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October 22, 2025 38 mins
We kicked off the program with four news stories and different guests on the stories we think you need to know about!

Pawtriots Pet Adoption “TailGate” that was hosted last Sunday by the Krafts at Patriots Place. It was a success with 30 dogs finding forever homes!
Guest: Dr. Dana Blumberg Kraft – Ophthalmologist and philanthropist


Boston Arts Academy Foundation's 2025 Honors Celebrates Visionary Leaders in Visual Arts, Design, Film, Fashion, Music and Civic Responsibility.
Guest: Denella Clark – Boston Arts Academy Foundation President & CEO


Jack Thomas Book & Upcoming Luncheon on Friday the 24th.
Guest: Geri Denterlein – wife of the late Jack Thomas


On Monday, Amazon Web Services (AWS) went down in the US causing a ripple effect, from governments to small businesses. Cybercriminals & hackers can easily take advantage of outages to deploy array of social engineering attacks. We’ll discuss “cyber-hygiene” & how to stay protected against cyber-attacks.
Guest: Stefanie Schappert, MSCY, CC, Senior Journalist at Cybernews, is an accomplished writer with an M.S. in cybersecurity
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's night with Dan Ray. I'm going Mazy Boston's News Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Welcome in everybody. We are halfway through this week. It
is Wednesday, a little bit after eight o'clock, eight o eight.
If I'm reading my eight oh seven, If I'm reading
my clock correctly and normally, I am. My name's Dan Ray,
host of Nightside along with Rob Brooks, who is back
in the control room at the the big broadcast house.
He's He's where all the action is. I'm simply a host,

(00:30):
remote host trying to keep you informed and entertained for
the next four hours, which I will do all the
way until midnight. We do it five nights a week,
Monday through Friday. And without any further ado, I want
to get to my first guest tonight. She is someone
who is well known, doctor Dana Bloomberg Craft, doctor Dana Kraft. Yes,

(00:53):
doctor Craft is the life partner of Bob Kraft, the
owner of the New England Patriots. And while the New
England Patriots were having fun in Tennessee last weekend, there
was some fun going on at Jillette Stadium. It was
a different type of tailgate party. First of all, doctor
Dana Kraft, Welcome, to night Side. Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Thank you so much for having me Dan and letting
me speak about something that we are passionate about in
the Craft household, which is a all adoption.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, we are very very concerned about pets as well.
If you listen to my show, I end my show
every night as a little bit of a salute to
a cavalier, King Charles Spaniel, who was my best pal
for ten years. Charlie, All dogs, all cats, all pets
go to Heaven. I won't give you the whole rundown
on that. And my daughter has a Corgi who she

(01:51):
adopted from the Situate Animal Shelter. A beautiful dog, just
a beautiful dog. And my son has a short part
Shitsu and part Yorky. But on Sunday, while the while
the Patriots were having their way with the Titans in Tennessee,
you were having fun at the the Potriots petted dogs

(02:16):
and tailgate and watch party at Patriot Place, and I'm
told there was a smashing success. Tell us how it
came to be and tell us what the what the
final score was. It sounds to me like was almost
a perfect day.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah. Well, first of all, I'm so sorry about Charlie.
I can't even I mean, anyone who's had a dog
who knows that kind of you know, unconditional love of
a dog and like that very pure friendship that you
have with the dog, Like can you know it's that
kind of pain is really unimaginable. So let me start.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
By saying that.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
And while you mentioned your daughter had the quirky, is
that right? Yes, I'm gonna give a quick shout out
that we were going to have our first quirky race
on this Sunday, Geam, so that would be kind of fun.
Long yea that she lived.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
In San Francisco, and I know the forty nine ers
have done that. She and her husband now live in
New York, so we'll have to wait. Although I had
Mustard yesterday, we'll have to wait to the giants or
the Jets to it. He unfortunately is odd, but I
would personally drive him there if he was.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Don't know why this whole thing started just with corgies,
but corgies must I don't know, follow commands really well,
run in a really street.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
Line or something.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
But I think we sat in Arizona, I believe, for
the first time, and there's like entire organizations dedicated to Corgi.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Racing, so both THEO goes.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
But I just wanted to give that as a as
a quick shout out. But yeah, we had an absolutely
terrific event on Sunday. It was the first time I
think the Patriots had done anything like this, which was
Patriots viewing parties. So you know, I think one of
the things that dogs do really well is they helped

