October 20, 2025 • 40 mins
The Lululemon store on Newbury Street in Boston was hit twice in one week by shoplifters. The thieves made off with over $6K in the first hit and reportedly $700 in the second hit. Police are still looking for the suspects. Retail theft has been on the rise nationwide with Lululemon being a popular target. The 2024 Retail Theft & Violence report by the National Retail Federation shows a 93% increase in the average number of shoplifting incidents per year in 2023 compared to 2019. This trend is accompanied by a 90% increase in dollar loss due to shoplifting over the same period. We talked about how Boston is tackling shoplifting crimes as Dan has some ideas of his own for how to tackle it.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's night with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And for those of you who are Seattle Mariners fans,
realize that the Mariners are the only team in Major
League Baseball that has never played in a World Series.
Oh so close. They lose four to three. All right,
we're going to continue talking about retail thefts in Boston,
but unless we light these lines up, I have a
different topic we're going to get to. So let me
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finish up with John, who was a holdover caller from
last hour. John, you had another point you wanted to make.
Go right ahead.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah, I appreciate it, Dan, And this I'm looking for
your legal expertise on this question. Now, residence in business.
Sometimes a business don't business, don't own the property, but
somebody's paying that property tax. Isn't part of that property
tax supposed to be protection from the government that we're
paying taxes to.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And protection from the government.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
No, no, I'm sorry that the government is supposed to
protect the business.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Well, the government, No, it's not quite that clear. What
the idea is that part of your property taxes which
you pay to the city here in Massachusetts would be
to support the police department and also to support the
fire department and right all of that, but but you
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could still have a fire. I mean if if the
fire department chose not to show up and said, well,
we think they have property, No, that's never going to happen,
and the police department might not get there in time
to apprehend the thieves.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Blood That isn't the city obligator to do everything in
its power to prevent these crimes.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Such, well, it's not everything in their power. They're supposed
to provide police protection, but they can't stop every crime.
The problem is they coddle the criminals and instead of saying, look,
you and three other people just went in and you
stole you know, twenty seven one hundred dollars in total,
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or four thousand dollars in total. This was a conspiracy.
We're going to charge each of you with the stealing
the four thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Know.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
What they try to do is they'll say, wow, that
person only had you know, one point two you know
on one point two thousand dollars, and we don't prosecute
for that, So we're not going to prosecute that. It's
they have basically watered down criminal law to the point
where it almost encourages thieves if i'm if I'm someone
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who's a professional thief or someone who's inclined to become
a thief, And they say to me, always a second,
if I steal less than twelve hundred, I'm not going
to be arrested. I'm not going to be prosecuted, Thank
you very much. Rachel rawlins, Oh yeah, I may not
do it because because or you might not do it
because you have a higher moral code and you understand
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that by stealing from someone else, that's that's wrong, morally wrong.
And in addition, even if you steal or someone steals
from a company and the company has insurance for it,
their insurance rates are going to go up. Just like
if you have a bunch of car accidents, your automobile
insurance rates will go up. Uh. But but you can't
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pass along as a driver your increased automobile insurance rates.
But the company is going to pass on the additional
rates that they now have to pay next year to
their customers. So everybody suffers.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And I think l A, they finally got rid of
their soft arm crime.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Da Garson whatever his name was, he remember.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
They showed two girls were arrested and they realize, uh, oh,
they don't play around anymore. They caught up. The whole
conversation was caught on video, and you can hear one
of them say Westcrew, basically paraphrase Westcrew. These new people
don't play around anymore.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I hear you. I mean that one. And the prosecutor
out there is I think he is a pretty good prosecutor.
From what I can understand. He came out against giving
some form of pardon or clemency to the Menendez brothers,
the two who killed their parents many many, many years ago.
(04:23):
I don't know enough about the case to know the
ins and outs of it, so I don't want to
offer an opinion. But he looked at it, and he
came back and concluded that the Melenda's brothers needed to
stay in prison. So thank you very much, Thank you
very much. I appreciate it. John, keep calling the show.
All right, Let me get one more in here. If
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you want to talk about these retail thefts in Boston
and what can be done other than probably getting new
public officials, but what can be done in the short term,
feel free. Let me go to Dwayne in New Hampshire. Dwayne,
you are next on Nightsager Right.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Ahead, say Dan, can you I can hear you perfectly.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Like your next door a right one of the best
audios of the night.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Go ahead, Oh listen, I can tell you a million stories.
Been in retail for over thirty eight years. Not enough
time to tell you everything that I've seen over my lifetime.
But this is something that can't be stopped unless we
start prosecuting. For Back in the day, you know, five
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ten dollars we used to prosecute. Nowadays they you have
your local police department. They don't want to want you
to call them if it's not a prosecuting like level
of one thousand dollars more. And I know summer twelve,
but twenty years ago I ran a big retail store
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and it was one point two percent shrinkage out of
a retail store.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
But that that's a nice word, that's a nice euphemism
meaning nothing shrank. One point two percent of the merchandise
disappeared because of theft.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
And that's one store in this company, and it had
in store security. So all these things these folks are
saying are great. I love your idea, there's too much
risk surrounded by it, and it's just there's just nothing
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is going to stop it unless they start prosecuting. And
they yeah, and they don't have enough police force. And
they were saying earlier to go back and and go
to be bothered by these small little crimes when there's
so much other crime going on.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Well, that's part of it, and at the same time.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
That's kind of what you're dealing with.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, but these small little crimes on a small store
can put that store out of business. If you're you
said that you were running a big store of some sort,
don't have to tell us which one it was. But
if a big store loses one point two percent of
their merchandise, that's tough. But the big store might be
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able to make up that loss or you know that
shrink into using that euphemism. But if you're a mom
and pop store and you have a bodego somewhere, and
I hope I'm pronouncing that that we're properly a small
variety store, uh A, in a relatively poor area. You're
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providing a vital service to people in that community. And
if that service goes away, that community is going to
suffer consequences.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Absolutely absolutely will.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
But there's no focus, there's no focus on that the
politicians could talk about, Well, you know, these are the
young kids. We're not talking about some kid who gets
caught smoking a joint, you know, behind the football bleachers
in high school. We're not talking about cracking down and
treating that kid as some sort of big time drug dealer.
We're not talking about a kid a couple of kids
who have a six pack behind behind you know, whatever,
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uh you could show, you can show. The criminal justice
system has always shown mercy to individuals first time offenders.
But when you basically say you can you can steal
up to twelve hundred dollars and you're going to be
immune from prosecution, that's insane. That's not this leadership.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
And the last the last retail store I worked for
before I retired, was it was you did not approach people.
They can walk out with whatever they wanted. You could
not do anything, you couldn't stop them, and it was
it was a it's a free for all. And that's
the mentality out there right now, and it's a shame.
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But the pop stores they have to do something different
from them because they're not going to steal twelve hundred
bucks from a small mom and pop store.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
No, but they can. They can steal fifty fifty bucks
this day, twenty bucks the next.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Day, and they can lead them dry you bet you.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Hey, Dwayne, have you called from New Hampshire before or no?
Is this your first time calling?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I have dan, I'm sorry. I wish I could say
it was my first.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
No, no, no, no, thank you very much, thank you
very much. I appreciate it. I hope you'll continue to call.
It was great call. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I have a great night, great topic.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
All right, we're gonna take a break. Thank you, sir.
Good night. We'll take a quick break here and I'll
tell you what I'm going to give you about five
minutes if you want to continue this conversation. It's been
really inspiring because people really have responded to this, which
I appreciate because it is not easy, uh, coming up
with ideas and subjects that people want to talk about.
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I'm going to read at some point tonight an interesting
comment from a listener. I'm not going to identify him,
but I will read that before the hour is up.
So if you want to continue to talk about that,
what are we going to do with these people who
basically are robbing stores? Blind? You saw the video over
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the weekend, people running into a small Lulu Lemon store.
Those are not big stores. On Newbury Street, there are
a thousand square foot stores. If they're that and they
just go in broad daylight, doesn't matter. They scoop as
many items with hangars off the rack as possible, and
they book it for the door, and nobody stops them
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and they're never caught. And I just think that, Hey,
why are those stores paying real estate taxes in Boston?
