November 15, 2024 • 39 mins
We kicked off the program with four news stories and different guests on the stories we think you need to know about!
Alex London - Genealogy and local history librarian with the Worcester Public Library who just reunited with an overdue book, 51 years later.
Last Comiskey explores the stories and atmosphere surrounding Chicago’s iconic baseball stadium and celebrates the final surprising season of the “Baseball Palace of the World” with author Ken Smoller.
“Full House” actor Dave Coulier diagnosed with stage 3 non-Hodgkin lymphoma, an aggressive blood cancer. What non-Hodgkin's lymphoma is (specifically B cell), what makes it so aggressive, how common it is, what treatment options are and symptoms to look out for? Dr. Jeremy Abramson - Director of the Lymphoma Program, Mass General Hospital Cancer Center joined Dan on this important topic.
Bobby’s Books is Winchester’s newest pop-up. Plot twist: It’s run by a second grader, and all the proceeds go to charity. With guests Bobby Atchinson - the second grader at Ambrose Elementary School in Winchester & his Mom Jeanna Atchinson.
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Alex London - Genealogy and local history librarian with the Worcester Public Library who just reunited with an overdue book, 51 years later.
Last Comiskey explores the stories and atmosphere surrounding Chicago’s iconic baseball stadium and celebrates the final surprising season of the “Baseball Palace of the World” with author Ken Smoller.
“Full House” actor Dave Coulier diagnosed with stage 3 non-Hodgkin lymphoma, an aggressive blood cancer. What non-Hodgkin's lymphoma is (specifically B cell), what makes it so aggressive, how common it is, what treatment options are and symptoms to look out for? Dr. Jeremy Abramson - Director of the Lymphoma Program, Mass General Hospital Cancer Center joined Dan on this important topic.
Bobby’s Books is Winchester’s newest pop-up. Plot twist: It’s run by a second grader, and all the proceeds go to charity. With guests Bobby Atchinson - the second grader at Ambrose Elementary School in Winchester & his Mom Jeanna Atchinson.
Ask Alexa to play WBZ NewsRadio on #iHeartRadio and listen to NightSide with Dan Rea Weeknights From 8PM-12AM!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's Radio.
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married to his lovely wife Elaine. I'm not going to
tell you how old Bill is. He's actually celebrating his
twenty eighth birthday tonight. That is the spirit of this guy.
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with his granddaughter and it looks like there's a Holy
Cross celebration going on in the Doughty household. And I
think it has to do with maybe that young hockey
player has committed to play college hockey. So there's a
lot going on in the Doughty household tonight. And I
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maybe I have it backwards. I'm not sure. Can you.
Can you have a granddaughter at the age of twenty eight?
Probably not Probably he may be a little older that,
but he's in spirit. He's twenty eight. So Bill Dougherty,
congratulations to you and Elaine. You're a saint putting up
with him. There's no doubt about that. At least that's
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Hype is on the way. Now. We have a very
busy show tonight and we have four really interesting topics
here in the eight o'clock hour. No phone calls this hour.
I'm delighted to introduce to all of you Alex London,
who was a librarian. It was Massachusetts, a beautiful community,
(03:03):
and there was a story that we saw in the
Worcester Telegram recently about Worcester Public Library was reunited with
an o overdue book of fifty one years. Alex, this
is a great story. Tell us about this. You are
a genealogy and local history librarian with the Worcester Public Library.
(03:25):
Thanks for joining us. This is a great What was
the book that was kept by someone or someone's family
for fifty one years was the title of the book.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Called the Early Works of Aubrey Beardsley, and it was
published in eighteen ninety nine. So quite an old book.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
We dropped the first couple of seconds the early Works
of Aubrey Beardsley exactly. I must tell you, I don't
think I've read any of the early works or the
late works of Aubrey Bearsley. Sounds with a name like that,
they could be sort of a relief picture for the California,
for the Los Angeles Angels. Daty myself.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Well, you know, I tell you I wasn't familiar with
Aubrey Beardsley either. But it actually it turns out that
he wasn't a writer, but he was in fact an artist.
So it was really kind of a publication which had
a lot of his early drawings. Interestingly enough, apparently he
did a lot of work on book illustrations and drawing
(04:34):
the covers book, so that was that was pretty fitting,
but really just a collection of his artwork.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So how did the book show up? I mean, does
someone walk in and say, gee, I've had this book
for fifty one years. I'm sure that wasn't what happened.
And someone said, okay, let's see ten cents a year
you owe us whatever with compounded interest, who brought it
in and what were the circumstances well, you.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Know, it's interesting. Somebody actually brought it into the Cambridge
Public Library. They had, according to the librarians and Cambridge,
they had rescued it from being thrown out. I don't
know if that means that maybe you know, they're cleaning
out someone's attic and found it, or you know, they
found it on sort of a used book sale, but
they noticed that it had Worcester Public Library markings on it,
(05:19):
so they brought it into into Cambridge, which you know,
I guess was the closest library to them. And the
Cambridge Library reached out to us and said, you know, hey,
we have a book with the due date slip from
nineteen seventy three. Would you be interested in having it back?
And sure enough we were, Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
That's an amazing story. Obviously it's not someone I was
joking when I asked the question. It's not someone who
would have held onto the book. You just forgot to
bring it back to the library. But yes, you hear
these stories every once in a while. Has anyone figured
out what is the longest book that was overdue? I mean,
(05:58):
this has to be pretty close to a record, if
not an actual record. I mean we've heard about books
twenty years, thirty years, but this is fifty one years.
And any idea what the longest overdue book, the latest
or the most tardy overdue book in the history of
any library in America? Is there? I assume someone has
(06:20):
that record somewhere. I don't know if you do.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I assume that someone does. You know, I don't know
necessarily if it's us. You do hear stories about this
pop up every every once in a while, But certainly,
at least for our library, this is the oldest, the
oldest overdue book that we've ever had come back to us.
But if it's not a record for the United States,
I'd imagine it has to be at least up there.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It has to be in the top ten. There's no
doubt about that. Now. Have you actually received the book
already from from Cambridge?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Oh? Yes, yes, we have it back. It's currently currently
on my desk.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And is it available for lending or is it are
you going to keep it out of circulation for a while?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Well, you know, it's it's funny, it's actually no longer
in our library catalog because it's been out of the
library for so for so long that you know, a
while back in the nineties, we switched over from the
old you know, card catalog drawers if you if you
remember that, oh, well, electronic cataloging. But you know, since
(07:23):
the book wasn't in the library, it was actually never
added to our electronic catalog. But to answer your question,
we are actually going to have it re cataloged and
make it, uh, you know, make it available on the shelves.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Though.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
What we are going to do, given the fact that
the book is so old and the fact that it
was you know, on the lamb for so long, we
are going to make it so that it can only
be used in the library. So unfortunately people won't be
able to to take it home, but hopefully soon they
will be able to come in and you know, see
it if they're like.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
What what condition was it in? Did it did it
just sit somewhere or was it in rough shape when
it came in?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
No, it was actually it was actually in great shape.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Some of the pages were a little bit yellowed as
you as you might expect, but you know, overall it
was I don't know exactly where it was for over
fifty years, but it seemed like wherever it was it
was in a in decent enough condition. You know, it's funny.
Inside the book there's a little you know, the Worcester
librarians of the time, they put in a little message
that says, you know, this book is the property of
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the Worcester Public Library. You know, good care and prompt
return or the responsibility of each borrower. So so I
was saying that, you know, they did take quite good
care of it, but the prompt return they didn't. They
didn't quite have that down.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, it's just that you'd love to know the whole story.
I mean, and of course it's impossible to figure out.
But but someone must have taken it out, forgotten about it,
and somehow, some way it made its way to Cambridge.
