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October 23, 2025 37 mins
We kicked off the program with four news stories and different guests on the stories we think you need to know about!

The unsolved murder of Jean Lampron.
Guest: Emily Sweeney – Cold Case Files Reporter for the Boston Globe

Stand up Comedian Adam Carolla talks about his upcoming comedy show at the Wilbur Theatre in Boston on November 6th!
Guest: Adam Carolla – Standup Comedian, actor & radio personality

The Boston Globe and NESN will be launching a weekly sports show dedicated to covering it all! The Boston Globe Sports Report is launching on October 27, hosted by Ben Volin.
Guest: Ben Volin – Boston Globe Sports Reporter

Eye injuries are rising among pickleball players…
Guest: Marisa Tieger, MD, Ophthalmologist at Tufts Medical Center – did a recent study on this very topic.  
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nice eyes with Dan Ray. I'm going easy Boston's
News Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Weobod evening everybody and welcome on into a Thursday night edition.
It kind of feels like Friday, but it's only a third.
It's only Thursday. So the good news is you have
us tonight and you have us tomorrow. We being Rob
Brooks and myself. Rob is back in the broadcast central headquarters.
We cannot tell you where that is, obviously, because it's

(00:26):
a super secret. I can't tell you where I am
except on broadcasting remotely, which means I could be anywhere. However,
we have lots to cover tonight. We're gonna be talking
with Emily Sweeney about a cold case coming up, gonna
be talking with stand up comedian Adam Carolla. I'm gonna
talk with Boston Globe sports reporter Ben Volan, and gonna

(00:46):
talk about eye injuries with picketball in pickleball with a
an ophthalmologist, doctor Marisa Tiger. I hope I'm pronounced that's right.
It's not Tiger because there's an E in this, so
I want to say it's Tiger from Tufts Medical Center.
Then we will talk with New Hampshire Republican Senate candidate.

(01:07):
And by the way, I confirmed today that never before
in the history of this country since we went by
I think it was the seventeenth of May. I have
to go figure out which one it was. Popular election
of senators. They used to be appointed by the state legislature.
This is the first time two former US senators, in
the persons of Scott Brown and John Sanunu, both former

(01:31):
United States Senators, will fight for the nomination in twenty
twenty six twenty twenty six for the Republican nomination in
New Hampshire. And then we will at ten o'clock tonight
get into this huge story, this huge story of gambling
and sports betting and alleged criminal behavior by, amongst others,

(01:57):
three former players, all of whom some point in time
we're associated with the Celtics. So we're going to get
to everything tonight. But first, one of my favorite guests
of any month, we have her twice a month, Emily Sweeney. Emily,
welcome back to Night's side.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Hey Dan, thanks so much for having me. Happy Thursday.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah right. The great thing about Thursday is is not Wednesday,
but it's not quite Friday. So here we are You're
going to talk about a tough cold case that only
happened about twenty years ago in South Boston when some
punk mugged an older woman in South Boston. She fought back,
she got dragged, she died, and the punk got away

(02:40):
with her pocketbook and cost her her life. Tell us
about this case, this one. There must be some people
who know about this one because this is too recent.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Oh, absolutely, Dan. It happened on October thirteenth, two thousand
and five, which is twenty years ago. Jeane Lampron, she's
sixty eight years old. She's in selfie walking to the
bus stop to go to work early in the morning.
It was like five fifteen in the morning, when somebody
on a bike, a guy in a bike knocks her

(03:12):
over and tries taking her bag, and she puts up
a fight. She doesn't want to give up our pocketbook,
you know, and you know, he ends up dragging her
and getting away and fleeing on foot. And the big
thing about this case is, you know, obviously he's never
been caught, but the bike was left behind, and you

(03:33):
know that in and of itself, it could be a
big clue to maybe solving this case.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, they find any hopefully some DNA on the case
on the.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Bike, you know, you know, I'm not sure about that,
but police did put out like what type of bike
it was. It was a metallic brown so kind of
like rust colored, fifteen speed Magna Zanziba bike and it
was a missing one pedal, So you know, there might
be somebody out there that remembers, like, hey, there was

