
I think that Iowa demonstrated that.
Speaker 14 (32:39):
Now I had my eye on Iowa tonight, I assume
you did as well.
Speaker 13 (32:43):
But you're very gracious in your comments tonight.
Speaker 14 (32:47):
So I'm going to move on here and tell you
that I kept a particular look for it because I
take some pride in the hometown team and you and
a friend Dave Paleologus and John Zogby as well are
the three poles is where I rely upon. So thank
you for being available tonight.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
We well, we lived up to the expectation there.
Speaker 13 (33:08):
You sure did you sure did?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Uh.
Speaker 14 (33:10):
You've also lived up to the expectation tonight. I think
this race is going very much in the way that
that many thought. But what I mean, it looks to
me as if Donald Trump is going to be the
president elect, if not tonight, sometime in the next day
(33:32):
or so. Am I reading that?
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Yeah? No, no, no, I think we've seen enough in
the in the data here, certainly in the voting, that
he has outperformed the polls once again. Now you know,
we've been pretty good with him. We had him winning
these states, but he's winning them by two to three
points higher, which is still, you know, a pretty good polling,
(33:54):
but that's his tradition. Now he's got some big What
we've seen is not just in the swing states, and
you know those are the most competitive because that's where
Harris spent you know, billions of dollars in advertising, but
in these other states, like look at New Jersey, what
are we at four or five points in Jersey? Minnesota
two three points, so Virginia that's been sitting. So these
(34:19):
are states that the Democrats were at ten points. And
while Trump may not win these states as we come
back from this election, while there's a lot more things
in play, and it looks as if the electorate has
made a real shift in how they're going to vote
in the future, and look at like the state of Florida.
That state doesn't look to be in play at all
(34:40):
for the Democrats in the future. That could become a
problem for them as the electorate shrinks. And it's amazing
to think where we were just eight years ago when
Trump won that first election, not winning the popular vote.
He might win the popular vote as well tonight when
you start looking at California hasn't come in. Yeah, that's
(35:04):
a good point, but I think he I think he
could walk out with the popular vote.
Speaker 14 (35:10):
It's stunning to think of this. This this this political resurrection.
I mean when you think of where he was in
twenty twenty one, after the disgraceful events of January sixth,
twenty twenty one, and the indictments, all of that, and
(35:32):
everything was on the line for him tonight.
Speaker 13 (35:35):
I had I spoke with Tom.
Speaker 14 (35:36):
O'Neill earlier this hour, and he was trying to figure
out I was trying to figure out what is the
message that somehow Donald Trump.
Speaker 13 (35:45):
Was able to deliver this.
Speaker 14 (35:46):
This is almost a realignment election in terms.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Of we're different.
Speaker 13 (35:52):
Yeah, so tell it. You can. You can explain that
better than I can.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Go ahead, please, well, the working class is becoming Republicans
and the upper class is becoming Democrats. And the problem
that the Republicans had a few years ago coming out
of the Bush years, where that they were the upper
class and the Democrats were the working class, and that
change of what's happening in real time. But you know,
(36:15):
it's happening as you watch these returns in Michigan, in Minnesota,
and you know, I think we saw it in real
time back in twenty sixteen in Ohio. When we think
of that blue wall of Pennsylvania to Minnesota, we're forgetting
that Ohio used to be a swing state. That's not
you know, that's a I think we had it at
twelve points tonight, maybe ten points. That's no longer in play.
Speaker 13 (36:37):
And the Republicans also also won a took a senencee to.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Way packed up the Senate YEP, and they're going to
do the same thing out in Montana. So the question
is can the Democrats at this point hold the House?
Otherwise the Republicans could potentially walk out with all three
chambers and have a lot of power for the next
two years.
Speaker 14 (36:56):
So what is the message that that Trump Wasn't it
as simple as she broke it, I'll fix it. I mean,
that was what he came down to at the end.
She broke it, I'll fix it.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
No, no, no, no, it goes further back, goes back
to NaSTA. He's back into the UH, into the into that,
to that trade agreement where there's still a lot of
you know, yeah, yeah, no, that's deep rooted, but you
know he's part of that where hey, that was a mistake.
People agree with it. And I think you saw Vance
almost get it to a full boil during that vice
(37:27):
presidential debate with Walls, where Walls ended up agreeing with
them because you know, they were talking about experts and experts,
and it got Walls twisted up on that argument. So
that's where Trump has been able to make inroads with
that union vote, the working class, and younger voters. So
that I think the other concern.
Speaker 14 (37:47):
Yeah, do you think it would have made a difference
if Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris had picked Governor Shapiro of
Pennsylvania or do you think this.
Speaker 13 (37:57):
Was this was baked in the cake.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
No.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
I think that would have been one event that could
have helped. I think there was a series of mistakes
that were made on the Harris side and the communication
front that opened up or didn't know off enough opportunities
for the campaign, and she had to play for that,
including not accepting many debates when she initially entered into
the race. And because of that, the whole campaign kind
(38:24):
of falls flat in October because there's no events, there's
no you know, focusing events to get the country looking
at something. And with that said, Trump was in a
strong spot. There's a reason why Joe Biden President Biden
was he dropped from the race because he thought he
wasn't gonna win.
Speaker 14 (38:44):
Spencer, you you, you and and Dave Paleologus and and
John Zogby are the best, simply the best, the three
of you.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Thanks so much, my friend Dan, thank you so much
for having me.
Speaker 14 (38:59):
Any time, anytime we will we'll do We'll do a
postmarting on this sometime in the next week or so.
Thanks so much. Spencer Kimball Emerson College poster. Extraordinary, extraordinary.
That is it for me. But please stay with WBZ.
We got great coverage into the early morning hours. This
race is not officially over yet. Stay with us.
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