October 30, 2025 • 41 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's m vidio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Well, before we get to our eleven o'clock hour, I
want to send out a very special happy birthday to
a longtime Nightside listener who celebrates a very special birthday tomorrow,
Dot Harrigan in Medford. Tomorrow, October thirty first, will be
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Dot's birthday. It's one of those birthday out you never
tell a lady's age, so I'm not going to do
that to her, but you just I got to tell
you it's a very special milestone she is reaching tomorrow.
She's one of our best callers and our best listeners.
I think most of you know Dot from Medford over
the years, but she is She's someone who always has
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a very strong opinion, whether she agrees with me or not.
But she's delightful as a caller and delightful as a person.
So Dot, I hope you'll listen tonight. If you get
a chance to just call in. I won't put you
on the air, but just let my producers know that
you heard this greeting. I kept it in the back
of my mind and we talked about the importance of
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October thirty first, to you, and I just couldn't let
the night go by without wishing you a very happy birthday.
And I hope some of the people who our mutual
friends are also listening at this point as well. Now
here's what I'm not sure what you folks want to
do tonight. It is a horrific rainy night here in
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New England. And if any of you want to call
in and tell me how bad the weather is where
you are, if you're driving, please be careful, okay, if
you're out there, it's pretty easy to hydroplane on a
night like tonight. Just was listening to the rain outside
and where I am, it's coming down really in buckets.
I heard one of the weather forecasters tonight said, but
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we could get, you know, a couple of inches of rain.
That's a lot of rain in a relatively short period
of time. So when we talk about that, the other
thing which I wanted to mention is the last couple
of days. Bill Gates, the brilliant founder of Microsoft or
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co founder of Microsoft, who has spent billions of dollars
of his own money to raise the alarm about the
dangers of climate change. According to The New York Times,
to a piece by David Gellis in Yesterday's New York Times,
is now pushing back against what he calls a doomsday
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outlook and appears to have shifted his stance on the
risks posted by a warming planet. He released a lengthy
memo on Tuesday, according to David Gellis in The New
York Times yesterday, and he sought to tamp down the
alarmism that Gates said many people use to describe the
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effects of rising temperatures. We have talked about climate change
on this program for periodically for many years, and I
must admit to you, I'm not convinced either way. Okay,
I don't know. I don't know. I do know this.
The Earth has been around five billion years, and it
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has gone through cold cycles and warm cycles. It is
probably today it has more human beings on the Earth
than ever before. And human beings do generate activity, and
we know that fossil fuels also generate activity. But in
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my opinion, my opinion, we will survive as planet Earth.
Gates has called for redirecting efforts away from climate change
alarm okay, because he now feels that perhaps the problem
is not as acute as he thought. It was, and
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he's saying that the efforts on Earth should be redirected
toward improving lives in the developing world. Now, I got
to tell you, when I went to Catholic grammar school,
deep into the last century, they were always passing around
a little cardboard box in Catholic Grammar school to donate
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to the Indian missions or donate to the African missions.
And those of us were pulling nickels and dimes out
of our pockets and doing what we could. And this
was the nuns, the Sisters of Charity of Nazareth. So
it seems to me like Bill Gates now has wasted
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a lot of money, a lot of money on climate change.
Climate is always changing. We know that Bill Gates and
I are fairly close in age, maybe a year or
two younger. I'm not exactly sure of his age, but
he must remember time in Newsweek magazine articles in the
nineteen seventies that talked about the coming ice age. Those
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were articles in the New York in the Newsweek and
Time magazine, which were very important weekly magazines back in
the day. They were as important as any other major outlet.
They probably were read by more people than the New
York Times, of the Boston Globe, of the Miami Hera,
of the La Times. And I think it takes a
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big man in this case, Bill Gates. I'm not saying
he's changing his position, but modifying his position. And all
of the people like AOC and Bernie Sanders and Al
Gore and Greta Tundberg who basically have been telling us
for years and years and years that if this doesn't happen.
I was reading the Boston Globe today they were talking
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about how that this flooding on More Boulevard. Well, I'll
bet you there's been flooding on Morrissey Boulevard for a
long time. I had said to all of you a
long time ago that when the smartest president in the
history of the United States bought a sea level eighteen
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acre plot on Martha's vineyard shortly after he left the
White House, I always felt that if Barack Obama would
do that, and he probably had as good of information
as anybody as a former president of the United States,
that the threat of the earth literally collapsing, as some
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of the alarmists used to say, is not is not real.
So bottom line is we need to monitor this. I
commend Bill Gates, even though he's saying I'm not you know,
saying that it's not a problem, but it will not
lead to humanities to eyes in Bill Gates's uh, this decision.
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If you want to talk about that, that would be great.
Six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one
seven nine three nine no no no no, six point
seven nine three, one ten thirty. Too many numbers will join.
We will rejoin the conversation after the break. I have
Phil in Everett, Judy, and Bellingham, and I'd love to
hear from you on this or any other topic. I'm
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even willing to go open lines here for the balance
of the night if you want to talk about climate
change and Bill Bill Gates's The problem I have sometimes
is I read too much during the day and I
see these articles that other people maybe haven't seen. So
I'm at a little bit of an advantage and I'm
trying to share breaking information and all of that with you,
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but I know that sometimes you're hesitant to call because
the information is is so fresh. Six one seven, two, five,
four ten thirty as the only the only lines open
right now, We'll be right back. This is a very
quick break on Night's Side, and we'll get back to
phone calls. If you want to call and open up
any line of conversation, you're welcome to do that as well.
Back on nights Side after.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
This, It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Okay, let's go to calls. I'm gonna start it off
with Phil and Effett. Phil welcome first up this hour. Gretahead, Phil.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, Hi Dan, it's uh, your old friend. It's almost
a twenty sixth anniversary from the Beth is A Hospital
when we're coming out with my wife and my child,
my little baby Phills.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Remember you're telling me, I'm Luke. If you're telling me
we met somewhere.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Oh yeah, yeah at the Beth Israel House Hospitals.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Oh yeah, absolutely, I remember that.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yes, yeah, because you said I have a cam corder
just like that, you know, let me take a video.
This is your wife and daughter. Yeah, and you were
there on a story and you walk this to the car.
And I met you a few times. I met your
son Dan, Yeah, in front of the postal service when
you were there covering the tax day when he was
on a school vacasion. It was, you know, great, Holy.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
How's your daughter doing it. So she's twenty six years old.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Today in a month around around Thanksgiving. That's she was
born on the twenty sixth, so she'll be uh.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Twenty sixth of November. November you mean.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Okay, gotcha right, So she's going to be twenty sixth
on the twenty sixth.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And how is she doing it? What's what? What is?
Where did life take her? Is she out of school?
Is she working?
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah? Well yeah, yeah, yeah, she yeah, she's she was,
you know, unfortunately, I've been a bit of strange from uh,
you know, my my kids and my wife at this
present time. But that okay, yeah, yeah, not as much
as me. But uh yeah she uh, last thing, she
was working at the staples and so forth. But she
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was attending you mass, uh she was. She was going
to get into engineering.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
And but.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I've you know, my text her hearing the happy birthday.
But unfortunately I don't get any responses. But what can
you do?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
That is tough? I mean, that's you know, no matter
how how deep the estrangement should be. I'm sorry. I
am very sorry to hear that. If you're calling to
renew acquaintances, it's I've been wonderful to hear your voice.