(04:04):
this kid in the neighborhood you used to you know,
ride a bike. You know, it's hard to ride a
bike with one pedal.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Uh, I assume I assume that this bike must be kept,
must be around for evidence, right.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it is a BPD. You know,
it's looking for information on the case that they usually
don't reveal, you know, what they have or don't have
for evidence. But you know the fact that they publicize
the exact brand of the bike and everything, I'm sure
it is. But you know, somebody out there knows something

(04:37):
that you know, I talked to Jean's you know, family,
and there was a name bandied about, you know, as
a possible suspect, and you know, somebody out there must
know something. And if somebody knows about this bike or
remembers whoever owned this bike, that could be the piece
of the puzzle that could solve this.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Well, you know, I think about South Boston and I
think about times. By two thousand and five, White Bulger
had left South Boston, he was still on the run.
But my suspicion is that as bad a dude as
he was, that if he was still running South Boston

(05:19):
as it was alleged, that whoever did this probably would
have been caught pretty quickly because that sort of thing,
when it happened while Whitey Bulger was there, there would
have been an effort by Bulger and his people to
find out who this guy was. And it's yeah, that

(05:41):
does nothing to in any way, shape or form legitimatize, legitimize,
or justify what Whitey Bulger did, but it did kind
of show that things changed in southis and a lot
of that type of literally street crowned. This woman's going
to work at five point thirty in the morning at
the age of sixty eight, the age of sixty eight,

(06:03):
and the punk who did this to her probably hadn't
didn't have a real job, because if he's up riding
his bike trying to rip you know, pocketbooks out of
the hands of older women who are probably heading to work. Yeah,
you know, don't put me on the jury with this guy, because.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
No, A's first, you know, a grandmother, you know, And
you know, this case is up on the Boston Police
Department's website. And I also want to mention that BPD
now is listing all the unsolved murders going back to
nineteen sixty three on their website, and there's eighteen hundred

(06:49):
of them.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Eight hundred unsolved orders going back to nineteen sixty three. Okay, yeah,
I'm going to do some quick math on that. That
is forty sixty sixty three years if I'm not mistaken. Okay,
so you said eighteen hundred, that's man, that's like thirty
unsolved murders a year on average. I just did a

(07:14):
little short division in my head.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, there's a lot, as you know, And Gene Lamp
runs up on the website along with you know, over
a thousand others, and you know, police are hoping by
listening all of them that again, it will maybe shake
out information from the public.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Well, I'll tell you, I hope. So the other thing is,
if they do have the bike, I assume that periodically
DNA materials, testing materials become a little more efficient. And
we hope they go back and they test this bike
or whatever they can do fingerprints or DNA, because wouldn't

(07:55):
that be wonderful if it had been sitting there for
you know, twenty years or now eighteen seventeen years and
it had been forgotten, go back and retest it with
all this DNA stuff is better every every couple of years,
you know. Just a thought, Emily, just a thought. Yeh
that's too recent for someone not to know. I'm hoping

(08:18):
someone listens tonight, and I hope that if the creep
that did it is listening tonight, and I hope he
doesn't go to sleep because someone's going to rat you out. Thanks.
That's right, I put it like that, But I want
to end it on an exclamation point. Emily, you are
the best. Thank you so much. I appreciate your time
a couple of times a month, and we'll talk to
you in early November.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
All right, Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Dan, I appreciate it to one more time because we
do this all the time. How can they follow your
cold case files at the Globe and they also, I believe,
can sign up for your email absolutely free of charge.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, the newsletter. You can sign up if you go
to Globe dot com slash Cold Case files perfect and yeah,
please do.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
There aren't too many good things that are available these
days free of charge, and this is one of them,
that's for sure. Thanks them, Talk you soon.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Okay, Thanks Dan, My pleasure.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
My pleasure. We get back on to talk without stand
up comedian Adam Carolla. He will be appearing on November
sixth at the Wilber Theater in Boston. So we'll be
talking with Adam Carola and find out what it's like
to be a stand up comedian. He's also an actor
in a radio personality, so I got a couple of
things in common with this guy. We'll talk with them
right after the break. Here on a Thursday night edition