It's it's it's a great it is a great story
and Alex really appreciate, you know, it's funny. So so,
(08:58):
how how old are the books in your library? Are
they books to go back to the to the nineteenth century.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Absolutely, we have, you know, not too many of them,
but we do have certain books that are from the
eighteen hundreds, even the seventeen and sixteen hundreds. You know,
those don't circulate, but we do have we do have
some very old books.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Well, when I first started as a TV reporter, I
am proud to tell you that I was the subject
of a book that was a fellow out of Vermont
lived in Moscow, Vermont, and he did a series of
books called A Day in the Life of and he
happened to do A Day in the Life of a
Television Reporter, which was me back in nineteen eighty one.
(09:40):
And so that book, now, I realize, is pretty darn old,
but I have a few that I kept there in
premo condition, which I intend to pass on to my grandchildren.
You might check it out someday, because I was told
that that book was published by Little Brown, was a
hardcover book, a lot of pictures, a lot of stories.
Who was a children's book, you know, for kids who
(10:01):
wanted to become TV reporter a journalist. And I'm told
that that book was literally in every public library in America.
And while I worked for Channel four many years ago,
periodically I would get a book sent to me by
a librarian. I remember one from Saint Joseph's, Missouri, and
(10:21):
a couple of others. They would send them to me
and say, we're cleaning our shelves and we thought you
might like to have this book, so I have a
few copies of the book. I would bet you you
have one at your Worcester library, believe it or not.
A Day in the Library. The television reporter and the
author was a fellow named Bill Jasperson jasp E R.
(10:43):
S o h n. Great guy, Yale graduate, wonderful writer,
did his whole series of books on Day in the
Life of a Marine Biologist, an entire series going in
the nineteen eighties. Actually, so pleasure to always talk about books.
We recently had Ken gloss on from the Bradle Bookshop.
We love talking about books here on Nightside, and this
(11:04):
is a very memorable bookstory. So thanks Alex for joining
us tonight on a Friday night and telling us a
story about a long overdue book coming home to Worcester.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Thanks Thanks Alice, Alex, I very very much appreciate your
passion for books. When we get back, we're going to
talk with a local author about his passion for baseball
stadiu stadiums stadiums, but stadia, I guess with the Latin plural.
He calls himself the stadium vagabond. His name is Ken Smoller,
(11:39):
we'll get back dright after this and we'll talk with
Ken Smoller or Brookline, who has visited I guess over
three hundred ballparks around the world or stadium stadia around
the world. Coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Okay, let's talk with Ken Small. He's a local author
of Brookline based Ken. Welcome, a nice side. How are you.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
I'm doing great, Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, so you've just released a book about entitled The
Last Kimiski. Talking about Komisky Park. You actually talked to
someone who watched Gaylord Perry and Wilbur Will Wilbur Wood
hook up in an extra inning, zero to zero pitching
matchup in the early nineteen seventies in a very cold
(12:29):
Comiskey park. Uh, tell us about what you do? You
have the stadium vagabond. How many stadiums have you visited
around the world.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah, I have photographed over twenty four hundred stadiums around
the world.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Oh my god, I thought it was I thought it
was three hundred twenty, No hundred.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
That's just baseball's and actually that's that's a little low.
That's probably about six hundred. I was just doing some
back of the envelope math as I was waiting. But yeah,
I started this back in Michigan when I was in
college photo graphing for the Michigan Daily and continued on
as a side pursuit ever since then. And you know,
it's admittedly a little crazy, but everywhere I go, I
(13:10):
try to at the sporting events where we see the
stadiums and do a lot of travel for various reasons
in my life. And as I continued out, and you know,
it all started back at Commiste Park in Chicago, where
I grew up. But I've now been in Boston since
the late nineties.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Okay, so I'm going to throw one at you here. Okay,
I'm assuming you've done all the ballparks in you know,
all the minor league ballparks in America. Okay, is there
any ballpark in America baseball ballpark that you haven't visited.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
There are a few, and some obscure parts of the country.
I need to get to some in Idaho and a
few in Louisiana, but I'm up there. I've got about
maybe four hundred minor league parks most of the college
ballparks and softball ballparks, so there are definitely some places
that need to hit both on the ballpark front and
college football stadium front.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
So, man, this is unbelievable. And okay, how many countries
have you visited to see stadium or as I'm going
to pluralize at stadia, I'm up.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
To twenty four right now, so we you know, keep
adding every year to something new. But off to twenty
four countries in forty eight states, okay.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I actually one day while I was in Oslo made
it a point to get out to Bislet Stadium, which
was the site of the nineteen fifty two Olympics, which
was in sort of kind of like a neighborhood. Have
you been to Oslo and have you seen that the
nineteen fifty the site of the fifty two Olympics? Per chance?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
You know, I need to get up to Scandinavia. That's
a part of Europe I haven't been to. I did
recently see a ballpark in Rotterdam in the Netherlands, which
is kind of unusual seeing ballparks in various parts of the.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Baseball A baseball park is what, yeah, yeah, which is okay, fine, Wow,
that's unbelievable. Have you ever had while you were out
looking at one of these ballparks. I remember when I
went to Bislet Stadium there was some sort of a
grounds crew. They kind of looked at me a little weird,
and I just said, hey, I'm just giving a look,
you know, I mean, sometimes they locked these things up.
(15:15):
I'm young enough. You're not young enough to remember when
the Red Sox back in the sixties and seventies used
to open up the gates at Fenway Park about at
the top of the seventh inning. So if you were
in the neighborhood and you just wanted to stroll in.
This was in the bad old days, when the Red
Sox weren't drawing big crowds, you could just walk in.
(15:36):
Has there ever been a ballpark or a stadium that
you were not allowed to get into?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, Oh yeah I have.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I've had a lot of problems over the years. I've
snuck in a few places. I kind of reached the
age where I no longer will climb fences, had too
many issues with that happening. But I just recently got
caught in Antwerp sneaking into it and I got caught,
and they were not happy with me and kicked me
out before I got a chance to snap my photo.
(16:06):
But most people are nice when I tell them what
I do and I show them my business card. Usually
I get nice ushers and security guards and other people
that work at the stagings that let me in, or
I always find a groundscrew to let me in or
or some open door to seek in. I kind of
just act as perfidently as I can and move in,
and I'm not doing any damage. I'm snapping a photo
(16:27):
and leaving.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So so tell us about the book. Kmiski Park. Obviously,
it was on the South side of Chicago, not a
particularly good neighborhood and in its later years, but it
had been the home of the White Sox. It was
the home of the White Sox during the Black Sox
scandal of the early twentieth century. And there were guys
(16:50):
there that you know, Nellie Fox, Louis Aparicio, Billy Pierce,
Ted Klezuski, Mini Minoso, all these great players who passed through,
of course, Frank Thomas and later years. What's the most
important thing to remember about Kimiski Park, other than the
fact that it was named for the Komiski family, which
owned the ball team.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I think Komiskey Park was like one of those real
special ballparks that doesn't really get its due. It was
two years older than Fedway Park, opening up in nineteen ten.
Zachary Taylor Davis was the architect who went on to
design Rigley Field, although designed it as a Weigman Park
for the Federal League Wales. But it was an unusual
(17:31):
ballpark in that it was based to some degree on
a cathedral style architect architecture. That was what Davis's expertise
was in. He also based it to some degree on
the Roman Coliseum, infusing it with arches all throughout the
ballpark so that fans could both see out to the neighborhood,
but the neighborhood could see in with what was going
(17:51):
on in the ballpark. It was used for baseball, of course,
but so many other things. The Beatles play there, There
are prize fights there. The Chicago Cardinals, who are not there. Cardinals, Yeah,
played there for decades and in fact are the only
team to have won a championship for a Chicago home
team in that ballpark. The White Sox the two championships
(18:14):
they won during that era were on the road, and
so were the Chicago Negro League of American Giants were
a real star team at that at that juncture. They
always won their championships on the road. So the Chicago Cardinals.
Blake claimed that the only title that occurred in Kamiskey
Park for the home team.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, that would have been, sir, I'm guessing nineteen forty
three or something like that. Forty years of forty seven.