And I remember that day very well. I absolutely do.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, it's fine because then I caught up with you
and Revere, you know, one evening when it was late
one night, when she was just a little baby.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I brought them over.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, tell her, yeah, tell her that Uncle Dan said hello,
that you guys need to get back together and and
uh and take care of whatever disagreements exist and uh
and get on with life because life is too short.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
The best thing, though, is when you had us all
over to the studio with my mother when she turned
and was honor like eightieth. Uh it was our eightieth
birthday and you had a stere as the guests, my
wife and like my three daughters.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I remember that as well. I do.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I do, yeah, oh yeah. It was great and you
signed all there. We had T shirts and we left
your autograph and everything was just very nice, you know,
very pleasant. My mom would always appreciate that. But unfortunately
she passed away three years ago on Mother's Day and uh,
you know, but she she made it to ninety five.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
She just what a great run, what a great run?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Well, Phil, I hope that you do well. You know,
I'm still doing the radio show. As you can tell.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I know you know what, you know what I wish
she did, Dan, I wish you fow you had in
and you ran for may or of Boston. That's what
That's why I wish you did, because Boston could use
a man like you of ethics and morality who can
get things done and who those people And it is
for you know, for the city and for our state
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and everything that's going on here, you know, because it's
just a mess, really.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Phil, it is a mess. But that means we'll always
have something to talk about. Look, please keep in touch.
I I do my shows now remotely since COVID time.
But you know, you hopefully have my number. And if
you don't have my numbers, stay on the line and
my producer will give you my direct line they haven't.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Okay, all right, I will do that and I'll give
you a call and we can chat some more.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Sure. Thanks, thanks so much, and and please be well
and and and get back talking to people. There are
too many families.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
That I always used to send your message. I always
used to send your messages. God bless your brother on
the on the chats and when you uh when it
used to come to on my phone. I but uh,
unfortunately had phone issues and I you know, I didn't
have you coming up on my phone like you like
it used to.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Well, you know what, they'll give me my direct line
and I'll get back in touch with you. Okay, thanks Bill,
hanging there, my friend hanging there back back at you,
all right? So I would, Oh Phil, Phil, Phil, Phil,
I just disconnected you inadvertently. Phil, Phil, if you're listening,
call back, call back, Uh six one seven nine three
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one ten thirty. That was my fault, not my producer's fault. Phil.
Call back six one seven nine three one ten thirty
and we'll get you my direct line. Okay, that was
my fault. Please call back Phil, And I'm it's one
of those nights folks. The let me go to PEG
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up in New Hampshire. Peg. You were next on night side.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Hi Dan, how are you?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I'm okay, I inadderently. I hope that's Phil calling back guy,
so please give him my direct line. You have it there.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I just caught his call.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Very good.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
I want to say happy birthday to Dot tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Oh excellent. How do you know that that Dot's birthday
is exactly I mean? I just mentioned. Okay, well she
has a lot of friends, you know.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
And uh, yeah, no, I don't know Dot personally, but
she's called in a few times and I've had a
call back call in after her and say I want
to hire her.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, no, she is. She's quite the quite the call
a person. She's hitting a very significant number tomorrow. So
that's well.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I'm not going to say anything either, but you have
mentioned before she has mentioned I think how old she
is on the radio, and when you said a birthday tomorrow,
I'm like, wow, good for her.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
So I have she has done that, but that's her
decision to do, not mine. So I get into enough
trouble as it is. I just inadvertently hung up on Phil. Guys,
I hope that that is Phil calling back on that
number there, So give him my direct line and put
him on hold. If you don't have it, I'll give
you my direct line so he'll have it. Okay, how
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are you doing you?
Speaker 5 (15:10):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Happy birthday to Dot. Are you out there tonight? You
normally are in the car at.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
This hour, That's what I was going to tell you. No,
I get home. That's why I don't call during earlier hours.
I usually get home at about twenty minutes of eleven.
I didn't get home until about five minutes of eleven
from work because of the rain and New Hampshire. I
didn't realize, but a lot of the smaller towns don't
have street lights, so it's very dark up here, and
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the leaves are terrible. So I just I take my time.
But I've been driving for a very long time. I
know to take my time.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So just active. When you leave work, normally, how long
is it take you to get home?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
About a half no hour. So I usually leave work
somewhere between ten ten and ten twenty today I think
I was walking out the door at about ten twenty ten. Yeah,
about ten twenty.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Okay, so normally normally you said, I did ten minutes
to get home? How long tonight?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Twenty twenty five? But it was it was eleven something.
But you know, you come in, you take a jacket off,
you say hi to the cat.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Okay, So I.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Looked at my watch it was eleven something. But and
the other thing I wanted to tell you is Bill
Gates is seventy years old. I looked it up. He
was born October twenty eighth, nineteen fifty five.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, that's I kind of figured it. I should have
known that. As a matter of fact, I think I
had read an article that it was as his on
his seventieth birthday. But it was kind of a surprising piece.
If you read the piece in the New York Times,
he is, you know, sort of backing down from you know,
some of the things that were said by him and
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others that you know, if we don't do this by
the year twenty fifteen, this lake will dry up. With
this glacier will milt and I am a firm believer
that that we go in cycles and that the climate
is always changing.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
But I think it is.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But I also think that it takes a lot of
courage for someone like him, who has sort of staked
out a position to admit, Hey, I might have over
I might have overstated a little bit, I think is
what he was really saying.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
So, oh, I definitely want to read that article, because
you're right. I mean, he's been stating that climate change,
climate change, climate change for so long. To hear him
say that, Well, the funny thing about it, you got you.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Got to I have to give Gates on Bill Gates
the credit. I don't know that he ever made any
money on that. I think that he's spent a lot
of money and has contributed a lot of money to causes. Yeah.
But but I think, for example, Al Gore, uh, I
think really has has in his post presidency lived as
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the you know, the climate climate change warrior, if you
know what I'm saying. Yeah, he so, yeah, so I
we'll say, I mean, I hope Gates is right. I
don't know. I mean, I've listened to all of these
these you know, cataclysmic predictions, and we seem to have
gone by. There were predictions made around the turn of
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the century that if we didn't get our act in
order within twenty five years or twenty or fifteen or
ten years, and none of those things seemed to come true.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
So one of them.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah. So that's that's my thought on it.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
And I agree with you. I remember listening about we're
going to have another ice age again. I'm only I'm
a couple of years younger than you, but not by
a lot. I remember those you know, the I say,
I was in.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Law school at the time, back in the mid seventies,
and it was you were reading that stuff and it
was like, oh my god, you know where we are
sitting right now. You know, millions of years ago, we
would be under a glacier. That's that's what New England was.
I think that's why many of the rock formations, and
I have friends of mine in the scientific community who
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do not did not want to express their point of
view on this because they would have been you know,
they would have been battered from pillar to post. They
would have been made fun of. I mean it was like,
you read all these things that I never understood ninety
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seven percent of scientists. Well, first of all, who's the
ninety seven percent? Who's the scientist? So I was I
have a healthy skepticism towards just about everything, including this.
Hey Peg, great to hear your voice. I'm so happy
that you got home safe and sound, and please continue
to listen to lie side and thanks for calling in tonight.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I will calcolate it. Dan, have a good evening.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
All right. We're going to take news here and I
got will in Long Island, I get Gary and nor Bridge.
I got some roof for you. We can go open
lines here. We can talk about if you're out driving around,
how bad it is in your neck of the woods.
Thank god, however bad it is in your neck of
the woods within the sound of my voice is not
nearly as bad as it was in Jamaica, Haiti and
the Dominican Republican particularly Jamaica, looks like that island nation
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has really taken a tremendous hit and Cardios. I mean,
I have been to Jamaica. It's a beautiful island. A
lot of poverty. Wealth, yes, but a lot of poverty.
And you have to feel for those folks down there.
Join the conversation here. We can also go open lines.
You can talk about anything you want. We dealt with
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two issues earlier tonight. If you want to follow up
on what we talked about with Mike Dian about these
new traffic signals, I think they're confusing traffic signals. I
think they're going to cause more accidents than they prevent.
