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October 27, 2025 37 mins
Former U.S. Senator John Sununu is back and he’s looking to be the next U.S. Senator representing New Hampshire as the former senator launched his election campaign last week. Sununu previously served in the U.S. Senate from 2003 to 2009. What made him decide to enter the Senate race up in New Hampshire? John Sununu joined us on NightSide to talk about his campaign!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on BZY, Boston's news Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Welcome back everyone as we start the nine o'clock hour.
Thank you very much, Dan Watkins. Delighted to welcome to
the Nightside Microphones. I believe for the first time former
Republican Senator from the great state of New Hampshire, John E.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Sonunhu.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
I think everybody is familiar with John Sonuna, the former governor.
John Sounhu's dad also very familiar with his brother, the
former governor, the most recent governor before Kelly A. Art Our,
Chris Sonunu, who's been a great friend of this program
for many, many years. And I'd like to welcome former

(00:45):
Senator Sonunu to the night to the Nightside Microphones. Welcome sir.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
How are you tonight?

Speaker 4 (00:50):
I'm doing great, Dan, Thank you very much. I guess
this it's part where I say long time listener, first
time color Well, you know.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
We can give you round of applause as a first
time I guess the first time.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yes, that's from our digital studio audience.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
That sounds like a sound effect left over from the
Larry Glick Show.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
To me, well, most of the Larry Glick sound effects
cannot be used if you get my drift in this era.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
I I'm dating myself. I used to listen to Larry
Click in the seventies. You know, he'd yeah, I come
on after after Celtics games. I think he had the
Celtics back then, Well.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
We had the Bruins, because when I started.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
That's probably Bruins.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah. Well, I remember one night I started.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
I was in law school and I was a Saturday
night host, and somehow I was able to get Ronald Reagan.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Then he was the.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Governor of California, and the Bruins were playing the Flyers,
and there was a brawl halfway through the game, so
the game instead of finishing at ten o'clock, it was
going to go till ten thirty. And once Governor Reagan
called in, he and I chatted for half an hour
because I didn't want to lose him. Was afraid, you know,
he might not call back. And we talked about his

(02:03):
days as a baseball broadcaster at w h O in
Des Moines, Iowa, when he would like do a ticker
tape thing on baseball games. In those days, they really
didn't even have radio, uh in you know, they'd have
radio in Chicago, but they would get hid get a
ticker and they'd say, you know, so and so was
up you know, uh uh, you know Gabby Hartnet or

(02:24):
something and the first pitch is.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
A ball And as he was like doing a version
of play.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
By play, Yeah, so man had happened.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
That's true, but that that did happen.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
And with Larry, they Larry Click used to shoot people
off the air when we get callers. Now we have
them walk the plank. It's a gentler way to say
goodbye to the particularly truculent callers. To be honest with you,
but let's let's talk about it with great to have
you as well as I say, we had Scott Brown
last week, and I mentioned I believe this is the

(03:00):
first time the two former United States senators vying in
a primary of either party for the nomination. This is
a historic event coming up, and I'm sure that both
of you are are hoping to win h and I'm
sure it's going to be an interesting race. And it

(03:21):
also is a seat that the Republican Party has a
pretty good chance of picking up. And that has to
be a consideration of both you and former Senator Brown.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Well, I think it's important, right it's important in New Hampshire.
I mean, you know, the polling that's been done quite
frankly shows me even in this race already before I
even got into it. I think it's it's a much
much tougher slog for Scott, but it's one we need

(03:54):
to win it as Republicans hold a Republican majority. More importantly, though,
for New Hampshire, you know, we want some one who
really reflects the state. Chris Bappis, who's likely to be
my opponent in the general election, is sort of a
party think event right. When Nancy Pelosi was Speaker two

(04:17):
hundred and twenty two out of two hundred twenty three votes,
Chris papp has voted with her. And you know, if
you ask someone in New Hampshire, does I really reflect
what we want in New Hampshire from representation in Washington,
of course it's no. So you know, my experience in
Congress was just standing up for New Hampshire every day.

