September 23, 2025 • 37 mins
Late night host Jimmy Kimmel returns to ABC Tuesday after being suspended and his show previously removed "indefinitely" after he made controversial comments regarding Charlie Kirk’s murder. Disney decided to reinstate Jimmy if you will after much Hollywood backlash and boycotts however not all media companies or networks that have ABC affiliates are going to air Kimmel. Local TV station owners Sinclair Broadcast Group and Nexstar Media Group each announced this week they would not be carrying the return of “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” on their ABC affiliates. Will you be watching Kimmel's return if it's available for you to watch? Why or why not?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He's Night Side with Dan Ray I WBSY, Foston's Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
So last hour, my intention was to talk about the
speech that President Trump delivered today at the opening of
the eightieth General Assembly of the United Nations founded, you know,
in the days following the weeks following World War Two,
and it kind of it evolved into a either criticisms
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or support for President Trump, which I guess, you know,
he's pretty big lightning rod. If you'd like to continue
to talk about that, we can. In the meantime, there
are other topics that we can get to if we
are talked out on Donald Trump. And I think I
think most of you have opinions that are not going
to change, which is fine, okay. I mean, he's in
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the second term in the White House. He has been
a dominant player on the political scene now for nearly
a decade, probably actually a decade when you think he
came down the big escalator there the glass staircase back
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in twenty fifteen, June twenty fifteen, and an enormous political figure.
And whether you like him or dislike him, you're always
welcome to join the conversation. But the other story tonight,
and I should have checked during the ten o'clock news
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to see if there is any information about how Jimmy
Kimmel is going to handle his program, Kimmel's Program. He's
back on the air tonight. As I guess all of
you realize there. I don't know that the ABC looks
good in this situation, because one they take the guy
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off the air, and some people believe that they wilted
under the pressure of the FCC comments from the FCC
Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, Brendan Carr. They suspend
him indefinitely. They didn't fire him.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And so he's going back on the air tonight. His
show has probably been taped. They tape those shows in advance,
uh and that. And yet there are two companies, UH
Sinclair and Next Star, which are companies that own a
lot of television stations across the country, and they apparently
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have informed ABC that they're not going to carry Kimmel.
Now that's maybe the other shoe to drop. I don't
know if they will change their mind. But but my
question to all of you is are you looking forward
to seeing his return tonight? There are there are people
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I know who were just appalled that ABC took him
off the air. ABC released the statements tonight, saying that
they suspended him because of the comments that were made.
But then again, those comments, really in the context of
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that time, were what made the suspension. The implication was that, well,
if the comments were made now, they wouldn't they really wouldn't,
wouldn't bother them as much. So they were kind of
doing a little bit of a dance. For those of
you who forget, and I don't think too many of
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you have, this was the comments that got Jimmy Kimmel
in hot water. It would have been a week ago tonight,
now that I think about it, last Tuesday Night, cut
eleven a please Rob cut eleven.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
New lows over the weekend with the Maggie Gang desperately
trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as
anything other than one of them, and everything they can
discore political points from it.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Now what he's doing there, and I said it at
the times, I'll say it again. What bothered me about
it was he's implying that the shooter, the guy who
just brutally took Charlie Kirk's life, his motivations are pretty clear, okay,
and it's if you're on the other side of the
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aisle from Charlie Kirk where Jimmy Kimmel lives, highly critical
of Donald Trump and probably highly critical of Charlie Kirk.
You know, Kimmel should have manned up and said, hey,
you know this, and you should have stuck with his
statement that he originally made that there's no place for
violence in our system. Kirk had been quoted that when
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the talking stops, that when that's when the violence begins,
and there's some wisdom in that. There's no question wisdom
is in that. And what Kimmel did was Kimmel tried
to suggest that the shooter was really a creature of
the maga side of the eye, which is just not so.
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I mean, this guy was in a relationship with another
guy who was transitioning. I think everybody knows all of
that at this point, and I would hope that Kimmel
tonight would have the courage, whether he was asked to
required to apologize to the Kirk family and to people
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who were fans of friends of Charlie Kirk, because that
was an unfair it was a disreputable representation by a
so called comedian. The problem that I think Kimmel has,
and that some of the other folks on the late
night talk show circuit, they basically are only looking at
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one side of the aisle to make fun of. There's
a million jokes you can make if you spread him around.
I believe that Johnny Carson back in the day spread
his jokes around. And sometimes there are some topics politically
that really and not joke worthy. And I don't think
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that the assassination of a political figure, and Kirk was
a political figure, wasn't an elected official, is not something
that should be worthy of jokes. Now. I don't know
what Kimmel will do tonight. I don't know if he
has enough grace or enough intelligence. He should have enough intelligence.
He's a smart guy to make a genuine apology and
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not try to make an apology in the context of
a joke. But we will say. So what I'd like
to do if you're looking forward to seeing Jimmy Kimmel
come back, let me know why. Uh. If you don't care, uh,
And if you are going to avoid Jimmy Kimmel no
matter how long he stays with ABC, my understanding his
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contract is up in January. I'd love to love to
hear from you as well. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty, six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
We talk about subjects on this program. That's what this
program is all about. Generally, I give you pretty good
clear I try to give you a clear understanding of
what my thoughts and ideas and positions are. But I'm
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much more interested in what you're thinking. So we've got
some open lines here six one, seven, two, five four
ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
And if you're a far away place, triple eight nine
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Nightside after a fairly quick break.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
It's night Side with Dan Ray on WSZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
All right, it looks as if people don't have much
of an interest in Jimmy Kimmel. I got some open
lines six one seven, two four ten thirty, six one seven,
nine three one ten thirty. Let me go to Ted. Uh.
George is from Medford. Hey, Ted, welcome, How are you tonight? Sir?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Good Heyden? I called last week because I didn't really
hear what Kimmel said, and you played the clip. Yep,
I'm not calling about Kimmel. The reason I called was
that guy, John, that you gave eight or nine minutes too. Yeah,
I have never heard you so exasperated. I give you
a lot, a lot of credibility credit for not losing
your temper.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
He could, Yeah, he could be an exasperating caller. And
and I feel badly for him because and the reason
I say this is he's an intelligent guy. He's he's
no dummy. I mean the guy Bob from Rhode Island.
You know, he's a He's a few fries short of
a happy meal as far as I'm concerned. But that's
neither end of there. He doesn't bring much to the table,
which which why he gets he gets the plank, Uh John, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
John, I actually sit. I'm sorry, you know, I said
to somebody this morning because I forced myself to watch
Kirk's thing because in Jimmy's whole monologue can get a
little better after the clip you played. I do agree
with him that the MAGA movement, for whatever reason, is
capitalized on this financially. And you know, they were still
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in merchandise there and all that, And then the whole
thing with Grinder is a whole lot of political spectrum.