(09:37):
of Nightside.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm BZ, Boston's news radio.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Well delighted to welcome comedian, amongst other things, comedian, also
actor and radio personality Adam Carola, who's going to be
swinging by the Wilbur Theater here in Boston in early November.
On November sixth, Adam Carolla, Welcome to Boston.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
How are you sir, thanks for having me. Sorry, I'm
on pH driving by a bunch of burnt out houses
in the connection here is a little spotty, but it
should get better.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, minustating is you. You have a little bit of
background in real estate as a contractor, and I just
getting ready for this. I noticed you you did a
piece a lot of those buildings that those homes were
build by, uh, destroyed in that horrific fire of early
this year. Not much progress in getting rebuilds done out there.
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Well, we don't like progress here in Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Number one.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
We like progressive ideas like you know, giving clean beetles
to junkies for free and stuff like that. We don't
like progress. So we like progressive ideas, but we don't
really like the progress part.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Sound sound like my sort of guy, because I kind
of that's my view of what I call the progs. H.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
But we don't do u uh and we don't like permits.
We don't like people who do. They don't like people
who do things here, so they don't like people building.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, no, they prefer in many cases, I assume, to
allow people to pitch a tent in your neighborhood or
maybe out on your street, so you can sort of
share your property with people who have never contributed to it. Yeah,
that's that's part of the problem. Yeah, tell me about
the comedy tour. I have been in a different type
of business, television and radio here in Boston for a

(11:35):
long long time. Had a role in one movie. So
and I know that you do a podcast, so we
kind of I think, probably think alike, and I'm going
to become a bigger fan of yours as a result.
But how tough is it to get up on that stage.
I've never done anything like stand up comedy. How tough
is it to get up in there that stage and

(11:56):
try to do your show, particularly when you're starting and
you got the guy in the back of the room
in the shadows trying to give you a hard time.
It's a tough business to break into.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
It.

Speaker 6 (12:08):
It's it's tough until it's not tough.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
And then it becomes very easy and kind of second nature.
So you know, for me, it's pretty easy and pretty
second naturey. But it's because I've got my ten thousand
hours in. But if you can't do it, it's I mean,
you know, I guess it's like riding a unicycle. I

(12:32):
can ride a unicycle. It's pretty easy for me to
ride a unicycle. But if you can't ride an unicycle,
then it's impossible. Yeah, to ride a unicycle, or serve
or speak Japanese, you know, So it all kind of depends.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, the only thing I know about Japanese is arigotto,
So I want to arigotto you for being with us tonight.
Let's talk about the Wilberg have you. Have you played
Boston before?

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yes, I have played Boston before, and yes I have
played the wilbur before, but it's been a while, and
I'm sort of excited to come back because it's a
beautiful old theater and I can picture it in my
head and maybe played it a couple of times, but
it's been at least six or seven years since I've

(13:18):
been to the Wilbur.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Well, I'm sure you're going to do well in it.
In reading your bio, I was kind of struck by
the fact a lot of people want to go to Hollywood,
go to southern California, go to LA and make it big.
You didn't have to go there. You were born there
and you've made it big. There's not too many people
who find I was born in Boston and I've stayed
in Boston my entire life, so I kind of have

(13:41):
that sort of feeling towards you as well. You're a guy,
you knew what you wanted to do, and you're able
to do it despite obstacles that have to be thrown
in the way of anybody that wants to break into
you know, live show business, which you have done so successfully.
How did you know down deep at early in your