We talked with Andrew Hale, a professor of law Northeast
University Law School, and you talk to raising children and
raising them safely and raising them showing them that they
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can take a little bit of risk, but introducing them
to risk and responsibility at the same time. We'll take
a break. It's it's the eleven thirty news on the
button coming back on night Side six one seven, two,
five four ten thirty or six one seven nine three
one ten thirty. You can introduce any topic you would
like coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Night Side with Dan Ray, I'm delling you Bzy Boston's
news Radio for.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
The only line available right now is six one seven
nine three one ten thirty. Let me go next to
Gary in Northbridge, Massachusetts. Hey Gary, welcome next on Nightside.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Hey Dan, I've known a long times with night Talkia.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Well that's not my fault. We're here for five nights
a week, four hours of night Gary, You're welcome any night,
go right ahead. What's on your mind tonight? What what
prompted you to pick up that? What prompted you to
pick up the phone tonight?
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Well, Bill Gates, First thing, if I may, I think
it's I think it's you know, it's big when people
admit that they're wrong.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I guess.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
But I don't know what more proof people need than
decades of being told that within a decade the world
is gonna end, and it doesn't that they need to.
I think he's late to the game. I think he
just thinks she looks foolish. At this point, and he does,
and they all do. I mean, look, eventually, the world,
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the earth is going to say enough for you humans,
and it's going to shake us free long before I'm
sure it's gone. And and it is what it is,
But you know, I was, I really what prompted me
to call it the open line was the just the
the the whole thing, with the snap and with the
everybody's debating who should be on this program, who should
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be on that program? And while I think it's a
great debate to have, I think that what's happening is
that we've lost sight that, let's say that that thirty
percent of the people that are on these programs shouldn't be.
They're abusing the government, You, me, and everybody else, is
what that means. I get it. But in a crisis situation,
you can't ignore the seventy percent that sit there. And
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I think that both the Democrats and the Republicans are
doing just that they're so dug in in what they
want to do that they're forgetting that next Tuesday, Martha
that lives in anywhere Massachusetts is eighty six years old
and has no food coming.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
And they y, look, Gary, I address this the other night.
I'd love to know what you think ofout it. First
of all, the Republicans have been voting to open the government, yeah,
and to end the shutdown. The Democrats have been voting
against it. And many of the Democrats have said, well,
the fact that people are suffering, that's our leverage here.
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I was very critical of Governor Healey the other night.
We have eight point eight billion dollars in the Massachusetts
Rainy Day Fund. Okay, Now it may not be a
rainy date on Saturday when SNAP benefits end, if they
do for you and me, but it's going to be
a real rainy day for people who lose the SNAP benefits.
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And at a minimum, I think the governor made a mistake,
and there should have been an editorial in the Boston
Globe urging the governor to invade the eight point eight
billion dollars, which by the way, is much more than
we have ever had in a rainy day fund. And
if we have to spend a couple of hundred million
dollars of that, that's a fraction of that. Okay, it's
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like two or three percent of it. She's moving some money.
I don't know what she's doing. I heard her the
other day asking people to send money to the United Way.
It's a great idea to send money to the United Way.
But she has eight point eight billion dollars. What are
we going to do with it, folks? I mean, they
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found they found money for people who would come here
illegally and had to be housed and fed. And there's
a lot of people on who were snap benefit, who
were snapped recipients. They happen to have hit a little
bump in the road. They may have contributed to the
common good for their entire lives and now they need
a little help, and we somehow are going to leave
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them in a state of limbo as we approach this weekend.
I think it's immoral to do that to people.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Yeah, I have to agree with you. And it's interesting.
I mean I'm a pretty conservative guy, you know, And
it's what's so interesting to me though. You talk about
like the Democrats have voted, the Republicans have voted to
open the government, the Democrats have not. But within that context,
we have to understand that the that the Republicans want
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action y and the Democrats don't want action y. West right,
reopen it.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
But but Gary, the Democrats are saying, look, in order
for us to vote to to to reopen the government,
uh and continue a conversation, you've got to concede to
us on a B and C. Well, that's no way
to go about a conversation. I mean, if you and
I were having a disagreement and we weren't talking to
each other because you had a fence that was, you know,
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two feet on my property, or I had a fence
there was two feet on your property, as neighbors, and
and we weren't talking to each other, I wouldn't say you,
look there. You have to admit to me that the fence,
your fence is in the wrong place, and be prepared
to take your fence down or move your fence, and
then I'll talk to you. You can't do it.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
Well, it's but it's it's interesting, and I find myself
in odd waters, you know, trying. I'm not defending the Democrats,
but I don't think that they're the only I mean
I think that, don't forget the Republicans also do have
a This is the budget and it's a different budget
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than what was there in existence, So they do want
change as well. Well, yes, so they both want to
change something. And my point is this is not the
time to change anything. What they should do is they
should they should do what's right for the people and say, look,
we're going to keep everything just how it is right now.
Let's fund it for six months and debate it publicly
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for six months and see where we can get.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Let's not let the Republicans were saying, let's have a clear,
clean extension for seven weeks and we will debate it.
That's what they wanted to do. Anyway, Well, I.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Just forget that they said. But they said that they
would have a discussion after they voted for what they wanted,
didn't they I mean, isn't that what they kind of said?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Is that what Trump said?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
No, No, not at all. What they said is they
came up to September thirtieth, which was the end of
the fiscal year, okay, and they said, okay, let's have
what they call a continuing resolution, a clean cr uh,
and we will will continue the conversation. They walked themselves
up to the deadline, which was September thirtieth, and at
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that point they can't do anything. Okay, And I see
it pretty clearly. But hey, let's see what happens. I
do feel and I don't understand Governor Healy why she's
letting eight point eight billion dollars of my tax money
and your tax money sit there and not be available
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to put people's minds. It as simple as that. Hey, Gary, Oh,
you got to call more often. You used to be
a regular call or call more often.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Okay, all right, man, you.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
So good night. Okay, let me do this here. I'm
going to go to Porky in Florida. Porky, you're next
on Nightside.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Welcome, Well, good evening, good evening, Pokey. Hey, yeah, I'm
with Trump on this one. He's called on the Republicans
to use the nuclear option to end this ridiculous shut down.
And that's what they should do.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, what they mean by the nuclear option if I'm
If I'm incorrect, you can correct me. They have now
this sixty point You need sixty votes in the Senate
to basically end a filibuster. That's what the Democrats are doing. Uh,
and you know, there's good arguments to a minority in
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the Senate should be able to hold things up a
little bit, not make it easy if if they end
this when the Republicans are in a minority. You know,
if you if you want straight up and down votes
majority rules, that's exactly what what ending the nuclear option
would be. The nuclear option is this sixty vote a
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number that the Republicans have to get. And of course
they only have fifty three senators, so you got to
have some bipartisanship to end a filibuster. I think I'm
trying to explain it for people who don't understand that
maybe as well as you do, Porky. I hope you
understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
Yes, I understand it, and I'm with Trump on this one.
He's calling on the Republican senators to end the nuclear
option and it's a good idea. And for the governor
of Massachusetts to not use rainy day funds. There's no
guarantee that they're going to get that money back, Dan.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Right, but we have eight Well, first of all, I
think they will, but you're right, there is no guarantee.
But we have eight point eight billion dollars. We have
a budget in Massachusetts of sixty two billion dollars. We
have never had that much money in a rainy day
fund in Massachusetts in your lifetime a lifetime, and it's
going to be a rainy day for these people who
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are you know, who may not get their their snap benefits.
You know, they're what used to be called food stamps.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Hey, I was brought up Catholic.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
I understand. I care about the needy and the poor,
you know, but if if the Senate does the right thing,
they can get a few Democrats to go along and
this ridiculous American shutdown, I.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Agree, so Poky, you and I don't always agree, but
I'm with you on this one, my friend.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
Great call, Okay, you have a great you have a
great weekend.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I'll tell you this. The weather up here is horrific tonight.
It's nothing like Jamaica, but it is pouring rain. And
I hope that you're having a better night out of
Florida than most of us in New England are tonight.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Hey.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
Hey, I'm barefoot on my porch and I'm looking out
over a beautiful pasture full of cows. And good for you.
