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March 11, 2025 37 mins
We kicked off the program with four news stories and different guests on the stories we think you need to know about!

U.S. News & World Report’s 2025 Best Cars for Families! With Alex Kwanten - Managing Editor of the Autos team at U.S. News & World Report.

$5,000 Scholarships for Students wanting a Career as an Automotive Technician - Experts predict a shortage of 417,000 auto technicians by 2028. Alex Shelton - Ford Philanthropy’s Manager, Education for the Future of Work explained.

Colorectal Cancer Awareness Month this March - critical importance of prevention and early detection in the fight against colorectal cancer. Dr. Ryan Carlson - colon and rectal surgeon at Cape Cod Healthcare checked in.

Spring Breakers Should Be Aware Of Fentanyl Laced Drugs: Increase In Overdoses, According To Experts. Abid Nazeer, DEFENT Advisor and Addiction Psychiatrist, Chief Medical Officer at Hopemark Health joined Dan.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio home.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thank you Nicole. As we start off at Tuesday night brewinschmoins,
what's the matter? I mean, Rhian's not playing. You can
watch the game, turn the audio down, no big deal,
and you can listen to Nightside and you can learn
a lot. Right here on Nightside. We have four great
guests coming up in this first hour. Get to the
first guest in just a moment. My name is Dan Ray.

(00:28):
I'm the host of the night Side Rob Brooks. Back
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(01:10):
twenty four to seven before I start Tonight, I was
remissed last night. I was at a lovely dinner on
Saturday night in Boston and I was asked to do
a shout out to one of my most loyal listeners,
and I somehow had misplaced the card that I have. So,
with apologies to all, including I want to send a

(01:32):
shout out to a loyal Nightside listener, Kathleen Stoker. Kathleen
is from Arlington, Massachusetts, actually from originally Kinsale and County Cork.
I've been in Kinsale in County Cork. I know it well.
We might be related Kathleen. And Kathleen is a longtime
Nightside listener and she's going to have a very special

(01:53):
birthday next December first, and we'll celebrate it at that time.
But I'm told she's hitting one of those big marks
when you have a zero on the end of the number.
Not going to tell you what the first number is,
but Kathleen, thank you so much for being so loyal
Tonight's side. I'm sorry that I missed the shout out
last night, and I decided to do it tonight right
at the top of the show. And I hope, I

(02:14):
hope you heard it, and I hope some of your
friends have heard it as well. Kathleen Stoker, Arlington, Massachusetts,
originally from Kinsale County, Cork. Now let's get to the
matters at hand. We're going to start off tonight talking
with Alex Quanton. Alex is the managing editor of the
Autos Team and US News and World Report. That sounds

(02:37):
like a fun job, Alex Quanton, how are you tonight?

Speaker 3 (02:41):
I'm good. Thanks for having me Dan, And yeah, it
is a fun job.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I'll bet it is. So you have just come out
or not you? The US World and News Report has
come out with their twoenty twenty five list of best
cars for Families. What makes a car best for families?
I would I know that most families are not buying

(03:04):
you know, little coop convert convertibles or something like them,
or say these two seat convertibles. But give us a
quick description of what qualifies as a family car. What
are some of the uh, the indicators that are family
for I think car I think most of us know,
but I'd love to hear you tell us.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Sure, so families really prioritize room above all else, because
you want to be able to haul all that stuff
with you and all your kids with you. But they
also prioritize convenience, the availability of features. You know, there's
a lot of new features now like team driver controls
and adaptive cruise control and reverse automatic breaking. And they
also want to get, you know, a good deal with

(03:42):
something that has good feel, economy and has good safety scores.
And I think a lot of families are looking for
a combination of all those qualities. So what we do
to calculate these awards is we analyze one hundred different
vehicles from nine different classes UH and we cross reference
sort of our overall all the reviews of the vehicle,
which are done from data, and we also get into

(04:04):
vehicles ourselves, but most of our rankings and reviews are
done are data driven, and then we cross reference those
reviews with a deep dive on passenger space, on cargo volume,
the availability of the features I was just talking about,
and then we score all that data. We actually have
two data people who help us with this. They do
a lot of hard work on it, and then the
vehicles with the highest scores in each class are the winners.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
So now is it one hundred cars in each class
or one hundred cars total?

