May 14, 2025 • 37 mins
We kicked off the program with four news stories and different guests on the stories we think you need to know about!
Lesley Alderman, LCSW, psychotherapist based in Brooklyn – WaPo “Ask A Therapist” Columnist shares how to gently stop someone who talks way too much!
Chris Carosa - Certified Trust & Fiduciary Advisor, Senior Contributor to Forbes and author of The Parent's Guide To Turning Your Teen Into A Millionaire discussed A GOP tax bill: Trump Wants To Give Babies A Thousand Bucks!
Atsushi Endo, MD, Orthopedic Surgeon at Tufts Medical Center discussed Celtic Jason Tatum and his torn Achilles – how this happens, how it’s treated and what’s the recovery period?
David Hamilton – author of The Enigmatic Aviator: Charles Lindbergh Revisited finds earlier parallels with current events and looks at the ever-changing verdict on Lindbergh.
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Lesley Alderman, LCSW, psychotherapist based in Brooklyn – WaPo “Ask A Therapist” Columnist shares how to gently stop someone who talks way too much!
Chris Carosa - Certified Trust & Fiduciary Advisor, Senior Contributor to Forbes and author of The Parent's Guide To Turning Your Teen Into A Millionaire discussed A GOP tax bill: Trump Wants To Give Babies A Thousand Bucks!
Atsushi Endo, MD, Orthopedic Surgeon at Tufts Medical Center discussed Celtic Jason Tatum and his torn Achilles – how this happens, how it’s treated and what’s the recovery period?
David Hamilton – author of The Enigmatic Aviator: Charles Lindbergh Revisited finds earlier parallels with current events and looks at the ever-changing verdict on Lindbergh.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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We're be here for the next four hours, give or take,
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the new US Attorney. We'll get to all of that tonight,
but that will be during the nine to ten and
eleven o'clock hours, and so for now we're going to
start off with our first guest of the night. Her
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name is Leslie Alderman. Leslie, you could run for an
office in a lot of communities in that country with
this in our country, with the last name Alderman and
Leslie for Alderman, it would work out perfectly. I'm sure
that is not on your radar screen or on your
bucket list. Welcome to Nightside. How are you?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Thank you? Yes, I know. I feel like my name
makes me sound very official, but I'm really just a psychotherapist.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Oh don't say just a psychotherapist. That is a very
licensed clinic psychotherapist, I believe social worker.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
And you're based in Brooklyn, New York, and you also
write for the Washington Post. Ask a therapist. So the
question that you're going to answer for us tonight is
what do you do when in over talker that's a
very polite word, or for someone who won't shut up?
What do you over talk or dominates every conversation, and
I am not going to dominate this conversation. Did you
(02:27):
Did you ever see the movie, or rather the series,
Dairy Girls, By any chance I did not. There was one.
There was one. Uh. It's a comedy series about young
women coming of age in Northern Ireland. Uh. And it's
a hysterical series. Uh. They have a they have an
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uncle who just talks and he doesn't stop, and he
comes in and out of the conversations and whatever is
being discussed. He will kind of pick up on a
thread and take the conversation off in anutther direction. So
I assume that's what we're talking about. As an over talker,
you probably will have a better explanation for my audience.
(03:11):
So you go right ahead. I well, zip my lip,
go ahead.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
You know, over talkers can be quite charming and lots
of fun, you know, when they have lots of great
stories and they tell lots of yarns and they kind
of can be the life of the party. Sometimes it
can just be a little too much. And my piece
was about what do you do when that person who
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just likes to hold forth when it's starting to kind
of feel like it's infringing let's say, your personal freedom
to get a word in edge wise, what do you
do then? And so that's when the over talking becomes
kind of problematic. And you know, look, people people like
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to talk about them It's what we know best, right,
It's where we often feel on firm ground. And our
minds are designed to be egocentric, like our minds are
designed to think about ourselves. So it's quite normal for
people to often talk more about themselves and perhaps forget
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to ask questions.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Also, there's a certain amount of social anxiety that often
creates chatterboxes where you get into a situation and you
feel a little nervous, so you don't want to have
any pauses and you just keep talking and talking and talking.
So there's there's many reasons why people can get a
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reputation for being, well, well, we'll say it nicely as
an overtalker.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Okay. So the question then is we're somewhere in a
social setting, whether it's a barbecue this summer, whether it's
at a Thanksgiving dinner in late November, and we have
what we will call an Uncle Komb That was the
name of the character in Dairy Girls. Coomb. It's a
hysterical series, by the way, butte I recommended all my friends.
(05:17):
So what do we do with an uncle Komb who
just takes the conversation and starts to run away with
the conversation but never leaving the circle of people who
he thinks he's entertaining.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Yeah, okay, so well, first, let's be empathetic, like this
person might we don't know, Let's give them the benefit
of the doubt. They might think that they are really entertaining.
They might think they're doing everyone a great service by
you know, filling the airwaves. Or they might also just
be completely clueless that they're having an impact on anyone else.
(05:51):
So let's start with you know, I'm a therapist. I
like to be empathic, give people the benefit of the doubt.
Then it kind of depends on your relationship ship with
the person. If this is someone you have a good
relationship with, you feel close to, so you could say, hey,
you know, it's great how you love to tell stories,
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but I think maybe you're dominating the conversation, or or
even if you're you know, you could say, hey, you know,
it's really you could use a little bit of humor
and say gosh, you have a lot to say about that,
and then gently uh change the subject. You know, if
this is someone that's really like a close uncle, you
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could like say, hey, come on over here, I got
to talk to you about something, and just say hey,
you know, I think that it would be great if
you asked a few more questions like this. You know
that that you're you're telling a lot of great stories,
but people love it when you ask questions. So I
think some of this when you're dealing with someone who
talks a lot, it really depends a lot on your
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relationship with them because it's very delicate, like no one
really wants to be scolded. You need to know when
can you use levity and when do you need to
use another tactic.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Well, I think that's very good advice because I think
that that's something that you have to think about. What
is the relationship with the person who you are about
to true upon as they hold court. My wife is
very good. She she always tells me listen, listen, listen,
and ask questions of other people. So that's the advice
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that I have been given. And when I don't pay
attention to that advice, she will interrupt with greater poem
by the way, but certainly she's she makes me sensitive
to this. Uh and uh, I think it's something all
of us should think about. Uh. And I think you've
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provided some really interesting and solid advice to take into consideration.