(04:09):
sort of foster a sense of community. You know. We had, uh,
we had a watch party for Patriots fan so that
they could watch the away game, and we tried to
make it very family friendly and festive, and we had
four local shelters that we had partnered with. They came

(04:32):
with thirty three dogs and as someone pointed out, uh,
the final score, the Patriots had thirty one points. We
got thirty one of the dogs adopted, and we really
just tried to raise the profile of you know, something
I actually knew very little about until recently, but the

(04:52):
importance of you know, rescuing or adopting cuts from shelters
and you know, the joy they really bring into a household.
So it was it was a big success, you know
for the Patriots, but we were very happy with our
watch party and there as we call it's actually called

(05:13):
it our tailgate, yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Spelled it was.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
So that's a pretty good batting average, thirty one out
of thirty three. I'm hoping that that those those two
little dogs who didn't find a home last Sunday will
be displayed prominently at their shelters so we would know
that their their veterans of Jellette Stadium and increase in

(05:41):
veterans of patriots and identification with the New England Patriots
that that will increase their likelihood of I hope.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
So one of them, I know, was on Zillac and
Bertrand on Tuesday and they got a call shortly after
of someone asking to see the dog, and I believe
they were in today. So fingers crossed, maybe little Hermione,
who's one of the few remaining dogs, will be adopted.
But it really was just a thrilling day and a

(06:10):
lot of it was, you know, just this sort of
sense of community, people wanting to come together, people who
really kind of cared, people who wanted to show up,
people who are compassionate, you know about making a difference,
and you know, coming together watching the game, having fun.
Some people came just to learn about maybe you know,

(06:32):
getting up in the future. Some people were very interested
in adopting. Some people just came because they thought it
was a good cause and they wanted to see the patriots.
And you know, for everyone who showed up, I was
just I was It was the first time we were
doing this. We had no idea what to expect. But
I was just so grateful that people were there and
they wanted to learn, and they they wanted to, you know,

(06:52):
partake in a community that supported apimals like this.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Okay, I'm not going to put you on the spot,
but if Zola can try to get a dog adopted,
what what what are the two dogs? What are they?
What's the breed or are they mixed breed? Number one?
And then if some of my listeners want to get
in touch with the shelters, how can we how can
we effectuate this? If someone's listening tonight and would love

(07:18):
to adopt one of these special special puppies, do you
do you have a quit And I know this is
an unfair question because we didn't prepare for it.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
No, no, it's great. We would love that.

Speaker 6 (07:30):
So they are.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
But there are two mixed breeds one was a little
bit older, one was between six months and a year,
and one was a three month old puppy named Hermione.
And they we had two partner organizations, the m S
p c A and the Animal Rescue League. You could

(07:53):
see both of the dogs and the partner organizations at
Patriots Backslash pops and we have the contact information for
both of the organizations. Here's my dog running in right now.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
So the website that they that they can see these dogs,
it's Patriots Backslash one.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
Patrians p A W t R I O T S.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yes, and I miss uh, doctor Kraft, I'm missing that
second word after the backslash show. It's Patriots p A
W t R I O T S backslash.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Pots dot com.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, okay, I got it. Light dawns on marblehead here. Okay,
so we will write that. I will write that down.
I'm going to check it out during the break and
if anyone, uh would would like these are young, these
are puppies. One you said is six months. These are

(08:58):
young puppies.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, well, we have partnered quite closely with the Animal
Rescue League, and I just I wanted to give them
a particular shout out because they came with fourteen puppies
that were rescued from southern Chesters where they were at
risk of being euthanized, and they arranged transport and they
brought them up here, and they had an army of

(09:24):
you know, really helpful volunteers that spend a lot of
time with you know, a number of families. And I
just wanted to you know, we're so thrilled for all
of our partner organizations, but in this particular case, the
Animal Rescue League really were really saving these dogs lives,
you know, And so there was one left. I'm not