Speaker 3 (04:31):
One hundred cars total. You know, there's a lot of
marginal models that families aren't going to considered, and as
you said, they're not going to be buying in Mercedes
as sell. But we try to identify the things that
we think are the most likely classes families have want,
like three ro ow SUVs, mid sized cars, minivans, the usual.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Okay, so I think you have a bunch of categories
and let's just take them in order, because there may
be people out there who are listening tonight and will
be mightily influenced by by what your recommendations are. Let's
let's just take them a note. Let's talk about the
best compact suv for family. So compact suv, that's the

(05:10):
word compact. That's not a big family here, right, but
it's a family.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
It's you know, it's not a big family, but it
is a big vehicle on the inside. You know, the
compact suv is kind of replaced the midsize sedan for
a lot of people if you don't need more than
two rows of seats. Although a couple of compact SUVs
actually do offer a pine tiney third row if you
really need it. But the one that we've chosen as
our winner, and it's been a winner four years in
a row, is a Hyundai Tucson. And I'll tell you

(05:37):
the big thing that stands out is just how ringy
and convenient it is. So the back seat. You know,
we're always looking to load kids and with child seats,
and you know, to get them in and out quickly,
and to put people back there and sometimes elderly relatives
back there too. The back seat of the Tucson has
forty one point three inches of leg room, which is
about eight tenths of an inch short of a Chevy Tahoe,

(05:59):
which is a big, you know, big a honk and
full size suv. So there's a lot of room, and
that has an equally large amount of cargo space.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Okay, so let's go to the best two row mid
size suv for failing, and that one is the twenty
twenty five Mastax seventy. That's a pretty good sized car.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
It is. It's one of the bigger sort of mid
sized SUVs. And you know, the CX seventy is a
totally new entry in a class where you know, automakers
haven't really been prioritizing large two row SUVs that tend
to want to fit three rows in them, but you know,
not everybody actually needs that third row. If you don't
want it, the CX seventies huge advantages or that it
offers all the style and features and a great driving

(06:40):
experience of Mansa's other SUVs to c X ninety but
with a huge, huge cargo area. I mean, you could
conceivably take a family of four on the trip from
LA to Chicago without feeling cramped and having enough room
for your luggage without trailers, without you probably without even
roof rack.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
So if you get a few, if you on a
larger family and you need three rows, you're suggesting for
mid size suv for families. Twenty twenty five Kia Tell
You Ride. Someone else told me about the Kia Tell
You Ride. They say it's a great vehicle.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
You know, the Tell You Ride is just a juggernaut.
It is the sixth year in a row that we
have named the Taill You Ride the best three row
midsize SUVs for families, and you know, it's just really
really talented and lots of areas it's got a big
second row, just like the Tucson I mentioned, but it's
also got a pretty reasonably roomy third road. There's more
than thirty inches of the leg room. It's pretty easy

(07:33):
to get in and out of, and it has lots
and lots of features. You know, Kia has become a
little bit more of an upmarket brand, but they still
know all about you know, packing the cars full of
like good technology. They have a great entertainment system that's
very easy to use. They have lots of you know,
the car has Wi Fi and all the family sort
of centric safety features that we were talking about before.

