September 8, 2025 • 38 mins
The average ticket prices for NFL tickets have decreased slightly since last year, but they’re still pricey. Average ticket prices dropped from $289 to $272 this year. How expensive is too expensive for a ticket to a professional sporting event? We talked about some of the numbers of the most expensive tickets like the Eagles (Super Bowl Champs) selling tickets for $475 per game, and how that compares to current Patriots tickets.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ Costs Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I thank you very much Dan, as we move into
the ten o'clock hour here on Nightside. Read an article
in the New York Times this morning that caught my eye.
It's something that I should have known, but until you
see it in print, it doesn't really hit you in
the eye. In the National Football League, the average ticket
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prices actually declined slightly. The average declined slightly, all right. However, However,
the average price league wide for a ticket to an
NFL game, We're not talking about luxury boxes. We're talking
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about the average ticket price, which would be, for the
most part, a grandstand seat. Okay, almost tempted to say,
let's take but I suspect someone will have read the article.
Two hundred and seventy nine dollars. Okay, two hundred and
seventy nine dollars. Now, let's assume you are a normal family.
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There's a husband and a wife and a couple of kids,
and you want to go to an NFL game. Well,
it's going to cost you for four tickets, average price
more than a thousand dollars for those four tickets. We're
not talking about, you know, front row at on Broadway
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at Hamilton. Okay, god only knows what that costs. But
you're talking about average prices now. They rank in this
New York Times article, the average ticket price is highest.
Does anyone want to take a guess at that? I'll
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maybe leave that one open. I will tell you that
the New England Patriots tickets are kind of in the
middle if you were if you will, the eight, nine, ten, eleven,
They are the twelfth most expensive ticket. So the Patriots
tickets are two hundred and sixty dollars on average, So
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a family of four would have to spend more than
one thousand dollars. One thousand and forty dollars just you
get in the park. Now, if you've got to pay
for parking, you're going to add some money onto that.
If you're going to at some point, if you're an adult,
you want an adult beverage, perhaps maybe a hot dog, whatever.
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If you have your children with you and they're under
the age of you know, whatever the drinking age might
be in the particular community where you live, you just
want to buy a pepsi or a hot dog. It's
more than I ever imagined. Now I'm going to tell
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you since none of you want to guess the most
expensive team on a on an average ticket price, and
as they say, I'm talking about you know, family of four. Okay,
in Philadelphia Eagles, now the are the super Bowl champs.
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I get that the average ticket price is four hundred
and seventy five dollars. That would mean that it would
be pretty close, pretty close to two thousand dollars for
a family of four, and certainly if they were going
to have any refreshments there, it's going to cost them
two thousand dollars average price. The Detroit Lions are four
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fifty four, the Packers for eighteen, the Raiders four thirty
for eleven, the Bears four h five, Kids City Chiefs
three eighty nine, the Cowboys only three thirty three. I
mean it begins to sound inexpensive. Actually not, but that's okay.
How would you like to live in Buffalo? You know,
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Buffalo is a is a is as blue collar city
as you can imagine, as is Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh three hundred
and seventeen dollars Buffalo to see the Buffalo Bills to
eighty four? How many times have the Buffalo Bills broken
the hearts of their fans. There are some interesting ones.
The Jets Jets Jets two hundred and forty nine dollars,
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so it's actually more expensive to go to Jillett Stadium
in Foxboro than it is to see the Jets. Outside
of New York City. The Giants are pretty close to
the Jets. One is two forty nine, one is two
thirty seven. In terms of the less expensive teams that
you can go see, the least expensive is the Cleveland Browns,
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average price only one hundred and fifty eight dollars. Tennessee
Titans won sixty seven and the Jacksonville Jaguars won seventy seven.
My question is to all of you, is when's the
last time you went to an NFL game that you
paid the tickets for. I'm not talking about that your
cousin Harry had a couple of extra tickets and he
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college and said would you like to go? I'm talking
about when was the last time you actually bought a ticket?
And these, by the way, are the face values of
the ticket. This is not through scalpers or anything. This
is what the average ticket prices are for these teams.
I just wonder at what point do these professional sport
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teams kill the golden goose at what point? Now again,
I guess people have more disposable income. We are always
hearing these stories about how the Americans are living paycheck
to paycheck. If they miss one paycheck, they don't have
money for food. We've heard all of those stories, all
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of those stories. Americans don't have any money in the bank.
How can you have money in the bank if you
go into NFL games and paying for tickets. I'm not
talking about it. If you're gonna get comp tickets. If
you have you know a friend who plays in the league,
and you get a couple of tickets, good for you.
But the average ticket prices for NFL. Now I realize
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people say, well, the NFL only has eighteen games. I
think that's the current number. Correct me if I'm wrong,
or maybe it maybe it's it is eighteen. I'm pretty
sure if I'm If I'm mistaken, feel free to call
six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven, nine,
three one ten thirty. When was the last time you
went to a an NFL game. I'm assuming most of
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you would be in the our audience. We'd be talking
about you, leet and when you left did you feel.
And I'm not even talking about the season ticket holders.
I mean that's an arm and a leg because not
only do you have to pay for the eighteen games,
but you also have to pay for the preseason games,
which I mean have no value at all. Is professional
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sports out of control? Look, players are making more money today.
The valuation of the teams are greater than they've ever been.
There were some of these teams worth billions of dollars,
same way with hockey and baseball. I'm not picking on football.
I'm just picking on football because this was the first
weekend of the NFL. So when you want to get
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go to a football game, what is your choice? Do
you dig deep and go to a Patriots game that
you let or do you find some local college game
which it could be just as entertaining, or do you
go to high school games? Seems like I think a
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lot more people, if they want to save a few dollars,
spend your time in a high school game, or for
that matter, of college game, even if it's a big
time college game, as opposed to spending your heart earned
money watching the NFL. Look, you can get all the
NFL games you want every Thursday, night, every Monday night,
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every Sunday afternoon, Sunday evening. You got plenty of opportunities.
If you are a diet in the wold NFL fan
and you feel that paying whatever you're paying makes it
well worth the experience, and you love the tailgate before
the game and the tailgate after the game, and you
love the whole hoopla of the NFL. Love to hear
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from you, and I'd love to know how you work
the deal. Maybe some of you own season tickets in
conjunction with others going to open up the phone lines.