(04:38):
That would be my priority in the Senate. You know,
we're a pretty independent minded state limited government. We want
local control for our cities and towns, let parents make
good decisions about education, keep taxes low. Obviously, we're a
low tax state. So you know, these are sort of
themes and priorities that are important to families, small businesses

(05:00):
in New Hampshire. And they're the kind of issues that
I've carried with me in my work, my whole life.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
I guess my question would be, and this is a
question to you, but it could also be a question
of Scott Brown, what's happened New Hampshire. I mean, I
remember when your dad was governor, and I remember when
Warren Rudman was a senator there and Gordon Humphrey was
a senator, and even go back further than that, there

(05:28):
was a period of time in the nineteen seventies when
the entire congressional delegation was Republican. Now the entire congressional
delegation in New Hampshire two senators, two members of Congress.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
All Democratic.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
It certainly would behoove the voters of New Hampshire have
some Republican representation in Washington, d C. How big of
an issue will that be do you think with voters?

Speaker 4 (05:55):
I think it will be important. I mean, you know,
you make a good point a couple of observations, right
to be sure, if we have a Republican President, we
have a Republican Congress. If you really want to have
a strong advocate in Washington, it's good for the state
to have a Republican voice in Washington, somebody who can

(06:16):
walk into the Oval Office and work with the President
to keep taxes low, to do the right thing, and
keeping a border secure, keep sentinel from coming into states
like New Hampshire, where in the past it's been a
real issue. You know, work on policies that keep things affordable,
keep inflation low so we don't have to go back

(06:37):
to that eight to nine percent inflation we saw SAE
eighteen months ago. At the same time, though, New Hampshire's
always had a strong two party system, if you will,
we had Democrat governors in the sixties, Democrat governors in
the seventies, parts of alternating with Republicans, etc. We had

(06:59):
Democrat members in the nineteen sixties and seventies, so there's
always been that strong two party system. Right now, we
have a Republican governor, we have a Republican state Senate,
in a Republican House, and four out of the five
executive councilors are Republican. But as you point out, it's

(07:19):
been a decade since we had that Republican voice in Washington.
And again that's one of the reasons I thought it
was very important to run because I know this is
a race I can and will win, and it will
give New Hampshire that strong advocate that it deserves and
that can be effective from day one.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
What do you think is happening to the Democratic Party
if not in New Hampshire. Nationally you have a race
now in New York City. We're an avowed socialist. I
would argue Marxist is leaving the race from mayor in
New York City. And I think that Orondami is likely

(08:02):
to become the poster figurehead of the national Democratic Party
because there's really no national leader of the Democratic Party
right now.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
What's going on with the Democratic Party? And can someone like.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Chris Pappus or any New Hampshire Democrat identify with national
leadership like Mundami?

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Well, they are identifying with him, you know, because that's
what they've chosen to do. I mean, you look at
the fact that Democrats almost across the board have have
endorsed Mam Dammy and and it's unfortunate. Look, it's I'm
not a Democrat, so you know, I don't think many

(08:51):
people really want to hear me, assess and analyze the
Democrat Party. But I think what's happened is with the
sale of President Biden. I mean the serious mistake that
he and his advisors made and pushing him to run
even though he really wasn't competent to stand for reelection.

(09:12):
The sort of mess that was made out of Kamba
Harris's election, it gets created that leadership vacuum that you described,
and into that vacuum has stepped sort of the extreme
left of the party, whether it's Bernie Sanders or Mandani
or AOC and they're pushing an already liberal leadership Chuck Schumer,

(09:39):
Kim Jeffries, someone like Chris Pappis in New Hampshire even
further left because those liberal Democrats a Schumer Jeffries a papist,
or they're afraid of being primary, they're afraid of being
undercut by the vocal popularity of that hard left within

(10:01):
their own party. So that creates a lot of chaos.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
But look in the.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Unfortunately for New Hampshire, it means that we suffer because
there's a total vacuum of good leadership, good representation for
our state in Washington, And what I'm trying to do
is step up and give our state an effective voice,
something who's thoughtful, who's focused on what New Hampshire needs

(10:29):
in terms of our small business economy, in terms of
empowering families and our state and local government. So I'm
excited about that. I'm excited about that race. And you know,
it's it's unfortunate that the that in this day and age,
uh kind of an about socialist who you know, wants

(10:52):
to take over grocery stores, legalized prostitution and and things
you can give away free housing without a costing billion
is at the driver's seat at the Democratic Party.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
My guest is a former New Hampshire Republican Senator John Easanunu.
I'm using John E to distinguish you from your dad again,
who I've known for many, many years, and Chris, who,
by the way, you mentioned fentanyl. I remember having conversations
with your brother when he was governor, and one of
the problems that you folks in New Hampshire had was

(11:25):
that a lot of that fentanyl was coming into New
Hampshire from cities on the southern border of New Hampshire,
and specifically Chris made that point on this program, and
I'm sure that's something that is important to you. We
got to take a quick break. When come back, I
want to talk to you a little bit about President Trump.
It's a different Republican Party today than when you were

(11:49):
United States Senator from two thousand and three to January
two thousand and nine, or elected in two thousand and
two and suffered a defeat in two thousand and eight,
and since then a lot has changed in the Republican Party.
Want to talk to you about the party that you
are now looking to lead in the state of New Hampshire.