(14:03):
life this is what you wanted to do. Well.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
I wasn't a good student, so and I wasn't going
to be a lawyer or doctor. I wasn't going to
work in the white collar world. Not because I didn't
want to, but I just I didn't have the chops.
I couldn't spell, I couldn't read, I couldn't write, you know.
It was just it was clear that I was not
going to work in that world. And so I ended

(14:31):
up on a construction site and I got I learned
pretty fast on the construction site that this didn't seem
like a big picture, long term kind of job. Even
though I ended up doing it for a decade, I
knew it was hard work and dirty work, and you

(14:52):
got your tools stolen, and the guys weren't much fun,
and most of them didn't speak English. And you know,
I ate your lunch on a pile of drywall, and
I didn't want to be there, but I had to
because I didn't have any money. So I started working
on comedy, you know, at night. By day I was
swinging a hammer. At night, I was doing comedy, and

(15:15):
I was just looking for a way out. I didn't
really have a strong belief in myself. I was more
desperate than anything else.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Well, I'll tell you there's there's nothing like hunger which
can which can force people to figure out what they
want to do. And it sounds to me like you
figured out fairly early on what you were good at.
I'm a lawyer, by the way, it's money that you
mentioned that. I so I'm kind of similar in some ways,

(15:45):
maybe dissimilar in others. I had a speaking role in
Reversal of Fortune with the Clubs Voibula movie. I know
you've had more movies appearances than I have, but but
it's great fun, Adam, to talk to someone who is
taking a road. It's really a different road, and you're
gonna you're gonna slay him at the Wilbert. It's on

(16:07):
November sixth, which, if I'm not mistaken, correct me, I'm wrong,
that's a Friday night.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
I hope it's a Friday night because the weekends are better.
It is, yeah, I will.

Speaker 7 (16:19):
I I don't think people know me as a stand up.
They may know me from you know, radio or podcasting
or books or documentaries or television or what have you.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
But I think if you come out, you will be
very pleasantly surprised because I am definitely a stand up.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Well, by the way, I gotta correct myself, it's actually
a Thursday night. But Thursday nights are good too, because
there's a lot of people here in Boston on Thursday afternoon,
you know what they say to each other, have a
great weekend, so you know, Friday is kind of a
slow day here and here in Boston, and then people start
start the weekend early. Adam, you're selling my sort of guy, real,

(17:04):
real pleasure to chat with you, and I hope that
many of my listeners will will stop by the Wilburt
and spend some time with you on Thursday night, November sixth, upcoming.
Thank you so much, and I'll be following your career
a lot more closely.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Thanks for having me, and if you want to come
out Thursday, say the word, we'll get your ticket.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Well, I'm I got a show to do that night.
I have on a year Monday through Friday night from
eight to midnight. Next time you're in town and you're there,
sell eight to midnight. I do the time.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
I've forgot about the time different.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, no, I know, ye, hey, you know what I
signed up for it. It is a lifestyle when you're
doing four hours a night on WBZ out of Boston.
We're a big radio station. We got a lot of
people around the country, and you've got a lot of
fans around the country. So hopefully we've hooked them up
with you tonight and you'll have You'll have a blast
in Boston. Spend some time here. It's a great city.

(17:59):
They're trying to mess it up. It's a great city.
Trusts me. Okay, thanks you for me my pleasure. Hope
to meet you and talk to you again. Thank you much.
We got the news at the bottom of the hour
coming up. And on the other side, we have benvolan
great writer with the Boston Globe. He's part of the
Globe Sports team. They are great guys. Dan Shaughnessy, we'll

(18:20):
be with us later on tonight at ten o'clock to
talk about the NBA betting and gambling scandal, but with
Ben Volan, we're going to talk about the Boston Globe
Sports Report, which launches let's see Today's the twenty third,
which is a Thursday early next week, October twenty seventh,
and we'll talk to Ben Volan of the Boston Globe.

