August 6, 2024 • 40 mins
Ben Parker for NightSide:
Vice President Kamala Harris announced she has chosen Minnesota Governor Tim Walz to be her running mate in the 2024 Presidential Election. Ben talked with Doug "VB" Goudie and New York State Senator Peter Oberacker about what lies ahead as voters get ready for November.
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Vice President Kamala Harris announced she has chosen Minnesota Governor Tim Walz to be her running mate in the 2024 Presidential Election. Ben talked with Doug "VB" Goudie and New York State Senator Peter Oberacker about what lies ahead as voters get ready for November.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome the next Vice President of the United States, Jim.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Wall being introduced by the current Vice President of the
United States, Kamala Harris. Good evening. I am Ben Parker,
and I'm filling in for Dan Ray. Let's do a
quick background check here before we get started, because some
may not be aware of what I normally do here
at w BZ, which is news in the afternoon from
two until six o'clock. You can hear me every weekday
(00:35):
afternoon here on WBZ. I occasionally fill in for Dan
Ray on night Side, another four hour shift. Thank you
very much, and I have actually filled in on the
radio for the person that I am about to introduce
as my first guest tonight. I am kind of calling
this this first hour, by the way, in case you're interested,
the Ben Parker Rolodex Hour, because a couple of special
(00:57):
guests are joining me who are inlight Rolodex by chance,
and the first one comes to us via New York State, Albany,
New York. In fact, however, you will recognize this person
not only from radio in Boston, but also television in Boston.
He's written a book. He is a world renowned celebrity.
(01:17):
Not right, it made that part up, but you do
know who he is, Doug Goudi, otherwise known to some
Bostonians as VB. Good evening, Sir.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Benjamin Parker, how are you, my friend?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I am very well, and of course a Massachusetts native
you are, and you've shuffled off to well, not Buffalo,
but halfway there, I guess, as you are doing mornings
on wg Y, which I can say because it's also
an iHeartRadio station, of which we are one as well,
and you do a lot of political commentary there, and
that's part of the reason that I wanted to get
you on tonight. But first of all, I want to
(01:51):
kind of give you a chance to throw out your
good will wishes to the Bostonians who perhaps miss you
on the radio and television here.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Well, first of all, three letter radio stations are where
it's at, as you a WBZ no. So we're doing
WGY out of here, New York's first radio station, by
the way, and we both celebrated our hundredth in the
same year as you well recall, so a couple of
legacy stations. That's number one, Number two I can't tell you, Parker,
(02:21):
how many times somebody says to me or I get
an email or a text or something that says, hey,
I love hearing you do my pillow on WBZ.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Everybody's listening to BZ all over and everybody's.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Talking about it. So yes, indeed, get your MyPillow products
and a great sale going on right now. But I
love being on BZ with that because it's great to
stay connected to the old home town.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah, that's where people that's where people hear you on WBZ.
What a great connection you have with the with the masses,
so to speak, as they later.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I don't want to get you sidetracked here, Parker, in
any way to give you an outsiders observation of Massachusetts.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
Of course you can.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
So I was there over the weekend my son had
a hockey tournament, and a little south of the city,
we were down and mostly in Rockland, a little bit
in Dedham. But I was amazed at not one, not two,
but three different overpasses on two separate highways. Did I
see people standing over on the bridge like from Stem
(03:23):
to Stern on the overpass with free Karen Reid signs
and from a new Yorker's perspective. I've been reading, I've
been following the case a little bit. I understand it
was national whatever, but I guess I didn't really understand
just how big and how passionate people are about it
there until I was there last weekend with the thing
not even going on. And I've never seen that before,
(03:45):
where people are up over overpasses with free whoever it is.
We got a bunch of national cases here in New
York sivin since i've I've never seen anything like that.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Maybe the people in New York on is good at
making signs. Did you ever think about that?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I don't think that. Whatever it is, I was like, wow,
look at how what I know. People are dug in
and they're on whatever side they're on there and whatever.
That's cool. But I've never seen people holding signs up
while there wasn't a trial going on.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Yeah there is.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
People are out on like a ninety five degree dead
sun Saturday, sweating their butts off making sure that the
message got out.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
There is a court hearing on Friday in this particular case.
And by the way, there's a couple of things about that. Well, one,
there was a mistrial as everyone knows, and they're going
to see if they're going to throw out the case
or not throw out the case. The probably not anyway,
so they'll go to trial again. So this will be
going on and on and on. Here's the one thing
that I find funny about the free Karen Read people
is she is free right now. And I always kind
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of say, you know, maybe that's the wrong verbage right
now because she's not locked up. You know, when you
say free somebody, they're usually locked up. She's not because
she's awaiting another trial. But anyway, glad, that's what you
picked up on when you came to Massachusetts.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
That's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I've never seen it before.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Ever, you may never see it again. Let's get to
what we did have you on for tonight. Outside of
the fact that you're a wonderful human being, I know
you do a lot of the political talk when you
do the morning show, and clearly the big political talk today,
tomorrow and going forward will be that Kamala Harris has
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now picked her running mate. There was a lot of
speculation who it might be or it wouldn't be, and
today Tim Walls, which, by the way, if you're a
conservative organization I've got the great headline.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
For you tomorrow, right, I'm waiting.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Yeah, Okay, here you go.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Democrats putting up walls not bad, you see, That's right,
that's good, right. I mean, that's that's what you would
use if you wanted to make the dem sound back anyway.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
I digress. A lot of people don't know a lot
about him.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
In fact, there's a recent poll I'll guess to that
number in a few minutes where where most people don't
know who this guy is Minnesota's Governor's not exactly unless
you're Jesse Ventura doesn't usually get a lot of play
in the media. Should we know more about this guy?
And what do we know? And what a you sensing
by who Kamala picked?
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Huh? All right, let's go through it one by one.
I mean, first of all, a pretty safe pick, pretty
don't want to ruffle too many feathers pick. I mean,
Shapiro was going to be the governor Pennsylvania, was gonna
be the one that said, Wow, she's gonna be a
little bolder here, She's gonna take a leadership position. She's
gonna say no, this is who I want, and I'm
staying firm. She didn't do that, and then they threw
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him the bone today, Hey will you introduce us? Like,
oh wow, that's great. Nothing like getting the runner up
and having to introduce the person who's got the gig
you wanted. But he had to do that in Philly.
The interesting thing about that, and I think it's much
more interesting who wasn't pick than who was right now.
But they quickly got a story out, or there is
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a story out. Whether they got it out or not,
I don't know, but that the story goes that she
didn't pick Shapiro because they thought that Shapiro was a
little too ambitious and he might try to outshine her.
And I thought, well, that's funny, because first of all,
she just was part of a thing to push the
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guy that was ahead of her out so that she
could get the nomination. That's number one, number two. It's
an interesting story, except that there's another story out there
that says they didn't pick him because he's Jewish and
they had to play to the very very far left,
pro Palestinian anti israel As Van Jones on CNN Today said,
(07:36):
the very dark side, anti Semitic growing side of the
Democratic Party, and it does look like That's what they did.
Everybody on the inside told anybody who would listen that
Shapiro was the right choice, and they went with Walls.
The guy is in a state that they don't have
to worry about at all. When Pennsylvania's won, they very
much have to worry about. So it's a little bit
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curious that way, but it safe. I mean, he's not
He's not gonna get them into too much trouble. Is
he very liberal? Of course he is. Was he, you know,
very placating and very left during the riots in Minneapolis?
Of course he was. Did he put tampon's in high
school boys' bathrooms? You read that a thousand times already
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since he got the nomination. I don't think that bothers
the base of the Democratic Party, though, so I think
there is a general rule happy with it. And again
the bar is so low because all they keep thinking
is we couldn't win with Biden Marris. At least theris
Walls gives us a chance, yea.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And he probably does give them a chance. And we'll
have to see how it plays out. And obviously the
Trump and Van's campaign's already going after the pair. I
want to play this we're gonna go to a break shortly.
Vb At Doug Goudy joins us this evening to talk
about the pick of Tim Walls as Kamala Harris's vice
presidential running bay. But this is Walls. He's from Minnesota,
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or he lives in Minnesota. Now he came from Nebraska.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
But here he is.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
This is CUTT number sixty, and he is talking about
basically where he came from.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Cut sixteen.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
Minnesota's strength comes from our values, our commitment to working together,
to seeing past our differences, to always being willing to
lend a helping hand. Those are the same values I
learned on the family farm and tried to instill in
my students. I took it to Congress and of the
state capitol, and now Vice President Harris and I are
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running to take those very values to the White House.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
By the way, is anything more American than working on
the farm. I was working on the farm. I mean,
he came from a farm. He was a high school
of coach and a teacher, and served in the military,
which of course God bless him.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
So it's just kind.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Of weird right out. I get my values from working
on the farm. Just kind of strange, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I mean, yeah, pretty soon he's going to have a
sicker Minnesota accent than he already does. He's going to
do that Fargo thing, you bet you and all that.
