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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nice eyes with Dan Ray. I'm going easy fucked in.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
News Radio Yick's thirty one to twenty against the lowly Wizards.
That is not a good start for a beloved Boston Celtics.
My name is Dan Ray, and we start off with
a little discouraging sport News where we have lots of
great information this hour, and we have a very interesting
program nine ten and eleven tonight, going to analyze the
Democratic victories and the Republican losses yesterday. As I said
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last night, the Republicans really really took a whooping and
they they got to figure out what's going on. The
Democrats have to figure out how to bottle whatever worked
for them last night in Virginia, in New Jersey, and
in New York City. So we'll get to all of that.
I'll also talk about here in Boston, Boston everything state
status quo. We spent a lot of money on a
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bunch of races and nothing changed whatsoever. So everybody in
Boston must be very happy with the political atmosphere here,
and we will get to that. Beginning at nine o'clock.
We have four guests tonight. We're going to talk about
Massachusetts being the best place to start a family. We're
going to talk about a book called The Invincible Brain.
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That is not a book about me, by the way.
Let me make myself very clear on that one. We're
also we have a book about success is not a
numbers game in a book with Anthony Moray. He's the
head of security in Boston, as I'm sure all of
you know, has been the head of security at the
Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum now for several years, and he's
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written a book called The Rembrandt Heist, which is a
fascinating book. We'll get to that at eight forty five,
but let me start off tonight with Kelly David. Kelly David,
welcome Tonight's I thanks very much for joining us and
starting us off this evening. You're the client director of
a group called Ivy Surrogacy company that conducted this survey.
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When was this survey conducted? And it says Massachusetts the
best place to start a family. We do all sorts
of stories here every night on Nightside where things are
expensive in Massachusetts. Nobody can get an apartment in Boston
and account buy houses. We're talking about the same Massachusetts here. Kelly,
welcome to nightside.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
How are you say, I'm well, thank you, thank you
for having me. And yes, we are talking about the
same Massachusetts here. Even though Massachusetts does rank number one
in regards to cost of living for affordability of housing,
it is also rated number one in regards to you know,
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healthcare And this was taken from the Census Bureau for
the percentage of uninsured children under the age of nineteen
and pediatrician employment, which is, you know, one of the
highest in the country, as well as education where they
took the average grade four to grade eight math and
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reading statistics and scores, and they're the highest in the
nation as well.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
And hold on for a second of that one, Kel.
I don't know what you're relying on there, but right
now we've had big problems since COVID. The reading and
math scores of fourth graders, eighth graders, and tenth graders
have all gone down here in Massachusetts.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, they're still higher. I'm still higher than anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Okay, so we may not be getting smarter, but no
one else is either. Also, it's not easy to find
a doctor of any type in Massachusetts. And again I'm
not here to knock Massachusetts. I just was sort of surprised.
Our weather's tough in the winter time. I don't know
if you have spent any time in Massachusetts or not,
but from late November through the end of March, you
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can have a snowstorm just about any day. Of our
sports teams have have not been doing greatly likely, I
don't know. I guess you you bullish on Massachusetts. There's uh,
there's there's Look, we have a lot of hospitals, we
have some fine academic institutions. I just think it's insue.
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What was the worst state to to start a family?
From your analysis?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Let me look that up. You know that mostly it's
all it's it's the worst states are on the West
coast some Midwest?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Is that is that because of the time difference? Holy kidding, Holy.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So basically, yeah, with the West coast not being as
good due to also affordability for cost of living.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
So which which of those three West coast states? Washington, Oregon? See,
I know my geography of California, our number fifty, who
had who it's the big five?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Oh, California, Which is funny because that's where I'm calling from.