I saw the article in the Times today, and again
we can talk a little politics later on. I do
intend to do some of that. But I just am
am fascinated by the fact that people are often, you know,
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concerned about the price of gasoline as I am. You know,
I noticed the price of gasoline's gone up the last
couple of weeks inexplicably. I do believe that the price
of gasoline, you know, at the wholesale market, is still
well below seventy dollars a barrel, But just like to
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hear from me. Six one seven, two thirty, six one seven, nine,
three ten thirty. I watched my football on TV. To
be really honest with you, I don't like the aggravation
of getting to and from Gillette Stadium, and in terms
of purchasing tickets at that rate, I have better ways
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to spend my money. But I'm the exception. I assume
they have sixty five seventy thousand at Jillette Stadium for
eight home Well, now it's nine home games a year.
Six one, seven, two, five, four to ten thirty. This
is not an attack on football at all, not even
attack on pro football. It is just at what point
does it stop? Have you checked out? Look? I can
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remember going to Patriots games as a kid at Fenway Park,
Harverde Stadium, Alumni Stadium at PC Nickerson Field at Boston University.
I've been to Foxboro Stadium. I've been to Sullivan Stadium.
I've been to Gillette Stadium. Okay, the stadiums are bigger
and beautiful, more beautiful. There's more attractions and big screens
and all of that. I get all of that. I
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get all of that. But there comes a point in
time where you have to say, hey, you know, I
can spend my money on better things. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six, one, seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
If you think I'm absolutely wrong and you went to
the Patriots game yesterday and you enjoyed it, I'd love
to hear from you. I don't think too many Patriot
fans enjoyed yesterday's game. We'll be back on night Side.
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Feel free to join this conversation. We're trying to pick
topics here that different people will have an interest in.
I can do the same topics every night. That's not
my style. I hope you understand that, and I hope
that you're willing to participate even if it isn't the
single most important topic in the world to you, because
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I cannot approgram my show looking for the single most
important topic that might be of interest to you or
to someone else. Back on Nightside, give us the l
right back after.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
This Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
By the way, I want to correct myself, there's eighteen
weeks in the regular season, but every team has a buye,
so it's there are seventeen games the Patriots. The best
they'll be able to do will be sixteen in one.
Let's go to the phone, let me go to Mike.
Let's call it in Tennessee, Mike, whereabouts in Tennessee? You're
calling in.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
From Nashville, Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Dan, Well, welcome, welcome Tonight's honey. You just to stop
by tonight or have you been here before?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Many many years with you? Thank you for everything?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Well, thank you, sir, and I appreciate your calling in tonight.
How did your Titans do yesterday? I have not even
looked at the sports page today. Who do they open
up with?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
We opened up at Denver with a loss, okay, and
I think that will be a pattern that we'll see
throughout the season.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah. Well, we have your old coach up here now,
as I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
You know, Yes, we do, you know. And he's a
good man. I think it was time for him to
leave here, but I think he'll be good for you guys.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, I think so. It's been. It's been funny at
some of the Patriots practices. He does get into it
with some of the other linemen. I mean he jumps
in there and he puts hands on, you know, as
a defensive player some of the offensive linemen. He's so
he teach, he leads by example literally. Okay, he still.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Getting and so to your point, I'll use the tight.
The two are two major league teams here, the Nashville
Predators and hockey and the Tights. Titans came about twenty
five years ago, moved from Houston. As you know, the bottle.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Line was the Houston Oilers, remember them.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Well, yes, sir so. Tickets to seat licenses on about
the forty yard line lower level were forty five hundred
dollars for you know, a seat license and the seats.
The tickets were about eighty dollars a game. So if
you have two, you know, nine regular season games or
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eight and then you back then and then two preseasons,
it was eleven hundred dollars a year after you paid
the seat license of forty five hundred dollars. And you
paid that one time, and I think that was a
pretty good value. But now we have a new stadium
coming and so people are moving their season tickets from
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this stadium where you paid forty five hundred dollars for
a forty yard line seat. It's now twenty seven thousand,
five hundred dollars. Wow for a seat on the twenty
yard line lower level.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Wow. Twenty Now they twenty seven thousand dollars. Is the
license to the seat, and then you have to pay
on top of that.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Every year, every year for the tickets. Yes, sir man, Now,
now they credited us with the forty five hundred dollars,
but you got a worse seat, now, the worst seats.
The technicality in the sense you're off the forty now
you're on the twenty. Sure, but the seats are bigger,
and there's more accommodations, more bathrooms, more. It's less seat
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less they're saying less seat, it's more room, a better experience, right,
But there is a lot of people here. You know,
our company is doing well and I personally own the seats.
Now the company owns the seats, but there are a
lot of people being pushback on how much it jumped.
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And there's other prices you can get, but that's lower
level twenty yard line, not in the first like fifteen
or twenty rows. So it's a good seat, but it's
not like it's a crazy what you call the rich
people's seats or something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
True, and you're out of the elements there. So if
you get a monsoon afternoon, it's not like you're up
in a box somewhere where you're undercovered no matter what
the situation is, right.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Right, well, luckily luckily now of course, yes, you've got it.
We're going to be in you know, have the ability
to be indoors. But our predators, on the other hand,
play what about forty home games?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah? Yeah, their schedule is about an eighty two game
schedule in the NHL.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yep, right, So the tickets used to be sixty dollars
for our seats that are good seats, and now they're
about one hundred and twenty. So you go one twenty
times forty at five thousand, and you know, if you
own two seats, that's ten thousand hockey. You know, I
mean a season ticket for a fan. It's a lot
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of money.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Are you able let me ask us, are you able
to purchase? You know, some people what they do is
they don't want to go to forty one games. You know,
they have family commitments, and they have vacations, and they
have work trips. Can you purchase you know, a ticket
in your name and then you know, basically you know,
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give either give the tickets away or sell the tickets
to your colleague. So you might end up going to
ten or twelve games a year.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
But now they're very good, but they have packages to
do that. But yes you can. You can transfer the
tickets two friends. And I've never done it, but you
could put it on a secondary ticketing site to sell
your tickets on stub Hub or something like that. Now
you will laugh that in the prime, when they were
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in our division, the Blackhawks sent so many fans to Nashville.
They restricted delivery of the tickets to the Blackhawks games
to twenty four hours before the game. They wouldn't let
you do anything with those tickets to stop some of
those fans from coming. I think that's one of the
most blasslamost things that's happening in the home field advantage
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is the amount of we have a talent that people
like to come to. Bet you'll go, right, and we're
not a winning team. So you go to Steelers here
you go. If you watch that Steelers Jets game yesterday,
half the crowd in New York of course Steelers fans.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, they talk about the teams. You know, their fans travel. Well, yeah,
that's that's a familiar.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
And then you know, like, well green Bay comes here,
the Steelers come here, the Ravens come here. We you know,
I mean Nashville's is still an affordably and fun town
to come and and so we're you know, but that
changed the atmosphere since day one to today. It's just
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and you might not see it in New England because
you guys have a history of winning. But it's rough
when you're half the crowd is from the other team.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I hear you. By the way, you are the second
most reasonably priced average ticket price. You're one hundred and
sixty seven dollars an average ticket price. Only the Browns
at one eight are less expensive. Uh, And I'll tell
you got the Patriots coming there on Sunday, October nineteenth,
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week seven at the Tennessee Titans. So I'm I'm gonna win.
