May 13, 2025 • 39 mins
We kicked off the program with four news stories and different guests on the stories we think you need to know about!
Wayne Soares - Author of ‘Honored to Serve: In Their Own Words’ – A book with a collection of stories from veterans who served this country.
Captain Jessica Berkhoudt - Corps Officer, Director of Newburyport Community Center at The Salvation Army, Massachusetts Division discussed the Salvation Army of Newburyport Laps for Lunches Walk-a-thon & Family Fair Coming up this Saturday May 17th!
Professor Greg Stoller of Boston University checked in to discuss the various trade deals of President Trump.
Kevin Deabler, Co-Founder and Principal at RODE Architects joined Dan to discuss The Boys & Girls Clubs of Dorchester and the Martin Richard Foundation who broke ground on The FieldHouse+, a state-of-the-art athletic and recreational facility designed to serve Boston youth of all ages and abilities! All about The FieldHouse+ and its community engagement.
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Wayne Soares - Author of ‘Honored to Serve: In Their Own Words’ – A book with a collection of stories from veterans who served this country.
Captain Jessica Berkhoudt - Corps Officer, Director of Newburyport Community Center at The Salvation Army, Massachusetts Division discussed the Salvation Army of Newburyport Laps for Lunches Walk-a-thon & Family Fair Coming up this Saturday May 17th!
Professor Greg Stoller of Boston University checked in to discuss the various trade deals of President Trump.
Kevin Deabler, Co-Founder and Principal at RODE Architects joined Dan to discuss The Boys & Girls Clubs of Dorchester and the Martin Richard Foundation who broke ground on The FieldHouse+, a state-of-the-art athletic and recreational facility designed to serve Boston youth of all ages and abilities! All about The FieldHouse+ and its community engagement.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's a nice eye. I'm going mazy Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thank you, Madison. What a difference a day makes about
this time last night, everybody was feeling pretty good about
the Celtics. They were headed halftime and they looked like
they were on their way to evening up the series,
and things all change. Best of luck, thoughts and prayers
for Jason Tatum tonight. Hopefully he can get back on
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the court at some point next year. That's really what
it comes down to. He certainly won't be ready for
training camp down. Achilles injury is a tough one. My
name is Dan Ray. A lot has happened in the
last twenty four hours. And as a matter of fact,
we have a new producer. His name is Rob Brooks. Rob,
welcome back, how are you? Very? Rarely is Rob ever
(00:51):
away for any extended period of time, so I was
joking with him tonight, but no, Rob is back in
his regular position. Ready to set your calls up. No
calls until nine o'clock tonight. But we will talk with
Boston City Councilor Ed Flint about the job status of
another city councilor who has pled guilty to a federal indictment.
(01:14):
We'll also talk about the gift of this Boeing seven
forty seven jumbo jet airliner that has generated so much controversy,
and we'll see what all of you think about that.
But first we are going to go through our guests
in our first hour. By the way, I should reintroduce myself.
I am the afore mentioned Dan Ray, the host of Nightside,
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and joined now by our first guest of the evening,
Wayne Sours, who's an author. He has combined and worked
on a book with a mutual friend of ours by
the name of Mark Lund, Honored to serve in their
own words, a book with a collection of stories from
veterans who have served this country. This is coming out
before Memorial Day. Wayne, Welcome back to Night's Side. How
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are you?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Hey? Very well, Dan? How about yourself?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Doing great? Doing great? What? When? What's the genesis of
this idea? It sounds like a great idea on it
to serve in the wrong words. But how did you
and Mark one to come up with this idea?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Well, I have to say I provided the stories. I
have a syndicated column called Veteran Spotlight, which I've been
doing for the last oh ten or eleven years and
all these stories that I'm that I'm writing. And Mark
and I think we were having lunch one day and
he said, geez, ever thought about doing a book? And
I yeah, right, And and I will say this, Mark's
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just skill and expertise in framing the book and just
what he brought to the table is phenomenal. And I'm very,
very very proud of this book. What we tried to
do is we've tried to humanize the person, the man
or woman that served our country, Dan and and I
think that anytime we can highlight or showcase in the
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positive and appropriate fashion, I think that's just that that
really makes the people that have served our country, It really,
you know, makes them feel good. And that's what this
is all about.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So again the title wanted to serve in their own words.
Over the years, I guess you have done about eight
hundred interviews with men and women who answered the call.
And I kind of imagine that all eight hundred interviews
are in the book. But how many are in the
book and what military engagements does the book span?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Well, it goes from world worth is probably about eighty.
I think we have eighty stories and I'm already working
on the second book, because they're just they're just really
very very very summer just out of the ordinary. Some
are very very very powerful. They're heart wrenching, and it
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goes expans from World War Two to present and we've
got Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard and it
was a real thrill, uh in honor not to be cliches,
to write this book. The oldest person that we have
and is a very very very good friend of mine.
His name is his all name Team Tiso Masaconi. He's
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a one hundred and two years old World War Two
vet and was at Pearl Harbor after the Japanese bombed
they brought the army in uh and then he went
to the Battle of Saikan. He was he was a
combat warrior and then he was at Iwo Jima for
about eight months. And I mean to be one hundred
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and two years old, I mean unbelievable. And he's still
he's still got you know, he's still got all of
his faculties. You know, his eyesight. You know, he had
a little trouble with the curveball, but he does so some.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
From as early as World War Two and people who
are currently serving.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I assume no, No, it's right up to the veterans
up until you know the present time, not existing about
active military, okay, it's about the veterans, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And this book was published in March. The publication date
is March nineteenth, so it's fresh off the presses, well
timed for Memorial Day, for summer reading, for Father's Day, birthdays, everything.
It sounds like a like a great book. And I
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do think that there is a there's a real renaissance
I think in this country of people who want to
serve and people who respect and admire those who put
on the uniform for whatever branch of the service and
for whatever purpose, but they do spend some time in
service to the country. And I think there's been a
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huge shift in this country. Those of us who are
old enough to remember the Vietnam era, when wearing the
uniform was not something that people respected sadly, but obviously,
I think in the last thirty or so years, with
the threat of terrorism at home, people understand that being
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in the military is not going somewhere around the world
on an adventure. You're going somewhere to make sure that
those battles are not brought to our shore. I think
we have. I think most people have learned that and
understood it.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Is that.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Is that, in your opinion, something that people perhaps now
more appreciate those who donned the uniform.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, very much so. I think there's there's a lot
of Vietnam veterans in there. The thing that I'm very happy,
delighted and proud of is that a lot of the
veterans that are in that book, I don't know the
exact percentage, but over fifty percent never talked about their service.
And I'm very honored that they felt comfortable with me.
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And I want to thank good friend of mine, Brigadier
General Don Quenville, who did the forward to the book,
and he's very, very very kind to me with his words.