(07:53):
It's just talented in a lot of areas. I do
want to say, while we're on the topic of three
row SUVs, you know, are our winner for the best
electric sub is also a Kia, and that's the key
at EV nine. The EV nine, you know, it's it's
a totally I hate to talk over you.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
If you have a question, go ahead, no no, no,
no no no, I said, I yeah, I see that here.
We can't get to all of them, but give me
a quick comment on the q EV nine because at
least we want to get one electric suv for families
in here sure.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
So the EV nine offers just as much room as
the Telly Ride, but in a package where you have
far lower energy use. Now it isn't necessarily affordable for everybody.
It starts at over fifty five thousand dollars, but it's
the first really like approachable three to row electric suv
on the market. All the other ones cost more than
seventy five eighty thousand dollars, so this is a lot

(08:49):
more accessible for many families. And one of the nice
things about this is you get all the convenience of
a vehicle like to tell you ride, but you know,
you don't have to spend those twenty five minutes going
to the gas station between soccer practice or after school
or you know after violin practice, you just go home.
You can charge it at home, you plug it in.
You saved that like twenty five minutes every few days
of having to sew up the car. And it's a

(09:11):
pretty good performer. You know, it drives really well, charges
really fast out.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
In the wild.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
If you gotta charge it on a fast charger, it's
really quite quick. And it also comes with just tons
and tons of features. So the Kia has really put
up a good one to two punch with the three rows.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
All right, Well, look, there are a lot of other
cars that not only the winners, but you also have
a lot of rundown on information on the cars that
finish in the top ten and a lot of these categories.
It is the US News and World Report. They do
this every year. They've perfected how to do it, and
I just I'm going to be looking at it very

(09:49):
closely because I'm going to be getting in the market
pretty soon. And I just want to thank Alex Quanton,
managing editor of the Autos teams at US News and
World Report, and your your font of information. My friend,
you got it all in. You got a lot more
in than I thought we'll get in. Thanks you, Alex.
Great job.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Dan.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Dan.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Listeners can check it out at cars dot usnews dot com.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Thanks perfect. I should have I should have thought about that.
Give that one more time cars dot US.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Cars dot US news dot com.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Couldn't be easier. Thanks very much, Alex. You did get
it all in. All right, we get back to talk
about a scholarship program. If you have a son and daughter,
a niece or a nephew, or someone who is thinking
about becoming an automotive technician. You want to listen up.
My name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside. We are here
every Monday through Friday night from eight till midnight. We
being myself and Rob Brooks, and we will be back

(10:42):
to you on the other side of this break on Nightside,
Boston's news radio WVZ ten thirty and your am dial.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Now back to Dan Ray, my from the Window World
night Sank Studios on WBZ NewsRadio.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Well, this is an interesting story. Apparently experts are predicting
a shortage of auto technicians by twenty twenty eight. We're
not talking about twenty thirty eight. We're talking about four
years from now, three years from now, actually, a shortage
of four hundred and seventeen thousand auto technicians with us
as Alex Shelton, he is Ford's Philanthropy's Manager Education for

(11:18):
the Future of Work. Welcome Alex to Nightside. How are
you hi, Dan?

Speaker 5 (11:23):
Thanks for having me on so.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Ford Dealers and the Ford Fund, the Philanthropy Fund have
invested two million dollars to help train future auto technicians.
This this is kind of an amazing offer. Unfortunately, geographically
it looks like it's somewhat in the Midwest, and in

(11:45):
the West there are not these programs are not available
to young people for some reason in New England at
this point.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
No, it is open to the students in New England.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
This year.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I looked at it. There was a map that was
that said that I looked at that said that's good
to know. Well, so tell us how can my listen
as we're you know, a national station heard half the country.
But the Vulcal relationship is in New England. So how
do folks get lined up for these scholarships if they're
interested in becoming auto technicians? What do they have to do?