I'm gonna look for you in the crowd, Mike, and
see if we can see at the game.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Okay, all right, Well, if you need, might take us.
I'll give them to you anytime. You gotta thank Carol.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Okay, my great, great call. This is your first time call.
And I know you said you listened a long time.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I listened forever, and this is the first time I've
ever called.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Well, we got to give you a mouto applause. Mike
thank you so much. Little did I expect my first
call would be a season ticket older from the Tennessee
Titans tonight. Thanks so much, Mike, I really appreciate it.
Have a great one, Good luck. I'll be rooting for you,
all right. All right, Patriots fans, come on, let's go
six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven,
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nine three one ten thirty. Obviously it's expensive. It can
be very expensive in any NFL city. The question is,
are they gonna kill the ghost, the goose that lays
the golden egg, which is the sports fan. At what
point does the does the average fan say I can
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no longer afford the average price tickets? Feel free to
join this conversation if you've been to if you were
there at the Patriots game yesterday. By the way, in
New England, I have a friend of mine who is
on the hook for season tickets, like with a seat
license through the year twenty forty two. He was joking
with me the other day he still has seventeen. He
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hopes he lives to for another seventeen years. Uh, And
obviously nothing's guaranteed here. That in of itself is interesting.
If you're someone who has long term tickets. How do
they lock you in? What happens if you die? Can
they come after your estate? I don't know. Six one, seven, two, five,
four to ten thirty six one seven, nine, three one
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ten thirty special thanks to Mike from Tennessee. Longtime listener,
first time caller, Come on right back on night Side.
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Speaker 2 (21:07):
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the National Football League now expects people to pay for
the right or the privilege, whatever you want to talk
about it to go to an NFL game, Mike from
Tennessee explained to us that the problem that maybe we're
facing here in New England are also being faced by
with other franchises around the country. It's just a lot
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of money, is what I'm what I'm trying to say,
And again they look, I understand, if you're a die
hard Patriot fan, you're going to go to Patriots games
no matter what the cost. And the fact that the
average ticket price, the average price at youll Let's stay
tium is two hundred and sixty dollars, which means again,
if you're a single guy or a single lady going
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to a patri game, that's a lot of money. But
think about it, if you're a family and you have
a couple of kids, who would like to go to
Patriot games or to a Patriot game, and you're going
to go husband, wife, and a couple of kids. Keep
it simple. That's more than a thousand dollars before you
to get in the park, and then you're going to
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be able to you'll end up spending another couple one
hundred dollars for sure on a program, on some refreshments,
maybe a souvenir. I mean that becomes an expensive proposition.
I don't care how much money you make now, if
you're a gazillionaire or a millionaire, it doesn't matter. But
you're probably sitting up in the big boxes up top
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of the stadium. But to be sitting in average seats
at Chillette Stadium for two sixty, I don't know, doesn't
quite appeal to me. I'm a sports guy, and I'd
love to hear from some of you who have been
to Patriots games recently. You can everything's expensive. I get it.
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You see the salaries the players are getting, which is understandable.
They have a talent and they have an earning capacity
of maybe four or five, maybe ten years if they're lucky.
Occasionally someone lasts fifteen or twenty. But those are the exceptions.
Let me go to Warren down in Fall River, Warren.
When was the last Patriot game that you attended.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I've never been to a Patriots game.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I'll be watching on TV. But the thing which I
wanted to tell you is like there was a study
that you know that they did, like if you want
to watch it every NFL game this year, yep, it
will you know with all these different channels and all
this stuff like that, it's it is going to cost
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you over a thousand bucks just to watch it from
your home.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Well, first of all, how can I know that? There's
this concept called red zone?
Speaker 5 (25:00):
They cut back and forth, so you're watching a game
here or whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Maybe there's more than one, but but I don't consider
that watching a game.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
No. No, But like I'm just saying, like if you
want to watch your favorite team and just that, and
they broke it down to you know, all these channels.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Okay, so what you you and you're going to.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Record off of these off of these channels, like you
can do uh, you can do a recording from the channels.
You can actually have a machine actually record them.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Well, the deal all the.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Games cost over thousands.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Right, But what I'm saying is if you live in Boston,
or you live in New England and you're a fan
of the Seattle Seahawks or you're a fan of the
Dallas Cowboys, you might get three or four of those
games on network TV. But if you really got to
see each and every game, each and every WePlay, I
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guess you say that it.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Is extensive and the salaries are outrageous. I mean, I
mean the average you know, the average worker. Well, you
know what, what does the average worker make? What eighty
two thousand or whatever in the in this region?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Oh, I don't know. I don't know what it would
be that high, to be really honest.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
With you, but I really don't know. I mean it
might be it might be sixty thousands.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Yeah, I'm saying if somebody's making Now again, you you
get a little confused because you now have many many
more families with you know, a couple, mom and dad
are both working full time.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
But is that the best way to spend your money?
But again, as you said, I'm like you, I prefer
to watch them on TV. I was at a Patriots
game last year and we had decent seats. They were
agressive seats.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Was the pass socks Inkentucket, Rhode Island.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I used to go.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Over and what what ten you know, seven to ten
bucks a see, just sitting down and score a game
and enjoy a nice day, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And well, mother, minor league, any minor league sport, whether
it's the Providence Bruins or or or whatever. Uh, it's
it's you know, it's more reasonable and everything. Parking is easier,
it's less of a hassle. But it's there is no
minor league football unless you consider college football minor league football,
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and which.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Is basically is right now because you're starting to pay
the players and don't even get me started on don't
even get me started.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Going to a concert, you.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Know, it's seeing your favorite artist in concert.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, well, the thing about the artist, the thing about
the artist. If all of a sudden, Taylor Swift does
a concert in Boston, it's probably one and done. You're
not going to go to all four concerts at you
Let Stadium.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
But there are people that have that I know that
have spent five thousand dollars on the concert.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Sure, a concert, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
I mean, yeah, front row seats, you know, yeah, it's
a whole you.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Know, I guess if that's what your life is about,
good luck. I would just say this, Warren, I'm like you.
I would rather watch a football game, any football game,
particularly NFL football game on television because you see the replays.