But I watched it. I you know, I felt some
of it was performative. I just Trump lost me because
when this is supposedly a Christian guy who wants to
go to heaven, the wife so she forgives the shooter,
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I have no reason not to believe it because she's
that's her faith. And then he goes. I like the
other side that I don't like forgiveness, and they applaud
and to me, that's the contradiction of that movement. And
then the whole thing with the town and Bobby Kennedy
just lost me. But as I said to somebody this morning,
and I think this goes to John's call, you can't
deny that Trump can be charming. I don't like what
he's doing. I don't reason. I don't like about kim O.
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I don't like the FCC getting involved. And like I
said to somebody today, let's say Fox Radio was coming up,
Obama pulled Fox because they said stuff about him a Biden.
I don't like any of that. And I put something
up to a friend today that I've told you before.
Love rig and left tip O'Neil Reagan had a great
thing about freedom of speech.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I'll for me be forced to watch this down the line. Selfishly,
I care because I have a little bit of work
in that field, and I have friends who work on
the show. Not you know that, not that well, but
their crew and people don't realize it's not just Kimmel.
There's two thre hundred people. And I don't know if
he was my opinion, if he was smart, he would
take a mulligain, he would apologize to the family, he
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would state his belief again, and political violence is no
good on any side, and we hope the country unites
and then move on.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
That would be a smart thing. But but I just
want to try to react to a few of the
things that you said. First of all, Kirk, Charlie Kirk
had formed this organization. He had a vision which was
that he could reach young people, and the way he
reached young people was going to college campuses and having
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these conversations. And I don't know if you've listened to
many of them. I never interviewed Kirk, never talked to him.
You have okay, good, do you have a party?
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Many times, but I would also say that.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
You've listened to him. Okay. What I'm saying what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
A lot of times. I have a friend who went yet.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Let me get this out for one second and then
we can have a conversation. I certainly knew who he was.
But there's a whole bunch of people who are clearly,
you know what, different, different, different flavors. If you will,
you have Mark Levin, You have a variety of people
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over there. Some are really pleasant and nice. Uh. You
know some of the people on Fox News, Dana Perino,
I don't think there's a nicer person that I've ever seen.
She just seems like a lovely person. Then there are
people who might be on that side, but they have
a personality that's that's tough to deal with. There is people,
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there are people on both sides of the aisle who
are are are really kind, good hearted people. Okay, that's
Those are the people that I like, and I hope
that they can somehow work together. Then you have the
people who are really ideologues and who dislike and can't
even tolerate having conversations. We have families around the country
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right now who are so so divided, and you know,
has Trump contributed to that? Absolutely? Uh? But we got
to remember he was shot at and when when someone
is the victim of a potential assassination, there's a lot
of people, people who you know, who support him, if
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only because of that. I mean, you know, you know
President Kennedy who was killed in office. You know, there
are people who you know who remember that Robert F. Kennedy,
Junior's dad who was killed. It's very complicated and so therefore,
all I'm trying to do is get people to have
a conversation. It's a little different than with than than
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what Kirk is doing. His organization now is trying to survive. Uh.
And was there politics uh in play in Arizona the
other day? I'm sure there was. I didn't watch it.
I watched the Patriots game.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Okay, uh so I record it and I watched it after.
I unfortunately watch the Patriots game too. But that's another.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, that was that was pretty That was pretty dispiriting.
But the point is that there is a tradition in
this country of liberal philosophy and conservative and at different
times the country did better with conservative presidents Ronald Reagan,
for example, and at other times we did better with
democratic liberal presidents Bert Bill Clinton, all of his you know,
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his personal foibles aside. Pretty good eight years, Pretty good
eight years. Franklin Roosevelt, the greatest president of the first
half of the twentieth century, took us out of the depression. Now,
World War Two had a big play in there. So
all all I'm saying is I just want to run
a show where people gonna have conversations and and John's
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John is very smart. I like John, I don't agree
with him, and I just think he's got these blind spots.
If I said to you, name me a couple of
things that that you agree with Trump on it, even
though you don't like Trump, I'll bet you you'd be
able to name me a couple of things.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I could do it.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I mean I assume that I assume, for example, that
that you would concede that our border was a mess
under Biden and in his administration it was a wide open.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
That's the reason why they lost the election. In my opinion,
that's why they lost. And I think the Democrats will
still lose if they go after truck economy, economy economy,
that's it. Don't but they the Liberals have a problem.
In my opinion, I'm neither neither Democrat Republican of saying, geez, Dan,
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you're not as good enough liberal as I am. I
have a higher standard of my morality. The Republicans don't
do that. And I would also politely say, I'm probably
a couple of years younger than you. What we grow
up for liberal and conservative. I think both sides have
completely changed what that means in today's world. The Democrats
don't understand language, they don't understand how it offends people.
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And I will always say to me, the tragedy of
Trump will be he could have been one of the
best presidents of all times. And I think his grievance
has come more not from the assassination. I think all
the nonsense of Democrats did him in his first term,
with all the you know, stormy dangles and all that stuff. Yeah,
I think that really stuck in his crop.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah. But also I think him oh absolutely, Oh, he
wants he's on a revenge tour. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
And that's yeah, And and he wastes time on that.
He should not be out saying I deserve the Nobel
Peace Prize. First of all, I don't know that there
were seven wars that he there was some skirmishes, and
there was some some things that he got involved in.
I don't know. I couldn't make India and Pakistan they
were going at it a little bit. There was a
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border conflict. Absolutely he got involved in that. I think
he's trying in the Middle East. I think he was
trying with Putin. I think when he brought Putin into Alaska,
I think he was he was saying, I can win
this guy over, I can I can convince him that
that we can make the world a better place. I'm
sure that's what he was thinking.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
But I don't know what happened with Ukraine's and I
heard you mention it. I'm assuming he took a highline.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, I think he had a meeting. He had a
meeting with Zelenski on the side uh at the United
Nations and he was asked about a couple of questions
and he talked about how deeply disappointed he was in
uh In Putin, and he said that he now believes
that which was the big change, that Ukraine should be
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able to win this war and retake the land that
currently Russia is controlling in eastern Ukraine. And that was
a message that he was sending to putin saying, you
know we now you know you didn't want to play
right now you're going to going to deal with us.
And he's upset that the Europeans are still buying oil
and natural gas from Russia. He wants to you know,
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he wants to kill kill Russia, not militarily, but.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
That's a that's a fair position to take. That's a
fair position to take.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
All right. Hey, I enjoyed the call very much, Ed,
and I hope that you'll continue to listen.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
And I emailed you the other day about the the
uglio and the class action thing that you're doing. Yes, yeah,
you're producing getting the email, so yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Got your name, got your name in the list. Matter
of fact, when you called me on that the other night,
I got to get her back because I really want
her to do this, and I think that that she
should be able to put together this class action on
behalf of Massachusetts who voted overwhelming to give her the
authority to audit the legislature, and those those folks in
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leadership up there are basically thumbing their noses not only
at her, but at the voters of Massachusetts. It's people
like you and me love you call me to keep
it up. Thank you much appreciate it, Thank you sir.