But listen, he had the camouflage hat on during the
alleged call from Kamala. You saw that story they put
out to that he didn't answer the first time she
called this morning because it said no caller, no caller
(10:13):
ID so he didn't know who it was, so he
didn't answer it. Mmm. Sure, but he's just that folksy
and just that regular that gosh darn it, I'm not
going to answer that call because I don't know who
it is. So she had to call a second time. Sure,
and then he answered it for some reason, even though
it said the same thing, which is kind of weird.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Right, didn't say no caller idea and it's say potential
spam because maybe you know that that would scare somebody.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Right. Let me tell you. If the stories about Kamala
are true and the reason why her staff quit the
record pass because they don't like her, she wouldn't have
called a third time. Shapiro would have got that call.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
By the way, there was I think it was political
who had the story they said, And when you talk
about Shapiro, and obviously I've heard all the things that
you've already mentioned, but that he said, I don't want
to do this, he didn't want to be the vice
president because of whatever the pressure, or he wanted to
stay in Pennsylvania I think was actually the story. So
that actually sounds like the best of all of them.
(11:12):
He's too excitable, he's Jewish, I mean, wanting to stay
in his home state and do some good there.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
I mean, I almost you almost want to pat him
on the back.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
If that's the truth, it would kind of run counter
to the fact that the mayor of Philadelphia accidentally put
out that congratulations video a week ago because they set
it to run but put the wrong date in. Always
nice when that happened, But somebody told them it was
going to be him, And my guess is it probably
was going to be him at that time, and so
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that happened. So if he really didn't want it, that
seems your heart game pretty late, because he was lobbying
right up unto the end for it went. He was
with her on Sunday, So like, when did he decide
he didn't want to do it because there was no
indication of that before.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
And of course it was the celebration tonight. The rally
was in a Penncyila, and so that was where everybody
was thinking too that you know, if she's doing this
event in Pennsylvania, if she's going to Pennsylvania, if she's
gonna hang out in Pennsylvania, it's got to be someone
from Pennsylvania. And then well, maybe she just didn't want
to go to Minnesota for a rally.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
That's possible.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I remember Amy Klobashar doing her launch for president in
twenty twenty in Minnesota. Remember it was a driving blizzard
in the snow was gathering on her coat and she
looked like Jack Nicholson at the end of the shining.
To use a dated reference, it was so cold and
so ridiculous. That's probably put those off for like fifty years.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Now.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Let's not run the risk. Forget it. It could be
snowing there.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Uh VB otherwise known as Doug Gotti's joining us here.
He is hosting a morning show in Albany, New York
at WGY, another three call letter radio station, and we'll
continue with him talk about Kamala Harris's pick for vice
president today, Tim Walls from Minnesota. We got an action
packed night tonight, not that it's not usually action packed
on night's side, but we'll continue along. End of course,
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Speaker 1 (13:18):
Now Bent to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Light Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
I know a little something about that commitment to people.
I was born in West Point, Nebraska. I lived in Butte,
a small town of four hundred where community was a
way alive. Growing up, I spent the summers working on
the family farm.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
There's Tim Wallas. He's the pick fify Kamala Harris to
be her running mate as the vice presidential candidate for
the Democrats. They held a rally today in Philadelphia. Getting
a little bit excited, I gotta say and and VB.
Doug Gouty is with us. You probably know his name
from Boston Television and he works out of Albany in
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New York. Now also for an iheard radio station. I
gotta say, because he's from Minnesota and obviously there's there's
people there. Is it safe to say this may be
the biggest audience he's ever spoken in front of that
one time.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Probably yeah, and something like coming close to it anyway, Yeah,
he seems, by the way, has a long history of
people on the ticket but not actually get to the
finish line. So you go all the way back to Humphrey,
but they've got a number. It's kind of like Massachusetts,
like how many times are you gonna go back to
this well and not have it pay off for you?
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But they've got it. They Minnesota and Massachusetts very similar.
If you remember all the way back in the Reagan election,
Massachusetts was hanging in until the very end of eighty
four and then finally went Reagan. Minnesota didn't have dung
in there for Mondale, but those two states have a
very similar political history when you look at it.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I'm not gonna lie. I mean, I don't know a
ton about Tim Wallas. I mean I knew who he
was before he got picked, and I know I mean
a little bit about him, but I'm a historian of
Kim Wall, so we'll learn a lot about him. The
one thing I noticed in the rally today, and I
don't know if this is him or him trying to
be very excited. He had that the bubblehead thing going on.
(15:14):
He was Bumpa's head up and down quite a bit,
and he seemed very as he should be. He's been
picked to me with the vice president, right, but he
seemed very excited. He was doing an awful lot of
clap and smile and laughing, and he laughed at times
when I didn't think it necessarily required it.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Tim and Kamala got that in common, don't they.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, nervous laughter. Maybe, I don't know. I was that
was one of the things that I noticed. And of
course you don't always know what someone's thinking when you're
seeing that, but that was That was kind of what
I thought, and I said, boy, he's really excited to
be up on that stage, which he should be.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
None of us know that much about him, but we
have already heard. Oh, he was a high school teacher.
He was a football coach, looks like a guy who
probably ran a pep rally or two and stays mister
positive through the halls. How are we doing, Timmy, we're
going to get that grade in his class? You know
that kind of stuff when you bump into the guys.
So he gives off that vibe. The question is did
people grow tired of that very quickly? But apparently when
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he shakes hands with you, he goes, here's five good
ones for you. Like and see a little of that
goes a long way for me. If that guy's with
me in the office, I'm like, oh, he's in there
getting coffee. I think I'll wait because I can only
do the If I was any better, they'd be two
of me. I can only do so much of that.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
That's me.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I don't know how that plays nationally.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
Well, we'll see.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
And of course politicians are known for when they go
out of the stump right saying the same things over
and over again anyway, so we'll see if Tim Walls
tells the same dad jokes over and over again when
he's son, he's out there on the stump, listen before
we let you go, and I appreciate you joining me.
We have a couple of people who I think want
to say hello to you, because they probably don't want
to say hello to me. So let's take a couple
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quick phone calls. Here, We've got Bill and Dan versus. Bill,
Welcome to the Night's side.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
How are you good?
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Good? I do know a little bit about well during
the COVID deal. So I mean, you look at it,
the guy. You want to say, the deep blue state,
but there are some congressional districts. There's a few Republicans,
particularly up north because it's changed over time. They have
a lot of natural resources, the Iron Range up there,
which Trump let him do some mining, but again Biden
(17:16):
shut him down. Waltz is also in favor of that,
so he's decimated part of his state. They hold on
the power because they adventure Palitan area in the Twin Cities,
like a lot of blue states. But the two big
things that it was probably a test for the guy
was COVID, and to me, I think he failed and
he was super locked down and destroyed a lot of businesses,
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and like a lot of deep blue run states, he
was one of those real followers, Troupe believes. And the
other one was the riots. I mean he did nothing
for a week. And basically, I mean a lot of
small to medium businesses and decent people got burned out.
They did nothing about it. I didn't see a lot
of guys go to jail, So I don't know. I mean,
(18:01):
it's fairful with the country stone to think that the
country is going to go for that ticket. At least
it's scary times, you know, now, well, I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
And you mentioned, you know, the things he did in
Minnesota during it after the COVID pandemic. But he won
reelection in twenty twenty two, which was smacked out in
the middle pretty much by about eight points over a doctor,
a physician, and a vaccine skeptic.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Maybe the people in Minnesota clearly like him enough to
elect them and then elect them again.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Well yeah, and that's fine, I mean that you look
at it. I don't think it worked out too.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
And this is.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Another thing that's happening too. If you look at the
census of the overall in COVID sped this up, and
of course with the boomers retiring, that also throws it
in there. But the bluer areas are just getting bluwer.
You know, people are segregating themselves. The ready areas are
getting red of so you know it's hard to find
these purple estates or down the middle. So you know,
(18:58):
you got some people that think that great. But I mean,
if you if you're looking at it from you know,
I'm a pro. You know, rise in timeh lifts all boats.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You know.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
JFK had it right.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Too bad.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
You won't find those guys anymore. Uh, you know type
of guy and Dan knows me. I usually call up
and that's fine. They re elected it, so they supported
those policies. And if you look at it with the
tax and the penalties and stuff, I mean, and they've
had population loss, like a lot of the bluest states.
Massachusetts is experience that. I think it's eleven hundred a
(19:30):
week where every two weeks to look at the latest
thumbus whatever they've said out of the state house. Ye
and uh so, uh you know that's basically the story.