If if you want to have a beer, all you
got to do is to go to your own refrigerator,
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open up the refrigerator and the beer.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
You know, make whatever, make what you want. And I
totally get it, and it's it. I'm just I'm just
thinking that the price of going going to these games
and the costs, you know, you know what what these
players are making in the artists are making, you know,
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is it a little bit outrageous? I mean, the music
one I could I can explain to you, but it
would it's a very lengthy way too.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
We will save that for our next conversation. I'm up
my break, so I'm gonna let you run. But Warren,
thank you, thank you so much for calling. I do
appreciate your perspective. Good night, good night, all right, take
a very quick break here. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten
thirty Also eight eight eight nine to nine ten thirty.
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I would love to know if you've been to a
Patriots game lately, and particularly if anyone went yesterday. If
you were at the Patriots game yesterday, you had some
lousy weather to deal with, which is okay, that's part
of the atmosphere. I get it, okay, But if you
paid that sort of money for that performance yesterday, particularly
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if you were a diehard Patriots fan, I'd love to
hear from you. Six one, seven, four ten thirty six
one seven, nine three one ten thirty, triple eight nine
to nine, ten thirty. You got the numbers, I got
the lines. We will change topics, no doubt, maybe before,
but we'll definitely change you on eleven again. I do
these topics in an effort to incorporate more people into
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the show. Okay. I don't want to do the same
similar topics every night, but sometimes it's frustrating when you
try to come up with a topic that maybe people
can relate to and they don't seem interested. Coming back
on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on wb Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Okay, my sense is that the cost them an NFL
game or set of NFL game tickets not particularly important
to you. So we're going to change topics, and we
will in the eleven o'clock hour open up a line
of conversation. You know, last week the Trump administration blew
up a boat that they said was carrying drugs from
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Venezuela to the United States. That happened on Wednesday. The
administration said that there were eleven people aboard this vessel.
The New York Times article from which I am reading
Trump administration says boat strike is start a campaign against
venezuel and cartels. It says the US Navy has long
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intercepted in boarded ships suspected of smuggling drugs and international waters,
typically when a coastguard officer temporarily in charge to invoke
law enforcement. With a coastguard officer to invoke law enforcement authority, well,
I'm not sure with the coastguard authority stretches in international waters.
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According to The Times, last Tuesday's direct attack in the
Caribbean was a marked departure from that decade's long approach.
The administration said there were eleven people on board. They
said they were members of the trendy Darragha cartel. There,
of course, in this country will always be the questions. Now.
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Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State said that the drug
laden vote on Wednesday was bound for the US. According
to Rubio, he had said that on Tuesday it was
going to Trinidad. While there was a conflict between Rubio
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and Trump, again, they should have the get their act together. However,
I don't have a big problem with this, and I'd
love to know what you think, Okay. I want to
assume that we have people on the ground in some
of these countries who can tell us what is going on,
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meaning what is being loaded onto a boat, where the
boat is headed, and if we come into good, reliable
evidence that there are narcotics bound for the US. Now again,
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according to the Times article, on Tuesday, mister Trump said
on social media the eleven members of trendi Agua gang
he called them narco terrorists were killed in the strike.
You've seen the video, I assume. The President's post was
accompanied by a video of what appeared to be a
speedboat cutting through the water with a number of people
on board. An explosion then appears to blow it up.
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Congress has not authorized any armed conflict against Trentagua or Venezuela,
and several legal experts this is the New York Times
said they were unaware of any They were unaware of
any precedent for claiming that a country could invoke self
defense as a basis to target drug trafficking suspect with
lethal force. Well, let's have Congress vote on that. And
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it seems to me. It seems to me that if
I remember Congress, I would certainly give our military under
the Monroe doctrine of two hundred and almost forty years ago,
and I would give the military absolute authority to do
what they would have to do to prevent this sort
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of poison from coming and killing young Americans or middle
aged Americans or older Americans. We know that in two
thousand and one, Congress authorized the use of military force,
according to The Times, against al Qaeda and his Taliban
host in Afghanistan, and that under the administration of both parties,
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that stretched the law to justify warfare against other groups
around the world. The bottom line is, why can we
not defend ourselves in whatever way we should deem appropriate. Now,
a gentleman by the name of Brian Finukin, a former
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State Department lawyer and specialist in the law of war,
said trend to Agua is not a military organization in
the same way that ISIS or al Qaeda or al
Shabbabi is okay. The previous designation of trendi Agua as
a foreign terrorist organization does not self provide the authority
for using military force. I gotta tell you if if
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I'm the president of the United States, and I want
to know what you would do if you knew that
there was a Now again, if they're just blowing boats
out of the water because they're having fun and blowing,
that's not appropriate. We know that. But if you have
information that this boat is ferrying drugs coming to the
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United States, why will we not use on military force? One?
According to The Times, one senior US official set of
Special Operations aircraft, either an attack helicopter or a Reaper drone,
carried out the attack after US surveillance aircraft and other sensors,
including electronic eve dropping platforms, monitored cartel maritime traffic for
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weeks before the strike. Tape. We have tapes of them speaking.
Mister Trump told reporters on Wednesday. There were massive amounts
of drugs coming into our country to kill a lot
of people, and everybody fully understands that. So I want
to hear from you are you comfortable with our Defense Department,
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soon to be called the Department of War, using US
military against drug traffickers who would be bringing drugs that
will kill Americans into the country. I am perfectly comfortable
with that. I want to make sure that we have
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You can't bring this to a grand jury, okay, But
if they're bringing this stuff in, however they're bringing it in,
has to be stopped. And if they're coming in over
the open waters of the Caribbean or wherever, and we
have an opportunity to intercept it and sink it. I
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don't have a problem with it. I really don't. I
don't know how you feel about it. I think that
we have seen, in my opinion, too many Americans die
of drug overdose. I know that some of the drugs
and manufacturing in this country. I know some of them
come over the southern border. But if the terrorists are
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dumb enough, or they look at it as a situation
that we're not going to respond to, why wouldn't they
bring the boats in the drugs in my boat? Look,
I know, and most of my audience knows because we've
interviewed people here, that over the years, marijuana was brought
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in off the coast of Maine. My small little boats
going out to bigger boats to bring marijuana in. It's
the difference between people are bringing marijuana in. Marijuana it
doesn't kill people, fentinyl does, and cocaine mixed with fentanyl.
Drugs cut with fentinyl will kill people. That's the topic
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I want to talk about at eleven o'clock six, one
seven to after the eleven o'clock news six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
I think it's a serious topic I hope to hear
from you. Feel free to join the conversation right after
the eleven o'clock news here on night Side on a
Monday night. Coming back right after the news
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ Costs Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I thank you very much Dan, as we move into
the ten o'clock hour here on Nightside. Read an article
in the New York Times this morning that caught my eye.