That's where you're calling me from.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You know, no, No, I'm in Massachusetts. No, Kelly, I'm
in Massachusetts. Okay, well, let's not get confused here. I
know where I am. You know where you are. I've
been theoretically the best, you ever the worst. So what generally,
when when folks do a study of any story, any sort, uh,
and then they're on the radio with me, they have
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a reason for having done that study. Uh. And oftentimes
it's related to what the group that does the study for,
what they were involved with, what was the purpose of
the study.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Basically, I work for a surrogacy agency, and and you
know a lot of people are delaying, you know, having children,
and and you know they're having them older by.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
The way, in Massachusetts, because you can't afford it, because
there's a lot of people here who feel they are
underpaid and underappreciated. But go ahead.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, So basically, families are delaying having children, so you know,
when they they wait until they can afford to have children.
But unfortunately, sometimes when you can afford to have children,
you're faced with fertility issues.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah right, No, I'm very very familiar with that. And
I see that the name of your company is Ivy Surrogacy.
And again this is a dilemma that a lot of
people do face. And I think probably everyone in this
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audience knows some family that has gone through some of
these these difficulties. And I can I can understand, uh,
the the phrase ivy surrogacy. I'm just wondering. We have
more than a few IVY League colleges here in New England,
as I'm sure you know, Yale, Harvard, Dartmouth, Brown is ivy.
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What is the the name ivy surrogacy supposed to imply?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
If anything, Ivy is a beautiful plant that likes to populate.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Okay, and and it is it is. It's a it's
a great vine on the outfield wall at Wrigley Field
as well as I'm.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Sure you know, I did not know that if you.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Watch a Cubs game, most Cubs games, some ball gets
lost in the wall. It's an automatic round rule double
of Wrigley Field. See. I thought it might have been
an allusion to IVY League colleges or or whatever or whatever.
So I just, you know, it was was curious. How
long has you a company been in business been helping
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I should say not in business helping people achieve their
dream of having a child.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
We've been around since June of twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
So yeah, so you were if you arrived in June
or twenty you began in June and twenty nineteen. Shortly
thereafter we had obviously COVID strike the country and devastated
this country for about a year. So that's a tough
time to have started a business. But you've survived, and
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I hope you're doing well.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
We're doing amazing and we have had thirty seven berths
this year so far. Last year we helped with fifty
deliveries and fifty three children.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Fifty three children, so you had a couple of twins
in there. I guess maybe a.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Couple of sets of twins.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yes, we had. And not only am I good in geography,
but I'm really good in math. Kelly, thank you so much,
you know, for your time tonight. I think it's interesting
Where could folks find you if they might be in
need of talking with you? And where could they find
this survey that you folks have have developed.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
It's actually on our website. It's an article and it
is at www dot I v Y s U r
r O g a c y dot com. And we
are happy to answer anybody's questions or direct them to
the right resources to help them start or continue building
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their family.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Sounds great. And by the way, just one hint, I
always give to everybody that www thing. You don't need
that anymore, you could just give me ivysurrogacy dot com.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Well, we'd like to have you. This is a serious subject.
Look at me. You know you know that, okay, And
it's really an incredibly serious subject for families who find
themselves struggling to have a family or to grow their family.
But I also in this hour, i'd like to have
fun with people who I think have a sense of humor,
and I think you have a good sense of human
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You have a great laugh, Kelly, thanks so much for
joining us tonight at nightside.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Thank you have a great night you too.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Well we get back. We're going to talk with a
PhD in neuroscience. We're going kind of high brow tonight, folks.
He has a medical degree from Harvard Medical School. He's
an adjunct professor at the Mind Brain Institute at John
Hopkins University. He also teaches at George Washington University and
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at Harvard Medical School. It's a busy guy. We're going
to talk with doctor Majid Fhotaha about The Invincible Brain,
the clinically proven Plan to age proof your brain and
stay sharp for life. Boy, do I need that? We'll
be back on nights Side right after these messages.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Delighted to meet doctor Majid PHOTOHI doctor photo heeat, Welcome
to Nightside. How are you?