(12:09):
We'll be back on nice side with my guest, former
Republican Senator from New Hampshire. He is running in the
Republican primary to become the next Senator from New Hampshire
to replace Jean Shaheen, someone who he defeated in two
thousand and two and who he lost to in two
thousand and eight, and he hopes to come back and

(12:30):
and and phill what he considers to be a seat
that he would I've heard it referred to as the
Sununu seat. So I don't think Kennedy seat, you know,
I don't want a reporter reporter said something like, you know,
trying to win your seat back, and it isn't my seat.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
No, I know that the people in Hampshire no, but yeah,
you know, I don't want anyone to take the lightheartedness. Seriously,
nothing is owed to me. This is about public service
and I'm not a career politician, and it's all about
sort of taking an opportunity that's right for New Hampshire
and trying to do the right thing.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
I know you were just kidding, well talk well, it
was just it was ironic as I understand that that
you know they talk about, I started down that path
and I said, this is not a good path too.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
We'll take a break.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
My guest, this is a former Republican Senator from New Hampshire, Johnson,
who he hopes to be the future Republican Senator from
the great state of New Hampshire.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Back on nights Side, right after.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
This, It's Night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news Radio.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
So let me go to a question that I'm sure
you've talked about, you've thought about when you left. When
when you left office in two thousand and eight, President
Obama was coming into the White House, Donald Trump didn't
appear really on the political scene until several years later.
He now is the titular ahead of the Republican Party.

(14:02):
Your opponent, Scott Brown served in his administration. How comfortable
will you be as a Senator for New Hampshire working
with at least for a couple of years with President
Donald Trump for a couple of years because I do
not believe the theory that he wants to try to
run a third term. I read the Constitution pretty carefully.

(14:24):
That's really not a possibility in my mind, and I'm
sure it's not in us either.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Well, the short answer is very comfortable. I mean, look,
I'm comfortable and have been working with presidents in the past,
fighting for what's in New Hampshire's interest, fighting for what's
right for our state and our economy. President Trump would
be no exception. We've got a lot of success to

(14:52):
build on, you know, passing legislation to keep tax as
low as he's done, and absolutely work with him to
keep those taxes low. I think the fact that he's
been able to and that the chaos, the tragedy that
we saw on our borders eighteen months ago with thousands

(15:14):
of people coming across the border illegally tragic circumstances. No
one wanted to see that kind of government failure, that
kind of tragedy in chaos. That's been stopped, and I
hope we never never go back to the chaos we
saw eighteen months ago. Inflations come down, So continue to

(15:34):
work with President Trump to keep inflation low, work on
affordability of healthcare, energy, housing. So, I mean, I'm very
comfortable in that role, and I know that there's no
one that can be as effective as quickly in that
role as I can.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Do you think he will endorse in a race like
this again, I'm not because has never been well, you know.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
We'll see. I think I'm trying to guess, uh, what
President Trump is is going to do is you know
a full Errand I think he wants to win this seat.
He knows if we flip this seat will hold the
Republican majority in the Senate. That's extremely important to him

(16:27):
and and I think that will will weigh very heavily.
I think he'll also want someone who has I just
described you know, we'll speak up, will be effective and
and so you know, we'll see what he does. I
haven't spoken to him to kind of look forward to
uh a chance to speak with him, and and then

(16:48):
we'll see what what he chooses to do. But I
think regardless, I've you know, run in many tough primaries before.
I ran against an incumbent Republican in two thousand and two, frankly,
in order to make sure that we held that seat
in two thousand and two, and we did. I was
I was in an eight person primary in my very

(17:09):
first race for Congry years ago, and it was sort
of a tough Republican primary. I went it with six
hundred and sixteen votes. But you know, I've always enjoyed
my campaigns.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
You mean by a Martin You mean by a margin
of six hundred.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
And sixteen Yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, I mean yeah, it
was eight people at the six hundred and sixteen Vogue margin.
I've always enjoyed my campaigns, and I I've certainly enjoyed
this one so far, and I expect to enjoy it.
How can how can folks, yeah, looking forward?