It's something that I should have known, but until you
see it in print, it doesn't really hit you in
the eye. In the National Football League, the average ticket
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prices actually declined slightly. The average declined slightly, all right. However, However,
the average price league wide for a ticket to an
NFL game, We're not talking about luxury boxes. We're talking
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about the average ticket price, which would be, for the
most part, a grandstand seat. Okay, almost tempted to say,
let's take but I suspect someone will have read the article.
Two hundred and seventy nine dollars. Okay, two hundred and
seventy nine dollars. Now, let's assume you are a normal family.
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There's a husband and a wife and a couple of kids,
and you want to go to an NFL game. Well,
it's going to cost you for four tickets, average price
more than a thousand dollars for those four tickets. We're
not talking about, you know, front row at on Broadway
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at Hamilton. Okay, god only knows what that costs. But
you're talking about average prices now. They rank in this
New York Times article, the average ticket price is highest.
Does anyone want to take a guess at that? I'll
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maybe leave that one open. I will tell you that
the New England Patriots tickets are kind of in the
middle if you were if you will, the eight, nine, ten, eleven,
They are the twelfth most expensive ticket. So the Patriots
tickets are two hundred and sixty dollars on average, So
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a family of four would have to spend more than
one thousand dollars. One thousand and forty dollars just you
get in the park. Now, if you've got to pay
for parking, you're going to add some money onto that.
If you're going to at some point, if you're an adult,
you want an adult beverage, perhaps maybe a hot dog, whatever.
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If you have your children with you and they're under
the age of you know, whatever the drinking age might
be in the particular community where you live, you just
want to buy a pepsi or a hot dog. It's
more than I ever imagined. Now I'm going to tell
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you since none of you want to guess the most
expensive team on a on an average ticket price, and
as they say, I'm talking about you know, family of four. Okay,
in Philadelphia Eagles, now the are the super Bowl champs.
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I get that the average ticket price is four hundred
and seventy five dollars. That would mean that it would
be pretty close, pretty close to two thousand dollars for
a family of four, and certainly if they were going
to have any refreshments there, it's going to cost them
two thousand dollars average price. The Detroit Lions are four
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fifty four, the Packers for eighteen, the Raiders four thirty
for eleven, the Bears four h five, Kids City Chiefs
three eighty nine, the Cowboys only three thirty three. I
mean it begins to sound inexpensive. Actually not, but that's okay.
How would you like to live in Buffalo? You know,
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Buffalo is a is a is as blue collar city
as you can imagine, as is Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh three hundred
and seventeen dollars Buffalo to see the Buffalo Bills to
eighty four? How many times have the Buffalo Bills broken
the hearts of their fans. There are some interesting ones.
The Jets Jets Jets two hundred and forty nine dollars,
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so it's actually more expensive to go to Jillett Stadium
in Foxboro than it is to see the Jets. Outside
of New York City. The Giants are pretty close to
the Jets. One is two forty nine, one is two
thirty seven. In terms of the less expensive teams that
you can go see, the least expensive is the Cleveland Browns,
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average price only one hundred and fifty eight dollars. Tennessee
Titans won sixty seven and the Jacksonville Jaguars won seventy seven.
My question is to all of you, is when's the
last time you went to an NFL game that you
paid the tickets for. I'm not talking about that your
cousin Harry had a couple of extra tickets and he
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college and said would you like to go? I'm talking
about when was the last time you actually bought a ticket?
And these, by the way, are the face values of
the ticket. This is not through scalpers or anything. This
is what the average ticket prices are for these teams.
I just wonder at what point do these professional sport
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teams kill the golden goose at what point? Now again,
I guess people have more disposable income. We are always
hearing these stories about how the Americans are living paycheck
to paycheck. If they miss one paycheck, they don't have
money for food. We've heard all of those stories, all
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of those stories. Americans don't have any money in the bank.
How can you have money in the bank if you
go into NFL games and paying for tickets. I'm not
talking about it. If you're gonna get comp tickets. If
you have you know a friend who plays in the league,
and you get a couple of tickets, good for you.
But the average ticket prices for NFL. Now I realize
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people say, well, the NFL only has eighteen games. I
think that's the current number. Correct me if I'm wrong,
or maybe it maybe it's it is eighteen. I'm pretty
sure if I'm If I'm mistaken, feel free to call
six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven, nine,
three one ten thirty. When was the last time you
went to a an NFL game. I'm assuming most of
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you would be in the our audience. We'd be talking
about you, leet and when you left did you feel.
And I'm not even talking about the season ticket holders.
I mean that's an arm and a leg because not
only do you have to pay for the eighteen games,
but you also have to pay for the preseason games,
which I mean have no value at all. Is professional
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sports out of control? Look, players are making more money today.
The valuation of the teams are greater than they've ever been.
There were some of these teams worth billions of dollars,
same way with hockey and baseball. I'm not picking on football.
I'm just picking on football because this was the first
weekend of the NFL. So when you want to get
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go to a football game, what is your choice? Do
you dig deep and go to a Patriots game that
you let or do you find some local college game
which it could be just as entertaining, or do you
go to high school games? Seems like I think a
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lot more people, if they want to save a few dollars,
spend your time in a high school game, or for
that matter, of college game, even if it's a big
time college game, as opposed to spending your heart earned
money watching the NFL. Look, you can get all the
NFL games you want every Thursday, night, every Monday night,
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every Sunday afternoon, Sunday evening. You got plenty of opportunities.
If you are a diet in the wold NFL fan
and you feel that paying whatever you're paying makes it
well worth the experience, and you love the tailgate before
the game and the tailgate after the game, and you
love the whole hoopla of the NFL. Love to hear
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from you, and I'd love to know how you work
the deal. Maybe some of you own season tickets in
conjunction with others going to open up the phone lines.
I saw the article in the Times today, and again
we can talk a little politics later on. I do
intend to do some of that. But I just am
am fascinated by the fact that people are often, you know,
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concerned about the price of gasoline as I am. You know,
I noticed the price of gasoline's gone up the last
couple of weeks inexplicably. I do believe that the price
of gasoline, you know, at the wholesale market, is still
well below seventy dollars a barrel, But just like to
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hear from me. Six one seven, two thirty, six one seven, nine,
three ten thirty. I watched my football on TV. To
be really honest with you, I don't like the aggravation
of getting to and from Gillette Stadium, and in terms
of purchasing tickets at that rate, I have better ways
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to spend my money. But I'm the exception. I assume
they have sixty five seventy thousand at Jillette Stadium for
eight home Well, now it's nine home games a year.