Speaker 5 (12:19):
Yeah? So this is exciting partnership with our four dealers
in Ford Philanthropy teaming up to provide four million dollars
in scholarships. That comes out to eight hundred students receiving
a five thousand dollars scholarship who's looking to pursue a
degree as an auto technician. We partner with an amazing
organization called tech Force Foundation. You can go to the
website techforce dot org slash Forward Philanthropy and on that

(12:44):
website it's all the information that you need to apply.
So you have to be enrolled or applying into an
auto technician training program live in one of the designated areas,
and there's a list of schools that are eligible and
you have to fill the fasta need based scholarship.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
I see, Okay, Yeah. I went to a couple of articles.
One was out of the Ford Media Center. Ford Dealers
in Ford funded best two million to train future auto techs.
And then these were two articles out of the Ford
Media Center, and in both of them they had as
you scrolled down and read the article, they had some

(13:22):
maps which led me to believe and I'm mistaken, that
was my mistake. But the map highlights states in the
Great Northwest, highlights Arizona, a lot of Midwestern and southern states,
but nothing new England, New York, Pennsylvania. So it's good
to know this is a national opportunity that people can
take advantage of.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
Correct, Yeah, Wolf, it gets you the updated, updated press release.
Because year one was a million dollars, year two was
two million, and this year it's four million dollars in scholarships.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
And so March, yeah, it was March at twenty twenty four.
You're right, it's exactly a year old. So that's that
is great to know. So most of let's do so
you have to be enrolled. Does that include a high school.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
Yep, So it's those who are enrolled or looking to enrolled.
It can be enrolling in the future. And so if
you're saying, you know, I'm a senior in high school
and I'm interested in becoming an auto technician, you can select
the school that you plan you plan to apply for.
This is also for individuals who are looking for new careers.
We had an individual who was in his mid forties,
has a family, he was a teacher and is now

(14:28):
choosing to go back to school to become an auto technician.
And we had someone this past year who was in
his sixties who was applying for the scholarship as well.
And so it really is open to anybody who is
looking to go back or looking to enroll, or is
currently enrolled in an auto technician program.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Okay, so to help me out here, because I'm not familiar.
I know there are schools to become a broadcaster. I
understand that I didn't go to school to become a broadcaster,
but that need it here to there. So the specific
schools people learn about the post high school that the

(15:04):
focus is on becoming an auto technician. Is that like
a year of training or how long does someone have
to go to one of these schools to become qualified
to basically become an auto technician.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yeah, great question, and it varies kind of program by program.
The average, I would say, if you're going to a
local community college, comes out to two years. There are
other schools that are a certificate based that you can
get this done in six months, nine months, eighteen months.
But the average I would say that I've seen is
two years.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Okay, so let's have that website one more time so
any of my listeners can get more information or to apply.
Is are the two websites more information and a second
one to apply? Or is more information and the one
to apply the same website.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
It's the same website. All the information is on here
and then you can click how to. You can click
the apply button from this link.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
That is tech one more time. Go ahead.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
I'm sorry, Yeah, it's no worries. It is tech force
dot org, slash Forward Philanthropy.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Well that's pretty easy. Tech force dot org slash Ford Philanthropy.
That's great, Alex, thank you so much. It's it's great
to know that there are programs that companies like Ford
are actually helping people again feel what is expected to
be a huge shortage. So if you're someone who loves cars, uh,

(16:28):
these are great paying jobs. And if there'll be a
career for you, and you will, you'll be able to
afford a family and and and a pretty good lifestyle.
So thank you so much, Alex. Hopefully we have impacted
maybe a few people tonight who as a result gonna
get involved in this program. Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Thanks for having me on THNKDN.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Alex Shelton, Ford's Philanthropy, Ford Philanthropies Manager. We'll we get
back and I talk about a serious issue with doctor
Ryan Carlson. Coorectal Cancer Awareness Month is this month in
March critical importance of prevention and early detection in this
fight against colorectal cancer, and this is something that both
men and women need to be concerned about. Back with

(17:09):
doctor Ryan Carlson right after this quick break on Nightside.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
You're on the Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w
Z Boston's news Radio.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Well, as you mentioned before the break, March is colo
Rectal Cancer Awareness Month, something that all of us need
to be very aware of critical importance of prevention and
early detection in this fight against colorectal cancer with us
as doctor Ryan Carlson, colon and rectal surgeon at the
Cape Cod Healthware. Doctor Carlson, Welcome to Nightside, Sir, how

