September 9, 2025 • 39 mins
8:05PM: State Treasurer’s office seeks to return 6 Purple Hearts found in unclaimed safe deposit boxes.
Guest: Deb Goldberg – MA State Treasurer
8:15PM: New Study Reveals Dusky Sharks Preying on Seals for the First Time Off the Coast of Nantucket. What are dusky sharks?
Guest: John Chisholm - Adjunct Scientist with the New England Aquarium
8:30PM: Things only people from New England say or do!
Guest: Stacy Milbouer – Reporter for The Granite Post
8:45PM: 4 types of bad bosses — and how to work with each one
Guest: Brandy Schade - workplace expert and Gallup-Certified Executive Leadership Performance Consultant
Guest: Deb Goldberg – MA State Treasurer
8:15PM: New Study Reveals Dusky Sharks Preying on Seals for the First Time Off the Coast of Nantucket. What are dusky sharks?
Guest: John Chisholm - Adjunct Scientist with the New England Aquarium
8:30PM: Things only people from New England say or do!
Guest: Stacy Milbouer – Reporter for The Granite Post
8:45PM: 4 types of bad bosses — and how to work with each one
Guest: Brandy Schade - workplace expert and Gallup-Certified Executive Leadership Performance Consultant
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nice with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Ezy Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Good evening, Night Side Nation. My name is Dan Ray,
and I am here every Monday through Friday night to
take a little four hour ride through the evening with you,
right up just to the cusp of midnight. We have
some interesting topics tonight and some interesting guests coming up.
Rob Brooks is off tonight, and we have Dan Cantano
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staffing the production room back at Broadcast headquarters. But without
any further ado, we're going to get right into our
first guest here during the eight o'clock hours. You know,
no phone calls during the eight o'clock hour. There's a
four different topics. I think you'll be interested in all
of them. We'll learn about dusky sharks, why they're eating seals.
I guess just what dusky sharks do. Going to speak
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with a writer from New Hampshire tell us about sixteen
things us New England do say or do that maybe
we should, maybe we should. And then we'll talk with
a writer about four types of bad bosses. Well, one
good boss is the treasurer, State Treasurer and Receiver General
here in Massachusetts, Deb Goldberg, who is a very able
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successor to Robert Quentin Crane, a great state treasurer in
the mid to late twentieth century. Treasure Goldberg, you're keeping
the office running.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I hope right, absolutely, Dan, you know I am.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Look. I saw an article in the Boston Globe. I
think it was recently, might have been a Sunday. I
was a piece written by Nick Stoiko about Europe. Office
came into possession of six six medals for US military
veterans who earned those medals purple hearts, which absolute had
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been left in a ten I guess would be one
way to describe it, safe deposit boxes before we go
to and I guess we have at least one of
the medals already returned. We'll get to that in a moment.
But how is it that the Commonwealth of Massachusetts are
more importantly your department of what's called abandoned property comes
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into possession not only of bank accounts that are inactive
for a certain period of time, but also safe deposit boxes.
I think the public needs a little bit of our
fresher on how this system works.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So in our office, we have a division called the
Unclaimed Property Division. And as you know, because we so
many people talk about it. It's you know, mass money
dot gov. And you know, you see the ads, you
hear the ads, and it's because we actively, three hundred
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and sixty five days a year are trying to reconnect
people with their money. In fact, two weeks ago, I
delivered to the Jimmy Fund almost eight hundred thousand dollars
of lost money they had. It wasn't the state giving
the money. It was literally unclaim funds of theirs. And
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I delivered it during their phonus on at Fenway. So
we really, I myself have received letters in the mail
saying if we sent you a check and it hasn't
been deposited yet, if you haven't gotten this check, please
you know, call us. Otherwise we have to notify the
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Unclaimed Property Division. And I thought you're going to not
if I'm me about me. But in terms of these
purple hearts, they the background on safe deposit boxes that
after eight years of a bank having one and no
owner comes in and tries to you know, open the box,
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look in the box, or and they have not been
responding to letters that at that point the contents are
turned over to our office. The banks drill the box
open after one year of nonpayment. You know, you have
to pay annually, but they oversee they hold the contents
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for seven years. This is actually the law. And then
they turned it over to us, and so we came
in possession of six purple hearts and we could not
just let them sit there. What we often do with
safe deposit box contents is we've had we've had traveling
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road shows where literally we go across the Commonwealth and
display all sorts of items that we have in our possession,
hoping that someone will recognize that as a family heirloom
and the light. But in terms of these, we really
wanted to take a very aggressive stance to get them,
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find out who they belong, to get some history, try
to find members of the family. We've been very fortunate
that press all over the state have been writing articles
trying to help us find these people. And at this
point today even I returned one to the grandson of
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one of the recipients, and you can ask me more
about that in a little bit. And we've tracked down
families for quite a number of the other ones, and
there's only one that has not been claimed that we
have not been able to find. The person and the
community that we lived in. We've talked to that local paper.
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They're trying to get the word out, and so that's
where we are with those six purple hearts.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
The one that you returned to the family. I believe
it's Thomas Flynn, who was, yes, a World War One
veteran from Worcester as a sergeant in Company G of
the one hundred and first Infantry, and his purple heart
is engraved with his name. He yeah, I guess, was
a Worcester firefighter.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
So he's a wester firefighter and his daughter is still living.
His wife had put it in a safety deposit box.
You should see it. It looks like new and I'm having
the chills telling you about it now. But when I
was there today with his grandson, I wanted to deliver
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it to his daughter. I was in Worcester last week.
I have the funniest story to go with this. She's
eighty nine years old and she was scheduled to go
to the dentist when I was supposed to come by
and her son said, mom scheduled. The dentist said no, no, no,
I can't do that. He's hard to get an appointment with.
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I said to him today, I would have waited till
she was done with the dentist, but I told him,
tell her I will come out and visit her, because,
as you know, I'm in Worcester, you know, very often.
But so her son said he would come to the
State House. And it was tremendous and emotional, really emotional.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I wanted so the four I'm going to read the
other names and I want to figure out which one
needs more more publicity. Have you located a family of
Joseph Ruda. He's the World War Two staff sergeant from
the that.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Is the one we are having challenges with. He's from
the southern part of the state. As you know, the
new Bedford newspaper interviewed me. They did a big story
on it, and really ask people, if you know him,
you know his family members, you know anyone, please get
in touch and if anyone on the air tonight knows
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Joseph Aruda or his daughter Susan Santos, please have them
call our office. Can I give a phone number?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Sure? Or what they could also do which you might
well might anyone who would know him, Why don't you
give your phone number? If anybody misses that phone number.
If they're driving in a car, they can just call
the control you know, our showroom, our show okay at
six one seven, two, five, four, ten thirty. We'll get
that information to you. But why don't you put the
number that you would like them to call. I'm just
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vamping for a little time for you here, okay, Madam Trudea.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
So the number. The number is six one seven three
six seven zero four zero zero. And if you're driving
and can't make that call, please call Dan Ray and
he will connect you to us.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Absolutely so, But again, I just want to give a
little bit more bio real quickly on him. Here. He
was a World War Two staff sergeant, as was my dad,
by the way, same rank, same war. He's from New Bedford,
South Dartmouth or Ruta. Served in the Asiatic Pacific theater
of operations in the one hundred and twenty ninth Infantry Regiment.
