February 10, 2025 • 39 mins
We kicked off the program with four news stories and different guests on the stories we think you need to know about!
In honor of Black History Month a look at “The Green Book”. When travel was treacherous for Black people: The Green Book’s legacy in New England. With Emily Sweeney – Boston Globe Reporter.
American Heart Month (Feb) - 2025 top heart-health diets, how to choose which eating plan is best for people concerned about heart health. Gretel Schueller - U.S. News & World Report’s Managing Health Editor joined Dan with some tips.
From Ads to Analysis, What Were The Top Things People Were Googling after the Super Bowl? Commercials, Half Time, players, etc. Christina Basilo, Google Trends Expert checked in.
Less is More: Why 'Micromancing' is making waves for Valentine's Day. What is micromancing? Jennifer Styers - Dating and Relationship Expert & Founder of Loveability explains.
Ask Alexa to play WBZ NewsRadio on #iHeartRadio and listen to NightSide with Dan Rea Weeknights From 8PM-12AM!
In honor of Black History Month a look at “The Green Book”. When travel was treacherous for Black people: The Green Book’s legacy in New England. With Emily Sweeney – Boston Globe Reporter.
American Heart Month (Feb) - 2025 top heart-health diets, how to choose which eating plan is best for people concerned about heart health. Gretel Schueller - U.S. News & World Report’s Managing Health Editor joined Dan with some tips.
From Ads to Analysis, What Were The Top Things People Were Googling after the Super Bowl? Commercials, Half Time, players, etc. Christina Basilo, Google Trends Expert checked in.
Less is More: Why 'Micromancing' is making waves for Valentine's Day. What is micromancing? Jennifer Styers - Dating and Relationship Expert & Founder of Loveability explains.
Ask Alexa to play WBZ NewsRadio on #iHeartRadio and listen to NightSide with Dan Rea Weeknights From 8PM-12AM!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well, I hope you did better in the Super Bowl
than the Kansas City Chiefs did. It's as simple as that.
It was a blowout win for the Philadelphia Eagles. Correct
spelling E A G L. E. S. Note to the
Mayor of Philadelphia on that. My name is Dan Ray,
host of Nightside. I enjoyed watching the game last night
until it became a runaway, and I suspect most of
(00:30):
you did as well. We have lots to talk about tonight.
We will get to the big game. We'll get to
the end of the game. We'll get to the ads,
the TV ads. There were some good ones, some bad ones,
some ones that are totally in memorable. We'll talk about
the halftime show, which was interesting, to say the least.
We have so much to cover tonight. We'll also talk
(00:52):
about the soon to be layoffs sadly at mass General Hospital.
Looks as if the el at Mass General We're going
to take them quite quite a cut in jobs. We'll
get to all of that. That story was broken by
The Boston Globe today and is following on our Globe theme.
I will tell you that I'm Dan Ray hosted Nightside.
(01:13):
Rob Brooks is back in the control room and our
first guest tonight none other than Emily Sweeney from the
Boston Globe, who wrote a really interesting piece that was
in the Boston Globe on January thirty first, the last
day of January. I'm just well about ten days ago
now when I do the math on this, when travel
(01:35):
was treacherous for black people, the Green Books legacy in
New England. Emily Sweeney, Welcome back to Nightside.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
How are you good, Dan, Hey, thanks so much for
having me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
We appreciate you coming on in. That is for sure.
There was the movie The Green Book that starred Morgan Freeman,
if I'm not mistaken a few years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Correct, Yeah, so there was a green Book movie was
you know, based on you know, this concept which was
you know a real thing.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Uh yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Green Books were you know, really important to people of
color who were traveling from the thirties through up through
the sixties. And you know, there were some digitized you know,
they got digitized and I started like looking through these
green Books and I was amazed to see just how
many locations there were all over New England. In Boston
(02:28):
and beyond, and you know, I approached some editors at
The Globe and mentioned it, and you know, we put
together an amazing team to put together this Green Book project,
which is like an interactive map of all the locations,
and you know, and we launched it in time for
(02:48):
Black History months.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So now it's now the movie The Green Book, which
came out a few years ago. I mean, that's it's been.
I was produced, I was directed, I guess by Peter Farley,
a local guy here in New England. But it was
released in twenty eighteen, and it was it was a
(03:11):
great movie. I enjoyed it. It was it was great history.
But it was really focused on the South, on the
Jim Crow South, and here in Massachusetts or New England.
You guys discovered that the same problem exists, even existed
even into the nineteen sixties throughout New England.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Oh absolutely, I mean, Dan, I looked up a lot
of stories and the other reporters who worked on this
project as well. You know, you know, you think of
you know, Jim Crow, you know, laws and things like that,
and you think of that as like being like a
Southern thing, but it really was across the country, you know,
and it wasn't that long ago if you think about it.
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I mean, there were stories in the globe of you know,
black college professors being turned away having reservations well in
advance for hotels. There was a hotel up in Haveril
that you know turned away, you know, a college professor
who is here to speak for a conference, you know,
just because of the color of his skin, and you know,
(04:15):
it's anyway, you know. I was just surprised us to
see how many Green Book locations there were. And you know,
there have been other people who have you know, tried
to you know, map these out There are a lot
of scholars out there who have been, you know, documenting
these sites. But we tried to really jill down and
get every single location, like the exact location where they existed.
(04:37):
And it's been quite it's been an amazing experience because
I've contacted a lot of historical societies and local folks,
you know, and some of these towns, a lot of
people didn't even know that these places existed right in
their backyards.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So I see that you have a map that's associated
with you story. So overall, again, give us just a
rough idea how many locations were you able to identify.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Over over three hundred and fifty, just over three hundred
and fifty.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
And these were both were both restaurants and hotels or
these primarily hotels.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, And actually I should have been more clear too,
because you know, there wasn't just hotels. It was restaurants,
it was gas stations, it was you know, garages, it
was beauty polas. You know, there were so many beauty
pilas back in the day, like fifties and sixties that
were you know, owned by black women all over the
South End. And you know, so it's pretty much all
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types of businesses anything anything you'd need if you were
on the road, you know what I mean, like barbers, tailors,
you know, drug stores and one cool thing we're going
to be doing too, just to tie this together, you know,
you know, kind of bridging you know, history past the present.
On February twenty fifth, the Globe is going to be
(05:58):
hosting a event at Roxbury Community College and with and
we're going to have like a kind of a panel
of speakers and just talking about the importance of black
owned businesses and you know, how the community is doing today.
And so that should be a really good discussion as well.
That's February twenty fifth, and there's information about it on
(06:19):
our website if you're interested in checking it out, So.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
If folks want to, if they missed the piece on
January thirty first, it's titled when when travel was treacherous
for Black people? The Green Books Legacy in New England.
If they just probably google Green Book in Boston Globe,
they'll they'll find this. Yeah, we think of ourselves in
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New England as sort of the abolitionist you know, base
of the Northern universe. How did did these institutions, these
these these restaurants and beautyful, honest and all that did
they increase in New England? There was a pretty big
(07:06):
migration of black people from the South towards you know,
towards New England because we thought of as being a
little bit more tolerant. But is it was it automobile
travel that, you know, the mobility what prompted the need
for the Green Book? Besides you know what, there must
have been something like the arrival of the automobile. You know,
(07:28):
most people in the eighteen hundreds probably never traveled more
than twenty or thirty miles from.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Their home yeah, yeah, you know there absolutely, you know
that that definitely played the you know, the car and like,
you know, people being able to travel and go on
road trips with you know, take their families on vacations
absolutely was a big portion of this. And also you
know business travel, you know what I mean, business trips,
(07:54):
you know, speaking engagements. Yeah, so you know, and another
interesting thing is like we found what we found out
was you know, the the Green Book, you know, kind
of the most famous black travel guide that we know
that was started by Victor H. Green in in the
late nineteen thirties. There was actually a predecessor to that
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that was written by a woman in Connecticut that came
out in nineteen thirty and she compiled all the hotels
and places she could find that you know, were you know,
absolutely welcoming of people of color. And it was interesting
to see a lot of her listings, you know, were
in Victor Green's Green Book, you know when when and
(08:37):
that and that one. You know, Thetyed you know, had
a lot of publishing power, you know, millions of people
and you know was around for decades up until the sixties.