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I'm fine? Thank you very much for having me on
your show.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
You have an incredibly impressive resume. I talk with lots
of people, but this one is. You have a doctorate
in neuroscience from John Hopkins University. You have a medical
degree from Harvard Medical School in nineteen ninety seven. You
currently serve as an adjunct professor at the Mind Brain
Institute at John Hopkins University. You also teach at George
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Washington University in Harvard Medical School. The book is called
The Invincible Brain, The clinically Proven Plan to age proof
your Brain and stay sharp for life. Obviously, this is
not one you wrote over the weekend. How long did
it take you to do this book? To create this book?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yeah, this book represents my life's work. It represents thirty
years of comical research and teaching, but it took me
one year to write it.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Well, you know, you have to sort of assemble your thoughts.
That is for sure. Who would benefit from getting this
book and reading it.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
This book is intended for middle aged people who worry
about their memory. It's intended for people who forget their keys,
forget the employment, and they think they're not as sharp
as they used to be, and they start worry about
Alpheimer's disease. And I love to tell them, listen, there
are so many reasons for why you think you have
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the many problems and why your brain is flowing down,
and Alpheimer's is at the bottom of the list. And
I love to taking care of paces like that because
more than eighty percent of a patients in a twelve
week program that has created for people improve.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So this is a program that people will learn from
reading the book. That's right, Okay. This is not a
program that they have to sit and watch zoom presentations
or they don't have to go to classes. This is
something they could be done on their schedule, however their
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schedule works.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
That's correct.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
See, when people get older, there are many factors that
shrink their brain. Literally, things like stress, insomnia, apnia, this
factor chip away the brain. In fact, their cortex and
e bi campus, which are the parts of the brain
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that are important for thinking, shrink by about one percent
per year after it'ge fifty, and that's why people start
feeling like they're not as sharp as they are. That
was the bad news. But the good news is that
you can regrow your brain. And one of the most
important ways you can grow your brain is exercise. Exercise
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literally creates new neurons in the memory parts of your brain.
And there are many other things that can increase blood
flow in the brain, and they can reduce inflammation in
the brain, and they can reverse the effects of aging
in the brain. See, I think we live in one
of the most exciting eras in the field of neurology.
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For the first time, we are starting to think that
Alzheimer's is not a mysterious disease anymore. It's a soup
of problems that shrink the brain. And the good news
is that we can reverse that shrinkage. The good news
is that we can literally grow the brain and reverse
the effects of aging on the brain.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Well, this is music to my ears because I am,
as we would say, on the wrong side of fifty.
I'm in my fiftieth year as a journalist, thirty one
years in television, and now nineteen years doing this talk show.
But I'm in the gym five to six days a week,
and it is music to my ears that I'm doing
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something inadvertently which maybe is allowing my brain to, if
not shrink, maybe even grow a little bit. I gotta
buy the book. Now. Let me tell you how the
twelve week course. How much of it is it involves
reading and studying, and how much does it involve different
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sorts of activity, whether it's walking or working out in
a gym or in some form of exercise.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Yes, different people have different reasons for why to experience
shrinkaging the brain. For some people, maybe insomnia or sipapna
for other people, maybe too much stress for other people,
maybe poor diet. For other people, maybe the fact that
they don't have a challenged job. And so the book
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helps you identify the reasons for why you have cognitive decline.
And again, the combination of reasons for each person is
unique to them. But once you know that three or
four reasons that apply to you, then you can take
steps to improve your brain functions. I have what I
call five pillars of brain health, diet, exercise, sleep, stress reduction,
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and brain training. But not everybody needs to work on
all five pillars of brain health at the same time.