Six one, seven, two, five, four to ten thirty. This
is not an attack on football at all, not even
attack on pro football. It is just at what point
does it stop? Have you checked out? Look? I can
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remember going to Patriots games as a kid at Fenway Park,
Harverde Stadium, Alumni Stadium at PC Nickerson Field at Boston University.
I've been to Foxboro Stadium. I've been to Sullivan Stadium.
I've been to Gillette Stadium. Okay, the stadiums are bigger
and beautiful, more beautiful. There's more attractions and big screens
and all of that. I get all of that. I
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get all of that. But there comes a point in
time where you have to say, hey, you know, I
can spend my money on better things. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six, one, seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
If you think I'm absolutely wrong and you went to
the Patriots game yesterday and you enjoyed it, I'd love
to hear from you. I don't think too many Patriot
fans enjoyed yesterday's game. We'll be back on night Side.
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Feel free to join this conversation. We're trying to pick
topics here that different people will have an interest in.
I can do the same topics every night. That's not
my style. I hope you understand that, and I hope
that you're willing to participate even if it isn't the
single most important topic in the world to you, because
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I cannot approgram my show looking for the single most
important topic that might be of interest to you or
to someone else. Back on Nightside, give us the l
right back after.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
This Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
By the way, I want to correct myself, there's eighteen
weeks in the regular season, but every team has a buye,
so it's there are seventeen games the Patriots. The best
they'll be able to do will be sixteen in one.
Let's go to the phone, let me go to Mike.
Let's call it in Tennessee, Mike, whereabouts in Tennessee? You're
calling in.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
From Nashville, Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Dan, Well, welcome, welcome Tonight's honey. You just to stop
by tonight or have you been here before?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Many many years with you? Thank you for everything?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Well, thank you, sir, and I appreciate your calling in tonight.
How did your Titans do yesterday? I have not even
looked at the sports page today. Who do they open
up with?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
We opened up at Denver with a loss, okay, and
I think that will be a pattern that we'll see
throughout the season.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah. Well, we have your old coach up here now,
as I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
You know, Yes, we do, you know. And he's a
good man. I think it was time for him to
leave here, but I think he'll be good for you guys.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, I think so. It's been. It's been funny at
some of the Patriots practices. He does get into it
with some of the other linemen. I mean he jumps
in there and he puts hands on, you know, as
a defensive player some of the offensive linemen. He's so
he teach, he leads by example literally. Okay, he still.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Getting and so to your point, I'll use the tight.
The two are two major league teams here, the Nashville
Predators and hockey and the Tights. Titans came about twenty
five years ago, moved from Houston. As you know, the bottle.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Line was the Houston Oilers, remember them.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Well, yes, sir so. Tickets to seat licenses on about
the forty yard line lower level were forty five hundred
dollars for you know, a seat license and the seats.
The tickets were about eighty dollars a game. So if
you have two, you know, nine regular season games or
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eight and then you back then and then two preseasons,
it was eleven hundred dollars a year after you paid
the seat license of forty five hundred dollars. And you
paid that one time, and I think that was a
pretty good value. But now we have a new stadium
coming and so people are moving their season tickets from
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this stadium where you paid forty five hundred dollars for
a forty yard line seat. It's now twenty seven thousand,
five hundred dollars. Wow for a seat on the twenty
yard line lower level.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Wow. Twenty Now they twenty seven thousand dollars. Is the
license to the seat, and then you have to pay
on top of that.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Every year, every year for the tickets. Yes, sir man, Now,
now they credited us with the forty five hundred dollars,
but you got a worse seat, now, the worst seats.
The technicality in the sense you're off the forty now
you're on the twenty. Sure, but the seats are bigger,
and there's more accommodations, more bathrooms, more. It's less seat
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less they're saying less seat, it's more room, a better experience, right,
But there is a lot of people here. You know,
our company is doing well and I personally own the seats.
Now the company owns the seats, but there are a
lot of people being pushback on how much it jumped.
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And there's other prices you can get, but that's lower
level twenty yard line, not in the first like fifteen
or twenty rows. So it's a good seat, but it's
not like it's a crazy what you call the rich
people's seats or something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
True, and you're out of the elements there. So if
you get a monsoon afternoon, it's not like you're up
in a box somewhere where you're undercovered no matter what
the situation is, right.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Right, well, luckily luckily now of course, yes, you've got it.
We're going to be in you know, have the ability
to be indoors. But our predators, on the other hand,
play what about forty home games?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah? Yeah, their schedule is about an eighty two game
schedule in the NHL.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yep, right, So the tickets used to be sixty dollars
for our seats that are good seats, and now they're
about one hundred and twenty. So you go one twenty
times forty at five thousand, and you know, if you
own two seats, that's ten thousand hockey. You know, I
mean a season ticket for a fan. It's a lot
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of money.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Are you able let me ask us, are you able
to purchase? You know, some people what they do is
they don't want to go to forty one games. You know,
they have family commitments, and they have vacations, and they
have work trips. Can you purchase you know, a ticket
in your name and then you know, basically you know,
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give either give the tickets away or sell the tickets
to your colleague. So you might end up going to
ten or twelve games a year.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
But now they're very good, but they have packages to
do that. But yes you can. You can transfer the
tickets two friends. And I've never done it, but you
could put it on a secondary ticketing site to sell
your tickets on stub Hub or something like that. Now
you will laugh that in the prime, when they were
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in our division, the Blackhawks sent so many fans to Nashville.
They restricted delivery of the tickets to the Blackhawks games
to twenty four hours before the game. They wouldn't let
you do anything with those tickets to stop some of
those fans from coming. I think that's one of the
most blasslamost things that's happening in the home field advantage
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is the amount of we have a talent that people
like to come to. Bet you'll go, right, and we're
not a winning team. So you go to Steelers here
you go. If you watch that Steelers Jets game yesterday,
half the crowd in New York of course Steelers fans.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, they talk about the teams. You know, their fans travel. Well, yeah,
that's that's a familiar.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
And then you know, like, well green Bay comes here,
the Steelers come here, the Ravens come here. We you know,
I mean Nashville's is still an affordably and fun town
to come and and so we're you know, but that
changed the atmosphere since day one to today. It's just
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and you might not see it in New England because
you guys have a history of winning. But it's rough
when you're half the crowd is from the other team.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I hear you. By the way, you are the second
most reasonably priced average ticket price. You're one hundred and
sixty seven dollars an average ticket price. Only the Browns
at one eight are less expensive. Uh, And I'll tell
you got the Patriots coming there on Sunday, October nineteenth,
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week seven at the Tennessee Titans. So I'm I'm gonna win.
