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November 4, 2025 38 mins
We kicked off the program with four news stories and different guests on the stories we think you need to know about!

Ride the 2026 Pan Mass Challenge Winter Cycle! It will take place on January 31, 2026, at Fenway Park!
Guest: Katie Iwanowicz - Marketing & Sponsorship Coordinator for the Pan-Mass Challenge


CAN I SAY THAT? Why Free Speech Matters and How to Use It Fearlessly.
Guest: Dr. Chloe Carmichael (call her Dr. Chloe they said) - clinical psychologist and USA Today bestselling author


November is Carbon Monoxide Awareness Month – What you need to know including generator safety, especially in New England where many people have a generator if a storm knocks the power out.
Guest: Guillermo Rodriguez - Portable Generator Manufacturers’ Association (PGMA) Marketing Committee Chair, Spokesperson  


T.J. Miller and his Gentle Giant Comedy Tour – Will Be Coming to The Brook in Seabrook, NH – Nov. 7th & The Wilbur Theatre in Boston – Nov. 8th!
Guest: T.J. Miller – Comedian, Actor

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nice size with Dan, I'm going easy Boston's News Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well, welcome in everybody. It's a big night here across well,
not across the United States, says, there are elections across
the country. It's not a presidential election, it's not a
mid term election, but it's the first indication that we
might have one year or nearly one year into the
Trump second administration as to how well the president and

(00:31):
this presidency is doing. We will get to all of
that a little bit later on tonight, but we have
lots to cover as the count the votes are tallied up,
and will of course be following the New York City
mayor's race, as well as the two big gubernatorial races,
one in New Jersey and one in Virginia, two really
interesting states, by the way, we'll talk about that later on.

(00:53):
Very similar size, maybe not in acreage because Virginia is
a lot bigger than New Jersey, but population and results
very close the study that I've done during the last
couple of days on these two races. But we'll put
that aside for a moment, because first of all, let
me welcome you all in. My name's Dan Ray. We've

(01:13):
got a great show for you tonight. I'm the host
of night Side with Dan Ray. Rob Brooks is back
again tonight. I think he's sticking around for a little while.
He had a vacation week last week, but he is
back and ready to go. I'm ready to go. As
our our first four guests in the eight o'clock hour,
no phone calls. In the eight o'clock hour, we introduce
you to four people different topics. Sometimes there's a theme,

(01:34):
sometimes there isn't. Tonight, I don't think they were really
a theme, but there are four different topics that I
think will be of some interest to you, that is
for sure. Then we will be talking at nine o'clock
with a psychiatrist from Touf's Medical Center about what is
known as the seasonal effective disorder. It's also referred to

(01:57):
as seasonal depression and the acronym seasonal effective disorder. Appropriately
and enough is sad sad. We'll get to all of that.
We had this psychiatrist on a week ago, doctor Vashar
radhak Rishnun. She was a really good eight o'clock guest,
and I think she's going to be a great guest

(02:18):
during the nine o'clock hour and then later on tonight,
we of course a look at the Boston City Council races.
We'll look at Prop fifty out in California. We'll look
at the governess races in New Jersey, the aforementioned governess
races in New Jersey and Virginia, as well as the
New York City Mayor's race. So there's a lot going
on tonight. Polease stick with us. We will keep you
informed and entertained all the way up till midnight. First off,

(02:39):
we want to talk about kind of what I like
to call the semi annual Pan Mass Challenge event. Everybody
knows about the Pan Mass Challenge statewide bike ride in
the summer that raises so much money. Well, they now
have added to the Pan Mass Challenge the Pan Mass
Challenge Winter Cycle, which takes place on January thirty first

(03:03):
at Fenway Park. With us is Katie one of which
she's the marketing and sponsorship coordinator for the Pin Mass Challenge. Katie,
how long have you been you folks been doing the
winter cycle aspect of this event?