I have I have no I have no complaints at all.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Enjoyed, Porky, Appreciate it. Thank you, my friend. We'll talk sooner. Okay,
thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
All right, bye bye.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
All right, I got will and Long Island. He's on
the other side, Marion Lexington, I got room for a
couple more if you want six one, seven, four thirty,
six seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. We are kind
of just talking about well, you know what we're talking about.
You can you can join us on that topic or
anything that is on your mind. Be right back on
night Side. Will start us off.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
All right, back we go. Let me go to Will
in Long Island. Will I got pack lines, You go
right ahead, lead us off for friend.
Speaker 8 (32:53):
Okay, real quick, just just state really what the nuclear
option is in a real layman's type of term. It's
actually a procedure that allows you to avoid the three
fifths super majority needed to invoke cloture, which means to
be able to get past the filibuster. Right, that's why
they haven't been able to pass the yet.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Basically, by a majority vote, that Senate could eliminate.
Speaker 9 (33:18):
This simple majority, simple majority, which is like a whole
convoluted thing they have to do. They have to bring
up a thing, and then a guy has to deny it,
and then it appeal and it's a whole nonsense thing,
but it avoids it and it allows you to pass
the appropriations bill with a fifty one, which is like
something they don't like to do because obviously you want
to be able to have a filibuster when you have
a problem. We got to uh, you know, Bill Gates,
(33:40):
I agree with you. I'm glad that he came to
his senses, you know. And I don't believe he was
like heavily invested in making money behind behind the whole
idea of uh he distributed. He contributed his own money, right,
But I think and I you know, by no means
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of my scientists. But you know, I like to research everything.
Speaker 8 (34:04):
I go down like crazy rabbit holes. The founder of
the Weather Channel for years was saying that it's just
a made up thing. There are plenty of scientists like
you said that didn't want to come out because it
was like people coming out saying the world is round
when everybody said it's flat, you idiot, what are you stupid?
Speaker 7 (34:18):
You know.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
Meanwhile, they were ahead of their time. There was a
lot of money involved, Okay. I mean if you look
at Al Gore since two thousand and eight, he was
invested in all types of carbon credits and all these
all the crazy things, and his investment management firm that
he was big in was behind all of this thing
looking for more government money. And you went, money poured
into these things which were making them rich. But what
(34:40):
kills me about that is that on the flip side
of that, in twenty thirteen, Al Gore his home in
Tennessee was assessed. It's ten thousand square foot home. Did
you know that it was using more electricity in one
year than your average family uses in twenty one years.
And these are the type of hypocrites that are out there,
but us.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
A lot a lot of them. Also, we're flying private
jets to conferences around the world decrying the use of
private jets.
Speaker 9 (35:09):
Right, there's no shortage of hypocrisy, Like you have uh
Bernie Sanders running around telling everybody and then he's flying
around the private jets talking about oligarchs. So you know,
I think when you when you look at things like that,
you really need to follow the money and see where
the probability is and what is the reasoning why people
would get behind things like this, And by the way, you.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Will just to make it, just to make it clear,
I want to be fair to Gates. Gates are saying
that the priority should shift. He's not saying He's not
turning around and say that he was wrong on on climate. Yeah,
so he's he basically is is kind of pivoting away
from some of the language that he used. It's as
simple as that.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
Yeah, so right, But you know, I could finally appreciate
that that one thing that he believes right now at
this moment, you.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Know, finally I think he's reasonable. I think he's reasonable,
and he's not. Uh, he's not rejecting everything he said,
but he but as as the article says, Gates says
climate change will not lead to humanity's demised. And that's
the memoy. He wrote, Hey, I get a thanks, well, thanks,
(36:17):
don't be stranger. Thanks, Let's keep rolling here. We'll're gonna
go next, gonna go to Mary and Lexie. Did marry
you next time? Nightsager?
Speaker 10 (36:23):
Right ahead, Yes, thank you for taking my call. So
my call is regarding Governor Heally and I have a
comment and a question regarding her.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (36:32):
First of the comment is I heard her talking today
when she made her press announcement, and she is accusing
Trump of having the ability to do something about the
snap problem, but he chooses not to. Well, isn't she
guilty of the same action because she herself could also
(36:52):
do something about it, as you have mentioned with that
Rainy Day fund, and she is choosing to do it.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I felt the same way when I heard her tonight
in the news. I couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker 10 (37:06):
Yeah, and I was brought up with two wrongs. Don't
make a right. And you can't control what somebody else
may or may not be doing, but you can control
what you're doing. So she should hold herself responsible regardless
how this problem started or who's at fault. She could
(37:27):
also do something about it, and then my question would
be to her if I could ask her a question
would be. She also asked for whoever would be able
to donate, contribute whatever, to please step up. I want
to know what she's doing personally, personally as just a resident,
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as she's asking of us to.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I don't know. I thought that I heard something earlier
this week, and I want to be fair that she
had made a contribution. I'm not sure if they specified
how much. To be honest, I believe that there was some.
When she held that news conference, there was a reference
that she had made a contribution and called for others
to join her.
Speaker 10 (38:13):
Mary, Well, then that's fair. But still I feel she
is the one who is responsible for us, and she
is just as guilty as what she's accusing Trump.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Look to that one. We're spot on there. Thanks Mary,
keep calling. Thank you so much.
Speaker 10 (38:29):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Have a great night. Linda in north Waymouth, Linda, you
got to be quick for me. Go right ahead.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
I will be quick.
Speaker 11 (38:36):
I echo what that last caller said. That's what I
was calling about. I agree with you and Governor Heay
should put aside her personal feelings for Donald Trump and
take care of the people in Massachusetts that she was
elected to do.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I'm with you totally, Linda. You know that, and thank
you so much for adding your voice tonight. I know
it's late and I wish I had more time, but
your your points were well made. Thank you so much.
Speaker 11 (39:04):
I thank you for let me answering my call.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
So Okay, Xavier in Dorchester, we're tight, Xavier, what I
can give you out a minute? Go right ahead?
Speaker 3 (39:16):
How you doing? Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
I can hear you perfectly, Go right ahead, but I.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Want real quick.
Speaker 8 (39:22):
I want to ask three questions who's the president Donald Trump?
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Who's can control of Congress?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
The Republicans control the House?
Speaker 8 (39:33):
How many times? How many times having worked and training
in three days? How many times having adventure of the
office to work and still getting paid.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
At Texas and I know that they have voted in.
Speaker 8 (39:44):
This how many times they've been all well paid?
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Well? Twelve twelve twelve? Very good?
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Okay, Now who's control?
Speaker 8 (39:53):
Who's major in the House?
Speaker 2 (39:56):
We already went over that, Xavier, I'm not doing cross
examination with you. Call earlier and I give you all
the time in the world, full of conversation. Have a
great night. Last call BJ in acting BJ. I got
about fifteen seconds for you, thanks to Xavier goright ed BJ.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
My signe's gonna be quick. Thanks for taking my call.
Uh you said Danny topic we could talk about I
whether it's SNAP or other federal defunding. I believe that
the city or states that are are defunded from federal
dollars shouldn't have to pay federal taxes.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Okay, interesting point. I wish it called earlier. You just
called and we got you in, but I got to
let you go. We'll pick that tomorrow night. Thanks BJ.
Done for the night. I want to thank again Shane,
and I also want to thank Jay back in the
control room tonight. All dogs, all cats, all pets go
to heaven. That's why Pal Charlie Rais, who passed fifteen
years ago in February. That's why your pets are who passed.
(40:59):
They love you when you love them. I do believe
you'll see them again. I'll be on nights Hote with
Dan Ray in just about two minutes. We'll see you
on Friday. Stay dry, everyone,
It's Nightside with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's m vidio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Well, before we get to our eleven o'clock hour, I
want to send out a very special happy birthday to
a longtime Nightside listener who celebrates a very special birthday tomorrow,
Dot Harrigan in Medford. Tomorrow, October thirty first, will be
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Dot's birthday. It's one of those birthday out you never
tell a lady's age, so I'm not going to do
that to her, but you just I got to tell
you it's a very special milestone she is reaching tomorrow.