But yeah, I would say you know that the focus
was it you know, you know, Victor Green kind of
put it as like, you know, be uh, you know,
vacationing without aggregation, you know, and that was putting in
(08:59):
my you know, because you know, obviously, you know, people
of color could face like, you know, dangerous situations even
if they went into the wrong spot. And this was
kind of a roadmap, a really important guide, you know,
almost about I hope folks will go.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Back and find the Globe piece if they haven't read
it as yet. And also I would highly recommend the
movie Green Book. Watched it a few years ago. Is
actually set being reminded, as they say, look at it
in nineteen sixty two. I was mistaken for some reason.
I thought Morgan Freeman had a role in that. The
star of the movie was an actor named Marshalla Ali
(09:39):
who depicted this concert pianist who doctor Dawn Shirley, who
was an African American pianist who was in the need
of a driver for this concert tour of the Midwest
and South in the nineteen sixty two So it's not
(10:00):
all that far away and not that long ago that
Green Book was sadly unfortunately necessary. Emily Sweeney, as always,
you always bring great, great topics to our program. Thank
you so much.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Oh thanks for having me, Dan, I appreciate it absolutely.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Talk soon when we get back, we will have another
fine guest. My name is Dan Ray. This is nights.
I did a little bit of a hurried up introduction
of Emily because there was so much to get there. Again,
that movie Green Book. The Green Book is a great
movie to watch. It's educational, historic, et cetera. When we
get back, when I talk about American Heart Month, which
(10:39):
of course is February Valentine's Day, and all of that,
and we will talk about how to un choose the
best eating plan for people concerned about their heart health,
which should be everyone. We'll be back on Nightside. My
name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside on WBZ, Boston's news
radio ten thirty in the AM dial, Boston's news radio
station WBZAM.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Now back to Dan Ray, live from the window World
Nice Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
We're joined by Gretchel Schuller Schuler, US World of News
Reports Managing Health Editor. Gretel I said, Gretchel, I meant
to say, Gretel I apologize.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Okay, Hi Dan, thanks for having me. Good.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
How are you nice to make your acquaintance great. This
is American Heart Month February twenty twenty five, and we're
going to talking about some of the top heart health diets.
My first question is, and this is a generic general question,
but has the heart health diet or the heart health
diets have they changed over time? Oftentimes the food pyramid changes.
(11:43):
You know, people will always I'm sure a kid with
you and say, first they told us you're supposed to
eat this, and then they said don't eat. That is
what we're talking about here. Top health heart diets. Are
they diets that people should be following and should have
been following for years.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I mean the short answer to that is yes. I mean,
the basic science of what makes a heart healthy diet
hasn't changed a whole lot. If there's some nuance that,
I don't want to get too much into the weeds
in terms of like dietary cholesterol like people. This is
a great example. People used to think that eggs were
pure evil when it came to heart, you know, heart health.
(12:22):
But now they're finding that, you know, even people with
you know, higher cholesterol levels, for example, it's okay for
them to have an egg or to you know, on
a regular basis. They're not as evil as that. You know,
we're once made out to be the dietary cholesterol.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
They're no longer evil. They're just expensive. Go ahead, I
didn't mean to that is true.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, so maybe another reason not to eat them. But
in terms of heart health they're okay. Yeah, But just
generally speaking, there's no that's okay. But generally speaking, there
are some sort of basic tenets when it comes to
you know, look for a heart healthy diet, and one
of the big ones is fat.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Right.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
You know, there's good fats and there's bad fats, and
the bad fats those are like what we call saturated
or trans fats. Those are the ones that are proven,
you know, scientifically to raise cholesterol, including you know, the
so called LDL bad cholesterol, and it can increase the
risk of heart disease. That's pretty well established. But at
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the same time, you know, not all fats are created
egle eat equal, and there are actually some fats that
are good for you. And good fats are ones that
are what they call uninsaturated fats. So those would be
ones like found in olive oil or avocado or salmon
or nuts and seeds for example.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
And those all the stuff, all the stuff, all the
stuff that tastes good, you can probably.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Well, I'm going to try and convince you that there
are heart healthy foods that are all so delicious. That's okay,
my goal. You're going to tell me avocados, right, Yes, salmon,
So you could have a delicious dish of like roasted
salmon with a little olive oil dribbled on it. You
could have a side of brown rice or quinoa that
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would work too, you know, for a dessert. You know,
ideally you try to minimize the sweets as they're inflammatory
for your heart, but you could have like watermelon with
some feta cheese on top. Any kind of fruit actually
would do. It's again, it's a lot a lot of
it is about moderation. Fiber is another thing.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, ok, serious dark chocolate, right, so you're.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Right that dark chocolate, and the darker the better. So
not you know, the Hershey's bars or the Cadberry bars,
the milk chocolate, that's not going to do it. But
dark chocolate, the more cacao, the high or the percentage
the better, actually has antioxidant effects. So again, everything in moderation.
So it has been found to have heart health benefits.
(15:11):
So if you're thinking of Valentine's Day coming up and
you want to give someone some chocolate, it may not
be their favorite, but dark chocolate could work. You could
put that on the list.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
No, I have some dark chocolate every night for desserts.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
That's a great choice.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And it tastes good too.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So realistically here, what percentage of Americans do you think
now are much more cognizant of what you're talking about
than maybe we were twenty or thirty years ago.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
So, I mean, the sobering statistic is that, you know,
heart disease is probably one of the leading causes of
death when it comes in adults in the US, especially
when it comes to sort of chronic diet related diseases. It's,
in fact, according to the CDC, the Center for Disease
Control and Prevention, it's the number one cause of death
(16:11):
for men and women. And yet at the same time,
you know, science says that about eighty percent of premature
heart attacks and strokes are preventable. And there is I think,
and people I think are being able to recognize us
that that there's a strong connection between the foods we
eat and our health. And the good news is we
(16:31):
can't improve our heart health, you know, with the right
foods and avoiding you know, the wrong foods.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, I mean that is It's a challenge, There's no
doubt about it. But it certainly is something that that
we should aspire to. Is there anything in recent US
News and World Report that you could cite for folks
that they could find? It's one thing for to talk
(17:00):
about it. Very few people out there are taking notes
right now, but I'm just writing right Is there something
at the US News and World's Report World Reports website
that you could refer my listeners to?