If that's the lack of response they get not only
from the police department, but from prosecutors. It's the rank
and file officers, it's the people who are setting policies.
Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty six one seven,
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nine three, ten thirty. This is a very quick break,
So down quickly. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay, back we go. Let me get to Matt real quickly. Here, Matt,
got you up next, Go right ahead, Matt.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
Day, Dan Hydron, hope you had a good weekend, had.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
A great weekend. What's your take on all of this? Matt?
Speaker 6 (11:32):
You know, I see all over a lot of these
stop and hits where people are running as you mentioned
in the video, and just break windows, grab a bunch
of high merchandise items in some places and run right
back out.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
And that you see these bodegas, these mom and pop
shops that people will not because it won't be the
same level of merchandise, but will really hit you know
where it's most thoughtful, and that's for the communities they
have are served by these you know, mom and pop shops,
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and you know they are just long term Excuse me,
they are just long term shops for serving the community.
And in the ends of the law, it's both going
to be the same until when you find out that man,
I tell you value of the item. These things are
always going to happen everywhere, you know, having a way
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to curtail it. Just don't see if there's anybody occurred
to happen.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Well, I'm not exactly sure the point you're trying to make,
but I think the I think the point I'm hearing
correct me if I'm wrong, is that, yeah, that when
you have a small mom and pop store, I call
it a variety store, a padago, whatever, bodego, a market
in a community on the corner store, and they provide
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when someone needs to get some medication or you know,
just a bottle of aspirin or a bottle of adveil,
or a half a gallon of milk or whatever it is,
you're a loaf of bread. Those stores run on a
very tight or thin margin. They're not making a million dollars, okay.
These are people who are literally Sometimes it's family members
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who are who are providing support for their own family.
They get on, they go out of business, and then
when they go out of business, then the politicians have
been saying, well, we are a food desert here. There's
nobody that's available here. How come they're on supermarkets here?
Well that's tragic, that's absolutely tragic.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
That's the coin I am trying to make. The main
point too, is that the law if you're stealing a
ten dollar bar of candy one of these places there
are one hundred dollars of food from these local shops
or versus like a Lulu money, you steal something for
one hundred, the law is not going to look at
it in between what once a corporate and to see
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it's there, right.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
But I think they have to look at it and say,
look it doesn't matter if it's a moment pop store
or if it's corporation day. They are providing a service
to the community, whether it's again food or clothes or whatever.
And these people need protection. And you when you have
politicians come in and say we're not going to prosecute
people if they seal less than twelve hundred dollars, well,
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guess what. There's a certain percentage of people in our
society who are inclined to steal, and if you're basically
giving them license to steal, which is crazy, as simple
as that. Hey, Matt, I appreciate you called good points
you made. Thank you as always, We will talk soon, okay,
thank you, sure, all right, thank you. Right back at you.
Let me get David new Hampshire.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
Dave.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I want to get you in here before the news
at the bottom of the ar Go right ahead, Dave.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
Hey, how you doing, Dan.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I'm doing great. You take on all of this.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
Yeah, Hey, you've been in the hotels where you hang
up your clothes and you can't take the hangers off
the pipe. Yeah, you have to see that. Yeah, why
don't they do that that way? They can't? Yes, yank
the whole thing. They end up yanking nothing.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Well, they can. They can. They can take the clothes
off the hanger. I mean if when you when you
hang up a shirt in a hot and a hanger
like that, I think it's an interesting idea. They certainly
can't sweep up twenty hangers, but they could. They could
take a pull shirts, pants, whatever they it would be.
It probably would be an investment. If I were the
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owner of Lulu Lemon, then I say, well, that's a
pretty good that's going to minimize what they can do
in one fell Swamp. But yeah, but it's not going
to prevent them from coming in and doing what they
want to do, which is basically rip people off.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
And the other the other idea I was second. You
know how you and the old shoe stores like we
used to go in. My mother would take me in
and the salesman would pitch your for shoes, what size
you wear. He'd go in the back room and take
the shoes out, not like you go to Bob's store
or something and the sneakers all over the place. Yeah,
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there's only one sample out there. Like you go in
the Macy's, there's a sample out there, usually only one shoe.
So you can't steal the sample.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
No, right, Well, it's a serious problem, and I think
that we need to treat it more seriously. We've had
some really good suggestions tonight, and I am happy about it.
I am happy about it, and yours is a good
one as well. And I didn't think that we'd get
two and a half hours out of this topic. But
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there's a sense out there that people are outraged, and
I'm outraged about it as well, and I hope, I
hope someone does something about it. And I think they
got to write immediately make announcements from district attorney's offices
that if you come into this district and you shoplift,
you'll be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
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And the full extent of the law doesn't have a
limit on how much you can you can shoplift. You
shoplift anything, We're coming after you.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
Yeah, that's right, all right, all right, beg you, Dave, Okay,
take care.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Thank you for your call. Appreciate it very much. Okay,
I'm gonna try one more here before the break, and
then we will break for news. Tom and Norton, go
right ahead, Tom, You're next on Night Side.
Speaker 9 (17:31):
Hey, Dan, thanks for having me on. And I do
feel bad for anybody that's running a small business than
continuing gets wiped out like that. Well, yeah, just just
too soft. And nobody's afraid of going to jail because
nobody goes to jail when they catch people doing this
fashion grab stuff. What if they were to you know,
suspend their driver's licenses, just really inconvenience these people to
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the point where they don't want to do it, or
perhaps if they're in any type of government assistance situation
that you that you deny them their further assistance if
they're not playing by.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
The rule should be Yeah, I think those I think
those are positive ideas. I think one of the things
that I talked about last week, which is kind of
similar to what you're suggesting. You know, these kids who
were doing the street meetups and they're taking over intersections
and they're driving cars wildly, which is dangerous for them
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and also for other people. The group that lit the
police car on fire here in Boston a couple of
weeks ago, and the two kids from Rhode Island are
facing charges of that. You're familiar with that stuff, right.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
They would make watch some roadway highway accident.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well, here's what I think. I think that if someone
is arrested, uh in one of those street meetups, that
if the governor was really serious about her cracking down
on that. Just as if you are using your car
to transport and sell drugs, they can confiscate your car
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because it would used in the in the in the
in the criminal activity selling drugs, or if they.
Speaker 9 (19:12):
Said a lot of money side up in their car.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Exactly, basically, we're gonna confiscate the car. You're gonna lose
the right because your car is it is. Without your car,
you can't do these meetups, you can't get to the
meetups without the car, you can't drive in circles and
do donuts in the street, and so therefore you lose
your car. That will stop that immediately when a few
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kids lose their cars, because kids that age, their car
is their lifeline. Without their car, they're sitting in home
but mom and dad every night.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
Yeah, they're not gonna want especially if if they earn
their car with their own money, they're not gonna risk it.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Well even even if of it if they're using mom
and dad's car to have mom and dad lose their
car because they they gave the car, they allowed the child,
the kid, the the young person to use the car. Uh,
and that car was involved in the commission of a
crime and it's confiscated. I think we got to start
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thinking outside the box here, you know, and I know
that the ACLU will come and say, where you're calling
confiscate someone's car. Well, if you can confiscate their car
because it was it was it was necessary, it was
used in drug dealing. You got to be able to
get from point A to point B. Why not?
Speaker 9 (20:32):
This just the thought I want to get back to
smashion grab kids that a lot of these kids are juvenile.
You've got some fifteen year old kids out there smash
and grabbing. How about the put some heat on the parents,
you know, them responsible. If your dog ran down the
street and up the neighbor's kids, you're on the hook
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for that. You're responsible.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, you're going to be responsible. From a similar civil
point of view, there was the case said Michigan where
that kid went in and shot and killed some students
in Michigan and both of his parents were put in
jail because they did.