(09:46):
even sure if her Miami is still there because she
might have gotten adopted today. But you could certainly take
a look directly at the Animal Rescue League as well,
because they have you know, a constant sort of.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
A there have a lot of people who really do
love pets and there and these are young puppies. This
this this is perfect. Again, thank you for what you do.
Thank Bob Craft for also. I know he's very much
interested in this issue as well.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
He is, yes, and I think he was scared you
would come home and spend like fifty down to earth.
So if you love me to do the event on Sunday,
So it was great.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Well, thank you, thank you so much, doctor Craft, and
I really do appreciate you taking the time tonight. And
uh truly, I tell Bob he's got a lot of
Patriot fans here on Nightside and it's the one organization
right now that is that's rolling here in New England.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
So I will I will tell him you said that.
He'll be so grateful.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
All right, thanks doctor Dana Bloomberg Craft, who is an
optalmologist and a philanthropist and a dog lover like most
of us.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yes, all the thanks again, Thank you again. I really
appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Pleasure, and so Rob, I will give you this in
the break this website if anyone wants to check it out,
we will will encourage them. And if you end up
adopting one of these dogs, I will have you on
the show if you know, if you really go through
with the adoption, and we'll talk about that. There are
two dogs, and I think one of them may already

(11:17):
be gone, but these are young puppies, so these are
great dogs. I will have you on as a as
a as a guest during this hour if you if
you happen to be in the in the marketplace for
a dog and you adopt a dog one of the
puppies that there were only two that didn't make the
cut last Sunday, we need to address that. We'll be

(11:39):
back on Nightside going to talk about the boss That
Arts Academy Foundation's twenty twenty five Honors program, which will
be taking place later this week. We have a couple
of other very interesting guests coming up as well, so
stay with us. My name is Dan Ray and this
is Nightside.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
I'm delighted to welcome Danella Clark. She is the Boston
Arts Academy Foundation President and CEO. Danella, first of all,
before we talk about the honor ceremony that's coming up
this week, what is the history of Boston Arts Academy.
How long has it been around? And it's a public
school for kids in Boston as I understand it correct.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
Yes, thank you so much Dan for having me. You're
welcome Boston. It's an honor to speak to you. I
adore you, I listen to you all the time, and
I'm going to speak to you about Boston Arts Academy Honor.
So Boston Arts Academy is the city of Boston's only
public high school for the visual and performing arts, and

(12:41):
we are celebrating our twenty eighth school year.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
Wow, we've been around here.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
You've been around year.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
We've been around since last century. Yeah, that's true. So
you had this wonderful event coming up tomorrow night at
the mg and Music Hall, which is right by Fenway Park,
and you're going to honor a whole bunch of folks,

(13:10):
but particularly a lot of students as I understand it.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
That's that's correct. So when our school was founded twenty
eight years ago by all of our pro arts colleges
and our beloved Meyror Menino, the City of Boston said, functioning,
we will give you a building and in large part
fund the academics. And then Boston Arts Academy Foundation was
founded one year later. And so the school was always

(13:38):
founded on a public private partnership. And it's through individuals,
corporations and foundations that really helped to keep the arts
in Boston Arts Academy. And so honors is our largest
source of unrestricted revenue. It is our signature fundraiser. And

(13:58):
I copied the KENNI Kennedy Center Honors. I'm in my
ninth year and I created the event after the Kennedy
Center Honors. And so what we do is we give
someone a medal of honor and a trophy in each
of our art forms music, television and film, fashion, dance,
visual arts, and we always give someone a lifetime achievement

(14:22):
and civic responsibility because the tagline for our school is Artists,
scholar and global citizen.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Bro Your lifetime achievement honoree is Donnie Wahlberg, as I
understand it, he's around, I believe, shooting some movie in Boston,
and he's been a big success. Your civic responsibility Honoree
is Grace Lee. You have a music honoree Johnny Gill,
a TV and film honoree Eliza Doushku, a visual art

(14:52):
honoree Lisa James, and a fashion honoree David Joseph. That's
quite a lineup.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
It really is. It really is proud to do it.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Your dance honoree is a Diane Walker, an American tap
dancer who's had a thirty year career that spans Broadway, TV, film,
and international dance concerts. She's also the artistic director at
tap Dance and Incorporated in Boston. That's quite a lineup,
that's quite a group. So this is gonna be a

(15:26):
big event. How can people I know, it's late and
it's tomorrow night at six o'clock at the MGM Music Hall.
How can we Well, first of all, are there any
tickets available?