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Absolutely so, just for a little context, you know, we
here at US News and World Report, we have been
evaluating diets for fifteen years and we have a team
of sixty nine experts. These are doctors as well as
dietitians who evaluate, you know, a long list of eating plans,
(17:36):
and one of the categories they evaluate are the best
heart healthy diets. So if you want the full list
of the best heart healthy diets, you can read about
those diets as well as sort of high level tips
to you know, eat heart healthy. Usnews dot com backslash
best slash hyphen diet, and you will see not only
(18:00):
the list of best heart healthy diets, but also best
diets to lower cholesterol and the best diets to lower
blood pressure.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
So as well as we have a.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Total of eleven different health goals that you can look at,
everything from lowering fatty liver to losing weight to improving
brain health.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
So we have those there.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Just give me that website, Yeah more.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Time, sure Usnews dot com backslash best hyphen diet.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Perfect perfect that way everyone don't have a chance to
write it down dot com slash best diet, Gretel, Thank
you very much. Great information tonight. And I try to
make this sometimes a little bit more, uh, you know, conversational,
and I hope I didn't interject myself too much. But
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this is something no note at all, you know, something
that I take really seriously. And I had some advice
from a doctor many years ago that doc, chocolate is
good for you. So I try to work that in
because it tastes great too. I try to work that
into every one of these interviews we do. And you've
been a great sport and I love Yeah News and
(19:19):
World Report. It's a great magazine and it's a website
now I realize, but I can remember reading it as
a magazine. You guys no longer publish correct me if
I'm wrong. I just want to make sure I'm right,
do you guys?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
We do publish an annual issue which includes Best Hospitals
as well as some diet and nutrition information and some
other stories in it. But yes, we are largely now online.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, but again put it on folks. Check it out
usnews dot com or usnews dot com slash Best hyphen Diet.
Thank you so much for joining us tonight, and we'll
talk again.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Absolutely happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, thanks so much. Have a great night. Good night.
When we get back and we talk about the Super Bowl.
You know, it was only like twenty four hours ago
they were still playing. Some people thought Kansas City still
had a chance. We're going to talk with Christina Basilio
about the Google trends that what people and this is
kind of a little preview of what we're gonna do
later on tonight at ten o'clock as well. So stay
with us back right after the news here at the
(20:23):
bottom of the hour on night Side.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Night Side with Dan Ray ONBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Well, it was last night twenty four hours ago, and
that the Philadelphia Eagles were demolishing the Kansas City Chiefs.
And here is Google trends expert Christina Basilio. Christina's been
with us before. Welcome back, Christina, how are you.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
I'm great, so great to be back.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Thanks so much. You're following what people were googling last night,
And let's talk about terms, and did people not know
some of the football terms? It seemed to be a
lot of googling of references that the announcers were making
(21:16):
that I thought most people would know what they were
talking about.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Yeah, it was a really interesting trend that we saw yesterday.
There were searches for things like what is a pick six?
What is a penalty? To things like even what is
a first down? So it seems like maybe there's a
newer fans we are attracted to football. Maybe we just
wanted to get a better understanding of the game itself.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yeah, I mean, I guess if you've never watched a
football game in your life, you know the concept of
a pick six would be WHOA. I was pretty interesting.
But obviously there was that d back from the Eagles
that I guess on his twenty second birthday. His last
name was Dejene. He intercepted the pass and ran it
(22:02):
back for a touchdown, only became the second player in
the history of the championship game. I guess it had
never been done in the Super Bowl before, but it
was done by Steve Van Buren way back, like in
the nineteen forties. So you had those topics which people
didn't understand when the commercials have. The commercials were an
(22:23):
interesting mix, and we're going to talk about this later
on the show and talk to callers during the ten
o'clock hour. But I thought some of the commercials were
really clever. I thought that the David Beckham the two
David commercial was clever. But I thought of them really
were flat. What did you think of the commercials as
(22:45):
a whole, and then give us a couple that you
liked and a couple that you thought fell flat.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Perhaps, Yeah, So the commercials are always really interesting and
something that we've noticed year every years, you did so
many cameos. So the book dot com commercial that had
the muppets, that one seems like it really played up
on like things that are funny. Of course, I had
to talk about the Google Pixel commercial that talks about
(23:10):
how to use Gemini to do something like heartwarming, like
really nail that interview and that storyline was really great
to see. But there's just also really cool concept that
I've been seeing and it's kind of like the trailer
commercial that shows and so I don't know if you
caught the Duncan commercial that was kind of like the
sixty second ad. But then if you go to YouTube,
(23:31):
they actually have a seven minutes and they're calling it
like a Duncan movie commercial to get folks to really
lean in and see more of what they're trying to
talk about and get people excited about the brand. So
it was really interesting to see the different ways that
people and brands decided to use commercials this year.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
So here's my question. I love Duncans. It's a Duncan,
so I do love the donuts too, but I love
Duncans every day. Start with the Duncan. What do you
think it cost Duncans to run that commercial? How many
millions of dollars?
Speaker 6 (24:10):
That's a great question. I do not know. I know
those spots go for millions of dollars and I don't
have a guestimate to share for you, but I'm sure
that someone had to really invest in what they wanted
to do, and I hope they get a return on
that investment.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Well, see, here's the question I have about it is this,
I've heard like three to five million dollars just to
air the commercial. So then the question becomes becomes, I
assuming that Ben Affleck and Bill Belichick on not giving up,
you know, some of the very valuable time as well
(24:47):
as their their name and their recognition endorsing the product,
what do you think it costs to produce a commercial
like that?
Speaker 6 (24:54):
It has to be millions of dollars, it has to
be millions, And I'm pretty so that they have an
entire like strategy around it, not only just that one
spot that they're gonna land, but how do they get
more legs out of it? And I think Duncan did
the really create a thing of using all of that
digital capital that they probably invested into that production to
(25:15):
get a longer life. You know that thirty second add
for millions with that seven minute spot, that's going to
really invest for people to see it over and over again.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
So then the question is how many extra cups of
coffee and donuts does Duncan have to sell, you know,
to justify that expense. That's what boggles my mind. Does
it boggle your mind?
Speaker 6 (25:42):
I mean they had to do something right because they
have you and I talking about it right now, and
all of our listeners are now thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I guess, I guess. Okay, let's talk about the halftime show. Now.
You may or may not know this, but I'm not
a huge Wrap fan, and I actually had trouble following
the lyrics. What was what was the general public reaction
to that extravaganza dance and musical performance.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
So that's really interesting. So Kendrick Lamar instead were the
halftime show participants, so we did have a good group
of folks. We saw some search interests in Kendrick Lamar's lyrics,
the songs like Squabble Up and Not like Us. People
were trying to figure out maybe one are the words
songs they could jam alongside. One of the really cool
(26:36):
search trends that popped up for me, and it happened
for me when I watched the game too, was is
that Serena Williams That was actually the breakout search during
halftime because I don't know if you saw that she
was there on the stage dancing, having a good time,
and it seems like we all were like, wait, is
that Serena? So that was a really cool search to
(26:58):
see too, was.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
From what I from from what I understand, is that
do we know for sure one way or the other?
Speaker 6 (27:06):
I thought it was Yeah, it was Serena.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
She was.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Time.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah. I felt like if they had passed out song
sheet lyrics to the entire country, you know, it would
have been better. I noticed there was no closed caption?
How could close caption stick with that? These are the
sort of questions that come into my mind, Christina, And
(27:36):
I know it's a weird mind, but I'm just saying,
where's closed captions when I need it?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I know.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
It's almost like if they would have given us a
print out of what was going to come for the show,
then we all should have got prepared a little all
know when to sing along?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, I mean it's it's you know, when when my
my wife watches you know, the British theatrical productions and
even though I'm speaking English, I really don't get what
they're saying because of the accent and whatever. It was
just tough to follow last night. And how about the game,
(28:11):
It was not one of the great Super Bowl games
of history. There's there's no doubt about that. I can't
remember a game where it was such a bowout that early.
What what sort of reviews did the game itself get? Oh?
Speaker 6 (28:24):
That was actually one of our breakout searches for the
game was what is the largest comeback? And when was
the largest comeback? So folks were wondering that he Patriots
way that the Eagles performed in the first half.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
New England Patriots.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yeah, no, but yeah, that was the.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
That was the comeback, right Atlanta and the Patriots.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Yeah. And then there was another one with the Miami
Vikings who came back and beat the Cults. I think
they had a thirty three point deficit in the first
half and ended up winning in overtime. So it was
something that people were really interested in to see if
the Chiefs would have it in them, and unfortunately they
didn't this time.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Maybe in a football game, but I don't know that
there's ever been anything beyond what the Patriots get back
from a twenty five point deficit late in the game.