Speaker 9 (21:10):
The handgun They left the gun line around the house.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, yeah, so I don't know that you can. I
think by taking the car away and linking the car
to the crime and that being the rationale for taking
the car away, I think I think that's that's going
to cost some some concern within the family, just the thought,
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just the thought, Hey, Tom, I gotta let you run
because the minute of my newscast. Thanks for calling, Okay,
appreciate it very much. Bottom line is, I think everyone
agrees tonight we have to do whatever we can do
to stop this. This this petty it's it's not petty crime,
but it's it's crime that anybody can engage in. I mean,
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the the people who stole the diamonds and the heirlooms
from the Louver the other day, they had to really
work on that for a while. It doesn't take much
to go into a Lulu Lemon or somewhere like that,
and it should not take much for the justice system
to snap back at these kids when they're when they're
doing this at that level, I have wide open lines.
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I'd love to continue on this. If not, I have
another topic I'm willing to go to, and I also
have a correspondent today which I have to read. But
in the meantime, light the phone lines up six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
This Dan Ray, It's a Monday night. Is a very
strong start for the week. I thank everyone, especially my
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new callers Evelyn from Boston and Kevin from Rhode Island,
and Ellen from Boston and Tom from Somerville. Our first no, Tom,
not from now Torran. Excuse me, it was not Tom
Torrn from Somerville. So we've had a bunch of new
callers tonight back on night Side. We have a half
an hour left. Let's make the most of it. Coming back.
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We are we are speaking for the average person on
this program. Okay, we don't endorse the theft. We are
talking about the people who are victims of crime, and
I hope you'll join us in support of that and
either waking these politicians and these prosecutors up in there.
There's some really good ones in Massachusetts, but there's some
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real losers as well. Let's wake them up and make
them get with the program. Our program, back on night Side.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
It's Night Side with Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
We have talked for two and a half hours tonight
about the groups of young people, and they do appear
to be young people on cameras who have been going
into some of the high end retail stores on Newberry
Street in Boston and around the city by the way,
elsewhere in the city as well. We had ed Flynn
with US City Councilor from nine to ten, Boston City Councilor,
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and he made the point that you have these kids,
some of them are driving scooters, they have their quick mobility,
get in, get out, grab as much as you can.
And look, we've had a variety of top of ideas
tonight as to how maybe we can improve the security
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in these stores. These kids. You saw the video again,
I keep using we're kids. They're not kids. They're these
young people, teenagers maybe early twenties. They know that there
are security cameras in the store. So the video has
been broadcast on all the Boston television stations, but it's
happening everywhere everywhere. So you have this pilferage not only
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the outlandish actions of going into stores and just ripping
as much article, as many articles of clothing as you
can off the rack and just racing out out of
the store. So we've had we've covered that and you can.
You can check it out on Night's Side on demand
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tomorrow and listen to the nine and ten or the
first half hour of the eleven. What I want to
do is I want to share with you a bit
of a frustration that I had earlier today. So I'm
going to if I can find this note that I
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was saying. Yeah. So I'm not going to identify the
person who send me the note, but a person sent
me a note, and I'm just going to give you
a quick read on it. Okay, The individual writes, Dear Dan,
I've written before. I respect your knowledge and a broad
spectrum of current events. I don't think you like Trump,
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but your ratings are dependent on engaging as many listeners
as possible. I understand this, but I turn off the
show when the conversation turns to Trump. Now, the conversation
is not turned to Trump tonight, but that's okay. It's
about you. By the way, I think we agree on
legal immigrants. He's against legal immigration. I'm strong, but for fear,
crime enforcement, better health and medical research for illnesses, and
(26:08):
meaningful education. Okay, okay, so your show on Friday night.
Last Friday night, we did an hour and asked listeners
if they were optimistic about the future of the country. Well,
we really didn't ask it that way, but that's okay.
We asked people whether they were optimist or pessimists. I'm
doom and gloom over. I'm not doom and gloom over,
but I don't seem much to make me optimistic about either.
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He goes on and tell me that Trump is cruel, evil,
severely unbalanced, narcissistic bully. He doesn't see much hope in Schuman,
Harris and the Democratic Party full of people soft on
crime and legal immigration, national that just to name a few.
I see masses voting against someone as they're voting for someone.
These are the choices we were given. This will only
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continue to divide us as a country. Nothing too optimistic here.
So the guys like a total downer, Okay, So I
wrote him back. I thought I'd a fairly polite response.
I said, Hi, mentioned his first name, give me a call,
gave my number, love to chat. I want pro Trump
and anti Trump callers. I love to explain to you,
as you've explained to me, how I reconcile conflict between
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Trump's policy, some of which are good, with some of
his policies and ramblings, which are not good at all.
I sure wish that you would remain a listener and
become a more active caller. Tonight's side all the best,
Dan Right, thank you for the reply. My friend writes,
I listen, but not when the conversation turns to Trump.
Cad't do it. I'm an old country conservative leaning moderate,
(27:37):
whatever the hell that means. Now he just launches on Trump.
I know politicians lie, but not like this guy in
his cabinet. I'm fearful his mouth will get us into
serious economic or god forbid, a real war. Guy hates Trump.
I'm not a good, very good talker, but a pretty
good listener. I like many of your guests. Look, I
(28:01):
wasted my time answering that email today. I'd like to
know if you agree with me on that. I think
I wasted my time because I want the gentleman wrote
an email that I thought was heartfelt, and I responded,
I said, give me a call, we can discuss it.
I do want people who have different views on this program.
(28:24):
That's what I've wanted from the day we began this program.
So I'm going to finish up tonight. I'm going to
save my topic. We're going to talk tomorrow night about
the fact that gas prices are now below three dollars
a gallon across the country. Thank god gas prices are down.
I will talk about that tomorrow night. I can't give it.
(28:46):
If you'd like to comment on it, I have fifteen minutes,
and if you'd like to say, hey, I'm thankful that
gas prices are down. We have a lot of doom
and gloom, and I think my writer was kind of
a doom and gloom guy. My question is did I
waste my time responding his email today? It took me
(29:07):
probably five minutes. It was five minutes that I won't
get back. I was hoping he would have the courtesy
to give me a call. We can have a conversation.
That's what we do here on night Side. I don't
read emails. I read his denight to show you what
a despondent individual sounds like. Guess what you had two elections.
(29:31):
You had two choices last last November. You voted either
for one or the other, or you voted against, and
therefore you voted for the other. Simple as that. Wake up,
grow up. I'm going to ask right now. I got
fifteen minutes left. The new numbers from the Triple A
(29:53):
and from gas Buddy suggest gasoline prices have not been
as low in this country since two tho twenty one.
I celebrate that I drive a car. My car is
gasoline powered. Maybe I'm a neanderthal. Maybe you're in the
endothal give me a call if you If you disagree
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and you're sad that gas prices are down, feel free
to give us a call either as well. Six one seven,
two five four ten thirty. That's one line six one seven,
nine three one ten thirty. And also, did I make
a mistake? Should I answer emails like that in the future?
Because I only have so much time during the day,
(30:34):
I get phone calls from people all the time. I
would like your input on it. I really would join us.
We'll be back right after this.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
All right, let's keep rolling here. Let me go to
Daryl and up in Canada. Hey, Darryl, thank you for
your tip on that baseball card story the other night.
We were able to put it on Friday Night. I
hope you heard it.
Speaker 10 (30:59):
I heard the last end of it, but all I
heard was the clip and you know, basically I just
called Lefty the messaging.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Well, no, you were very kind to point that out.
It turned out it was a story out of Providence,
Rhode Island, and we were able to track it down.
And if you listen to Friday Nights nine o'clock hour,
you'll you'll hear it. It's a really interesting story as
you as you told us. The guy bought an old
trunk from the turn of the century, the turn of
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the twenty twentieth century for seventy five dollars and paste
it on the inside of the cover of the trunk
were I don't know coase to one hundred and twenty
baseball cards from nineteen hundred around that and the glue
on the I thought that the glue on the baseball
cards would make the baseball cards worthless. I guess the
(31:49):
glue would drive up and they were able to take
the baseball cards off pretty easily, and some of them
are really valuable. So thank you for the tip. Daryl.