The Bears were always Wrigley Field. We used to watch
the Thanksgiving Day games. The only other thing I have
a buddy of mine who played in the Major League
twelve years. He was a pitcher, So he hit one
home run and he hit it in Komiskey Park. He
hit it off a pitcher. I don't know if you
(18:51):
remember the name, Joel Horland, but he was a pretty
hard hitcher out of Texas, and he hit it a
you know, an August afternoon. It was his one dinger
during his career, which is one more than most of
us have. Ken, I love this story. Tell me, how
can folks get any of your books? Let's let's try
to sell some books for you.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Yeah, Christmas.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Absolutely, it's a terrific Christmas present for anyone who likes
sports or baseball, not just White Sox fans, because I
tali you a lot of other ballparks. It's available at
laskmiskeybook dot com or at my website stadium vagabond dot com,
which also has a lot of different stadium prints from
from throughout the world that people can get in framed
(19:34):
form or in puzzles. I just posted some really great
ones of the old Boston Garden and that's something I'm
to work on in the future, is a book about
all the New England stadiu And you know, I've lived
here now half of my life and it's seen a
lot of great sporting events here. But you know, my
first start was over at Mysky Park back in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
First first game you went to right, yeah back.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Listen eineteen seventy seven was my first game, loss against
the Orioles. A lot more losses than wins.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I'll bet you who was who was pitching for? Who
was pitching for the Orioles. I hope Palmer was pitching
for the Orioles that day.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
It was not, It was not, it was it was Tippy.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Your little left handed picture sure who was pitching for
the White Sox.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Oh, I don't remember that. I don't about six years
old at the time.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
But that's great, it's great.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
You know there's some definitely connections to Boston with with
Comisky black Sack scandal was hatched and near Square.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
More Square Hotel. Absolutely. Absolutely. Hey, you know what, let's uh,
let's do an hour some night in early December. Have
your pr person I think it's Sharon, Uh, have her
get in touch with my producer. I have my producer
get in touch with you. Let's do an hour some
Thursday Friday night, either at ten or eleven. And let's
(20:55):
let's get get some books sold for you across the country.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Okay, sounds terrific.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Susby can look forward to it. Thank you so much.
I love I love sports. Uh, and we'll we'll have
the hour will fly by, I promise again. The website
stadium vagabond dot com or last kamiskibook dot com.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Thanks again, Thank you, Ken, thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Take care.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
All right, we get back. We're going to talk about
well a more serious topic. Full House actor David Coolier
diagnosed with stage three non Hodgkin lymphoma. We're going to
talk with doctor Jeremy Jeremy Abramson, director of the lymphoma
program at mass General Hospital Cancer Center, right after this break,
after the news at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
It's Night's Eye with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
All right. By the way, I was mistaken the fifty
two Olympics were actually in Helsinki. For some reason, I
thought that they were in Oslo. And when I make
a mistake, I tried to correct it. The fifty two Olympics.
We're in neighboring, actually not neighboring because because Finland is
on the other side of Sweden, but certainly in Scandinavia.
(22:09):
And yeah, I've always thought that I had visited the
sight of the fifty two Olympics when I looked at
that stadium in Ostlo, Bislett Stadium. Anyway, let us move on.
Now that I have made my apology, I apologize for that.
I'm not often wrong on sports, although occasionally. So here
(22:30):
we go. I'm delighted to welcome doctor Jeremy Abramson. He's
the director of the lymphoma program at Mass General Hospital
Cancer Center, and the words no one wants to hear
are a stage three non Hodgkin lymphoma, Doctor Abramson. Welcome
to nightside, sir, how are you tonight?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Thanks to be with you.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I'm not familiar with this actor. I don't watch as
much TV as I should. Full house actor Dave Coolier.
Is that how his name is pronounced. He's a young guy,
as I understand it, and he's dealing with this might
have been the disease that claimed the life of former
Massachusetts Senator Paul song As if I'm not.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Mistaken, Yeah, this a song has also had a type
of non Hodgkin lymphoma. Turns out there are lots of
different types of non host so they probably had different diseases,
but all under the same umbrella.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, so what okay when you say how many varieties
are we talking about here? Because that's the first thing,
and I always learned things in interviews. That's the first
thing I learned. I thought that the diagnosis of stage
three well a non Hodgkin lymphoma was one type of disease.
Explained to us why there's such a number of variations
(23:49):
that fit under that umbrella if you could.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yeah, sure so. Lymphoma is a general term for any
cancer that comes from O lymphocyte, which is a type
of white blood cell that we all have in our
blood stream, lives in our lymph nodes all of our organs.
They're designed to keep us safe from infections, viruses, bacteria,
that sort of thing. We all have two types of
healthy lymphocytes, B lymphocytes and T lymphocytes, So non hoggen
(24:14):
lymphomas can come from either B lymphocytes or T lymphocytes,
and so that leads to either B cell non hodgegen
lymphomas and T cell non hodge gen lymphomas. Turns out
there are several dozens of each type, and within the
B cell non hodgeg lymphomas, which is the type that
Dave Coolay announced that he has, there are close to
(24:36):
four dozen different types of B cell non hodgeg lymphoma,
and each of these diseases actually has a different biology
based on what type of mutation happens within a lymphocyte
when it goes awry will lead to the different type
of lymphoma that develops, and some of them can be
very aggressive, nasty, dangerous diseases. Other B cell non hogg
(24:58):
lymphomas are actually we call in lend very slow growing
and may never even be life threatening. So there's really
a huge variety and that affects how we approach it.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
So it's good to know that, yes, yeah, I'm stunned
by that. And I assume that that doesn't make your
job as the treating physician, surgeon or whatever and the
easier because I assumed that the variety of treatments must
be specialized for each type of this disease.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Well, that's exactly right. It didn't used to be that way.
It used to be that as oncologists, we had a
limited number of tools in our tool chest, and they
were basic chemotherapy drugs, and so we treated all lymphomas
and a one size fits all approach with sort of
old fashioned chemotherapies. It turns out today, the more we
understand the biology of each of these different underlying lymphomas,
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the more we can treat them in a directed way.
And that's why today each of these diseases often treated
distinctly with different types of targeted drugs, different types of
immunotherapy is where we actually help harness the power of
the patient's own immune system against their own cancer to
eradicate it, and that's led to much better outcomes. Across
the board. Regardless of the type of lymphoma, a patient
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might have.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
One thing that I'm sure everyone who's listening tonight is
thinking is what are the symptoms? What? What do you
need to look out for? Obviously, getting to your doctor
once at least maybe twice a year, getting some blood
tests are critical here. But for those who are not
being that vigilant, is that is it fatigue that might
(26:39):
give someone some concern to be checked out. What are
some of the early symptoms that to get to get
ahead of this disease.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
It's a great question.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Dan.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
You know, there's no specific symptom for lymphoma. There are
a number of potential symptoms. The most common symptom, believe
it or not, is just painless enlargement of lymphnodes. Generally,
lympho aren't painful, but if you notice a lump or
a bump that you hadn't noticed before. Lymphodes live commonly
in the neck, under the arms and the armpits and
(27:10):
the groin. They look deeper in the body too, but
you wouldn't be able to feel them, so unexplained painless
swelling in those regions certainly warms evaluation. Additionally, some lymphomas,
particularly the more aggressive types of lymphoma, can have systemic symptoms.
These could be unexplained fevers, drenching sweats at night where
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people drench through their bedclothes and their sheets and have
to kind of change them in the middle of the night,
unexplained fatigue, unexplained weight loss, that kind of thing. But
the most common thing is just you know, somebody's shaving
and they'd notice a bump that they hadn't noticed before,
or they just feel around and find something. But certainly
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any unexplained symptoms certainly warn't a visit to your doctor.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Is there a correlation in terms of gender or a
with the frequency of this.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Disease, You know, it depends on the subtype of lymphoma,
But in general, lymphomas can occur at any age. They
can occur in children, and my oldest patients are in
their hundreds on average. The median age is in the
mid sixties, but it can literally occur at any age.