People usually need to work on two or three pillars
of playing health, and once they work on it, they
can see results within weeks. I often show people how
to memorize a list of twenty words, which is a
lot easier than you think, and it is they learn
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to do it, they can do it five times and
they memorize one hundred worths for in the oat words,
and that gives them excitement and energy and enthusiasm because
they realize that aging doesn't have to be downhill. You know,
you can get better with aging. It can be a
little sharper at age of sixty eight versus sixty seven.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
So let me ask you a question if I could. Obviously,
people I hope are going to get the book, and
I'm going to get this book because it's it's important
to everyone of a certain age. You see a lot
of ads on TV now dealing with this issue, and
there are different products that are sold basically pills previagen,
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and there are some other products like that as somebody
obviously who was a neuroscientist. Are those pills placebos or
do those pills actually have some benefit to people who
take those pills.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
There's no scientific evidence that provigen has any benefits for
the brain whatsoever. There's no scientific publication a placebo control
study that has shown privilege in works. None. Zero.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
And by the way, I only mentioned privileging because that's
the one that came to mind. I think there's another
like nariva and there's a there's there's a there's a shell.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Yeah, I think. I think in general it's best to
focus on healthy things like diet, exercise, and healthy the pattern.
These supplements help a little bit. My favorite supplement is
omo got tore fatty acids. I actually do the research
study myself and established that people would take Omograti fatty
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acids are less like they get alphomine disease. And that's
the only supplement I take, So I don't recommend anything
other than Omagrati fatty acids d H A and e
p a is are called Omega three fatty acids, and
that those are one thousand in the brand per day
is what I take.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
So omega three fatty acids correct, Okay, fatty acids one
thousand milligrams per day. Look, this has been very helpful.
Where I assume that your book is available in a
lot of places, including Amazon and bookstores. Do you have
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a website where people can can get your book?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yes, I have a web site Doctor for two he
dot com, d r f O t U H high
dot com. I mean actually have a pre ordered gift.
You know, people who boarded the book head of publication
get a copy of an online course that I'm developing,
as well as an app that helps people to take
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this program on their own, and another webinar that I
have for people who pre order the book. So if
you go to doctor for two dot com you will
get all those good either as well.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Sounds great, and the book is available now. You said
pre order, so I just want to make sure the
book is available now right.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Yes, it's a little for pre order, right.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Okay, thank you very much, Doctor Magde for Dewey, the
book is called The Invincible Brain that clinically prove and
plan to play in to age proof your brain and
stay sharp for life. Doctor, I really enjoyed talking with you.
Thank you for taking the time tonight, same here.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Thank you, You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Well, we come back when I talk about another goal,
and that is a success. Success is a numbers game.
The author of that book, Kyle Austin, will join us
achieving bigger goals by changing the odds. Back on Nightside
right after the news break at the bottom of the hour.
I really enjoyed that conversation. I've enjoyed all. I enjoy
all my conversation, but that was one that was good
and substantive, and I think if you listen to that,
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or even reference that for other folks, friends of you
as to listen, or you go to Nightside and demand
there was a lot of information in that interview with
that doctor. We'll be back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray, Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
All right, I may have misidentified my next guest. During
the break, We're going to be speaking with Kyle Young.
Kyle on on my page, It's say, Kyle Austin. I
have no idea where that came from.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Well, I'm Kyle Austin Young, No big deal.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Oh was that your middle name? You mean? Is that
Kyle Austin Young. Okay, great, great, okay it is.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
I'll tell you a quick story about that. When I
was in the process of trying to get this publishing deal,
there was some people struggling to find me online because
there's a lot of people named Kyle Young, a basketball player,
the director of the Country Music Hall of Fame, and
so now there's two people who call me Kyle Austin Young,
my grandmother and my publisher.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Well that's okay. Now we'll call you Kyle Austin Young too.
But you're an award winning strategy consultant, business writer, and author.
Writ it for the Harvard Business View, View, The Boston Globe, CNBC,
Psychology Today, Forbes, and Business Insider. Success is a numbers
game achieved bigger goals by changing the odds. I haven't
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read your book. I may at some point, But why
don't you explain the theory, the underlying theory, because I
have a theory about success that i'd love to share
with you. Go ahead, let me hear your thoughts on
the idea of success as a numbers game.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Well, I'm excited to hear yours, but I'll start with mine.