But one Vietnam veteran had said to me, you know,
fifty some years ago, absolutely Ethne hated us, and now
they love us. And I think that's that's how far,
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you know, we've come in that and my purpose for
including the Vietnam veterans and that was to give him
they were welcome home. As we all know that they
were scorned and ridiculed and verbally sometimes physically abused, and
so I wanted to include them in there and give them,
you know, their long overdue welcome home.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
There were a lot of there were a lot of
Korean War veterans also as fully appreciated. They were sort
of like a hybrid. I mean, everybody from World War Two,
I think we understood. Are those generations understood the danger
of the country faced? Uh? Probably Korea was a less
understood war. And then Vietnam obviously was the war that
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that a lot of people really felt was unnecessary and
ill and ill informed. But they took it out on
the warriors, not on the politicians who made the decisions. Well,
it sounds like it sounds like a great read. How
can they get it and what's the I mean? Obviously
I know that they can always go through probably Amazon
and places like that. But do you folks have a
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website where they can where they can order it through
you and perhaps get it inscribed.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yes, yes, yes, for a signed copy Veterans dash spotlight
dot com. Veterans dash spotlight dot com. You can also
order it off of Amazon. But if you would like
a signed copy Veterans dash spot like dot com and
I actually sent a copy for you inscribe to the studio.
So if you swing by it sometime to the next
week or two, you'll be able to get your copy
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and read the whole.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I appreciate that. I should be there tomorrow actually, so
depending on when you sent it, we'll pick it up
and we'll read it, and we will share it with
some people who will also appreciate it as well. That's
the good thing about these books. These books are not
necessarily things you want to just read and put in
a library. That you give them to other people and
allow them to experience and read the stories as well.
(09:34):
Wayne sours, thanks so much. Please say hid to mark
one for me when you get a chance to talk
with them. Okay, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Will Dan, thank you so much. Yeah, yes it is.
And thank you so much for the time. You're an
equally great guy. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
You're very welcome. Thanks to the kind where it's Wayne,
talk soon, okay, all right, when we get back, we're
going to also talk about a different type of army.
This one is the Salvation Army up in Newvery We're
going to be talking with the captain from the Salvation
Army up there. They're raising funds this weekend. We want
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you to be aware of that. We will also talk
with an architect about the Martin Richard Fieldhouse which is
going to be constructed in Dorchester. And we'll also talk
with Professor Staller, Greg Staller of Boston University, the Questrom
(10:26):
School of Business, and we normally have him on as
a guest to take phone calls, but I thought that
tonight want to get sort of a quick update from
him and analysis during this hour when we don't have
phone calls, and talk about what is the significance of
the ninety day pause for further negotiations on tariff's or
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tariff relief between the United States and China, and of
course other negotiations as well. My name is Dan Ray.
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more great guests coming up. Stay with us here on
night Side.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
It's night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
All right, welcome back. I am delighted to go from
Wayne Sores talking about those who serve in the military
to Captain Jessica Burkhout. Have I pronounced that name correctly?
I hope I have. Captain.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I am well, Dan, thank you and yes, you did
pronounce it right. Thank you very much for having me
this evening.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
You're very welcome. Why you guys in the Salvation Army
do so much good and you're with the Salvation Army
of New Report and this weekend you have a walkathon.
It's also a family fair. It sounds like it's going
to be a great day. Hopefully the Weather's going to
hold Saturday, May seventeenth. It's laps for lunches. Tell us
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about it. I know what it's about, but I'm sure
you're gonna be able to explain it better than I can.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Oh. Yeah, it is going to be quite the exciting event.
It isn't our It is our inaugural event, and it
is to raise funds for our food security programs to
address food insecurity. Weekend is going to be filled with
uh well that Saturday will be filled with food trucks, games,
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bounce houses, a DJ, We'll have music, We'll have some
uh booths out there for community knowledge, and then of
course our walk where we have teams and individuals that
will be walking the track for each lap, raising funds
for our social service programs, specifically in food security.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Okay, now, you guys serve more than new Report. You
serve Amesbury Byfield, Newbury, New Report, Rowley, Salisbury and West Newsbury,
Newbury all up there sort of and I would consider
like the Cape Ann area.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Would that be the Well No, No, that that's fight.
Those are all the locations we call it up here,
the greater Newberry Poor area.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
That's fine, Report beautiful. Anyone who's never been to Newburyport.
It's a great it's a beautiful city, a beautiful coastal
New England city. This will be already tended to at
the Bradley Fuller Park, forty Low Street in Newburyport. We'll
get to all of that in a moment. But you
got from ten o'clock, you got the walk and the
family fair begins. You got a kickoff party, You've got
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food trucks at eleven, you got a DJ.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yeah, it's going to be a great day, a great
day for family and friends in the community, just to
come together and celebrate community while also fundraising for an
amazing cause to support our families and households that we
love so dearly. Here.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Now, how much of a problem is this something that
will be for kids benefit kids in school during the
day or is this for families you know, at home
at night to provide them with dinners and all of that.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
So Dan, it's both The Salvation Army Social service and
food and security programs provides multiple areas of food security
here at the Newberry Court Salvation Army. We provide food
security in several areas. One we have a community meal
program where we provide our neighbors and guests with lunch, dinner,
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and breakfast during the week where individuals can come and
either sit down in our cafe and enjoy the hot
meal there, or several families like to come and pick
up and then enjoy that meal at home in the
evening time with their children and their families. Then we
also have an emergency food pantry where households can come
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and shop the food pantry for the items that they
need in our households. And then we also have things
like gift cards and school vacation Week School vacation Week.
I have four kids under the age of twelve, and
when school vacation comes, they eat me out of the
house and I swear my food budgets doubles when they
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are home for April vacation or Christmas vacation. So we
have a program where we pack extra available food items
and meals for the week so that families who do
have their children home for vacation will be able to
have snacks and different food items to just kind of
help them along the week so that they can ensure
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that they have all the items that they need for food.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Now, is this the type of program that the Salvation
Army is doing in various cities around the Commonwealth. Or
is this something that you're doing a new report and
is a real emphasis and push that you folks have
decided to take on.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
So I think both. I think that there are several
locations and many over the over Massachusetts that have very
similar programs to us, like the feeding programs and our
food pantries, and even different seasonal opportunities for items for
food and meal programs. As far as the holiday breaks,
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that has been something that we've created here because there's
been a great need and we noticed that need about
three years ago. And I related to it very much
as well when I saw that when my children were
home from school they're now all fully school aged kiddos,
that it is tough on the budget when your meals
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double and sometimes triple breakfast, lunch, and dinner and all
their snacks and so it can get expensive.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
So this is Saturday, this coming Saturday, May seventeenth, give
us the easiest website. Obviously, people in the new report
area are going to know how to get in contact
with but if anyone can't participate, they want to make
a donation, They want to get information as to how
they can participate. What's the best way to get in
contact with you?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yes, the best way to get in contact would go
would be for them to go to Salvation ARMYMA dot
org backslash new very poor that will have all the
information where they can learn more and they can even
register to walk or participate in the event.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Salvation Army m a LA or backslash news report. Perfect.