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Hi, Dan, So this will be our eleventh year of
the PMC Winter Cycle. There have been a few versions
of it. We started off at everybody fights. We were
at different locations throughout Frienway Park, but this year we'll
be back in the bad twenty one overlook at Frienway Park,
talking in space with about two hundred spin bikes as
riders commit to forty five minute sessions to ride in

(03:38):
fundraise for Data Barber Cancer Institute and make an impact
in the finance cancer.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
So two hundred bikes inside, good time. Good thing to
be inside in January, that's for sure, great exercise. How
many participants do you hope to get? What time of
day does it run? I assume it starts early in
the morning and goes well into the evening.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
It does.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, So our first session, we're offering six sessions throughout
the day, each of them forty five minutes. The first
one will be at eight o'clock in the morning and
then they'll continue on until the last edge is at
two fifteen pm. And over these past couple of years
we've offered an option for people who want to take
it the extra mile. We call them our extreme riders,
and those are riders who have committed to riding in

(04:23):
front raising for each of the sixth sessions, so they'll
be on the bike all day long. We have about
twenty twenty five already registered.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
On the bike all day long. Well again during the summertime,
I guess. But at these spin sessions, I assume you
are supposed to really hit it or can you pace yourself.
I've never done a spin bike ride, so help me
out there.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
So that's the great thing about the PMC Wintercycle. We
really wait to say that it's for all fitness abilities.
Anyone who you know can sit on a bike and
gear for forty five five minutes of making an impact
in the fight against Answer. Were a fundraising organization first,
so if you're willing to register to ride, you can
push yourself as hard or just cruise along as easy

(05:11):
as you want. It's really open to everyone.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Okay, is there a minimum as to how much each
rider is supposed to raise each session? I hate to
ask these sorts of questions.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
But oh, I know.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Of course we're happy to answer. There's a five hundred
dollars fund raising minimum for each session and a fifty
dollars registration fee. We have a pace setter level of
fund raising that's at fifteen hundred dollars, and our pace
setters are recognized with an inclusive gift that they'll get
after the end of the fundraising, once the fund raising

(05:45):
deadline hits. So we have lots of tiers to be
able to participate. You can do, like I said, one
session up to all six. You can combine. It's really
it's kind of like the Summer PMC where you can
kind of make it what you want it to be.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
So all in. What did you raise last year during
the Winter Cycle Challenge?

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, last year we raised I believe it was seven
hundred and fifty thousand dollars. And so for the people
who don't know, the PMC Winter Cycle is what we
like to call one of the spokes in the wheel
of the Panmas Challenge. So part of our annual fund
raising campaign, which includes the Summer PMC, PMT Winter Cycle,
PMC on Paved, which is our gravel ride that we

(06:30):
host in the Berkshires, and our PMC Kids Rids program.
All of that fund raising goes to our annual gift,
the one check that goes to Dana Farber in November,
which actually this past Sunday, we just announced a record
seventy eight million dollar gifts to Dana Farber as part
of our twenty twenty five fund raising.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
So I assume that the vast majority of that money
is raised in the big summer event that takes up
a couple of days and lots of mileage. When you
have how many people participated in the summer event in
the summer this past summer.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yeah, so this year we had six thousand riders and
thirty five hundred volunteers committed to the Summer PMC and you.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Raised in that two day event alone. How much.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
That was? That's a good question. With all of our
different spooks in the wheel the Summer ride, it all
came together as that seventy eight million dollar gifts. But
I believe this Summer PMC raised about seventy five million,
ninety six percent of the or so of the the

(07:43):
Summer ride.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Look, I assume that would be the case. And I
just wanted to point out that this is a This
is almost like an intimate event when you think about it,
You really, when you're there, you'll get to know the
other people who were there. How did people sign up?
Have you filled this event already or can do you
still have some spots that people can can participate?

Speaker 3 (08:08):
We do register. People can go online to register at
wintercycle dot org. But make sure that you register as
soon as you can if you're interested. We're already fifty
percent full. General registration opened about two weeks ago, so.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
You probably, and I just say probably or likely, you
may be filled up by Thanksgiving if if you continue that.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Pace, oh that would be great.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeh No, but I mean if you got can send
in the spots full. Well, now do people go on
and do they check off? Oh I want to run,
you know, I want to get a spot at eight
o'clock or are these assigned spots on times?