He passed in nineteen ninety eight. His daughters are the
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owners of the safe deposit box. The box went unclaimed
in twenty eleven was turned over to the Treasury in
twenty nineteen. His discharge papers are also in the box.
I think you'll find him, madam treasurer let us mention
the four that you now have a good lead on
James Mooney, he was with the Marines during the Vietnam War.
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You think you're going to be okay with him or
do we need more information?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, we are in good shape with the with the others, Yes,
the four are in the process of being claimed.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
There was. I just want to mention their names because
the name should be mentioned. Robert Beoquist. I'm hoping I'm
pronouncing that correctly. Boquid born in Stoneham, served in the
Army during the Korean War, and later lived in Rutland, Massachusetts.
That's not a big town. He died in two thousand
and three, and his son, who owned the safe deposit box,
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died in twenty sixteen. So if anyone knows in Rutland
or Stoneham, any family members of Robert Bequist boqu Ist,
do you have a lead on him? Says you said
you had something on.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
All four of them, right, We think, yes, we have
a lead on that. We have a lead on all
of them except for Joe Aruda.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Okay, I want to come back to it, and I
just want to acknowledge Edward McCabe World War two veteran
from forty one to forty five, born in Worcester, later
lived in Framingham. Died in nineteen eighty two. His two
children owned the safe deposit box. Both have since died.
His purple heart is also engraved. You've got to lead
there and last, but not least, WILLIAMS. Bemus was killed
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in action during World War Two. The State Treasurers said
it believed this purple heart was in a fire in
the family's home in the nineteen sixties. The safe deposit
box was owned by his nephew, and you've got to
lead on that as well.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yes, we do.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
That's great work. Look, I am a big admirer of
what you do. Your term in office has been so successful.
You've done a great job as treasure But I think
this has to have been one of the most important
tasks of your career as a treasurer to be able.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
To reply, well, I don't disagree when people ask me
why is this so important to me? You know, I
said to someone last week, we lived in such a
crazy world. Yet for these people, they were focused on
on their duty and their call to public service. For
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them willing to risk everything in order to ensure that
the rest of us are safe to defend our democracy,
to do it without question. If you could have heard
Tom Bingham today, the grandson talking about his grandfather. His
grandfather didn't want to talk about it. This was just
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understood that this is what you did for your family
and for your country, and was very modest about this.
And then look after he was gassed in World War One,
he was wounded, he saved others and then what did
he do. He came back to the city of Worcester
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and he was a firefighter doing the same thing all
over again. These are the people who deserve honor and respect,
and so this could have been a more really truly
emotional undertaking, not just for me, but for the people
who work in my unclaimed property division.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I'm going to say you and your staff have given
these men, even though they have passed, the honor and
respect that they certainly deserve.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Out of treasure. I've got another guest waiting in the
wings here. I love talking to you. You know that
this was really great work, and you know, just thank
you for this, and thank you for looking after the
property that some of us occasionally lose sight off. Because
you've returned.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Dan, thank you for helping me amplify the message and
hopefully we will find Joe Rude as relatives and be
able to also connect with them.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Well, five for six, We're going to make it six
for six.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Okay, thank you so much, Dan, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Deb Goldberg, the Treasurer and Receiver General of the Comwalth
of Massachusetts. When we get back, we're going to talk
about dusky sharks. I never knew there was such a
thing as dusky sharks. We will find out all about
them from an adjunct scientist with a New England aquarium,
John Chisholm. Right after this quick break on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Delighted to welcome John Chisholm. He's an adjunct scientist with
a New England aquarium. John, Welcome to Nightside.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
How are you good, Dan, Good to be back talking
to you.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Well. Absolutely, Tonight we're going to talk about dusky sharks.
I didn't even know such a shark existed. What is
a dusky shark?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
So you're not alone. A lot of people, especially with
the white sharks getting most of the attention, a lot
of people don't realize We do have other species of
sharks off from Massachusetts, and the dusky shark is one
of them. It's a large coastal shark likes warm water.
Usually we see them up here this time of year
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in the summertime, when the water gets warm enough and
gets in their comfort zone. We've seen them historically all
the way back to like the nineteenth century, so they've
always been a shark that's you know, been off of Massachusetts.
But we are at the northern limit of their range.
Occasionally they'll straight up to Georgia's Bank, and even some
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have been seen up off of Nova Scotia, but primarily
there south of Massachusetts. In the winter time, they'll you know,
go back down migrate self to stay in that warm water.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
How here, how do they everybody's I think knows the
big big white sharks. Now, okay, but you have seeing
sharks and different types of sharks. Are they just you
are run of the mill shark? And the phrase dusky,
I'm just that has nothing to do with the time
of day. It's spelled d u s k y. Were
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they discovered by something that named doi?
Speaker 5 (16:01):
No? It more it has more to do with their coloration.
You know, they can be dusky grayish to bronze color,
and that's pretty much where the name comes from.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
They enjoy, they must enjoy the buffet that the seals
put out every day out of Montamoe Island.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Well, that's the interesting part about this new study that
we just published is this is the first observation we
have and that's been documented of them actually feeding on
seals off of Nantucket. And we have had a couple
of cases with them feeding on seals off off of
Montamoe and up off and Asset, but yeah, it's it's
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a unique observation. Historically, both fields and duskies did occur here,
so this could have been occurring, you know, years ago
when no one was really documenting this type of stuff.
But what's happened is dusky shark populations have really been
decimated due to fishing pressure and they're often caught and bycatch,
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as by catching other fisheries for tuna and sword fish,
so their numbers have been in big decline. And then
you have the seals which were also pretty much wiped out,
and you know, just handful of the population remained up
in Canadian waters until the Marine Member of Protection Act
in nineteen seventy two. So what we have is now
the seals are recovering and moving south. Dusky shocks have
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been protected for a couple of decades now, so you know,
we're seeing a little bit more of them. And now
they're you know, we're seeing an overlap where the duskies
and the seals meet and we're seeing dusky steed on seals.
But we got to consider that this may have been happening,
you know, years ago before people were paying attention and
both populations were healthy. And now we're getting back to
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those healthy stocks and we're seeing this, you know, relationship
between the duskies and the gray sields.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
It's just interesting how this can evolve. You know, both
species were in trouble, both species were protected, both species
have multiplied, and uh, and now it's and they are,
they're contiguous, They're they're close together. They are I guess
natural enemies. I guess the seals. I'm not a big
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seal guy. I've never ordered sealed even if it was
on the menu, never even think about it. But I
guess the duskies love it.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
And they they love coming up here to the warm
waters and enjoying a buffet this must be interesting for
you to follow these developments because they're not developments that
occur over a period of a couple of weeks or
a couple of months. They they occur slowly but surely
over years, I guess.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Right, yeah, yeah, And this particular case, one of the
other factors that contribut to the discovery were just everyday people,
fishermen and beachgoers that were the first to observe these
predations by duskies on on seals and send them in.
We call it citizen science, and I think a lot
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of people here citizen science and think it's just like
a catchphrase. But this is a great example of how
this discovery came about because of citizen scientists sending in
videos and photos of these shocks steeding on seals that
you know, we investigated and ended up determining there were
dusky sharks, and it's you know.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Well, it just proves that all of us interact and
observe nature. And when you see something that looks interesting,
say something, or Betty yet get a videotape, get the
camera out, get a videotape and send a few folks
At the At the New England Aquarium, John chish, I
sure changed you a minute or two here on time.