I'm gonna look for you in the crowd, Mike, and
see if we can see at the game.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Okay, all right, Well, if you need, might take us.
I'll give them to you anytime. You gotta thank Carol.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Okay, my great, great call. This is your first time call.
And I know you said you listened a long time.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I listened forever, and this is the first time I've
ever called.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Well, we got to give you a mouto applause. Mike
thank you so much. Little did I expect my first
call would be a season ticket older from the Tennessee
Titans tonight. Thanks so much, Mike, I really appreciate it.
Have a great one, Good luck. I'll be rooting for you,
all right. All right, Patriots fans, come on, let's go
six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven,
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nine three one ten thirty. Obviously it's expensive. It can
be very expensive in any NFL city. The question is,
are they gonna kill the ghost, the goose that lays
the golden egg, which is the sports fan. At what
point does the does the average fan say I can
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no longer afford the average price tickets? Feel free to
join this conversation if you've been to if you were
there at the Patriots game yesterday. By the way, in
New England, I have a friend of mine who is
on the hook for season tickets, like with a seat
license through the year twenty forty two. He was joking
with me the other day he still has seventeen. He
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hopes he lives to for another seventeen years. Uh, And
obviously nothing's guaranteed here. That in of itself is interesting.
If you're someone who has long term tickets. How do
they lock you in? What happens if you die? Can
they come after your estate? I don't know. Six one, seven, two, five,
four to ten thirty six one seven, nine, three one
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ten thirty special thanks to Mike from Tennessee. Longtime listener,
first time caller, Come on right back on night Side.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
All right, Well, if this is a topic that doesn't
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the National Football League now expects people to pay for
the right or the privilege, whatever you want to talk
about it to go to an NFL game, Mike from
Tennessee explained to us that the problem that maybe we're
facing here in New England are also being faced by
with other franchises around the country. It's just a lot
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of money, is what I'm what I'm trying to say,
And again they look, I understand, if you're a die
hard Patriot fan, you're going to go to Patriots games
no matter what the cost. And the fact that the
average ticket price, the average price at youll Let's stay
tium is two hundred and sixty dollars, which means again,
if you're a single guy or a single lady going
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to a patri game, that's a lot of money. But
think about it, if you're a family and you have
a couple of kids, who would like to go to
Patriot games or to a Patriot game, and you're going
to go husband, wife, and a couple of kids. Keep
it simple. That's more than a thousand dollars before you
to get in the park, and then you're going to
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be able to you'll end up spending another couple one
hundred dollars for sure on a program, on some refreshments,
maybe a souvenir. I mean that becomes an expensive proposition.
I don't care how much money you make now, if
you're a gazillionaire or a millionaire, it doesn't matter. But
you're probably sitting up in the big boxes up top
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of the stadium. But to be sitting in average seats
at Chillette Stadium for two sixty, I don't know, doesn't
quite appeal to me. I'm a sports guy, and I'd
love to hear from some of you who have been
to Patriots games recently. You can everything's expensive. I get it.
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You see the salaries the players are getting, which is understandable.
They have a talent and they have an earning capacity
of maybe four or five, maybe ten years if they're lucky.
Occasionally someone lasts fifteen or twenty. But those are the exceptions.
Let me go to Warren down in Fall River, Warren.
When was the last Patriot game that you attended.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I've never been to a Patriots game.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I'll be watching on TV. But the thing which I
wanted to tell you is like there was a study
that you know that they did, like if you want
to watch it every NFL game this year, yep, it
will you know with all these different channels and all
this stuff like that, it's it is going to cost
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you over a thousand bucks just to watch it from
your home.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Well, first of all, how can I know that? There's
this concept called red zone?
Speaker 5 (25:00):
They cut back and forth, so you're watching a game
here or whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Maybe there's more than one, but but I don't consider
that watching a game.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
No. No, But like I'm just saying, like if you
want to watch your favorite team and just that, and
they broke it down to you know, all these channels.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Okay, so what you you and you're going to.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Record off of these off of these channels, like you
can do uh, you can do a recording from the channels.
You can actually have a machine actually record them.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Well, the deal all the.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Games cost over thousands.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Right, But what I'm saying is if you live in Boston,
or you live in New England and you're a fan
of the Seattle Seahawks or you're a fan of the
Dallas Cowboys, you might get three or four of those
games on network TV. But if you really got to
see each and every game, each and every WePlay, I
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guess you say that it.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Is extensive and the salaries are outrageous. I mean, I
mean the average you know, the average worker. Well, you
know what, what does the average worker make? What eighty
two thousand or whatever in the in this region?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Oh, I don't know. I don't know what it would
be that high, to be really honest.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
With you, but I really don't know. I mean it
might be it might be sixty thousands.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Yeah, I'm saying if somebody's making Now again, you you
get a little confused because you now have many many
more families with you know, a couple, mom and dad
are both working full time.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
But is that the best way to spend your money?
But again, as you said, I'm like you, I prefer
to watch them on TV. I was at a Patriots
game last year and we had decent seats. They were
agressive seats.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Was the pass socks Inkentucket, Rhode Island.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I used to go.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Over and what what ten you know, seven to ten
bucks a see, just sitting down and score a game
and enjoy a nice day, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And well, mother, minor league, any minor league sport, whether
it's the Providence Bruins or or or whatever. Uh, it's
it's you know, it's more reasonable and everything. Parking is easier,
it's less of a hassle. But it's there is no
minor league football unless you consider college football minor league football,
(27:38):
and which.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Is basically is right now because you're starting to pay
the players and don't even get me started on don't
even get me started.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Going to a concert, you.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Know, it's seeing your favorite artist in concert.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, well, the thing about the artist, the thing about
the artist. If all of a sudden, Taylor Swift does
a concert in Boston, it's probably one and done. You're
not going to go to all four concerts at you
Let Stadium.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
But there are people that have that I know that
have spent five thousand dollars on the concert.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Sure, a concert, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
I mean, yeah, front row seats, you know, yeah, it's
a whole you.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Know, I guess if that's what your life is about,
good luck. I would just say this, Warren, I'm like you.
I would rather watch a football game, any football game,
particularly NFL football game on television because you see the replays.
If if you want to have a beer, all you
got to do is to go to your own refrigerator,
(28:40):
open up the refrigerator and the beer.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
You know, make whatever, make what you want. And I
totally get it, and it's it. I'm just I'm just
thinking that the price of going going to these games
and the costs, you know, you know what what these
players are making in the artists are making, you know,
(29:05):
is it a little bit outrageous? I mean, the music
one I could I can explain to you, but it
would it's a very lengthy way too.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
We will save that for our next conversation. I'm up
my break, so I'm gonna let you run. But Warren,
thank you, thank you so much for calling. I do
appreciate your perspective. Good night, good night, all right, take
a very quick break here. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten
thirty Also eight eight eight nine to nine ten thirty.
