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January 27, 2025 36 mins
We kicked off the program with four news stories and different guests on the stories we think you need to know about!

Rare Maine earthquake shakes New England, rattling states from Mass. to RI! John Ebel, Ph.D – Boston College Professor - Senior Research Scientist, Weston Observatory focusing on earthquakes checked in with Dan.

Marni Jameson – Author of "Rightsize Today to Create Your Best Life Tomorrow-Transformative guide for those looking to simplify their homes and their lives as they enter new phases." joined Dan to help de-clutter our lives.

Predictions of a snowstorm hitting MA this week with potential plowable snow to hits parts of MA with Accuweather Meteorologist Matt Benz.

International Holocaust Remembrance Day (January 27th) marks the 80th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz. Debbie Coltin President and Executive Director of the Lappin Foundation joined Dan to discuss it.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thang you, Nicole. Hope everyone is nice and toasty warm
as we get ready for a couple of little snow
events this last week of January. Good evening everyone. My
name is Dan Ray, the host of Nightside. Always an
honor and pleasure to work with Nicole Davis, who's one
of the true broadcast professionals, not only in New England

(00:30):
but in America. As far as I am concerned, I
cannot heap enough praise on my friend Nicole Davis. Nor
can I heap enough praise on my great friend Rob Brooks,
who's the producer of this program. We've been we are now.
I am in my eighteenth year, and I think Rob
has been with me about thirteen or fourteen of those years.
We have to go back, Rob and figure out exactly

(00:51):
what year you began so we can give you proper credit.
But welcome to all of you listeners. I say old,
I don't mean I don't mean old in terms of age,
but listeners have been with me for a long time,
and perhaps if you're listening tonight for the first time
anywhere across America, around the world, feel free to join

(01:12):
and participate. We'll take phone calls beginning after nine o'clock
with our guest. Tonight, we're going to talk about the
legislature in Massachusetts maybe getting serious finally and banning cell
phone usage by students in high schools or in all
schools here in Massachusetts. We'll talk about the state senator
about that, and then later on I'm going to talk
about the standoff that occurred between the presidents of the

(01:35):
United States and Columbia over the weekend, and it looks
as if the President of Columbia came to came to
his senses and caved on that. We'll talk about that
at ten. But first off, did the earth move for
you today? I was asked that question by a friend
of mine today and I smiled, No. I was not

(01:56):
impacted by the earthquake off the coast of York, but
I know that area of New England very well. And
with me now is a guest that I don't I
guess I haven't talked to in about twenty or so years.
Boston College professor John Ebel with the Western Observatory, who
monitors all of these movements. Professor, welcome to Night's side.

(02:22):
For the first time, and nice. Nice to renew our
acquaintance of many years ago.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yes, indeed it was an earthquake a long time ago,
now that I had the pleasure of medium.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
I think it was early in the morning, if I recall.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
It was, Yes, Yes, we both got roused to the
observatory about something like two in the morning, and we
were both a little bit bleary.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
I would say, yeah, I was working the morning shift,
but that was one of the more the earlier morning
morning assignments that I was. I was literally I wasn't
shaken out of bed by the earthquake, but I would
have been shaken out of by an overnight a phone
call from the overnight producer at the time, whoever that
wonderful person was. So this today it generated a lot

(03:11):
of publicity. I was watching the noon newscasts on Channel
five and also Channel four, switching back and forth. You
got a lot of time on television today. Where were
you when the earth moved?

Speaker 3 (03:27):
I was actually at the observatory, sitting in my office
working on my computer. I don't think it felt it,
but I felt it. But I remember at one point
just wondering, I wonder if there was just an earthquake.
And then I didn't think anything of it because I
didn't feel anything. It was more like just a little
sound or something that I may have picked up if
I was concentrating on my works. I didn't pay attention.

(03:48):
And then about I don't know, a few minutes later,
I got a text from a friend at Framingham State
and she said, was there just an earthquake? And then
I checked the records and boy, there was an earthquake.
And then the emails and telephone calls started coming.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
In, so I know what it registered initially at full
point one. Then it got downgraded a little bit. That's
that's a pretty good size quake. But that's since it
was offshore, probably it's not going to do too much damage.
I watched the newscast tonight on Channel five and Channel four,
and yeah, obviously people closer to York Maine felt it

(04:25):
and heard it. But how significant is this and what
does it tell us? It doesn't tell us that California
is going to slide into the ocean, obviously.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Well, what I like to tell people is it's a
reminder that we also live in earthquake country, just as
they do in California. The big difference between the earthquakes
here in New England and the earthquakes in California is
what they get in one year in terms of earthquake
activity in California, we have to wait one hundred years
to get the same number of earthquakes here in New England.