I apologize for that. I'll make it up next time.
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I promise, no problem.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Thanks John, you told the story and you told it well.
Thank you so much, my friend. If you be well and
enjoy the rest of the summer in the warmer weather
of September and October. When we get back, when I
talk with a reporter for a news I believe it's
a newspaper. Maybe it's a magazine called The Granite Post.
Sixteen things only people from New England say or do.
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We'll be back right after the news at the bottom
of the air, just running a minute or two late. Sorry, newspeople,
you're on night side with Dan Ray.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I'm telling you Bzy Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
And I should add that is new Arch by Doctor Sell,
Doctor Sell Dental Implant Center. By the way, we have
some fractional results here on the Boston mayors race. Michelle
Wu is out to a lead. She is about sixty
five point nine percent sixty four hundred votes. Joshkraft twenty
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eight hundred votes. Robert Capucci and INGOs de Rosa are
trailing badly. They're into single digits. Clearly the race is
between Wu and Craft, and that's only with about eight
point seven percent of the vote reporting. Now we're going
to move to our next guest, and I am looking
forward to this conversation, Stacy Millbauer. Stacy that I pronounce you?
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Was it close to it at least your last name?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
No, you're right on Dan, all.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Right, Stacey Milbarr. Tell us you're a reporter for the
Granted Post. Granted Post obviously has to be based in
New Hampshire, the Granite State. Is it a magazine, a newspaper,
a quarterly? Tell us what a little bit about.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
The Yes, it's yeah, it's it's a website. It is
on Facebook, it's on all like social media.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I want you to know I had a difficult time
accessing it today, so I have not read your article,
as of course I should have, but I dutifully tried
to access this access it. It would not allow me
in the articles about sixteen things only people from New
England say or do. So let's go through them as
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not you know, don't have to speed dial here, but
let's move through them. Tell us you want to break
them down as did the Saves or the des or
you just want to give it to them in order
give us two of them.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
In I can just you know, say a few. So
I had a subsection of fashion. Our idea of a
winter coat is wearing a flannel over a T shirt. Yes,
forget gloves, those are for weather winds or toddlers. For
many of us, cold weather couture consists of shorts and
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socks with fly flannels.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Okay, that would not be believed that that's okay, you
did say many of us qualified that. Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
My favorite one, and I'm sure you can relate to this,
is I called a thermostatus quo, which is the situation
where your husband won't turn on the heat and us
it's act it has to be November first, even if
it's thirty below zero in October?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Can't it when my kids come home? My adult children,
either the air conditioning goes to about sixty one in
the summer and in the winter they take the thermostat
up to eighty one. And I'd like happy data in
both instances. What else you got.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
So this? You know, I have to say my husband's
of Boston native, and he really gives me, you know,
a lot of input on this. His idea the official
onset of spring has nothing to do with the calendar
or the temperature. It starts when spring training starts with
the Red Sox. Well that when the.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Truck, when the truck leaves Fenway Park, that is one
of the high holy days that they celebrate. Yeah, so
that tells us that that spring is there.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Go right ahead, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
No, No, it has nothing to do with flowers or anything.
It has to do with the Red Sox. Let's see
we this, you know, I think we are again. I
can all relate to this. It doesn't really feel like
you've been to the beach in August unless you're numb
from the waist down when you get out of the water.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, and when when people go in the water and
they'll run in and they'll say, oh, it's so warm,
warm compared to what I mean, the aren't the circle?
You know, for me warm you know, it's warm, like
ninety degrees in a swimming pool. That for me is
a level of comfort, you know. But I see people
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calling to and they come out and they're shivering. But oh,
it's what it was really good. It was. It was
it was invigorating. Yeah, it was more than invigorating. You're
only in there for ten seconds and you had to
get out. Go ahead, I don't mean to interrupt.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Well, I said the same thing. I said. We call
it refreshing. Flat Landers call it torture, yeah, which and
I happen to agree with that. Of course. You know,
you know you're in New England er when you're you're
a Red Sox fan. But you have to hate the
Yankees like this.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
You just have to.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
You don't want to wear a Yankees hat to Fenway Park.
And it's just history here. If if you're a New
England Red Sox fan got to hate the Yankees.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Uh, it goes. It goes just like bacon and eggs
loving the Red Sox. Hey the Yankees, I get it right.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
And then the other way, you know is from New
Englander is there's also like this is this ongoing rivalry
between New York and Boston. It goes way beyond baseball.
It goes like you know, who has the best pizza,
who has the best colleges? And I had to give
it to New York for pizza because I just think,
you know, you can't be New York pizza. Okay, I
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was born there.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
But it's okay. I love pizza anywhere. I'm civil as
that I'm I'm I'm pizza all the time. That would
be if I had to just be limited to one meal,
it would be pizza, pizza and a salad. What else
we got? What about some of the things that we say?
We've hit a lot of the things that we do.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Okay, So the last time I was on your show
is because I wrote an article about what New Englanders say,
and this time I was doing what New England's do.
It's kind of a follow up to.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
My own I'm sorry, Okay. My producer misread me then
because it said sixteen things only people from New England
say or do. Well, you keep going here. We got
a couple more minutes left. You go run ahead? What
else you got? So I want you, Stacy, here's the deal.
I don't want you to leave anything in the bullpen tonight.
Do you know what I'm saying. I mean, I want
you to come out and just give us your best
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shots ahead.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Okay, Well, so here's one like we hate New Englanders
hate when Hollywood tries to make actors talk with a
New England accent and they're not from New England. Oh yeah,
you know, and you know examples of that are Jack
Nicholson and The Departed was not great. Amy Adams and
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The Fighter. She tried, She's a great actress, but it
just it didn't work. You know. I say, stick to
your own like Matt Damon and bed Affleck and Goodwill
Hunting or Mark Wahlberg and The Fighter, or Betty Davis
and anything. These were native New England actors and they
they shouldn't try to fake it. So that was one
of them. Let's see food and drink, Okay, so I
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think again you will probably recognize this. The New England
is worship of the altar of dunks. We don't call
it duncans. We don't call it dunkin donuts. It's dunks.
And you know we just we drink ice coffee all
year round. I call it.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I'm a native New Englander, I call it. I call
it dunkin Donuts. I might quipple with you on that one.
By the way, can I take a quick funny story
about Jack Nicholson. The only time ever Nicholson was one
time I was at a Lakers game and he's sitting
like on the front row and all of that But
when I was a lot younger and he was a
lot younger, I had a nice condo in Boston and
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real estate agent came to me and said, we have
a customer who would like to rent the condo for
a month. And I think they gave me some bizarre
figure like ten thousand dollars, which back in the early
nineteen eighties was a lot of money, not that it's
not a lot of money today. And I said, well,
maybe I'll think about it. But who would that person be?
Jack Nicholson? He was in town shooting something. Nicholson at
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that time had a reputation of like party Central. And
I said, no, thank you very much. Do say hello
to Jack for me, but I'm not letting him anywhere near.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Such a good story though.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Well it would have been a great it would have
been a better story, but I gotta tell you the
damage that could have been done to that condo, into
the roof deck, I didn't even want to imagine. So
tell us how people can get a subscription or how
they can follow you work, Stacy.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Okay, so subscription free, there's nothing, you don't pay anything.