I believe that every goal that you're pursuing has two
hidden numbers attached to it, a probability of success and
a probability of failure. But most people never stop to
even consider that because they assume that their odds are
unknowable and unchangeable. And my goal is to teach people
a very simple understanding of probability that they can use
to more reliably accomplish their goals. I help people get
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a sense of how likely they are to accomplish a
goal in their life, whether that's getting a promotion or
running a marathon, or trying to get a book published,
trying to start a new business, and ultimately I take
people through a framework for improving those odds. If you
do that in the context of a single goal, it
can change your outcome over the course of several goals.
It can change your life.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I suspect that your theory is not inconsistent with mine,
but I have a theory that I firmly believe in,
and that is that in order to be successful, you
have to have two elements. This is a little different
than yours. One is the ability to do but you
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hope to do, and also the opportunity to show someone
you can do that ability and opportunity, meaning you can
have all the ability in the world if you're never discovered,
if you're a great singer or an actor, actress, or
a baseball player or a football player. If you have
never discovered, you don't realize your dream. If you can
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have every opportunity, but if you don't have either, just
the ability that God given ability, you'll have opportunities, but
without the ability, you won't achieve those dreams. It's a
little bit of a different analysis than yours, but one
that through my life I've found to be very true.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
I think ability and opportunity are both important. I encourage
people to look at what has to go right in
order for them to get the outcome they want. I
teach people how to create something called a success diagram,
where they list out every step that might go into
that process if you're open to it all. Give you
a quick example, yes, sir, So, let's say that you're
training to run a marathon, right, big marathon in Boston.
I was lucky enough onces to fly on a flight
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and just ran. We sat next to the former director
of the Boston Marathon. So you're planning to run a marathon.
You've got ninety days to get ready. That's not a
lot of time. So you hire a running coach and
she says she can get you there, but you have
to do three things. You have to train the way
she says, eat the way she says, and sleep the
way she says. All right, there's three things that have
to go right in order for you to accomplish this goal,
according to your running coach. Now, when most people are
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thinking about accomplishing a goal, they do put some thought
into what it's going to take, and they do try
to do a little gut check when it comes to
how likely they are to actually be able to do
what's going to be required. So in this case, let's
take some really simple round numbers. Let's say that we
feel pretty good about each of these things. I think
there's a seventy percent chance will follow the nuttrition plan,
a seventy percent chance will follow the sleep schedule, and
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a seventy percent chance will follow the training schedule. Now,
most people in this situation fall into a trap called averaging.
They look at what has to go right, and if
they feel good about the individual prerequisites, they assume that
they have a good chance of ultimately accomplishing their goal.
That's not true in reality. To find our actual odds
of success, we have to multiply those numbers together exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
So it's about twenty eight percent. I did it in
my head.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Actually thirty four but very close to twenty eight. Now,
you're absolutely right, thirty four percent. This is a goal
where we expect the person to fail, but most people
don't realize that this is a predicted failure. And a
lot of people are pursuing goals in their life and
because they feel good about the individual requirements, they feel
good about their overall outlook. If something is a true
prerequisite to success and you need everything to go right,
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and when we understand that, it changes the way we think.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, you're right, I was thinking seventy percent of seventy
percent is forty nine percent, about thirty four percent, I
was My math was a little off. The other thing,
very quick. If you're talking about something like a marathon,
which does involve you know, some physical development, something that
is it's tangible. There could be something you can do
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it for ninety days and on the eighty fifth day
you could pull a quad or a hamstring or snap
your ankle.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
That makes the odds even worse because well.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
That's exactly right. And that's the foundation of my approach
is for everything that has to go right, there are
some potential bad outcomes. There are things that could happen
instead of the outcome we want. So when it comes
to our need to train consistently for ninety days according
to this regimen, what are some things that could happen? Well,
it might be raining on a day when we need
to train. We might suffer an injury, just like you suggested.