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, so they can select which session that they'd like
to ride in. We don't assign them for them. We
like to make it as like I said, kind of
build your own experience as you can. So yeah, we
have that first session starting at eight am, and all
of our sessions are led by Boston area instructors, So
we have instructors from everybody, fights, ripped, indoor cycling, the handlebar, Lifetime, Bespoke,

(09:14):
and soul Cycle.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Last question, is it all in one big room? Are
you in a bunch of different rooms at Fenway?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
It is one big room. You're looking right out over
center field. We get an appearance from Wally throughout the day.
It's really it's a wonderful time.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Well, this is such a great event. It's great cause
it certainly is the Red Sox big charity going back
to the late nineteen forties. Again, give us the website
one more time in case people didn't have a chance
to scribble it down earlier.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, happy too, it's wintercycle dot Org.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Sounds great, Katie. I appreciate your time, and we love
everybody associated with the pin Mass Challenge. My great friend
Lisa Hughes has been a at the point of the
spear in this program for a long time and she
talks about it whenever I see her. It's just it's
an amazing fundraiser and it's a credit not only to

(10:10):
obviously everybody involved, including the founder Billy Starr, but the
Red Sox and the entire community in Massachusetts is so
so much behind the pan Mass Challenge.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, it's really special. Of every rider raised dollar, we'll
go to Dana barbera cancer institute, which being in Boxton
is just a miler two up the road from Dana
Barber on Brookline, Apps, So it's really really close to home,
and we're riding in with Cycle sounds great, Katie, Thank
you so much for your time, and we'll we wish
you all the best, and we wish you even even

(10:44):
though it's indoors.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I want it to be a beautiful winter's day so
you can look out. Maybe a little bit of snow
drifting down, but nothing more than that. We want to
get everybody there and get everybody involved.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Thanks so much, Thank you appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
You're welcome when we get back, going to talk about
simply why free speed matters and how to use it fearlessly.
I'm looking forward to this, doctor Chloe Carmichael. We'll be
joining We'll join us right after a couple of messages
here on Nightside. And it is a Tuesday night, windy,
cold day in Boston. You have a we're almost getting

(11:17):
the winter. That's the way I felt today. Back on
nights Side after this.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Boston's news radio.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
All right, welcome back everybody, as we continue along here
on Nightside, I am delighted to introduce to you, doctor
Chloe Carmichael. We're going to talk about why free speech matters.
I think all of you know that as a talk
show host and as a lawyer very much an advocate
of free speech, as doctor Chloe Martin seems to be

(11:48):
as well. She is a clinical psychologist and a US
Today USA Today best selling author. I guess I'll just
ask you the question, doctor Carmichael, why does free speech
matter in America? And how can we use it fearlessly?

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Thanks?

Speaker 6 (12:05):
Dan, it's great to be with you. So, as a
clinical psychologist, free speech matters because speaking is how we
develop our thoughts. It's how we have true, authentic social
connections with people. It's how we do emotional regulation. It's
even how we actually get down to the truth of

(12:27):
things together by debate and discussion. So as a clinical psychologist,
I really cannot say enough about the mental health benefits
of free speech.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Well, your book is entitled can I say that question mark?
Why free speech matters and how to use it fearlessly?
Doctor Carmichael. There was a period a few years ago
and it's still going on today where certain points of view,
particularly I'm going to say it honestly conservative points of

(12:57):
view were looked down upon, and if you didn't use
the proper terminology in many, many different aspects, you could
be exiled from your family or exiled from your group
of friends. Do you understand what I'm talking about when
I say.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
That, Oh?

Speaker 6 (13:18):
Absolutely, And you know, I think you're right. It's an
interesting thing that it did turn out to be kind
of politically coded right now at least. But you know,
just to be fair, it has not always been that way.
There's been times in the past, in the eighties, I think,
really where the conservatives wanted to censor rap music lyrics.

(13:39):
But right now, you are absolutely right. In my book,
I call it the five d's. So people who identify
as liberal are statistically more likely to disinvite a speaker,
decline to date, drop contact in real life, distance in
real life, or to defriend on Facebook. That's the five d's.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I can tell examples of those people.

Speaker 6 (14:05):
Yes, and people who identify as liberal are likely more
likely than conservatives to do all of the five d's
over political differences. So, Dan, you were right on the
money there that it is for whatever reason, political cancel
culture tends to run more from left to right.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Which normally normally the tradition in this country, at least
the condition the tradition that I have been familiar with
is liberals, with a lot of people who were kind
of more open minded and they were willing to debate
and have a conversation. But a lot of that has
changed within the liberal wing of this country. As you

(14:49):
just mentioned. Now there are what I call wack of
doodles on both extremes. As a talk show host, believe me,
I deal with people who are irrational and unreasonable on
both extremes. You can't even have a conversation with them, okay,
And I have gotten to know many of them. And

(15:11):
there are people who just don't understand the gift that
we have with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights,
and specifically the First Amendment. First Amendment doesn't exist in
a lot of countries and in other countries around the world.
In England, the encroachment on free thought and free expression
of ideas is even worse than it is in this country.