(04:58):
So the earthquake activity plays itself out at a much
slower rate than it doesn't in California, and that that
helps us because we just don't have as many damaging
earthquakes in any you know, year, or or century or
or or any time period compared to California.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Okay, so let me ask you the thousand dollars question
at least, and that is why are we so lucky
we have an ocean in a coastline and California is
so unlucky in terms of earthquakes. I'm sure it's a
complicated answer, but uh, is California like earthquakes central for
the entire world or are there other areas of the

(05:36):
world that are well, we hear these earthquakes in the
Middle East that are calamitous because its entire cities that
that that get knocked over. Is it just different parts
of the world. It just so happens to be where
you live. Is that? What's the what's the explanation?

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, I mean, in a very rough way, that's it.
Most of the world's earthquakes, nine twenty percent of them
occur at the boundaries between two tectonic plates. California is
at the boundary between the North American Plate and the
Pacific Ocean Plate. In fact, Los Angeles technically is on

(06:15):
the Pacific Ocean Plate because it's west of the San
Andreas Fault. So when I lived in California and I
would drive into the Los Angeles area, I knew where
the San Andrea's fault was, and I would think to
myself as I crossed the fault, Welcome to the Welcome
to the Pacific Plate. Here in Boston. Here in Boston,
we're on the edge of the continent, or we're actually

(06:37):
in the middle of the North American tectonic plate, because
the eastern boundary of the North American Plate is actually
in the center of the Atlantic Ocean. We are spreading
away from Europe and Africa, and at a rate of
about an inch or two per year, and the spreading

(06:57):
is occurring right in the center of the Atlantic, at
what we called the mid Atlantic Ridge. So every year,
for instance, we get a couple of inches farther from Ireland,
for example. So I tell my friends who have you know,
Irish connections and want to go back to Ireland, better
go now because next year is going to be farthest.
So the tickets are going to cost more.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, And I've since that. The last time I flew there,
it seemed like a longer flight. Only kidding, only kidding. Uh, Okay,
So is the central part of the America. They get
tornadoes and they get some pretty nasty weather, but I
guess they're a little immune to earthquakes in in the
central in Central Falls.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Oh. Just the opposite, uh. In the in the central
United States, between southern Missouri and Arkansas on one side
and Tennessee and Kentucky on the other side, is what's
called the New Madrid Seismic Zone, which had we think

(08:00):
we're the largest earthquakes away from plate boundaries known historically
about magnitude seven and a half for the largest largest earthquakes,
and those earthquakes were felt all the way to the
East coast.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
WHOA, okay, well then we're kind of okay. And basically,
as I understood it today, that was one of the
plates was kind of sliding underneath one of the others.
Is that some earth that's what was going on out
there under the water. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Basically what's happening is we're moving away from Europe and Africa,
so we're being pushed toward the west at the eastern
plate boundary you go out to California. In California is
pushing against the Pacific Ocean plate. So what that's doing
is that's catching the entire middle of the North American Plate,

(08:52):
including where we live, in a squeezing motion. Just as
if you were to put a clay brick into a
vice and slowly turn the crank on device to increase
the pressure. You can't do that forever until the brick breaks,
and it's doing that to relieve the pressure. The place
where it breaks, the crack is what we would call

(09:12):
a fault, and we have those all the time here
in the middle of the North American Plate. And that's
what happened this morning.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Professor is always great to talk to you. We haven't
covered this in the level or depth that i'd like to,
and I'd like to give our listeners some night a
chance to join us and ask questions of someone I
EU who knows this stuff cold. Could I guess you
to come back some night and one of the later
hours at nine or ten and take phone calls from listeners.