That's perfect, made it easy. Thanks so much. I really
appreciate it, Captain Jessica Burkout.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Thank you, Dan, welcome, talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Thanks very mentioning best of on Saturday. The weather holds
our pleasure.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Yes, that's what we're waiting for. Thank you so much, Dan,
have a great evening, you too.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Good night. All right, we get back to talk about
the tariffs. The ninety day pause in the tariff war,
not a ceasefire. Maybe it is a ceasefires, but will
it's a point where I want to talk and we
will in the next segment with our friend Professor Greg Staller.
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He is a China expert, having bend to China about
fifty times in his academic career taking students over there,
and he's a professor Business professor at the Questroom Business
School at Boston University. So we'll talk with Professor Staller
right after the news at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Delighted to be joined by good friend, Professor Greg Staller
of Boston University, the Questroom Business School. Greg, I know
that in the next couple of weeks we will do
another hour where we get people to ask you questions
about this, because I don't care. Most people, me included,
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are trying to figure out what the heck's going on now.
We had Liberation Day on April second, when Donald Trump
announced the Golden Age of America had begun. The stock
market tanked, and slowly but surely it seems to have
come back. And this week it was announced in Europe
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that the war the trade war, there's a ceasefire for
ninety days. Can you explain in layman's terms what's going
on here?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Absolutely, and by the way, thank you again for the
opportunity to return. I would call this a targeted tariff reduction.
I wouldn't call this a trade deal. I would and
again I think we need to differentiate amongst the UK deal,
what's going on in China and the other countries around
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the globe. I think bespoke is probably the best term
to use in terms of this being customized. I think
this is all a move in the right direction, but
I wouldn't call it a victory for any one country,
including the United States.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, okay, let's talk. Let's talk about the deal with
the United Kingdom, which generated a lot of interest about
a week ago. What's the bottom line. I'm sort of
one of those guys that I want to know what
the score is. Are the Red Sox winning or losing
in by how much?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I feel the same way. I think that if you
look at it in terms of the details, you know,
from the inside out, it accomplishes three things. It reduces
tariffs so specific goods. It maintains a tariff on most goods,
and by the way, the specific goods it reduces it
on are British cars, some steel, some aluminum, et cetera.
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And it's also looking to protect jobs in key sectors
like car manufacturing and steel, et cetera. Again, I don't
want to insult your listeners by repeating myself, but these
are all steps in the right direction. But to your
point about you know, getting down the brass tats. It
is a three month test, and the jury still out
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as to whether this is going to become permanent or not.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Including the British the British US deal which they announced
with such fans here also is a tentative. It's in
place for ninety days, and it could be it could
be blown up ninety days from now by either side.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Is that the circus, that's correct?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I mean, this is my take on and I've said
on your show so many times over the years that
I'm not a political scientist, I'm not an economist, but
just from a regular business person's perspective, I think that
President Trump didn't have much of a choice. It was
only until today that some of the stock industries have
gotten back into the black. For twenty twenty five, the
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bond market's been going crazy, His approval rating has been tanking.
I think this is his effort to try and stabilize everything.
You know, we know from the Federal Reserve today that
inflation has sort of been tamped down, but it's still
very much a work in progress. I think his constituents,
as well as people who made donations to help him
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get elected, were raising their hands saying, what the heck's
going on here? So I think that whether it's the UK,
I think, whether it's China, I think it's whether it's Japan,
and the South Koreans can calling to the White House.
These are all ways to sort of placate his constituents
as well, many of whom were business executives, and say
let's try and do a pause and let's see if
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we can ameliorate things over the next ninety days.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
But when he when somehow, some way we reached out
to China, I believe that was the sequence. If China
had wanted to, they could have said, hey, we're not
even going to talk to you, never mind negotiate with you.
So the fact that China came to the table and
they've had this conversation. According to President Trump, we were
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big time in the whole in terms of money that
we were spending on tariffs and we were not getting
it coming in. I mean, when this is finally done
and finally settled, there will be an accounting.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
There will be an accounting. And I think it's important
for all of us, you, myself, your listeners, et cetera,
to not conclude that this is a permanent trade deal,
and I say permanent, there are still ten percent tariffs
that are out there, and with respect to China, and
if you look at what's going on FEDNOL, you know,
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all of that has not been eliminated. But I think
this is the epitome, at least visa via Chinese of
the term saving face is. Let me just sets the thought.
The shin Hua News agency, which is all in Chinese,
coming up, they have, you know, given a very typical
Chinese response. The road ahead still requires both sides to
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explore and shape it together with wisdom and courage, but
we consider it to be a great victory.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I think we could say the same thing in reverse
from the White House dot gov website.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
But when you're talking about China, we're talking about you know,
we're talking about access to some rare earth minerals that
we need. You're talking about computer chips. Uh, you're talking
about intellectual theft, because that's a big problem our many
of our companies have lost billions of dollars to what's
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called intellectual theft. So I mean there's there's more to
it just than how much we're going to charge you
and you're going to charge us.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
One hundred percent agree.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
And you, my audience needs to understand that. And again
I'm not bragging on you here, but but but you
you're you. You are linguistically capable in seven languages, and
you read and speak Chinese. You've done you had fifty
trips at least to China since nineteen ninety four, so
you know the interior of that country. So you know sociologically,
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maybe not politically, but sociologically. Uh. And so you can
read the statements that come out of Beijing and put
your own interpretation on what they're saying and what they
are trying to say and what and in addition, what
they're implying, because that's the average person is not going
to be able to look at the printed language or
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listen to the verbiage and have that ability to to
understand that on all of those different levels. That's why
you're so important to my audience. And I mean that
all in all honesty. So now let me just finish
up here. With a couple of minutes that we have left,
it's going to get quiet. The turbulence of April has
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has settled down. Okay, how long do you think I'm
not asking for a stock market prediction. But how long
do you think the turbulence will stay relatively calm, because
it's got to pick up again as we get close
to the ninety days. I assume it's not.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Right. I think the most interesting data point that I've
been reading about for the past couple of days is
people are pressing send on their order books as fast
as humanly possible. The stock of several transportation companies, whether
they be on oceans or whether they be trucking companies,
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their stocks are up. Everybody's putting the orders in now
and probably stocking up on inventory they're hoping to fill
because nobody knows what's going to happen ninety days. Hence,
and so I know, sort of a nod answer to
the question, no, no, no, no matter is the stock
market is booming for the moment, and the orders are
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whizzing across the internet for the bulvit because people figure
one in the hand is better than two in the bush.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Right. But but there's nothing that the market dislikes more.
The market wants some form of certainty. And as we
get closer to this ninety day and period, and at
the end of this ninety day period uncertain he's gonna
bubble up again unless it's just smooth sailing. But I
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can't imagine it's gonna be smooth.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I'm not so sure how i'd agree with that, Dan,
because look what happened was then the ninety day deadline
came and went, and they just kicked the can down
the road and extended it. The same thing with TikTok
is we were all set for a firm decision with
all of the you know, with all of the nineties
and the fourteen piece orchestra performing. That wasn't needed. It
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was just kicked down the road. But for the moment,
you know, my contacts are saying, we'll take it to
your point a few minutes ago, stability growth no a
lot during twenty twenty five, we'll take you.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
But TikTok still has to get resolved.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
And that's what I'm agreeing with you.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
That's part of the whole conversation. Yeah, okay, so we're just.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
We're kicking the can down the road.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
And you know, again, it looks at whether you're a
glass half full or glass half empty curved first, right,
the half full part of me says, well, forward progress
is better than nothing. The balls will be down the field.