(15:34):
And we think of England sort of as our cousin
across the pond. They're very different on the whole issue
of free thought and free speech. And it all comes
back to political correctness as it is perceived by those
in power. And the problem is that those in power
can switch and you can have a different set of

(15:54):
political correct handcuffs put on you yourself? Which is which
is crazy? You know, free speech is free speech and
it should be it should be welcomed and embraced by
all of us. Why is it that there are some
on both sides of the spectrum, both sides, Maybe more
on the liberals side right now, maybe more in the

(16:16):
conservatives in the past, But who is so I guess
afraid of supporting and defending their own points of views,
points of view that they don't want to engage in
open minded, polite civil conversations and disagree, agree to be,
agree to disagree reasonably.

Speaker 6 (16:37):
Yeah. So that's a great question, Dan, And that.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
It was too long a question, by the way, you're
the guest. I apologize for the length of it.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
No, I get it, I get it. It feels good
to talk about this stuff, right Dan, I get it. Yeah.
So that's that's why I wrote the book. Can I
say that you know why free speech matters and how
to use it fearlessly? So you know, there's actually a
whole chapter in there to your point about common objections
to free speech, and one of them is, you know,

(17:05):
what about hate speech and bullying? You know, don't we
just need to be kind to each other and if
we just make you know, mean words illegal and everything's
politically correct, and won't our society be kinder? And as
a clinical psychologist, I have to say I understand where
they're coming from, but it always backfires because when we

(17:25):
cannot resolve problems directly and you know, just have an
argument and just disagree, that's when we go into repression, suppression, denial.
You know, we start kind of acting out our feelings.
And interestingly, the same people that will disinvite and defriend
do all the five d's over political differences, they, by

(17:48):
their own self report, are also more likely to commit
acts of violence and to endorse acts of political violence.
And as a psychologist, I think that's connected because when
we don't use our words, even when we think it's like, oh,
I'm just being virtuous, I just won't talk to anyone
that has those opinions. I don't like they might think

(18:10):
that they're being virtuous, but what they're actually doing is
setting the table for violence. Because even a mom of
toddlers will tell you that when you have a conflict,
the first thing you want people to do is to
use their words, not to shut down speech, because labeling
it all hates speech and bullying actually just stamps out dialogue,

(18:33):
which is actually what we want.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, I mean I can remember with my own children
whenever we were having a conversation and if they got frustrated,
I'd always say, just use your big words. You know. Now,
the big words are different at the age of three
than they are at the age of thirteen, and they
are at the age of twenty three. But someone once said,
when the conversation stops, that's when the violence begins. And

(18:58):
I truly do believe that that when you get to
the point where you're so frustrated, there are some people
who you can't change their mind, and you need to
recognize that and say, okay, we will never agree, but
we can still be friends over what baseball or football
team we root for. We can find some area of commonality,

(19:18):
even if it isn't social mores and politics. But people
don't want to do that, and that's what that's where
countries end up in places like with civil wars. So
what you do is extremely important. Doctor Caronmichael, I'd like
to have you do somenight. I really would like to
have you back somenight and have this conversation and allow

(19:43):
people to call in and maybe try to present to
you questions and comments. We only do brief interviews in
this eight o'clock hour, but then I go on and
we do a nine or ten and eleven every night,
four hours a night in which we have guests for
in our long blocks to have you back. Particularly when
did the book come out? By the way, is it

(20:03):
just out?

Speaker 6 (20:05):
Thank you? And yes, of course I'd love to join
you anytime. And today is actually launch day, so people
can go to free Speech Today dot com. And there's
lots of places that's wherever books are sold, but at
free Speech today dot com they can just you know,
get all the easy links.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Now, free speech today dot com is your website.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
Right, yeah, it's it's a special page I made just
for the book. So if people want to you know,
follow my social handles or if they can't remember, oh
the book is.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Like can I say that? Why free?