All right, good night, let's keep rolling here. I want
to see some some lines lit up here. Angelo on
the South Show is waiting on the other side, But
I would love to talk about Kimmel. Are you looking
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forward to tonight? What do you think he'll say? I
hope he's smart enough to inuine, to issue a genuine
apology and to begin to broaden his field of fire
so that it is so every night is not a trumpethon,
because if he goes back to that old playbook, I
don't think ABC is going to renew him in January.
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But that's just my my unrequested personal advice for Jimmy Kimmel.
Six one seven, six one seven. Let's get it going here,
folks on night side. It is a Tuesday night and
the Red Sox did win tonight, which was a big game.
If they can take two out of three in Toronto
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and then uh split with Detroit, they should probably well,
they wouldn't split because it's a three game series. If
they can even if they can go three and three
in the next six games, they may be able to
sneak in. If they go one in five or two
and four, that's a problem.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Coming back on Nightside, It's Night Side with Dan Ray
on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
All right, let's keep rolling here. We are gonna go
to Angelo and the South Show. Angela, welcome back. How
are you sir?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Hey, how's it going? Dan?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I'm right back at you. Thank you for calling in.
You're looking forward to watching Jimmy Kimmel's opening monologue tonight.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
I gotta tell you I don't care what he says.
No matter what he says, it's gonna be fake. He's
just fogging Amera. It's it's like having two five year
olds say sorry to each other. You know we're not sorry.
You know I'm sorry. You know his contract was up soon. Anyways.
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I think Disney kind of use this to Trump. Look,
we're doing the best we can and they I don't
think they're gonna renew his contract anyway. The show has
lost ratings, like you want to believe. And I hate
to insult the guy. There was a time in his
life where he was funny, but he turned into a
complete bump. Nobody wants to watch. It's how many jokes
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on Trump how many jokes, and believe me, it has nothing, dude,
where I lie politically. I don't want I don't want
to hear Hillary Clinton jokes. I don't want to hear
a Barack Obama jokes. I don't want to hear Donald
Trump or Mitt Romney jokes. People want to watch late
night comedy to unplug from the day's events, and then
you go right back into it with late night comedy.
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And it's been like it's been an ongoing issue with
a lot of these guys on late night TV. It's
like they jump to the political train, and that's not
what people want to do. They they already open up
Facebook and see it all day long. They turn on
the radio, they turn on the news, it's time online
when you're sitting on a couch, not get fired up
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about Trump. But you could hear it in the crowd too.
He's not getting the last he used to get, not
even from his own crew.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah. Well, I think, like anything else, everybody knows where
he's coming from. And the thing about comedy is someone
says something and what gets the laugh is when it's unexpected. Uh.
And and I think that his jokes become expected. Uh
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And but again, I don't watch it because I'm on
the air against it five nights a week. I haven't
watched any of these shows. I mean, I'm I'm aware
of who they are and what their reputation is, and
and I know that he comes across as kind of
a smirky guy and he's the smartest kid in the classroom.
And you know that's fine. Uh you know there, you know,
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I just.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Since The Man Show, since The Man Show, and even
back then, Adam Carolla was carrying that guy around. I mean, look,
he was in the right place at the right time,
getting into the Timble Show. You know what, he should
read the book on Johnny Coffs and and take some
notes from him. Watch about one hundred shows of Johnny Cossmer.
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You never knew where he laid politically.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, and you know you'd also watch them shows of
Jay Leno as well.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
I mean, Jay Leno was good too, you know, I mean,
look a joke here and there is one thing, but
it almost looked like the Democratic and the leftist parties
were paying him to put this stuff out there every night.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Well, we'll see what happens here. Do I think ABC
is going to renew his contract. I don't think so.
I think that they.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Probably they'd be crazy if they did.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, well, well, well would.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
By the way, by the way, Dan, there's a lot
of comics out there that they could be tapping into.
I'm sorry, I'd be looking up Sebastan Anascalco, you know,
somebody like Bill Burr. They would do very well on
Late By TV. You know, those are guys that are
serious comedians even you know, there's the one time the
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ones not coming to my head right now, but like,
I think Sebastian would be great for that.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, I'm not I'm not an expert in that. I
know that, you know, Dave Chappelle out there, and I
know that that he sometimes, you know press, you know,
pushes the limit. Here's the thing. I think that the
guys who are out appearing in concerts live or in
in in venues at comedy clubs. That's tough when when
you have your audience that has come from across America,
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uh has has gotten tickets, stood out in line for
four hours in the afternoon in Los Angeles for two
hours before the show. You know they're gonna laugh. You can.
You can walk out there and read the you know,
re read the the funny papers, or you could read
the front page of the Los Angeles Times, and they
would laugh when you when you're going when you're a comedian. Uh.
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And I know some of the comedians like you know
Lenny Clark and Steve Sweeney and those guys, and they're
working a club on a Thursday or Friday night when
half the people in there are half in the bag,
and some of them get a little honery. You gotta
you gotta control the crowd. Uh. That that that crowd
that that Kimmel sits in front of and he has
a he has a fay length of joke writers. Uh.
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And he like Colbert, they're reading jokes off of scripts
and screens and off a teleprompters. Yeah, that's what they
do now. And if they become lazy and there's there's
jokes that they could make about both political parties. Uh.
And and that would double double the area which they
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could they could maneuver. That's what I would suggest to them. Angelo.
I'm guessing you're not gonna watch tonight, so.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
I might tune in.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
I just might, all.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Right, Yeah, Thanky, Angela, thanks for Carlin. I appreciate you taking.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
The time tonight, goodnight.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
YouTube, good night Okay. If you agree with Angelo, fine,
If you with him, fine as well. Six one seven
four ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty.
We're talking about the return of Jimmy Kimmel. I thought
more people would be interested in that. Maybe you're sitting
there watching television and you're waiting for the uh for
his show to come on. Feel free to join the
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conversation whichever way you want. I think that he would
be very smart if he issued a heartfelt apology UH
and maybe did something significant for the Kirk family. I just,
you know, I just think that this the for Charlie Kirk,
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who I never met, never talked to, no personal friendship
with him. But when you see someone who is out
basically trying to engage the publican conversation, suffer the faith
that he suffered, you have to feel sorry for him
uh and for his wife UH and for his friends
and for his family. And I think that Kimmel just
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missed that opportunity unity two weeks ago tonight and and
hurt himself ironically badly. We'll be back right after this.
Feel free. We get lines only open at six one
seven two thirty.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
By the way, just checking here, Sinclear and Nextstar. These
are the two groups that have told ABC that they
will be preempting Kimmel's broadcast tonight. They control twenty five
percent more than twenty five percent of ABC's local affiliates.
That's a big number. Their stations also reach about twenty
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three percent of US households. That's a big number.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And as long as they continue to boycott Kimmel, that
is a tough number for ABC to swallow, in my opinion,
because that that hasn't that hasn't it has a real
adverse impact on his his ratings and the revenue to ABC.
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Let me go to Terry in Harwich, Massachusetts, down on
the Cape. Hi, Terry, welcome back. How are you?