I mean, it's not like, you know, if you were
looking at the top places for research development, what the
latest things happened in job growth? What are they doing
there or whatever? There's nothing in Minnesota other than may
(19:53):
be some tourism sometimes to hear that you would point
that and say, hey, you know that's a place that
we want to you know what I mean, Emil aid
or see. You know it's just not damn.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, yeah, I'm in a little of along, Billie. Do
you appreciate the call? Thanks for calling in. By the way,
they have a great plowing industry in Minnesota.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
I think so. I've heard Doug goutis with us.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
You want to follow up on anything he said about
Tim Walls.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Well, during COVID he did. Do you know in New
York were get a big thing with Andrew Cromo. We're
still trying to get a review of the COVID nursing
home issue. Wall did the exact same thing and later
said it wasn't a mistake to send nursing home patients
back in after they'd had COVID at the hospital. You know,
not pretty in any way, shape or form, for sure.
(20:36):
But listen, Trump said this the other day when he
was at the NABJ. He said, the vice presidency doesn't matter.
Nobody votes for the vice president. It doesn't affect any way,
shape or form. There's a couple of days of excitement,
people get all worked up, then it dies down and
nobody cares that's true here. I mean, does anybody who
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is voting for either Vance or Walls. Nobody. So we
do this and we'll get worked up about it, and
we'll talk about it for a couple of days, and
when they have their debate, we'll get worked up about
it and we'll talk about that too. But in the end,
people are voting for either Trump or Harris, or really
they're voting for Trump or not Trump. And that's how
it's going to be. And these two guys are going
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to be just joining a long, long list of people
that figured out what John nance Garner meant back in
the nineteen thirties when he said the Vice bresident, he's
not worth a bucket of warm wiz. Yeah, I mean
that's been a fact our whole lives.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Before I say goodbye, let's get Jane and Shrewsbury on
real quickly. Do you want to say hello to VB?
Or do you have a comment about Walls?
Speaker 8 (21:37):
I guess both?
Speaker 6 (21:38):
Oh good, Well, go ahead and do both.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Well. I only know who VB is from the commercials
for the Mipellar commercials.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Well he likes that then, but I don't.
Speaker 8 (21:49):
Yeah, okay, then I'll tell you I'm a little bit
upset because he's obviously conservative and you're talking about the Democrats,
and he's not really going to say anything nice about
the Democrats. So but I do have a couple of thoughts.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
All right, I hate to rush you against it, Go ahead.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
Tim Walls is from a conservative district and he served
like six terms as in Congress in a red district.
And when Trump is now saying the vice president doesn't matter,
that's because JB. Vance isn't really striking it rich with everybody.
And we have to think about Trump's age. You know,
everyone's talking about Biden's age, but Trump, unfortunately is an
(22:27):
old man also, so people are concerned about who's vice president.
So I guess I'm kind of disagreeing with everything. And
also as far as laughing, Donald Trump never laughs unless
he's making fun of somebody else. So who do you
want to have a beer with? Someone who can actually
laugh or somebody who's just mocking everybody.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I would have a beer with whoever's paying for the beer.
That's who I want to have a peer with.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Well, you're not going to have a beer with Trump
because he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah, I had to let Jane go because we are
up against the clock and we have another guest coming on,
who actually is is again from my rolodex and from
your neck of the woods. So why don't you tune
in on the iHeartRadio app and listen, vvloy listen.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
It's a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
And I know because you came on, I owe you
some some skybars or something, so we'll get them to.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
I'm about a box, dude. I think they come twelve too.
A box. Let's go step it up.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Half a box. I'll buy a box and take half
of me. All right, my friend, Thanks Doug. All right,
I'll see you later. All right, there's there's Doug Gotty.
He's a VB and of course you may know him
from his RKAO days or on Fox twenty five or
from w g Y. Maybe you listen on the iHeart
Radio app. He's part of the family. Big hug for him,
thanks for joining us. He does a morning show in Albany,
New York. And we'll have another guest coming up as
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we'll continue to talk about this pick by Vice President
Kamala Harris picking her vice presidential nominee who she wants
to be the sidekick in twenty twenty four and on
the ballot. And we'll have that continuing as we go
along here on a evening with Ben Parker filling in
for Dan Ray on Night Side.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
We're back Ben Parker filling in for Dan Ray. I
love to hear from you if you'd like to chime
in and talk about the pick today. Tim Walls, the
Minnesota governor chosen by Kamala Harris as the vice presidential
running mate for her campaign. She officially yesterday got the
number of votes needed from delegates in order to be
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the presidential nominee by the Democrats. So Kamala Harris officially
and we knew that anyway. Obviously from the Democratic side,
there's lots of support for this pick, as you would expect.
I mean, most diehard Democrats are going to vote for
whoever Kamala Harris picked. And as VP pointed out when
we spoke to him in the last half hour, people
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aren't voting generally for the vice presidential candidate, right, They're
voting for the candidate for president. And oh, by the way,
here is the vice presidential candidate. So you know if
you like if you like the p and running, then
you'll like the person who's running with her.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
That's kind of the philosophy. But you can always give
us a call here at WBZ and.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Enjoy the conversation six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.
I did mention that I do the news in the
afternoon here on w BZ, but I've also filled in
for Dan Ray, and I've also filled in for Doug
Douty at WGY in Albany. And that, by the way,
is where I met our first guest. And there is
a second guest, they should say, because Doug was our
first guest. But there's a backstory to this, and I
(25:28):
want to tell it.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
First.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I told you this was Ben Parker's Rolodex hour. He's
in my rolodex. That's how we got to this guy.
But really, in all seriousness, last time I filled in
for Doug in New York, I had on the show
with me a state Senator from New York, Peter Oberacker,
and I told him next time I filled in, Mah
he would have to be the co host. And then
I didn't fill in again in Albany, and so here
(25:50):
I am in Boston, and I said, you know what,
I'm going to call Senator Obaacker and see if he
wants to come in, because there's a couple of reasons why.
So first of all, Senator Obraracker, I never back out
on a promise.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
And so here you are back with me again. Welcome
to the show, Welcome to Boston.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Well, thank you. And Ben, I thought maybe I did
something to run you out of Albany, but apparently now
that's always.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
A good thing.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Apparently I did something to run me out of Albany.
That's that's that's what happened. You are You are a
senator in New York State, senator, and I want people
to understand that because one of the things that I
find interesting about you, and not you, but you're your legislator, legislator,
is you're a lot like Massachusetts. You're you're a Republican,
and you're in a democratically controlled state, and therefore it
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must make things a little harder for you to get
any kind of traction unless it's something so uh unanimously
approved by everybody.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
Is that as a senator?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Uh, did you go home at night and hit your
head against the wall and go ho, Am I going
to crack this open.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
You know?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Well, well number one, Ben, great, great to be back
talking with you, and thank you for the chance to
allow right on that. You know, my wife said to
me one time then she says, you're really not not
too smart. And because you are running for the state
Senate in a democratically, you know, controlled state, so there
may be some credence to that. But I'm also going
(27:15):
to put it to you this way. You know, I
was a business made up until actually December, which I
retired out of a company i'd started in December. And
I have learned. I have learned to work with those
who you wouldn't maybe normally go afterwards and have a
beer with right or maybe sit down for dinner with
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because the ultimate goal is to is to try to
get something completed in a positive way, in a positive
fashion that that probably really kind of kind of puts
politics the atmosphere in Albany. I have worked across the aisle,
tried to work across the isle with with with all
of those, some better than others, but I was actually
(27:58):
very happy with the number of bills that I was
able to pass this last session in New York.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I want to ask you this, Senator before we get
on to Vice President Harris's pick of Tim Walls today.
You look at politics, you see it, and you've got
the Democrats, and you've got the Republicans, and you've got
a Democratic governor. And you look, you listen to the
radio and watch TV. You see the atmosphere that we're
living in here.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
When you as a.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Lawmaker, it's got to make you, I don't know it
is to make you sad, make you mad, make you crazy.
I mean, something's got to give here so that we
can get back to doing the business of all Americans,
by all Americans, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
You know, you know, Ben, I have the fifty percent
district which I represent, which is all over parts of
seven counties, almost the size, almost the size of the
state of Connecticut. And you know, being from a very
rural background and rule upbringing, we have kind of like
a country with them, if you will, and I'll equate
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it to this. There's an old saying up here where
I'm from. It says, be sure to taste your words
before you spit them out. And I wish we would
do more of that in Albany. It seems sometimes that
you know, we're looking for the gotcha moment, We're looking
for that little sharp you know, retort to a debate
or something of that nature, when in reality you're right.
(29:23):
We may disagree, and believe me, I do. I disagreemently
with my colleagues from across the aisle, but I do
it respectfully. I do it respectfully, and I really think
that that's something that we need to bring back to
politics as a whole, is to remember that, yeah, I
may not go have a beer with you, and I
may not even you know, give you a birthday card,
(29:44):
but by golly, we need to spind some commonality, some
common ground to work out these issues for those that
I represent in my district.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
A house divided against itself cannot stand. Those are pretty famous.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Words, are we.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I mean, you look at I'm gonna have you step
outside of New York a little bit. Look all across
this great land of ours? Are we in danger of
not standing? Because we are a house so divided against ourselves?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I think so, I really do, and you know I
can maybe maybe I'll quit it to you this way too.
I mean, if you've noticed with President Trump, I mean,
he could basically say he could and he could basically
say have a nice day, and you know, no problem.