Speaker 6 (20:36):
And how to use it fearlessly? It's kind of a mouthful,
So they can just go to free Speech today dot
com and that makes it really easy. And I am
even having a private reader, you know, online group for
people that want to talk about this more so if
they go to free speech Today dot com and get
the book then, you know, send me a screenshot so
I can invite you to the group.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Sounds great, sounds great. I may do that myself, Doctor Chloe.
I love Michael, Clinical psychologist, USA USA Today, bestselling author
free Speech Today dot com, Free Speech Today dot com.
Get you there, and the book is Can I say
that why free speech matters and how to use it fearlessly?
Doctor Carmichael. We will have you back. I'm looking forward

(21:17):
to it. Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Thanks Dan, pleasure. When we get back. Right after the news,
we're going to be talking with comedian TJ. Miller. His
Gentle Giant Comedy Tour coming back to the Brook in Seabrook,
New Hampshire on November seventh later on this week, and
the Wilberth Theater in Boston on November eighth. Today is
the fourth, so we're talking Friday and Saturday. Get your tickets.

(21:42):
We'll talk to TJ. Miller right after the break.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WZ Boston's
news Radio.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Well, yeah, I just mixing our lineup a little bit.
So we're going to talk about November being Carbon Monoxide
Awareness Month. And what you need to know, including generator safety,
especially here in New England where many people have a
generator if a storm knocks out the power with us
as Gimero gill Yermo Rodriguez, he's a with the Portable
Generator Manufacturing Manufacturers Association. He's on the marketing committee. He's

(22:15):
the chair of the marketing committee's a spokesperson. So I'm
very familiar with generators. I don't do much with them.
I pay people to keep my generator working. How reliable
are generators both in terms of coming on when the
power goes out and also not coming on at an

(22:38):
inappropriate time and causing problems within the home? I believe
the generators are pretty safe at this point and their
their development. Am I correct on that?

Speaker 5 (22:47):
Guildermod I'm very happy to be here and help the
Boston community stay safe and learn how to safeguard households
against the dangerous of carbon monoxide poisoning.

Speaker 7 (23:02):
Your question about how reliable generators are if used properly,
They're very reliable. It is very important to always keep
very good distance between a generator and any type of dwelling,
so agencies like the US Consumer Product Safety Commission or

(23:26):
the CDC advise a minimum of twenty feet from anywhere
that carbon monoxi animations can enter.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
So okay, so twenty feet from any portion of the house.
If you have a generator and it's in a backyard,
you need to keep it twenty feet away from the structure.

Speaker 7 (23:53):
That is correct, according to US Consumer Product Safety Commissioner.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Okay, Now, should the general ever be in an open
in a closed in area at all, even if the
let us say, the shed or the building is twenty
feet away. My understanding is that they need to always
be exposed to the elements. Am I right along on.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
That Dan, You are correct.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
A generator can never be somewhere where carbon monoxide emissions
can accumulate, and that includes a shed.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Now have generators become better more reliable in recent years
or have they always been pretty safe when handled properly.

Speaker 7 (24:50):
So recently, there have been a number of key safety
features added to generate, mainly the addition of carbon monoxide sensors,
which basically shut off the generator if dangerous levels of

(25:12):
carbon monoxide are detected. Now, this is important to understand
that a generator should never be with the exhaust pointing
to any sort of home or dwelling. But you are
right that generators have more safety features, mainly the CEO

(25:34):
shot off sensor. So generators that comply with the ANTIPGMA
G three hundred standard are equipped with this shot off technology.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
What percentage of family homes, if such statistics exist, now
have generators? And is the number of people who because
look with weather outages, tornadoes, we have blizzards here in
the world at your time, when trees come down, wires
come down, it is not uncommon for us to lose
power in New England. Our problem is not hurricanes or

(26:08):
tornadoes for the most part. Our problem really tends to
be blizzards in the wintertime. Is there are there any
studies kept as to what percentage of American homes now
have generators compared to ten or twenty or thirty years ago.

Speaker 7 (26:23):
So then there's two types of generators, right, there's portable
generators and there's stand by generators. I don't have a
statistic that I can share with you on your public
but generators, of course have become very common to safeguard

(26:44):
when powers out, so sometimes.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
They're even set up with a.

Speaker 7 (26:50):
Automatic transfer switch manual transfer switch. Talking about the stand
by generators. One thing that is critical is to always
have carbon monoxide alarms in us every room, every floor
of the home. They're your first line of defense.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Are there also at this point companies that can come
out and check your generator to make sure that it
is functioning properly or that it is not to put
the out to make it a negative, not functioning in
an improper manner. Or do you just have to rely
upon the generator once it's installed in the carbon monoxide detectors.

(27:40):
I know that that's important, but it would be great
if once a year there would be people who would
come out and do an inspection and say, hey, this
generator is still running clean and you don't have anything
to worry about. Keep the batteries or whatever in the
carbon monoxide detectors.