Speaker 10 (31:58):
Hey, you're most welcome, and that might be a positive
for somebody else that there might be another trunk out
there well, for or.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Another A group of baseball cars was on Facebook marketplace
what's your what's your take on what we're talking.
Speaker 10 (32:14):
About tonight, Daryl, uh, I was calling in reference to
the email, and obviously the guy he's a negative nelly, right,
I would say, no, So, yeah, I'm surprised you didn't
give him the plank. You should do the paper swatters
for the emailing.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Well, I guess so, but that he's no one else
is going to hear it. But yeah, I wanted to
talk to the gentleman because it was where were It
was a very well written email. I understand that, and
I just wanted to say, what good does it do
you to send me an email? You know, if you're
sending me an email to ask a question, I'll try
to answer it, okay, But what good is it doing
(32:50):
to send you send me an email complaining about what
people said. We're a talk show. I don't read emails,
I don't read text messages. We do. We're a talk show.
Any way.
Speaker 10 (33:01):
Well, what it does is it actually examples of what
a lot of your callers say about how fair and
balanced you are.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Appreciate it, and.
Speaker 10 (33:09):
That's why they that's why they listen, Daryl.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I appreciate that. That's the that's that's the highest compliment
someone can give me. Thank you, my friend. We will
talk soon. Okay, thank you.
Speaker 10 (33:19):
Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna go look for trunks and
baseball cards.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Uh look, look for that. And also you can look
for those uh O'Ryan IDEs. They they they there's some
shooting stars out there tonight, so give a look. Okay,
southeast to southwest horizon.
Speaker 10 (33:34):
All right, you bet you buddy.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Thank You'll talk to you soon. Let me go to
II Leen in wal Damn I Lean you were next
on nightside. Thanks for calling in. Hi Eileen? How are you?
Speaker 7 (33:44):
Hi?
Speaker 11 (33:44):
Dan?
Speaker 12 (33:44):
How are you deceive me? I have to reiterate what
that gentleman just said. And that's what makes your program
so interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Well, thank you. That's very kind to both you and
Darryl of saying that.
Speaker 12 (33:57):
Well, it is because I don't always agree with you.
You probably know that.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Sure, but I can.
Speaker 12 (34:02):
But if I don't listen to the other size opinion,
I might I just might learn something brilliant.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Absolute you know, so so clean, so clear, so brilliant.
Speaker 12 (34:13):
Why not listen to me because and occasionally I've changed
my mind?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I do too.
Speaker 12 (34:20):
Are the ones who I could disagree with?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I know sometimes I'm embarrassed by the people I agree with.
Speaker 12 (34:27):
But no, but I mean, you might just listen. You
just might learn that little something. You might change your opinion.
You might not, but you're not going to learn anything
if you don't listen to anybody else.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Well, what I do is I do try. I probably
answer more emails of emails that are negative. Then the
people will send me complimentary emails and I'll respond. I
try to thank you very much, keep listening, or something
like that. But when I try to write an email
in which I was hoping that this gentlemen would give
(35:01):
me a call, and I would say, look, we need
your voice, you whether you agree with me or disagree
with me. But but it's just didn't. Didn't it didn't.
He wasn't interested. So I gotta let it go. Hey, Aileen,
I gotta let you go.
Speaker 12 (35:14):
He couldn't respond to your good will, I guess not.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
I thank you so much for your call.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
I really do.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Thanks Eileen. We'll talk too, And I got three more here,
going to try to get them all in. Mike and
f all Mike next on nisaka.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
Right ahead, good evening, damn, how are you today?
Speaker 10 (35:30):
Quick?
Speaker 7 (35:31):
I thank you speaking about I mean baseball cards. How
many did we do I'm in my almost in my sixties.
How many did we sling across the room at one another?
And damn it them in? Oh my, thousands of dollars
in cards?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yes, if we had just been swanding any take take
them and put them in in case them if you
had like a Mickey Bantle or a Ted Williams card.
Speaker 7 (35:54):
And it was if we could only go back in time, right, Well,
well we didn't know back then. And uh the other
thing was you remember service merchandise? Sure, yep, great store. Right,
they would have had a tough time robbing that place.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Well, that is true.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
One of everything everywhere and you had to pay for it.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah. And also right, okay, I didn't go into that
store a little bit, but they were. There were some
big ticket items and they were heavy items. So that's
not what these folks are looking for. Hey, Mike, have
you called before or no? Ever?
Speaker 7 (36:25):
No, we had a whole bunch.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Of first time callers tonight. This has been an extraordinary night.
Thank you, Mike. I really appreciate it. Come on back soon.
I think you're you're similar to me, probably in age
and also interest. Thank you.
Speaker 7 (36:38):
My friend, and I love the way you get people
to engage in conversation. That's that's it's a great thing.
It's great talent.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Well, I want you to come back soon and we'll
do it again. Thanks Mike, talk to you so. Have
a great night. All right, I got two. I'm gonna
get a both in Tom and Dorchester. Tom, go right ahead.
Speaker 11 (36:53):
All right, Dan, I'm kind of dischested with Donald Trump.
Oil companies are not going to make good profits that
they should make with these lower questions. He's just trying
to make the defense industry absolutely with all these peace
all his peace breaking out all over the world, and
he is trying to get us the highest social security rate.
(37:14):
I am disgusted.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
I am disgusted.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Thank you, Dan, Tom. She's best best call in a
wild Tom. I love, I love, I know irony, and
I know sarcasm, and you did a great job tonight. Tom.
Thank you so much. Come on back soon. Thanks buddy,
appreciate that. Thanks. By last of the night. James and Portsmouth.
I'm assuming it's Sportsman's New Hampshire James, Yes, Sir, could
(37:38):
be Portsmouth, Rhode Island, but we'll call it New Hampshire.
Go right ahead, James. You you got the final word
of the night.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Go right ahead, all right, I'll be quick about the email. Yeah,
I'm gonna give you credit. You have patience, and you
proved it last week when you had that lovely discussion
with the lady named Aida. Yes, her mind was completely
fixed over the Israeli Palestinian situation.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Well, you know, James, she sent me a really long
email and she explained her set of circumstances to me.
I'm not going to read that because she disclosed some
private issues. She's forty year old woman, and she obviously
has had a different set of experiences maybe than you
and I. And I sent her an email today. I
actually sent it to her last night, and I hope
(38:25):
to hear back from her. I basically, she's dealing with
a tough circumstance which will remain between us, none of
us would would welcome. And I complimented her and I said,
thank you for trying to express yourself. I said, I
think we ended up talking past each other. I hope
she will call again and we'll have even a better conversation.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Yeah. Well, if you keep this up, you're almost becoming
a conservative.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Congratulations, I can think of myself as a conservative, James,
I think you know that. I mean, I get more critical,
I get criticism from both sides. But I think tomorrow
night we're going to talk about gas prices and President
Trump needs to be commended. Gas prices and now down
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at a four year long we'll talk about that tomorrow night.
I intended to talk about it tonight, but we just
we were too good on trying to get these district
attorneys to change some of their attitudes towards towards retail theft. James,
I appreciate it. Have you called before? Have you called before?
Keep calling? Flying to Abada, Okay, keep calling, keep calling. Okay,
(39:34):
whether you agree with me or disagree with me. I
need you both ways, whether you agree or disagree.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
Okay, all right, Sure you have a good evening, you.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Too, James, appreciate it. Great night tonight, looking forward to
my postgame. I will be on night. Start with Dan
Ray in about two minutes. Give me about two minutes
to catch my breath, Rob Brooks, great job, busy night.
I want to thank everybody who called, new callers or
regular callers. Thank you so much. We're back tomorrow, I
promise all dogs all cats, all pets go to heaven.
(40:03):
That's why Pal Charlie Rays, who passed fifteen years ago
in February, that's all your pets are who had passed.
They loved you and you loved them. We'll see again
tomorrow night, everybody. I'll see on Facebook night side with
Dan Ray in a couple of minutes. Be there of
B Square. Thank you so much for a great Tuesday. Everyone,
It's night with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And for those of you who are Seattle Mariners fans,
realize that the Mariners are the only team in Major
League Baseball that has never played in a World Series.