But if he was also you know, to say enjoy
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the next twenty four hours and not sound vaguely threatening.
Do you see what I'm saying. I mean, it's kind
of the way you can say something, you can put
it forth. It's not the way it's intended. But man,
I'm telling you, lately, it seems like these scenes get twisted,
these things get converted, These things get put through this
meat grinder. And I'm a sausage maker, if you remember
(30:55):
by trades, so I know that very well. But it
gets put through that meat grinder, and it's there strictly
to divide us. It is strictly there to divide us,
not to unite us.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
So now we have so now we have Tim Walls
being picked by Kamala Harris to be her running bait
uh and obviously some some grenades have already been launched
in that direction by Republicans and some will be launched back.
And we know Walls and Harris called Vance weird, and
so we've got all this again, pseudo name calling, which
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is kind of what politics is to a degree, but
how I guess how do we go forward here? And
I'll have you kind of twofold here, how do we
go forward and stop having everybody just make you know, names,
call names of each other. And what's your take on,
uh Tim Walls because you mentioned, you know, you're in
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kind of farming country and here's a guy who comes
from farming country.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Right right. Well, you know the interesting thing, you know,
we we had had a very busy day by the way,
in my Senate district, and so you know I heard
late that uh who who the pick was for Kamalaw
and uh, you know, I'll be honest with you, I
didn't know much about him really to start with. I mean,
I knew, you know, where he's from, and I knew
(32:11):
some parts of it, like you know, like you just said,
the farmer. But basically what I've heard and what I've
I've been able to determine is that I believe he's
even farther extreme left than than she is. And it's
just an interesting diconomy that uh Shapiro, you know, from
from from Pennsylvania wasn't pick for it. All along, we've
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kind of been hearing that he was in the forefront
in the forerunning for this, so I'll accredit this way.
The chess board has been set right, the uh, the
pieces are in play. It's unfortunate that this has turned
into these bombs throwing incidents back and forth. I would
like to see us get back to being an adult,
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or we're more appropriately been, back to being a politician
and the I have a friend of mine from Ireland,
love him. His name is Marcus Mallan, and he says
to me one day, he says, Peter, he says, if
you want to be a great politician, you need to
tell someone to go to hell and them look forward
to the journey. And that's kind of where we're at.
We need to get back to ye. You know, even
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with Reagan, who are absolutely adored, he had a way
of kind of in a tug and cheek kind of
way to throw a little fun at or throw these
little jabs at. But they were mostly done with humor,
and there's none of that anymore. It's strictly venom, it's
strictly pointed, and it's there to definitely divide us.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
You know, a lot of people talk about a couple
of people you mentioned Reagan, but one of our locals
from around here. Tip O'Neil, who was the speaker for
so long, and he had a way and during the
Reagan era too, with being able to reach across the
aisle disagree without being disagreeable, which is a huge thing.
And I don't know if there's maybe there needs to
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be a course for politicians where they learn how to
be that way.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
And I know plenty of people.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Look, I know plenty of people who don't like Reagan
and like Tip O'Neil or vice versa.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
But they understood that these two guys who.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Were basically sitting on the opposite side of the aisle
throwing things, you know, at each other, their opponents, but
at the same time they were able to sit down
and go, Okay, how do we work this out? And
I wish we could get there again.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
There is, you know, then there is there is. I
believe in my heart of hearts that if one requirement,
one one requirement to be a legislator at any level
is at some point in your life you have either
tried or did run a business. Because I'm gonna tell you, guys,
I go back to it. Business is always about, you know,
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trying to find that common ground right that commonality. Again,
I may not particularly like this individual, but hey, you're
going to purchase my waar is you're gonna do this? Yeah? Okay,
I benefit you benefit you know. That's the basis for everything.
I believe that if we were all either businessmen and
or women. I'm telling you, I think things would change in.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Our Peter Robacker is a senator from the Great State
of New York or state Senator. I met here when
I filled in on wg Y in Albany, New York,
and I'm glad that he's joined us tonight. We're gonna
have a few more minutes to talk to him, so
we'll bring him back. We've got to take a break
here nightside with Dan Ray. Dan is not here. I
am Ben Parker. I normally do afternoon news here on
WBZ from two to six in the afternoon. By all means,
(35:22):
feel free to tune in if you don't. And I
should tell you that if you ever want to listen
to us wherever you are not able to hear us
on the radio, you can download the iHeartRadio app and
there we will be coming right out of your device
easy as that. We'll be right back. Stay with us
Ben Parker filling in for Dan Ray on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Now back to Dan Ray line from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Dan Ray is not here by any windows or otherwise.
He is on vacation on assignment. We'll say that sounds
so much better. Ben Parker filling in for Dan Ray.
We've got lots of stuff coming up later on tonight.
We are going to talk to a local Olympic hero
as we talk about the Olympics coming up at the
ten o'clock hours, So stay with us for that. But
we had a lot of stuff going on between now
and then. And joining me this evening for about five
(36:10):
six minutes more is Peter Oberacker. He is a state
senator out of the Great State of New York, and
we used to talk when I was filling in for
Doug Goudie on wg Y and Albany and made a
point to reach out to him because I owed him
another appearance. I told him we were going to have
him on again, and then I didn't fill in again
in Albany. And so thanks for joining us. I really
(36:30):
do appreciate it, Senator, and I want to ask you this.
We're talking a little bit about general politics. But the
pick today by Kamala Harris of Tim Walls.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
As as vice presidential candidate.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Doug mentioned this, and I think there is obviously truth
to this, that people vote for the presidential candidate, not
usually so much for the vice president. It might help
in a tie, but it really isn't the case. You
have on one side the pick today of Tim Walls
from Minnesota, and he is by all accounts a liberal,
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he's progressive, and of course he is matching up with
Kamala Harris.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
You have JD.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Vance on the other side, who by all accounts is
pretty conservative, and he matches up with Donald Trump both
if you look at him. They're both fairly young, I mean,
younger than some of the antiquity, you know, the antiquated
people we've had run for president in the past. So
they're both relatively young. Walls is older, but they both
served in the military. They both buy all accounts of
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the people who talk to them, they're fine people. Walls
a coach to a sports and was a teacher and
the heck of a guy. And Vance's from all accounts
a heck of a guy. Both like the hunt. I guess,
so there's really there's nothing there that really outside of
the politics of it that makes you go, well, he's
a jerk, I don't want to vote for him, or
he's a jerk, so I'm not going to vote for
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Kamalo or.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
Whatever the case is.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
So this this really is going to come down to
politics with a little thin line in the middle of
people who maybe don't like either or like both equally.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
You know, Ben, that's probably the best analogy I've heard
of what we have coming up in the extremely long time. Yeah,
you know what's interesting, I've you know, spoke to my
colleagues from across the Aisle uh and and granted, you know,
we're we're in the chamber, we're debating, you know, we're
going back and forth on policy, and you know they're
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point our point, back and forth. It goes to a vote.
They have a super majority, so it goes through afterwards
in the hallways. You know, we'll sit back and my
looking and I say, you know, you that that bill
was terrible, right, I mean, and they're like, well, you know,
it wasn't the best. And so again, you know, there's
there's the theater of politics. There's the theater of politics,
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and then there's there's there's politics, you know in the hallway,
if you will where those type of things this this
you know by then if you really look at it
like you just said, uh, Vance and and Walts are
our fairly similar except for their political ideology. Uh you know,
maybe they maybe they would go out hunting together.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
Who knows.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I mean I've met some really great people up here
in my rural district, uh, going out to hunt and
have something like that in common. We definitely got to
try to get back to that. As I've said before,
we got to get back to it where where where
we are? So we're looking for that gotcha moment. We're
looking for that uh you know, little little snippet, you know,
the weird right, they're weird, you know kind of the thing.
(39:27):
Now that's it's just it's unfortunate. Uh, it's where we're at.
You know, there was a there was a little saying,
you know, people come up to you but refuse to
descend a single step to them. I think we really
would would be well served to get back to that
type of mentality. And I'll be honest with you, I
tried to do that. I try to live that. I
try to bring that back to Albany in our Democratic
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majority state.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
I wish I could keep you longer. We could probably
solve all the world's problems by midnight to night. I
think I bet.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
You we could. No, I don't bet you.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I know we could.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Senator Oberacker, is always a pleasure to talk to you,
and we will hopefully do it again. I don't want
to promise you again because I promised last time. I'd
run around like a chicken with my head cut off.
But always a pleasure of my friend.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Same here and listen, you kept your promise, your aces
with me.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
All right. I can run for president someday. Then I
keep my promises.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I'll be your running mate.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
All right, my friend, you got it.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
If I run for president, you're my running may All right, thanks,
that's Senator Peter Obaracker of New York. I'm not running
for president, so I don't have to stand by that promise.
But nonetheless, Ben Parker filling it for Dan Ray. We've
got a lot more to come. We'll bring you back
after the top of the hour in the news right
here on WBSD.