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Most most importantly, how can folks get in touch with
your campaign? I know that you have just recently announced.
I assume you have a website that we can direct
people to.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Sure we're we're well into a day, six sons Whenday.
The website is new Senator dot com all one word
New Senator dot com and uh, you know you can
uh find me on x at at snow New Senator

(18:17):
and yeah, I would love to have people go on
the website. Obviously there's a little bit of background. It's
still relatively new, but our announcement video ways that they
can get in touch and volunteer on the campaign. Now
we we rolled out of just a few endorsements, but
basically the party activists across the spectrum across the state

(18:41):
are supporting me because they know how effective I'll be,
they know I'll win. Of Senate President Sharon Carson Steve Stepanek,
who who led uh was the head of the Trump
campaign in New Hampshire in twenty twenty four that both
endorsed me are three of the four Republican executive counselors

(19:02):
to former governors whose name is not not Sinunu Governor
Craig Benson and former Governor Chuck greg And State Senator
Dan Innies has offered his support. Dan was a candidate
in this race and decided to suspend and endorse me,
which I'm very grateful for so, you know, great support

(19:23):
all across the Republican spectrum, some of the really strong
organizers of the Trump campaign from twenty twenty four, and
my campaigns have always been countertown, person to person, grassroots.
That's the way you run and that's the way I'll
always have it.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Well, I did ask Scott Brown the other night, so
I'm going to ask you if as this campaign develops,
and the primary election is not until next September, if
I'm correct, so it's going to be along road at
some point, I'd love to have you and Scott Brown
do something with me here on night side. Maybe we'll
even do something in a studio where all be in

(20:00):
the same room. I hope you'd be willing to consider
that as well as this campaign goes on.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yes, it'll be a long campaign. I mean, obviously we'll
see what kind of events, formats, debates are put together
for us, but I'm sure there'll be a good number.
And it's hard to think of a better moderator than you, Dan.
But you point out as I was, I was shaking

(20:26):
hands in Rochester, New Hampshire today and uh, you know what,
I pointed out that the election isn't for another year.
I think they sort of appreciate it that I was
coming by early, but they probably also thought it was
a little crazy to be campaigning a full year before
the election. But this is important and it's worth it.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
I think that that's that is critical. I really do.
I think that.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Let people take the measure, get out there, meet as
many people, and as they say, we would even consider,
uh maybe bringing the show up to New Hampshire. Would
be very difficult to invite you and Scott to come
uh and uh and and sit in a studio in Massachusetts.
That probably would be pretty inappropriate. But we'd love to
have a situation where we where we could have a

(21:13):
great conversation and it would be a great conversation with
you and Scott. So we'll we'll keep that in abeyance
for now, but in the meantime, best of luck. Thanks
so much. The website is sunu senator dot com. We
will be in touch. Thank you very much, Senator.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Thanks Dan. I have a great night, too great to
be with you.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
All right, So what I'd like to do, and it's
always up to my audience. You've had a chance to
hear uh. Former Republican senator from New Hampshire, John so New,
I'm going to open up the phone lines during the
newscast here. I'd love to get your thoughts UH on
that race.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
UH.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
It is an unprecedented race, having two to the best
of my knowledge, and I did my research, and I
believe I'm right that this is an unprecedented situation. I
have two former United States Scott Brown and John Sanunu,
vying for the nomination UH to have the right to
run h IT next November on the ballot. SO six

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one seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven,
nine three one ten thirty. We will also endeavor to
have Congressman Pappus on. At some point we will be
feared to all sides, not just both sides, to all
sides as this rate race evolves, as well as of
course racist in Massachusetts. Feel free to weigh in. Let

(22:31):
let's get your impression, your thoughts. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Hope you enjoyed the conversation with former Senator Sonunu. Now
it's your turn back on Nightside right after the news
a little bit late, be right back on night side.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
It's night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's news Radio.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Okay, I would really like to get We only have
about twenty minutes here until ten o'clock. I'd like to
hear from as many of you as possible.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Uh. If you live in New Hampshire.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Great, but wherever this is a race that the Republicans
have a legitimate chance to pick up a Democratic seat.
As I alluded to when I talk with former Senator Sununu,
New Hampshire has a rich history of having Democrats and