(09:44):
These these these interviews in this hour are just in
many cases much too brief. If I could, if I
could prevail upon you to return at some point, if
not this week, next week, when this is fashioned people's mind,
I'd appreciate it, and I know my listeners would as well.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
I would be happy to be And to me, it's
actually an important part of my work educating people about earthquakes,
because when the next earthquake occurs that's strong enough that
it might be damaging, it's important for me to tell
people what's going to happen, what to expect, how to
keep themselves safe from the earthquakes.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Well, thank you very much. I will look forward to
chatting with you at some point in the next a
week to ten days something like that. My producer will
get in touch with you, okay. Professor John Ebel, Boston College,
a senior research scientist at the Western Observatory focusing on earthquakes.
Thanks so much, professor, great to talk again. We can't

(10:41):
let twenty years go by before we talk. We'll talk
within a matter of hopefully just a few days. Thanks
so much.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Okay, sounds good, Thank you much.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
When we get back, we're going to talk about a
simple concept, but it's not that simple, right sizing your life.
We will talk with Marnie Jamison about that very topic,
and I suspect many of you can anticipate what we
will be discussing back on Nightside right after this.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Would like to welcome Marnie Jamison. She's an author and
home and lifestyle columnist. Marnie Jamison, Welcome to Nightside.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
So we are going to talk about the headline that
I have in front of me says, right side today
to create your best life tomorrow. I kind of suspect
I know what you're talking about, but I'd like to
hear it from you directly. What exactly do we right
size today which creates our best life tomorrow?

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Well, I wrote this book after writing a couple books
on downsizing which just filt sort of depressing, and I thought, ye, yes, right,
it is not downsizing, it's right sizing, and I think
the catch is this, the ideal home in the ideal place,
with the ideal stuff is what we all should seek

(12:10):
to strive for, and it changes with our stage in life,
but we don't keep up. So I really want people
have evolved and think about you know, you're not if
you're still living in the house that you bought because
it was close to the kids' school and close to
a job that you no longer have, and the kids
are off on their own lives, they're off to college.

(12:33):
You know, maybe you need to rethink where you're living
and why and should you live somewhere else? And then
the hitch van is is your stuff holding you back?
Because so many people go, oh, you know, it's just
too much trouble. I've got too much stuff. You know,
I'm never okay.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Move Okay, I'm a too much stuff guy, all right?
Long time okay journalist, TV reporter here in Boston thirty
one years, eighteen years as a talk show host. I
had paper records from the nineteen seventies, eighties, nineties. I
have stuff, Okay. I'm not a packweb Okay, I know

(13:10):
where it is. It's in file cabinets. My wife keeps
screaming to me, get rid of the file cabinets. Yeah, stuff,
I have some stuff over my life that you know,
I have kept, often for sentimental reasons. How do you
do that? How do you say okay to whatever? You know?
You're you know stuff? It's tough, I think, ye. How

(13:35):
do you condition me convince me?

Speaker 4 (13:40):
All right? Well there are I have a lot of
things to tell you, but let's start with this. I
think that onces to talk about why this matters, and
it does so for so many people. For some people
it's not their papers, but it may be their photographs
or or even clothing or you know, dishes from their grandmother.
But here's the thing. If we all this stuff makes

(14:00):
us feel like we matter in our lives matter, and
our history matters, and we've done things and we've been places.
But guess what you've done? All that's true even if
you don't have this stuff. You've been places, you've done things,
you had loving relationships, you have good memories, and you
don't need to keep the file tabinet to prove it.

(14:21):
So that's the first thing is is make you know
your secret is a scanner. You need to make you know.
Sport through your papers, figure out what's really necessary to
keep and scan it into a into a computer and
to described it will really minimize the amount of papers
that you're you're holding onto.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Okay, my question is this, I know a little bit
about scanners you're talking about that's like hours and hours days.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
And hire an intern. Yeah, you get an intern higher someone. Yeah,
and they're going to be better at it than you
for sure. What do you do will help you edit?

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah? What about your Hell well, I got to edit
my stuff. The intern con editor stuff. The intern doesn't know.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
You've got to edit.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
I got to do the editing front. Okay. So then
the question is what do you do with the videotapes?
The videotapes of your kids the first Christmas? I mean,
I have I'm looking across the room here at dozens
of videotapes. I have no idea what's on them. I
hope that they still will work. They're like, you know,
half inch, three quarter range or whatever. Old. So what

(15:29):
do you do?