Speaker 5 (15:38):
There are a few tickets left, and people could go
to Boston Acts Academy dot org. I will tell you
all like your first year to announce it. We just
learned tonight that Keith Lockhart, who's celebrating thirty years. He
loves the school. He and his wife will be joining us.
In addition to all of our student performances, we also

(15:59):
have Remmy Award winner Melissa Manchester. She just got to town.
You know, we're at the MGM Music Hall, so we've
got to have a lot of music. But yes, please
go to Boston ATS Academy dot org and you will
see right there on the website how to get tickets.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Well, you have a few left, Yeah, you got. You
certainly have some special guest appearances and this also includes dinner, dancing,
and more. It sounds to me like a great organization
some year. If you on a radio talk show host.
I'm going to go no matter what, whether I get
an award or not. Only teasing you were having fun
with you.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
Well well, as I said, I love you, Dan Ray,
I listened to you all the time. It's it's really
an honor to talk to you both.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Danella, right back at you. Are you doing such great
work for young people. I was once a young person
in Boston going to high school at a public high
school in Boston. So if I could be successful, I'm
sure many of your students are going to far exceed
whatever limited success I've ever had, because I can tell

(17:06):
from your passion that you have thrown yourself into not
only tomorrow night, but into your all the years you
have spent building the reputation, the great reputation of this
wonderful organization, Boston Arts Academy, and the website is simply
Boston Arts Academy dot org and you can find your

(17:28):
tickets for tomorrow night there, folks. It's going to be
a great event, Danella. Thank you so much for your
time tonight.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
Thank you so much. Dan I often say I love
what I do because I love who I do it for,
and that's the students of Boston Arts Academy. Thank you
so much.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
And what do they say, if you love what you do,
you never have it, You never work a day in
your life. And sometimes sometimes I feel the exact same way.
Sometimes I don't, but but I bet you you feel
that way every day. Thanks again, Dannell. I really enjoy
chatting with you.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
Thanks, thank you.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Take care, okay you I will we get back. We're
going to honor the life and legacy of a friend,
someone who you probably knew if you spent any time
in Boston, Boston Globe writer, reporter, columnist raccontour Jack Thomas.
Jack has gone on to a better place, but we

(18:23):
will have his widow, Jerry dentreline with a special tribute
to a friend of mine. I actually do have a
couple of friends at the Boston Globe. Trust me on that.
Back on night Side, right after the news break at
the bottom.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Of the hour, It's Night Side, Boston's news radio.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
I'm sure that many of you who have been in
Boston for a few years remember the work of Boston
Globe reporter and also a columnist, Jack Thomas, a local
guy who made it pretty big with the Boston Globe.
Jack passed a few months ago, sadly, but he left

(19:10):
behind a wealth of his writing, his writings, and it
has been put together by a dear friend, Jerry Denterline,
Jack's widow. Jerry. I know what a great relationship you
and Jack had over so many years. But I'm looking

(19:30):
at the book here that you have put together. It
is not for sale per se. However, I think at
some point it will come to the basically people will
have an opportunity. You have basically taken the best of

(19:53):
his columns going all the way back to the mid
nineteen seventies right up until his his final his final works,
and it's extraordinary. It's it's extraordinary to read it. And
I know how much you loved him. I love this book,
I'll tell you. And he's a great friend of mine.
But you have you have put together a tribute to

(20:19):
Jack Thomas that I don't think anyone else ever could
have assembled.

Speaker 6 (20:24):
Welcome to that side, Dan, it is a pleasure to
talk to you. You were a great friend to Jack
and to me, and I'm so grateful to be able
to have this conversation tonight. You know, we all try
to remember and let our family have momentos of the
people we love when they pass away. But in my case,
I have a basement full of momentos because Jack didn't

(20:46):
throw away anything, going back to his paper root documents
when he was a paper boy, so I had a
lot to work with, lots of yellow newspapers, and I
was familiar, of course, with much of his work, having
been married to him for thirty five years. But he
had a long career from as you say, he started

(21:07):
the Globe in the late fifties as a caught freshman
copy boy, and he had his last piece and his
last piece before he was really quite sick in twenty
twenty two, So you know, he had a long way
to chronicle the last half of the twentieth century and
the beginning of the oughts, and did some wonderful long

(21:30):
form journalism at a time when you could really write
four thousand words on a subject and get away with it.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
How long did it take you to assemble this? I
can envision the way Jack kept things in order. I'm
sure there was in order to it, but probably was
in order that.