The half empty part of me says, yeah, but nothing's
really been memorialized here yet. It's still, to your point,
a work in progress.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Well, I appreciate you being available tonight and giving us
this UH, this update. We'll do something in a couple
of weeks from now, when when the horizon gets a
little closer and the UH and our vision becomes a
little clearer. Greg Stahler of the Question School of Business
at Boston University is always you're the best. Thanks Thanks, professor,
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appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
My pleasure. Thanks again, Dan, talk to you.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Okay. When we get back, we're going to talk about
the Martin Richard Fieldhouse, a magnificent structure that will be
built in Dorchester and will benefit generations of young people
in the memory of one of the four people who
lost their lives on the day of the twenty thirteen
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Boston Marathon, eight year old Martin Richard. Will be back
and talk about this field house and what a tremendous
legacy from Martin Richard. This will be right after the break.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
All right, welcome back.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
I think all of us remember the horrific events of
the Boston Marathon twelve years ago April of twenty thirteen,
that took the lives of four people and eventually an
Mit police officer and a Boston Police officer.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
The youngest of the victims, eight year old Martin Richard
of Dorchester, became sort of a symbol of innocence in childhood,
snatched by the heinous actions of the people who put
those pressure cooker bombs on people watching the marathon as
they stood on Boylston Street. However, out of something as
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horrific as that now rising as the Martin Richard field House,
a lot of people have been involved in that with
us is Kevin Diebler, Kevin Hope, I pronounced your name correctly.
You're dead and you're an architect with a company called
Road Architects. So you, folks, des I understand, are involved
in the construction of this, this wonderful field house, which
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is going to be a gathering spot for generations of kids.
You must be thrilled to be involved with something as
as significant as this this field house.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
Yes, and I am really excited to be here tonight. Dan,
thanks for letting me talk about this project and you know,
I'm Kevin Kevin Devar and more of the co founders
of Roady Architects, and we are a firm that kind
of got start in Dorchester about twenty years ago. So
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raising our families in Dorchester. My business partner Eric Robinson
and I, you know, we're we're community members and I
would say everyone in Dorchester was very much affected by
that tragedy and it isn't sort of on our minds
that we would play a role in trying to sort
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of lift up the community with this this project. And
we're you know, our our families, you know, can know
the Richards. We play sports, we do activities and arts
with them, and it was a moment where people did
focus on the good things that happened in Dorchester. And
I think that the Richard family really kind of we're
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sort of that representation of people who care for their community.
So because of the you know circumstances and the you know,
uh having their their family impacted by that, we were
all very much taken by that kind of community that
that surrounded them with love and support, and it is
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just kind of like an amazing thing to be a
part of, you know, looking back at it.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
So let's talk a little bit about the building, the architect.
I know that the there was a ceremony earlier this
month if I'm not or late last month. Yes, the
basically it was the groundbreaking how how many people will
this fieldhouse accommodate? Give us a sense of how big
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it is, what it will involve. You're the architect, you
probably know it better than anyone.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
Well, that's true, and others on our team, Lucas and
Aana definitely know the building even better than I do
because they work on it day, day by day. But
it took us nine years to to pull this off.
It was finding land near a Boston public school, The
Ruth bats And Academy right next door has a thousand
kids that we'll be able to use this on a
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daily basis, So that that in and of itself is
pretty amazing that there's going to be this facility for that.
But within a three mile radius, as we were kind
of studying how this project could impact, there's about fifty
thousand kids, and that means that there are you know,
many thousands of families in there that need the kind
of support that the field House will provide. And that
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also comes with making sure that we want to mention
the Boys and Girls Clubs of Dorchester playing, you know,
a huge role in this. They will be the sort
of group that can program the facility and sort of
operate it under the way that Boys and Girls Clubs
do their work and their sort of presence in the
Dorchester community has always been kind of comforting to families,
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working families, and you know, I think that the real
sort of challenge here is to make sure that we
can do as much as possible under this one roof.
So it has sports facilities, it's got wellness arts, it
has spaces for people that have some counseling, and just
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really a big focus on inclusion and people living with disabilities.
So there's there's so many good things to talk about
and mostly what we're about to build.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Will will this technically be the boy the Dorchester Boys
and Girls Club or will it simply be a great
facility run by the What's what's the official status? Is
what I just want to it's a.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
Bit sure, well, you know, we're actually calling at the
Fieldhouse plus and it it really is going to be
part of the Boys and Girls Clubs of Dorchester's campus.
And there's a building right across the street that is
sort of the Walter Denny Center, and that really has
been serving the Harbor Point and uh, you know neighborhood
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for for many years. And then the clubs all have
two facilities, the mar and the McLoughlin Center that's over
in the more proper neighborhood of Dorchester. But this new
area will be like a new campus that will serve
the entire you know, Columbia Point peninsula out there and
be part of all those institutions that are out there.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
And so I'm sure you'll have basketball courts, swimming pool
or is it.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Ye as two hard courts and that sort of the
The focus started really at the top though. It was
a turf facility, and we were looking for places in
Dorchester to find the room that could house a turf facility.
It was one of these things as parents in Dorchester
spent a lot of time on rainy ball fields and
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there really aren't places to practice in the in the
off season like other kids in suburbs have, and you know,
you travel around and see these amazing facil So it
really started with like trying to get this type of
indoor turf facility off the ground, and then as we
found the land right next to this school, we realized
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that the open space on that land is also very important,
so we started to make the building a little bit taller.
We've found out we could really almost make it work
with three courts, but we ended up with two full
sized basketball courts, second floor track that can walk around,
so everybody can sort of watch their kids while they
walk and get some exercise. But then it has a
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whole nother wing to it, which includes a theater, teaching kitchen,
music clubhouse, and other offices and spaces that can support
and provide wrap around services.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
It's like just a fabulous facility in the memory of
a very special little boy. Martin Richard Kevin appreciate the explanation.
I really now have a sense of it, and I've
talked to people about it, but you really have sort
of focused it for me and hopefully for others, and
now it'll be great when it is finally up and running. Finally,
last quick question, what is the hope. I know that
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they're doing very well in terms of raising the funds necessary,
but do they have a open the doordate yet? Approximately?
Speaker 6 (38:14):
Yes, I think we hope to be complete in about
eighteen months. That should be at the end of twenty
twenty six, opening doors, cutting the ribbon. At that point,
fundraising is continuing to happen. They're at about fifty five
million for a seventy million dollars you know building, and
this is seventy five thousand square feet state of the
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art facility, so the opportunity to give is definitely still there.