(18:42):
We might touch on the scandal as well, but we'll
talk a little football with him as well. Benvolin coming
up on the other side, right after the news break.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
News Radio.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Delighted to be joined by Boston Globe sports writer Ben
Vole And Hey Ben, how are you tonight?

Speaker 6 (19:05):
Seeing Dan? Thanks for having me on tonight.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Well, I got a lot of buddies in the sports department.
You guys are the best sports page I think anywhere.
It's the first segment of the newspaper that I read
every morning with my hands, with my newspaper my paper subscription.
I get around to the editorial page, but it takes
a while. If you know what I'm saying, Ben, you

(19:28):
are going to start a new weekly sports show dedicating
to Cup, dedicated to covering it all, called The Boston
Globe Sports Report that launches next week October twenty seventh,
which I believe is Monday. Tell us about it? How
can folks listen in on it? And you got a
lot to talk about Monday nine, Go right ahead.

Speaker 6 (19:50):
Yeah, thanks for giving me the opportunity. Dan, Yeh, it's
gonna be a lot of fun. It's a partnership between
the Messing and the Globe, and the way I describe
it to people, it's kind of like PTI, but Boston specific.
It's gonna be myself every week in a rotating cast
of Boston Globe sports writers, all the names you've grown

(20:11):
to love over the years, Dan Shaughnessy, Chad Finn, Chris Gasper,
all of our beat writers, all of our experts, and
we're gonna be breaking down all Boston sports, all the
biggest stories every week. You know, We're gonna be debating
and offering bold opinions and breaking it down and going
deep inside the team and offering all the expertise that

(20:35):
readers have come to expect from the Globe and we're
gonna brings, as you so nicely said, the best sports
section of the country. We're gonna bring it from the
pages of the newspaper to your screen now. And the
other great thing about this show is there are a
million different ways to consume it. It will be airing
on Nessen on Mondays starting this Monday, I believe at
five o'clock, but you can also watch it on Boston

(20:57):
Globe dot com. It will live on the YouTube page,
it will be all over Instagram and social media. So
there are gonna be a million different ways for people
to consume it. But it will be on the terrestrial
television on Netsan five o'clock on Monday. And like I said,
we're just gonna be breaking down. Obviously I do a

(21:19):
lot of football, but we're gonna be talking all Boston sports.
And this time of year, man, is there a lot
going on between the Celtics and Bruin seasons starting up,
the Patriots in full swing, the World Series getting going now,
so a lot of sports that talk about and we're
gonna have a lot of fun on the Boston Globe
Sports Reports.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Well, it's interesting because I know one of the subjects
that probably we need to dive a little bit more
deeply in is the future of Bill Belichick on at UNC.
I never thought that we would follow UNC football as
closely as we have this fall, but obviously things are
not going well for the big guy down there in
North Carolina. I'm sure that I know you have a

(21:59):
paid toots background. Clearly he's gonna last the year. Do
you think he comes back a year from now?

Speaker 6 (22:07):
You know, I wouldn't even go as far to say
that clearly he's gonna make the year. I just think
there's such a tidal wave of negative attention that that
he and uh, you know, his girlfriend have brought upon
the program. And of course the losing two they're two
and four and they're ower and four against you know

(22:27):
what they call power four teams, the real teams. They're
owing four and they get blown out every week. So
it's just been negative headlines and bad football for Bill Belichick.
I don't see him leaving. If if anything, it's gonna
be UNC deciding that they've had enough, and that again
it's just too much negativity to justify keeping him around.