So it appears on a lot of platforms, So granted,
Post has a Facebook page, it has a you know,
you know, Twitter x, you know whatever you call it now, Instagram, Facebook,
and then you can also go onto their actual website, perfect,
(29:20):
perfect and granded Post Courier. Courier is kind of our
bigger company. You know, this is not just well granted
Post is justin New Hampshire, but we have sister publications
around the country and other states.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
There's a big newspaper in Louisville called the Louis Louisville
Courier Journal.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
It's not part of that, no newspaper based. It's really
all online. I'm an old newspaper reporter. Like you know,
I'm low with lanes.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
So okay, I'm not superman. But let me ask you
this lowis, if I can, how long have you lived
in New England?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So I was born in Brooklyn. I had lived up
here since I was in high school.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Okay, I thought if you and your husband had just
gotten up there, I was going to say, wait to
four years from now or now, it's like three years
from now, when all the presidential candidates trudge up there,
you're going to meet them all. They're going to be
every wherever you turn. They're gonna there's going to be
a presidential case. Well but you've done. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I mean it's you know, it's it's like a holiday hit.
There's like there's there's actually primary tourism in New History
where people come from other states in other parts of
the country and they go into hotels and they eat
at the restaurants and they go and watch people, you know,
give stump speeches. It's part of Yeah, that's part of
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New Hampshire culture, which reminds me of my other you know,
you're in New Englander when you are like one degree
of you know of Adam Sandler, Like everybody knows somebody
whose aunt you know, sat at the counter at the
uh absolutely Red Arrow and had coffee with Adam Sandler.
I mean that's like, you know, especially in New Hampshire,
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because right past it.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
It's a right of passage, that's all, you know, It's
a right of passage. And then what I love is
the people who pay the thousand dollars cash. They don't
have to get any supporters thousand dollars cash in the
barrel head in New Hampshire. Only in New Hampshire, your
name is on the ballot on your obituary. You could
say that, you know, Joe Phonebone ran for president in
twenty sixteen, and of course you got the guy up there.
(31:33):
I forget what his name is. It's it's a beautiful
name that walks around wearing the boot on his head.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Oh yeah, no, he's at my when my son was born.
I made sure that he had his picture taken with him. Yeah,
it's it's Vermin Supreme, a fabulous Vermin Supreme Supreme.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
No, absolutely, I haven't quite lost it yet.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah. And it was Randy d like, yeah, there's all
these people, and there was at one point that was
a Westler that was running for usidents here. Yeah, no,
it's it's a trip.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, Vermin Supreme. I still would love to know what
he does for the rest of the time, other than
walking around with a boot in his head.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
But still February.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
All right, Stacey Milbarr, thank you so much, reporter for
the granted post. We'll talk again, Thanks Stacy.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
All right, Dan, bye bye.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Well we come back right after this quick news break.
We're going to talk to four types of bad bosses.
Most of us will probably be able to identify. With
all of those types, we'll be back with Brandy Shade.
Right after this.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Night side with Dan Ray, I'm Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
We joined out by Brandy Shade. She's at workplace Expert
and a Gallop certified Executive Leadership Performance consultant. That's a
big business card you have there, Brandy, how are you tonight?
Speaker 6 (32:58):
I'm doing well. How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I'm doing great. You're gonna tell us about the four
types of bad bosses. I'm surprised you could narrow it
down to four.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Well, you know, what it comes down to is where
you know, being a bad boss is coming from. So,
for example, it could be just from having inexperience, you know,
as a boss. It could be you know, not having
training as a boss. I think most people want to
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be successful leaders, want to be successful bosses, but a
lot of time there's just a missing component of not
knowing how to do that. And then you also have,
you know, the personality differences between people, which can create
a quote unquote bad boss, even though it's really just
a difference in you know, how two people operate. And
then of course you get the bad boss that we
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all know, which is the one that seems to like
or enjoy to make your life miserable every time you
go to work.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Well, you know, I've never aspired to be a boss.
I've never been a boss. I've always been employee, an
on air TV reporter here in Boston for the CBS
affiliate WBZ, and now eighteen years as a talk show host.
I never had that aspiration. It's like, I just want
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to do.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Being charged.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
But I think that there were some people who look
in the mirror and say to themselves that that they
can be the leader of people, and not all of
them are really good at it. What percentage of bosses
in the country. And look, you can start with the
President of the United States. Now, he strikes me as
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somebody if you're not really loyal to the boss, you've
got a big problem if you're working in the one Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
Yeah, I would think so too with him.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Sure, you know, but maybe he's he just can attract
people who were totally loyal in the second term. Didn't
do too well with that in the first term. Are
the people who you think are wired to be bosses
and people who are wired not to be bosses?
Speaker 6 (35:08):
Yeah, I do think there's a couple components. I think
there's a genetic component of you know, just being born
with the genetic code of just really wanting to lead
other people. And maybe that is in a way of
studying direction, or maybe that's in a way of helping
others be successful by setting them up for success, or
maybe that's through building good relationships with them. But I
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also think there's an element that could be training. So
if you grow up in a family full of leaders,
then maybe you know what you're studying at home are
the principles of leadership all throughout your childhood. So by
the time you're you know, on your own eighteen nineteen twenty,
you start already having the desire to lead because you
just know that you can, and you know know that
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you were built for that because of the experience that
you had grown up, or maybe you know, you've just
had some experiences in school in high school where you
were the leader of others and you learned that others
would follow you, and it, you know, felt good or
it went well for you.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I look at everything related to your field through the
metaphor of professional sports, and one of the things that
I have learned, whether it's baseball, football, basketball, or hockey,
the best athletes are the best players have been miserable
failures for the most part as managers or coaches. You know,
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Bill Belichick, the great Patriots coach, never played football anywhere
I think beyond maybe he played at Wesley in a
little bit, but that certainly wasn't you know, big time
college football at that point. And the same way in baseball.
I mean the great baseball managers here in Boston. Alex
Coorr is a great baseball manager, I think, probably one
(36:50):
of the best in the game. Dave Robertson in Los Angeles.
But they were not superstar ballplayers. They made the major leagues,
which is fabulous, but they're better managers than they were players.
And I think that's because the person who's the superstar
and to whom it comes naturally doesn't know how to
teach and lead and any Do you buy into any
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of that theory or no.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Well, I can I can see both. I can see
where you have, you know, individuals who are just really
good individual performers and they're not really good at coaching others.
I have seen examples where we have a great coach,
but they can't play the game at all. And then
I've seen examples where that person has been both and
(37:35):
for me, what's it's not one or the other. It's
just if they have the different traits or aspects of
their personality, well, you know they.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I'm not going to put you in the spot, but
I think you'd be tough to name me one great athlete,
professional athlete, and one of the four major sports who
became a great coacher manager to be I probably.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
Would because I don't watch sports.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Well that's it, that's it. How can folks get get
your book? Here? Is there a book here you have
just written? How can folks get more information on how they.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Get in contact with you?
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Yeah, I haven't written a book, but I do. I
did build a web application around strength so people can
go to strengthology leadership dot com if they're interested strengththology.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
You need the word of strengthology. Okay, we can figure
that one.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
Yeah, yeah, And then they could also find me on LinkedIn.