So they have a little bit left to raise, but
we're definitely seeing the finish line come up. And very
very excited to talk to you tonight, Dan, So thanks
for giving us.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Your record to talk with you. Kevin Diebler, co founder
and principal of Road Rode Architects, Kevin posted and we'll
talk again. Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
Thank you, Dan.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Take care yep, all right, we come back.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
We're going to talk with Boston City councilor Ed Flynn
about what is going on in the Boston City Council
and maybe it is time for an ethics standard at
Boston City Hall, including for the Boston City Council. We'll
get to all of that right after the news break
at nine o'clock.
It's a nice eye. I'm going mazy Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thank you, Madison. What a difference a day makes about
this time last night, everybody was feeling pretty good about
the Celtics. They were headed halftime and they looked like
they were on their way to evening up the series,
and things all change. Best of luck, thoughts and prayers
for Jason Tatum tonight. Hopefully he can get back on
(00:30):
the court at some point next year. That's really what
it comes down to. He certainly won't be ready for
training camp down. Achilles injury is a tough one. My
name is Dan Ray. A lot has happened in the
last twenty four hours. And as a matter of fact,
we have a new producer. His name is Rob Brooks. Rob,
welcome back, how are you? Very? Rarely is Rob ever
(00:51):
away for any extended period of time, so I was
joking with him tonight, but no, Rob is back in
his regular position. Ready to set your calls up. No
calls until nine o'clock tonight. But we will talk with
Boston City Councilor Ed Flint about the job status of
another city councilor who has pled guilty to a federal indictment.
(01:14):
We'll also talk about the gift of this Boeing seven
forty seven jumbo jet airliner that has generated so much controversy,
and we'll see what all of you think about that.
But first we are going to go through our guests
in our first hour. By the way, I should reintroduce myself.
I am the afore mentioned Dan Ray, the host of Nightside,
(01:35):
and joined now by our first guest of the evening,
Wayne Sours, who's an author. He has combined and worked
on a book with a mutual friend of ours by
the name of Mark Lund, Honored to serve in their
own words, a book with a collection of stories from
veterans who have served this country. This is coming out
before Memorial Day. Wayne, Welcome back to Night's Side. How
(01:59):
are you?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Hey? Very well, Dan? How about yourself?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Doing great? Doing great? What? When? What's the genesis of
this idea? It sounds like a great idea on it
to serve in the wrong words. But how did you
and Mark one to come up with this idea?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Well, I have to say I provided the stories. I
have a syndicated column called Veteran Spotlight, which I've been
doing for the last oh ten or eleven years and
all these stories that I'm that I'm writing. And Mark
and I think we were having lunch one day and
he said, geez, ever thought about doing a book? And
I yeah, right, And and I will say this, Mark's
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just skill and expertise in framing the book and just
what he brought to the table is phenomenal. And I'm very,
very very proud of this book. What we tried to
do is we've tried to humanize the person, the man
or woman that served our country, Dan and and I
think that anytime we can highlight or showcase in the
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positive and appropriate fashion, I think that's just that that
really makes the people that have served our country, It really,
you know, makes them feel good. And that's what this
is all about.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So again the title wanted to serve in their own words.
Over the years, I guess you have done about eight
hundred interviews with men and women who answered the call.
And I kind of imagine that all eight hundred interviews
are in the book. But how many are in the
book and what military engagements does the book span?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Well, it goes from world worth is probably about eighty.
I think we have eighty stories and I'm already working
on the second book, because they're just they're just really
very very very summer just out of the ordinary. Some
are very very very powerful. They're heart wrenching, and it
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goes expans from World War Two to present and we've
got Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard and it
was a real thrill, uh in honor not to be cliches,
to write this book. The oldest person that we have
and is a very very very good friend of mine.
His name is his all name Team Tiso Masaconi. He's
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a one hundred and two years old World War Two
vet and was at Pearl Harbor after the Japanese bombed
they brought the army in uh and then he went
to the Battle of Saikan. He was he was a
combat warrior and then he was at Iwo Jima for
about eight months. And I mean to be one hundred
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and two years old, I mean unbelievable. And he's still
he's still got you know, he's still got all of
his faculties. You know, his eyesight. You know, he had
a little trouble with the curveball, but he does so some.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
From as early as World War Two and people who
are currently serving.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I assume no, No, it's right up to the veterans
up until you know the present time, not existing about
active military, okay, it's about the veterans, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And this book was published in March. The publication date
is March nineteenth, so it's fresh off the presses, well
timed for Memorial Day, for summer reading, for Father's Day, birthdays, everything.
It sounds like a like a great book. And I
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do think that there is a there's a real renaissance
I think in this country of people who want to
serve and people who respect and admire those who put
on the uniform for whatever branch of the service and
for whatever purpose, but they do spend some time in
service to the country. And I think there's been a
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huge shift in this country. Those of us who are
old enough to remember the Vietnam era, when wearing the
uniform was not something that people respected sadly, but obviously,
I think in the last thirty or so years, with
the threat of terrorism at home, people understand that being
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in the military is not going somewhere around the world
on an adventure. You're going somewhere to make sure that
those battles are not brought to our shore. I think
we have. I think most people have learned that and
understood it.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Is that.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Is that, in your opinion, something that people perhaps now
more appreciate those who donned the uniform.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, very much so. I think there's there's a lot
of Vietnam veterans in there. The thing that I'm very happy,
delighted and proud of is that a lot of the
veterans that are in that book, I don't know the
exact percentage, but over fifty percent never talked about their service.
And I'm very honored that they felt comfortable with me.
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And I want to thank good friend of mine, Brigadier
General Don Quenville, who did the forward to the book,
and he's very, very very kind to me with his words.
But one Vietnam veteran had said to me, you know,
fifty some years ago, absolutely Ethne hated us, and now
they love us. And I think that's that's how far,
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you know, we've come in that and my purpose for
including the Vietnam veterans and that was to give him
they were welcome home. As we all know that they
were scorned and ridiculed and verbally sometimes physically abused, and
so I wanted to include them in there and give them,
you know, their long overdue welcome home.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
There were a lot of there were a lot of
Korean War veterans also as fully appreciated. They were sort
of like a hybrid. I mean, everybody from World War Two,
I think we understood. Are those generations understood the danger
of the country faced? Uh? Probably Korea was a less
understood war. And then Vietnam obviously was the war that
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that a lot of people really felt was unnecessary and
ill and ill informed. But they took it out on
the warriors, not on the politicians who made the decisions. Well,
it sounds like it sounds like a great read. How
can they get it and what's the I mean? Obviously
I know that they can always go through probably Amazon
and places like that. But do you folks have a
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website where they can where they can order it through
you and perhaps get it inscribed.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yes, yes, yes, for a signed copy Veterans dash spotlight
dot com. Veterans dash spotlight dot com. You can also
order it off of Amazon. But if you would like
a signed copy Veterans dash spot like dot com and
I actually sent a copy for you inscribe to the studio.