Who you're about to interrupt, Leslie? How how often are
you in the Post and the WAPO, as we say,
you in there every week or so?
Speaker 6 (08:06):
No, it's sort of it.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
This is for the Ask a Therapist column, but sometimes
I write for other sections. I primarily write about mental health.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
All right, Well, if folks want to get in touch
with you, is it possible if people have a question
that they could they could direct towards you?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Well, yes, they can certainly write into the Washington Post
and say, you know, to the Ask a Therapist you
call them and say, hey, I've got a question for
a therapist, or they can reach out to me on
my website at Leslie Alderman dot com.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Sounds great, Leslie, Thank you so much, and again, keep
thinking about running for political office, because with a name
like Aldermen, Aldermen for Aldermen, no one would forget your candidacy.
I think you would sweep to victory wherever you run
as long the obviously the post you're seeking is an
Alderman post. If it's a city council, it's not going
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to work.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Great advice that my retirement plan.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Okay, Leslie, appreciate your time. Thank you so much. Love
to have you back. Thank you very much. Okay, all right,
we get back. We're going to talk about the Republican
tax bill, which includes an couple, well a lot of
interesting provisions. We're going to focus on one. By the way,
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be right back with more conversation with another guest right
after this.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Happen to be joined by Chris Carosa. He's a certif
I trust In fiduciary advisor, senior contributed to Forbes, and
author of the Parent's Guide to Turning Your Team into
a Millionaire. Oh wouldn't that be wonderful? How are you,
Chris Caroso?
Speaker 5 (10:33):
I'm doing great. How are you?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I'm doing wonderful. Sally, give some sort of internet airplane
or something. I'm getting a lot of air noise in
the background here.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
I'm actually in a car.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Okay, well that's just that'll do it too. But that's okay,
keep those windows rolled up if you don't mind. So
the President refers to this on big beautiful bill tax bill.
But we're going to focus on one aspect of it,
and that is the President wants mega accounts and wants
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to give babies one thousand dollars. Obviously, give the parents
of those babies one thousand dollars to be put in
the equivalent of some sort of a savings account to
get someone started on the treadmill of life. Tell us
about it. How's this plan going to work, Chris?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
I think it's described somewhat like a four oh one
K for kids, where you put the money in, they'll
put the thousand dollars in there. That's yeah, that's so so.
But the more exciting thing, assuming it passes, is the
ability for the parents to contribute up to five thousand
dollars a year until the child turns eight. When you
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get that kind of money compounded over a long time,
it can really accumulate some big assets and solve a
lot of problems that I think we're having overall, in
particular with Social Security. With that kind of donations and
at an eight percent return until the child is age seventy,
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that contribution, those contributions are seven point four million dollars.
That's a good amount of money to retire on.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah. So what you yeah, certainly would be okay. So
what you're saying is the federal government when a child
is born, or would this be retroactive for children up
to a certain age or or once does this have
to pass Congress, be signed by the White House, and
anyone born after that date would qualify. I assume that's
the way it is.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
I think the version that I saw, it's over the
next three years, say baby's born, over the next three years,
we'll get this thousand dollars from the government. Okay, I
don't know if that five thousand dollarmentation is also only
limited to those kids, but if it's better, If it's not.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
It's okay, you threw me on that one. What do
you mean it's better if it's not. What do you
mean by that?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
It's better if it's not limited, just as those kids?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Oh, right, right, right, right right, So yeah, hopefully this
should go forward. So the account is opened by money
from the federal government for thousand dollars, and then the
parents keen, if they so choose, contribute up to five
thousand dollars for the first seven years of the child's life.
So that would mean when they turn what seven, they're
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going to have thirty six thousand dollars plus whatever interest
was was developed, and at that point the contributions from
the parents would cease. But just the compounding is going
to turn that money by time that theoretical child turns
seventy at an eight percent compounded rate, to seven point
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four million dollars. And this is separate and apart from
the proposal that the President has floated, which moms and
dads would be given five thousand dollars separate, apart for
every child to help with the costs of the first
few years or a child's life. Correct.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yeah, this is totally different. Dad was to the parents.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
This is to the kids.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Okay, fine, And this also would be good I assume
for your industry, the estate planning industry, the certified trust
in saery industry as well, because a lot of parents
would look at this money and say what do I
do with this? And they're going to need to seek
some help.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
I assume, Oh, yeah, definitely it would be good for
the industry. But I think it would be also good
for public policy, because if you have less pressure on
social Security, then you're more likely to fulfill the promise.
The government is more likely to fulfill the promises that
it made to the people.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah. The problem with that, as I'm sure you are
more than aware, is that the Social Security Trust Fund
periodically they tell us it's going to run out in
twenty thirty four. Now what happens is that they raised
taxes or they're able to do something, But it would
be quite a time before the fruit of the seeds
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that are being planted with this so called mega account.
Before those seeds bear fruit, it would be somewhere around
seventy years down the line, So we're talking about pretty
darn close to the turning of the next century before
kids who are being born now actually reach retirement age
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in the age of which they can take advantage of
this program. It's but as someone once said, when is
the best day to plant a tree? Yesterday? Get it started.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
You've got to start somewhere, and you might as well
start at the easiest point and then work backward if
you need to.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Absolutely, Chris, how can first of all thank you for
doing this. How can any of our listeners get in
touch with you? I'm sure you have a website that
you could direct people to.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
I have a website called childira dot com. Just go
there and there's some nice articles you can read and
maybe even a place you can sign up to get
more information.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, I'll tell you any parent who can put some
money away childira dot com. It's so important because if
you bring someone into the world, whatever your financial circumstances are,
whatever you can do to sort of plan for that
child's future, whether it involves college education, vocational education, and
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then a little bit of a grubstake for them to
get started. It's so important, it is. It's just amazing.