Oh so close. They lose four to three. All right,
we're going to continue talking about retail thefts in Boston,
but unless we light these lines up, I have a
different topic we're going to get to. So let me
(00:27):
finish up with John, who was a holdover caller from
last hour. John, you had another point you wanted to make.
Go right ahead.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah, I appreciate it, Dan, And this I'm looking for
your legal expertise on this question. Now, residence in business.
Sometimes a business don't business, don't own the property, but
somebody's paying that property tax. Isn't part of that property
tax supposed to be protection from the government that we're
paying taxes to.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And protection from the government.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
No, no, I'm sorry that the government is supposed to
protect the business.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Well, the government, No, it's not quite that clear. What
the idea is that part of your property taxes which
you pay to the city here in Massachusetts would be
to support the police department and also to support the
fire department and right all of that, but but you
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could still have a fire. I mean if if the
fire department chose not to show up and said, well,
we think they have property, No, that's never going to happen,
and the police department might not get there in time
to apprehend the thieves.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Blood That isn't the city obligator to do everything in
its power to prevent these crimes.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Such, well, it's not everything in their power. They're supposed
to provide police protection, but they can't stop every crime.
The problem is they coddle the criminals and instead of saying, look,
you and three other people just went in and you
stole you know, twenty seven one hundred dollars in total,
(02:05):
or four thousand dollars in total. This was a conspiracy.
We're going to charge each of you with the stealing
the four thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Know.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
What they try to do is they'll say, wow, that
person only had you know, one point two you know
on one point two thousand dollars, and we don't prosecute
for that, So we're not going to prosecute that. It's
they have basically watered down criminal law to the point
where it almost encourages thieves if i'm if I'm someone
(02:34):
who's a professional thief or someone who's inclined to become
a thief, And they say to me, always a second,
if I steal less than twelve hundred, I'm not going
to be arrested. I'm not going to be prosecuted, Thank
you very much. Rachel rawlins, Oh yeah, I may not
do it because because or you might not do it
because you have a higher moral code and you understand
(02:55):
that by stealing from someone else, that's that's wrong, morally wrong.
And in addition, even if you steal or someone steals
from a company and the company has insurance for it,
their insurance rates are going to go up. Just like
if you have a bunch of car accidents, your automobile
insurance rates will go up. Uh. But but you can't
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pass along as a driver your increased automobile insurance rates.
But the company is going to pass on the additional
rates that they now have to pay next year to
their customers. So everybody suffers.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And I think l A, they finally got rid of
their soft arm crime.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Da Garson whatever his name was, he remember.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
They showed two girls were arrested and they realize, uh, oh,
they don't play around anymore. They caught up. The whole
conversation was caught on video, and you can hear one
of them say Westcrew, basically paraphrase Westcrew. These new people
don't play around anymore.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I hear you. I mean that one. And the prosecutor
out there is I think he is a pretty good prosecutor.
From what I can understand. He came out against giving
some form of pardon or clemency to the Menendez brothers,
the two who killed their parents many many, many years ago.
(04:23):
I don't know enough about the case to know the
ins and outs of it, so I don't want to
offer an opinion. But he looked at it, and he
came back and concluded that the Melenda's brothers needed to
stay in prison. So thank you very much, Thank you
very much. I appreciate it. John, keep calling the show.
All right, Let me get one more in here. If
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you want to talk about these retail thefts in Boston
and what can be done other than probably getting new
public officials, but what can be done in the short term,
feel free. Let me go to Dwayne in New Hampshire. Dwayne,
you are next on Nightsager Right.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Ahead, say Dan, can you I can hear you perfectly.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Like your next door a right one of the best
audios of the night.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Go ahead, Oh listen, I can tell you a million stories.
Been in retail for over thirty eight years. Not enough
time to tell you everything that I've seen over my lifetime.
But this is something that can't be stopped unless we
start prosecuting. For Back in the day, you know, five
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ten dollars we used to prosecute. Nowadays they you have
your local police department. They don't want to want you
to call them if it's not a prosecuting like level
of one thousand dollars more. And I know summer twelve,
but twenty years ago I ran a big retail store
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and it was one point two percent shrinkage out of
a retail store.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
But that that's a nice word, that's a nice euphemism
meaning nothing shrank. One point two percent of the merchandise
disappeared because of theft.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
And that's one store in this company, and it had
in store security. So all these things these folks are
saying are great. I love your idea, there's too much
risk surrounded by it, and it's just there's just nothing
(06:37):
is going to stop it unless they start prosecuting. And
they yeah, and they don't have enough police force. And
they were saying earlier to go back and and go
to be bothered by these small little crimes when there's
so much other crime going on.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Well, that's part of it, and at the same time.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
That's kind of what you're dealing with.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, but these small little crimes on a small store
can put that store out of business. If you're you
said that you were running a big store of some sort,
don't have to tell us which one it was. But
if a big store loses one point two percent of
their merchandise, that's tough. But the big store might be
(07:22):
able to make up that loss or you know that
shrink into using that euphemism. But if you're a mom
and pop store and you have a bodego somewhere, and
I hope I'm pronouncing that that we're properly a small
variety store, uh A, in a relatively poor area. You're
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providing a vital service to people in that community. And
if that service goes away, that community is going to
suffer consequences.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Absolutely absolutely will.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
But there's no focus, there's no focus on that the
politicians could talk about, Well, you know, these are the
young kids. We're not talking about some kid who gets
caught smoking a joint, you know, behind the football bleachers
in high school. We're not talking about cracking down and
treating that kid as some sort of big time drug dealer.
We're not talking about a kid a couple of kids
who have a six pack behind behind you know, whatever,
(08:17):
uh you could show, you can show. The criminal justice
system has always shown mercy to individuals first time offenders.
But when you basically say you can you can steal
up to twelve hundred dollars and you're going to be
immune from prosecution, that's insane. That's not this leadership.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
And the last the last retail store I worked for
before I retired, was it was you did not approach people.
They can walk out with whatever they wanted. You could
not do anything, you couldn't stop them, and it was
it was a it's a free for all. And that's
the mentality out there right now, and it's a shame.
(08:59):
But the pop stores they have to do something different
from them because they're not going to steal twelve hundred
bucks from a small mom and pop store.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
No, but they can. They can steal fifty fifty bucks
this day, twenty bucks the next.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Day, and they can lead them dry you bet you.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Hey, Dwayne, have you called from New Hampshire before or no?
Is this your first time calling?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I have dan, I'm sorry. I wish I could say
it was my first.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
No, no, no, no, thank you very much, thank you
very much. I appreciate it. I hope you'll continue to call.
It was great call. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I have a great night, great topic.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
All right, we're gonna take a break. Thank you, sir.
Good night. We'll take a quick break here and I'll
tell you what I'm going to give you about five
minutes if you want to continue this conversation. It's been
really inspiring because people really have responded to this, which
I appreciate because it is not easy, uh, coming up
with ideas and subjects that people want to talk about.
(10:02):
I'm going to read at some point tonight an interesting
comment from a listener. I'm not going to identify him,
but I will read that before the hour is up.
So if you want to continue to talk about that,
what are we going to do with these people who
basically are robbing stores? Blind? You saw the video over
(10:23):
the weekend, people running into a small Lulu Lemon store.
Those are not big stores. On Newbury Street, there are
a thousand square foot stores. If they're that and they
just go in broad daylight, doesn't matter. They scoop as
many items with hangars off the rack as possible, and
they book it for the door, and nobody stops them
(10:45):
and they're never caught. And I just think that, Hey,
why are those stores paying real estate taxes in Boston?
If that's the lack of response they get not only
from the police department, but from prosecutors. It's the rank
and file officers, it's the people who are setting policies.
Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty six one seven,
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nine three, ten thirty. This is a very quick break,
So down quickly. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay, back we go. Let me get to Matt real quickly. Here, Matt,
got you up next, Go right ahead, Matt.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
Day, Dan Hydron, hope you had a good weekend, had.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
A great weekend. What's your take on all of this? Matt?