And my name is Brandy with a Y, and shade
is spelled S C H A d E.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, it's spelled like shade, like a curtain shade. But
you get that C in the between the S and
the and the H.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Yeah, it's actually German and it means too bad.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Well, you've been very good, Brandy. I appreciate your time. Tonight,
we'll talk again, and next time we can talk more
sports as well. Okay, thank you so much. Right, have
a great night. I think we just lost it there. Unfortunately,
we will be back right after the nine o'clock news
and we are going to focus on the Boston mayors race.
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Did you vote today? Who'd you vote for? Let's have
some fun with politics. We'll probably have the results by
ten o'clock. Stick with us.
It's nice with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Ezy Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Good evening, Night Side Nation. My name is Dan Ray,
and I am here every Monday through Friday night to
take a little four hour ride through the evening with you,
right up just to the cusp of midnight. We have
some interesting topics tonight and some interesting guests coming up.
Rob Brooks is off tonight, and we have Dan Cantano
(00:29):
staffing the production room back at Broadcast headquarters. But without
any further ado, we're going to get right into our
first guest here during the eight o'clock hours. You know,
no phone calls during the eight o'clock hour. There's a
four different topics. I think you'll be interested in all
of them. We'll learn about dusky sharks, why they're eating seals.
I guess just what dusky sharks do. Going to speak
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with a writer from New Hampshire tell us about sixteen
things us New England do say or do that maybe
we should, maybe we should. And then we'll talk with
a writer about four types of bad bosses. Well, one
good boss is the treasurer, State Treasurer and Receiver General
here in Massachusetts, Deb Goldberg, who is a very able
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successor to Robert Quentin Crane, a great state treasurer in
the mid to late twentieth century. Treasure Goldberg, you're keeping
the office running.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I hope right, absolutely, Dan, you know I am.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Look. I saw an article in the Boston Globe. I
think it was recently, might have been a Sunday. I
was a piece written by Nick Stoiko about Europe. Office
came into possession of six six medals for US military
veterans who earned those medals purple hearts, which absolute had
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been left in a ten I guess would be one
way to describe it, safe deposit boxes before we go
to and I guess we have at least one of
the medals already returned. We'll get to that in a moment.
But how is it that the Commonwealth of Massachusetts are
more importantly your department of what's called abandoned property comes
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into possession not only of bank accounts that are inactive
for a certain period of time, but also safe deposit boxes.
I think the public needs a little bit of our
fresher on how this system works.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So in our office, we have a division called the
Unclaimed Property Division. And as you know, because we so
many people talk about it. It's you know, mass money
dot gov. And you know, you see the ads, you
hear the ads, and it's because we actively, three hundred
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and sixty five days a year are trying to reconnect
people with their money. In fact, two weeks ago, I
delivered to the Jimmy Fund almost eight hundred thousand dollars
of lost money they had. It wasn't the state giving
the money. It was literally unclaim funds of theirs. And
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I delivered it during their phonus on at Fenway. So
we really, I myself have received letters in the mail
saying if we sent you a check and it hasn't
been deposited yet, if you haven't gotten this check, please
you know, call us. Otherwise we have to notify the
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Unclaimed Property Division. And I thought you're going to not
if I'm me about me. But in terms of these
purple hearts, they the background on safe deposit boxes that
after eight years of a bank having one and no
owner comes in and tries to you know, open the box,
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look in the box, or and they have not been
responding to letters that at that point the contents are
turned over to our office. The banks drill the box
open after one year of nonpayment. You know, you have
to pay annually, but they oversee they hold the contents
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for seven years. This is actually the law. And then
they turned it over to us, and so we came
in possession of six purple hearts and we could not
just let them sit there. What we often do with
safe deposit box contents is we've had we've had traveling
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road shows where literally we go across the Commonwealth and
display all sorts of items that we have in our possession,
hoping that someone will recognize that as a family heirloom
and the light. But in terms of these, we really
wanted to take a very aggressive stance to get them,
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find out who they belong, to get some history, try
to find members of the family. We've been very fortunate
that press all over the state have been writing articles
trying to help us find these people. And at this
point today even I returned one to the grandson of
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one of the recipients, and you can ask me more
about that in a little bit. And we've tracked down
families for quite a number of the other ones, and
there's only one that has not been claimed that we
have not been able to find. The person and the
community that we lived in. We've talked to that local paper.
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They're trying to get the word out, and so that's
where we are with those six purple hearts.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
The one that you returned to the family. I believe
it's Thomas Flynn, who was, yes, a World War One
veteran from Worcester as a sergeant in Company G of
the one hundred and first Infantry, and his purple heart
is engraved with his name. He yeah, I guess, was
a Worcester firefighter.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
So he's a wester firefighter and his daughter is still living.
His wife had put it in a safety deposit box.
You should see it. It looks like new and I'm having
the chills telling you about it now. But when I
was there today with his grandson, I wanted to deliver
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it to his daughter. I was in Worcester last week.
I have the funniest story to go with this. She's
eighty nine years old and she was scheduled to go
to the dentist when I was supposed to come by
and her son said, mom scheduled. The dentist said no, no, no,
I can't do that. He's hard to get an appointment with.
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I said to him today, I would have waited till
she was done with the dentist, but I told him,
tell her I will come out and visit her, because,
as you know, I'm in Worcester, you know, very often.
But so her son said he would come to the
State House. And it was tremendous and emotional, really emotional.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I wanted so the four I'm going to read the
other names and I want to figure out which one
needs more more publicity. Have you located a family of
Joseph Ruda. He's the World War Two staff sergeant from
the that.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Is the one we are having challenges with. He's from
the southern part of the state. As you know, the
new Bedford newspaper interviewed me. They did a big story
on it, and really ask people, if you know him,
you know his family members, you know anyone, please get
in touch and if anyone on the air tonight knows
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Joseph Aruda or his daughter Susan Santos, please have them
call our office. Can I give a phone number?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Sure? Or what they could also do which you might
well might anyone who would know him, Why don't you
give your phone number? If anybody misses that phone number.
If they're driving in a car, they can just call
the control you know, our showroom, our show okay at
six one seven, two, five, four, ten thirty. We'll get
that information to you. But why don't you put the
number that you would like them to call. I'm just
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vamping for a little time for you here, okay, Madam Trudea.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
So the number. The number is six one seven three
six seven zero four zero zero. And if you're driving
and can't make that call, please call Dan Ray and
he will connect you to us.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Absolutely so, But again, I just want to give a
little bit more bio real quickly on him. Here. He
was a World War Two staff sergeant, as was my dad,
by the way, same rank, same war. He's from New Bedford,
South Dartmouth or Ruta. Served in the Asiatic Pacific theater
of operations in the one hundred and twenty ninth Infantry Regiment.
He passed in nineteen ninety eight. His daughters are the
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owners of the safe deposit box. The box went unclaimed
in twenty eleven was turned over to the Treasury in
twenty nineteen. His discharge papers are also in the box.
I think you'll find him, madam treasurer let us mention
the four that you now have a good lead on
James Mooney, he was with the Marines during the Vietnam War.
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You think you're going to be okay with him or
do we need more information?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, we are in good shape with the with the others, Yes,
the four are in the process of being claimed.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
There was. I just want to mention their names because
the name should be mentioned. Robert Beoquist. I'm hoping I'm
pronouncing that correctly. Boquid born in Stoneham, served in the
Army during the Korean War, and later lived in Rutland, Massachusetts.