(23:21):
Republicans in Congress, and they have always Democrats and Republicans
looked after the interest of their New Hampshire voters, the
New Hampshire residents at the same time.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
The same time, not.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Having a balance within their delegation can be difficult if
you have all the members of the delegation who are
Democratic right now and a Republican president kind of tough
to get access, particularly to this president that is not
going to change until twenty twenty six. There will be

(24:00):
the opportunity for change because the incumbent Democrat, Jean Sheahan,
has decided not to stand for reelection, which has opened
up that seat as a real possibility, and two former
senators Scott Brown, who represented Massachusetts, who now lives in
New Hampshire and has New Hampshire roots, and John Sonunu,

(24:22):
who is a member of the Senunu family. Two members
of his family, his dad and his brother, served as
governor of New Hampshire most recently. Chris Sonunu and John E.
Sonunu was the United States Senator as well as a
member of Congress member of the House of Representatives from
nineteen ninety six to two thousand and two, and then
he served one term as.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
The US Senator.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
So I think it's a fascinating race, and I'd love
to hear from you, whether you live in New Hampshire
or outside the state. We all know that every year
only about a third of the Senate is up for reelection,
and many of those seats are filled by incumbents. It's

(25:08):
very tough to tip an incumbent in the US Senate.
So there are seats that will be in play, but
very few, very few, uh and New Hampshire is clearly
one of those states. So if the Republicans hope to
control the Senate, and of course controlling the Senate is important,

(25:30):
particularly if the Democrats decide they would like to impeach
Donald Trump for different reasons, legitimate or otherwise. The control
of the Senate by the Republicans will will make that
less likely. So the numbers are here six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty uh six one seven, nine three ten thirty.

(25:53):
I would love to hear from you if you happen
to be a Scott Brown supporter or a John Sinunu supporter.
John east Sonunu again to distinguish between the former governor
and the current candidate for the US Senate again, I
get excited about this race because it is a race
that has two former United States Senators vying for a

(26:19):
nomination that's never happened before. To the best of my knowledge,
US senators were always, historically throughout the nineteenth century and
into the twentieth century, appointed by state legislators state legislatures.
I should say, only around the time of World War
One did the election of US senators fall to the

(26:43):
people in states. And so there haven't been There's only
about a history of a little over one hundred years
of elections of United States senators. Many people don't realize that,
but even with one hundred years, there's never been and
I have done some due diligence on this. If someone
wants to correct me and say, oh, yeah, Missouri in

(27:04):
nineteen thirty, no to have an incumbent senator decide she's
not gonna run, which opens it up, opens the field
right up, and you have Scott Brown and John Sinunu.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
They'll have to fight it out. Now.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
They have to be careful because they one of them
will survive, and if they turn it into a tough contest,
nasty contest, that could endure to the benefit of the
Democrat Chris Pappus, who's currently a congressman in the first
district and apparently the odds on favorite to be the

(27:43):
Democratic nominee. So I'm just gonna open up these lines. Uh,
you're my political analysts. I'd love to get your take.
Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty six one seven,
nine three one ten thirty. I'll be right back after
a couple commercials. Let's let's hear from my audience. You
do not you do not need to hear from me anymore.

(28:04):
I've said my piece. I want to hear from you again.
This is not the Dan Ray Show. This is Nightside
with Dan Ray, and the audience is a very important
part of this program. Back on Nightside after this.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Well, it looks like no one wants to talk politics,
So okay, that's fine. You don't like politics, we'll move on.
Simple as that.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
I am.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
I don't understand that, but that's fine. I think it's
an interesting, exciting race, and we'll move on. I intend
at ten o'clock to open up a conversation about purchasing
products on the Internet.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Now.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
I don't know how many of you spend any time
during the year on the Internet and buying products on
the Internet, but like most people, I have occasionally I
am not someone There are people who buy everything on

(29:05):
the internet these days. They buy their clothes, they buy
their food, they buy their pet supplies. They basically live
on the internet. That's not me, but I have, over
time bought a lot of things on the Internet. But
one of the things I learned a couple of weeks
ago is that there's a mistake that I made that

(29:26):
I will admit to that I would like to give
you the benefit of that mistake. And it's a pretty
simple mistake that I made, but it has driven me
crazy for the last two weeks. So I saw an
item advertised on television, like most of you have seen

(29:47):
items advertised on television, and I decided to go to
the website. And I didn't do what I would consider
to be my due diligence, and I went ahead with
my credit card and ordered the item. I never imagined

(30:12):
that the item that I had ordered would come to
me from China. There was nothing at all on the
website which indicated that the item was coming from a
foreign country. Now, this is not a criticism of China,