Very few people are born with that proverbial silver spoon
in their mouth, and so for everyone else who's not
born with a silver spoon in their mouth, or as
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Anne richard Is, the former governor of Texas, once said,
some people get born on third base and they think
they've hit a triple. These are great ideas, and I
thank you chrispher explaining him as clearly as as you
did tonight for my audience. And I hope to have
you back all right.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
You're welcome. And how's that car ride going? Where are
you driving? By the way, I'm just kind of curious.
Where abouts are you? What state?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I'm driving from Buffalo to Rochester. I'm in the middle
of a book tour on Lafayec. It's another book that
I wrote.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I'll tell you our station. When you hang up, go
to ten thirty and your am Dowd. You'll be able
to hear us. We boom up into all right, I
will up into northern New York out of New England
are fifty thousand WAT longtime radio station, so you will
be able to hear the next guest. We're going to
talk about Jason Tatum's achilles injury and which he suffered
(18:07):
Monday night playing against the Knicks. Thank you again, Chris appreciated.
Thanks then, all right, and by the way, any of
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We will be back. We're going to talk with an
orthopedic surgeon from Tough's Medical Center, doctor Atsushi Endo, about
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Jason Tatum and his torn achilles, how it happens, how
it's treated, and what's the recovery period. It's a tough
recovery period. Back nightside right after the news at the
bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
So you're on night Side with Dan Ray on w
Boston's News radio.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Well, all of us have seen that horrific accent. Well, accident,
it was an accident that Jason Tatum suffered on Monday
night at Madison Square Garden Garden when he tore his achilles.
So all sorts of questions is how does it happen,
how's this treated? And what's the recovery period? With us
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is doctor at Sushi Endo? Uh, he's an orthopedic surgeon
and Tuff's Medical Center. Doctor Endo, welcome to Nightside.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Thank you for joining us, Oh, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So I think most of us understand that there's a
lot of torque put on professional basketball players legs as
they're as they're stopping and starting and going in directions,
in different directions. I assume that's what what caused him
to go down with this injury. We've all seen it.
(20:01):
Break it down for us if you would, we can
visualize it when you were watching or if you were
if you watch the replay, how long did it take
you to figure out that it was going to be
an achilles problem that he'd have to deal with?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Oh, so just by looking at the videos, sometimes it's difficult,
you know, but usually the athletes, our patients tell you
that where the pain is, and also they kind of
describe how it happened. Then we can kind of tell
what's going on, but just by looking at the video
it's sometimes difficult, like what's going on?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Well, he was writhing in pain, and when I looked
at it, I thought to myself, and I'm not a doctor,
this is a serious injury. So it has now been
diagnosed as an achilles. It is something that you would
think that a twenty seven year old professional basketball player
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would have done all this stretching exercises. It was late
in the game and all of that. What do they
do to how do you treat this? I mean, this
is a huge surgical procedure that he now has undergone.
Let's talk about the the procedure yourself. Is it a
difficult surgery to to to actually complete? I assume as
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an orthopedic surgeon, you're much more familiar with this procedure
than anyone in my audience.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Sure, so, yes, you know the I kind of tendon,
the rupture. It can be treated surgically or non surgically.
But in terms of surgery, the surgery itself is relatively straightforward,
meaning that basically the tendons are torn, so we repair
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often with the futures, so we open up the skin
tend on his torn so we just repair, like you know,
just so up and put it together. That's how the
surgery goes. Usually takes like probably less than one hour.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
People who I know who have had achilles say that
they had the sensation of an elastic snapping and the
achilles sort of rolls up like an elastic up their legs.
Is that a common thing that you've heard from patients.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yes, that's true.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
And the actual people often say that that they hear
a snapping sound or feeling of snapping, and often they
say that, you know, they feel like somebody was hitting
from the behind of the calf, but actually nobody was there.
That's how they often describe it.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Is Is it because of the the amount of torque
or the amount of pressure that is being put put
on this it's it's it? Is it a tendon or
a ligament or is it a bit of both? Uh?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
That's uh. Acquits tendon so not the ligaments and tendons.
Is the largest tendon in the body, and that connects
the calf muscle and the hue bone.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah. And when the surgery is done as quickly. Again,
Tatum had this surgery done. I found out tonight in
New York. He didn't originally said he was going to
come back to Boston and have an MRI I done.
The surgery was done immediately in New York by apparently
very competent surgeon. What's the uh, the prognosis for a recovery?