(17:42):
are you.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
I'm very well, Dan, Thanks for having me on your show.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Right, so you did some work I believe some of
your residency at Lakey Clinic and now you were working
down on the Cape at Cape called Healthcare. This is
something that is a devastating disease, uh, you know, devastating diagnosis.
I guess what can people do to to to prevent,

(18:14):
you know, contracting this or is it so much genetically
based that there's not much people can do? And then
the other question I guess is what can they do
to make sure that if they are going to be diagnosed,
they're diagnosed early. So it's kind of a two part question.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, there's a there's a lot you can do. So
it's kind of an optimistic picture. You know, if we
catch colon cancer early, like say by screening with colonoscopy
or one of the genetic stool tests or even a
stool blood test in the early stages, we care about
eighty five ninety percent of it. Pretty great. But of
course in the later stages, when it's spread farther to

(18:54):
the lungs or to the liver, we care about ten
percent of it. So early detection is definitely only key.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
And yeah, yeah, that's what I wanted to ask, because
obviously you see the ads on TV about you can
send in a sample and all of that. I still
assume that the gold standard is the colonoscopy every three
to five years.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah, that's true. And you know colonocopy, if you get
one at age forty five, we say forty five is
a new fifty because the colon cancer is starting earlier
these days. And if you got a clean test and
no family history, that test is actually good for ten years.
That's one of the reason why we like it so much.
I think it probably takes about ten years to go
from a poll up to a cancer. Now, if you're

(19:42):
somebody who has polyups on that first screen, yeah, they
may want you to come back in in three to
five years, but a lot of people get ten.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
This is it's it's not pleasant. Those of us who
have had it certainly realized that the prep isnt A
lot of fun, but it's a great feeling when it's over.
The procedure itself is very it's not uncomfortable at all,
and I think a lot of people still, you know,
have that that apprehension if you will, uh how uh

(20:15):
how effective? How efficient? Are the less invasive you know,
not not the the screenings you know that involve you know,
the procedure. Let me put it like trying to pick
my words carefully here, Yeah, exactly if you want to
avoid these ones. Yeah, the procedure. And you got the
stool tests, I guess is the one that I see

(20:38):
advertisements on television? How efficient or how effective is that?
Is that one?

Speaker 5 (20:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (20:42):
That's right. So there are a couple of different stool tests,
and people frequently don't know which one they're getting. But
the highest quality one is the DNA stool tests, which
is it does two things that look for looks for
microscopic blood in this dual, plus it looks for signature
cancer DNA in the stool. And that's the most effective,
and that finds almost as many colon cancers as colonoscopy does.

(21:07):
Where it falls shorter than colonoscopy is it's not as
good as detecting the polyps. So that's one thing that's
nice about colonoscopy. Almost all cancers come from a polyp,
and you do the scope and you kind of kind
of mold a lawn. You kind of pluck out those
polyps along the way, and we think prevent some of
the cancers, which is great. But you know, in terms
of detecting the cancers, yeah, the DNA based tool test

(21:30):
is really quite good. The somewhat lesser one is the
test that only looks for microscopic blood in the stool,
and that one's not nearly as sensitive for cancer because
not all cancers bleed. Some of them just aren't bleeding,
and so that one you have to do every three
years versus sorry, every one year for just the blood
test the stool based blood tests, and the DNA one

(21:53):
is every three years.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Are you a believer? And I've asked this question of
other doctors because I know that there are now blood tests.
I think one of the commercial companies is Gallery or
gallery however it's pronounced, where they basically take a blood
sample and they look for that they detect cancer cells.