(30:32):
but this is a criticism of my own inability to
do my due diligence. I have learned that in the future,
I will never order something on the internet simply through
the internet, I will always find a phone number. So

(30:54):
the reason I say that is I ordered the item,
and they gave me an approximate delivery date.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
And the delivery.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Date came, and I thought to myself. Originally I thought, well,
you know, I might get this a little earlier, a
couple of days earlier. No, I didn't get it a
couple of days earlier. But when I clicked on the item,
I got more solicitations from the company.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
And when I clicked on the item, I tried to.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Track it, and all I was looking at was Chinese characters.
Now might not, in my surprise you, I don't think
it will.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
I don't read Chinese.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
I'm not sure what version of the Chinese language was
being used, but it was indecipherable to me, so I.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Didn't know what it meant. Over time, though.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
As I periodically went back and checked this item out,
I found out that there.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Actually was.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Some English associated with it, and in time I had
to look at the information in English, so it said arrived.
Now again, these are prior to Chinese characters. Okay, I
don't know if it was Manchurian. I have no idea

(32:17):
arrived at export center, arrived at Waygan district of warehouse.
Didn't tell me where departed from export center, so I
know it was at the export center. I had no
idea where that export center was. I assume it was
in China. And then I got cargo leaves EC Warehouse,
which I guess means export center warehouse. I guess arrived

(32:38):
at origin port and I'm seeing HKG, so I'm thinking, well,
maybe this is Hong Kong, but it doesn't tell me
customs released from origin port. This is an item that
costs like about forty nine dollars.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
So there's a lot of information here, none of which
was any was very helpful. Parted from original country.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Then I see something that says JFK arride at this
the nation country.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Now I'm thinking this is getting good. It's at JFK airport.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Then custom clearance completed, Clarence Agency picked hand over the
local carrier. Doesn't tell me who the local carrier is.
Then a few days ago, Weymouth Mass parcel received but
with incorrect address. Note, please contact with customer service directly

(33:35):
and scheduled delivery.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
I have no idea who they're talking about.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
So I have a couple of codes which mean nothing
to me JDW and then about fourteen numbers ending in
three nine nine doesn't matter, but it says undeliverable. Then
I receive even more confusing information. I guess I would

(34:02):
have to call it confusing information. It tells me that
parcel received with incorrect address. Oh, I know what address
I typed in and I know it is the right address. NOE,
please contact with customer service directly and scheduled delivery. What

(34:23):
customer service. There's no number. So I received all of
this information with an order number. I have no idea
what that means. And again some number that says JDW.
I have no idea what JDW stands for. I am
totally confused. And the fact that it says undeliverable. Then

(34:50):
I got something that said item delivered. No, it wasn't delivered.
It wasn't delivered at least to my address. And then
after that another item said undeliverable incorrect address. So assuming
that this company is not just pulling my chain, I'm

(35:11):
not going to identify the company.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
This for me was a disaster because what did I
have to do next? I had to go ahead and cancel.
Contacted my credit card company, who were quite cooperative. I
explained everything to them as best I could. Because the
information it's like nothing I've ever seen. It was conflicting information,

(35:35):
it was confusing information. Here's my bottom line. My bottom
line is when the next time I go on thet
the internet, and I did go on the Internet subsequent
to this to buy something, I always will call.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
And when I call, I want to know two things.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Where is this company located and where is the product
that this company is sending me, where is that coming from,
and if it's coming from anywhere out of the country,
out of the United States of America, I'm not interested.
I also want to have always a phone that I
can call because this particular company, when I looked at

(36:19):
my visa account, what it said was Sheridan, Wyoming. Now,
I don't know how many people speak Mandarin or shared around,
but I don't think there's a lot. Bottom line is
that's the lesson I learned. When we come back, I'd
like to know if you've had a similar experience and

(36:40):
how did you handle it. As of today, my account
has been replenished the forty nine dollars, which is good
for me, not good for the company. Still haven't received
the product, have no idea where it is because they
told me it's undeliverable with the wrong address.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
I've given up.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
I love to hear your experiences and maybe if you
did something better than me, I know going forward, I
told you my rules. When we get back, Well, well
we're going to open up the lines right now. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty.
Bring it on. Let's have some fun with this. Let's learn,
because we are now going into the Christmas shopping season

(37:22):
and I don't want anyone to be burned like I
was burned in this situation.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
We'll come on right back on Night's side.
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