So we think about it as obviously we all were
rooting for Philadelphia because we didn't want the luster of
the Patriots run to be you know, in any way,
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shape or form over overshadowed by the Kansas City Chiefs.
Now we're kind of like a regional group here in
New England. We get a little you know, a little touchy,
you know, defending at the Patriots and and what they
accomplished compared to you know, but whatever it was, it's
always fun. The Super Bowl is always fun. So you
watched it? Did you watch it as a fan? Or
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were you already googling all of this stuff? Just am interested?
Speaker 6 (29:52):
So the fun part is I do watch it as
a fan, but then I am googling stuff myself. My
friends and I are having the conversation and after the
game when we look at the trends and see what
was like top of mind for folks. It is fun
to see when like maybe things I was looking up
like Tom Brady's watch, like everyone else was looking that
up to, or looking up Serena, or looking at things
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about Kendrick. It is fun to see how like everyday thing,
not just as someone who does the trends and looks
at those things that we see all the time, but
as an individual, as a human being. What we're all
kind of on the same page.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Don't take me wrong when I say this, but what
you're really saying is the normal people are doing this
as well, is what the experts were doing.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just teasing with you doing.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I'm just trying to have fun. We did, That's all Christite.
I hope you know me well enough at this point.
Thanks so much for being with us today and love
to have you back as soon as possible. Your great guest,
Thank you so much. Thank you.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
Have a great night, everybody.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
All right, good night. When we come back, we're going
to talk about something called micro romancing or micro romancing.
I guess it's micromancing. Uh. It's it's a new trend. Uh,
and guys are gonna love it, believe it or not.
So stick with us, guys. Valentine's Day is just around
the corner. Actually it's on Friday. We'll be back on
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Nightside after this.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ the News Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I learned a new word today, mic romancing. We're gonna
understand what micromancing is with my next guest, Jennifer Steyer.
She's a dating and relationship expert and founder of Lovability,
a game changing app that's poised to revolutionize the way
revolutionize the way singles connect. Jennifer, where were you and
(31:49):
I were single? Let me tell you this. This sounds
like it's a great thing for men. Uh, Men, don't
be intimidated by this. Explain to us what is micromancing.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Well, it's kind of getting back to old fashioned courting
without all the complications and the expense. So we've really
come we've kind of come full circle. I think covid
was something that really really did a good thing for
relationships and helped getting people right on track and get
(32:21):
them on purpose intentional about finding love. And it's just
it's we're really just been moving further and further into this, uh,
this level of authenticity and dating and relationships. Now then
we're closer than we've ever been.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I think to that, Well, what's interesting when I when
I finished with my last guest, I said, we're going
to talk about micro romancing, And I said, guys, you're
going to like this. Yeah? Am I right? When I
say that guys are going to lie? It sounds like
one of those terms where a lot of guys are saying,
oh no, what that is, you know, I remember microma anything.
(33:01):
I mean, it's it's just as a term. It might
initially be a little intimidating, but guys, this is good
for you, right, it is good.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Here's the trick.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
It's slippery slope though, guys, because.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Though you don't always, it always is.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
I'm giving you the tip. So it's it's one thing
to be able to take your foot off the gas.
It's little gestures. It's not a bouquet of flowers, it's
one special flower. It's not an expensive dinner out. It's
a night in the park with with a picnic, right,
and a bottle of wine. It's the it's little things, gestures,
(33:40):
bringing her cup of coffee in the middle of her day.
Just little things that are that go a long way.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
Now.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
But the problem is, here's the slippery slope. If you
don't do enough, and you don't know what she likes
and what she wants and what she needs, and you're
not speaking her love language when you're doing it, she's
going to see you as either being laid and then
let you go, or you know, just just not breadcrumbing her.
That's an old term where you're just kind of you know,
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emotionally unavailable. So you just have to make sure that
you're engaged well.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Well instead of being lazy. The guys if if you
don't do this right, you might be perceived as being cheap.
That too, that to you. Yeah, I just want to give.
I want to you know, sort of read them, Miranda
writes to them here if you know, if you know
what I'm saying, just so that they don't, you know,
(34:36):
get into trouble. So how did this So this came
out of COVID, said, you're telling me that I thought
that in COVID nobody was dating at all because everyone
was afraid they're going to get infected by someone else.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Yes, but what happened true. But what happened is everybody
kind of went to on to the FaceTime and so
people were facetiming and they were having more meaningful conversation.
And so it's just been kind of moving slowly more
in that direction. Plus you look at social media, you
know the gen zs, they're all moving off of the
(35:10):
dating apps. They're all going to TikTok and to YouTube
influencers because they want that connection, they want that authenticity,
they want the story. So it's just it's the trend
now to get to what's real, which I love as
a dating coach because it's where I've been going for
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such a long time. These people have been on these
swiping apps where you like, in seconds and seconds, they're
swiping on away a face that might be a great
match for them because they don't like their face. And
that's not what love is.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
And we all know that, right, and so what is
There was a song about that, actually what love is? Yeah,
I remember that one. Tell me what is the advantage then,
of some of the apps TikTok and such you mentioned?
It just gives you more time? I am theods As
opposed to swiping and going through fifty you know, fifty
(36:05):
potential dates in in half an hour, you actually can
spend maybe fifteen or twenty minutes talking with someone. Is
that okay?
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Yes, And you're engaged in conversation with other people that
have interest like you, and so you may have a
similar influencer and you start having a conversation online. Listen,
I'm not on TikTok, I'm not gen Z, so I
don't I really don't know how that all works. But
what I will tell you is that the trend is
(36:36):
towards authenticity. Somebody would rather have a really good deep
conversation than go out to most people than it to
go out to extensive dinner. So they're going to pick
that place where they can have the conversation over the
extensive wine and steak. Right, So it's that's the trend
we're moving toward is.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Let me get to know you.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Who are you?
Speaker 5 (36:58):
How do we match? What we have in common? It
matters now?
Speaker 6 (37:02):
Are they young people?
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yeah? Are young people eliminated? Eliminating the middle and I
shouldn't say middle person, the middle website meaning you know,
they don't they somehow are able to connect with people
directly and not have to worry about going to a
dating consultant. Is just a little bit more I guess,
(37:28):
I don't want to say old fashioned, but maybe more standards.
Would that be a way to describe it.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Yes, it's awesome.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
Yes, I uh you know.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
I've been a dating coach and a matchmaker for years
and I will always tell people I would much rather
than meet in person for parties sometimes and people meet
in person and it's way better to do it that way.
So we're moving back to a more traditional way of
meeting people, which is amazing, especially for this younger generation.
(37:57):
So uh yeah, so I think the baby boomers already
have it and want it, but yeah, now they're getting
on board.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Okay. Now, I do a lot of politics, so I'm
not going to put you in the middle here on
politics for real, quick quickly. The country is kind of
moving in a conservative direction in this last election, Okay,
I think yes. Is society socially also following that direction?
Is there are those stars aligned? I'm not looking, I'm
(38:25):
not looking to make a big political point here, but
it just seems to me that maybe we're kind of
taking a little bit of a breather or taking a
step back. And is that inaccurate?
Speaker 5 (38:37):
I actually nobody's ever asked me that, and that is
a fabulous question. I would say yes, I would say
absolutely yes. Hadn't thought about it. But you know, I
have an app that I created because of the fact
that the wipeouts weren't working and all the all the
superficiality about it, and people have said that to me.