It might be that over time our motivation wanes. What
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I help people do is try to identify the potential
bad outcomes. And the reason for that is I believe
that probability can be understood in the same way we
traditionally understood matter. We've all heard the phrase that matter
can't be created or destroyed. It can just be transferred
or re array changed, And the same thing is true
when it comes to your odds of success. You can't
do something to magically improve your odds of success. The
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odds that you're looking for are hiding and your potential
bad outcome. Why are potential bad outcomes?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Excuse me?
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Why is it a seventy percent chances out of one hundred. Well,
there's a chance that you're going to get injured, there's
a chance that you're going to lose motivation. There's a
chance that it's going to be raining, or that you're
going to get too busy. When we identified the potential
bad outcomes that could stand in our way, we have
an opportunity to use our creativity to come up with
solutions for those things. We have an opportunity to do
things like join a gym for days when it's raining,
find a running partner to help keep our motivation high,
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maybe do some stretches to try to prevent injury. We're
never going to get to a place where we have
one hundred percent chance of success, so we can't optimize
our eyes.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
It could rain day. Some training days with rain actually
going to help the the potential marathon because it may
turn out the day of the marathon it might be raining.
So it's good to have practiced a little bit under
the rain, different sort of footing underneath you. As you're
running the roads on of dry day or a rainy day,
you think, like me, Kyle, that's pretty interesting. Thank you
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so much, Kyle, Austin Young. Folks can get the book.
I'm sure at Amazon, do you, as an author have
a website where they can get to you directly and
purchase the book directly?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I do.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
You can go to my website Kyle Austin Young dot com,
or find the book as you said, on Amazon, Barnes
and Noble, or buy it directly from the Penguin Random
House website.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Sounds great. I really enjoyed this conversation. Was fun. I
really enjoyed this one. Kyle Austin Young, Thanks for being
with us. Success is a numbers game, achieved bigger goals
by changing the odds. Great great job, Kyle, Thank you
so much.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Thanks. Dan enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Very welcome, Very welcome. When we come back, we will
be talking about the theft of a rembrand It's called
the Rembrandt Heist. The story of a criminal genius, a
stolen masterpiece, and an enigmatic friendship. Anthony Morey. He's an
author and Directive of Security, chief investigator at the Isabella
Stewart Gardner Museum here in Boston, and a great friend.
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I've known him from any years. This is a great book.
I just have a copy of it in my hand,
and I can't wait to get to it because it's
something that everyone will be fascinated by. We'll talk with
author Anthony Amory right after the break.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Anthony Amore is a friend of mine, known him for
many years. He's a fascinating individual, great writer. He's the
director of Security and chief Investigator at the Isabella Stewart
Gardner Museum, where he is in charge. He is charged
with the ongoing emfist to recover thirteen works of art
stolen from the museum on that faithful March eighteen, nineteen
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ninety evening. He's written books Stealing Rembrands, a Wall Street
Journal bestseller, The Art of the Corner New York Times bestseller,
and The Woman Who Stole Vermire. He is He's one
of the smartest guys I know. Anthony Glory, welcome back
to Nightside. How are you okay?
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
How are you just doing great? So? Now you have
written a book that is about the steel of a
rembrand It's called the Rembrandt Heist. The story of a
criminal genius, a stolen masterpiece, and an enigmatic friendship. And
we're talking about here this book is about someone who
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has He's a living legend, Miles Corner, a thief, a criminal,
someone who has always been sort of on the other
side of the street from you as a security person
at a museum. And yet you have a friendship with
this guy. And I haven't read the book, but I
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think that down deep you you kind of admire some
things about him.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
You know, you nailed it, Dan. I met Miles ten
years ago. I had put off meeting him for a
long time and knew that he's the best art beief
whoever lived. But I also knew he was not involved
in the Garden Museum heights. Nevertheless, I thought, you know,
if i'm if I'm trying to stop art thieves and
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I'm trying to identify them, it's important that I speak
to the best one ever. And he and I met
and it was sort of like kismet. We just hit
it off from the first moment I was and I
was frankly, I was with him tonight and he's we
just have this friendship and mutual admiration, I guess is
the best way to say it.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
He's sort of the Babe Ruth of art thieves.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
You know, I've said that, and it's like, you know,
if you want to be a really good hitter and
Ted Williams wants to help you, or if you're a
pitcher and you want to know how to strike out
the best hitter, you talk to Babe Ruth or Ted
Williams and absolute, how do you not?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
You know?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
So tell us this. In this particular book, he gets
himself in trouble dealing things and somehow, some way the
idea is planted in his mind. I don't want to
give the book away that the only way that he
might get out of trouble is to steal a rembrand.