Speaker 6 (11:32):
You know, I see all over a lot of these
stop and hits where people are running as you mentioned
in the video, and just break windows, grab a bunch
of high merchandise items in some places and run right
back out.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
And that you see these bodegas, these mom and pop
shops that people will not because it won't be the
same level of merchandise, but will really hit you know
where it's most thoughtful, and that's for the communities they
have are served by these you know, mom and pop shops,
(12:13):
and you know they are just long term Excuse me,
they are just long term shops for serving the community.
And in the ends of the law, it's both going
to be the same until when you find out that man,
I tell you value of the item. These things are
always going to happen everywhere, you know, having a way
(12:37):
to curtail it. Just don't see if there's anybody occurred
to happen.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Well, I'm not exactly sure the point you're trying to make,
but I think the I think the point I'm hearing
correct me if I'm wrong, is that, yeah, that when
you have a small mom and pop store, I call
it a variety store, a padago, whatever, bodego, a market
in a community on the corner store, and they provide
(13:08):
when someone needs to get some medication or you know,
just a bottle of aspirin or a bottle of adveil,
or a half a gallon of milk or whatever it is,
you're a loaf of bread. Those stores run on a
very tight or thin margin. They're not making a million dollars, okay.
These are people who are literally Sometimes it's family members
(13:31):
who are who are providing support for their own family.
They get on, they go out of business, and then
when they go out of business, then the politicians have
been saying, well, we are a food desert here. There's
nobody that's available here. How come they're on supermarkets here?
Well that's tragic, that's absolutely tragic.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
That's the coin I am trying to make. The main
point too, is that the law if you're stealing a
ten dollar bar of candy one of these places there
are one hundred dollars of food from these local shops
or versus like a Lulu money, you steal something for
one hundred, the law is not going to look at
it in between what once a corporate and to see
(14:12):
it's there, right.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
But I think they have to look at it and say,
look it doesn't matter if it's a moment pop store
or if it's corporation day. They are providing a service
to the community, whether it's again food or clothes or whatever.
And these people need protection. And you when you have
politicians come in and say we're not going to prosecute
people if they seal less than twelve hundred dollars, well,
(14:36):
guess what. There's a certain percentage of people in our
society who are inclined to steal, and if you're basically
giving them license to steal, which is crazy, as simple
as that. Hey, Matt, I appreciate you called good points
you made. Thank you as always, We will talk soon, okay,
thank you, sure, all right, thank you. Right back at you.
Let me get David new Hampshire.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
Dave.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I want to get you in here before the news
at the bottom of the ar Go right ahead, Dave.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
Hey, how you doing, Dan.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I'm doing great. You take on all of this.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
Yeah, Hey, you've been in the hotels where you hang
up your clothes and you can't take the hangers off
the pipe. Yeah, you have to see that. Yeah, why
don't they do that that way? They can't? Yes, yank
the whole thing. They end up yanking nothing.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Well, they can. They can. They can take the clothes
off the hanger. I mean if when you when you
hang up a shirt in a hot and a hanger
like that, I think it's an interesting idea. They certainly
can't sweep up twenty hangers, but they could. They could
take a pull shirts, pants, whatever they it would be.
It probably would be an investment. If I were the
(15:41):
owner of Lulu Lemon, then I say, well, that's a
pretty good that's going to minimize what they can do
in one fell Swamp. But yeah, but it's not going
to prevent them from coming in and doing what they
want to do, which is basically rip people off.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
And the other the other idea I was second. You
know how you and the old shoe stores like we
used to go in. My mother would take me in
and the salesman would pitch your for shoes, what size
you wear. He'd go in the back room and take
the shoes out, not like you go to Bob's store
or something and the sneakers all over the place. Yeah,
(16:17):
there's only one sample out there. Like you go in
the Macy's, there's a sample out there, usually only one shoe.
So you can't steal the sample.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
No, right, Well, it's a serious problem, and I think
that we need to treat it more seriously. We've had
some really good suggestions tonight, and I am happy about it.
I am happy about it, and yours is a good
one as well. And I didn't think that we'd get
two and a half hours out of this topic. But
(16:44):
there's a sense out there that people are outraged, and
I'm outraged about it as well, and I hope, I
hope someone does something about it. And I think they
got to write immediately make announcements from district attorney's offices
that if you come into this district and you shoplift,
you'll be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
(17:05):
And the full extent of the law doesn't have a
limit on how much you can you can shoplift. You
shoplift anything, We're coming after you.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
Yeah, that's right, all right, all right, beg you, Dave, Okay,
take care.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Thank you for your call. Appreciate it very much. Okay,
I'm gonna try one more here before the break, and
then we will break for news. Tom and Norton, go
right ahead, Tom, You're next on Night Side.
Speaker 9 (17:31):
Hey, Dan, thanks for having me on. And I do
feel bad for anybody that's running a small business than
continuing gets wiped out like that. Well, yeah, just just
too soft. And nobody's afraid of going to jail because
nobody goes to jail when they catch people doing this
fashion grab stuff. What if they were to you know,
suspend their driver's licenses, just really inconvenience these people to
(17:55):
the point where they don't want to do it, or
perhaps if they're in any type of government assistance situation
that you that you deny them their further assistance if
they're not playing by.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
The rule should be Yeah, I think those I think
those are positive ideas. I think one of the things
that I talked about last week, which is kind of
similar to what you're suggesting. You know, these kids who
were doing the street meetups and they're taking over intersections
and they're driving cars wildly, which is dangerous for them
(18:26):
and also for other people. The group that lit the
police car on fire here in Boston a couple of
weeks ago, and the two kids from Rhode Island are
facing charges of that. You're familiar with that stuff, right.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
They would make watch some roadway highway accident.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well, here's what I think. I think that if someone
is arrested, uh in one of those street meetups, that
if the governor was really serious about her cracking down
on that. Just as if you are using your car
to transport and sell drugs, they can confiscate your car
(19:06):
because it would used in the in the in the
in the criminal activity selling drugs, or if they.
Speaker 9 (19:12):
Said a lot of money side up in their car.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Exactly, basically, we're gonna confiscate the car. You're gonna lose
the right because your car is it is. Without your car,
you can't do these meetups, you can't get to the
meetups without the car, you can't drive in circles and
do donuts in the street, and so therefore you lose
your car. That will stop that immediately when a few
(19:39):
kids lose their cars, because kids that age, their car
is their lifeline. Without their car, they're sitting in home
but mom and dad every night.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
Yeah, they're not gonna want especially if if they earn
their car with their own money, they're not gonna risk it.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Well even even if of it if they're using mom
and dad's car to have mom and dad lose their
car because they they gave the car, they allowed the child,
the kid, the the young person to use the car. Uh,
and that car was involved in the commission of a
crime and it's confiscated. I think we got to start
(20:17):
thinking outside the box here, you know, and I know
that the ACLU will come and say, where you're calling
confiscate someone's car. Well, if you can confiscate their car
because it was it was it was necessary, it was
used in drug dealing. You got to be able to
get from point A to point B. Why not?
Speaker 9 (20:32):
This just the thought I want to get back to
smashion grab kids that a lot of these kids are juvenile.
You've got some fifteen year old kids out there smash
and grabbing. How about the put some heat on the parents,
you know, them responsible. If your dog ran down the
street and up the neighbor's kids, you're on the hook
(20:53):
for that. You're responsible.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, you're going to be responsible. From a similar civil
point of view, there was the case said Michigan where
that kid went in and shot and killed some students
in Michigan and both of his parents were put in
jail because they did.