I am you know, They'll say, well, this is a
(38:59):
more conservative app for more conservative people, and I'm like, okay,
you can call it conservative, but it's just people with
more traditional values.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Traditional traditional is better. Jennifer, How can folks get in
touch with you? Do you have an app? I mean
a website? I'm sure people would love to be touch
I do.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Yeah, it's lovability l O V E A B I
l I T Y lovability dot A I. Or they
can find me on Facebook. I do free coaching on
Facebook every day, So find my personal account Jennifer Styers
on Facebook and Styers is.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
S T Y E R S. Jennifer. I love to
have you back. This was a fun conversation. You know,
we don't descript questions in advance, as I'm sure you know,
I just make them up as it go along. Thank
you for acknowledging that last question as being within the
realm of legitimacy.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Thank you so much, alcome, thank you.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
We'll talk soon when we come back. We're going to
talk about big layoffs. Not good news expected at mass.
General Brigham back on nights Side after the nine
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well, I hope you did better in the Super Bowl
than the Kansas City Chiefs did. It's as simple as that.
It was a blowout win for the Philadelphia Eagles. Correct
spelling E A G L. E. S. Note to the
Mayor of Philadelphia on that. My name is Dan Ray,
host of Nightside. I enjoyed watching the game last night
until it became a runaway, and I suspect most of
(00:30):
you did as well. We have lots to talk about tonight.
We will get to the big game. We'll get to
the end of the game. We'll get to the ads,
the TV ads. There were some good ones, some bad ones,
some ones that are totally in memorable. We'll talk about
the halftime show, which was interesting, to say the least.
We have so much to cover tonight. We'll also talk
(00:52):
about the soon to be layoffs sadly at mass General Hospital.
Looks as if the el at Mass General We're going
to take them quite quite a cut in jobs. We'll
get to all of that. That story was broken by
The Boston Globe today and is following on our Globe theme.
I will tell you that I'm Dan Ray hosted Nightside.
(01:13):
Rob Brooks is back in the control room and our
first guest tonight none other than Emily Sweeney from the
Boston Globe, who wrote a really interesting piece that was
in the Boston Globe on January thirty first, the last
day of January. I'm just well about ten days ago
now when I do the math on this, when travel
(01:35):
was treacherous for black people, the Green Books legacy in
New England. Emily Sweeney, Welcome back to Nightside.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
How are you good, Dan, Hey, thanks so much for
having me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
We appreciate you coming on in. That is for sure.
There was the movie The Green Book that starred Morgan Freeman,
if I'm not mistaken a few years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Correct, Yeah, so there was a green Book movie was
you know, based on you know, this concept which was
you know a real thing.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Uh yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Green Books were you know, really important to people of
color who were traveling from the thirties through up through
the sixties. And you know, there were some digitized you know,
they got digitized and I started like looking through these
green Books and I was amazed to see just how
many locations there were all over New England. In Boston
(02:28):
and beyond, and you know, I approached some editors at
The Globe and mentioned it, and you know, we put
together an amazing team to put together this Green Book project,
which is like an interactive map of all the locations,
and you know, and we launched it in time for
(02:48):
Black History months.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So now it's now the movie The Green Book, which
came out a few years ago. I mean, that's it's been.
I was produced, I was directed, I guess by Peter Farley,
a local guy here in New England. But it was
released in twenty eighteen, and it was it was a
(03:11):
great movie. I enjoyed it. It was it was great history.
But it was really focused on the South, on the
Jim Crow South, and here in Massachusetts or New England.
You guys discovered that the same problem exists, even existed
even into the nineteen sixties throughout New England.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Oh absolutely, I mean, Dan, I looked up a lot
of stories and the other reporters who worked on this
project as well. You know, you know, you think of
you know, Jim Crow, you know, laws and things like that,
and you think of that as like being like a
Southern thing, but it really was across the country, you know,
and it wasn't that long ago if you think about it.
(03:53):
I mean, there were stories in the globe of you know,
black college professors being turned away having reservations well in
advance for hotels. There was a hotel up in Haveril
that you know turned away, you know, a college professor
who is here to speak for a conference, you know,
just because of the color of his skin, and you know,
(04:15):
it's anyway, you know. I was just surprised us to
see how many Green Book locations there were. And you know,
there have been other people who have you know, tried
to you know, map these out There are a lot
of scholars out there who have been, you know, documenting
these sites. But we tried to really jill down and
get every single location, like the exact location where they existed.
(04:37):
And it's been quite it's been an amazing experience because
I've contacted a lot of historical societies and local folks,
you know, and some of these towns, a lot of
people didn't even know that these places existed right in
their backyards.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So I see that you have a map that's associated
with you story. So overall, again, give us just a
rough idea how many locations were you able to identify.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Over over three hundred and fifty, just over three hundred
and fifty.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
And these were both were both restaurants and hotels or
these primarily hotels.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, And actually I should have been more clear too,
because you know, there wasn't just hotels. It was restaurants,
it was gas stations, it was you know, garages, it
was beauty polas. You know, there were so many beauty
pilas back in the day, like fifties and sixties that
were you know, owned by black women all over the
South End. And you know, so it's pretty much all
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types of businesses anything anything you'd need if you were
on the road, you know what I mean, like barbers, tailors,
you know, drug stores and one cool thing we're going
to be doing too, just to tie this together, you know,
you know, kind of bridging you know, history past the present.
On February twenty fifth, the Globe is going to be
(05:58):
hosting a event at Roxbury Community College and with and
we're going to have like a kind of a panel
of speakers and just talking about the importance of black
owned businesses and you know, how the community is doing today.
And so that should be a really good discussion as well.
That's February twenty fifth, and there's information about it on
(06:19):
our website if you're interested in checking it out, So.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
If folks want to, if they missed the piece on
January thirty first, it's titled when when travel was treacherous
for Black people? The Green Books Legacy in New England.
If they just probably google Green Book in Boston Globe,
they'll they'll find this. Yeah, we think of ourselves in
(06:43):
New England as sort of the abolitionist you know, base
of the Northern universe. How did did these institutions, these
these these restaurants and beautyful, honest and all that did
they increase in New England? There was a pretty big
(07:06):
migration of black people from the South towards you know,
towards New England because we thought of as being a
little bit more tolerant. But is it was it automobile
travel that, you know, the mobility what prompted the need
for the Green Book? Besides you know what, there must
have been something like the arrival of the automobile. You know,
(07:28):
most people in the eighteen hundreds probably never traveled more
than twenty or thirty miles from.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Their home yeah, yeah, you know there absolutely, you know
that that definitely played the you know, the car and like,
you know, people being able to travel and go on
road trips with you know, take their families on vacations
absolutely was a big portion of this. And also you
know business travel, you know what I mean, business trips,
(07:54):
you know, speaking engagements. Yeah, so you know, and another
interesting thing is like we found what we found out
was you know, the the Green Book, you know, kind
of the most famous black travel guide that we know
that was started by Victor H. Green in in the
late nineteen thirties. There was actually a predecessor to that
(08:14):
that was written by a woman in Connecticut that came
out in nineteen thirty and she compiled all the hotels
and places she could find that you know, were you know,
absolutely welcoming of people of color. And it was interesting
to see a lot of her listings, you know, were
in Victor Green's Green Book, you know when when and
(08:37):
that and that one. You know, Thetyed you know, had
a lot of publishing power, you know, millions of people
and you know was around for decades up until the sixties.
But yeah, I would say you know that the focus
was it you know, you know, Victor Green kind of
put it as like, you know, be uh, you know,
vacationing without aggregation, you know, and that was putting in
(08:59):
my you know, because you know, obviously, you know, people
of color could face like, you know, dangerous situations even
if they went into the wrong spot. And this was
kind of a roadmap, a really important guide, you know,
almost about I hope folks will go.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Back and find the Globe piece if they haven't read
it as yet. And also I would highly recommend the
movie Green Book. Watched it a few years ago. Is
actually set being reminded, as they say, look at it
in nineteen sixty two. I was mistaken for some reason.