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Hi?
Speaker 7 (28:15):
Damn good? How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I'm doing okay. You're gonna watch Jimmy Kimmel tonight. I
suspect you will.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
Well I don't have TV.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Actually, okay, then I now know you won't. But that's okay.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
I have a different perspective for you, if you'll let me.
Of course, Now I'm gonna put power tips a side
because you know I try to always do this.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
Now, mister Kimmel, I have seen his show in the past,
as well as Jimmy Stallen and Conan m O'Brien and
Stephen Coobya. I've tasted all of them in the past.
And the thing is, here's my my thing. They don't
write their own material. For the most part. They have
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writers they do, and unfortunately things get on a teleprompter
that somebody starts reading and then it's out there. Correct Now,
I am not saying that there is any way to
condone what happened. I am saying I agree with what
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mister Silvergrade said the other night. Yes, between ABC and
Jimmy Kimmel. But here's my real perspective. The people have spoken.
I understand that the Disney Company is the head of ABC.
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Between Disney subscriptions and Hulu subscriptions, they lost three point
eight billion dollars in four days. Okay, the money talks.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Oh absolutely, there's no no question about that. And I'm
sure that that their accountants are going to take all
of that into consideration and let's see how it washes out,
and let's see what you know. I'll be interested to
see what Kim, how he handles himself tonight, how he
handles himself going forward, and my understanding, and I could
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be wrong, but I've heard it from several sources that
his contract is up for renewal with ABC in January. Uh,
and I've read stories that said his ratings are going down.
Look late night television because there are so many options
people have now. Not only can they listen to their
local radio stations, which I hope they do here in Boston,
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listen to WBZ throughout the day, by the way, not
just at night. But you now have you know, Peacock,
all of these movie channels, and you have people who
have cable TV. They have like five hundred channels to watch.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Now.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I know that they only watched a certain number of those.
But the point of the matter is that the pie
that ABC, NBC and CBS used to split thirty years ago,
when Johnny Carson was was going strong or David Letterman
was going strong, or Jay Lennon was going strong, that
pie now has been split. There's a lot more pieces
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of that pie going in different directions, and that.
Speaker 7 (31:24):
A million ways You're right, And I'm just saying that
I also want to say everybody's human, and everybody misspeaks
at some point, myself included probably every day. If the
thing is once it's out there, it's out there.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Right it is. And again, Terry, whether you want to blame,
First of all, he's the guy in who runs the show,
and I'm sure that if all of a sudden they
put up a bunch of jokes for him to read
about Joe Biden, that he would have said, whoa, whoa, whoa,
what's going on here? We're not doing jokes on Joe Biden.
We're doing jokes on Donald Trump. He sees Donald Trump
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as a target rich environment for his jokes, which is fine,
but he should be small enough to say, well, the
Democrats have a target rich environment as well, and that
this company, you know, Michael Jordan was once asked why
he didn't take a posture politically and why he didn't
support and endorse Democratic candidates for higher office, and Jordan
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said at the time, look, Republicans buy sneakers too, and
that's something that I think ABC probably wants Jimmy Kimmel
to understand. Terry.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I got a school, I got.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I got one more. I got to get in here
before the before the the eleven o'clock news break. As always,
well you make you always make it a better night
for me when you call. Thank thank you, Terry. I
appreciate you call very much.
Speaker 7 (32:52):
Yeah, yeah, great, okay.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
By bye. Let me go next to Warren in Beautiful
Fall River. Hey, Warren, how are you?
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
How are you doing? My friend?
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Yeah, I'm not going to watch tonight. But you know,
I do you know, I do think that the public
is tired of the bias. Yeah, you know, the bias jokes,
the bias, you know, the constant attack and the same
old jokes and all stuff like that. And I don't
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think it's free seech. I think it's code of conduct.
Like you have a code of conduct that you is
here to yourself. You can't say certain things on on
the radio, and it like and like, if I said
what Jimmy Kimble has said in the past at my work,
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there's a good chance I don't have my job.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
So again not knowing, well, if, for example, if you
were a teacher in a public school system and you
were bringing Jimmy Kimmel jokes into your third grade class,
I think that would be a good reason for the
principle of that school to say, hey, Warren, you're there
not you're there to teach, not to indoctrinate. Y and
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if you weren't able.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
To, Yeah, you know, And and I also think that.
I mean, I mean, I'm not a religious guy, but
I'm going to say something that sounds religious. Okay, I
am gonna say that Godess loves and the devil is hate.
Now if the if the devil wants to get into
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get on onto the syrup and do some habit, he's
going to do it to hate.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Sure, yeah, I would, I would agree with that. And
and I guy, you don't you know, if there are
people out there who do not believe in anything like
what we're talking about, but if you are someone who
has a modicum of belief or believes that there's something
higher than us and uh and and if you you know,
if you believe uh, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
God represent very religious. But I do respect. I do
respect people, you know. But you know, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
I don't think that when you think about it, that
there's some guy out there who's a bad devil who
has created the earth, uh and everything else. Now, there
were those who are going to say, well, it all
just came out of you know, big black holes exploded
and stuff like that. I'm not a scientist at that level,
and I happened. I happened to believe. I don't tend
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to wear it on my sleeve here on Nights Side,
but yeah, I believe that there's a there's a higher power,
and I believe that there's something beyond what we're experiencing.
There were some people who will tell you that what
we're experiencing as hell and when we die, we're going
through this. And but we don't do that on Nightside.
We don't do a lot of religion here.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
But yeah, but what I'm saying, basically, what I'm saying
is there's a lot of hate in people's hearts at
this moment. You know what you know, because you know,
we probably Democrats hate the publicans, Republicans hate Democrats.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
You know, Red Sox fans hate hey, Yankee fans, and
Yankee fans hate Red Sox fans as well, by the way,
So there's a lot of that going on too. But
but I think all of us can kind of should
back off a little bit and say, hey, the people
who I disagree with, we can have a conversation and
I should listen and at least try to understand where
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they're coming from, and hopefully they will try to listen
and understand where I'm coming from, and maybe we get
to the point where we say, well, you know, you
heard my best argument. I heard your best argument. I
didn't convince you. You didn't convince me. We're still friends, yep.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Exactly Like if I if I'm talking to somebody on
just say Facebook, I try desperately not to insult them,
you know, even though they might throw insults at me
and all stuff like that. I try to keep the
conversation going by not being insulted.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Well, that's what that's we try to do it. We
try to do here on Nightside with some success, some
nice and what I gotta run because I'm up against that.
Thanks so much for calling very much. And by the way,
stay on top of my producer on that story about
the animal sheltering Rhode Island because we.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Yes, yeah, I'm trying to get I'm trying to I'm
going to make the phone call.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
They want to do it, we can. We can do it,
trust me, okay, because that's a great idea. Thanks Warre.
Talk so okay, all right, done with the eleven o'clock hour.