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Scan my photos dot com? I'm telling you, scan my
photos dot com. My friend Mitch Goldstone has done the
scan videos. Will he will migrat it into the digital age.
He will take care of all of it. He's done
billions of people's photos, videos and never lost anything. He's
a great guy. Scan my photos dot com.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
What's his name?

Speaker 4 (15:52):
His name is what Mitch Goldstone. He's the owner of
scan my photos dot com. Tell him, Marnie Amuson sent you.
We're long time, but he is. He has taken care
of all my photos. He has scanned them all. They
are now on one one DVD and we can migrate
them forward and they're in the cloud. So it's a
big fire happened. He's based in Coast and Mason, but

(16:19):
I'm in Florida and I send my stuff to him.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
What do you do? Load your stuff up on a
truck and.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Well you'll actually, you know, I don't know how he
handles videos per se, but you us. You just put
them in a box and sent it to them and
you put posts on which ones. He will scan the
post it too and tell you this is nineteen seventy seven.
You interview with you know, somebody's famous and migrated.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I have interviews with just about every president never never
mind governors and senators and stuff.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, yeah, you need digital migration. There's also something Dan
called it. There are organizers, right, and there's somebody who's
there's a special called digital organizing. And if you look
up organizers, professional organizers, and digital organizers, that sounds like
what could be very helpful to you. They can make

(17:12):
short work out of all of your stuff. But let's
get back to why you have so much stuff and
you really really want to break it down to These
are my three favorite words in this realm. Need, use, love,
Do I need it? Do I use it? Do I
love it? If you can't answer yes to at least
one of those questions, you really need to think about
letting go.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yep, no, I hear you, Martie, give us the book
because I got to go buy the book. It's called
the name of give us the name. The name of
the book is White Size Today.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
That's my latest book. I have seven books, but the
latest one that came out last year, Right Size Today,
for your Best Life Tomorrow. And it takes you from
where do you live now?

Speaker 3 (17:55):
And why?

Speaker 4 (17:56):
And where should you live? And how can you get there?
So it talks about where you should live and there's
questions and exercises and then my favorite part of the
book is the last third of the book, which what
do you live with, because once you get that perfect
size house in the perfect location, you don't want to
fill it with a bunch of your clutter. So it

(18:17):
talks about how to pick the perfect items for every
room in the house so you buy quality and not quantity.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Well sounds great, Marnie Jamison. So it's m A. R.
N I Jamison, like the whiskey or the scotch. I'm
not a Jacus.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Yeah I wish. I wish that were my grandfather, but
it's not. But we do still our names. Name's j A. M. E.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
S O. When right Size today to create your best
life tomorrow. It's available at Amazon and.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Everywhere, yes, everywhere, everywhere that sells books.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Well, that is great. I thank you, and I didn't
mean to personalize it, but I'm in that age category
where you have to think to yourself, hey, yeah, can't
take it with you, but you certainly don't want to
lose it for so you've helped me, Marny, and I
think you've helped a lot of my listeners as well.
Thank you very very much.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
You're welcome. You don't want to leave a mess to
your kids, and no one's going to take care of
it as well as you will. So if you can
organize and categorize and make some sense out of it,
you'll be doing everyone a big favor.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Sounds great, Thanks Marni, we'll talk again.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Thank you, Dan, Take care all right.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
We have a little bit of a snow event coming
tomorrow morning during the morning commute. Of course, we had
that bus accident that took down some poles and wires
today in East Boston en Route one A, which costs
quite a traffic jam. Well problem tomorrow morning. We will
be talking with an acuweather meteorologist to figure out exactly

(19:51):
exactly how tomorrow will go, and also another event probably
about twenty four hours later. So stay tuned all of you,
particularly who will be on the road tomorrow morning for
the morning commute. My name is Dan Ray, coming back
on Nightside.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Well weather fans, we have a little bit of a
snow event tomorrow morning, I believe, but who am I
to predict that? We have with us Matt benz Aki,
weather meteorologist. Matt, it's been kind of a quiet winter
so far, but we're gonna have a little activity tomorrow
timed perfectly for the morning commute. It sounds like, how

(20:36):
are you tonight? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (20:37):
I'm doing all right? How are you doing?