I thought Morgan Freeman had a role in that. The
star of the movie was an actor named Marshalla Ali
(09:39):
who depicted this concert pianist who doctor Dawn Shirley, who
was an African American pianist who was in the need
of a driver for this concert tour of the Midwest
and South in the nineteen sixty two So it's not
(10:00):
all that far away and not that long ago that
Green Book was sadly unfortunately necessary. Emily Sweeney, as always,
you always bring great, great topics to our program. Thank
you so much.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Oh thanks for having me, Dan, I appreciate it absolutely.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Talk soon when we get back, we will have another
fine guest. My name is Dan Ray. This is nights.
I did a little bit of a hurried up introduction
of Emily because there was so much to get there. Again,
that movie Green Book. The Green Book is a great
movie to watch. It's educational, historic, et cetera. When we
get back, when I talk about American Heart Month, which
(10:39):
of course is February Valentine's Day, and all of that,
and we will talk about how to un choose the
best eating plan for people concerned about their heart health,
which should be everyone. We'll be back on Nightside. My
name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside on WBZ, Boston's news
radio ten thirty in the AM dial, Boston's news radio
station WBZAM.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Now back to Dan Ray, live from the window World
Nice Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
We're joined by Gretchel Schuller Schuler, US World of News
Reports Managing Health Editor. Gretel I said, Gretchel, I meant
to say, Gretel I apologize.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Okay, Hi Dan, thanks for having me. Good.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
How are you nice to make your acquaintance great. This
is American Heart Month February twenty twenty five, and we're
going to talking about some of the top heart health diets.
My first question is, and this is a generic general question,
but has the heart health diet or the heart health
diets have they changed over time? Oftentimes the food pyramid changes.
(11:43):
You know, people will always I'm sure a kid with
you and say, first they told us you're supposed to
eat this, and then they said don't eat. That is
what we're talking about here. Top health heart diets. Are
they diets that people should be following and should have
been following for years.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I mean the short answer to that is yes. I mean,
the basic science of what makes a heart healthy diet
hasn't changed a whole lot. If there's some nuance that,
I don't want to get too much into the weeds
in terms of like dietary cholesterol like people. This is
a great example. People used to think that eggs were
pure evil when it came to heart, you know, heart health.
(12:22):
But now they're finding that, you know, even people with
you know, higher cholesterol levels, for example, it's okay for
them to have an egg or to you know, on
a regular basis. They're not as evil as that. You know,
we're once made out to be the dietary cholesterol.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
They're no longer evil. They're just expensive. Go ahead, I
didn't mean to that is true.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, so maybe another reason not to eat them. But
in terms of heart health they're okay. Yeah, But just
generally speaking, there's no that's okay. But generally speaking, there
are some sort of basic tenets when it comes to
you know, look for a heart healthy diet, and one
of the big ones is fat.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Right.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
You know, there's good fats and there's bad fats, and
the bad fats those are like what we call saturated
or trans fats. Those are the ones that are proven,
you know, scientifically to raise cholesterol, including you know, the
so called LDL bad cholesterol, and it can increase the
risk of heart disease. That's pretty well established. But at
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the same time, you know, not all fats are created
egle eat equal, and there are actually some fats that
are good for you. And good fats are ones that
are what they call uninsaturated fats. So those would be
ones like found in olive oil or avocado or salmon
or nuts and seeds for example.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
And those all the stuff, all the stuff, all the
stuff that tastes good, you can probably.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Well, I'm going to try and convince you that there
are heart healthy foods that are all so delicious. That's okay,
my goal. You're going to tell me avocados, right, Yes, salmon,
So you could have a delicious dish of like roasted
salmon with a little olive oil dribbled on it. You
could have a side of brown rice or quinoa that
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would work too, you know, for a dessert. You know,
ideally you try to minimize the sweets as they're inflammatory
for your heart, but you could have like watermelon with
some feta cheese on top. Any kind of fruit actually
would do. It's again, it's a lot a lot of
it is about moderation. Fiber is another thing.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, ok, serious dark chocolate, right, so you're.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Right that dark chocolate, and the darker the better. So
not you know, the Hershey's bars or the Cadberry bars,
the milk chocolate, that's not going to do it. But
dark chocolate, the more cacao, the high or the percentage
the better, actually has antioxidant effects. So again, everything in moderation.
So it has been found to have heart health benefits.
(15:11):
So if you're thinking of Valentine's Day coming up and
you want to give someone some chocolate, it may not
be their favorite, but dark chocolate could work. You could
put that on the list.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
No, I have some dark chocolate every night for desserts.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
That's a great choice.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And it tastes good too.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So realistically here, what percentage of Americans do you think
now are much more cognizant of what you're talking about
than maybe we were twenty or thirty years ago.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
So, I mean, the sobering statistic is that, you know,
heart disease is probably one of the leading causes of
death when it comes in adults in the US, especially
when it comes to sort of chronic diet related diseases. It's,
in fact, according to the CDC, the Center for Disease
Control and Prevention, it's the number one cause of death
(16:11):
for men and women. And yet at the same time,
you know, science says that about eighty percent of premature
heart attacks and strokes are preventable. And there is I think,
and people I think are being able to recognize us
that that there's a strong connection between the foods we
eat and our health. And the good news is we
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can't improve our heart health, you know, with the right
foods and avoiding you know, the wrong foods.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, I mean that is It's a challenge, There's no
doubt about it. But it certainly is something that that
we should aspire to. Is there anything in recent US
News and World Report that you could cite for folks
that they could find? It's one thing for to talk
(17:00):
about it. Very few people out there are taking notes
right now, but I'm just writing right Is there something
at the US News and World's Report World Reports website
that you could refer my listeners to?
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Absolutely so, just for a little context, you know, we
here at US News and World Report, we have been
evaluating diets for fifteen years and we have a team
of sixty nine experts. These are doctors as well as
dietitians who evaluate, you know, a long list of eating plans,
(17:36):
and one of the categories they evaluate are the best
heart healthy diets. So if you want the full list
of the best heart healthy diets, you can read about
those diets as well as sort of high level tips
to you know, eat heart healthy. Usnews dot com backslash
best slash hyphen diet, and you will see not only
(18:00):
the list of best heart healthy diets, but also best
diets to lower cholesterol and the best diets to lower
blood pressure.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
So as well as we have a.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Total of eleven different health goals that you can look at,
everything from lowering fatty liver to losing weight to improving
brain health.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
So we have those there.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Just give me that website, Yeah more.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Time, sure Usnews dot com backslash best hyphen diet.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Perfect perfect that way everyone don't have a chance to
write it down dot com slash best diet, Gretel, Thank
you very much. Great information tonight. And I try to
make this sometimes a little bit more, uh, you know, conversational,
and I hope I didn't interject myself too much. But
(18:56):
this is something no note at all, you know, something
that I take really seriously. And I had some advice
from a doctor many years ago that doc, chocolate is
good for you. So I try to work that in
because it tastes great too. I try to work that
into every one of these interviews we do. And you've
been a great sport and I love Yeah News and
(19:19):
World Report. It's a great magazine and it's a website
now I realize, but I can remember reading it as
a magazine. You guys no longer publish correct me if
I'm wrong. I just want to make sure I'm right,
do you guys?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
We do publish an annual issue which includes Best Hospitals
as well as some diet and nutrition information and some
other stories in it. But yes, we are largely now online.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, but again put it on folks. Check it out
usnews dot com or usnews dot com slash Best hyphen Diet.