(22:49):
And we'll see. I mean, he's been good for the
university as far as you know, before the season started,
there was a lot of fundraising, a lot of money
coming in from donors because of Bill Belichick. So certainly
the university was happy with the Belichick effect leading up
to the season. If the money Spigott shoves off, and
I think that gives UNC, you know, the thought to

(23:12):
maybe move on. But the contract is going to be
an issue for them. Ooh, he signed a five He
signed a five year, fifty million dollar contract and three
years thirty million of it are fully guaranteed. So after
this year, he's still going to have twenty million dollars
that uncos him. If they want to cut him a
fat check and fire him, I think he you know,
that's that's their right, but he's not going to go

(23:34):
anywhere for any any less than that money that they in.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
The other thing too, is that these are not his
recruited players. I mean, I'm not a huge Bill Belichick fan.
I mean I think he does He's done a great
job what he does. He probably could work on the
personality a little bit. I used to love you guys
and the postgame shows after the Patriots game. I would watch,
particularly if they lost, to see how few syllables he

(24:00):
could use in answering questions from from the reporters. It
was painful, painful to watch, but they should give him
a couple of years to recruit some players. Those aren't
his players that they're out on the field. So I
don't want to sound like, you know, I'm a Bill
Belichick supporter or someone who's rationalizing the results. I mean,

(24:22):
they're getting croaked by these teams. He I hope they
get to play like maybe elon On on their schedule.
I think they could beat Elon in North Carolina if
they got them on the schedule. But it's you know,
I don't know. It's been It's been a long, strange
trip for Bill Belichick post Patriots, that's for sure. And

(24:42):
I don't know where it goes from here. Probably nobody does.
Maybe maybe he doesn't. You're gonna have guests on there
as as as weeks go by, or is it going
to be always the folks, the cognate scent II who
who understand the game probably better than most people.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
Well, it will be heavy on the you know, Globe
sports writers. Of course. The first show, Dan Shaughnessy is
gonna be co hosting with me, So Dan and I
will have some great sports talk. But yeah, every show
there is a five to six minute segment that's an interview.
Sometimes it'll be another Globe sports writer, maybe a beat writer,
and we'll get you know into the weeds with you know,

(25:22):
deep on a team or uh you know. For this week,
our first guest is lum Marloni from Nessen, So we'll
have Lou on to talk about the World Series and
the Red Sox and the offseason and what he expects
you know, the Red Sox to do from building our team.
So yes, there will be outside guests, internal guests as well,
just a lot of good conversations with the experts you

(25:46):
know that fans have grown to appreciate, not just with
the Globe, but with you know, Nesson experts as well
and outside people that we bring in for interviews. So
it's gonna be well rounded conversations. We're gonna get deep
into the you know, issues facing each team every day,
and it's going to be broad based around the you know,

(26:08):
the four Boston teams, anything interesting that's going on elsewhere
sports wise in our region, and then anything nationally that
just you know, people are talking about like this, you know,
NBA gambling, scandal today. I'm sure if we had a
show right now, well we would talk about it so well.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
As a mat matter of fact. Then we don't have
a show right now, but in an hour and fifteen minutes,
I'll have your colleague Dan Shaughnessy on night side talking
about that today. This is extraordinarily sophisticated. I was stunned
to realize what devices electronic devices are now available to

(26:45):
basically pick people's pockets illegally. Stunning news conference this morning
with the US Attorney in New York and the head
of the FBI. So you could start off with that
on Monday. And as they say, we got Dan Shaughnessy
coming up too. So it's a it's a daily double
tonight for the Boston Globe sports writers and I appreciate
you taking the time to be with us. One quick question,

(27:08):
isn't it our segment every night? Is I you know,
I assume now that you're feelingess and it's not one
of those things where we will go as long as we
can you're gonna fill. Is it an hour long show?

Speaker 6 (27:18):
No, it's a half hour show. That's okay, it's a
half hour show. And when it lives, when it goes
on to YouTube and Boston you know that. I think
it'll be twenty two twenty three minutes, and then we're
gonna cut and then we're gonna cut it up. It's
a lot of shorter segments as well, so we're gonna
cut it up for social media. You know, here's a