She's one of our best callers and our best listeners.
I think most of you know Dot from Medford over
the years, but she is She's someone who always has
(00:51):
a very strong opinion, whether she agrees with me or not.
But she's delightful as a caller and delightful as a person.
So Dot, I hope you'll listen tonight. If you get
a chance to just call in. I won't put you
on the air, but just let my producers know that
you heard this greeting. I kept it in the back
of my mind and we talked about the importance of
(01:12):
October thirty first, to you, and I just couldn't let
the night go by without wishing you a very happy birthday.
And I hope some of the people who our mutual
friends are also listening at this point as well. Now
here's what I'm not sure what you folks want to
do tonight. It is a horrific rainy night here in
(01:33):
New England. And if any of you want to call
in and tell me how bad the weather is where
you are, if you're driving, please be careful, okay, if
you're out there, it's pretty easy to hydroplane on a
night like tonight. Just was listening to the rain outside
and where I am, it's coming down really in buckets.
I heard one of the weather forecasters tonight said, but
(01:54):
we could get, you know, a couple of inches of rain.
That's a lot of rain in a relatively short period
of time. So when we talk about that, the other
thing which I wanted to mention is the last couple
of days. Bill Gates, the brilliant founder of Microsoft or
(02:14):
co founder of Microsoft, who has spent billions of dollars
of his own money to raise the alarm about the
dangers of climate change. According to The New York Times,
to a piece by David Gellis in Yesterday's New York Times,
is now pushing back against what he calls a doomsday
(02:35):
outlook and appears to have shifted his stance on the
risks posted by a warming planet. He released a lengthy
memo on Tuesday, according to David Gellis in The New
York Times yesterday, and he sought to tamp down the
alarmism that Gates said many people use to describe the
(02:59):
effects of rising temperatures. We have talked about climate change
on this program for periodically for many years, and I
must admit to you, I'm not convinced either way. Okay,
I don't know. I don't know. I do know this.
The Earth has been around five billion years, and it
(03:21):
has gone through cold cycles and warm cycles. It is
probably today it has more human beings on the Earth
than ever before. And human beings do generate activity, and
we know that fossil fuels also generate activity. But in
(03:43):
my opinion, my opinion, we will survive as planet Earth.
Gates has called for redirecting efforts away from climate change
alarm okay, because he now feels that perhaps the problem
is not as acute as he thought. It was, and
(04:06):
he's saying that the efforts on Earth should be redirected
toward improving lives in the developing world. Now, I got
to tell you, when I went to Catholic grammar school,
deep into the last century, they were always passing around
a little cardboard box in Catholic Grammar school to donate
(04:28):
to the Indian missions or donate to the African missions.
And those of us were pulling nickels and dimes out
of our pockets and doing what we could. And this
was the nuns, the Sisters of Charity of Nazareth. So
it seems to me like Bill Gates now has wasted
(04:48):
a lot of money, a lot of money on climate change.
Climate is always changing. We know that Bill Gates and
I are fairly close in age, maybe a year or
two younger. I'm not exactly sure of his age, but
he must remember time in Newsweek magazine articles in the
nineteen seventies that talked about the coming ice age. Those
(05:13):
were articles in the New York in the Newsweek and
Time magazine, which were very important weekly magazines back in
the day. They were as important as any other major outlet.
They probably were read by more people than the New
York Times, of the Boston Globe, of the Miami Hera,
of the La Times. And I think it takes a
(05:35):
big man in this case, Bill Gates. I'm not saying
he's changing his position, but modifying his position. And all
of the people like AOC and Bernie Sanders and Al
Gore and Greta Tundberg who basically have been telling us
for years and years and years that if this doesn't happen.
I was reading the Boston Globe today they were talking
(05:58):
about how that this flooding on More Boulevard. Well, I'll
bet you there's been flooding on Morrissey Boulevard for a
long time. I had said to all of you a
long time ago that when the smartest president in the
history of the United States bought a sea level eighteen
(06:18):
acre plot on Martha's vineyard shortly after he left the
White House, I always felt that if Barack Obama would
do that, and he probably had as good of information
as anybody as a former president of the United States,
that the threat of the earth literally collapsing, as some
(06:41):
of the alarmists used to say, is not is not real.
So bottom line is we need to monitor this. I
commend Bill Gates, even though he's saying I'm not you know,
saying that it's not a problem, but it will not
lead to humanities to eyes in Bill Gates's uh, this decision.
(07:04):
If you want to talk about that, that would be great.
Six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one
seven nine three nine no no no no, six point
seven nine three, one ten thirty. Too many numbers will join.
We will rejoin the conversation after the break. I have
Phil in Everett, Judy, and Bellingham, and I'd love to
hear from you on this or any other topic. I'm
(07:26):
even willing to go open lines here for the balance
of the night if you want to talk about climate
change and Bill Bill Gates's The problem I have sometimes
is I read too much during the day and I
see these articles that other people maybe haven't seen. So
I'm at a little bit of an advantage and I'm
trying to share breaking information and all of that with you,
(07:49):
but I know that sometimes you're hesitant to call because
the information is is so fresh. Six one seven, two, five,
four ten thirty as the only the only lines open
right now, We'll be right back. This is a very
quick break on Night's Side, and we'll get back to
phone calls. If you want to call and open up
any line of conversation, you're welcome to do that as well.
Back on nights Side after.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
This, It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Okay, let's go to calls. I'm gonna start it off
with Phil and Effett. Phil welcome first up this hour. Gretahead, Phil.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, Hi Dan, it's uh, your old friend. It's almost
a twenty sixth anniversary from the Beth is A Hospital
when we're coming out with my wife and my child,
my little baby Phills.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Remember you're telling me, I'm Luke. If you're telling me
we met somewhere.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Oh yeah, yeah at the Beth Israel House Hospitals.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Oh yeah, absolutely, I remember that.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yes, yeah, because you said I have a cam corder
just like that, you know, let me take a video.
This is your wife and daughter. Yeah, and you were
there on a story and you walk this to the car.
And I met you a few times. I met your
son Dan, Yeah, in front of the postal service when
you were there covering the tax day when he was
on a school vacasion. It was, you know, great, Holy.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
How's your daughter doing it. So she's twenty six years old.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Today in a month around around Thanksgiving. That's she was
born on the twenty sixth, so she'll be uh.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Twenty sixth of November. November you mean.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Okay, gotcha right, So she's going to be twenty sixth
on the twenty sixth.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And how is she doing it? What's what? What is?
Where did life take her? Is she out of school?
Is she working?
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah? Well yeah, yeah, yeah, she yeah, she's she was,
you know, unfortunately, I've been a bit of strange from uh,
you know, my my kids and my wife at this
present time. But that okay, yeah, yeah, not as much
as me. But uh yeah she uh, last thing, she
was working at the staples and so forth. But she
(09:59):
was attending you mass, uh she was. She was going
to get into engineering.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
And but.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I've you know, my text her hearing the happy birthday.
But unfortunately I don't get any responses. But what can
you do?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
That is tough? I mean, that's you know, no matter
how how deep the estrangement should be. I'm sorry. I
am very sorry to hear that. If you're calling to
renew acquaintances, it's I've been wonderful to hear your voice.