Thank you so much for joining us tonight, and we'll
talk again.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Absolutely happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, thanks so much. Have a great night. Good night.
When we get back and we talk about the Super Bowl.
You know, it was only like twenty four hours ago
they were still playing. Some people thought Kansas City still
had a chance. We're going to talk with Christina Basilio
about the Google trends that what people and this is
kind of a little preview of what we're gonna do
later on tonight at ten o'clock as well. So stay
with us back right after the news here at the
(20:23):
bottom of the hour on night Side.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Night Side with Dan Ray ONBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Well, it was last night twenty four hours ago, and
that the Philadelphia Eagles were demolishing the Kansas City Chiefs.
And here is Google trends expert Christina Basilio. Christina's been
with us before. Welcome back, Christina, how are you.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
I'm great, so great to be back.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Thanks so much. You're following what people were googling last night,
And let's talk about terms, and did people not know
some of the football terms? It seemed to be a
lot of googling of references that the announcers were making
(21:16):
that I thought most people would know what they were
talking about.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Yeah, it was a really interesting trend that we saw yesterday.
There were searches for things like what is a pick six?
What is a penalty? To things like even what is
a first down? So it seems like maybe there's a
newer fans we are attracted to football. Maybe we just
wanted to get a better understanding of the game itself.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yeah, I mean, I guess if you've never watched a
football game in your life, you know the concept of
a pick six would be WHOA. I was pretty interesting.
But obviously there was that d back from the Eagles
that I guess on his twenty second birthday. His last
name was Dejene. He intercepted the pass and ran it
(22:02):
back for a touchdown, only became the second player in
the history of the championship game. I guess it had
never been done in the Super Bowl before, but it
was done by Steve Van Buren way back, like in
the nineteen forties. So you had those topics which people
didn't understand when the commercials have. The commercials were an
(22:23):
interesting mix, and we're going to talk about this later
on the show and talk to callers during the ten
o'clock hour. But I thought some of the commercials were
really clever. I thought that the David Beckham the two
David commercial was clever. But I thought of them really
were flat. What did you think of the commercials as
(22:45):
a whole, and then give us a couple that you
liked and a couple that you thought fell flat.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Perhaps, Yeah, So the commercials are always really interesting and
something that we've noticed year every years, you did so
many cameos. So the book dot com commercial that had
the muppets, that one seems like it really played up
on like things that are funny. Of course, I had
to talk about the Google Pixel commercial that talks about
(23:10):
how to use Gemini to do something like heartwarming, like
really nail that interview and that storyline was really great
to see. But there's just also really cool concept that
I've been seeing and it's kind of like the trailer
commercial that shows and so I don't know if you
caught the Duncan commercial that was kind of like the
sixty second ad. But then if you go to YouTube,
(23:31):
they actually have a seven minutes and they're calling it
like a Duncan movie commercial to get folks to really
lean in and see more of what they're trying to
talk about and get people excited about the brand. So
it was really interesting to see the different ways that
people and brands decided to use commercials this year.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
So here's my question. I love Duncans. It's a Duncan,
so I do love the donuts too, but I love
Duncans every day. Start with the Duncan. What do you
think it cost Duncans to run that commercial? How many
millions of dollars?
Speaker 6 (24:10):
That's a great question. I do not know. I know
those spots go for millions of dollars and I don't
have a guestimate to share for you, but I'm sure
that someone had to really invest in what they wanted
to do, and I hope they get a return on
that investment.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Well, see, here's the question I have about it is this,
I've heard like three to five million dollars just to
air the commercial. So then the question becomes becomes, I
assuming that Ben Affleck and Bill Belichick on not giving up,
you know, some of the very valuable time as well
(24:47):
as their their name and their recognition endorsing the product,
what do you think it costs to produce a commercial
like that?
Speaker 6 (24:54):
It has to be millions of dollars, it has to
be millions, And I'm pretty so that they have an
entire like strategy around it, not only just that one
spot that they're gonna land, but how do they get
more legs out of it? And I think Duncan did
the really create a thing of using all of that
digital capital that they probably invested into that production to
(25:15):
get a longer life. You know that thirty second add
for millions with that seven minute spot, that's going to
really invest for people to see it over and over again.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
So then the question is how many extra cups of
coffee and donuts does Duncan have to sell, you know,
to justify that expense. That's what boggles my mind. Does
it boggle your mind?
Speaker 6 (25:42):
I mean they had to do something right because they
have you and I talking about it right now, and
all of our listeners are now thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I guess, I guess. Okay, let's talk about the halftime show. Now.
You may or may not know this, but I'm not
a huge Wrap fan, and I actually had trouble following
the lyrics. What was what was the general public reaction
to that extravaganza dance and musical performance.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
So that's really interesting. So Kendrick Lamar instead were the
halftime show participants, so we did have a good group
of folks. We saw some search interests in Kendrick Lamar's lyrics,
the songs like Squabble Up and Not like Us. People
were trying to figure out maybe one are the words
songs they could jam alongside. One of the really cool
(26:36):
search trends that popped up for me, and it happened
for me when I watched the game too, was is
that Serena Williams That was actually the breakout search during
halftime because I don't know if you saw that she
was there on the stage dancing, having a good time,
and it seems like we all were like, wait, is
that Serena? So that was a really cool search to
(26:58):
see too, was.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
From what I from from what I understand, is that
do we know for sure one way or the other?
Speaker 6 (27:06):
I thought it was Yeah, it was Serena.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
She was.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Time.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah. I felt like if they had passed out song
sheet lyrics to the entire country, you know, it would
have been better. I noticed there was no closed caption?
How could close caption stick with that? These are the
sort of questions that come into my mind, Christina, And
(27:36):
I know it's a weird mind, but I'm just saying,
where's closed captions when I need it?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I know.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
It's almost like if they would have given us a
print out of what was going to come for the show,
then we all should have got prepared a little all
know when to sing along?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, I mean it's it's you know, when when my
my wife watches you know, the British theatrical productions and
even though I'm speaking English, I really don't get what
they're saying because of the accent and whatever. It was
just tough to follow last night. And how about the game,
(28:11):
It was not one of the great Super Bowl games
of history. There's there's no doubt about that. I can't
remember a game where it was such a bowout that early.
What what sort of reviews did the game itself get? Oh?
Speaker 6 (28:24):
That was actually one of our breakout searches for the
game was what is the largest comeback? And when was
the largest comeback? So folks were wondering that he Patriots
way that the Eagles performed in the first half.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
New England Patriots.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yeah, no, but yeah, that was the.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
That was the comeback, right Atlanta and the Patriots.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Yeah. And then there was another one with the Miami
Vikings who came back and beat the Cults. I think
they had a thirty three point deficit in the first
half and ended up winning in overtime. So it was
something that people were really interested in to see if
the Chiefs would have it in them, and unfortunately they
didn't this time.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Maybe in a football game, but I don't know that
there's ever been anything beyond what the Patriots get back
from a twenty five point deficit late in the game.
So we think about it as obviously we all were
rooting for Philadelphia because we didn't want the luster of
the Patriots run to be you know, in any way,
(29:26):
shape or form over overshadowed by the Kansas City Chiefs.
Now we're kind of like a regional group here in
New England. We get a little you know, a little touchy,
you know, defending at the Patriots and and what they
accomplished compared to you know, but whatever it was, it's
always fun. The Super Bowl is always fun. So you
watched it? Did you watch it as a fan? Or
(29:47):
were you already googling all of this stuff? Just am interested?