So if you swing by it sometime to the next
week or two, you'll be able to get your copy
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and read the whole.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I appreciate that. I should be there tomorrow actually, so
depending on when you sent it, we'll pick it up
and we'll read it, and we will share it with
some people who will also appreciate it as well. That's
the good thing about these books. These books are not
necessarily things you want to just read and put in
a library. That you give them to other people and
allow them to experience and read the stories as well.
(09:34):
Wayne sours, thanks so much. Please say hid to mark
one for me when you get a chance to talk
with them. Okay, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Will Dan, thank you so much. Yeah, yes it is.
And thank you so much for the time. You're an
equally great guy. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
You're very welcome. Thanks to the kind where it's Wayne,
talk soon, okay, all right, when we get back, we're
going to also talk about a different type of army.
This one is the Salvation Army up in Newvery We're
going to be talking with the captain from the Salvation
Army up there. They're raising funds this weekend. We want
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you to be aware of that. We will also talk
with an architect about the Martin Richard Fieldhouse which is
going to be constructed in Dorchester. And we'll also talk
with Professor Staller, Greg Staller of Boston University, the Questrom
(10:26):
School of Business, and we normally have him on as
a guest to take phone calls, but I thought that
tonight want to get sort of a quick update from
him and analysis during this hour when we don't have
phone calls, and talk about what is the significance of
the ninety day pause for further negotiations on tariff's or
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tariff relief between the United States and China, and of
course other negotiations as well. My name is Dan Ray.
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(11:27):
to seven. My name is Dan Ray. This is Nightside.
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and Noah for four nights. But Rob's back there and
he's ready to go. And we'll get to the phone
calls right after the nine o'clock news. We have three
more great guests coming up. Stay with us here on
night Side.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
It's night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
All right, welcome back. I am delighted to go from
Wayne Sores talking about those who serve in the military
to Captain Jessica Burkhout. Have I pronounced that name correctly?
I hope I have. Captain.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I am well, Dan, thank you and yes, you did
pronounce it right. Thank you very much for having me
this evening.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
You're very welcome. Why you guys in the Salvation Army
do so much good and you're with the Salvation Army
of New Report and this weekend you have a walkathon.
It's also a family fair. It sounds like it's going
to be a great day. Hopefully the Weather's going to
hold Saturday, May seventeenth. It's laps for lunches. Tell us
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about it. I know what it's about, but I'm sure
you're gonna be able to explain it better than I can.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Oh. Yeah, it is going to be quite the exciting event.
It isn't our It is our inaugural event, and it
is to raise funds for our food security programs to
address food insecurity. Weekend is going to be filled with
uh well that Saturday will be filled with food trucks, games,
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bounce houses, a DJ, We'll have music, We'll have some
uh booths out there for community knowledge, and then of
course our walk where we have teams and individuals that
will be walking the track for each lap, raising funds
for our social service programs, specifically in food security.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Okay, now, you guys serve more than new Report. You
serve Amesbury Byfield, Newbury, New Report, Rowley, Salisbury and West Newsbury,
Newbury all up there sort of and I would consider
like the Cape Ann area.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Would that be the Well No, No, that that's fight.
Those are all the locations we call it up here,
the greater Newberry Poor area.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
That's fine, Report beautiful. Anyone who's never been to Newburyport.
It's a great it's a beautiful city, a beautiful coastal
New England city. This will be already tended to at
the Bradley Fuller Park, forty Low Street in Newburyport. We'll
get to all of that in a moment. But you
got from ten o'clock, you got the walk and the
family fair begins. You got a kickoff party, You've got
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food trucks at eleven, you got a DJ.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yeah, it's going to be a great day, a great
day for family and friends in the community, just to
come together and celebrate community while also fundraising for an
amazing cause to support our families and households that we
love so dearly. Here.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Now, how much of a problem is this something that
will be for kids benefit kids in school during the
day or is this for families you know, at home
at night to provide them with dinners and all of that.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
So Dan, it's both The Salvation Army Social service and
food and security programs provides multiple areas of food security
here at the Newberry Court Salvation Army. We provide food
security in several areas. One we have a community meal
program where we provide our neighbors and guests with lunch, dinner,
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and breakfast during the week where individuals can come and
either sit down in our cafe and enjoy the hot
meal there, or several families like to come and pick
up and then enjoy that meal at home in the
evening time with their children and their families. Then we
also have an emergency food pantry where households can come
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and shop the food pantry for the items that they
need in our households. And then we also have things
like gift cards and school vacation Week School vacation Week.
I have four kids under the age of twelve, and
when school vacation comes, they eat me out of the
house and I swear my food budgets doubles when they
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are home for April vacation or Christmas vacation. So we
have a program where we pack extra available food items
and meals for the week so that families who do
have their children home for vacation will be able to
have snacks and different food items to just kind of
help them along the week so that they can ensure
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that they have all the items that they need for food.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Now, is this the type of program that the Salvation
Army is doing in various cities around the Commonwealth. Or
is this something that you're doing a new report and
is a real emphasis and push that you folks have
decided to take on.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
So I think both. I think that there are several
locations and many over the over Massachusetts that have very
similar programs to us, like the feeding programs and our
food pantries, and even different seasonal opportunities for items for
food and meal programs. As far as the holiday breaks,
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that has been something that we've created here because there's
been a great need and we noticed that need about
three years ago. And I related to it very much
as well when I saw that when my children were
home from school they're now all fully school aged kiddos,
that it is tough on the budget when your meals
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double and sometimes triple breakfast, lunch, and dinner and all
their snacks and so it can get expensive.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
So this is Saturday, this coming Saturday, May seventeenth, give
us the easiest website. Obviously, people in the new report
area are going to know how to get in contact
with but if anyone can't participate, they want to make
a donation, They want to get information as to how
they can participate. What's the best way to get in
contact with you?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yes, the best way to get in contact would go
would be for them to go to Salvation ARMYMA dot
org backslash new very poor that will have all the
information where they can learn more and they can even
register to walk or participate in the event.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Salvation Army m a LA or backslash news report. Perfect.
That's perfect, made it easy. Thanks so much. I really
appreciate it, Captain Jessica Burkout.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Thank you, Dan, welcome, talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Thanks very mentioning best of on Saturday. The weather holds
our pleasure.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Yes, that's what we're waiting for. Thank you so much, Dan,
have a great evening, you too.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Good night. All right, we get back to talk about
the tariffs. The ninety day pause in the tariff war,
not a ceasefire. Maybe it is a ceasefires, but will
it's a point where I want to talk and we
will in the next segment with our friend Professor Greg Staller.
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He is a China expert, having bend to China about
fifty times in his academic career taking students over there,
and he's a professor Business professor at the Questroom Business
School at Boston University. So we'll talk with Professor Staller
right after the news at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Delighted to be joined by good friend, Professor Greg Staller
of Boston University, the Questroom Business School. Greg, I know
that in the next couple of weeks we will do
another hour where we get people to ask you questions
about this, because I don't care. Most people, me included,
(19:40):
are trying to figure out what the heck's going on now.