And I remember that day very well. I absolutely do.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, it's fine because then I caught up with you
and Revere, you know, one evening when it was late
one night, when she was just a little baby.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I brought them over.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, tell her, yeah, tell her that Uncle Dan said hello,
that you guys need to get back together and and
uh and take care of whatever disagreements exist and uh
and get on with life because life is too short.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
The best thing, though, is when you had us all
over to the studio with my mother when she turned
and was honor like eightieth. Uh it was our eightieth
birthday and you had a stere as the guests, my
wife and like my three daughters.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I remember that as well. I do.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I do, yeah, oh yeah. It was great and you
signed all there. We had T shirts and we left
your autograph and everything was just very nice, you know,
very pleasant. My mom would always appreciate that. But unfortunately
she passed away three years ago on Mother's Day and uh,
you know, but she she made it to ninety five.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
She just what a great run, what a great run?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Well, Phil, I hope that you do well. You know,
I'm still doing the radio show. As you can tell.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I know you know what, you know what I wish
she did, Dan, I wish you fow you had in
and you ran for may or of Boston. That's what
That's why I wish you did, because Boston could use
a man like you of ethics and morality who can
get things done and who those people And it is
for you know, for the city and for our state
(12:06):
and everything that's going on here, you know, because it's
just a mess, really.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Phil, it is a mess. But that means we'll always
have something to talk about. Look, please keep in touch.
I I do my shows now remotely since COVID time.
But you know, you hopefully have my number. And if
you don't have my numbers, stay on the line and
my producer will give you my direct line they haven't.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Okay, all right, I will do that and I'll give
you a call and we can chat some more.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Sure. Thanks, thanks so much, and and please be well
and and and get back talking to people. There are
too many families.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
That I always used to send your message. I always
used to send your messages. God bless your brother on
the on the chats and when you uh when it
used to come to on my phone. I but uh,
unfortunately had phone issues and I you know, I didn't
have you coming up on my phone like you like
it used to.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Well, you know what, they'll give me my direct line
and I'll get back in touch with you. Okay, thanks Bill,
hanging there, my friend hanging there back back at you,
all right? So I would, Oh Phil, Phil, Phil, Phil,
I just disconnected you inadvertently. Phil, Phil, if you're listening,
call back, call back, Uh six one seven nine three
(13:28):
one ten thirty. That was my fault, not my producer's fault. Phil.
Call back six one seven nine three one ten thirty
and we'll get you my direct line. Okay, that was
my fault. Please call back Phil, And I'm it's one
of those nights folks. The let me go to PEG
(13:49):
up in New Hampshire. Peg. You were next on night side.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Hi Dan, how are you?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I'm okay, I inadderently. I hope that's Phil calling back guy,
so please give him my direct line. You have it there.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I just caught his call.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Very good.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
I want to say happy birthday to Dot tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Oh excellent. How do you know that that Dot's birthday
is exactly I mean? I just mentioned. Okay, well she
has a lot of friends, you know.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
And uh, yeah, no, I don't know Dot personally, but
she's called in a few times and I've had a
call back call in after her and say I want
to hire her.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, no, she is. She's quite the quite the call
a person. She's hitting a very significant number tomorrow. So
that's well.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I'm not going to say anything either, but you have
mentioned before she has mentioned I think how old she
is on the radio, and when you said a birthday tomorrow,
I'm like, wow, good for her.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
So I have she has done that, but that's her
decision to do, not mine. So I get into enough
trouble as it is. I just inadvertently hung up on Phil. Guys,
I hope that that is Phil calling back on that
number there, So give him my direct line and put
him on hold. If you don't have it, I'll give
you my direct line so he'll have it. Okay, how
(15:07):
are you doing you?
Speaker 5 (15:10):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Happy birthday to Dot. Are you out there tonight? You
normally are in the car at.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
This hour, That's what I was going to tell you. No,
I get home. That's why I don't call during earlier hours.
I usually get home at about twenty minutes of eleven.
I didn't get home until about five minutes of eleven
from work because of the rain and New Hampshire. I
didn't realize, but a lot of the smaller towns don't
have street lights, so it's very dark up here, and
(15:37):
the leaves are terrible. So I just I take my time.
But I've been driving for a very long time. I
know to take my time.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So just active. When you leave work, normally, how long
is it take you to get home?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
About a half no hour. So I usually leave work
somewhere between ten ten and ten twenty today I think
I was walking out the door at about ten twenty ten. Yeah,
about ten twenty.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Okay, so normally normally you said, I did ten minutes
to get home? How long tonight?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Twenty twenty five? But it was it was eleven something.
But you know, you come in, you take a jacket off,
you say hi to the cat.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Okay, So I.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Looked at my watch it was eleven something. But and
the other thing I wanted to tell you is Bill
Gates is seventy years old. I looked it up. He
was born October twenty eighth, nineteen fifty five.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, that's I kind of figured it. I should have
known that. As a matter of fact, I think I
had read an article that it was as his on
his seventieth birthday. But it was kind of a surprising piece.
If you read the piece in the New York Times,
he is, you know, sort of backing down from you know,
some of the things that were said by him and
(16:47):
others that you know, if we don't do this by
the year twenty fifteen, this lake will dry up. With
this glacier will milt and I am a firm believer
that that we go in cycles and that the climate
is always changing.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
But I think it is.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But I also think that it takes a lot of
courage for someone like him, who has sort of staked
out a position to admit, Hey, I might have over
I might have overstated a little bit, I think is
what he was really saying.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
So, oh, I definitely want to read that article, because
you're right. I mean, he's been stating that climate change,
climate change, climate change for so long. To hear him
say that, Well, the funny thing about it, you got you.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Got to I have to give Gates on Bill Gates
the credit. I don't know that he ever made any
money on that. I think that he's spent a lot
of money and has contributed a lot of money to causes. Yeah.
But but I think, for example, Al Gore, uh, I
think really has has in his post presidency lived as
(17:52):
the you know, the climate climate change warrior, if you
know what I'm saying. Yeah, he so, yeah, so I
we'll say, I mean, I hope Gates is right. I
don't know. I mean, I've listened to all of these
these you know, cataclysmic predictions, and we seem to have
gone by. There were predictions made around the turn of
(18:15):
the century that if we didn't get our act in
order within twenty five years or twenty or fifteen or
ten years, and none of those things seemed to come true.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
So one of them.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah. So that's that's my thought on it.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
And I agree with you. I remember listening about we're
going to have another ice age again. I'm only I'm
a couple of years younger than you, but not by
a lot. I remember those you know, the I say,
I was in.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Law school at the time, back in the mid seventies,
and it was you were reading that stuff and it
was like, oh my god, you know where we are
sitting right now. You know, millions of years ago, we
would be under a glacier. That's that's what New England was.
I think that's why many of the rock formations, and
I have friends of mine in the scientific community who
(19:08):
do not did not want to express their point of
view on this because they would have been you know,
they would have been battered from pillar to post. They
would have been made fun of. I mean it was like,
you read all these things that I never understood ninety
(19:29):
seven percent of scientists. Well, first of all, who's the
ninety seven percent? Who's the scientist? So I was I
have a healthy skepticism towards just about everything, including this.
Hey Peg, great to hear your voice. I'm so happy
that you got home safe and sound, and please continue
to listen to lie side and thanks for calling in tonight.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I will calcolate it. Dan, have a good evening.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
All right. We're going to take news here and I
got will in Long Island, I get Gary and nor Bridge.
I got some roof for you. We can go open
lines here. We can talk about if you're out driving around,
how bad it is in your neck of the woods.
Thank god, however bad it is in your neck of
the woods within the sound of my voice is not
nearly as bad as it was in Jamaica, Haiti and
the Dominican Republican particularly Jamaica, looks like that island nation
(20:19):
has really taken a tremendous hit and Cardios. I mean,
I have been to Jamaica. It's a beautiful island. A
lot of poverty. Wealth, yes, but a lot of poverty.
And you have to feel for those folks down there.
Join the conversation here. We can also go open lines.
You can talk about anything you want. We dealt with
(20:42):
two issues earlier tonight. If you want to follow up
on what we talked about with Mike Dian about these
new traffic signals, I think they're confusing traffic signals. I
think they're going to cause more accidents than they prevent.