And I just take care of adults, and my youngest
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patients are teenagers and my oldest patients are centenarians. There
are no very clear risk factors in general most patients
lymphomas or what we call sporadic or random in nature,
or a lightning strike, if you will. There are certain
folks who are at slightly higher risk. Those include people
with autoimmune diseases, people with certain chronic infections like HIV,
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people whose immune systems are suppressed for other reasons, such
as they've had an organ transplanter. They take an immune
suppressant for an autoimmune disease. And then there's some association
with things like smoking and obesity. So healthy living is
always good. But the majority of people who develop a lymphoma,
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it's not from anything they ate, drank, smoked, where they lived,
anything like that. It's simply a stroke of bad luck.
Although i will say all lymphomas are treatable. Many of
them are highly curable, so I'm always optimistic when I'm
meeting with a patient for the very first time.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Doctor, I hear it in your voice, and I hear
also in your voice a passion for what you do,
And I'm always amazed whenever I talk to you, know,
the high profile docs like yourself, that you have to
deal with people every day who are getting horrific news,
and yet you continue to carry on. And I just
(29:47):
want to say you probably don't get thanked enough. But
any doctor who I've ever talked to, you take care
of us when we are at the lowest point in
our lives, and you many times cure us and many
times help and always help us. I just want to
say thank you for your time tonight and thank you
for what you do.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Thanks Dan, it's my honor and privilege.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Well, I'll tell you it's I'm just blown away by
by your passion. And again, I'd love to have you
back at some point periodically, because I think the more
we know about these diseases, the earlier all of us
can catch them and present ourselves to great physicians and
surgeons like yourself. Thank you again, Doctor Jeremy Abramson, the
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director of le Lymphoma Program at mass General Hospital Cancer Center.
Thanks again, Doctor Abramson. Thank you, good night. Thanks well
we come back. We're going to end on a really
up note. Bobby's Books in Winchester. It's the newest pop up.
I don't want to spoil the surprise here, but it's
run by a second greater. All proceeds go to charity.
(30:55):
We'll talk with Bobby Atchinson and his mom. He's the
second grade at the Ambrose Was Elementary School in Winchester.
Also talked with his mom, Gina. Gina, I thought, I
think it's pronounced right after this, and we'll find out
everything we need to know about the newest pop up
in Winchester.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
Night Side Studios on w b Z News Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
All right, I'm delighted to welcome two guests, Bobby Atchinson
and his mom, Gina Atchinson. Welcome to both of you.
How are you both doing tonight?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Good?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Good? That's Bob. I can tell Bob, Hey, Bob, you
have started Winchester's newest pop up? What what do you?
What do you do? By the way, I want to
just mention that the Boston Globe, actually I think did
this story, uh, and the reporter there is a woman
named Cara Baskin uh. And I want to give Cara credit,
(31:56):
uh for for doing this story. How does it feel, Bob,
to already have been in a newspaper now be on
the radio?
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Really good?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Really good? So, so tell us about your store? What
what's the sale at your store?
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Did you say it again?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Sure? Tell us about your store? What what do you
what are you selling?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
What?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
What's what's going on? Tell us about your your your
your project? Here, what's what's the deal?
Speaker 6 (32:28):
So we're selling books and all the proceeds go to
the Home of Little Wanders. The Home of Little Wanders
are kids that don't have homes.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yes, I'm very familiar with that. That's a I think
it's still in Jamaica. Plane. It's a great institution. So
where do you get the book? What type of books
are you selling?
Speaker 6 (32:47):
We're selling elementary books, some older kids books because my
friends and family helped out donating books to us.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Really, so your your your customers are kids your age
and a little older. I guess right, yeah, yes, okay,
how did you How did you come up with this idea?
Did you and your mom work on it together? Is
this a project? Was it your idea?
Speaker 6 (33:21):
So I had a bunch of books in my bedroom
and they started paralleling up. I said we should do
something about these books. We started donating them, and I said,
why don't we make a bookstore?
Speaker 3 (33:35):
And then.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
My mom said yeah, and then we and then we started.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Not doing it.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
And then my mom said, why don't we give all
the money to charity? And I said, yeah, of course,
and then she said, we could give it to some
home of the Little Wonders. And she looked at there's
the closest one by, and there was one really close by.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
And then I said, go ahead, Bobby. Do you mean
do you mean to interrupt?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
You?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Go ahead?
Speaker 6 (34:09):
I said that that would be great to do.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
That.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
That's a great idea. So how do people get in
touch with you if they want to purchase a book?
Speaker 6 (34:24):
So in the morning a lot of people come by
or walk by it and they might try to get
the books, or they can just take a look at them.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
And yeah, so now it's called the pop up store.
You're probably smarter at this terminology than me. Do you do?
You have like a little stand in front of your
house and you on a nice day you bring some
of the books out and you talk to people as
they're going by. Is that how it works? Or did
they come up and ring the doorbell and say, hey, Bob,
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what sort of books do you have for sale?
Speaker 6 (35:01):
That never really happened?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
How's it?
Speaker 6 (35:06):
We do it at Starbucks? I mean sucks.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
So you show up, oh, okay, the Starbucks in Winchester,
and what do you do? You set up a little
table or something with books.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
We set up a.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Little table and we have like bookstands on it, you
know those spinning things that have a bunch of things
around it. That's where we put most.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
Of the bigger books because they don't sit in our shelves.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
They don't in our shelves.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Well, this is great. I'm looking at the picture that
was in the Globe in Carabaskin's column and that really
you got some stands, you got you had quite a
collection of books. Are you a biblio file? That that's
a word that means loves books. So you're a biblia file? Yeah, yeah, okay,
that's that's from the French. In France they call libraries
(36:02):
a BiblioTech and that's that's where the word. So you
now know you're a bibliophile, okay, And that's a good
thing to be because I love books too, and these
are books that this is great. You got to sign
and everything. You really how long you've been doing this, Bob?
Speaker 6 (36:21):
It started last week.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
So this is only a week old. Wow, boy, we
got in on the ground floor here. These are great pictures.
I wish you're best of luck with this. Can I
talk to your mom for a second. Is she is
she close by. Hi, Hi, Hi Jenna, how are you?
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
This is quite quite an entrepreneurial effort. I just uh
looked at the picture here of Bob at his table.
This one looks like I'm not sure. I guess you
inside or outside? This data They in the cold, the weather.
He doing it in the winter time.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
We're actually not We're just going to do it for
three weekends leading up to Giving Tuesday and December. And
it's right outside in front of the Starbucks in Winchester
Center from nine to eleven am. And he's collected books
from a lot of his friends in the community and
kids in his elementary school, and also his own books
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that he's read that he wants to share with other kids.
So every book's five bucks and all the money goes
to the Little Home, the Home by Little Wanders. And
we're very proud of him. He's very excited about this opportunity.
So thank you so much for being interested in chatting
about it.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah. No, he did a nice job. He's entrepreneurial, that's
for sure. I explained to him that he's now a bibliophile.
So I don't know if you heard my explanation him,
but obviously in France, the library's called the BiblioTech and
so that's I think the derivation of the word bibliophile.
So he now can he knows he's a bibliophile. Well,
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handsome looking young man, obviously a great presentation. Has this
story been in the Globe or is this going to
be in the Globe over the weekend?
Speaker 7 (38:11):
It just went out today. So Kerabaskin did her newsletter
Parenting and Filtered on Thursday, and then the Globe published
it this morning. So we're very proud of him and
it's been exciting to see the response.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Well, that's great. So you'll be there tomorrow morning from
nine to eleven, Yes, at the Winchester Starbucks. So I'm
going to have all my Dunkin Donut friends. I'm a
Dunkin Donuts guy that I want you to at least
go over to the Starbucks exactly downtown Winchester.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
Thank you to go into the Starbucks. We'll be right outside.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
They give you did you have to get are they cooperating?
Did they give you permission to set up out.
Speaker 7 (38:56):
There or is this just a little permit in the town.