Speaker 6 (29:52):
So the fun part is I do watch it as
a fan, but then I am googling stuff myself. My
friends and I are having the conversation and after the
game when we look at the trends and see what
was like top of mind for folks. It is fun
to see when like maybe things I was looking up
like Tom Brady's watch, like everyone else was looking that
up to, or looking up Serena, or looking at things
(30:14):
about Kendrick. It is fun to see how like everyday thing,
not just as someone who does the trends and looks
at those things that we see all the time, but
as an individual, as a human being. What we're all
kind of on the same page.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Don't take me wrong when I say this, but what
you're really saying is the normal people are doing this
as well, is what the experts were doing.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just teasing with you doing.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I'm just trying to have fun. We did, That's all Christite.
I hope you know me well enough at this point.
Thanks so much for being with us today and love
to have you back as soon as possible. Your great guest,
Thank you so much. Thank you.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
Have a great night, everybody.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
All right, good night. When we come back, we're going
to talk about something called micro romancing or micro romancing.
I guess it's micromancing. Uh. It's it's a new trend. Uh,
and guys are gonna love it, believe it or not.
So stick with us, guys. Valentine's Day is just around
the corner. Actually it's on Friday. We'll be back on
(31:18):
Nightside after this.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ the News Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I learned a new word today, mic romancing. We're gonna
understand what micromancing is with my next guest, Jennifer Steyer.
She's a dating and relationship expert and founder of Lovability,
a game changing app that's poised to revolutionize the way
revolutionize the way singles connect. Jennifer, where were you and
(31:49):
I were single? Let me tell you this. This sounds
like it's a great thing for men. Uh, Men, don't
be intimidated by this. Explain to us what is micromancing.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Well, it's kind of getting back to old fashioned courting
without all the complications and the expense. So we've really
come we've kind of come full circle. I think covid
was something that really really did a good thing for
relationships and helped getting people right on track and get
(32:21):
them on purpose intentional about finding love. And it's just
it's we're really just been moving further and further into this, uh,
this level of authenticity and dating and relationships. Now then
we're closer than we've ever been.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I think to that, Well, what's interesting when I when
I finished with my last guest, I said, we're going
to talk about micro romancing, And I said, guys, you're
going to like this. Yeah? Am I right? When I
say that guys are going to lie? It sounds like
one of those terms where a lot of guys are saying,
oh no, what that is, you know, I remember microma anything.
(33:01):
I mean, it's it's just as a term. It might
initially be a little intimidating, but guys, this is good
for you, right, it is good.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Here's the trick.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
It's slippery slope though, guys, because.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Though you don't always, it always is.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
I'm giving you the tip. So it's it's one thing
to be able to take your foot off the gas.
It's little gestures. It's not a bouquet of flowers, it's
one special flower. It's not an expensive dinner out. It's
a night in the park with with a picnic, right,
and a bottle of wine. It's the it's little things, gestures,
(33:40):
bringing her cup of coffee in the middle of her day.
Just little things that are that go a long way.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
Now.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
But the problem is, here's the slippery slope. If you
don't do enough, and you don't know what she likes
and what she wants and what she needs, and you're
not speaking her love language when you're doing it, she's
going to see you as either being laid and then
let you go, or you know, just just not breadcrumbing her.
That's an old term where you're just kind of you know,
(34:08):
emotionally unavailable. So you just have to make sure that
you're engaged well.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Well instead of being lazy. The guys if if you
don't do this right, you might be perceived as being cheap.
That too, that to you. Yeah, I just want to give.
I want to you know, sort of read them, Miranda
writes to them here if you know, if you know
what I'm saying, just so that they don't, you know,
(34:36):
get into trouble. So how did this So this came
out of COVID, said, you're telling me that I thought
that in COVID nobody was dating at all because everyone
was afraid they're going to get infected by someone else.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Yes, but what happened true. But what happened is everybody
kind of went to on to the FaceTime and so
people were facetiming and they were having more meaningful conversation.
And so it's just been kind of moving slowly more
in that direction. Plus you look at social media, you
know the gen zs, they're all moving off of the
(35:10):
dating apps. They're all going to TikTok and to YouTube
influencers because they want that connection, they want that authenticity,
they want the story. So it's just it's the trend
now to get to what's real, which I love as
a dating coach because it's where I've been going for
(35:31):
such a long time. These people have been on these
swiping apps where you like, in seconds and seconds, they're
swiping on away a face that might be a great
match for them because they don't like their face. And
that's not what love is.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
And we all know that, right, and so what is
There was a song about that, actually what love is? Yeah,
I remember that one. Tell me what is the advantage then,
of some of the apps TikTok and such you mentioned?
It just gives you more time? I am theods As
opposed to swiping and going through fifty you know, fifty
(36:05):
potential dates in in half an hour, you actually can
spend maybe fifteen or twenty minutes talking with someone. Is
that okay?
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Yes, And you're engaged in conversation with other people that
have interest like you, and so you may have a
similar influencer and you start having a conversation online. Listen,
I'm not on TikTok, I'm not gen Z, so I
don't I really don't know how that all works. But
what I will tell you is that the trend is
(36:36):
towards authenticity. Somebody would rather have a really good deep
conversation than go out to most people than it to
go out to extensive dinner. So they're going to pick
that place where they can have the conversation over the
extensive wine and steak. Right, So it's that's the trend
we're moving toward is.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Let me get to know you.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Who are you?
Speaker 5 (36:58):
How do we match? What we have in common? It
matters now?
Speaker 6 (37:02):
Are they young people?
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yeah? Are young people eliminated? Eliminating the middle and I
shouldn't say middle person, the middle website meaning you know,
they don't they somehow are able to connect with people
directly and not have to worry about going to a
dating consultant. Is just a little bit more I guess,
(37:28):
I don't want to say old fashioned, but maybe more standards.
Would that be a way to describe it.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Yes, it's awesome.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
Yes, I uh you know.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
I've been a dating coach and a matchmaker for years
and I will always tell people I would much rather
than meet in person for parties sometimes and people meet
in person and it's way better to do it that way.
So we're moving back to a more traditional way of
meeting people, which is amazing, especially for this younger generation.
(37:57):
So uh yeah, so I think the baby boomers already
have it and want it, but yeah, now they're getting
on board.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Okay. Now, I do a lot of politics, so I'm
not going to put you in the middle here on
politics for real, quick quickly. The country is kind of
moving in a conservative direction in this last election, Okay,
I think yes. Is society socially also following that direction?
Is there are those stars aligned? I'm not looking, I'm
(38:25):
not looking to make a big political point here, but
it just seems to me that maybe we're kind of
taking a little bit of a breather or taking a
step back. And is that inaccurate?
Speaker 5 (38:37):
I actually nobody's ever asked me that, and that is
a fabulous question. I would say yes, I would say
absolutely yes. Hadn't thought about it. But you know, I
have an app that I created because of the fact
that the wipeouts weren't working and all the all the
superficiality about it, and people have said that to me.
I am you know, They'll say, well, this is a
(38:59):
more conservative app for more conservative people, and I'm like, okay,
you can call it conservative, but it's just people with
more traditional values.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Traditional traditional is better. Jennifer, How can folks get in
touch with you? Do you have an app? I mean
a website? I'm sure people would love to be touch
I do.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Yeah, it's lovability l O V E A B I
l I T Y lovability dot A I. Or they
can find me on Facebook. I do free coaching on
Facebook every day, So find my personal account Jennifer Styers
on Facebook and Styers is.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
S T Y E R S. Jennifer. I love to
have you back. This was a fun conversation. You know,
we don't descript questions in advance, as I'm sure you know,
I just make them up as it go along. Thank
you for acknowledging that last question as being within the
realm of legitimacy.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Thank you so much, alcome, thank you.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
We'll talk soon when we come back. We're going to
talk about big layoffs. Not good news expected at mass.
General Brigham back on nights Side after the nine
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