Speaker 6 (21:51):
No, yeah, that was called the basement box order.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Okay, yes, yes, So how long did it take you?
This book is beautiful? I mean this, I could just
read every story that I read. It brings him back
to life, and it brings Boston and that era that
he covered for so long back to life.

Speaker 6 (22:13):
Well, thank you, Dan, thank you for your attention to that.
You know, I did put this together for family and friends,
assembled it with the help of a former reporter, Tom Palmer.
We got a beautiful designer. It's really a book that
I am proud of for my family and friends, and
we have been distributing it. A dear friend, Robin Brown,

(22:36):
whom you might remember who ran The Steven's, hosted a
party at the Cape and on Friday, Ed Fory, one
of Jack's dear friends, who owns and publishes The Boss,
the Dorchester Reporter and the Irish Reporter, is going to
I'm going to be distributing it there as well, So
I do have I did do an ample job of
making sure that people really close to my family and

(22:58):
close to Jack were able to get it as you have,
and I hope that there will be a second printing.
Who knows. Who knows. But it was a lack of
It was a labor of love, and it was a
hard thing to do because you see so much of
the in the pieces that I selected of Jack, of
his personality, of the way he had a lyrical and
sentimental view of places that he loved like Dorchester and

(23:23):
Boston and Old Orchard Beach. All got a lot of
love in his columns, and the people he loved. You know,
he talked about, you know, Julia Child. He wrote a story,
a love letter to Julia, and you know he is
really quite enamored with her, And so I included three
pieces of his love letters to Julia. He said in

(23:45):
one he said, Hey, Julia, you remember me. I'm the
person who once proposed to you in print that we
run away together. I don't know if it was. I
knew we were meant for each other back in the
days of the French chef when you couldn't say firm
flesh fish. So you know that's the kind of thing
that he would he would write. And really also many

(24:07):
people remember and have commented to me he was the
one who who met with Maury Schwartz and wrote what
was called a Professor's Final Course that inspired a young
student to go visit Mary Schwartz and write Tuesdays with Maury.
So you don't you realize Mitchams what impact a newspaper
article had had inspired Mitch Album to go visit Maury Schwartz,

(24:29):
And I think young journalists need to know that they
never know which piece is going to strike a chord,
whether it be a public policy or whether it be
a human interest story like that story which now has
been read all over.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
The world Tuesdays with Maury absolutely All. Album Albaum now
does a talk show. He's a talk show hosted Detroit.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
Amazing, Amazing, and you know he's yeah, it is the
small world.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
So tell us about the event. The event is on Friday.

Speaker 6 (25:06):
On Friday, the Forye Family, which is ed fory Bill,
Maureen and Linda Dorsina Flourie host what's called the Boston
Irish Reporter Luncheon and they honor people who have families
who have made an impact Irish American families who have
made an impact. This year, it's the honorees are Jim
O'Connell Healthcare for the Homeless. Yes, of course, he's so

(25:32):
revered for his good work on human human rights and
for homeless people and caring for home the homeless. So
and Claire Crown from the former Ambassador and Ireland. The
former Ambassador to Ireland and also President Marty Mehan are
the honorees and Jack will be remembered and honored for

(25:54):
this book, and so I will be able to give
the book out to people who are attending that. But
also I want to mention that the Fory family and
this year is announcing that they have created a foundation
for for a family foundation for Young Journalists to support
scholarships and internships for young journalists. So that will be
part of not the Fory family legacy, but something Jack

(26:17):
cared about very much, inspiring the next generation of journalists.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
This is a wonderful book. I have not read every article,
although I probably read all of his articles, really wrote
them a riginal I'm sure.

Speaker 6 (26:31):
You read them at the time, you were such a
good reader with them.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Now twenty thirty forty years later is even more incredible.
And the work that you have done. And I know
how much Jack loved you, and I know how much
you loved him. This book is testament to that. I
mean just it's everybody should have a job and someone
who loves them as much as you love Jack. To

(26:55):
basically memorialize in a book the work of the life,
it is a great gift. It is just a great
gift to everyone and a great gift to his memory.
So are the tickets still available to the event on Friday?