We're done with the ten o'clock hour. The eleven o'clock
hour awaits right after the newscast. If you'd like to
continue to talk about this subject, fine, If not, I
may go to open lines. We'll see what happens. Coming
back on Nightside
He's Night Side with Dan Ray I WBSY, Foston's Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
So last hour, my intention was to talk about the
speech that President Trump delivered today at the opening of
the eightieth General Assembly of the United Nations founded, you know,
in the days following the weeks following World War Two,
and it kind of it evolved into a either criticisms
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or support for President Trump, which I guess, you know,
he's pretty big lightning rod. If you'd like to continue
to talk about that, we can. In the meantime, there
are other topics that we can get to if we
are talked out on Donald Trump. And I think I
think most of you have opinions that are not going
to change, which is fine, okay. I mean, he's in
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the second term in the White House. He has been
a dominant player on the political scene now for nearly
a decade, probably actually a decade when you think he
came down the big escalator there the glass staircase back
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in twenty fifteen, June twenty fifteen, and an enormous political figure.
And whether you like him or dislike him, you're always
welcome to join the conversation. But the other story tonight,
and I should have checked during the ten o'clock news
(01:31):
to see if there is any information about how Jimmy
Kimmel is going to handle his program, Kimmel's Program. He's
back on the air tonight. As I guess all of
you realize there. I don't know that the ABC looks
good in this situation, because one they take the guy
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off the air, and some people believe that they wilted
under the pressure of the FCC comments from the FCC
Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, Brendan Carr. They suspend
him indefinitely. They didn't fire him.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And so he's going back on the air tonight. His
show has probably been taped. They tape those shows in advance,
uh and that. And yet there are two companies, UH
Sinclair and Next Star, which are companies that own a
lot of television stations across the country, and they apparently
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have informed ABC that they're not going to carry Kimmel.
Now that's maybe the other shoe to drop. I don't
know if they will change their mind. But but my
question to all of you is are you looking forward
to seeing his return tonight? There are there are people
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I know who were just appalled that ABC took him
off the air. ABC released the statements tonight, saying that
they suspended him because of the comments that were made.
But then again, those comments, really in the context of
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that time, were what made the suspension. The implication was that, well,
if the comments were made now, they wouldn't they really wouldn't,
wouldn't bother them as much. So they were kind of
doing a little bit of a dance. For those of
you who forget, and I don't think too many of
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you have, this was the comments that got Jimmy Kimmel
in hot water. It would have been a week ago tonight,
now that I think about it, last Tuesday Night, cut
eleven a please Rob cut eleven.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
New lows over the weekend with the Maggie Gang desperately
trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as
anything other than one of them, and everything they can
discore political points from it.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Now what he's doing there, and I said it at
the times, I'll say it again. What bothered me about
it was he's implying that the shooter, the guy who
just brutally took Charlie Kirk's life, his motivations are pretty clear, okay,
and it's if you're on the other side of the
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aisle from Charlie Kirk where Jimmy Kimmel lives, highly critical
of Donald Trump and probably highly critical of Charlie Kirk.
You know, Kimmel should have manned up and said, hey,
you know this, and you should have stuck with his
statement that he originally made that there's no place for
violence in our system. Kirk had been quoted that when
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the talking stops, that when that's when the violence begins,
and there's some wisdom in that. There's no question wisdom
is in that. And what Kimmel did was Kimmel tried
to suggest that the shooter was really a creature of
the maga side of the eye, which is just not so.
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I mean, this guy was in a relationship with another
guy who was transitioning. I think everybody knows all of
that at this point, and I would hope that Kimmel
tonight would have the courage, whether he was asked to
required to apologize to the Kirk family and to people
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who were fans of friends of Charlie Kirk, because that
was an unfair it was a disreputable representation by a
so called comedian. The problem that I think Kimmel has,
and that some of the other folks on the late
night talk show circuit, they basically are only looking at
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one side of the aisle to make fun of. There's
a million jokes you can make if you spread him around.
I believe that Johnny Carson back in the day spread
his jokes around. And sometimes there are some topics politically
that really and not joke worthy. And I don't think
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that the assassination of a political figure, and Kirk was
a political figure, wasn't an elected official, is not something
that should be worthy of jokes. Now. I don't know
what Kimmel will do tonight. I don't know if he
has enough grace or enough intelligence. He should have enough intelligence.
He's a smart guy to make a genuine apology and
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not try to make an apology in the context of
a joke. But we will say. So what I'd like
to do if you're looking forward to seeing Jimmy Kimmel
come back, let me know why. Uh. If you don't care, uh,
And if you are going to avoid Jimmy Kimmel no
matter how long he stays with ABC, my understanding his
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contract is up in January. I'd love to love to
hear from you as well. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty, six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
We talk about subjects on this program. That's what this
program is all about. Generally, I give you pretty good
clear I try to give you a clear understanding of
what my thoughts and ideas and positions are. But I'm
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much more interested in what you're thinking. So we've got
some open lines here six one, seven, two, five four
ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
And if you're a far away place, triple eight nine
two nine, ten thirty become We'll come right back on
Nightside after a fairly quick break.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
It's night Side with Dan Ray on WSZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
All right, it looks as if people don't have much
of an interest in Jimmy Kimmel. I got some open
lines six one seven, two four ten thirty, six one seven,
nine three one ten thirty. Let me go to Ted. Uh.
George is from Medford. Hey, Ted, welcome, How are you tonight? Sir?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Good Heyden? I called last week because I didn't really
hear what Kimmel said, and you played the clip. Yep,
I'm not calling about Kimmel. The reason I called was
that guy, John, that you gave eight or nine minutes too. Yeah,
I have never heard you so exasperated. I give you
a lot, a lot of credibility credit for not losing
your temper.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
He could, Yeah, he could be an exasperating caller. And
and I feel badly for him because and the reason
I say this is he's an intelligent guy. He's he's
no dummy. I mean the guy Bob from Rhode Island.
You know, he's a He's a few fries short of
a happy meal as far as I'm concerned. But that's
neither end of there. He doesn't bring much to the table,
which which why he gets he gets the plank, Uh John, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
John, I actually sit. I'm sorry, you know, I said
to somebody this morning because I forced myself to watch
Kirk's thing because in Jimmy's whole monologue can get a
little better after the clip you played. I do agree
with him that the MAGA movement, for whatever reason, is
capitalized on this financially. And you know, they were still
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in merchandise there and all that, And then the whole
thing with Grinder is a whole lot of political spectrum.
But I watched it. I you know, I felt some
of it was performative. I just Trump lost me because
when this is supposedly a Christian guy who wants to
go to heaven, the wife so she forgives the shooter,
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I have no reason not to believe it because she's
that's her faith. And then he goes. I like the
other side that I don't like forgiveness, and they applaud
and to me, that's the contradiction of that movement. And
then the whole thing with the town and Bobby Kennedy
just lost me. But as I said to somebody this morning,
and I think this goes to John's call, you can't
deny that Trump can be charming. I don't like what
he's doing. I don't reason. I don't like about kim O.