We had Liberation Day on April second, when Donald Trump
announced the Golden Age of America had begun. The stock
market tanked, and slowly but surely it seems to have
come back. And this week it was announced in Europe
(20:03):
that the war the trade war, there's a ceasefire for
ninety days. Can you explain in layman's terms what's going
on here?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Absolutely, and by the way, thank you again for the
opportunity to return. I would call this a targeted tariff reduction.
I wouldn't call this a trade deal. I would and
again I think we need to differentiate amongst the UK deal,
what's going on in China and the other countries around
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the globe. I think bespoke is probably the best term
to use in terms of this being customized. I think
this is all a move in the right direction, but
I wouldn't call it a victory for any one country,
including the United States.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, okay, let's talk. Let's talk about the deal with
the United Kingdom, which generated a lot of interest about
a week ago. What's the bottom line. I'm sort of
one of those guys that I want to know what
the score is. Are the Red Sox winning or losing
in by how much?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I feel the same way. I think that if you
look at it in terms of the details, you know,
from the inside out, it accomplishes three things. It reduces
tariffs so specific goods. It maintains a tariff on most goods,
and by the way, the specific goods it reduces it
on are British cars, some steel, some aluminum, et cetera.
(21:29):
And it's also looking to protect jobs in key sectors
like car manufacturing and steel, et cetera. Again, I don't
want to insult your listeners by repeating myself, but these
are all steps in the right direction. But to your
point about you know, getting down the brass tats. It
is a three month test, and the jury still out
(21:51):
as to whether this is going to become permanent or not.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Including the British the British US deal which they announced
with such fans here also is a tentative. It's in
place for ninety days, and it could be it could
be blown up ninety days from now by either side.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Is that the circus, that's correct?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I mean, this is my take on and I've said
on your show so many times over the years that
I'm not a political scientist, I'm not an economist, but
just from a regular business person's perspective, I think that
President Trump didn't have much of a choice. It was
only until today that some of the stock industries have
gotten back into the black. For twenty twenty five, the
(22:35):
bond market's been going crazy, His approval rating has been tanking.
I think this is his effort to try and stabilize everything.
You know, we know from the Federal Reserve today that
inflation has sort of been tamped down, but it's still
very much a work in progress. I think his constituents,
as well as people who made donations to help him
(22:57):
get elected, were raising their hands saying, what the heck's
going on here? So I think that whether it's the UK,
I think, whether it's China, I think it's whether it's Japan,
and the South Koreans can calling to the White House.
These are all ways to sort of placate his constituents
as well, many of whom were business executives, and say
let's try and do a pause and let's see if
(23:19):
we can ameliorate things over the next ninety days.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
But when he when somehow, some way we reached out
to China, I believe that was the sequence. If China
had wanted to, they could have said, hey, we're not
even going to talk to you, never mind negotiate with you.
So the fact that China came to the table and
they've had this conversation. According to President Trump, we were
(23:48):
big time in the whole in terms of money that
we were spending on tariffs and we were not getting
it coming in. I mean, when this is finally done
and finally settled, there will be an accounting.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
There will be an accounting. And I think it's important
for all of us, you, myself, your listeners, et cetera,
to not conclude that this is a permanent trade deal,
and I say permanent, there are still ten percent tariffs
that are out there, and with respect to China, and
if you look at what's going on FEDNOL, you know,
(24:24):
all of that has not been eliminated. But I think
this is the epitome, at least visa via Chinese of
the term saving face is. Let me just sets the thought.
The shin Hua News agency, which is all in Chinese,
coming up, they have, you know, given a very typical
Chinese response. The road ahead still requires both sides to
(24:45):
explore and shape it together with wisdom and courage, but
we consider it to be a great victory.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I think we could say the same thing in reverse
from the White House dot gov website.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
But when you're talking about China, we're talking about you know,
we're talking about access to some rare earth minerals that
we need. You're talking about computer chips. Uh, you're talking
about intellectual theft, because that's a big problem our many
of our companies have lost billions of dollars to what's
(25:19):
called intellectual theft. So I mean there's there's more to
it just than how much we're going to charge you
and you're going to charge us.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
One hundred percent agree.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
And you, my audience needs to understand that. And again
I'm not bragging on you here, but but but you
you're you. You are linguistically capable in seven languages, and
you read and speak Chinese. You've done you had fifty
trips at least to China since nineteen ninety four, so
you know the interior of that country. So you know sociologically,
(25:55):
maybe not politically, but sociologically. Uh. And so you can
read the statements that come out of Beijing and put
your own interpretation on what they're saying and what they
are trying to say and what and in addition, what
they're implying, because that's the average person is not going
to be able to look at the printed language or
(26:17):
listen to the verbiage and have that ability to to
understand that on all of those different levels. That's why
you're so important to my audience. And I mean that
all in all honesty. So now let me just finish
up here. With a couple of minutes that we have left,
it's going to get quiet. The turbulence of April has
(26:40):
has settled down. Okay, how long do you think I'm
not asking for a stock market prediction. But how long
do you think the turbulence will stay relatively calm, because
it's got to pick up again as we get close
to the ninety days. I assume it's not.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Right. I think the most interesting data point that I've
been reading about for the past couple of days is
people are pressing send on their order books as fast
as humanly possible. The stock of several transportation companies, whether
they be on oceans or whether they be trucking companies,
(27:21):
their stocks are up. Everybody's putting the orders in now
and probably stocking up on inventory they're hoping to fill
because nobody knows what's going to happen ninety days. Hence,
and so I know, sort of a nod answer to
the question, no, no, no, no matter is the stock
market is booming for the moment, and the orders are
(27:43):
whizzing across the internet for the bulvit because people figure
one in the hand is better than two in the bush.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Right. But but there's nothing that the market dislikes more.
The market wants some form of certainty. And as we
get closer to this ninety day and period, and at
the end of this ninety day period uncertain he's gonna
bubble up again unless it's just smooth sailing. But I
(28:10):
can't imagine it's gonna be smooth.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I'm not so sure how i'd agree with that, Dan,
because look what happened was then the ninety day deadline
came and went, and they just kicked the can down
the road and extended it. The same thing with TikTok
is we were all set for a firm decision with
all of the you know, with all of the nineties
and the fourteen piece orchestra performing. That wasn't needed. It
(28:37):
was just kicked down the road. But for the moment,
you know, my contacts are saying, we'll take it to
your point a few minutes ago, stability growth no a
lot during twenty twenty five, we'll take you.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
But TikTok still has to get resolved.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
And that's what I'm agreeing with you.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
That's part of the whole conversation. Yeah, okay, so we're just.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
We're kicking the can down the road.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
And you know, again, it looks at whether you're a
glass half full or glass half empty curved first, right,
the half full part of me says, well, forward progress
is better than nothing. The balls will be down the field.