(22:21):
I guess you know shavings from cancer cells. You probably
know and can articulate a lot better than I can.
But my doctor is a big fan of those tests,
and my wife and I take one every year, not
covered by insurance, but they seem to becoming to be
becoming more popular. Do you know of what I speak.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Yeah, they're the variant of what we're talking about that
we do. We are starting to use some and let's
say I take out somebody's call and cancer, and we
want to know if they need chemotherapy or not, or
they've had chemotherapy, and we want to know if they're
cure or not. And there are companies now that will
actually take the cancer that I or one of my

(23:05):
partners took out and the look for which DNA sequences
are off that needed a cancer in the first place,
and they'll look for little snippets of that floating around
in the patient's blood, and in the best cases, the
data suggests that, yeah, they can. They can tell who's
destined to get a recurrence of the cancer and who
and even who would benefit from chemotherapy and who doesn't

(23:26):
need chemotherapy because they're already already cured. Were for primetime,
but it's exciting.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, that's a little further down the road. These These
are blood tests essentially you take in conjunction with the
annual physical UH. And the theory is that if any
sort of cancer cells are getting active, they do shed
some particles and as I understand that and that those
particles can be detected in the blood test UH and
they actually can identify what cancer might be percolating in

(23:56):
your system. So I just I asked that I think
it becoming more more more popular. What what at what
age do colo rectal procedures, cancer screening, you know, procedures.
At what point are people told, okay, you're old enough,

(24:20):
you don't have anything, and it'll be something else that
will that you will die of. There was a period
of time when if you hit seventy they said, well
you're you're good, and I think they've they've moved that
back to seventy five or even eighty. Is there is
there a magic year anymore that that people can say, okay,
that's my last colo rectal procedure.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
That's a great question. Nothing magic, But the way I
look at it like this, So, like I said, we
think maybe it takes about ten years from a pole
up to become a cancer. So I can't use that number.
If I look at somebody in clinic and you know
they're eighty five, but they're doing ballroom dancing and they
can run up from flight of stairs when they're hearing laundry,

(25:05):
and that person don't want to be screened. You know,
I'm going to have a hard time saying no to
that person. But to somebody who's seventy and you know
they're on home oxygen and you just don't think they
have another five or ten years in them, then maybe
you could hold off on that person, okay.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
So it varies from varies from individual to individual, okay.
And how difficult is it to detect the polyps? In
other words, if someone if a doctor says to you, yep,
you clean, didn't find any polyps? Are they tough to spot?
Or you know, when the doctor says you're you're okay,

(25:39):
you you can take that to the bank. In other words,
my question.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Is, you know, the last numbers I've seen is that
we find about like ninety seven or ninety eight percent
of the polyps, and so which ones are we going
to miss? You know, if there was a bad prep
and so that stuff is covering up five percent of
the wall, the colon there we could miss that, or
the flat the ones that are so subtle and you

(26:03):
really need, you know, the new high death lenses that
we have to even even catch them in the best
of cases. Those are probably a few percent that we miss.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Okay, Well, the bottom line is parting. The pun is
get get screened, Get screened as early as forty five, uh,
and follow through one at year after year after year
and again I can I can tell you that the
prep is no fun. I think anyone will tell you that,
But the procedure has never been a problem. They either

(26:32):
knock you out or you go into a little bit
of a daze and you wake up, you know, forty
five or so minutes later, and they're giving you some
lemon juice or orange eight or something like that in cookies,
and you know that it's over. So yeah, absolutely, when
they say you did great, that's what's most important to

(26:52):
Ron Carlson. Thanks for your time. It's a sensitive subject
that we've talked about, but I think you handled it
really well for us, and I thank you for doing that. Well.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
It's my pleasure. Thanks for highlighting it today.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Dan, You're more than welcome, all right. When we get
back We're going to talk about one more serious issue,
and that is fentanyl laced drugs. If you have children
or grandchildren who are about to head off to spring
break where they party hardy, you want to listen to
this next interview, and you may want to suggest to