(27:38):
forty five second clip, here's a two minute clip, so
you know it all it fits nicely into a thirty
minute TV show format, but it also will live well online,
kind of chopped up into various pieces.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Man, I do four hours, five nights a week here
on PC, so you know, I'm a little envious of
what you're doing there. That sounds like a lot of fun.
And I love you used the phrase terrestrial television. We
talk about terrestrial radio here as well. So congratulations on it,
well deserved and I'll be watching it myself.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
I'll looking forward to it well, thank you very much.
Like I said, Mondays at five o'clock on Nettling and
then YouTube, Boston Globe dot Com, Instagram, all various platforms.
But yeah, Boston Globe Sports Report, We're gonna have a
lot of fun with it.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Sounds great. Ben Vollen, Boston Globe spend some time with us.
Thanks Ben, I'll be watching Monday night. Go break a leg.
As we say in show business.

Speaker 6 (28:35):
Thank you so much, Thank you, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
You're very welcome. When we get back, going to talk
about a different sport, pickleball, and everybody thinks pickleball is
kind of like this easy sport for older folks. Well,
tomorrow night, we're going to talk to someone who's involved
in the organization of a professional senior professional pickleball league.
Believe it or not. That's tomorrow night. But when we

(28:58):
come back on to talk with Tiger. She's an optomologist
at the Tough's Medical Center about eye injuries that are
impacting pickleball players. I got a real simple solution, they
need to wear goggles. But we'll see what doctor Tiger
has to say. Tiger, excuse me, Tiger is the correct pronunciation. Good.
I love that doctor Marissa Tiger movie with us. She's

(29:21):
an optomologist that Tough's Medical Center. Coming back on Night Side.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Delighted to be joined by doctor Marissa Tiger. You got
an extra e in that name. I mispronounced it is Tiger,
and I apologize for that.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
Doctor, no problem, thanks so much for having me.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
You're an optthalmologist that Tough's Medical Center. I happen to
really be fond of optalmologists. I've had eye surgery back
in nineteeny two for a detached retina, and it's been
it's been an interesting experience, and that is for sure,
and that's we're going to talk about eye injuries among

(30:05):
pickleball players. Everybody thinks of pickle ball is a game
where they kind of you know, sort of like a
little table tennis type thing, but it can get a
little bit more active than that. What sort of injuries
are we talking about with the game of pickleball?

Speaker 5 (30:21):
So, you know, you're right, people think it's pretty harmless.
But these balls can you know, pick up a pretty
good speed up to sixty miles per hour. And you know,
there's a few different types of injuries. You know, first,
the ball directly to the eye can cause injuries from
the front to the back. You know, from corneal abrasions
to blood in the front of the eye, to things
like retinal tears and retinal detachments or you know, full

(30:44):
thickness injuries in the wall of the eye open globe injuries,
but other injuries can also happen from falls and also
from the paddle hitting the eye. So you know, there's
a lot of different mechanisms for this and they can
range from mild injuries to pretty you know, site throat
and make severe injuries.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
So why are people not wearing by necessity goggles? I mean,
the National Hockey League now forces the players to at
least war that that eye shield. I mean, hockey players
in the nineteen sixties and into the seventies didn't have
to wear even a helmet, never mind to shield. And
there were there were hockey players, a couple of hockey

(31:22):
players who actually had very serious eye injuries from from
an impact of a puck. Why why a pickleball players
not wearing I'm sure some are, but why is that
not just part of what you have to wear to
utilize if you're going to play the game.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
You know, there's a few reasons that. First off, there's
a lot of resistance to eye protection, you know, in general,
whether that's within sports, within you know, in the workforce.
You know, people find eye protection to be cumbersome, but
it's incredibly important and you know, Unfortunately, there's no guidelines,
you know, mandating eye protection for pickleball players. But I

(32:04):
think once people realize that there is a risk and
you know, while pickleball is fun, it's not worth the
expense of their vision, I think more people will slowly
learn to adapt it. But you know, this is a
recreational game, and so I just think a lot of
people have a lot of resistance to it.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah, it doesn't make sense because the people who are
playing this game, particularly the older crowd, they should know
from experience that people in the circle of friends have
suffered eye injuries over the years. And obviously as you
get older, you got to be thinking about potential cataract surgeries.
You got to think about macula degeneration, you got to