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I don't like the FCC getting involved. And like I
said to somebody today, let's say Fox Radio was coming up,
Obama pulled Fox because they said stuff about him a Biden.
I don't like any of that. And I put something
up to a friend today that I've told you before.
Love rig and left tip O'Neil Reagan had a great
thing about freedom of speech.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I'll for me be forced to watch this down the line. Selfishly,
I care because I have a little bit of work
in that field, and I have friends who work on
the show. Not you know that, not that well, but
their crew and people don't realize it's not just Kimmel.
There's two thre hundred people. And I don't know if
he was my opinion, if he was smart, he would
take a mulligain, he would apologize to the family, he
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would state his belief again, and political violence is no
good on any side, and we hope the country unites
and then move on.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
That would be a smart thing. But but I just
want to try to react to a few of the
things that you said. First of all, Kirk, Charlie Kirk
had formed this organization. He had a vision which was
that he could reach young people, and the way he
reached young people was going to college campuses and having
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these conversations. And I don't know if you've listened to
many of them. I never interviewed Kirk, never talked to him.
You have okay, good, do you have a party?
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Many times, but I would also say that.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
You've listened to him. Okay. What I'm saying what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
A lot of times. I have a friend who went yet.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Let me get this out for one second and then
we can have a conversation. I certainly knew who he was.
But there's a whole bunch of people who are clearly,
you know what, different, different, different flavors. If you will,
you have Mark Levin, You have a variety of people
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over there. Some are really pleasant and nice. Uh. You
know some of the people on Fox News, Dana Perino,
I don't think there's a nicer person that I've ever seen.
She just seems like a lovely person. Then there are
people who might be on that side, but they have
a personality that's that's tough to deal with. There is people,
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there are people on both sides of the aisle who
are are are really kind, good hearted people. Okay, that's
Those are the people that I like, and I hope
that they can somehow work together. Then you have the
people who are really ideologues and who dislike and can't
even tolerate having conversations. We have families around the country
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right now who are so so divided, and you know,
has Trump contributed to that? Absolutely? Uh? But we got
to remember he was shot at and when when someone
is the victim of a potential assassination, there's a lot
of people, people who you know, who support him, if
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only because of that. I mean, you know, you know
President Kennedy who was killed in office. You know, there
are people who you know who remember that Robert F. Kennedy,
Junior's dad who was killed. It's very complicated and so therefore,
all I'm trying to do is get people to have
a conversation. It's a little different than with than than
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what Kirk is doing. His organization now is trying to survive. Uh.
And was there politics uh in play in Arizona the
other day? I'm sure there was. I didn't watch it.
I watched the Patriots game.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Okay, uh so I record it and I watched it after.
I unfortunately watch the Patriots game too. But that's another.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, that was that was pretty That was pretty dispiriting.
But the point is that there is a tradition in
this country of liberal philosophy and conservative and at different
times the country did better with conservative presidents Ronald Reagan,
for example, and at other times we did better with
democratic liberal presidents Bert Bill Clinton, all of his you know,
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his personal foibles aside. Pretty good eight years, Pretty good
eight years. Franklin Roosevelt, the greatest president of the first
half of the twentieth century, took us out of the depression. Now,
World War Two had a big play in there. So
all all I'm saying is I just want to run
a show where people gonna have conversations and and John's
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John is very smart. I like John, I don't agree
with him, and I just think he's got these blind spots.
If I said to you, name me a couple of
things that that you agree with Trump on it, even
though you don't like Trump, I'll bet you you'd be
able to name me a couple of things.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I could do it.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I mean I assume that I assume, for example, that
that you would concede that our border was a mess
under Biden and in his administration it was a wide open.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
That's the reason why they lost the election. In my opinion,
that's why they lost. And I think the Democrats will
still lose if they go after truck economy, economy economy,
that's it. Don't but they the Liberals have a problem.
In my opinion, I'm neither neither Democrat Republican of saying, geez, Dan,
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you're not as good enough liberal as I am. I
have a higher standard of my morality. The Republicans don't
do that. And I would also politely say, I'm probably
a couple of years younger than you. What we grow
up for liberal and conservative. I think both sides have
completely changed what that means in today's world. The Democrats
don't understand language, they don't understand how it offends people.
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And I will always say to me, the tragedy of
Trump will be he could have been one of the
best presidents of all times. And I think his grievance
has come more not from the assassination. I think all
the nonsense of Democrats did him in his first term,
with all the you know, stormy dangles and all that stuff. Yeah,
I think that really stuck in his crop.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah. But also I think him oh absolutely, Oh, he
wants he's on a revenge tour. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
And that's yeah, And and he wastes time on that.
He should not be out saying I deserve the Nobel
Peace Prize. First of all, I don't know that there
were seven wars that he there was some skirmishes, and
there was some some things that he got involved in.
I don't know. I couldn't make India and Pakistan they
were going at it a little bit. There was a
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border conflict. Absolutely he got involved in that. I think
he's trying in the Middle East. I think he was
trying with Putin. I think when he brought Putin into Alaska,
I think he was he was saying, I can win
this guy over, I can I can convince him that
that we can make the world a better place. I'm
sure that's what he was thinking.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
But I don't know what happened with Ukraine's and I
heard you mention it. I'm assuming he took a highline.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, I think he had a meeting. He had a
meeting with Zelenski on the side uh at the United
Nations and he was asked about a couple of questions
and he talked about how deeply disappointed he was in
uh In Putin, and he said that he now believes
that which was the big change, that Ukraine should be
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able to win this war and retake the land that
currently Russia is controlling in eastern Ukraine. And that was
a message that he was sending to putin saying, you
know we now you know you didn't want to play
right now you're going to going to deal with us.
And he's upset that the Europeans are still buying oil
and natural gas from Russia. He wants to you know,
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he wants to kill kill Russia, not militarily, but.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
That's a that's a fair position to take. That's a
fair position to take.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
All right. Hey, I enjoyed the call very much, Ed,
and I hope that you'll continue to listen.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
And I emailed you the other day about the the
uglio and the class action thing that you're doing. Yes, yeah,
you're producing getting the email, so yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Got your name, got your name in the list. Matter
of fact, when you called me on that the other night,
I got to get her back because I really want
her to do this, and I think that that she
should be able to put together this class action on
behalf of Massachusetts who voted overwhelming to give her the
authority to audit the legislature, and those those folks in
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leadership up there are basically thumbing their noses not only
at her, but at the voters of Massachusetts. It's people
like you and me love you call me to keep
it up. Thank you much appreciate it, Thank you sir.
All right, good night, let's keep rolling here. I want
to see some some lines lit up here. Angelo on
the South Show is waiting on the other side, But
I would love to talk about Kimmel. Are you looking
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forward to tonight? What do you think he'll say? I
hope he's smart enough to inuine, to issue a genuine
apology and to begin to broaden his field of fire
so that it is so every night is not a trumpethon,
because if he goes back to that old playbook, I
don't think ABC is going to renew him in January.
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But that's just my my unrequested personal advice for Jimmy Kimmel.