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And again I know that he's not your patient, so
you haven't seen the charts, but generally when someone has
a an achilles tendon injury like this, uh, this is
not a quick recovery as I understand it, certainly not
a quick recovery for a guy to get back on
a basketball court.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
You're truly right, So you know, I see more like
you know the general population in my practice, and the
recovery time is quite long, and the usually retweet with
the specialized boot after surgery, and then you have to
you have to wear that specialized boots for at least
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I would say two to three months. Then you start
doing some rehab afterwards. So at the earliest, even in
a recreational level, it takes at least I would say
four to six months, but at the professional level it
could be longer or depending on how they do. Yeah,
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that's a typical recovery time.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Okay, so here's a dumb question, but I get paid
no put the ask of the dumb questions. Are you
in that boot day and night twenty four to seven
for a period of time or can you at least
take the boot off to take a shower or to
sleep in a bed without the boot? Tell us about that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
So in general, even so surgery versus no surgery, that
treatment is similar. And this in my practice, I almost
always use specialized boot and the initially, at least the
first like six weeks or so, I recommend wearing the
boot almost twenty four to seven and the only just
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to take it off only if really necessary. If that's
the case, I recommend patients to keep the foot in
a plant of flexed position, meaning that the foot is
flexing down downward.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Oh okay, yeah, so this is a Is this a
an injury? And I hate to even ask this question,
but is this an injury that is more common amongst
young people. I've had friends of mine. I'm not going
to mention some of the people who you would know
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who have done this. Uh? Or is this something that
is more common with people as they get older and
their tendons become you know, more I guess tenuous would
be yeah, sure, sure, yeah, that's fair. What what is
what's what's the likelihood? Because everybody looks at that and
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they say, well, that can't be me because I'm not
a professional basketball players. It's a it's a it's a
an incident accident that that occurs, not just a professional
basketball players.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Pretty right, So of course, and I see more I
you know, uh general population that it's was the very
common injuries and the uh it's a more common with
a sudden motion involving activities such as basketball or maybe football, soccer,
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and the age wise more common for middle age like
thirties or forties, so they are actively enough, but not
like the tissues are not that young and healthy.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, so okay, So what you're suggesting is that for
the average person who is living life and has put
the basketballs and the soccer balls and the footballs away
and they're not out trying to relive the glories of
their youth, they're less likely to suffer this if they're
not out you know, on the field, so playing every
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weekend on the court, is what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
So well, well, yeah, well I don't want to quit.
You know that those are the fund activities, but yeah,
just more common, definitely more common for weekend warriors.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, okay, fair enough, fair, but there are things that
you can do. Look, I really do appreciate it. I
enjoyed chatting with you. I am always amazed what those
of you who are in the orthopedic field are able
to do. You literally reconstruct people. So I just want
to say thank you for joining us tonight, doctor Endel,
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but also thank you for doing what you and your
colleagues do. I have several friends of mine in the
orthopedic surgical field, and I'm amazed at what you folks
are able to do to bring people back to their
old self. Let me put it like that. Thanks, thanks
so much.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Oh well, thank you for a kind war that. I
appreciate that, and thank you for having me here.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
Enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Thank you very much, Doctor Atsushi, Endo, orthopedic surgeon at
the Toughs Medical Center. All Right, we're going to be
back right after this quick break for a couple of
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going to be talking about tonight. So we have a
fourth guest who is amongst the miss put all said,
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we have the fourth guest. Now I'm told the fourth
guest is set, so I won't have to vamp. We'll
be back with a fourth guest right after this.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Well, I'm delighted. Welcome David Hamilton, who's the author of
a book entitled The Enigmatic Aviator. Charles Lindbergh revisited the
ninety eighth anniversary of the flight of the Spirit of
Saint Louis will be fast upon us, Doctor Hamilton. You're required.
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You're a retired kidney surgeon, so the appellation doctor Hamilton
is appropriate. You're an award winning historian in both medicine,
says Golf. I don't know if you're an award winning
historian Golf, but welcome. How are you.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
I'm okay, I'm okay. It's a bad dye, it's a
we'll do her best.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, I guess we will. I'm a little confused as
to why your company acts to be on. We could
have waited until you were back in the States, minderstanding
as you're in Scotland tonight, correct. Indeed, is that where
you live or are you over there on a visit?
Speaker 6 (30:23):
No, I live here, I live here, you live there?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Okay, well, yeah, these lines are tough. Let's try to
got through it here. So you have done a history
of Charles Lindbergh, and Lindbergh has been a considered many times.
Many people like sort of a controversial character who dominated
aviation breakthroughs in the early to mid twentieth century. Some
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suggested that he was a little bit more than an
American isolationist. He was that, but you have basically said,
maybe he's given a bad rap with some of the
reputation that have been attached to him. Tell us about that.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Yeah, well, he actually had a super reputation, good biographies.
He was a friend of the White House, invited to
everything until Philip Roth wrote the novel historical novel The
Plot Against America in two thousand and four, and unfortunately,
everybody has seemed to believe what was in the novel.
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Even the HBO had a mini series on it as
if it was a documentary. So the idea that he
was a Nazi anti Samite is quite recent and I'm
doing my best to untangle that untangle that don.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
What called you were summons? You did this cause Lindbergh
died in nineteen seventy four, so he's been gone now
for just I guess fifty one years. He was someone
whose child was kidnapped. His family after he became famous,
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was the victim of I guess at that point, the
world's most well known kidnapping. What prompted what prompted you
to in effect try to revive his reputation?
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Funnily enough, Dan, in my field, I was a transplant
surgeon in Scotland, and they transplant surgeons we all knew
about lindberghen and revered them because he had invented He
invented a device to keep organs alive. So that's why
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I got into it, from here in Scotland and from medicine.
And I started studying his huge archive at Yale, and
I found a lot more interesting stuff on his scientific contributions.
And then I realized he'd been given a hard time recently,
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and I wanted to unscramble it. The the reason that
Ruth could bad mouth them in the in the novel
was that Lindbergh took on President Roosevelt at the beginning
of the Second World War, Roosevelt wanted to.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Get in and.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Lindbergh led the movement to.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Keep out of the of the European War at least
not send any any troops. Of course, that all that
all finished with Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
The debate was over.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Although America was split down the middle, Pearl Harbor just finished.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
The whole thing was was Lindbergh ethnically German American?
Speaker 6 (33:54):
Sorry I missed that, then?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Was was Jarles Lindbergh from an ethnic point of view?
German American?