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Some would have taken that as a challenge. Miles Corner
took it as a brilliant idea.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
He's the wrong guy to tell that to, you know.
He a state police detective. The head of detective said
that to him, and he obviously wasn't saying it as
an instruction. He mentioned as hyperbole. But Miles is is
not the guy you say that to. And he it
sparked an idea in his head, and he went to
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the MFA and did so.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
And he probably took it, I assume, not only as
a challenge but also as his key to freedom temper temporary.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
As it was exactly. But you know, ultimately, hopefully your readers,
your listeners will buy the book and they'll see he
was facing more than twelve years in federal prison, and
in the end, because of his scheme, he wound up
serving just over two. But one of the most amazing
things about the book is that his best friend, a
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guy named Al Dotteley, who was a straight shooter, you know,
he walked the straight line and it was very, very
successful in the music business, orchestrated the return of this
Rembrandt in a really incredible scheme. And that's the second
half of the book that's captivating.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Well, I don't know as much about Miles Connor. He
was I think on the scene or in jail when
I started working some of these cases, the Salvati Lamoni case,
and I really heard a lot about Miles Connors.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
He's still alive, right, he is he I had a
book talk this Hey, well.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
You mentioned that you did it with Talk with him,
Talk with him tonight. How is he doing physically at
this point? Obviously he has aged. He's probably not as
great shape as he was was.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
You know, he's eighty two, He's he walks with a
really fancy walking stick. But this is a guy I
can tell you he's total two cars in the last
five years and never gets a scratch. This is he's
sort of invincible. It's a really he's just an incredibly
unique character.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
He was a musician, a rocker. I read in the
one of the book, one of the starry stories here
in the book said that he would bench press three
seventy five when he weighed about one hundred and forty pounds.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
He benchressed, He bench pressed four forty five forty five.
He's and he's a master of karate and a member
of mensa.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Man what a resume, and and an art thief and
was at one point had a pretty promising musical career,
which he did not follow. And that's how we met
al Detlly. This is a great book, a great subject.
You're a great writer. When you take a great subject
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and a great great writer together, Anthony, you get a
great book. How can folks get this? And do you
have a website that people can reach you at?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Thank you, Dan? I do I have. My website is
Anthony Amourray dot com. My last name is A M. O. R. E.
So it's Anthony Amoury dot com and people reach me there,
I can send them a signed book, or they can
pick up the book at Amazon or any other retailer.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Okay, one of the things that I like to tell
authors to do is a lot of people they're looking
at this time of year for you know, Christmas, presidents
or Honka President's New Year's gift to somebody who they
think would like this.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Anthony will will take your request at Anthony Amory dot com. Uh,
and he can inscribe it to your favorite uncle, to
your brother in law, somebody who will be this will
be fascinated by this book. And Anthony, I congratulate you
on this. I'm looking forward to reading it in its entirety.
It's going to fill in a little portion of most
of when when Miles was really active. I was studying
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deeply in law school, so I never got a chance
to see him perform, never get a chance to work
a story dealing with him directly. So tell him that
next time you see him. Tell him.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
I said, hello, Okay, I certainly will, and I thank
you so much. Jan I hope you enjoyed the book.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I sure will, Thanks Anthony, talk soon, all right? We
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