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Probably doing better than most of the drivers are gonna
be doing about a third tomorrow morning. Us what's going on?
And we got two we got two potential events I
guess in the next thirty six or forty eight hours.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
Right, Yeah, that's right. What we have are several clippers.
These are fast moving storms that sweep across basically from
the Great Lag to New England, and they're kind of
quick hitting systems. They're in and out of here really quickly.
But with these specific clippers, they have what's called an
Arctic coal front. You remember that cold that we saw
week and a half ago, that really cold stuff, Well
that's just to our north and we're not really going

(21:15):
to get into that core of the cold, but we're
kind of straddling the edge of it. And with each
of these cold fronts that come through, they could touch
off snow smalls. These are heavier bursts of snow that
can happen suddenly and unfortunately just timed out perfectly tomorrow
and again for Wednesday for our commutes. Now, if there's
any good news tomorrow, it may come a little bit
after the morning commute, so hopefully we can get that

(21:37):
over and done with and not have any issues out there.
But what does look like? We could see a couple
of snowshowers working their way through the Boston area mid
morning through the midday tomorrow. And you may say it's
just a snowshower, but the snow that these things produce heavy,
quick hitters, not necessarily a lot of snow, but just
well the visibility that you see that drops so quickly

(21:58):
with these it's what makes them so dangerous.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, this is this is sort of like if you
put it in a in a sports reference, sort of
like the the Mike Tyson of snowstorms. I mean, you know,
you gotta feel it.

Speaker 5 (22:15):
Quickly exactly. And for any Star Wars fans out there,
you're making the jump to light speed and that's the
snow flying past. You have, just the snow streaks that'll
be out there.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
It comes to what happens Wednesday morning, A little more
serious potential on Wednesday. Yeah, it looks like a little
bit steadier snow. So tomorrow it's more of these snow squalls,
something that's gonna last for five minutes and it's out
of here, but we are watching a more robust clipper
that moves in here tomorrow night and into Wednesday. Now,
this will have event initially spread over just some gradual

(22:46):
white snow here across much of the Greater Boston area,
much of the region, and that could put down an
inch or two, maybe three inches of snow my Wednesday morning.
And that's of course a little bit more of a
concern for the morning commute on Wednesday, where we could
see slippery and snow covered roads to start the day. Now,
when you talked about this Arctic blast, I mean, your

(23:06):
weather guys have a million words for it. They used
to call it the Montreal Express thirty years ago or whatever.
There was another word it was that that you guys
used to talk about. There was like this vortex that
came down from Canada. Yeah, remember what we tex What's
what's the polar vortext?

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah. And then I think there was even another name
to the polar vortex.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
Oh I'm not up with my hip names these days.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Well, it was even a stranger name, and it was like,
whoa what are we talking about here? It was scary
when you talked about this this storm as I understand
it looking at the weather forecast tonight actually emanates from
southern California. This is part of this is the and
again you know the weather guy, I'm not, but is
this not part of the storm that hit southern California

(23:57):
with wings?

Speaker 5 (23:59):
Eventually we will get to that storm. That one is
still in southern California right now. What we are seeing
is coming out of the Northern Rocky Mountains and out
of the Canadian Rockies. That's so where these couple of
pieces of energy will be coming from. Eventually, though, we
will be looking at a storm here later this week,
and that's the one that we'll keep a close eye on.
Whether it's going to be snow or rain or something

(24:20):
in between here for the Boston area. But that could
be a mess here later this week. And that's the
one that is now moving through southern California now and
into the desert southwest. Yeah, it's kind of a different entity,
but that will impact us later in the week.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
That's the one that the weather folks were kind of
alluding to as maybe Friday.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
Yeah, Friday Friday into Friday night is a time period
for that, and we're kind of watching is this going
to be a big snow event or is it going
to be a big rain event for us? If any
snow lovers out there, obviously you're rooting for the snow,
But at this point it looks like temperters rebound fairly
quickly by Friday. We're back into the mid forties by
Friday afternoon, so it seems likely that we probably see

(25:02):
some sort of a mix or just rain here in
the Boston area for Friday afternoon. But as we head
into Friday night, can it get cold nothing, we'll switch
over to snow. That's a big question right now, and
that's what we'll have to tease out of the forecast
over the next day or so.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Matthew the best. Hey, I appreciate you taking the time tonight.
This has been just the last question. This has been
kind of a quiet winter for us in terms of
snow correct.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
Absolutely, Yeah. For the season, twelve and a half inches
so far in Boston averages twenty two, so we're already
below average, and just for this month six eight inches
officially at logan. Typically we'd have over a foot of
snow at this point. So yeah, it's no kidding. It
has been a dry winter with regards to snow so far.
Part of the reason for that, it's just been the cold.