We talked with Andrew Hale, a professor of law Northeast
University Law School, and you talk to raising children and
raising them safely and raising them showing them that they
(21:05):
can take a little bit of risk, but introducing them
to risk and responsibility at the same time. We'll take
a break. It's it's the eleven thirty news on the
button coming back on night Side six one seven, two,
five four ten thirty or six one seven nine three
one ten thirty. You can introduce any topic you would
like coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Night Side with Dan Ray, I'm delling you Bzy Boston's
news Radio for.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
The only line available right now is six one seven
nine three one ten thirty. Let me go next to
Gary in Northbridge, Massachusetts. Hey Gary, welcome next on Nightside.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Hey Dan, I've known a long times with night Talkia.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Well that's not my fault. We're here for five nights
a week, four hours of night Gary, You're welcome any night,
go right ahead. What's on your mind tonight? What what
prompted you to pick up that? What prompted you to
pick up the phone tonight?
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Well, Bill Gates, First thing, if I may, I think
it's I think it's you know, it's big when people
admit that they're wrong.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I guess.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
But I don't know what more proof people need than
decades of being told that within a decade the world
is gonna end, and it doesn't that they need to.
I think he's late to the game. I think he
just thinks she looks foolish. At this point, and he does,
and they all do. I mean, look, eventually, the world,
(22:33):
the earth is going to say enough for you humans,
and it's going to shake us free long before I'm
sure it's gone. And and it is what it is,
But you know, I was, I really what prompted me
to call it the open line was the just the
the the whole thing, with the snap and with the
everybody's debating who should be on this program, who should
(22:56):
be on that program? And while I think it's a
great debate to have, I think that what's happening is
that we've lost sight that, let's say that that thirty
percent of the people that are on these programs shouldn't be.
They're abusing the government, You, me, and everybody else, is
what that means. I get it. But in a crisis situation,
you can't ignore the seventy percent that sit there. And
(23:19):
I think that both the Democrats and the Republicans are
doing just that they're so dug in in what they
want to do that they're forgetting that next Tuesday, Martha
that lives in anywhere Massachusetts is eighty six years old
and has no food coming.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
And they y, look, Gary, I address this the other night.
I'd love to know what you think ofout it. First
of all, the Republicans have been voting to open the government, yeah,
and to end the shutdown. The Democrats have been voting
against it. And many of the Democrats have said, well,
the fact that people are suffering, that's our leverage here.
(24:02):
I was very critical of Governor Healey the other night.
We have eight point eight billion dollars in the Massachusetts
Rainy Day Fund. Okay, Now it may not be a
rainy date on Saturday when SNAP benefits end, if they
do for you and me, but it's going to be
a real rainy day for people who lose the SNAP benefits.
(24:24):
And at a minimum, I think the governor made a mistake,
and there should have been an editorial in the Boston
Globe urging the governor to invade the eight point eight
billion dollars, which by the way, is much more than
we have ever had in a rainy day fund. And
if we have to spend a couple of hundred million
dollars of that, that's a fraction of that. Okay, it's
(24:45):
like two or three percent of it. She's moving some money.
I don't know what she's doing. I heard her the
other day asking people to send money to the United Way.
It's a great idea to send money to the United Way.
But she has eight point eight billion dollars. What are
we going to do with it, folks? I mean, they
(25:06):
found they found money for people who would come here
illegally and had to be housed and fed. And there's
a lot of people on who were snap benefit, who
were snapped recipients. They happen to have hit a little
bump in the road. They may have contributed to the
common good for their entire lives and now they need
a little help, and we somehow are going to leave
(25:27):
them in a state of limbo as we approach this weekend.
I think it's immoral to do that to people.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Yeah, I have to agree with you. And it's interesting.
I mean I'm a pretty conservative guy, you know, And
it's what's so interesting to me though. You talk about
like the Democrats have voted, the Republicans have voted to
open the government, the Democrats have not. But within that context,
we have to understand that the that the Republicans want
(25:56):
action y and the Democrats don't want action y. West right,
reopen it.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
But but Gary, the Democrats are saying, look, in order
for us to vote to to to reopen the government,
uh and continue a conversation, you've got to concede to
us on a B and C. Well, that's no way
to go about a conversation. I mean, if you and
I were having a disagreement and we weren't talking to
each other because you had a fence that was, you know,
(26:27):
two feet on my property, or I had a fence
there was two feet on your property, as neighbors, and
and we weren't talking to each other, I wouldn't say you,
look there. You have to admit to me that the fence,
your fence is in the wrong place, and be prepared
to take your fence down or move your fence, and
then I'll talk to you. You can't do it.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
Well, it's but it's it's interesting, and I find myself
in odd waters, you know, trying. I'm not defending the Democrats,
but I don't think that they're the only I mean
I think that, don't forget the Republicans also do have
a This is the budget and it's a different budget
(27:10):
than what was there in existence, So they do want
change as well. Well, yes, so they both want to
change something. And my point is this is not the
time to change anything. What they should do is they
should they should do what's right for the people and say, look,
we're going to keep everything just how it is right now.
Let's fund it for six months and debate it publicly
(27:31):
for six months and see where we can get.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Let's not let the Republicans were saying, let's have a clear,
clean extension for seven weeks and we will debate it.
That's what they wanted to do. Anyway, Well, I.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Just forget that they said. But they said that they
would have a discussion after they voted for what they wanted,
didn't they I mean, isn't that what they kind of said?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Is that what Trump said?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
No, No, not at all. What they said is they
came up to September thirtieth, which was the end of
the fiscal year, okay, and they said, okay, let's have
what they call a continuing resolution, a clean cr uh,
and we will will continue the conversation. They walked themselves
up to the deadline, which was September thirtieth, and at
(28:18):
that point they can't do anything. Okay, And I see
it pretty clearly. But hey, let's see what happens. I
do feel and I don't understand Governor Healy why she's
letting eight point eight billion dollars of my tax money
and your tax money sit there and not be available
(28:40):
to put people's minds. It as simple as that. Hey, Gary, Oh,
you got to call more often. You used to be
a regular call or call more often.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Okay, all right, man, you.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
So good night. Okay, let me do this here. I'm
going to go to Porky in Florida. Porky, you're next
on Nightside.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Welcome, Well, good evening, good evening, Pokey. Hey, yeah, I'm
with Trump on this one. He's called on the Republicans
to use the nuclear option to end this ridiculous shut down.
And that's what they should do.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, what they mean by the nuclear option if I'm
If I'm incorrect, you can correct me. They have now
this sixty point You need sixty votes in the Senate
to basically end a filibuster. That's what the Democrats are doing. Uh,
and you know, there's good arguments to a minority in
(29:39):
the Senate should be able to hold things up a
little bit, not make it easy if if they end
this when the Republicans are in a minority. You know,
if you if you want straight up and down votes
majority rules, that's exactly what what ending the nuclear option
would be. The nuclear option is this sixty vote a
(30:03):
number that the Republicans have to get. And of course
they only have fifty three senators, so you got to
have some bipartisanship to end a filibuster. I think I'm
trying to explain it for people who don't understand that
maybe as well as you do, Porky. I hope you
understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
Yes, I understand it, and I'm with Trump on this one.
He's calling on the Republican senators to end the nuclear
option and it's a good idea. And for the governor
of Massachusetts to not use rainy day funds. There's no
guarantee that they're going to get that money back, Dan.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Right, but we have eight Well, first of all, I
think they will, but you're right, there is no guarantee.
But we have eight point eight billion dollars. We have
a budget in Massachusetts of sixty two billion dollars. We
have never had that much money in a rainy day
fund in Massachusetts in your lifetime a lifetime, and it's
going to be a rainy day for these people who
(31:04):
are you know, who may not get their their snap benefits.
You know, they're what used to be called food stamps.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Hey, I was brought up Catholic.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
I understand. I care about the needy and the poor,
you know, but if if the Senate does the right thing,
they can get a few Democrats to go along and
this ridiculous American shutdown, I.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Agree, so Poky, you and I don't always agree, but
I'm with you on this one, my friend.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
Great call, Okay, you have a great you have a
great weekend.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I'll tell you this. The weather up here is horrific tonight.