The half empty part of me says, yeah, but nothing's
really been memorialized here yet. It's still, to your point,
a work in progress.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Well, I appreciate you being available tonight and giving us
this UH, this update. We'll do something in a couple
of weeks from now, when when the horizon gets a
little closer and the UH and our vision becomes a
little clearer. Greg Stahler of the Question School of Business
at Boston University is always you're the best. Thanks Thanks, professor,
(29:42):
appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
My pleasure. Thanks again, Dan, talk to you.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Okay. When we get back, we're going to talk about
the Martin Richard Fieldhouse, a magnificent structure that will be
built in Dorchester and will benefit generations of young people
in the memory of one of the four people who
lost their lives on the day of the twenty thirteen
(30:06):
Boston Marathon, eight year old Martin Richard. Will be back
and talk about this field house and what a tremendous
legacy from Martin Richard. This will be right after the break.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
All right, welcome back.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
I think all of us remember the horrific events of
the Boston Marathon twelve years ago April of twenty thirteen,
that took the lives of four people and eventually an
Mit police officer and a Boston Police officer.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
The youngest of the victims, eight year old Martin Richard
of Dorchester, became sort of a symbol of innocence in childhood,
snatched by the heinous actions of the people who put
those pressure cooker bombs on people watching the marathon as
they stood on Boylston Street. However, out of something as
(31:06):
horrific as that now rising as the Martin Richard field House,
a lot of people have been involved in that with
us is Kevin Diebler, Kevin Hope, I pronounced your name correctly.
You're dead and you're an architect with a company called
Road Architects. So you, folks, des I understand, are involved
in the construction of this, this wonderful field house, which
(31:29):
is going to be a gathering spot for generations of kids.
You must be thrilled to be involved with something as
as significant as this this field house.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
Yes, and I am really excited to be here tonight. Dan,
thanks for letting me talk about this project and you know,
I'm Kevin Kevin Devar and more of the co founders
of Roady Architects, and we are a firm that kind
of got start in Dorchester about twenty years ago. So
(32:05):
raising our families in Dorchester. My business partner Eric Robinson
and I, you know, we're we're community members and I
would say everyone in Dorchester was very much affected by
that tragedy and it isn't sort of on our minds
that we would play a role in trying to sort
(32:25):
of lift up the community with this this project. And
we're you know, our our families, you know, can know
the Richards. We play sports, we do activities and arts
with them, and it was a moment where people did
focus on the good things that happened in Dorchester. And
I think that the Richard family really kind of we're
(32:50):
sort of that representation of people who care for their community.
So because of the you know circumstances and the you know,
uh having their their family impacted by that, we were
all very much taken by that kind of community that
that surrounded them with love and support, and it is
(33:12):
just kind of like an amazing thing to be a
part of, you know, looking back at it.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
So let's talk a little bit about the building, the architect.
I know that the there was a ceremony earlier this
month if I'm not or late last month. Yes, the
basically it was the groundbreaking how how many people will
this fieldhouse accommodate? Give us a sense of how big
(33:39):
it is, what it will involve. You're the architect, you
probably know it better than anyone.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
Well, that's true, and others on our team, Lucas and
Aana definitely know the building even better than I do
because they work on it day, day by day. But
it took us nine years to to pull this off.
It was finding land near a Boston public school, The
Ruth bats And Academy right next door has a thousand
kids that we'll be able to use this on a
(34:07):
daily basis, So that that in and of itself is
pretty amazing that there's going to be this facility for that.
But within a three mile radius, as we were kind
of studying how this project could impact, there's about fifty
thousand kids, and that means that there are you know,
many thousands of families in there that need the kind
of support that the field House will provide. And that
(34:30):
also comes with making sure that we want to mention
the Boys and Girls Clubs of Dorchester playing, you know,
a huge role in this. They will be the sort
of group that can program the facility and sort of
operate it under the way that Boys and Girls Clubs
do their work and their sort of presence in the
Dorchester community has always been kind of comforting to families,
(34:51):
working families, and you know, I think that the real
sort of challenge here is to make sure that we
can do as much as possible under this one roof.
So it has sports facilities, it's got wellness arts, it
has spaces for people that have some counseling, and just
(35:11):
really a big focus on inclusion and people living with disabilities.
So there's there's so many good things to talk about
and mostly what we're about to build.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Will will this technically be the boy the Dorchester Boys
and Girls Club or will it simply be a great
facility run by the What's what's the official status? Is
what I just want to it's a.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
Bit sure, well, you know, we're actually calling at the
Fieldhouse plus and it it really is going to be
part of the Boys and Girls Clubs of Dorchester's campus.
And there's a building right across the street that is
sort of the Walter Denny Center, and that really has
been serving the Harbor Point and uh, you know neighborhood
(35:56):
for for many years. And then the clubs all have
two facilities, the mar and the McLoughlin Center that's over
in the more proper neighborhood of Dorchester. But this new
area will be like a new campus that will serve
the entire you know, Columbia Point peninsula out there and
be part of all those institutions that are out there.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
And so I'm sure you'll have basketball courts, swimming pool
or is it.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Ye as two hard courts and that sort of the
The focus started really at the top though. It was
a turf facility, and we were looking for places in
Dorchester to find the room that could house a turf facility.
It was one of these things as parents in Dorchester
spent a lot of time on rainy ball fields and
(36:49):
there really aren't places to practice in the in the
off season like other kids in suburbs have, and you know,
you travel around and see these amazing facil So it
really started with like trying to get this type of
indoor turf facility off the ground, and then as we
found the land right next to this school, we realized
(37:11):
that the open space on that land is also very important,
so we started to make the building a little bit taller.
We've found out we could really almost make it work
with three courts, but we ended up with two full
sized basketball courts, second floor track that can walk around,
so everybody can sort of watch their kids while they
walk and get some exercise. But then it has a
(37:32):
whole nother wing to it, which includes a theater, teaching kitchen,
music clubhouse, and other offices and spaces that can support
and provide wrap around services.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
It's like just a fabulous facility in the memory of
a very special little boy. Martin Richard Kevin appreciate the explanation.
I really now have a sense of it, and I've
talked to people about it, but you really have sort
of focused it for me and hopefully for others, and
now it'll be great when it is finally up and running. Finally,
last quick question, what is the hope. I know that
(38:06):
they're doing very well in terms of raising the funds necessary,
but do they have a open the doordate yet? Approximately?
Speaker 6 (38:14):
Yes, I think we hope to be complete in about
eighteen months. That should be at the end of twenty
twenty six, opening doors, cutting the ribbon. At that point,
fundraising is continuing to happen. They're at about fifty five
million for a seventy million dollars you know building, and
this is seventy five thousand square feet state of the
(38:36):
art facility, so the opportunity to give is definitely still there.
So they have a little bit left to raise, but
we're definitely seeing the finish line come up. And very
very excited to talk to you tonight, Dan, So thanks
for giving us.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Your record to talk with you. Kevin Diebler, co founder
and principal of Road Rode Architects, Kevin posted and we'll
talk again. Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
Thank you, Dan.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Take care yep, all right, we come back.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
We're going to talk with Boston City councilor Ed Flynn
about what is going on in the Boston City Council
and maybe it is time for an ethics standard at
Boston City Hall, including for the Boston City Council. We'll
get to all of that right after the news break
at nine o'clock.
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