(27:25):
them that they go to a night side and demand
sometime tomorrow morning and listen to the interview as well.
I think it will be self evidence when you're self
evident when you listen to the interview. We're coming right
back on night Side.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Okay, spring break is upon us, and of course spring
break for different colleges and different college students occurs in
different weeks. It's funny when you look the entire month
of March. They're telling stories about the bring breakers and
all of that. Well, most kids get like a week
somewhere and if they go to Florida or wherever the Caribbean. Uh,

(28:08):
and is like particularly if they're juniors or seniors, maybe
sophomore a friend, it's party time, uh and their god
can be down. So with me is doctor Abide Nazaire.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
He is an advisor and addiction psychiatrist, Chief Medical Office
officer at Hope Mark Health, doctor Nazir, thank you for
joining us tonight. How are you?

Speaker 6 (28:34):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
I'm doing wonderful. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Okay. You are with a group called Defend D E
F E N T Okay, which we're going to talk
about in a little a little later. It's a it's
a detection device for fentanyl. I think the best protection

(28:58):
against fentanyl is don't mess with anything anything other than
you know, beer or alcohol out of a bottle. But
for the dangers are federal. Let's let's put it on
the line here. This this is nothing more than a
killer drug.

Speaker 6 (29:14):
Oh yes, it's it is one of the most deadliest
drugs that are out there. And not only out there,
it's you know, growing, growing amount is out there and
you don't need a lot for it to be dangerous.
So this over the last you know, last ten to
fifteen years, have been rising in fatalities from fentanyl specifically.

(29:40):
So it's an extremely dangerous drug that can really show
up in a lot of different ways, whether it's intentionally
using it or even unintentionally.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Let's deal let's deal with the intentionally first. Why would
anyone in their right mind with all the publicity that
we've we've heard about fentanyl, Why would anyone in their
right mind, And maybe it's because they're not their right
mind voluntarily digest a pill that they believe has fentyl
involved it in it. Are there some people who think

(30:10):
they can take this drug and they have this great
high and they can survive.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
Yeah, So when you when you really talk about the
concept of intentional use, meaning somebody really that is what
their attention is to use fentinil the most one of
the most common I guess stories behind that. A lot
of times it starts when somebody uses a different opioid drug.
Fentanyl is an opioid. It's a synthetic opioid, so it's

(30:37):
manufactured in a lab and and it is you know,
oftentimes cut into heroin and many other different types of drugs.
It can get cut into. It's cheaper to make, and
it increases the high. So for somebody who is selling
less drugs, it actually will cause somebody to get addicted

(30:58):
faster and enjoy the high more. But what happens is
people sometimes it could be a pain condition. They were
prescribed opioids just for pain, control. And with time, as
you develop tolerance to opioids, and then you're not you
don't get the same effects, so you don't get the
same pain relief. And then somebody, let's say, loses access

(31:20):
to their prescribed opioid, and now then they need to
find it in other means. And once you try finding
opioids in another in another way, whether even whether it's
like heroin or then or heroin lace with fentanyl. Once
somebody has a physical, physiological, and psychological addiction to opioids,

(31:43):
Fentanyl is one of the strongest opioids out there, somebody's
tolerance level goes higher and higher. They're looking for something
stronger to get that effect.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Wow wow. Okay, So let's talk about the college student,
a teenager eighteen ninety years old, first time away from home,
and there were at a party and someone says, hey,
I got this really cool dog. You want one of these? Uh?
You know kids had a couple of beers and says, oh,
why not? You know, I'm not in high school anymore.

(32:14):
Is that the way that that plays out with a
lot of these kids?

Speaker 6 (32:17):
Sadly, yes, it definitely can play out that way, you know,
in general, and you know, a younger population. Let's say
spring break time, there's a heavy party happening. There are
a lot of different drugs that are in higher prevalence
in a situation like that when you're in a party,
especially you know, in college.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Then once they're at this party, it could be that, hey,
here's some you know, a different pills.