So we reached out to the town and then we
reached out to the charity, and it's been a nice little,
you know, end to end experiment to kind of show him,
you know, something he's passionate about, which is reading in
books and how that can benefit other kids who might be.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Great just great connections for him. And he's gonna he's
gonna be he's already something. He's going to be really something.
I'm sure we're going to follow his career and figure
out that he uh, he's going to do something special,
that's for sure. Jenna, is it Jenna Regina?
Speaker 5 (39:35):
I'm sorry either way, it's Gina, but you know, all right, Gena,
all right, Gina, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
You should be very proud of him to Bob tell
him again. Congratulations, Thank you so.
Speaker 7 (39:44):
Much, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
When we get back, we're going to talk about the
Pink House up on Plumb Island. Where do you hear
this story? Here comes the news
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thank you very much to call. I will get everybody
to eleven fifty eight so I can get you, you know,
with two minutes to Saturday morning. Just stick with me
for the next four hours. We have an interesting program
coming up before we start tonight. Just the two minor
matters that I would like, well, they're not minor matters,
are major matters. First of all, I want to send
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a big happy birthday wish out to a young man
by the name of Bill Dougherty. Bill Dougherty, who is
married to his lovely wife Elaine. I'm not going to
tell you how old Bill is. He's actually celebrating his
twenty eighth birthday tonight. That is the spirit of this guy.
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He's a great friend. I saw a picture of him
with his granddaughter and it looks like there's a Holy
Cross celebration going on in the Doughty household. And I
think it has to do with maybe that young hockey
player has committed to play college hockey. So there's a
lot going on in the Doughty household tonight. And I
suspect there's a purple and white collars are abounding on
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maybe I have it backwards. I'm not sure. Can you.
Can you have a granddaughter at the age of twenty eight?
Probably not Probably he may be a little older that,
but he's in spirit. He's twenty eight. So Bill Dougherty,
congratulations to you and Elaine. You're a saint putting up
with him. There's no doubt about that. At least that's
what I'm told. Anyway, even on Bill's birthday, Elaine, we
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got to give you a shout out. Okay, simple as that.
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He was only five away. Because we haven't heard from
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Paul Pelvis that tote bag from our friends at college,
Hype is on the way. Now. We have a very
busy show tonight and we have four really interesting topics
here in the eight o'clock hour. No phone calls this hour.
I'm delighted to introduce to all of you Alex London,
who was a librarian. It was Massachusetts, a beautiful community,
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and there was a story that we saw in the
Worcester Telegram recently about Worcester Public Library was reunited with
an o overdue book of fifty one years. Alex, this
is a great story. Tell us about this. You are
a genealogy and local history librarian with the Worcester Public Library.
(03:25):
Thanks for joining us. This is a great What was
the book that was kept by someone or someone's family
for fifty one years was the title of the book.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Called the Early Works of Aubrey Beardsley, and it was
published in eighteen ninety nine. So quite an old book.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
We dropped the first couple of seconds the early Works
of Aubrey Beardsley exactly. I must tell you, I don't
think I've read any of the early works or the
late works of Aubrey Bearsley. Sounds with a name like that,
they could be sort of a relief picture for the California,
for the Los Angeles Angels. Daty myself.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Well, you know, I tell you I wasn't familiar with
Aubrey Beardsley either. But it actually it turns out that
he wasn't a writer, but he was in fact an artist.
So it was really kind of a publication which had
a lot of his early drawings. Interestingly enough, apparently he
did a lot of work on book illustrations and drawing
(04:34):
the covers book, so that was that was pretty fitting,
but really just a collection of his artwork.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So how did the book show up? I mean, does
someone walk in and say, gee, I've had this book
for fifty one years. I'm sure that wasn't what happened.
And someone said, okay, let's see ten cents a year
you owe us whatever with compounded interest, who brought it
in and what were the circumstances well, you.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Know, it's interesting. Somebody actually brought it into the Cambridge
Public Library. They had, according to the librarians and Cambridge,
they had rescued it from being thrown out. I don't
know if that means that maybe you know, they're cleaning
out someone's attic and found it, or you know, they
found it on sort of a used book sale, but
they noticed that it had Worcester Public Library markings on it,
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so they brought it into into Cambridge, which you know,
I guess was the closest library to them. And the
Cambridge Library reached out to us and said, you know, hey,
we have a book with the due date slip from
nineteen seventy three. Would you be interested in having it back?
And sure enough we were, Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
That's an amazing story. Obviously it's not someone I was
joking when I asked the question. It's not someone who
would have held onto the book. You just forgot to
bring it back to the library. But yes, you hear
these stories every once in a while. Has anyone figured
out what is the longest book that was overdue? I mean,
(05:58):
this has to be pretty close to a record, if
not an actual record. I mean we've heard about books
twenty years, thirty years, but this is fifty one years.
And any idea what the longest overdue book, the latest
or the most tardy overdue book in the history of
any library in America? Is there? I assume someone has
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that record somewhere. I don't know if you do.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I assume that someone does. You know, I don't know
necessarily if it's us. You do hear stories about this
pop up every every once in a while, But certainly,
at least for our library, this is the oldest, the
oldest overdue book that we've ever had come back to us.
But if it's not a record for the United States,
I'd imagine it has to be at least up there.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It has to be in the top ten. There's no
doubt about that. Now. Have you actually received the book
already from from Cambridge?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Oh? Yes, yes, we have it back. It's currently currently
on my desk.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And is it available for lending or is it are
you going to keep it out of circulation for a while?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Well, you know, it's it's funny, it's actually no longer
in our library catalog because it's been out of the
library for so for so long that you know, a
while back in the nineties, we switched over from the
old you know, card catalog drawers if you if you
remember that, oh, well, electronic cataloging. But you know, since
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the book wasn't in the library, it was actually never
added to our electronic catalog. But to answer your question,
we are actually going to have it re cataloged and
make it, uh, you know, make it available on the shelves.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Though.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
What we are going to do, given the fact that
the book is so old and the fact that it
was you know, on the lamb for so long, we
are going to make it so that it can only
be used in the library. So unfortunately people won't be
able to to take it home, but hopefully soon they
will be able to come in and you know, see
it if they're like.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
What what condition was it in? Did it did it
just sit somewhere or was it in rough shape when
it came in?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
No, it was actually it was actually in great shape.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Some of the pages were a little bit yellowed as
you as you might expect, but you know, overall it
was I don't know exactly where it was for over
fifty years, but it seemed like wherever it was it
was in a in decent enough condition. You know, it's funny.
Inside the book there's a little you know, the Worcester
librarians of the time, they put in a little message
that says, you know, this book is the property of
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the Worcester Public Library. You know, good care and prompt
return or the responsibility of each borrower. So so I
was saying that, you know, they did take quite good
care of it, but the prompt return they didn't. They
didn't quite have that down.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, it's just that you'd love to know the whole story.
I mean, and of course it's impossible to figure out.
But but someone must have taken it out, forgotten about it,
and somehow, some way it made its way to Cambridge.
It's it's it's a great it is a great story
and Alex really appreciate, you know, it's funny. So so,
(08:58):
how how old are the books in your library? Are
they books to go back to the to the nineteenth century.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Absolutely, we have, you know, not too many of them,
but we do have certain books that are from the
eighteen hundreds, even the seventeen and sixteen hundreds. You know,
those don't circulate, but we do have we do have
some very old books.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Well, when I first started as a TV reporter, I
am proud to tell you that I was the subject
of a book that was a fellow out of Vermont
lived in Moscow, Vermont, and he did a series of
books called A Day in the Life of and he
happened to do A Day in the Life of a
Television Reporter, which was me back in nineteen eighty one.
(09:40):
And so that book, now, I realize, is pretty darn old,
but I have a few that I kept there in
premo condition, which I intend to pass on to my grandchildren.
You might check it out someday, because I was told
that that book was published by Little Brown, was a
hardcover book, a lot of pictures, a lot of stories.
Who was a children's book, you know, for kids who
(10:01):
wanted to become TV reporter a journalist. And I'm told
that that book was literally in every public library in America.