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Nothing to do with Germany, nor certainly one than that sage.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Oh no, no, I'd said that. I'm just wondering what
his ethnic derivation when his four bears came where his
four bears came from? That contribute? Did that contribute inadvertently
to the reputation or unfairly to the reputation? Is what
I'm asking you.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
There were Swedish? Okay, Swedish grandfather.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Okay, fair enough, Okay, that's that's helpful. Did Lindbergh After
World War Two? Lindbergh sort of disappeared? I think, if
my memory is correct. What was he doing from the
time the war ended and Roosevelt's presidency ended. What did
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he do in the fifties and sixties up until his
death in seventy four. How did he live out his
life after the great heroic feats of the the first
you know, cross Atlantic flow ight and having you know,
survived the loss of a child. How did the rest
of the latter half of his life go quietly or
did he stay in the public eye.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
As you say, Dan. After Roosevelt died, then Lindberg. Everybody
welcomed Lindberg back into their lives and back into the
Air Force, into secret work. He was involved in the
sec the special air going of the atomic bombers. This
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was all of course secret stuff. So when I was
in his archive, I could see that he was involved
at the high level in the various committees, even planning
the atomic warfare right through to Polaris. But he had
to destroy all the minutes and stuff that came through,
so you only get hints what he was up to.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
But he was in there at the highest level.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
Advising the Air Force in particular. It was even it
was even considered for the for the cabinet position in
the early nineteen fifties. He was considered for that he
was so highly regarded, but it was secret, and hence
it's been very badly described. But there it was in
in his archives, so.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
He So that would have been once Eisenhower became president.
I assume if it was the early fifties, either the
end of Truman's time in office or Eisenhower.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
Eisenhower thought a lot about him, restored his rank he
had pretty well. It was taken away from him pretty
well by Roosevelt, and I gave him back. Kennedy thought
a lot of him. Reagan thought a lot of them
as well, even even afterwards.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Interesting, doctor Hamilton, I appreciate you time. I'm glad that
we finally got you. The book is the Enigmatic Aviator
Charles Lindbergh revisited. The book is now out. I assume
it's available in Amazon, and I'm sure it's going to
be a great success.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Good good, Thanks very much, Dan, You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Thanks for staying up late. I'm assuming it's already probably
closer to one o'clock, maybe even two am in Scotland
at this hour. It is off to bed now, all right,
Good night, doctor David Hamilton. Thank you for being for
finally getting in touch with US. Tonight we get back.
We're going to talk about that tragedy in Boston on
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April twenty eighth, little five year old boy gets off
a school bus and seconds later is dead. That story
has kind of gone away, and I'd like to get
it back up on everyone's radar screen. We'll be back
on Night's side right after the nine o'clock news
It's NIC's Eyes with Dan ray I'm going crazy Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thank you Madison. As we start off a Wednesday night,
We're be here for the next four hours, give or take,
take a little bit. We'll go till eleven fifty eight,
all the way almost all the way to midnight. My
name is Dan Rayam, the host of Nightside. Rob Brooks,
the producer of this program, is back at Broadcast Center
(00:27):
at Broadcast headquarters. He's all set to start taking your
phone calls. He's got a little work to do this
hour where we're rearranging some of the guests at this point,
so excuse us if things were a little out of order,
but we'll get them all in, I hope in some
form of fashion. My name's Dan Rayam, the host of
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the show. Here every Monday through Friday night, beginning from
eight to midnight. At nine o'clock time, we're gonna look
at that deadly school bus accident that took place on
April twenty eight, that's now nearly two and a half
weeks ago, and little is known about that. We'll get
to that. We're also going to talk about the attempt
(01:08):
at is arrests in Worcester, which have led to some
violent street activity out there, and also a warning from
the new US Attorney. We'll get to all of that tonight,
but that will be during the nine to ten and
eleven o'clock hours, and so for now we're going to
start off with our first guest of the night. Her
(01:30):
name is Leslie Alderman. Leslie, you could run for an
office in a lot of communities in that country with
this in our country, with the last name Alderman and
Leslie for Alderman, it would work out perfectly. I'm sure
that is not on your radar screen or on your
bucket list. Welcome to Nightside. How are you?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Thank you? Yes, I know. I feel like my name
makes me sound very official, but I'm really just a psychotherapist.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Oh don't say just a psychotherapist. That is a very
licensed clinic psychotherapist, I believe social worker.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
And you're based in Brooklyn, New York, and you also
write for the Washington Post. Ask a therapist. So the
question that you're going to answer for us tonight is
what do you do when in over talker that's a
very polite word, or for someone who won't shut up?
What do you over talk or dominates every conversation, and
I am not going to dominate this conversation. Did you
(02:27):
Did you ever see the movie, or rather the series,
Dairy Girls, By any chance I did not. There was one.
There was one. Uh. It's a comedy series about young
women coming of age in Northern Ireland. Uh. And it's
a hysterical series. Uh. They have a they have an
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uncle who just talks and he doesn't stop, and he
comes in and out of the conversations and whatever is
being discussed. He will kind of pick up on a
thread and take the conversation off in anutther direction. So
I assume that's what we're talking about. As an over talker,
you probably will have a better explanation for my audience.
(03:11):
So you go right ahead. I well, zip my lip,
go ahead.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
You know, over talkers can be quite charming and lots
of fun, you know, when they have lots of great
stories and they tell lots of yarns and they kind
of can be the life of the party. Sometimes it
can just be a little too much. And my piece
was about what do you do when that person who
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just likes to hold forth when it's starting to kind
of feel like it's infringing let's say, your personal freedom
to get a word in edge wise, what do you
do then? And so that's when the over talking becomes
kind of problematic. And you know, look, people people like
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to talk about them It's what we know best, right,
It's where we often feel on firm ground. And our
minds are designed to be egocentric, like our minds are
designed to think about ourselves. So it's quite normal for
people to often talk more about themselves and perhaps forget
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to ask questions.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Also, there's a certain amount of social anxiety that often
creates chatterboxes where you get into a situation and you
feel a little nervous, so you don't want to have
any pauses and you just keep talking and talking and talking.
So there's there's many reasons why people can get a
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reputation for being, well, well, we'll say it nicely as
an overtalker.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Okay. So the question then is we're somewhere in a
social setting, whether it's a barbecue this summer, whether it's
at a Thanksgiving dinner in late November, and we have
what we will call an Uncle Komb That was the
name of the character in Dairy Girls. Coomb. It's a
hysterical series, by the way, butte I recommended all my friends.