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome the next Vice President of the United States, Jim.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Wall being introduced by the current Vice President of the
United States, Kamala Harris. Good evening. I am Ben Parker,
and I'm filling in for Dan Ray. Let's do a
quick background check here before we get started, because some
may not be aware of what I normally do here
at w BZ, which is news in the afternoon from
two until six o'clock. You can hear me every weekday
(00:35):
afternoon here on WBZ. I occasionally fill in for Dan
Ray on night Side, another four hour shift. Thank you
very much, and I have actually filled in on the
radio for the person that I am about to introduce
as my first guest tonight. I am kind of calling
this this first hour, by the way, in case you're interested,
the Ben Parker Rolodex Hour, because a couple of special
(00:57):
guests are joining me who are inlight Rolodex by chance,
and the first one comes to us via New York State, Albany,
New York. In fact, however, you will recognize this person
not only from radio in Boston, but also television in Boston.
He's written a book. He is a world renowned celebrity.
(01:17):
Not right, it made that part up, but you do
know who he is, Doug Goudi, otherwise known to some
Bostonians as VB. Good evening, Sir.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Benjamin Parker, how are you, my friend?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I am very well, and of course a Massachusetts native
you are, and you've shuffled off to well, not Buffalo,
but halfway there, I guess, as you are doing mornings
on wg Y, which I can say because it's also
an iHeartRadio station, of which we are one as well,
and you do a lot of political commentary there, and
that's part of the reason that I wanted to get
you on tonight. But first of all, I want to
(01:51):
kind of give you a chance to throw out your
good will wishes to the Bostonians who perhaps miss you
on the radio and television here.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Well, first of all, three letter radio stations are where
it's at, as you a WBZ no. So we're doing
WGY out of here, New York's first radio station, by
the way, and we both celebrated our hundredth in the
same year as you well recall, so a couple of
legacy stations. That's number one, Number two I can't tell you, Parker,
(02:21):
how many times somebody says to me or I get
an email or a text or something that says, hey,
I love hearing you do my pillow on WBZ.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Everybody's listening to BZ all over and everybody's.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Talking about it. So yes, indeed, get your MyPillow products
and a great sale going on right now. But I
love being on BZ with that because it's great to
stay connected to the old home town.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah, that's where people that's where people hear you on WBZ.
What a great connection you have with the with the masses,
so to speak, as they later.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I don't want to get you sidetracked here, Parker, in
any way to give you an outsiders observation of Massachusetts.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
Of course you can.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
So I was there over the weekend my son had
a hockey tournament, and a little south of the city,
we were down and mostly in Rockland, a little bit
in Dedham. But I was amazed at not one, not two,
but three different overpasses on two separate highways. Did I
see people standing over on the bridge like from Stem
(03:23):
to Stern on the overpass with free Karen Reid signs
and from a new Yorker's perspective. I've been reading, I've
been following the case a little bit. I understand it
was national whatever, but I guess I didn't really understand
just how big and how passionate people are about it
there until I was there last weekend with the thing
not even going on. And I've never seen that before,
(03:45):
where people are up over overpasses with free whoever it is.
We got a bunch of national cases here in New
York sivin since i've I've never seen anything like that.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Maybe the people in New York on is good at
making signs. Did you ever think about that?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I don't think that. Whatever it is, I was like, wow,
look at how what I know. People are dug in
and they're on whatever side they're on there and whatever.
That's cool. But I've never seen people holding signs up
while there wasn't a trial going on.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Yeah there is.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
People are out on like a ninety five degree dead
sun Saturday, sweating their butts off making sure that the
message got out.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
There is a court hearing on Friday in this particular case.
And by the way, there's a couple of things about that. Well, one,
there was a mistrial as everyone knows, and they're going
to see if they're going to throw out the case
or not throw out the case. The probably not anyway,
so they'll go to trial again. So this will be
going on and on and on. Here's the one thing
that I find funny about the free Karen Read people
is she is free right now. And I always kind
(04:46):
of say, you know, maybe that's the wrong verbage right
now because she's not locked up. You know, when you
say free somebody, they're usually locked up. She's not because
she's awaiting another trial. But anyway, glad, that's what you
picked up on when you came to Massachusetts.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
That's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I've never seen it before.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Ever, you may never see it again. Let's get to
what we did have you on for tonight. Outside of
the fact that you're a wonderful human being, I know
you do a lot of the political talk when you
do the morning show, and clearly the big political talk today,
tomorrow and going forward will be that Kamala Harris has
(05:22):
now picked her running mate. There was a lot of
speculation who it might be or it wouldn't be, and
today Tim Walls, which, by the way, if you're a
conservative organization I've got the great headline.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
For you tomorrow, right, I'm waiting.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Yeah, Okay, here you go.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Democrats putting up walls not bad, you see, That's right,
that's good, right. I mean, that's that's what you would
use if you wanted to make the dem sound back anyway.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
I digress. A lot of people don't know a lot
about him.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
In fact, there's a recent poll I'll guess to that
number in a few minutes where where most people don't
know who this guy is Minnesota's Governor's not exactly unless
you're Jesse Ventura doesn't usually get a lot of play
in the media. Should we know more about this guy?
And what do we know? And what a you sensing
by who Kamala picked?
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Huh? All right, let's go through it one by one.
I mean, first of all, a pretty safe pick, pretty
don't want to ruffle too many feathers pick. I mean,
Shapiro was going to be the governor Pennsylvania, was gonna
be the one that said, Wow, she's gonna be a
little bolder here, She's gonna take a leadership position. She's
gonna say no, this is who I want, and I'm
staying firm. She didn't do that, and then they threw
(06:32):
him the bone today, Hey will you introduce us? Like,
oh wow, that's great. Nothing like getting the runner up
and having to introduce the person who's got the gig
you wanted. But he had to do that in Philly.
The interesting thing about that, and I think it's much
more interesting who wasn't pick than who was right now.
But they quickly got a story out, or there is
(06:52):
a story out. Whether they got it out or not,
I don't know, but that the story goes that she
didn't pick Shapiro because they thought that Shapiro was a
little too ambitious and he might try to outshine her.
And I thought, well, that's funny, because first of all,
she just was part of a thing to push the
(07:13):
guy that was ahead of her out so that she
could get the nomination. That's number one, number two. It's
an interesting story, except that there's another story out there
that says they didn't pick him because he's Jewish and
they had to play to the very very far left,
pro Palestinian anti israel As Van Jones on CNN Today said,
(07:36):
the very dark side, anti Semitic growing side of the
Democratic Party, and it does look like That's what they did.
Everybody on the inside told anybody who would listen that
Shapiro was the right choice, and they went with Walls.
The guy is in a state that they don't have
to worry about at all. When Pennsylvania's won, they very
much have to worry about. So it's a little bit
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curious that way, but it safe. I mean, he's not
He's not gonna get them into too much trouble. Is
he very liberal? Of course he is. Was he, you know,
very placating and very left during the riots in Minneapolis?
Of course he was. Did he put tampon's in high
school boys' bathrooms? You read that a thousand times already
(08:19):
since he got the nomination. I don't think that bothers
the base of the Democratic Party, though, so I think
there is a general rule happy with it. And again
the bar is so low because all they keep thinking
is we couldn't win with Biden Marris. At least theris
Walls gives us a chance, yea.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And he probably does give them a chance. And we'll
have to see how it plays out. And obviously the
Trump and Van's campaign's already going after the pair. I
want to play this we're gonna go to a break shortly.
Vb At Doug Goudy joins us this evening to talk
about the pick of Tim Walls as Kamala Harris's vice
presidential running bay. But this is Walls. He's from Minnesota,
(08:54):
or he lives in Minnesota. Now he came from Nebraska.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
But here he is.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
This is CUTT number sixty, and he is talking about
basically where he came from.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Cut sixteen.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
Minnesota's strength comes from our values, our commitment to working together,
to seeing past our differences, to always being willing to
lend a helping hand. Those are the same values I
learned on the family farm and tried to instill in
my students. I took it to Congress and of the
state capitol, and now Vice President Harris and I are
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running to take those very values to the White House.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
By the way, is anything more American than working on
the farm. I was working on the farm. I mean,
he came from a farm. He was a high school
of coach and a teacher, and served in the military,
which of course God bless him.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
So it's just kind.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Of weird right out. I get my values from working
on the farm. Just kind of strange, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I mean, yeah, pretty soon he's going to have a
sicker Minnesota accent than he already does. He's going to
do that Fargo thing, you bet you and all that.