Speaker 9 (21:10):
The handgun They left the gun line around the house.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, yeah, so I don't know that you can. I
think by taking the car away and linking the car
to the crime and that being the rationale for taking
the car away, I think I think that's that's going
to cost some some concern within the family, just the thought,
(21:34):
just the thought, Hey, Tom, I gotta let you run
because the minute of my newscast. Thanks for calling, Okay,
appreciate it very much. Bottom line is, I think everyone
agrees tonight we have to do whatever we can do
to stop this. This this petty it's it's not petty crime,
but it's it's crime that anybody can engage in. I mean,
(21:55):
the the people who stole the diamonds and the heirlooms
from the Louver the other day, they had to really
work on that for a while. It doesn't take much
to go into a Lulu Lemon or somewhere like that,
and it should not take much for the justice system
to snap back at these kids when they're when they're
doing this at that level, I have wide open lines.
(22:18):
I'd love to continue on this. If not, I have
another topic I'm willing to go to, and I also
have a correspondent today which I have to read. But
in the meantime, light the phone lines up six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
This Dan Ray, It's a Monday night. Is a very
strong start for the week. I thank everyone, especially my
(22:38):
new callers Evelyn from Boston and Kevin from Rhode Island,
and Ellen from Boston and Tom from Somerville. Our first no, Tom,
not from now Torran. Excuse me, it was not Tom
Torrn from Somerville. So we've had a bunch of new
callers tonight back on night Side. We have a half
an hour left. Let's make the most of it. Coming back.
(22:58):
We are we are speaking for the average person on
this program. Okay, we don't endorse the theft. We are
talking about the people who are victims of crime, and
I hope you'll join us in support of that and
either waking these politicians and these prosecutors up in there.
There's some really good ones in Massachusetts, but there's some
(23:18):
real losers as well. Let's wake them up and make
them get with the program. Our program, back on night Side.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
It's Night Side with Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
We have talked for two and a half hours tonight
about the groups of young people, and they do appear
to be young people on cameras who have been going
into some of the high end retail stores on Newberry
Street in Boston and around the city by the way,
elsewhere in the city as well. We had ed Flynn
with US City Councilor from nine to ten, Boston City Councilor,
(23:58):
and he made the point that you have these kids,
some of them are driving scooters, they have their quick mobility,
get in, get out, grab as much as you can.
And look, we've had a variety of top of ideas
tonight as to how maybe we can improve the security
(24:19):
in these stores. These kids. You saw the video again,
I keep using we're kids. They're not kids. They're these
young people, teenagers maybe early twenties. They know that there
are security cameras in the store. So the video has
been broadcast on all the Boston television stations, but it's
happening everywhere everywhere. So you have this pilferage not only
(24:41):
the outlandish actions of going into stores and just ripping
as much article, as many articles of clothing as you
can off the rack and just racing out out of
the store. So we've had we've covered that and you can.
You can check it out on Night's Side on demand
(25:01):
tomorrow and listen to the nine and ten or the
first half hour of the eleven. What I want to
do is I want to share with you a bit
of a frustration that I had earlier today. So I'm
going to if I can find this note that I
(25:22):
was saying. Yeah. So I'm not going to identify the
person who send me the note, but a person sent
me a note, and I'm just going to give you
a quick read on it. Okay, The individual writes, Dear Dan,
I've written before. I respect your knowledge and a broad
spectrum of current events. I don't think you like Trump,
(25:44):
but your ratings are dependent on engaging as many listeners
as possible. I understand this, but I turn off the
show when the conversation turns to Trump. Now, the conversation
is not turned to Trump tonight, but that's okay. It's
about you. By the way, I think we agree on
legal immigrants. He's against legal immigration. I'm strong, but for fear,
crime enforcement, better health and medical research for illnesses, and
(26:08):
meaningful education. Okay, okay, so your show on Friday night.
Last Friday night, we did an hour and asked listeners
if they were optimistic about the future of the country. Well,
we really didn't ask it that way, but that's okay.
We asked people whether they were optimist or pessimists. I'm
doom and gloom over. I'm not doom and gloom over,
but I don't seem much to make me optimistic about either.
(26:30):
He goes on and tell me that Trump is cruel, evil,
severely unbalanced, narcissistic bully. He doesn't see much hope in Schuman,
Harris and the Democratic Party full of people soft on
crime and legal immigration, national that just to name a few.
I see masses voting against someone as they're voting for someone.
These are the choices we were given. This will only
(26:52):
continue to divide us as a country. Nothing too optimistic here.
So the guys like a total downer, Okay, So I
wrote him back. I thought I'd a fairly polite response.
I said, Hi, mentioned his first name, give me a call,
gave my number, love to chat. I want pro Trump
and anti Trump callers. I love to explain to you,
as you've explained to me, how I reconcile conflict between
(27:14):
Trump's policy, some of which are good, with some of
his policies and ramblings, which are not good at all.
I sure wish that you would remain a listener and
become a more active caller. Tonight's side all the best,
Dan Right, thank you for the reply. My friend writes,
I listen, but not when the conversation turns to Trump.
Cad't do it. I'm an old country conservative leaning moderate,
(27:37):
whatever the hell that means. Now he just launches on Trump.
I know politicians lie, but not like this guy in
his cabinet. I'm fearful his mouth will get us into
serious economic or god forbid, a real war. Guy hates Trump.
I'm not a good, very good talker, but a pretty
good listener. I like many of your guests. Look, I
(28:01):
wasted my time answering that email today. I'd like to
know if you agree with me on that. I think
I wasted my time because I want the gentleman wrote
an email that I thought was heartfelt, and I responded,
I said, give me a call, we can discuss it.
I do want people who have different views on this program.
(28:24):
That's what I've wanted from the day we began this program.
So I'm going to finish up tonight. I'm going to
save my topic. We're going to talk tomorrow night about
the fact that gas prices are now below three dollars
a gallon across the country. Thank god gas prices are down.
I will talk about that tomorrow night. I can't give it.
(28:46):
If you'd like to comment on it, I have fifteen minutes,
and if you'd like to say, hey, I'm thankful that
gas prices are down. We have a lot of doom
and gloom, and I think my writer was kind of
a doom and gloom guy. My question is did I
waste my time responding his email today? It took me
(29:07):
probably five minutes. It was five minutes that I won't
get back. I was hoping he would have the courtesy
to give me a call. We can have a conversation.
That's what we do here on night Side. I don't
read emails. I read his denight to show you what
a despondent individual sounds like. Guess what you had two elections.
(29:31):
You had two choices last last November. You voted either
for one or the other, or you voted against, and
therefore you voted for the other. Simple as that. Wake up,
grow up. I'm going to ask right now. I got
fifteen minutes left. The new numbers from the Triple A
(29:53):
and from gas Buddy suggest gasoline prices have not been
as low in this country since two tho twenty one.
I celebrate that I drive a car. My car is
gasoline powered. Maybe I'm a neanderthal. Maybe you're in the
endothal give me a call if you If you disagree
(30:14):
and you're sad that gas prices are down, feel free
to give us a call either as well. Six one seven,
two five four ten thirty. That's one line six one seven,
nine three one ten thirty. And also, did I make
a mistake? Should I answer emails like that in the future?
Because I only have so much time during the day,
(30:34):
I get phone calls from people all the time. I
would like your input on it. I really would join us.
We'll be back right after this.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
All right, let's keep rolling here. Let me go to
Daryl and up in Canada. Hey, Darryl, thank you for
your tip on that baseball card story the other night.
We were able to put it on Friday Night. I
hope you heard it.
Speaker 10 (30:59):
I heard the last end of it, but all I
heard was the clip and you know, basically I just
called Lefty the messaging.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Well, no, you were very kind to point that out.
It turned out it was a story out of Providence,
Rhode Island, and we were able to track it down.
And if you listen to Friday Nights nine o'clock hour,
you'll you'll hear it. It's a really interesting story as
you as you told us. The guy bought an old
trunk from the turn of the century, the turn of
(31:28):
the twenty twentieth century for seventy five dollars and paste
it on the inside of the cover of the trunk
were I don't know coase to one hundred and twenty
baseball cards from nineteen hundred around that and the glue
on the I thought that the glue on the baseball
cards would make the baseball cards worthless. I guess the
(31:49):
glue would drive up and they were able to take
the baseball cards off pretty easily, and some of them
are really valuable. So thank you for the tip. Daryl.