(05:17):
So what do we do with an uncle Komb who
just takes the conversation and starts to run away with
the conversation but never leaving the circle of people who
he thinks he's entertaining.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Yeah, okay, so well, first, let's be empathetic, like this
person might we don't know, Let's give them the benefit
of the doubt. They might think that they are really entertaining.
They might think they're doing everyone a great service by
you know, filling the airwaves. Or they might also just
be completely clueless that they're having an impact on anyone else.
(05:51):
So let's start with you know, I'm a therapist. I
like to be empathic, give people the benefit of the doubt.
Then it kind of depends on your relationship ship with
the person. If this is someone you have a good
relationship with, you feel close to, so you could say, hey,
you know, it's great how you love to tell stories,
(06:14):
but I think maybe you're dominating the conversation, or or
even if you're you know, you could say, hey, you know,
it's really you could use a little bit of humor
and say gosh, you have a lot to say about that,
and then gently uh change the subject. You know, if
this is someone that's really like a close uncle, you
(06:34):
could like say, hey, come on over here, I got
to talk to you about something, and just say hey,
you know, I think that it would be great if
you asked a few more questions like this. You know
that that you're you're telling a lot of great stories,
but people love it when you ask questions. So I
think some of this when you're dealing with someone who
talks a lot, it really depends a lot on your
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relationship with them because it's very delicate, like no one
really wants to be scolded. You need to know when
can you use levity and when do you need to
use another tactic.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Well, I think that's very good advice because I think
that that's something that you have to think about. What
is the relationship with the person who you are about
to true upon as they hold court. My wife is
very good. She she always tells me listen, listen, listen,
and ask questions of other people. So that's the advice
(07:31):
that I have been given. And when I don't pay
attention to that advice, she will interrupt with greater poem
by the way, but certainly she's she makes me sensitive
to this. Uh and uh, I think it's something all
of us should think about. Uh. And I think you've
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provided some really interesting and solid advice to take into consideration.
Who you're about to interrupt, Leslie? How how often are
you in the Post and the WAPO, as we say,
you in there every week or so?
Speaker 6 (08:06):
No, it's sort of it.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
This is for the Ask a Therapist column, but sometimes
I write for other sections. I primarily write about mental health.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
All right, Well, if folks want to get in touch
with you, is it possible if people have a question
that they could they could direct towards you?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Well, yes, they can certainly write into the Washington Post
and say, you know, to the Ask a Therapist you
call them and say, hey, I've got a question for
a therapist, or they can reach out to me on
my website at Leslie Alderman dot com.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Sounds great, Leslie, Thank you so much, and again, keep
thinking about running for political office, because with a name
like Aldermen, Aldermen for Aldermen, no one would forget your candidacy.
I think you would sweep to victory wherever you run
as long the obviously the post you're seeking is an
Alderman post. If it's a city council, it's not going
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to work.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Great advice that my retirement plan.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Okay, Leslie, appreciate your time. Thank you so much. Love
to have you back. Thank you very much. Okay, all right,
we get back. We're going to talk about the Republican
tax bill, which includes an couple, well a lot of
interesting provisions. We're going to focus on one. By the way,
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(09:31):
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(09:51):
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My name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside, and we will
be right back with more conversation with another guest right
after this.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Happen to be joined by Chris Carosa. He's a certif
I trust In fiduciary advisor, senior contributed to Forbes, and
author of the Parent's Guide to Turning Your Team into
a Millionaire. Oh wouldn't that be wonderful? How are you,
Chris Caroso?
Speaker 5 (10:33):
I'm doing great. How are you?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I'm doing wonderful. Sally, give some sort of internet airplane
or something. I'm getting a lot of air noise in
the background here.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
I'm actually in a car.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Okay, well that's just that'll do it too. But that's okay,
keep those windows rolled up if you don't mind. So
the President refers to this on big beautiful bill tax bill.
But we're going to focus on one aspect of it,
and that is the President wants mega accounts and wants
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to give babies one thousand dollars. Obviously, give the parents
of those babies one thousand dollars to be put in
the equivalent of some sort of a savings account to
get someone started on the treadmill of life. Tell us
about it. How's this plan going to work, Chris?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
I think it's described somewhat like a four oh one
K for kids, where you put the money in, they'll
put the thousand dollars in there. That's yeah, that's so so.
But the more exciting thing, assuming it passes, is the
ability for the parents to contribute up to five thousand
dollars a year until the child turns eight. When you
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get that kind of money compounded over a long time,
it can really accumulate some big assets and solve a
lot of problems that I think we're having overall, in
particular with Social Security. With that kind of donations and
at an eight percent return until the child is age seventy,
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that contribution, those contributions are seven point four million dollars.
That's a good amount of money to retire on.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah. So what you yeah, certainly would be okay. So
what you're saying is the federal government when a child
is born, or would this be retroactive for children up
to a certain age or or once does this have
to pass Congress, be signed by the White House, and
anyone born after that date would qualify. I assume that's
the way it is.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
I think the version that I saw, it's over the
next three years, say baby's born, over the next three years,
we'll get this thousand dollars from the government. Okay, I
don't know if that five thousand dollarmentation is also only
limited to those kids, but if it's better, If it's not.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
It's okay, you threw me on that one. What do
you mean it's better if it's not. What do you
mean by that?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
It's better if it's not limited, just as those kids?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Oh, right, right, right, right right, So yeah, hopefully this
should go forward. So the account is opened by money
from the federal government for thousand dollars, and then the
parents keen, if they so choose, contribute up to five
thousand dollars for the first seven years of the child's life.