That's not a big town. He died in two thousand
and three, and his son, who owned the safe deposit box,
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died in twenty sixteen. So if anyone knows in Rutland
or Stoneham, any family members of Robert Bequist boqu Ist,
do you have a lead on him? Says you said
you had something on.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
All four of them, right, We think, yes, we have
a lead on that. We have a lead on all
of them except for Joe Aruda.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Okay, I want to come back to it, and I
just want to acknowledge Edward McCabe World War two veteran
from forty one to forty five, born in Worcester, later
lived in Framingham. Died in nineteen eighty two. His two
children owned the safe deposit box. Both have since died.
His purple heart is also engraved. You've got to lead
there and last, but not least, WILLIAMS. Bemus was killed
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in action during World War Two. The State Treasurers said
it believed this purple heart was in a fire in
the family's home in the nineteen sixties. The safe deposit
box was owned by his nephew, and you've got to
lead on that as well.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yes, we do.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
That's great work. Look, I am a big admirer of
what you do. Your term in office has been so successful.
You've done a great job as treasure But I think
this has to have been one of the most important
tasks of your career as a treasurer to be able.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
To reply, well, I don't disagree when people ask me
why is this so important to me? You know, I
said to someone last week, we lived in such a
crazy world. Yet for these people, they were focused on
on their duty and their call to public service. For
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them willing to risk everything in order to ensure that
the rest of us are safe to defend our democracy,
to do it without question. If you could have heard
Tom Bingham today, the grandson talking about his grandfather. His
grandfather didn't want to talk about it. This was just
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understood that this is what you did for your family
and for your country, and was very modest about this.
And then look after he was gassed in World War One,
he was wounded, he saved others and then what did
he do. He came back to the city of Worcester
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and he was a firefighter doing the same thing all
over again. These are the people who deserve honor and respect,
and so this could have been a more really truly
emotional undertaking, not just for me, but for the people
who work in my unclaimed property division.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I'm going to say you and your staff have given
these men, even though they have passed, the honor and
respect that they certainly deserve.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Out of treasure. I've got another guest waiting in the
wings here. I love talking to you. You know that
this was really great work, and you know, just thank
you for this, and thank you for looking after the
property that some of us occasionally lose sight off. Because
you've returned.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Dan, thank you for helping me amplify the message and
hopefully we will find Joe Rude as relatives and be
able to also connect with them.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Well, five for six, We're going to make it six
for six.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Okay, thank you so much, Dan, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Deb Goldberg, the Treasurer and Receiver General of the Comwalth
of Massachusetts. When we get back, we're going to talk
about dusky sharks. I never knew there was such a
thing as dusky sharks. We will find out all about
them from an adjunct scientist with a New England aquarium,
John Chisholm. Right after this quick break on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Delighted to welcome John Chisholm. He's an adjunct scientist with
a New England aquarium. John, Welcome to Nightside.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
How are you good, Dan, Good to be back talking
to you.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Well. Absolutely, Tonight we're going to talk about dusky sharks.
I didn't even know such a shark existed. What is
a dusky shark?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
So you're not alone. A lot of people, especially with
the white sharks getting most of the attention, a lot
of people don't realize We do have other species of
sharks off from Massachusetts, and the dusky shark is one
of them. It's a large coastal shark likes warm water.
Usually we see them up here this time of year
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in the summertime, when the water gets warm enough and
gets in their comfort zone. We've seen them historically all
the way back to like the nineteenth century, so they've
always been a shark that's you know, been off of Massachusetts.
But we are at the northern limit of their range.
Occasionally they'll straight up to Georgia's Bank, and even some
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have been seen up off of Nova Scotia, but primarily
there south of Massachusetts. In the winter time, they'll you know,
go back down migrate self to stay in that warm water.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
How here, how do they everybody's I think knows the
big big white sharks. Now, okay, but you have seeing
sharks and different types of sharks. Are they just you
are run of the mill shark? And the phrase dusky,
I'm just that has nothing to do with the time
of day. It's spelled d u s k y. Were
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they discovered by something that named doi?
Speaker 5 (16:01):
No? It more it has more to do with their coloration.
You know, they can be dusky grayish to bronze color,
and that's pretty much where the name comes from.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
They enjoy, they must enjoy the buffet that the seals
put out every day out of Montamoe Island.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Well, that's the interesting part about this new study that
we just published is this is the first observation we
have and that's been documented of them actually feeding on
seals off of Nantucket. And we have had a couple
of cases with them feeding on seals off off of
Montamoe and up off and Asset, but yeah, it's it's
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a unique observation. Historically, both fields and duskies did occur here,
so this could have been occurring, you know, years ago
when no one was really documenting this type of stuff.
But what's happened is dusky shark populations have really been
decimated due to fishing pressure and they're often caught and bycatch,
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as by catching other fisheries for tuna and sword fish,
so their numbers have been in big decline. And then
you have the seals which were also pretty much wiped out,
and you know, just handful of the population remained up
in Canadian waters until the Marine Member of Protection Act
in nineteen seventy two. So what we have is now
the seals are recovering and moving south. Dusky shocks have
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been protected for a couple of decades now, so you know,
we're seeing a little bit more of them. And now
they're you know, we're seeing an overlap where the duskies
and the seals meet and we're seeing dusky steed on seals.
But we got to consider that this may have been happening,
you know, years ago before people were paying attention and
both populations were healthy. And now we're getting back to
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those healthy stocks and we're seeing this, you know, relationship
between the duskies and the gray sields.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
It's just interesting how this can evolve. You know, both
species were in trouble, both species were protected, both species
have multiplied, and uh, and now it's and they are,
they're contiguous, They're they're close together. They are I guess
natural enemies. I guess the seals. I'm not a big
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seal guy. I've never ordered sealed even if it was
on the menu, never even think about it. But I
guess the duskies love it.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
And they they love coming up here to the warm
waters and enjoying a buffet this must be interesting for
you to follow these developments because they're not developments that
occur over a period of a couple of weeks or
a couple of months. They they occur slowly but surely
over years, I guess.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Right, yeah, yeah, And this particular case, one of the
other factors that contribut to the discovery were just everyday people,
fishermen and beachgoers that were the first to observe these
predations by duskies on on seals and send them in.
We call it citizen science, and I think a lot
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of people here citizen science and think it's just like
a catchphrase. But this is a great example of how
this discovery came about because of citizen scientists sending in
videos and photos of these shocks steeding on seals that
you know, we investigated and ended up determining there were
dusky sharks, and it's you know.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Well, it just proves that all of us interact and
observe nature. And when you see something that looks interesting,
say something, or Betty yet get a videotape, get the
camera out, get a videotape and send a few folks
At the At the New England Aquarium, John chish, I
sure changed you a minute or two here on time.
I apologize for that. I'll make it up next time.
(19:59):
I promise, no problem.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Thanks John, you told the story and you told it well.
Thank you so much, my friend. If you be well and
enjoy the rest of the summer in the warmer weather
of September and October. When we get back, when I
talk with a reporter for a news I believe it's
a newspaper. Maybe it's a magazine called The Granite Post.
Sixteen things only people from New England say or do.