Speaker 10 (31:58):
Hey, you're most welcome, and that might be a positive
for somebody else that there might be another trunk out
there well, for or.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Another A group of baseball cars was on Facebook marketplace
what's your what's your take on what we're talking.
Speaker 10 (32:14):
About tonight, Daryl, uh, I was calling in reference to
the email, and obviously the guy he's a negative nelly, right,
I would say, no, So, yeah, I'm surprised you didn't
give him the plank. You should do the paper swatters
for the emailing.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Well, I guess so, but that he's no one else
is going to hear it. But yeah, I wanted to
talk to the gentleman because it was where were It
was a very well written email. I understand that, and
I just wanted to say, what good does it do
you to send me an email? You know, if you're
sending me an email to ask a question, I'll try
to answer it, okay, But what good is it doing
(32:50):
to send you send me an email complaining about what
people said. We're a talk show. I don't read emails,
I don't read text messages. We do. We're a talk show.
Any way.
Speaker 10 (33:01):
Well, what it does is it actually examples of what
a lot of your callers say about how fair and
balanced you are.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Appreciate it, and.
Speaker 10 (33:09):
That's why they that's why they listen, Daryl.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I appreciate that. That's the that's that's the highest compliment
someone can give me. Thank you, my friend. We will
talk soon. Okay, thank you.
Speaker 10 (33:19):
Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna go look for trunks and
baseball cards.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Uh look, look for that. And also you can look
for those uh O'Ryan IDEs. They they they there's some
shooting stars out there tonight, so give a look. Okay,
southeast to southwest horizon.
Speaker 10 (33:34):
All right, you bet you buddy.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Thank You'll talk to you soon. Let me go to
II Leen in wal Damn I Lean you were next
on nightside. Thanks for calling in. Hi Eileen? How are you?
Speaker 7 (33:44):
Hi?
Speaker 11 (33:44):
Dan?
Speaker 12 (33:44):
How are you deceive me? I have to reiterate what
that gentleman just said. And that's what makes your program
so interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Well, thank you. That's very kind to both you and
Darryl of saying that.
Speaker 12 (33:57):
Well, it is because I don't always agree with you.
You probably know that.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Sure, but I can.
Speaker 12 (34:02):
But if I don't listen to the other size opinion,
I might I just might learn something brilliant.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Absolute you know, so so clean, so clear, so brilliant.
Speaker 12 (34:13):
Why not listen to me because and occasionally I've changed
my mind?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I do too.
Speaker 12 (34:20):
Are the ones who I could disagree with?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I know sometimes I'm embarrassed by the people I agree with.
Speaker 12 (34:27):
But no, but I mean, you might just listen. You
just might learn that little something. You might change your opinion.
You might not, but you're not going to learn anything
if you don't listen to anybody else.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Well, what I do is I do try. I probably
answer more emails of emails that are negative. Then the
people will send me complimentary emails and I'll respond. I
try to thank you very much, keep listening, or something
like that. But when I try to write an email
in which I was hoping that this gentlemen would give
(35:01):
me a call, and I would say, look, we need
your voice, you whether you agree with me or disagree
with me. But but it's just didn't. Didn't it didn't.
He wasn't interested. So I gotta let it go. Hey, Aileen,
I gotta let you go.
Speaker 12 (35:14):
He couldn't respond to your good will, I guess not.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
I thank you so much for your call.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
I really do.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Thanks Eileen. We'll talk too, And I got three more here,
going to try to get them all in. Mike and
f all Mike next on nisaka.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
Right ahead, good evening, damn, how are you today?
Speaker 10 (35:30):
Quick?
Speaker 7 (35:31):
I thank you speaking about I mean baseball cards. How
many did we do I'm in my almost in my sixties.
How many did we sling across the room at one another?
And damn it them in? Oh my, thousands of dollars
in cards?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yes, if we had just been swanding any take take
them and put them in in case them if you
had like a Mickey Bantle or a Ted Williams card.
Speaker 7 (35:54):
And it was if we could only go back in time, right, Well,
well we didn't know back then. And uh the other
thing was you remember service merchandise? Sure, yep, great store. Right,
they would have had a tough time robbing that place.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Well, that is true.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
One of everything everywhere and you had to pay for it.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah. And also right, okay, I didn't go into that
store a little bit, but they were. There were some
big ticket items and they were heavy items. So that's
not what these folks are looking for. Hey, Mike, have
you called before or no? Ever?
Speaker 7 (36:25):
No, we had a whole bunch.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Of first time callers tonight. This has been an extraordinary night.
Thank you, Mike. I really appreciate it. Come on back soon.
I think you're you're similar to me, probably in age
and also interest. Thank you.
Speaker 7 (36:38):
My friend, and I love the way you get people
to engage in conversation. That's that's it's a great thing.
It's great talent.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Well, I want you to come back soon and we'll
do it again. Thanks Mike, talk to you so. Have
a great night. All right, I got two. I'm gonna
get a both in Tom and Dorchester. Tom, go right ahead.
Speaker 11 (36:53):
All right, Dan, I'm kind of dischested with Donald Trump.
Oil companies are not going to make good profits that
they should make with these lower questions. He's just trying
to make the defense industry absolutely with all these peace
all his peace breaking out all over the world, and
he is trying to get us the highest social security rate.
(37:14):
I am disgusted.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
I am disgusted.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Thank you, Dan, Tom. She's best best call in a
wild Tom. I love, I love, I know irony, and
I know sarcasm, and you did a great job tonight. Tom.
Thank you so much. Come on back soon. Thanks buddy,
appreciate that. Thanks. By last of the night. James and Portsmouth.
I'm assuming it's Sportsman's New Hampshire James, Yes, Sir, could
(37:38):
be Portsmouth, Rhode Island, but we'll call it New Hampshire.
Go right ahead, James. You you got the final word
of the night.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Go right ahead, all right, I'll be quick about the email. Yeah,
I'm gonna give you credit. You have patience, and you
proved it last week when you had that lovely discussion
with the lady named Aida. Yes, her mind was completely
fixed over the Israeli Palestinian situation.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Well, you know, James, she sent me a really long
email and she explained her set of circumstances to me.
I'm not going to read that because she disclosed some
private issues. She's forty year old woman, and she obviously
has had a different set of experiences maybe than you
and I. And I sent her an email today. I
actually sent it to her last night, and I hope
(38:25):
to hear back from her. I basically, she's dealing with
a tough circumstance which will remain between us, none of
us would would welcome. And I complimented her and I said,
thank you for trying to express yourself. I said, I
think we ended up talking past each other. I hope
she will call again and we'll have even a better conversation.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Yeah. Well, if you keep this up, you're almost becoming
a conservative.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Congratulations, I can think of myself as a conservative, James,
I think you know that. I mean, I get more critical,
I get criticism from both sides. But I think tomorrow
night we're going to talk about gas prices and President
Trump needs to be commended. Gas prices and now down
(39:11):
at a four year long we'll talk about that tomorrow night.
I intended to talk about it tonight, but we just
we were too good on trying to get these district
attorneys to change some of their attitudes towards towards retail theft. James,
I appreciate it. Have you called before? Have you called before?
Keep calling? Flying to Abada, Okay, keep calling, keep calling. Okay,
(39:34):
whether you agree with me or disagree with me. I
need you both ways, whether you agree or disagree.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
Okay, all right, Sure you have a good evening, you.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Too, James, appreciate it. Great night tonight, looking forward to
my postgame. I will be on night. Start with Dan
Ray in about two minutes. Give me about two minutes
to catch my breath, Rob Brooks, great job, busy night.
I want to thank everybody who called, new callers or
regular callers. Thank you so much. We're back tomorrow, I
promise all dogs all cats, all pets go to heaven.
(40:03):
That's why Pal Charlie Rays, who passed fifteen years ago
in February, that's all your pets are who had passed.
They loved you and you loved them. We'll see again
tomorrow night, everybody. I'll see on Facebook night side with
Dan Ray in a couple of minutes. Be there of
B Square. Thank you so much for a great Tuesday. Everyone,
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