And while I worked for Channel four many years ago,
periodically I would get a book sent to me by
a librarian. I remember one from Saint Joseph's, Missouri, and
(10:21):
a couple of others. They would send them to me
and say, we're cleaning our shelves and we thought you
might like to have this book, so I have a
few copies of the book. I would bet you you
have one at your Worcester library, believe it or not.
A Day in the Library. The television reporter and the
author was a fellow named Bill Jasperson jasp E R.
(10:43):
S o h n. Great guy, Yale graduate, wonderful writer,
did his whole series of books on Day in the
Life of a Marine Biologist, an entire series going in
the nineteen eighties. Actually, so pleasure to always talk about books.
We recently had Ken gloss on from the Bradle Bookshop.
We love talking about books here on Nightside, and this
(11:04):
is a very memorable bookstory. So thanks Alex for joining
us tonight on a Friday night and telling us a
story about a long overdue book coming home to Worcester.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Thanks Thanks Alice, Alex, I very very much appreciate your
passion for books. When we get back, we're going to
talk with a local author about his passion for baseball
stadiu stadiums stadiums, but stadia, I guess with the Latin plural.
He calls himself the stadium vagabond. His name is Ken Smoller,
(11:39):
we'll get back dright after this and we'll talk with
Ken Smoller or Brookline, who has visited I guess over
three hundred ballparks around the world or stadium stadia around
the world. Coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Okay, let's talk with Ken Small. He's a local author
of Brookline based Ken. Welcome, a nice side. How are you.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
I'm doing great, Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, so you've just released a book about entitled The
Last Kimiski. Talking about Komisky Park. You actually talked to
someone who watched Gaylord Perry and Wilbur Will Wilbur Wood
hook up in an extra inning, zero to zero pitching
matchup in the early nineteen seventies in a very cold
(12:29):
Comiskey park. Uh, tell us about what you do? You
have the stadium vagabond. How many stadiums have you visited
around the world.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah, I have photographed over twenty four hundred stadiums around
the world.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Oh my god, I thought it was I thought it
was three hundred twenty, No hundred.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
That's just baseball's and actually that's that's a little low.
That's probably about six hundred. I was just doing some
back of the envelope math as I was waiting. But yeah,
I started this back in Michigan when I was in
college photo graphing for the Michigan Daily and continued on
as a side pursuit ever since then. And you know,
it's admittedly a little crazy, but everywhere I go, I
(13:10):
try to at the sporting events where we see the
stadiums and do a lot of travel for various reasons
in my life. And as I continued out, and you know,
it all started back at Commiste Park in Chicago, where
I grew up. But I've now been in Boston since
the late nineties.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Okay, so I'm going to throw one at you here. Okay,
I'm assuming you've done all the ballparks in you know,
all the minor league ballparks in America. Okay, is there
any ballpark in America baseball ballpark that you haven't visited.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
There are a few, and some obscure parts of the country.
I need to get to some in Idaho and a
few in Louisiana, but I'm up there. I've got about
maybe four hundred minor league parks most of the college
ballparks and softball ballparks, so there are definitely some places
that need to hit both on the ballpark front and
college football stadium front.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
So, man, this is unbelievable. And okay, how many countries
have you visited to see stadium or as I'm going
to pluralize at stadia, I'm up.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
To twenty four right now, so we you know, keep
adding every year to something new. But off to twenty
four countries in forty eight states, okay.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I actually one day while I was in Oslo made
it a point to get out to Bislet Stadium, which
was the site of the nineteen fifty two Olympics, which
was in sort of kind of like a neighborhood. Have
you been to Oslo and have you seen that the
nineteen fifty the site of the fifty two Olympics? Per chance?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
You know, I need to get up to Scandinavia. That's
a part of Europe I haven't been to. I did
recently see a ballpark in Rotterdam in the Netherlands, which
is kind of unusual seeing ballparks in various parts of the.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Baseball A baseball park is what, yeah, yeah, which is okay, fine, Wow,
that's unbelievable. Have you ever had while you were out
looking at one of these ballparks. I remember when I
went to Bislet Stadium there was some sort of a
grounds crew. They kind of looked at me a little weird,
and I just said, hey, I'm just giving a look,
you know, I mean, sometimes they locked these things up.
(15:15):
I'm young enough. You're not young enough to remember when
the Red Sox back in the sixties and seventies used
to open up the gates at Fenway Park about at
the top of the seventh inning. So if you were
in the neighborhood and you just wanted to stroll in.
This was in the bad old days, when the Red
Sox weren't drawing big crowds, you could just walk in.
(15:36):
Has there ever been a ballpark or a stadium that
you were not allowed to get into?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, Oh yeah I have.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I've had a lot of problems over the years. I've
snuck in a few places. I kind of reached the
age where I no longer will climb fences, had too
many issues with that happening. But I just recently got
caught in Antwerp sneaking into it and I got caught,
and they were not happy with me and kicked me
out before I got a chance to snap my photo.
(16:06):
But most people are nice when I tell them what
I do and I show them my business card. Usually
I get nice ushers and security guards and other people
that work at the stagings that let me in, or
I always find a groundscrew to let me in or
or some open door to seek in. I kind of
just act as perfidently as I can and move in,
and I'm not doing any damage. I'm snapping a photo
(16:27):
and leaving.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So so tell us about the book. Kmiski Park. Obviously,
it was on the South side of Chicago, not a
particularly good neighborhood and in its later years, but it
had been the home of the White Sox. It was
the home of the White Sox during the Black Sox
scandal of the early twentieth century. And there were guys
(16:50):
there that you know, Nellie Fox, Louis Aparicio, Billy Pierce,
Ted Klezuski, Mini Minoso, all these great players who passed through,
of course, Frank Thomas and later years. What's the most
important thing to remember about Kimiski Park, other than the
fact that it was named for the Komiski family, which
owned the ball team.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I think Komiskey Park was like one of those real
special ballparks that doesn't really get its due. It was
two years older than Fedway Park, opening up in nineteen ten.
Zachary Taylor Davis was the architect who went on to
design Rigley Field, although designed it as a Weigman Park
for the Federal League Wales. But it was an unusual
(17:31):
ballpark in that it was based to some degree on
a cathedral style architect architecture. That was what Davis's expertise
was in. He also based it to some degree on
the Roman Coliseum, infusing it with arches all throughout the
ballpark so that fans could both see out to the neighborhood,
but the neighborhood could see in with what was going
(17:51):
on in the ballpark. It was used for baseball, of course,
but so many other things. The Beatles play there, There
are prize fights there. The Chicago Cardinals, who are not there. Cardinals, Yeah,
played there for decades and in fact are the only
team to have won a championship for a Chicago home
team in that ballpark. The White Sox the two championships
(18:14):
they won during that era were on the road, and
so were the Chicago Negro League of American Giants were
a real star team at that at that juncture. They
always won their championships on the road. So the Chicago Cardinals.
Blake claimed that the only title that occurred in Kamiskey
Park for the home team.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, that would have been, sir, I'm guessing nineteen forty
three or something like that. Forty years of forty seven.