Speaker 7 (27:58):
The main thing here is to always read the operator's manuals,
the instructions that came with the unit very important. To
follow all the instructions for maintenance and troubleshooting, and eventually
following all the manufacturer's recommendations.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
All right, well, Guilielmo, I really appreciate you. You chatting
with people. I think you're making people think, and particularly
as we begin to head into winter here in New England. Again,
the most important thing is to make sure that those
carbon monoxide detectors, if they're battery operated, the batteries are working,

(28:40):
and if they're wired in, make sure that they are
working as well, because as you said, that is the
first and the best line of defense. Guiliemel, thank you
very much for joining us tonight this on this what
is now carbon Monoxide Awareness Month, perfectly timed. Thank you,
my friend.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Then, thanks so much. We'll talk again when we get back.
We will be talking with the aforementioned TJ. Miller, comedian
actor who's going to be here in the New England area,
in New Hampshire and here in Boston later this week,
back on Nightside with TJ Miller right after this.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Night Side with Dan Ray on w BZ, Boston's news radio.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
All right, we are back and we are delighted to
have back with us comedian actor TJ. Miller. TJ. You
are on the Gentle Giant Comedy tour. We talked with you,
I believe at one point this summer. How's life been
treating you since we last chatted.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
I mean, it's great to be on with you again.
I'm night radio, so different for morning radio. I primarily
do morning radio, and that's a'll w BZ in the morning.
Wha ha. Yeah, I'm not a crazy one, okay, right,
the collar college hall. It makes some sort of far
annoy that's kind of what that is. It's much nicer
to be on your program. I appreciate. I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
How much touring you're doing every year?

Speaker 5 (30:01):
Now?

Speaker 2 (30:01):
How many how many dates a year are you out
in the road, what percentage of the days are you
out in the road.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
And it's interesting I used to do. Well, interesting to
me I used.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
To do.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
I would say forty eight you know, weeks out of
the year, so I would really only skip like Christmas
and I guess Thanksgiving type of saying. And then as
you sort of grows comedian, there're just weekends sort of
weeks in the summer where it's just not a good

(30:33):
idea to stand up because you're going into a market
and people don't going in Wisconsin wants to comes to
be a comedy show in the summer. Yeah, that doesn't
make any sense because they want to be outside. This
is the very small amount of sunshine and nice wather
they get every year. Yeah, so you kind of slow
down and do less. But I have found that I

(30:54):
like and I want to grow so much, and I
feel that i've really I acted for a long time
and wasn't able to do stand up during that time.
So I still really want to get better as a
stand up comic, and so I've done more and more
weeks this year. But i'd say, you know, maybe you
know we're now forty five weeks out of the year

(31:16):
of fifty two. Yeah, I'm ture. I love it. There's
something about it that I don't like.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, well, you know, it's funny. There was someone who
I think wrote an article and it's sort of become
the accepted that you've got to do something for ten
thousand hours before you get really good and really comfortable
at it. And the more I thought about that, I
started to understand that theory. Now, do you feel as
time goes on, the butterflies disappear, you know, as you

(31:47):
you know, ten minutes five minutes from showtime, or do
you feel that the butterflies are still there every night?
And if they're not there, then there's something missing in
the Adrenaline hasn't gotten to the point where it needs
to get to for you to be best on stage.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
I think I never really got anxious or nervous. Yeah,
before shows. I always kind of want the shows to
go well, But I don't get sort of stage fright
in the way that other people do or whatever. Butterflies,
But I do think to that. I'll ask you that question.
So do you think that it took about ten years
in radio before you were able to say I'm a

(32:24):
master of my craft.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
I'm not sure I could say that now, but I worked.
I worked as an on air TV reporter here in
Boston at the CBS affiliate for thirty one years. I
spent my youth as a television on air reporter. It's
only even the last nineteen years that have been doing
the talk show. I'm starting to get the hang of
the talk show.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
At this I did good to apart from the South
Tempricading irony, which I enjoy. Trust me, I'm a comedian.
I do want to know, after about ten years of
doing radio, did you say I think I've mastered this
and now what do I want to do with it?

Speaker 7 (33:00):
Not?