Speaker 6 (27:12):
There are probably tickets if you go on the Irish
I know that I should mention that it was moved.
It was at the Kennedy Library and so it was
moved to the Humanity Artist for Humanity Spot because of
the shutdown. So I'm not sure that I can say

(27:33):
that there are tickets available, but certainly you know I'm
easy to find because I own a communications company. But
so if anyone cares to reach out to me, I
will do what I can to make sure that they
get at least if I have extra copies that the
after the luncheon, that people can get them from me directly.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Okay, and everyone knows Jerry Dental Line in the business,
but the website for the company in this day and age,
we no longer get go ahead, what's the website?

Speaker 6 (28:02):
Yes, no, it's it's it's Genterline denterline dot com. So
anyone can find it. It's my name and I'm the
only one with that particular spelling d e n t
e r l e i N, so easy to find
and and you honor me by having me on tonight
and celebrating Jack's work. It's really a living legacy for

(28:24):
me and my family.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Great a great picture of him at a typewriter, which
is exactly the way that he should be remembered. It's
kind of a nineteen seventy is haircut there that all
of us at one point or Yeah, he captured he
captured his words, and you captured his image, Jerry, and
congratulates well the image.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
I must I say, it's it's Pulitzer two time Pulitzer
Prize winner Stan Grosveld's picture that he just captured Jack
spontaneously and his former college well, his colleague, current writer
for the Boston Globe, and they refers to it as
the Prince Valleyant haircut nineteen seventies.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Absolutely perfect description. I wish I had thought of that.
I would have I would have coined it. Jerry, we
will talk soon, and again I treasure I treasured this
book as I know you treasured you and you treasured him.
Thanks so much, Jerry.

Speaker 6 (29:19):
All right, I thank you, my friend. Take care by now.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
When we get back, we will wrap the hour and
at nine o'clock we're going to talk about a big
jump in real estate taxes for commercial and business owners
in Cambridge. But when we get back, we're going to
talk about something called cyber hygiene. And with the big

(29:42):
problems with Amazon earlier this week, as it may be
a I guess something of a suggestion of what may
await all of us in the next few years and
what we can do about it to prevent us from

(30:03):
being you and me from being victims of phishing attacks.
And this a ws out, the Amazon Web service outage
is likely going to only encourage the bad guys out
there to do more phishing. And so we're going to
talk about cyber hygiene. We'll explain it right after the break.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
It's night Side with Boston's news radio The.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Lighted to welcome Stephanie Shopper. She's a senior journalist at
Cyber News and accomplished writer with an MS and cyber
security Master of Science degree in cybersecurity. Welcome Stephanie to Nightside.
You are basically a modern day paul Revere as it were,
maybe it's a more modern day Pauline Revere talking about

(30:51):
cyber criminals and hackers that can take it outages. So
what do we what do we need to fear in
this coming brave or even braver new world.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Oh wow, do you have a couple of hours? No,
I'm seizing, I mean, yeah, yeah, of course no. So
I mean obviously everybody was affected by this big Amazon
uh you know aws adage, which is their you know
data center cloud services that a lot of companies use,
about a thousand companies, you know, located in northern Virginia.

(31:27):
It impacted everybody for about twelve hours. You know, everything
from you know, your communication apps to banks to airlines.
You know, even my fitness Pal and Hinge were affected.
So yeah, and so you know, when people, you know,
have these things happen, they you know, go, okay, what
do I do? How do I get back online? And

(31:49):
this is when the cyber criminals come out and they decide,
let's take advantage of this, and they usually will blanket
lift some fishing attacks and I'm not sure if you
know what that is, but fishing a tax are usually yeah,
emails are texts and basically you know, one of the
tenants is that they prey on human emotions, so they

(32:10):
you know, have a sense of urgency. They might give
you a little scare, but you know, for people that
are that have a major outage, if they're not you know,
paying attention to the news, they don't know what's going on.
They might get an email that just says, hey, we
can reset your computer, or we can get you back
on this app 're tech support. They could send you
an email that offers to refund you for the services

(32:32):
that you missed out on over those ten hours. And
so basically in any email, you should or a text message,
you should never be clicking on a link unless you
know what it is. You know, if a company sends
you an email like that, which they never really will,
but you can always check by typing the you know,