The Bears were always Wrigley Field. We used to watch
the Thanksgiving Day games. The only other thing I have
a buddy of mine who played in the Major League
twelve years. He was a pitcher, So he hit one
home run and he hit it in Komiskey Park. He
hit it off a pitcher. I don't know if you
(18:51):
remember the name, Joel Horland, but he was a pretty
hard hitcher out of Texas, and he hit it a
you know, an August afternoon. It was his one dinger
during his career, which is one more than most of
us have. Ken, I love this story. Tell me, how
can folks get any of your books? Let's let's try
to sell some books for you.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Yeah, Christmas.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Absolutely, it's a terrific Christmas present for anyone who likes
sports or baseball, not just White Sox fans, because I
tali you a lot of other ballparks. It's available at
laskmiskeybook dot com or at my website stadium vagabond dot com,
which also has a lot of different stadium prints from
from throughout the world that people can get in framed
(19:34):
form or in puzzles. I just posted some really great
ones of the old Boston Garden and that's something I'm
to work on in the future, is a book about
all the New England stadiu And you know, I've lived
here now half of my life and it's seen a
lot of great sporting events here. But you know, my
first start was over at Mysky Park back in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
First first game you went to right, yeah back.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Listen eineteen seventy seven was my first game, loss against
the Orioles. A lot more losses than wins.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I'll bet you who was who was pitching for? Who
was pitching for the Orioles. I hope Palmer was pitching
for the Orioles that day.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
It was not, It was not, it was it was Tippy.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Your little left handed picture sure who was pitching for
the White Sox.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Oh, I don't remember that. I don't about six years
old at the time.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
But that's great, it's great.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
You know there's some definitely connections to Boston with with
Comisky black Sack scandal was hatched and near Square.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
More Square Hotel. Absolutely. Absolutely. Hey, you know what, let's uh,
let's do an hour some night in early December. Have
your pr person I think it's Sharon, Uh, have her
get in touch with my producer. I have my producer
get in touch with you. Let's do an hour some
Thursday Friday night, either at ten or eleven. And let's
(20:55):
let's get get some books sold for you across the country.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Okay, sounds terrific.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Susby can look forward to it. Thank you so much.
I love I love sports. Uh, and we'll we'll have
the hour will fly by, I promise again. The website
stadium vagabond dot com or last kamiskibook dot com.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Thanks again, Thank you, Ken, thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Take care.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
All right, we get back. We're going to talk about
well a more serious topic. Full House actor David Coolier
diagnosed with stage three non Hodgkin lymphoma. We're going to
talk with doctor Jeremy Jeremy Abramson, director of the lymphoma
program at mass General Hospital Cancer Center, right after this break,
after the news at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
It's Night's Eye with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
All right. By the way, I was mistaken the fifty
two Olympics were actually in Helsinki. For some reason, I
thought that they were in Oslo. And when I make
a mistake, I tried to correct it. The fifty two Olympics.
We're in neighboring, actually not neighboring because because Finland is
on the other side of Sweden, but certainly in Scandinavia.
(22:09):
And yeah, I've always thought that I had visited the
sight of the fifty two Olympics when I looked at
that stadium in Ostlo, Bislett Stadium. Anyway, let us move on.
Now that I have made my apology, I apologize for that.
I'm not often wrong on sports, although occasionally. So here
(22:30):
we go. I'm delighted to welcome doctor Jeremy Abramson. He's
the director of the lymphoma program at Mass General Hospital
Cancer Center, and the words no one wants to hear
are a stage three non Hodgkin lymphoma, Doctor Abramson. Welcome
to nightside, sir, how are you tonight?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Thanks to be with you.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I'm not familiar with this actor. I don't watch as
much TV as I should. Full house actor Dave Coolier.
Is that how his name is pronounced. He's a young guy,
as I understand it, and he's dealing with this might
have been the disease that claimed the life of former
Massachusetts Senator Paul song As if I'm not.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Mistaken, Yeah, this a song has also had a type
of non Hodgkin lymphoma. Turns out there are lots of
different types of non host so they probably had different diseases,
but all under the same umbrella.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, so what okay when you say how many varieties
are we talking about here? Because that's the first thing,
and I always learned things in interviews. That's the first
thing I learned. I thought that the diagnosis of stage
three well a non Hodgkin lymphoma was one type of disease.
Explained to us why there's such a number of variations
(23:49):
that fit under that umbrella if you could.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yeah, sure so. Lymphoma is a general term for any
cancer that comes from O lymphocyte, which is a type
of white blood cell that we all have in our
blood stream, lives in our lymph nodes all of our organs.
They're designed to keep us safe from infections, viruses, bacteria,
that sort of thing. We all have two types of
healthy lymphocytes, B lymphocytes and T lymphocytes, So non hoggen
(24:14):
lymphomas can come from either B lymphocytes or T lymphocytes,
and so that leads to either B cell non hodgegen
lymphomas and T cell non hodge gen lymphomas. Turns out
there are several dozens of each type, and within the
B cell non hodgeg lymphomas, which is the type that
Dave Coolay announced that he has, there are close to
(24:36):
four dozen different types of B cell non hodgeg lymphoma,
and each of these diseases actually has a different biology
based on what type of mutation happens within a lymphocyte
when it goes awry will lead to the different type
of lymphoma that develops, and some of them can be
very aggressive, nasty, dangerous diseases. Other B cell non hogg
(24:58):
lymphomas are actually we call in lend very slow growing
and may never even be life threatening. So there's really
a huge variety and that affects how we approach it.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
So it's good to know that, yes, yeah, I'm stunned
by that. And I assume that that doesn't make your
job as the treating physician, surgeon or whatever and the
easier because I assumed that the variety of treatments must
be specialized for each type of this disease.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Well, that's exactly right. It didn't used to be that way.
It used to be that as oncologists, we had a
limited number of tools in our tool chest, and they
were basic chemotherapy drugs, and so we treated all lymphomas
and a one size fits all approach with sort of
old fashioned chemotherapies. It turns out today, the more we
understand the biology of each of these different underlying lymphomas,
(25:54):
the more we can treat them in a directed way.
And that's why today each of these diseases often treated
distinctly with different types of targeted drugs, different types of
immunotherapy is where we actually help harness the power of
the patient's own immune system against their own cancer to
eradicate it, and that's led to much better outcomes. Across
the board. Regardless of the type of lymphoma, a patient
(26:15):
might have.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
One thing that I'm sure everyone who's listening tonight is
thinking is what are the symptoms? What? What do you
need to look out for? Obviously, getting to your doctor
once at least maybe twice a year, getting some blood
tests are critical here. But for those who are not
being that vigilant, is that is it fatigue that might
(26:39):
give someone some concern to be checked out. What are
some of the early symptoms that to get to get
ahead of this disease.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
It's a great question.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Dan.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
You know, there's no specific symptom for lymphoma. There are
a number of potential symptoms. The most common symptom, believe
it or not, is just painless enlargement of lymphnodes. Generally,
lympho aren't painful, but if you notice a lump or
a bump that you hadn't noticed before. Lymphodes live commonly
in the neck, under the arms and the armpits and
(27:10):
the groin. They look deeper in the body too, but
you wouldn't be able to feel them, so unexplained painless
swelling in those regions certainly warms evaluation. Additionally, some lymphomas,
particularly the more aggressive types of lymphoma, can have systemic symptoms.
These could be unexplained fevers, drenching sweats at night where
(27:31):
people drench through their bedclothes and their sheets and have
to kind of change them in the middle of the night,
unexplained fatigue, unexplained weight loss, that kind of thing. But
the most common thing is just you know, somebody's shaving
and they'd notice a bump that they hadn't noticed before,
or they just feel around and find something. But certainly
(27:53):
any unexplained symptoms certainly warn't a visit to your doctor.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Is there a correlation in terms of gender or a
with the frequency of this.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Disease, You know, it depends on the subtype of lymphoma,
But in general, lymphomas can occur at any age. They
can occur in children, and my oldest patients are in
their hundreds on average. The median age is in the
mid sixties, but it can literally occur at any age.
And I just take care of adults, and my youngest
(28:24):
patients are teenagers and my oldest patients are centenarians. There
are no very clear risk factors in general most patients
lymphomas or what we call sporadic or random in nature,
or a lightning strike, if you will. There are certain
folks who are at slightly higher risk. Those include people
with autoimmune diseases, people with certain chronic infections like HIV,
(28:49):
people whose immune systems are suppressed for other reasons, such
as they've had an organ transplanter. They take an immune
suppressant for an autoimmune disease. And then there's some association
with things like smoking and obesity. So healthy living is
always good. But the majority of people who develop a lymphoma,
(29:10):
it's not from anything they ate, drank, smoked, where they lived,
anything like that. It's simply a stroke of bad luck.