(20:22):
We'll be back right after the news at the bottom
of the air, just running a minute or two late. Sorry, newspeople,
you're on night side with Dan Ray.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I'm telling you Bzy Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
And I should add that is new Arch by Doctor Sell,
Doctor Sell Dental Implant Center. By the way, we have
some fractional results here on the Boston mayors race. Michelle
Wu is out to a lead. She is about sixty
five point nine percent sixty four hundred votes. Joshkraft twenty
(20:57):
eight hundred votes. Robert Capucci and INGOs de Rosa are
trailing badly. They're into single digits. Clearly the race is
between Wu and Craft, and that's only with about eight
point seven percent of the vote reporting. Now we're going
to move to our next guest, and I am looking
forward to this conversation, Stacy Millbauer. Stacy that I pronounce you?
(21:22):
Was it close to it at least your last name?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
No, you're right on Dan, all.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Right, Stacey Milbarr. Tell us you're a reporter for the
Granted Post. Granted Post obviously has to be based in
New Hampshire, the Granite State. Is it a magazine, a newspaper,
a quarterly? Tell us what a little bit about.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
The Yes, it's yeah, it's it's a website. It is
on Facebook, it's on all like social media.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I want you to know I had a difficult time
accessing it today, so I have not read your article,
as of course I should have, but I dutifully tried
to access this access it. It would not allow me
in the articles about sixteen things only people from New
England say or do. So let's go through them as
(22:10):
not you know, don't have to speed dial here, but
let's move through them. Tell us you want to break
them down as did the Saves or the des or
you just want to give it to them in order
give us two of them.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
In I can just you know, say a few. So
I had a subsection of fashion. Our idea of a
winter coat is wearing a flannel over a T shirt. Yes,
forget gloves, those are for weather winds or toddlers. For
many of us, cold weather couture consists of shorts and
(22:39):
socks with fly flannels.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Okay, that would not be believed that that's okay, you
did say many of us qualified that. Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
My favorite one, and I'm sure you can relate to this,
is I called a thermostatus quo, which is the situation
where your husband won't turn on the heat and us
it's act it has to be November first, even if
it's thirty below zero in October?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Can't it when my kids come home? My adult children,
either the air conditioning goes to about sixty one in
the summer and in the winter they take the thermostat
up to eighty one. And I'd like happy data in
both instances. What else you got.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
So this? You know, I have to say my husband's
of Boston native, and he really gives me, you know,
a lot of input on this. His idea the official
onset of spring has nothing to do with the calendar
or the temperature. It starts when spring training starts with
the Red Sox. Well that when the.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Truck, when the truck leaves Fenway Park, that is one
of the high holy days that they celebrate. Yeah, so
that tells us that that spring is there.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Go right ahead, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
No, No, it has nothing to do with flowers or anything.
It has to do with the Red Sox. Let's see
we this, you know, I think we are again. I
can all relate to this. It doesn't really feel like
you've been to the beach in August unless you're numb
from the waist down when you get out of the water.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, and when when people go in the water and
they'll run in and they'll say, oh, it's so warm,
warm compared to what I mean, the aren't the circle?
You know, for me warm you know, it's warm, like
ninety degrees in a swimming pool. That for me is
a level of comfort, you know. But I see people
(24:30):
calling to and they come out and they're shivering. But oh,
it's what it was really good. It was. It was
it was invigorating. Yeah, it was more than invigorating. You're
only in there for ten seconds and you had to
get out. Go ahead, I don't mean to interrupt.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Well, I said the same thing. I said. We call
it refreshing. Flat Landers call it torture, yeah, which and
I happen to agree with that. Of course. You know,
you know you're in New England er when you're you're
a Red Sox fan. But you have to hate the
Yankees like this.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
You just have to.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
You don't want to wear a Yankees hat to Fenway Park.
And it's just history here. If if you're a New
England Red Sox fan got to hate the Yankees.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Uh, it goes. It goes just like bacon and eggs
loving the Red Sox. Hey the Yankees, I get it right.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
And then the other way, you know is from New
Englander is there's also like this is this ongoing rivalry
between New York and Boston. It goes way beyond baseball.
It goes like you know, who has the best pizza,
who has the best colleges? And I had to give
it to New York for pizza because I just think,
you know, you can't be New York pizza. Okay, I
(25:42):
was born there.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
But it's okay. I love pizza anywhere. I'm civil as
that I'm I'm I'm pizza all the time. That would
be if I had to just be limited to one meal,
it would be pizza, pizza and a salad. What else
we got? What about some of the things that we say?
We've hit a lot of the things that we do.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Okay, So the last time I was on your show
is because I wrote an article about what New Englanders say,
and this time I was doing what New England's do.
It's kind of a follow up to.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
My own I'm sorry, Okay. My producer misread me then
because it said sixteen things only people from New England
say or do. Well, you keep going here. We got
a couple more minutes left. You go run ahead? What
else you got? So I want you, Stacy, here's the deal.
I don't want you to leave anything in the bullpen tonight.
Do you know what I'm saying. I mean, I want
you to come out and just give us your best
(26:30):
shots ahead.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Okay, Well, so here's one like we hate New Englanders
hate when Hollywood tries to make actors talk with a
New England accent and they're not from New England. Oh yeah,
you know, and you know examples of that are Jack
Nicholson and The Departed was not great. Amy Adams and
(26:55):
The Fighter. She tried, She's a great actress, but it
just it didn't work. You know. I say, stick to
your own like Matt Damon and bed Affleck and Goodwill
Hunting or Mark Wahlberg and The Fighter, or Betty Davis
and anything. These were native New England actors and they
they shouldn't try to fake it. So that was one
of them. Let's see food and drink, Okay, so I
(27:19):
think again you will probably recognize this. The New England
is worship of the altar of dunks. We don't call
it duncans. We don't call it dunkin donuts. It's dunks.
And you know we just we drink ice coffee all
year round. I call it.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I'm a native New Englander, I call it. I call
it dunkin Donuts. I might quipple with you on that one.
By the way, can I take a quick funny story
about Jack Nicholson. The only time ever Nicholson was one
time I was at a Lakers game and he's sitting
like on the front row and all of that But
when I was a lot younger and he was a
lot younger, I had a nice condo in Boston and
(27:58):
real estate agent came to me and said, we have
a customer who would like to rent the condo for
a month. And I think they gave me some bizarre
figure like ten thousand dollars, which back in the early
nineteen eighties was a lot of money, not that it's
not a lot of money today. And I said, well,
maybe I'll think about it. But who would that person be?
Jack Nicholson? He was in town shooting something. Nicholson at
(28:21):
that time had a reputation of like party Central. And
I said, no, thank you very much. Do say hello
to Jack for me, but I'm not letting him anywhere near.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Such a good story though.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Well it would have been a great it would have
been a better story, but I gotta tell you the
damage that could have been done to that condo, into
the roof deck, I didn't even want to imagine. So
tell us how people can get a subscription or how
they can follow you work, Stacy.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Okay, so subscription free, there's nothing, you don't pay anything.
So it appears on a lot of platforms, So granted,
Post has a Facebook page, it has a you know,
you know, Twitter x, you know whatever you call it now, Instagram, Facebook,
and then you can also go onto their actual website, perfect,
(29:20):
perfect and granded Post Courier. Courier is kind of our
bigger company. You know, this is not just well granted
Post is justin New Hampshire, but we have sister publications
around the country and other states.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
There's a big newspaper in Louisville called the Louis Louisville
Courier Journal.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
It's not part of that, no newspaper based. It's really
all online. I'm an old newspaper reporter. Like you know,
I'm low with lanes.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
So okay, I'm not superman. But let me ask you
this lowis, if I can, how long have you lived
in New England?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So I was born in Brooklyn. I had lived up
here since I was in high school.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Okay, I thought if you and your husband had just
gotten up there, I was going to say, wait to
four years from now or now, it's like three years
from now, when all the presidential candidates trudge up there,
you're going to meet them all. They're going to be
every wherever you turn. They're gonna there's going to be
a presidential case. Well but you've done. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I mean it's you know, it's it's like a holiday hit.