Speaker 6 (32:45):
They think maybe they're taking m D M A. But
the m D M A or ecstasy is laced with
fentinel or maybe it was you know, cocaine, and cocaine
oftentimes gets cut with fent toil. So a lot of
times it's just unintentional there. When you start with alcohol,
you're disinhibited more. You're just more likely to make that

(33:05):
bad decision to try something else. And maybe they don't
understand the dangers of fentanyl or the fentanyls in that
product we see. I mean, there's been so many overdose
deaths over this last especially over this last ten twenty
years at just rising rates. So it's really it's really
it's a sad situation. But the key is just knowledge

(33:27):
for somebody to know that fentanyl could be in this drug.
Somebody knew who's drinking let's say alcohol in their spring break.
They're having fun and parting. It may not be that
they go straight from that to say I need to
find fentinyl. It's usually like there's usually kind of steps
in between. Many times, like that's not their ability to.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
That is what you're saying.

Speaker 6 (33:50):
I think exactly. That's a great way to put it.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Doctor is here again. You have you represent a company
called Defend de f E n T. You're an advisor
and addiction psychotherapist. Uh, and there's a this company, Defend
has a fentanyl detection device. Tell us about that, and

(34:14):
I mean, it sounds horrible that you have to have
such a product. But tell us about that product and
how people can get it, and is it possible that
they can give it, you know, save to their kids
when they go off on spring break. Hey, take this
with you. Is it easy to use? Tell us about
it if you can? Sure?

Speaker 5 (34:32):
Sure?

Speaker 6 (34:33):
So you know, I'm yes, I'm an advisor for this company, Defend.
I you know, I'm an addiction psychiatrist and I have
my own practices. Hope mark out. Then we we treat
addiction right. So, And I've worked in many different settings
for treating substance use disorders. And when you know, when

(34:53):
I found out about Defend and what their product is about,
you know, it really drew me to want to be
in in this company because this we always think of,
like all right, hey, what do we do with somebody overdoses?

Speaker 5 (35:06):
Right?

Speaker 6 (35:06):
Hey, then there's no lock zone. You can give a
you know, injection of noxon or but that is after
the overdose, right, and you need somebody there that knows
how to use the lozone. The loxzone needs to be available,
it needs to be ready to go right at that point,
because this is this is a matter of minutes. Somebody
can die when somebody overdoses on something. So Defend is

(35:28):
coming at it. Even it's a harm harm reduction approach
is primary prevention, meaning like okay, let's not even get
to the point of the overdose. So to Defend one
device basically, it's it's like an it's an all in
one fentanyl detection device. It's really the world's first and only,
like patent pending, it's a portable the detection device that,

(35:52):
like the whole purpose is designed to make testing substances
very quick and easy.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Well, I'm getting tied on time. Is is this available
commercially or is it simply patent pending.

Speaker 6 (36:04):
No, So it is available now and it's accurate. It
is very well supported in terms of their accuracy with studies.
But it's Amazon dot com. You can go to defend
f E n T dot com and purchase it directly
from there.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Okay. And is this something that is you know, small
that someone can put in their pocket or in their
purse and have with them. How how large is this product?

Speaker 6 (36:29):
Not large at all? It's yes, it can fit in
your pocket or in your purse. It has everything you
need altogether. The pre measured scoop has everything you need.
Just to test it and within two three minutes you
can get your inaccurate result is sent to the present
or not in whatever substance you're set testing perfect.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Okay, So it's on Amazon at defend f E n
T dot com. Doctor Nasir, thank you very much for
what you do and the lives that I'm sure you
have saved doing it like this.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
I do appreciate it, appreciate that.

Speaker 6 (37:02):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
You're very welcome. We'll talk again, I hope someday. We
are going to take a quick break here for the
nine o'clock news and we get back We're going to
delve into the politics of Washington. It's been an interesting
week between DC and Wall Street and tariffs and Ukraine,
and we're going to sort it all out on the
other side of the break
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