Six one seven, six one seven. Let's get it going here,
folks on night side. It is a Tuesday night and
the Red Sox did win tonight, which was a big game.
If they can take two out of three in Toronto
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and then uh split with Detroit, they should probably well,
they wouldn't split because it's a three game series. If
they can even if they can go three and three
in the next six games, they may be able to
sneak in. If they go one in five or two
and four, that's a problem.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Coming back on Nightside, It's Night Side with Dan Ray
on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
All right, let's keep rolling here. We are gonna go
to Angelo and the South Show. Angela, welcome back. How
are you sir?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Hey, how's it going? Dan?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I'm right back at you. Thank you for calling in.
You're looking forward to watching Jimmy Kimmel's opening monologue tonight.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
I gotta tell you I don't care what he says.
No matter what he says, it's gonna be fake. He's
just fogging Amera. It's it's like having two five year
olds say sorry to each other. You know we're not sorry.
You know I'm sorry. You know his contract was up soon. Anyways.
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I think Disney kind of use this to Trump. Look,
we're doing the best we can and they I don't
think they're gonna renew his contract anyway. The show has
lost ratings, like you want to believe. And I hate
to insult the guy. There was a time in his
life where he was funny, but he turned into a
complete bump. Nobody wants to watch. It's how many jokes
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on Trump how many jokes, and believe me, it has nothing, dude,
where I lie politically. I don't want I don't want
to hear Hillary Clinton jokes. I don't want to hear
a Barack Obama jokes. I don't want to hear Donald
Trump or Mitt Romney jokes. People want to watch late
night comedy to unplug from the day's events, and then
you go right back into it with late night comedy.
(21:27):
And it's been like it's been an ongoing issue with
a lot of these guys on late night TV. It's
like they jump to the political train, and that's not
what people want to do. They they already open up
Facebook and see it all day long. They turn on
the radio, they turn on the news, it's time online
when you're sitting on a couch, not get fired up
(21:48):
about Trump. But you could hear it in the crowd too.
He's not getting the last he used to get, not
even from his own crew.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah. Well, I think, like anything else, everybody knows where
he's coming from. And the thing about comedy is someone
says something and what gets the laugh is when it's unexpected. Uh.
And and I think that his jokes become expected. Uh
(22:16):
And but again, I don't watch it because I'm on
the air against it five nights a week. I haven't
watched any of these shows. I mean, I'm I'm aware
of who they are and what their reputation is, and
and I know that he comes across as kind of
a smirky guy and he's the smartest kid in the classroom.
And you know that's fine. Uh you know there, you know,
(22:40):
I just.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Since The Man Show, since The Man Show, and even
back then, Adam Carolla was carrying that guy around. I mean, look,
he was in the right place at the right time,
getting into the Timble Show. You know what, he should
read the book on Johnny Coffs and and take some
notes from him. Watch about one hundred shows of Johnny Cossmer.
(23:04):
You never knew where he laid politically.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, and you know you'd also watch them shows of
Jay Leno as well.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
I mean, Jay Leno was good too, you know, I mean,
look a joke here and there is one thing, but
it almost looked like the Democratic and the leftist parties
were paying him to put this stuff out there every night.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Well, we'll see what happens here. Do I think ABC
is going to renew his contract. I don't think so.
I think that they.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Probably they'd be crazy if they did.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, well, well, well would.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
By the way, by the way, Dan, there's a lot
of comics out there that they could be tapping into.
I'm sorry, I'd be looking up Sebastan Anascalco, you know,
somebody like Bill Burr. They would do very well on
Late By TV. You know, those are guys that are
serious comedians even you know, there's the one time the
(24:03):
ones not coming to my head right now, but like,
I think Sebastian would be great for that.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, I'm not I'm not an expert in that. I
know that, you know, Dave Chappelle out there, and I
know that that he sometimes, you know press, you know,
pushes the limit. Here's the thing. I think that the
guys who are out appearing in concerts live or in
in in venues at comedy clubs. That's tough when when
you have your audience that has come from across America,
(24:32):
uh has has gotten tickets, stood out in line for
four hours in the afternoon in Los Angeles for two
hours before the show. You know they're gonna laugh. You can.
You can walk out there and read the you know,
re read the the funny papers, or you could read
the front page of the Los Angeles Times, and they
would laugh when you when you're going when you're a comedian. Uh.
(24:55):
And I know some of the comedians like you know
Lenny Clark and Steve Sweeney and those guys, and they're
working a club on a Thursday or Friday night when
half the people in there are half in the bag,
and some of them get a little honery. You gotta
you gotta control the crowd. Uh. That that that crowd
that that Kimmel sits in front of and he has
a he has a fay length of joke writers. Uh.
(25:18):
And he like Colbert, they're reading jokes off of scripts
and screens and off a teleprompters. Yeah, that's what they
do now. And if they become lazy and there's there's
jokes that they could make about both political parties. Uh.
And and that would double double the area which they
(25:39):
could they could maneuver. That's what I would suggest to them. Angelo.
I'm guessing you're not gonna watch tonight, so.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
I might tune in.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
I just might, all.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Right, Yeah, Thanky, Angela, thanks for Carlin. I appreciate you taking.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
The time tonight, goodnight.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
YouTube, good night Okay. If you agree with Angelo, fine,
If you with him, fine as well. Six one seven
four ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty.
We're talking about the return of Jimmy Kimmel. I thought
more people would be interested in that. Maybe you're sitting
there watching television and you're waiting for the uh for
his show to come on. Feel free to join the
(26:17):
conversation whichever way you want. I think that he would
be very smart if he issued a heartfelt apology UH
and maybe did something significant for the Kirk family. I just,
you know, I just think that this the for Charlie Kirk,
(26:37):
who I never met, never talked to, no personal friendship
with him. But when you see someone who is out
basically trying to engage the publican conversation, suffer the faith
that he suffered, you have to feel sorry for him
uh and for his wife UH and for his friends
and for his family. And I think that Kimmel just
(26:58):
missed that opportunity unity two weeks ago tonight and and
hurt himself ironically badly. We'll be back right after this.
Feel free. We get lines only open at six one
seven two thirty.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
By the way, just checking here, Sinclear and Nextstar. These
are the two groups that have told ABC that they
will be preempting Kimmel's broadcast tonight. They control twenty five
percent more than twenty five percent of ABC's local affiliates.
That's a big number. Their stations also reach about twenty
(27:41):
three percent of US households. That's a big number.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And as long as they continue to boycott Kimmel, that
is a tough number for ABC to swallow, in my opinion,
because that that hasn't that hasn't it has a real
adverse impact on his his ratings and the revenue to ABC.
(28:08):
Let me go to Terry in Harwich, Massachusetts, down on
the Cape. Hi, Terry, welcome back. How are you?
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Hi?
Speaker 7 (28:15):
Damn good? How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I'm doing okay. You're gonna watch Jimmy Kimmel tonight. I
suspect you will.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
Well I don't have TV.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Actually, okay, then I now know you won't. But that's okay.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
I have a different perspective for you, if you'll let me.