(25:48):
It suppresses storm track. You remember those couple of storms
that went through Atlanta and New Orleans. That's where the
storm track has been here for the last month, and
that's why we haven't seen much for snow.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
So twelve inches normally twenty two where you're saying, normally
we would have twenty two at this point at the
end of January, or twenty two for the whole winter.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
No twenty two for the end as from November through
the end of January, we'd have twenty two inches of
snow and we're only at twelve and a half right now,
so just under half the amount of where we should
be right now, and most of that snowfell this month,
but it certainly doesn't seem like it at least as
of late for.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
The snow lovers. I just want to remind people of
the big storms of January and February of twenty fifteen,
nine years ago, when we had no snow up until
like the middle of January and then it didn't stop snowing.
We were around at that point back in twenty fourteen,
the winter twenty fourteen twenty fifteen.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
I'm not sure if we're necessarily at that point just yet.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
We're Oh no, no, no, I'm not suggesting. Oh god, no,
I hope not. We had we had like one hundred
inches of snow from the middle of January to the
first of March.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
It just kept showing. Yes, I do remember that. Yeah,
it was a we just turned on the light switch
and here came the snow. And it was every weekend.
And I've said this before.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
I remember being out on a flat roof that I
climbed out of like a knucklehead, out of a window,
and all of a sudden I was up to my
armpits in snow and it was like, well, this isn't
a good idea. I had a shovel in my hand,
but there was nowhere to move. I had all I
could do to climb back in the window. I thought
they'd find me sometime in June. Yeah, so, yeah, I

(27:31):
don't want to jinx it, but remember that's always a
possibility here in New England. That fends.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
Yeah, thanks so much, yeah, thanks, yeah, thank you for
having me.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Well, I'm sure we'll probably get back to you maybe
one more time. At least this work maybe even later
this week. We'll see. Thanks, Buddy, I appreciate very much,
Thank you much. Yeah, Bet, Matt is a great weather forecast.
Res also a guy who you can actually talk to.
He's He's excellent. I'm going to talk to an old friend,
Debbie Colton. Coming up tomorrow or today rather is Holocaust
Rememberance Day. It was eighty years ago today that Ouschwitz

(28:07):
was liberated by Allied troops, and it's a day we
must never forget. Going to be talking with Debbie Colton
coming right up right after this on Nightside.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Now back to Dan Way Live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Today is the eightieth anniversary of the liberation of the
Ouschwitz concentration Camp. Today is Holocaust Remembrance Day. This is
eighty years, eighty years ago today that this nightmare ended,
but anti Semitism continues even in our community, and that's

(28:51):
one of the reasons we must never forget. With me
is a longtime friend, Debbie Colton, and we're going to
talk about the significance of Holocaust Remembrance Dad. It should
be obvious, Debbie, but I'm afraid that the Holocaust is
not being taught in schools as it once was. And
I'm afraid that as time goes on and the survivors

(29:15):
pass on, our collective memory of this horrific time and
history is being forgotten. How are you tonight, Debbie? Happy?

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Dan?

Speaker 6 (29:27):
I am well, and thank you. I am and thank
you for having me on. I hope you're well too.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yep, doing great, And I just think it's important. You know, again,
we all remember Pearl Harbor, the day that we got
dragged into World War One. We remember all our holidays,
but that's why it's important for us to just reflect
on this today. I've been to Auschwitz. I believe you

(29:56):
have as well. I have. Every American you should walk
those that path, and it's been preserved, and it's preserved
so we never forget. Are we losing? Are we losing
our collective memory about this?

Speaker 6 (30:15):
We are, Dan, and the surveys are bearing this out
really sadly. Auschwitz has become the symbol of what humanity
is capable of, right people. Everyday people built it, they
committed the crimes there, and these weren't aliens from out
of space who came and did it. So that's what
Auschwitz represents, and the Holocaust is that stock reminder of

(30:41):
what can happen when anti Semitism and any kind of
hatred goes unchecked. So that's why it's extremely important to
remember daylight today International Holocaust Remembrance Day. It's a time
to remember the victims of the Holocaust, and it's a
time to recommit ourselves to action to ensure never happens again.