But listen, he had the camouflage hat on during the
alleged call from Kamala. You saw that story they put
out to that he didn't answer the first time she
called this morning because it said no caller, no caller
(10:13):
ID so he didn't know who it was, so he
didn't answer it. Mmm. Sure, but he's just that folksy
and just that regular that gosh darn it, I'm not
going to answer that call because I don't know who
it is. So she had to call a second time. Sure,
and then he answered it for some reason, even though
it said the same thing, which is kind of weird.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Right, didn't say no caller idea and it's say potential
spam because maybe you know that that would scare somebody.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Right. Let me tell you. If the stories about Kamala
are true and the reason why her staff quit the
record pass because they don't like her, she wouldn't have
called a third time. Shapiro would have got that call.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
By the way, there was I think it was political
who had the story they said, And when you talk
about Shapiro, and obviously I've heard all the things that
you've already mentioned, but that he said, I don't want
to do this, he didn't want to be the vice
president because of whatever the pressure, or he wanted to
stay in Pennsylvania I think was actually the story. So
that actually sounds like the best of all of them.
(11:12):
He's too excitable, he's Jewish, I mean, wanting to stay
in his home state and do some good there.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
I mean, I almost you almost want to pat him
on the back.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
If that's the truth, it would kind of run counter
to the fact that the mayor of Philadelphia accidentally put
out that congratulations video a week ago because they set
it to run but put the wrong date in. Always
nice when that happened, But somebody told them it was
going to be him, And my guess is it probably
was going to be him at that time, and so
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that happened. So if he really didn't want it, that
seems your heart game pretty late, because he was lobbying
right up unto the end for it went. He was
with her on Sunday, So like, when did he decide
he didn't want to do it because there was no
indication of that before.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
And of course it was the celebration tonight. The rally
was in a Penncyila, and so that was where everybody
was thinking too that you know, if she's doing this
event in Pennsylvania, if she's going to Pennsylvania, if she's
gonna hang out in Pennsylvania, it's got to be someone
from Pennsylvania. And then well, maybe she just didn't want
to go to Minnesota for a rally.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
That's possible.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I remember Amy Klobashar doing her launch for president in
twenty twenty in Minnesota. Remember it was a driving blizzard
in the snow was gathering on her coat and she
looked like Jack Nicholson at the end of the shining.
To use a dated reference, it was so cold and
so ridiculous. That's probably put those off for like fifty years.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Now.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Let's not run the risk. Forget it. It could be
snowing there.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Uh VB otherwise known as Doug Gotti's joining us here.
He is hosting a morning show in Albany, New York
at WGY, another three call letter radio station, and we'll
continue with him talk about Kamala Harris's pick for vice
president today, Tim Walls from Minnesota. We got an action
packed night tonight, not that it's not usually action packed
on night's side, but we'll continue along. End of course,
(12:59):
we'll always take phone calls from you as well if
we want to sneak a few in here, So don't
forget to pick up that telephone and dial. Well, you
can just sit back and relax and listen to the show.
Six one, seven, four, ten, thirty is always the way
to join the conversation. It's Ben Parker in for Dan
Ray on nightsott on WZ.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Now Bent to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Light Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
I know a little something about that commitment to people.
I was born in West Point, Nebraska. I lived in Butte,
a small town of four hundred where community was a
way alive. Growing up, I spent the summers working on
the family farm.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
There's Tim Wallas. He's the pick fify Kamala Harris to
be her running mate as the vice presidential candidate for
the Democrats. They held a rally today in Philadelphia. Getting
a little bit excited, I gotta say and and VB.
Doug Gouty is with us. You probably know his name
from Boston Television and he works out of Albany in
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New York. Now also for an iheard radio station. I
gotta say, because he's from Minnesota and obviously there's there's
people there. Is it safe to say this may be
the biggest audience he's ever spoken in front of that
one time.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Probably yeah, and something like coming close to it anyway, Yeah,
he seems, by the way, has a long history of
people on the ticket but not actually get to the
finish line. So you go all the way back to Humphrey,
but they've got a number. It's kind of like Massachusetts,
like how many times are you gonna go back to
this well and not have it pay off for you?
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But they've got it. They Minnesota and Massachusetts very similar.
If you remember all the way back in the Reagan election,
Massachusetts was hanging in until the very end of eighty
four and then finally went Reagan. Minnesota didn't have dung
in there for Mondale, but those two states have a
very similar political history when you look at it.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I'm not gonna lie. I mean, I don't know a
ton about Tim Wallas. I mean I knew who he
was before he got picked, and I know I mean
a little bit about him, but I'm a historian of
Kim Wall, so we'll learn a lot about him. The
one thing I noticed in the rally today, and I
don't know if this is him or him trying to
be very excited. He had that the bubblehead thing going on.
(15:14):
He was Bumpa's head up and down quite a bit,
and he seemed very as he should be. He's been
picked to me with the vice president, right, but he
seemed very excited. He was doing an awful lot of
clap and smile and laughing, and he laughed at times
when I didn't think it necessarily required it.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Tim and Kamala got that in common, don't they.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, nervous laughter. Maybe, I don't know. I was that
was one of the things that I noticed. And of
course you don't always know what someone's thinking when you're
seeing that, but that was That was kind of what
I thought, and I said, boy, he's really excited to
be up on that stage, which he should be.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
None of us know that much about him, but we
have already heard. Oh, he was a high school teacher.
He was a football coach, looks like a guy who
probably ran a pep rally or two and stays mister
positive through the halls. How are we doing, Timmy, we're
going to get that grade in his class? You know
that kind of stuff when you bump into the guys.
So he gives off that vibe. The question is did
people grow tired of that very quickly? But apparently when
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he shakes hands with you, he goes, here's five good
ones for you. Like and see a little of that
goes a long way for me. If that guy's with
me in the office, I'm like, oh, he's in there
getting coffee. I think I'll wait because I can only
do the If I was any better, they'd be two
of me. I can only do so much of that.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
That's me.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I don't know how that plays nationally.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
Well, we'll see.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
And of course politicians are known for when they go
out of the stump right saying the same things over
and over again anyway, so we'll see if Tim Walls
tells the same dad jokes over and over again when
he's son, he's out there on the stump, listen before
we let you go, and I appreciate you joining me.
We have a couple of people who I think want
to say hello to you, because they probably don't want
to say hello to me. So let's take a couple
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quick phone calls. Here, We've got Bill and Dan versus. Bill,
Welcome to the Night's side.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
How are you good?
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Good? I do know a little bit about well during
the COVID deal. So I mean, you look at it,
the guy. You want to say, the deep blue state,
but there are some congressional districts. There's a few Republicans,
particularly up north because it's changed over time. They have
a lot of natural resources, the Iron Range up there,
which Trump let him do some mining, but again Biden
(17:16):
shut him down. Waltz is also in favor of that,
so he's decimated part of his state. They hold on
the power because they adventure Palitan area in the Twin Cities,
like a lot of blue states. But the two big
things that it was probably a test for the guy
was COVID, and to me, I think he failed and
he was super locked down and destroyed a lot of businesses,
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and like a lot of deep blue run states, he
was one of those real followers, Troupe believes. And the
other one was the riots. I mean he did nothing
for a week. And basically, I mean a lot of
small to medium businesses and decent people got burned out.
They did nothing about it. I didn't see a lot
of guys go to jail, So I don't know. I mean,
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it's fairful with the country stone to think that the
country is going to go for that ticket. At least
it's scary times, you know, now, well, I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
And you mentioned, you know, the things he did in
Minnesota during it after the COVID pandemic. But he won
reelection in twenty twenty two, which was smacked out in
the middle pretty much by about eight points over a doctor,
a physician, and a vaccine skeptic.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Maybe the people in Minnesota clearly like him enough to
elect them and then elect them again.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Well yeah, and that's fine, I mean that you look
at it. I don't think it worked out too.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
And this is.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Another thing that's happening too. If you look at the
census of the overall in COVID sped this up, and
of course with the boomers retiring, that also throws it
in there. But the bluer areas are just getting bluwer.
You know, people are segregating themselves. The ready areas are
getting red of so you know it's hard to find
these purple estates or down the middle. So you know,
(18:58):
you got some people that think that great. But I mean,
if you if you're looking at it from you know,
I'm a pro. You know, rise in timeh lifts all boats.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You know.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
JFK had it right.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Too bad.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
You won't find those guys anymore. Uh, you know type
of guy and Dan knows me. I usually call up
and that's fine. They re elected it, so they supported
those policies. And if you look at it with the
tax and the penalties and stuff, I mean, and they've
had population loss, like a lot of the bluest states.
Massachusetts is experience that. I think it's eleven hundred a
(19:30):
week where every two weeks to look at the latest
thumbus whatever they've said out of the state house. Ye
and uh so, uh you know that's basically the story.
I mean, it's not like, you know, if you were
looking at the top places for research development, what the
latest things happened in job growth? What are they doing
there or whatever? There's nothing in Minnesota other than may
(19:53):
be some tourism sometimes to hear that you would point
that and say, hey, you know that's a place that
we want to you know what I mean, Emil aid
or see. You know it's just not damn.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, yeah, I'm in a little of along, Billie. Do
you appreciate the call? Thanks for calling in. By the way,
they have a great plowing industry in Minnesota.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
I think so. I've heard Doug goutis with us.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
You want to follow up on anything he said about
Tim Walls.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Well, during COVID he did. Do you know in New
York were get a big thing with Andrew Cromo. We're
still trying to get a review of the COVID nursing
home issue. Wall did the exact same thing and later
said it wasn't a mistake to send nursing home patients
back in after they'd had COVID at the hospital. You know,
not pretty in any way, shape or form, for sure.