Of course, Now I'm gonna put power tips a side
because you know I try to always do this.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
Now, mister Kimmel, I have seen his show in the past,
as well as Jimmy Stallen and Conan m O'Brien and
Stephen Coobya. I've tasted all of them in the past.
And the thing is, here's my my thing. They don't
write their own material. For the most part. They have
(28:59):
writers they do, and unfortunately things get on a teleprompter
that somebody starts reading and then it's out there. Correct Now,
I am not saying that there is any way to
condone what happened. I am saying I agree with what
(29:21):
mister Silvergrade said the other night. Yes, between ABC and
Jimmy Kimmel. But here's my real perspective. The people have spoken.
I understand that the Disney Company is the head of ABC.
(29:49):
Between Disney subscriptions and Hulu subscriptions, they lost three point
eight billion dollars in four days. Okay, the money talks.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Oh absolutely, there's no no question about that. And I'm
sure that that their accountants are going to take all
of that into consideration and let's see how it washes out,
and let's see what you know. I'll be interested to
see what Kim, how he handles himself tonight, how he
handles himself going forward, and my understanding, and I could
(30:23):
be wrong, but I've heard it from several sources that
his contract is up for renewal with ABC in January. Uh,
and I've read stories that said his ratings are going down.
Look late night television because there are so many options
people have now. Not only can they listen to their
local radio stations, which I hope they do here in Boston,
(30:46):
listen to WBZ throughout the day, by the way, not
just at night. But you now have you know, Peacock,
all of these movie channels, and you have people who
have cable TV. They have like five hundred channels to watch.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Now.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I know that they only watched a certain number of those.
But the point of the matter is that the pie
that ABC, NBC and CBS used to split thirty years ago,
when Johnny Carson was was going strong or David Letterman
was going strong, or Jay Lennon was going strong, that
pie now has been split. There's a lot more pieces
(31:21):
of that pie going in different directions, and that.
Speaker 7 (31:24):
A million ways You're right, And I'm just saying that
I also want to say everybody's human, and everybody misspeaks
at some point, myself included probably every day. If the
thing is once it's out there, it's out there.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Right it is. And again, Terry, whether you want to blame,
First of all, he's the guy in who runs the show,
and I'm sure that if all of a sudden they
put up a bunch of jokes for him to read
about Joe Biden, that he would have said, whoa, whoa, whoa,
what's going on here? We're not doing jokes on Joe Biden.
We're doing jokes on Donald Trump. He sees Donald Trump
(32:05):
as a target rich environment for his jokes, which is fine,
but he should be small enough to say, well, the
Democrats have a target rich environment as well, and that
this company, you know, Michael Jordan was once asked why
he didn't take a posture politically and why he didn't
support and endorse Democratic candidates for higher office, and Jordan
(32:27):
said at the time, look, Republicans buy sneakers too, and
that's something that I think ABC probably wants Jimmy Kimmel
to understand. Terry.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I got a school, I got.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I got one more. I got to get in here
before the before the the eleven o'clock news break. As always,
well you make you always make it a better night
for me when you call. Thank thank you, Terry. I
appreciate you call very much.
Speaker 7 (32:52):
Yeah, yeah, great, okay.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
By bye. Let me go next to Warren in Beautiful
Fall River. Hey, Warren, how are you?
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
How are you doing? My friend?
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Yeah, I'm not going to watch tonight. But you know,
I do you know, I do think that the public
is tired of the bias. Yeah, you know, the bias jokes,
the bias, you know, the constant attack and the same
old jokes and all stuff like that. And I don't
(33:24):
think it's free seech. I think it's code of conduct.
Like you have a code of conduct that you is
here to yourself. You can't say certain things on on
the radio, and it like and like, if I said
what Jimmy Kimble has said in the past at my work,
(33:45):
there's a good chance I don't have my job.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
So again not knowing, well, if, for example, if you
were a teacher in a public school system and you
were bringing Jimmy Kimmel jokes into your third grade class,
I think that would be a good reason for the
principle of that school to say, hey, Warren, you're there
not you're there to teach, not to indoctrinate. Y and
(34:09):
if you weren't able.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
To, Yeah, you know, And and I also think that.
I mean, I mean, I'm not a religious guy, but
I'm going to say something that sounds religious. Okay, I
am gonna say that Godess loves and the devil is hate.
Now if the if the devil wants to get into
(34:30):
get on onto the syrup and do some habit, he's
going to do it to hate.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Sure, yeah, I would, I would agree with that. And
and I guy, you don't you know, if there are
people out there who do not believe in anything like
what we're talking about, but if you are someone who
has a modicum of belief or believes that there's something
higher than us and uh and and if you you know,
if you believe uh, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
God represent very religious. But I do respect. I do
respect people, you know. But you know, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
I don't think that when you think about it, that
there's some guy out there who's a bad devil who
has created the earth, uh and everything else. Now, there
were those who are going to say, well, it all
just came out of you know, big black holes exploded
and stuff like that. I'm not a scientist at that level,
and I happened. I happened to believe. I don't tend
(35:28):
to wear it on my sleeve here on Nights Side,
but yeah, I believe that there's a there's a higher power,
and I believe that there's something beyond what we're experiencing.
There were some people who will tell you that what
we're experiencing as hell and when we die, we're going
through this. And but we don't do that on Nightside.
We don't do a lot of religion here.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
But yeah, but what I'm saying, basically, what I'm saying
is there's a lot of hate in people's hearts at
this moment. You know what you know, because you know,
we probably Democrats hate the publicans, Republicans hate Democrats.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
You know, Red Sox fans hate hey, Yankee fans, and
Yankee fans hate Red Sox fans as well, by the way,
So there's a lot of that going on too. But
but I think all of us can kind of should
back off a little bit and say, hey, the people
who I disagree with, we can have a conversation and
I should listen and at least try to understand where
(36:25):
they're coming from, and hopefully they will try to listen
and understand where I'm coming from, and maybe we get
to the point where we say, well, you know, you
heard my best argument. I heard your best argument. I
didn't convince you. You didn't convince me. We're still friends, yep.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Exactly Like if I if I'm talking to somebody on
just say Facebook, I try desperately not to insult them,
you know, even though they might throw insults at me
and all stuff like that. I try to keep the
conversation going by not being insulted.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Well, that's what that's we try to do it. We
try to do here on Nightside with some success, some
nice and what I gotta run because I'm up against that.
Thanks so much for calling very much. And by the way,
stay on top of my producer on that story about
the animal sheltering Rhode Island because we.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Yes, yeah, I'm trying to get I'm trying to I'm
going to make the phone call.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
They want to do it, we can. We can do it,
trust me, okay, because that's a great idea. Thanks Warre.
Talk so okay, all right, done with the eleven o'clock hour.
We're done with the ten o'clock hour. The eleven o'clock
hour awaits right after the newscast. If you'd like to
continue to talk about this subject, fine, If not, I
may go to open lines. We'll see what happens. Coming
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