(32:43):
think about coma. You got to make sure that you
that you visit, you know, an optometrists or ophthalmologist on
an annual basis. There's so much stuff that we do
on this show about the various forms of you know,
cancers and diseases, but very really do we talk to
someone like yourself who's an optalmologist about you know, eye

(33:08):
care and our vision is such a precious gift in
my in my opinion.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
Oh absolutely, I think you're completely right, And you know,
the truth of the matter is is that you know,
a large study was just published in gem Ophthalmology, and
what it showed is that the patients that are obtaining
these eye injuries are the older population, you know, tends
to be the patients over age fifty, and a lot
of those patients have already had cataract surgery. And when

(33:39):
you're talking about an eye that's already had wounds created,
it's even more susceptible to injury. So if you you know,
put trauma into an eye like that, there's weak areas
that are more likely to rupture, causing more severe damage.
But you know, hopefully we can spread the word and
people will start to think eye protection is not such

(34:00):
a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
For many years, I'm sure you remember doctor Brad Shingleton
and I used to have doctor Shingleton on as a
guest and talk about a couple of times a year
about what people should be thinking about. Again, I remember
when I had a detached retina. I was terrified because
I thought to myself and it was it was within

(34:22):
one millimeter of my my macular and I remember the
doctor took it very very seriously, and I was able
to kind of self diagnose. I caught a couple of
those light flashes walking into a dark room, which caused
me to, uh to to think about what could that be?

(34:42):
And I kind of figured it out and got to
a great surgeon at the time, doctor Don Pruitt at
Mass General. But I can remember being terrified that if
I lost vision in one eye, you know, and then
you only have one eye left, and if you lose
it in the second, you don't have the vision at all.
So to all the pickleball players, take the advice of

(35:05):
doctor Marissa Tiger at Tufts Medical Center.

Speaker 6 (35:09):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
And those those those plastic you know, glasses goggles. They
may not be the sexiest thing to be aware out
of the other court, but boy, if you ever take
something directly in the eye, it'll save you. Thank you
so much for joining us. Is there any study you
just did a study on this, I believe, on this

(35:29):
very topic, so you're particularly qualified. Can how can folks
find the study if they'd like to read about it?

Speaker 5 (35:36):
So, actually, the major study that came out in jim
Opsomologia I wasn't involved in, but I wrote an article
for I neet over a year ago because more of
these case reports were coming out and I was treating
patients with you know, ie injuries from pickleball. I myself
am a retina specialist, and so have had patients come
in with retinal tears from you know, the direct trauma,

(35:59):
and you know those can lead to retinal detachments. So
it's important to protect yourself. But it's you know, it's
also important to come see an alphamologist if you develop
symptoms because the earlier you come in, the better.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Okay. And then last thing is your article? Is that
readily available or is it an a It is professional drug.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
Yes, you can find it on ao's website. I ED
is their magazine and so that's readily available and talks
about the different types of injuries that can happen and
the kind of protective eye where you should be looking for.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Give me the name of the magazine one more time.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
It's available on the American Academy of Ophthalmology website AO
dot com.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Okay, gotcha, Okay, I didn't realize that was Okay, the
American Academy of Optimology dot com. Thank you very much,
doctor Tiger. I really do appreciate your time tonight. Thank you. Absolutely,
we're talking again when we get back right after nine
o'clock news we would be talking again with Scott Brown.

(36:59):
He is one of the two former United States Senators,
John Sununum being the other, who are running for the
Republican nomination in twenty twenty six. I can tell you
that I did some research on this today. This has
never happened before that I was able to find. This
is an extraordinary run when you have two former senators,

(37:21):
neither of whom are occupy the seat, running for the nomination.
Back with Scott Brown here on nightside, and your phone
calls are welcome right after this newsbreak at nine o'clock
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