(20:36):
But listen, Trump said this the other day when he
was at the NABJ. He said, the vice presidency doesn't matter.
Nobody votes for the vice president. It doesn't affect any way,
shape or form. There's a couple of days of excitement,
people get all worked up, then it dies down and
nobody cares that's true here. I mean, does anybody who
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is voting for either Vance or Walls. Nobody. So we
do this and we'll get worked up about it, and
we'll talk about it for a couple of days, and
when they have their debate, we'll get worked up about
it and we'll talk about that too. But in the end,
people are voting for either Trump or Harris, or really
they're voting for Trump or not Trump. And that's how
it's going to be. And these two guys are going
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to be just joining a long, long list of people
that figured out what John nance Garner meant back in
the nineteen thirties when he said the Vice bresident, he's
not worth a bucket of warm wiz. Yeah, I mean
that's been a fact our whole lives.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Before I say goodbye, let's get Jane and Shrewsbury on
real quickly. Do you want to say hello to VB?
Or do you have a comment about Walls?
Speaker 8 (21:37):
I guess both?
Speaker 6 (21:38):
Oh good, Well, go ahead and do both.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Well. I only know who VB is from the commercials
for the Mipellar commercials.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Well he likes that then, but I don't.
Speaker 8 (21:49):
Yeah, okay, then I'll tell you I'm a little bit
upset because he's obviously conservative and you're talking about the Democrats,
and he's not really going to say anything nice about
the Democrats. So but I do have a couple of thoughts.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
All right, I hate to rush you against it, Go ahead.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
Tim Walls is from a conservative district and he served
like six terms as in Congress in a red district.
And when Trump is now saying the vice president doesn't matter,
that's because JB. Vance isn't really striking it rich with everybody.
And we have to think about Trump's age. You know,
everyone's talking about Biden's age, but Trump, unfortunately is an
(22:27):
old man also, so people are concerned about who's vice president.
So I guess I'm kind of disagreeing with everything. And
also as far as laughing, Donald Trump never laughs unless
he's making fun of somebody else. So who do you
want to have a beer with? Someone who can actually
laugh or somebody who's just mocking everybody.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I would have a beer with whoever's paying for the beer.
That's who I want to have a peer with.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Well, you're not going to have a beer with Trump
because he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah, I had to let Jane go because we are
up against the clock and we have another guest coming on,
who actually is is again from my rolodex and from
your neck of the woods. So why don't you tune
in on the iHeartRadio app and listen, vvloy listen.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
It's a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
And I know because you came on, I owe you
some some skybars or something, so we'll get them to.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
I'm about a box, dude. I think they come twelve too.
A box. Let's go step it up.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Half a box. I'll buy a box and take half
of me. All right, my friend, Thanks Doug. All right,
I'll see you later. All right, there's there's Doug Gotty.
He's a VB and of course you may know him
from his RKAO days or on Fox twenty five or
from w g Y. Maybe you listen on the iHeart
Radio app. He's part of the family. Big hug for him,
thanks for joining us. He does a morning show in Albany,
New York. And we'll have another guest coming up as
(23:35):
we'll continue to talk about this pick by Vice President
Kamala Harris picking her vice presidential nominee who she wants
to be the sidekick in twenty twenty four and on
the ballot. And we'll have that continuing as we go
along here on a evening with Ben Parker filling in
for Dan Ray on Night Side.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
We're back Ben Parker filling in for Dan Ray. I
love to hear from you if you'd like to chime
in and talk about the pick today. Tim Walls, the
Minnesota governor chosen by Kamala Harris as the vice presidential
running mate for her campaign. She officially yesterday got the
number of votes needed from delegates in order to be
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the presidential nominee by the Democrats. So Kamala Harris officially
and we knew that anyway. Obviously from the Democratic side,
there's lots of support for this pick, as you would expect.
I mean, most diehard Democrats are going to vote for
whoever Kamala Harris picked. And as VP pointed out when
we spoke to him in the last half hour, people
(24:48):
aren't voting generally for the vice presidential candidate, right, They're
voting for the candidate for president. And oh, by the way,
here is the vice presidential candidate. So you know if
you like if you like the p and running, then
you'll like the person who's running with her.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
That's kind of the philosophy. But you can always give
us a call here at WBZ and.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Enjoy the conversation six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.
I did mention that I do the news in the
afternoon here on w BZ, but I've also filled in
for Dan Ray, and I've also filled in for Doug
Douty at WGY in Albany. And that, by the way,
is where I met our first guest. And there is
a second guest, they should say, because Doug was our
first guest. But there's a backstory to this, and I
(25:28):
want to tell it.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
First.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I told you this was Ben Parker's Rolodex hour. He's
in my rolodex. That's how we got to this guy.
But really, in all seriousness, last time I filled in
for Doug in New York, I had on the show
with me a state Senator from New York, Peter Oberacker,
and I told him next time I filled in, Mah
he would have to be the co host. And then
I didn't fill in again in Albany, and so here
(25:50):
I am in Boston, and I said, you know what,
I'm going to call Senator Obaacker and see if he
wants to come in, because there's a couple of reasons why.
So first of all, Senator Obraracker, I never back out
on a promise.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
And so here you are back with me again. Welcome
to the show, Welcome to Boston.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Well, thank you. And Ben, I thought maybe I did
something to run you out of Albany, but apparently now
that's always.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
A good thing.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Apparently I did something to run me out of Albany.
That's that's that's what happened. You are You are a
senator in New York State, senator, and I want people
to understand that because one of the things that I
find interesting about you, and not you, but you're your legislator, legislator,
is you're a lot like Massachusetts. You're you're a Republican,
and you're in a democratically controlled state, and therefore it
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must make things a little harder for you to get
any kind of traction unless it's something so uh unanimously
approved by everybody.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
Is that as a senator?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Uh, did you go home at night and hit your
head against the wall and go ho, Am I going
to crack this open.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
You know?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Well, well number one, Ben, great, great to be back
talking with you, and thank you for the chance to
allow right on that. You know, my wife said to
me one time then she says, you're really not not
too smart. And because you are running for the state
Senate in a democratically, you know, controlled state, so there
may be some credence to that. But I'm also going
(27:15):
to put it to you this way. You know, I
was a business made up until actually December, which I
retired out of a company i'd started in December. And
I have learned. I have learned to work with those
who you wouldn't maybe normally go afterwards and have a
beer with right or maybe sit down for dinner with
(27:36):
because the ultimate goal is to is to try to
get something completed in a positive way, in a positive
fashion that that probably really kind of kind of puts
politics the atmosphere in Albany. I have worked across the aisle,
tried to work across the isle with with with all
of those, some better than others, but I was actually
(27:58):
very happy with the number of bills that I was
able to pass this last session in New York.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I want to ask you this, Senator before we get
on to Vice President Harris's pick of Tim Walls today.
You look at politics, you see it, and you've got
the Democrats, and you've got the Republicans, and you've got
a Democratic governor. And you look, you listen to the
radio and watch TV. You see the atmosphere that we're
living in here.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
When you as a.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Lawmaker, it's got to make you, I don't know it
is to make you sad, make you mad, make you crazy.
I mean, something's got to give here so that we
can get back to doing the business of all Americans,
by all Americans, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
You know, you know, Ben, I have the fifty percent
district which I represent, which is all over parts of
seven counties, almost the size, almost the size of the
state of Connecticut. And you know, being from a very
rural background and rule upbringing, we have kind of like
a country with them, if you will, and I'll equate
(29:02):
it to this. There's an old saying up here where
I'm from. It says, be sure to taste your words
before you spit them out. And I wish we would
do more of that in Albany. It seems sometimes that
you know, we're looking for the gotcha moment, We're looking
for that little sharp you know, retort to a debate
or something of that nature, when in reality you're right.
(29:23):
We may disagree, and believe me, I do. I disagreemently
with my colleagues from across the aisle, but I do
it respectfully. I do it respectfully, and I really think
that that's something that we need to bring back to
politics as a whole, is to remember that, yeah, I
may not go have a beer with you, and I
may not even you know, give you a birthday card,
(29:44):
but by golly, we need to spind some commonality, some
common ground to work out these issues for those that
I represent in my district.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
A house divided against itself cannot stand. Those are pretty famous.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Words, are we.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I mean, you look at I'm gonna have you step
outside of New York a little bit. Look all across
this great land of ours? Are we in danger of
not standing? Because we are a house so divided against ourselves?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I think so, I really do, and you know I
can maybe maybe I'll quit it to you this way too.
I mean, if you've noticed with President Trump, I mean,
he could basically say he could and he could basically
say have a nice day, and you know, no problem.
But if he was also you know, to say enjoy
(30:33):
the next twenty four hours and not sound vaguely threatening.