So that would mean when they turn what seven, they're
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going to have thirty six thousand dollars plus whatever interest
was was developed, and at that point the contributions from
the parents would cease. But just the compounding is going
to turn that money by time that theoretical child turns
seventy at an eight percent compounded rate, to seven point
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four million dollars. And this is separate and apart from
the proposal that the President has floated, which moms and
dads would be given five thousand dollars separate, apart for
every child to help with the costs of the first
few years or a child's life. Correct.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yeah, this is totally different. Dad was to the parents.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
This is to the kids.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Okay, fine, And this also would be good I assume
for your industry, the estate planning industry, the certified trust
in saery industry as well, because a lot of parents
would look at this money and say what do I
do with this? And they're going to need to seek
some help.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
I assume, Oh, yeah, definitely it would be good for
the industry. But I think it would be also good
for public policy, because if you have less pressure on
social Security, then you're more likely to fulfill the promise.
The government is more likely to fulfill the promises that
it made to the people.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah. The problem with that, as I'm sure you are
more than aware, is that the Social Security Trust Fund
periodically they tell us it's going to run out in
twenty thirty four. Now what happens is that they raised
taxes or they're able to do something, But it would
be quite a time before the fruit of the seeds
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that are being planted with this so called mega account.
Before those seeds bear fruit, it would be somewhere around
seventy years down the line, So we're talking about pretty
darn close to the turning of the next century before
kids who are being born now actually reach retirement age
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in the age of which they can take advantage of
this program. It's but as someone once said, when is
the best day to plant a tree? Yesterday? Get it started.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
You've got to start somewhere, and you might as well
start at the easiest point and then work backward if
you need to.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Absolutely, Chris, how can first of all thank you for
doing this. How can any of our listeners get in
touch with you? I'm sure you have a website that
you could direct people to.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
I have a website called childira dot com. Just go
there and there's some nice articles you can read and
maybe even a place you can sign up to get
more information.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, I'll tell you any parent who can put some
money away childira dot com. It's so important because if
you bring someone into the world, whatever your financial circumstances are,
whatever you can do to sort of plan for that
child's future, whether it involves college education, vocational education, and
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then a little bit of a grubstake for them to
get started. It's so important, it is. It's just amazing.
Very few people are born with that proverbial silver spoon
in their mouth, and so for everyone else who's not
born with a silver spoon in their mouth, or as
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Anne richard Is, the former governor of Texas, once said,
some people get born on third base and they think
they've hit a triple. These are great ideas, and I
thank you chrispher explaining him as clearly as as you
did tonight for my audience. And I hope to have
you back all right.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
You're welcome. And how's that car ride going? Where are
you driving? By the way, I'm just kind of curious.
Where abouts are you? What state?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I'm driving from Buffalo to Rochester. I'm in the middle
of a book tour on Lafayec. It's another book that
I wrote.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I'll tell you our station. When you hang up, go
to ten thirty and your am Dowd. You'll be able
to hear us. We boom up into all right, I
will up into northern New York out of New England
are fifty thousand WAT longtime radio station, so you will
be able to hear the next guest. We're going to
talk about Jason Tatum's achilles injury and which he suffered
(18:07):
Monday night playing against the Knicks. Thank you again, Chris appreciated.
Thanks then, all right, and by the way, any of
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We will be back. We're going to talk with an
orthopedic surgeon from Tough's Medical Center, doctor Atsushi Endo, about
(18:51):
Jason Tatum and his torn achilles, how it happens, how
it's treated, and what's the recovery period. It's a tough
recovery period. Back nightside right after the news at the
bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
So you're on night Side with Dan Ray on w
Boston's News radio.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Well, all of us have seen that horrific accent. Well, accident,
it was an accident that Jason Tatum suffered on Monday
night at Madison Square Garden Garden when he tore his achilles.
So all sorts of questions is how does it happen,
how's this treated? And what's the recovery period? With us
(19:30):
is doctor at Sushi Endo? Uh, he's an orthopedic surgeon
and Tuff's Medical Center. Doctor Endo, welcome to Nightside.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Thank you for joining us, Oh, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So I think most of us understand that there's a
lot of torque put on professional basketball players legs as
they're as they're stopping and starting and going in directions,
in different directions. I assume that's what what caused him
to go down with this injury. We've all seen it.
(20:01):
Break it down for us if you would, we can
visualize it when you were watching or if you were
if you watch the replay, how long did it take
you to figure out that it was going to be
an achilles problem that he'd have to deal with?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Oh, so just by looking at the videos, sometimes it's difficult,
you know, but usually the athletes, our patients tell you
that where the pain is, and also they kind of
describe how it happened. Then we can kind of tell
what's going on, but just by looking at the video
it's sometimes difficult, like what's going on?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Well, he was writhing in pain, and when I looked
at it, I thought to myself, and I'm not a doctor,
this is a serious injury. So it has now been
diagnosed as an achilles. It is something that you would
think that a twenty seven year old professional basketball player
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would have done all this stretching exercises. It was late
in the game and all of that. What do they
do to how do you treat this? I mean, this
is a huge surgical procedure that he now has undergone.
Let's talk about the the procedure yourself. Is it a
difficult surgery to to to actually complete? I assume as
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an orthopedic surgeon, you're much more familiar with this procedure
than anyone in my audience.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Sure, so, yes, you know the I kind of tendon,
the rupture. It can be treated surgically or non surgically.
But in terms of surgery, the surgery itself is relatively straightforward,
meaning that basically the tendons are torn, so we repair
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often with the futures, so we open up the skin
tend on his torn so we just repair, like you know,
just so up and put it together. That's how the
surgery goes. Usually takes like probably less than one hour.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
People who I know who have had achilles say that
they had the sensation of an elastic snapping and the
achilles sort of rolls up like an elastic up their legs.
Is that a common thing that you've heard from patients.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yes, that's true.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
And the actual people often say that that they hear
a snapping sound or feeling of snapping, and often they
say that, you know, they feel like somebody was hitting
from the behind of the calf, but actually nobody was there.
That's how they often describe it.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Is Is it because of the the amount of torque
or the amount of pressure that is being put put
on this it's it's it? Is it a tendon or
a ligament or is it a bit of both? Uh?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
That's uh. Acquits tendon so not the ligaments and tendons.