(32:54):
web address into your browser to make sure you go
directly to that company's website.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
You know.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
You also, when you have an outage, you have to
be careful. Don't do any like major transactions. Don't upgrade
your compute, you know, your software, change your passwords, that
kind of thing. But you know, it's a good it's
a good time to just kind of take stock of
where you are when it comes to cybersecurity. And you know,
some of the things that I always stressed people is

(33:23):
to have really robust passwords, you know, people find it
to be annoying. But multi factor authentication, which means you know,
you uh, put in your password and you wind up
getting you know, oppose your phone or something like that,
and it is a pain in the neck. But you
should have a different password for every account. Using a
password manager is quite helpful with that. You know, always

(33:46):
make sure your programs and your software up to date
that you're installing, you know, anti virus and malware. If
you're out in public and you're using Wi Fi, to
make sure you're using a VPN on your phone or
your lap top. That's going to protect you know, against
fishing attacks and basically the criminals they just want your
personal information.

Speaker 7 (34:08):
Well, one of the things that I've noticed a lot
lately is you get this bill from some company and
as you know, your your your you you will be
charged four hundred and ninety nine dollars ninety nine cents
for the service. Yeah, all I do is I I
have a very simple procedure. I look at the You
could look very easily if someone shows you who has

(34:30):
sent that to you, and normally it's like very it's
never the name of the company, and so you immediately.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
You say block block just block. The other thing which
you get now is that I've been getting the last
couple of weeks a lot of g You're a passenger,
You're such a loyal passenger on Delta Airlines. We want
to send you a gift to police. Click here. I
have a phone down for a long time. So just
use your head, you know, as your mother told you

(35:02):
when you were young. And I think that sounds too
good to be true. Probably is, and it just you know,
don't allow your curiosity to overcome you. I'm an inherently
curious person, and I have to be because that's what
I do for my job. I need to know a
lot about a lot of things, but but I just
don't want to. Is there a good password manager that

(35:24):
you would suggest to people out there? The companies that
provide Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
I mean pretty much most of them do. I mean,
you can, you know, like Nord, you know has something,
you know, Nord password management. Most most of the time,
you know, you can just purchase it's a service. Sometimes
they come free with your you know, cable subscriptions, and
basically you set them up and it's kind of like

(35:50):
if you have Google saving your passwords for you. It's
kind of similar to that where it'll just automatically ask
you if if you want it to create a password,
and so it's stores all of them for you. They're unique.
There are over twelve characters. Of course you won't remember them,
but you know, the the other thing if people don't
want to use a password manager is to come up

(36:11):
with a phrase and then you would take the first
letter of you know, each of the words, and you
can because no one's good and it has to be
something very silly. It could be I like ice cream
in the park, and you know, you would have the
first letter I and then the next letter you know,
capital lowercase, and so you can do something like that,

(36:33):
which is what I do because I, you know, I
never trust anything. But yeah, and one of the things
that I just want to mention, I know you were
saying about looking into the browser and looking at you know,
who's sending you the website address. Cyber criminals are getting
very very savvy and they will, you know, make a
phishing email look exactly like you know, a bank, let's say,

(36:56):
and they may have just one character different in in
the in the web side address. So that's like just
something to be aware of, you know, and there's also
a few other scams, you know, they're called vishing, where
people can call you, and those AI deep fakes are
getting very good at that. And then there's quishing, which
is where you get packages in the mail and they

(37:17):
might have a QR code on it and they'll tell you, oh,
scam this and you're going to get a present or
a prize or find more information. So that's something else
to look out for.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
All good advice, Stephanie, all great advice. How can folks
follow you or find your website? Most most people like yourself,
like to interact with others. Do you have a website
we can direct bee?

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Yes, yes, yes, I'm at cybernews dot com. I'm one
of the journalists at cybernews dot com. And you can
also find me on Twitter or x excuse me at
Steph Shapper. So that's my handle at Steph Shapper. And
uh yeah, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
And shopperd is s C H A P P E R. Yeah,
all right, thank you, Stefan. We'll have you back. Thank
you very much. I enjoyed the conversation. For a great night,
good night, bye bye. When we get back, we're going
to talk with the owner of Grendel's Den and the
Seahawt hag Uh in Cambridge. Uh, there's been a real

(38:21):
jump in the commercial real estate tax obligations that are
now imposed upon business and commercial owners in Cambridge. This
is going to get ugly over in Cambridge. We'll be
back right after the nine o'clock news on night Side
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