(29:37):
I would love to know if you've been to a
Patriots game lately, and particularly if anyone went yesterday. If
you were at the Patriots game yesterday, you had some
lousy weather to deal with, which is okay, that's part
of the atmosphere. I get it, okay, But if you
paid that sort of money for that performance yesterday, particularly
(29:57):
if you were a diehard Patriots fan, I'd love to
hear from you. Six one, seven, four ten thirty six
one seven, nine three one ten thirty, triple eight nine
to nine, ten thirty. You got the numbers, I got
the lines. We will change topics, no doubt, maybe before,
but we'll definitely change you on eleven again. I do
these topics in an effort to incorporate more people into
(30:21):
the show. Okay. I don't want to do the same
similar topics every night, but sometimes it's frustrating when you
try to come up with a topic that maybe people
can relate to and they don't seem interested. Coming back
on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on wb Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Okay, my sense is that the cost them an NFL
game or set of NFL game tickets not particularly important
to you. So we're going to change topics, and we
will in the eleven o'clock hour open up a line
of conversation. You know, last week the Trump administration blew
up a boat that they said was carrying drugs from
(31:06):
Venezuela to the United States. That happened on Wednesday. The
administration said that there were eleven people aboard this vessel.
The New York Times article from which I am reading
Trump administration says boat strike is start a campaign against
venezuel and cartels. It says the US Navy has long
(31:29):
intercepted in boarded ships suspected of smuggling drugs and international waters,
typically when a coastguard officer temporarily in charge to invoke
law enforcement. With a coastguard officer to invoke law enforcement authority, well,
I'm not sure with the coastguard authority stretches in international waters.
(31:49):
According to The Times, last Tuesday's direct attack in the
Caribbean was a marked departure from that decade's long approach.
The administration said there were eleven people on board. They
said they were members of the trendy Darragha cartel. There,
of course, in this country will always be the questions. Now.
(32:14):
Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State said that the drug
laden vote on Wednesday was bound for the US. According
to Rubio, he had said that on Tuesday it was
going to Trinidad. While there was a conflict between Rubio
(32:36):
and Trump, again, they should have the get their act together. However,
I don't have a big problem with this, and I'd
love to know what you think, Okay. I want to
assume that we have people on the ground in some
of these countries who can tell us what is going on,
(32:59):
meaning what is being loaded onto a boat, where the
boat is headed, and if we come into good, reliable
evidence that there are narcotics bound for the US. Now again,
(33:19):
according to the Times article, on Tuesday, mister Trump said
on social media the eleven members of trendi Agua gang
he called them narco terrorists were killed in the strike.
You've seen the video, I assume. The President's post was
accompanied by a video of what appeared to be a
speedboat cutting through the water with a number of people
on board. An explosion then appears to blow it up.
(33:42):
Congress has not authorized any armed conflict against Trentagua or Venezuela,
and several legal experts this is the New York Times
said they were unaware of any They were unaware of
any precedent for claiming that a country could invoke self
defense as a basis to target drug trafficking suspect with
lethal force. Well, let's have Congress vote on that. And
(34:06):
it seems to me. It seems to me that if
I remember Congress, I would certainly give our military under
the Monroe doctrine of two hundred and almost forty years ago,
and I would give the military absolute authority to do
what they would have to do to prevent this sort
(34:28):
of poison from coming and killing young Americans or middle
aged Americans or older Americans. We know that in two
thousand and one, Congress authorized the use of military force,
according to The Times, against al Qaeda and his Taliban
host in Afghanistan, and that under the administration of both parties,
(34:51):
that stretched the law to justify warfare against other groups
around the world. The bottom line is, why can we
not defend ourselves in whatever way we should deem appropriate. Now,
a gentleman by the name of Brian Finukin, a former
(35:12):
State Department lawyer and specialist in the law of war,
said trend to Agua is not a military organization in
the same way that ISIS or al Qaeda or al
Shabbabi is okay. The previous designation of trendi Agua as
a foreign terrorist organization does not self provide the authority
for using military force. I gotta tell you if if
(35:39):
I'm the president of the United States, and I want
to know what you would do if you knew that
there was a Now again, if they're just blowing boats
out of the water because they're having fun and blowing,
that's not appropriate. We know that. But if you have
information that this boat is ferrying drugs coming to the
(36:00):
United States, why will we not use on military force? One?
According to The Times, one senior US official set of
Special Operations aircraft, either an attack helicopter or a Reaper drone,
carried out the attack after US surveillance aircraft and other sensors,
including electronic eve dropping platforms, monitored cartel maritime traffic for
(36:25):
weeks before the strike. Tape. We have tapes of them speaking.
Mister Trump told reporters on Wednesday. There were massive amounts
of drugs coming into our country to kill a lot
of people, and everybody fully understands that. So I want
to hear from you are you comfortable with our Defense Department,
(36:45):
soon to be called the Department of War, using US
military against drug traffickers who would be bringing drugs that
will kill Americans into the country. I am perfectly comfortable
with that. I want to make sure that we have
(37:07):
You can't bring this to a grand jury, okay, But
if they're bringing this stuff in, however they're bringing it in,
has to be stopped. And if they're coming in over
the open waters of the Caribbean or wherever, and we
have an opportunity to intercept it and sink it. I
(37:30):
don't have a problem with it. I really don't. I
don't know how you feel about it. I think that
we have seen, in my opinion, too many Americans die
of drug overdose. I know that some of the drugs
and manufacturing in this country. I know some of them
come over the southern border. But if the terrorists are
(37:54):
dumb enough, or they look at it as a situation
that we're not going to respond to, why wouldn't they
bring the boats in the drugs in my boat? Look,
I know, and most of my audience knows because we've
interviewed people here, that over the years, marijuana was brought
(38:15):
in off the coast of Maine. My small little boats
going out to bigger boats to bring marijuana in. It's
the difference between people are bringing marijuana in. Marijuana it
doesn't kill people, fentinyl does, and cocaine mixed with fentanyl.
Drugs cut with fentinyl will kill people. That's the topic
(38:37):
I want to talk about at eleven o'clock six, one
seven to after the eleven o'clock news six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
I think it's a serious topic I hope to hear
from you. Feel free to join the conversation right after
the eleven o'clock news here on night Side on a
Monday night. Coming back right after the news
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