It's nothing like Jamaica, but it is pouring rain. And
I hope that you're having a better night out of
Florida than most of us in New England are tonight.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Hey.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
Hey, I'm barefoot on my porch and I'm looking out
over a beautiful pasture full of cows. And good for you.
I have I have no I have no complaints at all.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Enjoyed, Porky, Appreciate it. Thank you, my friend. We'll talk sooner. Okay,
thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
All right, bye bye.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
All right, I got will and Long Island. He's on
the other side, Marion Lexington, I got room for a
couple more if you want six one, seven, four thirty,
six seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. We are kind
of just talking about well, you know what we're talking about.
You can you can join us on that topic or
anything that is on your mind. Be right back on
night Side. Will start us off.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
All right, back we go. Let me go to Will
in Long Island. Will I got pack lines, You go
right ahead, lead us off for friend.
Speaker 8 (32:53):
Okay, real quick, just just state really what the nuclear
option is in a real layman's type of term. It's
actually a procedure that allows you to avoid the three
fifths super majority needed to invoke cloture, which means to
be able to get past the filibuster. Right, that's why
they haven't been able to pass the yet.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Basically, by a majority vote, that Senate could eliminate.
Speaker 9 (33:18):
This simple majority, simple majority, which is like a whole
convoluted thing they have to do. They have to bring
up a thing, and then a guy has to deny it,
and then it appeal and it's a whole nonsense thing,
but it avoids it and it allows you to pass
the appropriations bill with a fifty one, which is like
something they don't like to do because obviously you want
to be able to have a filibuster when you have
a problem. We got to uh, you know, Bill Gates,
(33:40):
I agree with you. I'm glad that he came to
his senses, you know. And I don't believe he was
like heavily invested in making money behind behind the whole
idea of uh he distributed. He contributed his own money, right,
But I think and I you know, by no means
(34:02):
of my scientists. But you know, I like to research everything.
Speaker 8 (34:04):
I go down like crazy rabbit holes. The founder of
the Weather Channel for years was saying that it's just
a made up thing. There are plenty of scientists like
you said that didn't want to come out because it
was like people coming out saying the world is round
when everybody said it's flat, you idiot, what are you stupid?
Speaker 7 (34:18):
You know.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
Meanwhile, they were ahead of their time. There was a
lot of money involved, Okay. I mean if you look
at Al Gore since two thousand and eight, he was
invested in all types of carbon credits and all these
all the crazy things, and his investment management firm that
he was big in was behind all of this thing
looking for more government money. And you went, money poured
into these things which were making them rich. But what
(34:40):
kills me about that is that on the flip side
of that, in twenty thirteen, Al Gore his home in
Tennessee was assessed. It's ten thousand square foot home. Did
you know that it was using more electricity in one
year than your average family uses in twenty one years.
And these are the type of hypocrites that are out there,
but us.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
A lot a lot of them. Also, we're flying private
jets to conferences around the world decrying the use of
private jets.
Speaker 9 (35:09):
Right, there's no shortage of hypocrisy, Like you have uh
Bernie Sanders running around telling everybody and then he's flying
around the private jets talking about oligarchs. So you know,
I think when you when you look at things like that,
you really need to follow the money and see where
the probability is and what is the reasoning why people
would get behind things like this, And by the way, you.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Will just to make it, just to make it clear,
I want to be fair to Gates. Gates are saying
that the priority should shift. He's not saying He's not
turning around and say that he was wrong on on climate. Yeah,
so he's he basically is is kind of pivoting away
from some of the language that he used. It's as
simple as that.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
Yeah, so right, But you know, I could finally appreciate
that that one thing that he believes right now at
this moment, you.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Know, finally I think he's reasonable. I think he's reasonable,
and he's not. Uh, he's not rejecting everything he said,
but he but as as the article says, Gates says
climate change will not lead to humanity's demised. And that's
the memoy. He wrote, Hey, I get a thanks, well, thanks,
(36:17):
don't be stranger. Thanks, Let's keep rolling here. We'll're gonna
go next, gonna go to Mary and Lexie. Did marry
you next time? Nightsager?
Speaker 10 (36:23):
Right ahead, Yes, thank you for taking my call. So
my call is regarding Governor Heally and I have a
comment and a question regarding her.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (36:32):
First of the comment is I heard her talking today
when she made her press announcement, and she is accusing
Trump of having the ability to do something about the
snap problem, but he chooses not to. Well, isn't she
guilty of the same action because she herself could also
(36:52):
do something about it, as you have mentioned with that
Rainy Day fund, and she is choosing to do it.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I felt the same way when I heard her tonight
in the news. I couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker 10 (37:06):
Yeah, and I was brought up with two wrongs. Don't
make a right. And you can't control what somebody else
may or may not be doing, but you can control
what you're doing. So she should hold herself responsible regardless
how this problem started or who's at fault. She could
(37:27):
also do something about it, and then my question would
be to her if I could ask her a question
would be. She also asked for whoever would be able
to donate, contribute whatever, to please step up. I want
to know what she's doing personally, personally as just a resident,
(37:51):
as she's asking of us to.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I don't know. I thought that I heard something earlier
this week, and I want to be fair that she
had made a contribution. I'm not sure if they specified
how much. To be honest, I believe that there was some.
When she held that news conference, there was a reference
that she had made a contribution and called for others
to join her.
Speaker 10 (38:13):
Mary, Well, then that's fair. But still I feel she
is the one who is responsible for us, and she
is just as guilty as what she's accusing Trump.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Look to that one. We're spot on there. Thanks Mary,
keep calling. Thank you so much.
Speaker 10 (38:29):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Have a great night. Linda in north Waymouth, Linda, you
got to be quick for me. Go right ahead.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
I will be quick.
Speaker 11 (38:36):
I echo what that last caller said. That's what I
was calling about. I agree with you and Governor Heay
should put aside her personal feelings for Donald Trump and
take care of the people in Massachusetts that she was
elected to do.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I'm with you totally, Linda. You know that, and thank
you so much for adding your voice tonight. I know
it's late and I wish I had more time, but
your your points were well made. Thank you so much.
Speaker 11 (39:04):
I thank you for let me answering my call.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
So Okay, Xavier in Dorchester, we're tight, Xavier, what I
can give you out a minute? Go right ahead?
Speaker 3 (39:16):
How you doing? Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
I can hear you perfectly, Go right ahead, but I.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Want real quick.
Speaker 8 (39:22):
I want to ask three questions who's the president Donald Trump?
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Who's can control of Congress?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
The Republicans control the House?
Speaker 8 (39:33):
How many times? How many times having worked and training
in three days? How many times having adventure of the
office to work and still getting paid.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
At Texas and I know that they have voted in.
Speaker 8 (39:44):
This how many times they've been all well paid?
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Well? Twelve twelve twelve? Very good?
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Okay, Now who's control?
Speaker 8 (39:53):
Who's major in the House?
Speaker 2 (39:56):
We already went over that, Xavier, I'm not doing cross
examination with you. Call earlier and I give you all
the time in the world, full of conversation. Have a
great night. Last call BJ in acting BJ. I got
about fifteen seconds for you, thanks to Xavier goright ed BJ.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
My signe's gonna be quick. Thanks for taking my call.
Uh you said Danny topic we could talk about I
whether it's SNAP or other federal defunding. I believe that
the city or states that are are defunded from federal
dollars shouldn't have to pay federal taxes.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Okay, interesting point. I wish it called earlier. You just
called and we got you in, but I got to
let you go. We'll pick that tomorrow night. Thanks BJ.
Done for the night. I want to thank again Shane,
and I also want to thank Jay back in the
control room tonight. All dogs, all cats, all pets go
to heaven. That's why Pal Charlie Rais, who passed fifteen
years ago in February. That's why your pets are who passed.
(40:59):
They love you when you love them. I do believe
you'll see them again. I'll be on nights Hote with
Dan Ray in just about two minutes. We'll see you
on Friday. Stay dry, everyone,
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