There's like there's there's actually primary tourism in New History
where people come from other states in other parts of
the country and they go into hotels and they eat
at the restaurants and they go and watch people, you know,
give stump speeches. It's part of Yeah, that's part of
(30:49):
New Hampshire culture, which reminds me of my other you know,
you're in New Englander when you are like one degree
of you know of Adam Sandler, Like everybody knows somebody
whose aunt you know, sat at the counter at the
uh absolutely Red Arrow and had coffee with Adam Sandler.
I mean that's like, you know, especially in New Hampshire,
(31:09):
because right past it.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
It's a right of passage, that's all, you know, It's
a right of passage. And then what I love is
the people who pay the thousand dollars cash. They don't
have to get any supporters thousand dollars cash in the
barrel head in New Hampshire. Only in New Hampshire, your
name is on the ballot on your obituary. You could
say that, you know, Joe Phonebone ran for president in
twenty sixteen, and of course you got the guy up there.
(31:33):
I forget what his name is. It's it's a beautiful
name that walks around wearing the boot on his head.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Oh yeah, no, he's at my when my son was born.
I made sure that he had his picture taken with him. Yeah,
it's it's Vermin Supreme, a fabulous Vermin Supreme Supreme.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
No, absolutely, I haven't quite lost it yet.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah. And it was Randy d like, yeah, there's all
these people, and there was at one point that was
a Westler that was running for usidents here. Yeah, no,
it's it's a trip.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, Vermin Supreme. I still would love to know what
he does for the rest of the time, other than
walking around with a boot in his head.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
But still February.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
All right, Stacey Milbarr, thank you so much, reporter for
the granted post. We'll talk again, Thanks Stacy.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
All right, Dan, bye bye.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Well we come back right after this quick news break.
We're going to talk to four types of bad bosses.
Most of us will probably be able to identify. With
all of those types, we'll be back with Brandy Shade.
Right after this.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Night side with Dan Ray, I'm Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
We joined out by Brandy Shade. She's at workplace Expert
and a Gallop certified Executive Leadership Performance consultant. That's a
big business card you have there, Brandy, how are you tonight?
Speaker 6 (32:58):
I'm doing well. How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I'm doing great. You're gonna tell us about the four
types of bad bosses. I'm surprised you could narrow it
down to four.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Well, you know, what it comes down to is where
you know, being a bad boss is coming from. So,
for example, it could be just from having inexperience, you know,
as a boss. It could be you know, not having
training as a boss. I think most people want to
(33:28):
be successful leaders, want to be successful bosses, but a
lot of time there's just a missing component of not
knowing how to do that. And then you also have,
you know, the personality differences between people, which can create
a quote unquote bad boss, even though it's really just
a difference in you know, how two people operate. And
then of course you get the bad boss that we
(33:51):
all know, which is the one that seems to like
or enjoy to make your life miserable every time you
go to work.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Well, you know, I've never aspired to be a boss.
I've never been a boss. I've always been employee, an
on air TV reporter here in Boston for the CBS
affiliate WBZ, and now eighteen years as a talk show host.
I never had that aspiration. It's like, I just want
(34:17):
to do.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Being charged.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
But I think that there were some people who look
in the mirror and say to themselves that that they
can be the leader of people, and not all of
them are really good at it. What percentage of bosses
in the country. And look, you can start with the
President of the United States. Now, he strikes me as
(34:41):
somebody if you're not really loyal to the boss, you've
got a big problem if you're working in the one Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
Yeah, I would think so too with him.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Sure, you know, but maybe he's he just can attract
people who were totally loyal in the second term. Didn't
do too well with that in the first term. Are
the people who you think are wired to be bosses
and people who are wired not to be bosses?
Speaker 6 (35:08):
Yeah, I do think there's a couple components. I think
there's a genetic component of you know, just being born
with the genetic code of just really wanting to lead
other people. And maybe that is in a way of
studying direction, or maybe that's in a way of helping
others be successful by setting them up for success, or
maybe that's through building good relationships with them. But I
(35:31):
also think there's an element that could be training. So
if you grow up in a family full of leaders,
then maybe you know what you're studying at home are
the principles of leadership all throughout your childhood. So by
the time you're you know, on your own eighteen nineteen twenty,
you start already having the desire to lead because you
just know that you can, and you know know that
(35:53):
you were built for that because of the experience that
you had grown up, or maybe you know, you've just
had some experiences in school in high school where you
were the leader of others and you learned that others
would follow you, and it, you know, felt good or
it went well for you.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I look at everything related to your field through the
metaphor of professional sports, and one of the things that
I have learned, whether it's baseball, football, basketball, or hockey,
the best athletes are the best players have been miserable
failures for the most part as managers or coaches. You know,
(36:30):
Bill Belichick, the great Patriots coach, never played football anywhere
I think beyond maybe he played at Wesley in a
little bit, but that certainly wasn't you know, big time
college football at that point. And the same way in baseball.
I mean the great baseball managers here in Boston. Alex
Coorr is a great baseball manager, I think, probably one
(36:50):
of the best in the game. Dave Robertson in Los Angeles.
But they were not superstar ballplayers. They made the major leagues,
which is fabulous, but they're better managers than they were players.
And I think that's because the person who's the superstar
and to whom it comes naturally doesn't know how to
teach and lead and any Do you buy into any
(37:12):
of that theory or no.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Well, I can I can see both. I can see
where you have, you know, individuals who are just really
good individual performers and they're not really good at coaching others.
I have seen examples where we have a great coach,
but they can't play the game at all. And then
I've seen examples where that person has been both and
(37:35):
for me, what's it's not one or the other. It's
just if they have the different traits or aspects of
their personality, well, you know they.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I'm not going to put you in the spot, but
I think you'd be tough to name me one great athlete,
professional athlete, and one of the four major sports who
became a great coacher manager to be I probably.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
Would because I don't watch sports.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Well that's it, that's it. How can folks get get
your book? Here? Is there a book here you have
just written? How can folks get more information on how they.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Get in contact with you?
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Yeah, I haven't written a book, but I do. I
did build a web application around strength so people can
go to strengthology leadership dot com if they're interested strengththology.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
You need the word of strengthology. Okay, we can figure
that one.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
Yeah, yeah, And then they could also find me on LinkedIn.
And my name is Brandy with a Y, and shade
is spelled S C H A d E.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, it's spelled like shade, like a curtain shade. But
you get that C in the between the S and
the and the H.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Yeah, it's actually German and it means too bad.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Well, you've been very good, Brandy. I appreciate your time. Tonight,
we'll talk again, and next time we can talk more
sports as well. Okay, thank you so much. Right, have
a great night. I think we just lost it there. Unfortunately,
we will be back right after the nine o'clock news
and we are going to focus on the Boston mayors race.
(39:09):
Did you vote today? Who'd you vote for? Let's have
some fun with politics. We'll probably have the results by
ten o'clock. Stick with us.
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