(31:02):
You know, you talked about do you want to ask
me a question?

Speaker 2 (31:05):
No, no, no, no, I'm just I'm wincing, because, yeah,
we it can never happen again. But you just see
that you hear some of the echoes of these same
similar voices and attitudes.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Go ahead, I interrupted, you dedicates, Yeah, no, no, And
you're right.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
You know, it's anti Semitism is going in the wrong
direction across the globe, around our country and even here
in Massachusetts, and even bring it down further into local communities.
Antisemitism it's at all time high in the United States,
according to the ADL. Deeply troubling is the ADL's recent

(31:44):
finding that nearly fifty percent of adults across the globe
harbored deeply entrenched anti Semitic attitudes. Fifty percent of billions
of people you know, there were.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Severity if it was fifteen percent, never mind fifty or
if it was five percent, never mind.

Speaker 6 (32:02):
Right fifty percent, And we are seeing this manifestation locally.
Anti Semitism in Massachusetts has increased two hundred five percent,
and sadly, I think in our state we have gone
from six dranking sixth in the country to fifth in
the country. And it's so alarming that anti Semitism and

(32:26):
K twelve schools is up one hundred thirty five percent
K twelve schools.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
I was told something the other day which shocked me
and which I was unaware of, And I'd love to
know if you had heard this, that in the wake
of the liberation of the camp, at the camp lived,
you know, German officers and German soldiers, and some of

(32:54):
them were there at the camp with their families, with
their yeah, their wives and their children. And I'm told
that those German officers in many cases basically gave cyanide
pills to their families so they would they would commit
suicide before the Allied troops arrived, and and of course

(33:18):
took their own lives as well. Is that true or
is that an urban myth?

Speaker 6 (33:25):
I don't know. Dan, I'm sorry, I don't know that
if it's.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
True or as someone who whoo who understands it, and
I believe that well, it's the first time I saw
I heard that story and it's uh and and I
have every reason to believe that it was true that
they were that there were German officers who were living
at that camp with their families who once who was
a parent, that all was lost from their perspective, their

(33:51):
families as as a group committed suicide through the use
of cyanaid pills. What is thatt.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
It's true and just you know, when we think about
what we want our children to learn, and so much
of the work that we do at Lapin Foundation around
Holocaust and anti Semitism education is to feel the other's pain.
It's just not numbers and dates and facts, right, these
were lives that were lost in horrible ways and that

(34:24):
people did this to each other. And if we lose
that feeling of empathy, that feeling of humanity, of being
responsible one for the other, it's not good. It's not
good for humanity the direction this is going in.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Are there some groups, Debbie, that you could recommend to
my listeners that they might want to be aware of again,
to do something on it today to Obviously we know
we're familiar with the Anti Defamation League, but what are
some of the other groups that you've.

Speaker 6 (34:59):
Been in Sure, sure there are wonderful groups, you know
promoting Holocaust education, as you said, the ADL lap And Foundation.
Of course, families can go on look at films here, survivors,
The show Off Foundation says eight. The United States Holocaust

(35:19):
Memorial Museum another excellent source facing history. Stand with us.
There's not a lack of resources to learn. When you
think about six million lives lost right over a course
of twelve years. That's a big piece of history and
so much to learn. So if we can each commit

(35:40):
ourselves to learning a little bit, to remembering, to pausing
on the day, and then to acting to use it,
to act to make tomorrow better than today, was that
that can help us move in the direction we should
go in.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Debby Cultis, thanks very much for joining us tonight. Obviously,
it's a serious subject of very serious subjects, very serious
subject and again the phrase never forget, never again all
of us, it must be in place and in our minds,
whether we happen to be Jewish or simply a human being.
I think every human being should feel that way. Debbie

(36:17):
is always.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
Thank you so much, Thank you so much. Take care.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
When we get back, we're going to talk about a
more current day problem, and that is cell phones and
cell phones interfering with kids here in Massachusetts and elsewhere
with their education. And we will talk about a legislative
effort here in Massachusetts actually ban the use of cell
phones while students are in schools here in Massachusetts, not

(36:47):
only in high school, but junior high school and also
elementary school. We'll be back on Nightside right after the
news at nine o'clock
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