Do you see what I'm saying. I mean, it's kind
of the way you can say something, you can put
it forth. It's not the way it's intended. But man,
I'm telling you, lately, it seems like these scenes get twisted,
these things get converted, These things get put through this
meat grinder. And I'm a sausage maker, if you remember
(30:55):
by trades, so I know that very well. But it
gets put through that meat grinder, and it's there strictly
to divide us. It is strictly there to divide us,
not to unite us.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
So now we have so now we have Tim Walls
being picked by Kamala Harris to be her running bait
uh and obviously some some grenades have already been launched
in that direction by Republicans and some will be launched back.
And we know Walls and Harris called Vance weird, and
so we've got all this again, pseudo name calling, which
(31:25):
is kind of what politics is to a degree, but
how I guess how do we go forward here? And
I'll have you kind of twofold here, how do we
go forward and stop having everybody just make you know, names,
call names of each other. And what's your take on,
uh Tim Walls because you mentioned, you know, you're in
(31:46):
kind of farming country and here's a guy who comes
from farming country.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Right right. Well, you know the interesting thing, you know,
we we had had a very busy day by the way,
in my Senate district, and so you know I heard
late that uh who who the pick was for Kamalaw
and uh, you know, I'll be honest with you, I
didn't know much about him really to start with. I mean,
I knew, you know, where he's from, and I knew
(32:11):
some parts of it, like you know, like you just said,
the farmer. But basically what I've heard and what I've
I've been able to determine is that I believe he's
even farther extreme left than than she is. And it's
just an interesting diconomy that uh Shapiro, you know, from
from from Pennsylvania wasn't pick for it. All along, we've
(32:33):
kind of been hearing that he was in the forefront
in the forerunning for this, so I'll accredit this way.
The chess board has been set right, the uh, the
pieces are in play. It's unfortunate that this has turned
into these bombs throwing incidents back and forth. I would
like to see us get back to being an adult,
(32:54):
or we're more appropriately been, back to being a politician
and the I have a friend of mine from Ireland,
love him. His name is Marcus Mallan, and he says
to me one day, he says, Peter, he says, if
you want to be a great politician, you need to
tell someone to go to hell and them look forward
to the journey. And that's kind of where we're at.
We need to get back to ye. You know, even
(33:14):
with Reagan, who are absolutely adored, he had a way
of kind of in a tug and cheek kind of
way to throw a little fun at or throw these
little jabs at. But they were mostly done with humor,
and there's none of that anymore. It's strictly venom, it's
strictly pointed, and it's there to definitely divide us.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
You know, a lot of people talk about a couple
of people you mentioned Reagan, but one of our locals
from around here. Tip O'Neil, who was the speaker for
so long, and he had a way and during the
Reagan era too, with being able to reach across the
aisle disagree without being disagreeable, which is a huge thing.
And I don't know if there's maybe there needs to
(33:52):
be a course for politicians where they learn how to
be that way.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
And I know plenty of people.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Look, I know plenty of people who don't like Reagan
and like Tip O'Neil or vice versa.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
But they understood that these two guys who.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Were basically sitting on the opposite side of the aisle
throwing things, you know, at each other, their opponents, but
at the same time they were able to sit down
and go, Okay, how do we work this out? And
I wish we could get there again.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
There is, you know, then there is there is. I
believe in my heart of hearts that if one requirement,
one one requirement to be a legislator at any level
is at some point in your life you have either
tried or did run a business. Because I'm gonna tell you, guys,
I go back to it. Business is always about, you know,
(34:41):
trying to find that common ground right that commonality. Again,
I may not particularly like this individual, but hey, you're
going to purchase my waar is you're gonna do this? Yeah? Okay,
I benefit you benefit you know. That's the basis for everything.
I believe that if we were all either businessmen and
or women. I'm telling you, I think things would change in.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Our Peter Robacker is a senator from the Great State
of New York or state Senator. I met here when
I filled in on wg Y in Albany, New York,
and I'm glad that he's joined us tonight. We're gonna
have a few more minutes to talk to him, so
we'll bring him back. We've got to take a break
here nightside with Dan Ray. Dan is not here. I
am Ben Parker. I normally do afternoon news here on
WBZ from two to six in the afternoon. By all means,
(35:22):
feel free to tune in if you don't. And I
should tell you that if you ever want to listen
to us wherever you are not able to hear us
on the radio, you can download the iHeartRadio app and
there we will be coming right out of your device
easy as that. We'll be right back. Stay with us
Ben Parker filling in for Dan Ray on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Now back to Dan Ray line from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Dan Ray is not here by any windows or otherwise.
He is on vacation on assignment. We'll say that sounds
so much better. Ben Parker filling in for Dan Ray.
We've got lots of stuff coming up later on tonight.
We are going to talk to a local Olympic hero
as we talk about the Olympics coming up at the
ten o'clock hours, So stay with us for that. But
we had a lot of stuff going on between now
and then. And joining me this evening for about five
(36:10):
six minutes more is Peter Oberacker. He is a state
senator out of the Great State of New York, and
we used to talk when I was filling in for
Doug Goudie on wg Y and Albany and made a
point to reach out to him because I owed him
another appearance. I told him we were going to have
him on again, and then I didn't fill in again
in Albany. And so thanks for joining us. I really
(36:30):
do appreciate it, Senator, and I want to ask you this.
We're talking a little bit about general politics. But the
pick today by Kamala Harris of Tim Walls.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
As as vice presidential candidate.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Doug mentioned this, and I think there is obviously truth
to this, that people vote for the presidential candidate, not
usually so much for the vice president. It might help
in a tie, but it really isn't the case. You
have on one side the pick today of Tim Walls
from Minnesota, and he is by all accounts a liberal,
(37:04):
he's progressive, and of course he is matching up with
Kamala Harris.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
You have JD.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Vance on the other side, who by all accounts is
pretty conservative, and he matches up with Donald Trump both
if you look at him. They're both fairly young, I mean,
younger than some of the antiquity, you know, the antiquated
people we've had run for president in the past. So
they're both relatively young. Walls is older, but they both
served in the military. They both buy all accounts of
(37:30):
the people who talk to them, they're fine people. Walls
a coach to a sports and was a teacher and
the heck of a guy. And Vance's from all accounts
a heck of a guy. Both like the hunt. I guess,
so there's really there's nothing there that really outside of
the politics of it that makes you go, well, he's
a jerk, I don't want to vote for him, or
he's a jerk, so I'm not going to vote for
(37:50):
Kamalo or.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
Whatever the case is.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
So this this really is going to come down to
politics with a little thin line in the middle of
people who maybe don't like either or like both equally.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
You know, Ben, that's probably the best analogy I've heard
of what we have coming up in the extremely long time. Yeah,
you know what's interesting, I've you know, spoke to my
colleagues from across the Aisle uh and and granted, you know,
we're we're in the chamber, we're debating, you know, we're
going back and forth on policy, and you know they're
(38:25):
point our point, back and forth. It goes to a vote.
They have a super majority, so it goes through afterwards
in the hallways. You know, we'll sit back and my
looking and I say, you know, you that that bill
was terrible, right, I mean, and they're like, well, you know,
it wasn't the best. And so again, you know, there's
there's the theater of politics. There's the theater of politics,
(38:46):
and then there's there's there's politics, you know in the hallway,
if you will where those type of things this this
you know by then if you really look at it
like you just said, uh, Vance and and Walts are
our fairly similar except for their political ideology. Uh you know,
maybe they maybe they would go out hunting together.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
Who knows.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I mean I've met some really great people up here
in my rural district, uh, going out to hunt and
have something like that in common. We definitely got to
try to get back to that. As I've said before,
we got to get back to it where where where
we are? So we're looking for that gotcha moment. We're
looking for that uh you know, little little snippet, you know,
the weird right, they're weird, you know kind of the thing.
(39:27):
Now that's it's just it's unfortunate. Uh, it's where we're at.
You know, there was a there was a little saying,
you know, people come up to you but refuse to
descend a single step to them. I think we really
would would be well served to get back to that
type of mentality. And I'll be honest with you, I
tried to do that. I try to live that. I
try to bring that back to Albany in our Democratic
(39:50):
majority state.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
I wish I could keep you longer. We could probably
solve all the world's problems by midnight to night. I
think I bet.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
You we could. No, I don't bet you.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I know we could.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Senator Oberacker, is always a pleasure to talk to you,
and we will hopefully do it again. I don't want
to promise you again because I promised last time. I'd
run around like a chicken with my head cut off.
But always a pleasure of my friend.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Same here and listen, you kept your promise, your aces
with me.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
All right. I can run for president someday. Then I
keep my promises.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I'll be your running mate.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
All right, my friend, you got it.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
If I run for president, you're my running may All right, thanks,
that's Senator Peter Obaracker of New York. I'm not running
for president, so I don't have to stand by that promise.
But nonetheless, Ben Parker filling it for Dan Ray. We've
got a lot more to come. We'll bring you back
after the top of the hour in the news right
here on WBSD.
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