Although i will say all lymphomas are treatable. Many of
them are highly curable, so I'm always optimistic when I'm
meeting with a patient for the very first time.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Doctor, I hear it in your voice, and I hear
also in your voice a passion for what you do,
And I'm always amazed whenever I talk to you, know,
the high profile docs like yourself, that you have to
deal with people every day who are getting horrific news,
and yet you continue to carry on. And I just
(29:47):
want to say you probably don't get thanked enough. But
any doctor who I've ever talked to, you take care
of us when we are at the lowest point in
our lives, and you many times cure us and many
times help and always help us. I just want to
say thank you for your time tonight and thank you
for what you do.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Thanks Dan, it's my honor and privilege.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Well, I'll tell you it's I'm just blown away by
by your passion. And again, I'd love to have you
back at some point periodically, because I think the more
we know about these diseases, the earlier all of us
can catch them and present ourselves to great physicians and
surgeons like yourself. Thank you again, Doctor Jeremy Abramson, the
(30:33):
director of le Lymphoma Program at mass General Hospital Cancer Center.
Thanks again, Doctor Abramson. Thank you, good night. Thanks well
we come back. We're going to end on a really
up note. Bobby's Books in Winchester. It's the newest pop up.
I don't want to spoil the surprise here, but it's
run by a second greater. All proceeds go to charity.
(30:55):
We'll talk with Bobby Atchinson and his mom. He's the
second grade at the Ambrose Was Elementary School in Winchester.
Also talked with his mom, Gina. Gina, I thought, I
think it's pronounced right after this, and we'll find out
everything we need to know about the newest pop up
in Winchester.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
Night Side Studios on w b Z News Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
All right, I'm delighted to welcome two guests, Bobby Atchinson
and his mom, Gina Atchinson. Welcome to both of you.
How are you both doing tonight?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Good?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Good? That's Bob. I can tell Bob, Hey, Bob, you
have started Winchester's newest pop up? What what do you?
What do you do? By the way, I want to
just mention that the Boston Globe, actually I think did
this story, uh, and the reporter there is a woman
named Cara Baskin uh. And I want to give Cara credit,
(31:56):
uh for for doing this story. How does it feel, Bob,
to already have been in a newspaper now be on
the radio?
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Really good?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Really good? So, so tell us about your store? What
what's the sale at your store?
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Did you say it again?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Sure? Tell us about your store? What what do you
what are you selling?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
What?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
What's what's going on? Tell us about your your your
your project? Here, what's what's the deal?
Speaker 6 (32:28):
So we're selling books and all the proceeds go to
the Home of Little Wanders. The Home of Little Wanders
are kids that don't have homes.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yes, I'm very familiar with that. That's a I think
it's still in Jamaica. Plane. It's a great institution. So
where do you get the book? What type of books
are you selling?
Speaker 6 (32:47):
We're selling elementary books, some older kids books because my
friends and family helped out donating books to us.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Really, so your your your customers are kids your age
and a little older. I guess right, yeah, yes, okay,
how did you How did you come up with this idea?
Did you and your mom work on it together? Is
this a project? Was it your idea?
Speaker 6 (33:21):
So I had a bunch of books in my bedroom
and they started paralleling up. I said we should do
something about these books. We started donating them, and I said,
why don't we make a bookstore?
Speaker 3 (33:35):
And then.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
My mom said yeah, and then we and then we started.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Not doing it.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
And then my mom said, why don't we give all
the money to charity? And I said, yeah, of course,
and then she said, we could give it to some
home of the Little Wonders. And she looked at there's
the closest one by, and there was one really close by.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
And then I said, go ahead, Bobby. Do you mean
do you mean to interrupt?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
You?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Go ahead?
Speaker 6 (34:09):
I said that that would be great to do.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
That.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
That's a great idea. So how do people get in
touch with you if they want to purchase a book?
Speaker 6 (34:24):
So in the morning a lot of people come by
or walk by it and they might try to get
the books, or they can just take a look at them.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
And yeah, so now it's called the pop up store.
You're probably smarter at this terminology than me. Do you do?
You have like a little stand in front of your
house and you on a nice day you bring some
of the books out and you talk to people as
they're going by. Is that how it works? Or did
they come up and ring the doorbell and say, hey, Bob,
(34:56):
what sort of books do you have for sale?
Speaker 6 (35:01):
That never really happened?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
How's it?
Speaker 6 (35:06):
We do it at Starbucks? I mean sucks.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
So you show up, oh, okay, the Starbucks in Winchester,
and what do you do? You set up a little
table or something with books.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
We set up a.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Little table and we have like bookstands on it, you
know those spinning things that have a bunch of things
around it. That's where we put most.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
Of the bigger books because they don't sit in our shelves.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
They don't in our shelves.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Well, this is great. I'm looking at the picture that
was in the Globe in Carabaskin's column and that really
you got some stands, you got you had quite a
collection of books. Are you a biblio file? That that's
a word that means loves books. So you're a biblia file? Yeah, yeah, okay,
that's that's from the French. In France they call libraries
(36:02):
a BiblioTech and that's that's where the word. So you
now know you're a bibliophile, okay, And that's a good
thing to be because I love books too, and these
are books that this is great. You got to sign
and everything. You really how long you've been doing this, Bob?
Speaker 6 (36:21):
It started last week.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
So this is only a week old. Wow, boy, we
got in on the ground floor here. These are great pictures.
I wish you're best of luck with this. Can I
talk to your mom for a second. Is she is
she close by. Hi, Hi, Hi Jenna, how are you?
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
This is quite quite an entrepreneurial effort. I just uh
looked at the picture here of Bob at his table.
This one looks like I'm not sure. I guess you
inside or outside? This data They in the cold, the weather.
He doing it in the winter time.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
We're actually not We're just going to do it for
three weekends leading up to Giving Tuesday and December. And
it's right outside in front of the Starbucks in Winchester
Center from nine to eleven am. And he's collected books
from a lot of his friends in the community and
kids in his elementary school, and also his own books
(37:25):
that he's read that he wants to share with other kids.
So every book's five bucks and all the money goes
to the Little Home, the Home by Little Wanders. And
we're very proud of him. He's very excited about this opportunity.
So thank you so much for being interested in chatting
about it.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah. No, he did a nice job. He's entrepreneurial, that's
for sure. I explained to him that he's now a bibliophile.
So I don't know if you heard my explanation him,
but obviously in France, the library's called the BiblioTech and
so that's I think the derivation of the word bibliophile.
So he now can he knows he's a bibliophile. Well,
(38:02):
handsome looking young man, obviously a great presentation. Has this
story been in the Globe or is this going to
be in the Globe over the weekend?
Speaker 7 (38:11):
It just went out today. So Kerabaskin did her newsletter
Parenting and Filtered on Thursday, and then the Globe published
it this morning. So we're very proud of him and
it's been exciting to see the response.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Well, that's great. So you'll be there tomorrow morning from
nine to eleven, Yes, at the Winchester Starbucks. So I'm
going to have all my Dunkin Donut friends. I'm a
Dunkin Donuts guy that I want you to at least
go over to the Starbucks exactly downtown Winchester.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
Thank you to go into the Starbucks. We'll be right outside.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
They give you did you have to get are they cooperating?
Did they give you permission to set up out.
Speaker 7 (38:56):
There or is this just a little permit in the town.
So we reached out to the town and then we
reached out to the charity, and it's been a nice little,
you know, end to end experiment to kind of show him,
you know, something he's passionate about, which is reading in
books and how that can benefit other kids who might be.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Great just great connections for him. And he's gonna he's
gonna be he's already something. He's going to be really something.
I'm sure we're going to follow his career and figure
out that he uh, he's going to do something special,
that's for sure. Jenna, is it Jenna Regina?
Speaker 5 (39:35):
I'm sorry either way, it's Gina, but you know, all right, Gena,
all right, Gina, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
You should be very proud of him to Bob tell
him again. Congratulations, Thank you so.
Speaker 7 (39:44):
Much, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
When we get back, we're going to talk about the
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