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Really, I gotta be honest with you. Every day I
prep because every show has to be different. For me.
You know, I think about when Wayne Wayne Newton, who's
been doing shows in Hollywood for about seventy nine years. Uh,
and kind of stays the same because he goes out
and he sings the songs that he's good at. Yeah,

(33:21):
you gotta, absolutely and I I gotta. I have to
do different topics, different subjects, deal with different issues, different
people every night.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
And my audience changes. Well, of course your audience changes,
your your your studio, your audience wherever your your appearing
changes every night too. But but you gotta, you got
to bring it. And I played a lot of sports
in high school and college, and you always have a
little butterflies until the first pitch is Yeah, that's my feeling.

(33:53):
I got one question for you, which only you can answer,
and that is how do you develop your sets? You're
you know what you're going to say. I mean I
I did some stuff, believe it or not, many years
ago with Bill Cosby and he was a master. Oh
he rid in us some issues, don't get me wrong,
but he's incredible.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
He's one of the great leg Well, he.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Just would kind of link and it was all in
his head. There was nothing that every show was different
and one story would lead to the next. Do you
go out there and say, look, I'm I got to
get from A to Z and I got to go
as no.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
No, no, no, no, no, it's I'm and this it's called the
crowd sorcer to it. I don't really do crowd work,
but I kind of sourced all of the performances from
where I am, what happened to me that day, who's
in the crowd, what they're looking like, all that stuff. Yeah,
And I started as an improviser in Chicago, and uh,
I think I was an improviser Santa promic, you know,

(34:53):
a student of acting and voiceover. And then also I
worked in radio shack, but improvisation was the biggest thing.
And that's this way I always say, I have great
respect for radio. I think it's so brilliant. I have
contemporaries who won't do radio. I don't understand that I
have such respect for it because you are I. I

(35:15):
will go and improvise an hours d the standup comedy.
That's true. There's only about fifteen people that can do
that that are working today. But I feel like you
do that like Monday through Friday, and it's a it's
a longer segment of bean problems that yes you have.
We're in touch on this topic. This is it. But
in any moment, you would get a call or something happens,
or you think of if it's totally off the cup.

(35:37):
It's completely rare.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
But but the both, just like you, the stuff that
I'm most comfortable with when I'm talking on my own experiences. Okay,
like Jude, that's ye, that's that's the key, That is
the key to it. Look, let's plug here just for
a few seconds. You're going to be up at the
Brook and Secret, New Hampshire this Friday night, right.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
In front of Fun. It's Friday night and I run
that place. It's hilarious. There's a haunted dog traft on back.
You've got to come and see it. I had a
lot of fun. I improvised an entire set when I
was there last year, just making fun of the casino,
and they loved it so much to invited me back.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Now, how about that?

Speaker 4 (36:17):
And then the wilbur have the great theaters in the
world on Saturdays.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah it is. It's a wonderful venue. And I know
you'll you'll knock them dead and uh and and people
need to contact the Brook and Seabrook in the Wilburine,
Boston to get their tickets for Friday night and Saturday night.
TJ always enjoy talking with you. You're You're a wonderful guy
to chat with. And you I think that's that's your strength.

(36:43):
I mean you you you're you're with What you see
is what you get and uh, I think that's that's
the authenticity in any business is so important. You're one
authentic guy, and you're an authentic comedian. And not that
you need my.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Uh right now, but I you what I was just
going to say was I was going to ask you.
I didn't want to finish the interview until I asked you.
You know, you're sort of investigative, both with just people
of psychology and all. Do you feel that you are
more comfortable asking questions?

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (37:13):
Yeah, answering them. I had to ask you.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
That asking because I'm a curious person.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
If I'd ever sat next to you on an airplane,
you know, there was an hour up in the air,
I would know what. I figure out some mutual friends
we have, I figure out some mutual interests we have.
I am inherently curious that's my only my only ability curiosity.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
Oh, it's so amazing. Yeah, we have a friend who
we describe as curious. That's one of it. And it's
such a great adjective, such a great trade. Well thanks.
I had to ask that because I sometimes feel like
I bore myself talking about me. So I like interviewing
people I like. So I just wanted to ask that
because you're so good at that, You're PJ.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Thank you very much. I have an Albert Einstein. Einstein said,
I have no special talent. I'm only passionately curious.

Speaker 7 (38:03):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
DJ, have a ball here in New England and we'll
catch you next.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Thank you again.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Thank okay, but sure, well, thank you very much. Went
a little long because I enjoyed TJ so much. We're
in the nine o'clock the here comes the news. We'll
be back and we're going to talk about seasonal effective disorder.
Very interesting topic.
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