Is the largest tendon in the body, and that connects
the calf muscle and the hue bone.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah. And when the surgery is done as quickly. Again,
Tatum had this surgery done. I found out tonight in
New York. He didn't originally said he was going to
come back to Boston and have an MRI I done.
The surgery was done immediately in New York by apparently
very competent surgeon. What's the uh, the prognosis for a recovery?
(23:38):
And again I know that he's not your patient, so
you haven't seen the charts, but generally when someone has
a an achilles tendon injury like this, uh, this is
not a quick recovery as I understand it, certainly not
a quick recovery for a guy to get back on
a basketball court.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
You're truly right, So you know, I see more like
you know the general population in my practice, and the
recovery time is quite long, and the usually retweet with
the specialized boot after surgery, and then you have to
you have to wear that specialized boots for at least
(24:21):
I would say two to three months. Then you start
doing some rehab afterwards. So at the earliest, even in
a recreational level, it takes at least I would say
four to six months, but at the professional level it
could be longer or depending on how they do. Yeah,
(24:42):
that's a typical recovery time.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Okay, so here's a dumb question, but I get paid
no put the ask of the dumb questions. Are you
in that boot day and night twenty four to seven
for a period of time or can you at least
take the boot off to take a shower or to
sleep in a bed without the boot? Tell us about that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
So in general, even so surgery versus no surgery, that
treatment is similar. And this in my practice, I almost
always use specialized boot and the initially, at least the
first like six weeks or so, I recommend wearing the
boot almost twenty four to seven and the only just
(25:32):
to take it off only if really necessary. If that's
the case, I recommend patients to keep the foot in
a plant of flexed position, meaning that the foot is
flexing down downward.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Oh okay, yeah, so this is a Is this a
an injury? And I hate to even ask this question,
but is this an injury that is more common amongst
young people. I've had friends of mine. I'm not going
to mention some of the people who you would know
(26:10):
who have done this. Uh? Or is this something that
is more common with people as they get older and
their tendons become you know, more I guess tenuous would
be yeah, sure, sure, yeah, that's fair. What what is
what's what's the likelihood? Because everybody looks at that and
(26:30):
they say, well, that can't be me because I'm not
a professional basketball players. It's a it's a it's a
an incident accident that that occurs, not just a professional
basketball players.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Pretty right, So of course, and I see more I
you know, uh general population that it's was the very
common injuries and the uh it's a more common with
a sudden motion involving activities such as basketball or maybe football, soccer,
(27:07):
and the age wise more common for middle age like
thirties or forties, so they are actively enough, but not
like the tissues are not that young and healthy.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, so okay, So what you're suggesting is that for
the average person who is living life and has put
the basketballs and the soccer balls and the footballs away
and they're not out trying to relive the glories of
their youth, they're less likely to suffer this if they're
not out you know, on the field, so playing every
(27:44):
weekend on the court, is what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
So well, well, yeah, well I don't want to quit.
You know that those are the fund activities, but yeah,
just more common, definitely more common for weekend warriors.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, okay, fair enough, fair, but there are things that
you can do. Look, I really do appreciate it. I
enjoyed chatting with you. I am always amazed what those
of you who are in the orthopedic field are able
to do. You literally reconstruct people. So I just want
to say thank you for joining us tonight, doctor Endel,
(28:18):
but also thank you for doing what you and your
colleagues do. I have several friends of mine in the
orthopedic surgical field, and I'm amazed at what you folks
are able to do to bring people back to their
old self. Let me put it like that. Thanks, thanks
so much.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Oh well, thank you for a kind war that. I
appreciate that, and thank you for having me here.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
Enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Thank you very much, Doctor Atsushi, Endo, orthopedic surgeon at
the Toughs Medical Center. All Right, we're going to be
back right after this quick break for a couple of
commercial messages, and I might end up previewing what we're
going to be talking about tonight. So we have a
fourth guest who is amongst the miss put all said,
(29:03):
we have the fourth guest. Now I'm told the fourth
guest is set, so I won't have to vamp. We'll
be back with a fourth guest right after this.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Well, I'm delighted. Welcome David Hamilton, who's the author of
a book entitled The Enigmatic Aviator. Charles Lindbergh revisited the
ninety eighth anniversary of the flight of the Spirit of
Saint Louis will be fast upon us, Doctor Hamilton. You're required.
(29:41):
You're a retired kidney surgeon, so the appellation doctor Hamilton
is appropriate. You're an award winning historian in both medicine,
says Golf. I don't know if you're an award winning
historian Golf, but welcome. How are you.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
I'm okay, I'm okay. It's a bad dye, it's a
we'll do her best.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, I guess we will. I'm a little confused as
to why your company acts to be on. We could
have waited until you were back in the States, minderstanding
as you're in Scotland tonight, correct. Indeed, is that where
you live or are you over there on a visit?
Speaker 6 (30:23):
No, I live here, I live here, you live there?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Okay, well, yeah, these lines are tough. Let's try to
got through it here. So you have done a history
of Charles Lindbergh, and Lindbergh has been a considered many times.
Many people like sort of a controversial character who dominated
aviation breakthroughs in the early to mid twentieth century. Some
(30:50):
suggested that he was a little bit more than an
American isolationist. He was that, but you have basically said,
maybe he's given a bad rap with some of the
reputation that have been attached to him. Tell us about that.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Yeah, well, he actually had a super reputation, good biographies.
He was a friend of the White House, invited to
everything until Philip Roth wrote the novel historical novel The
Plot Against America in two thousand and four, and unfortunately,
everybody has seemed to believe what was in the novel.
(31:33):
Even the HBO had a mini series on it as
if it was a documentary. So the idea that he
was a Nazi anti Samite is quite recent and I'm
doing my best to untangle that untangle that don.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
What called you were summons? You did this cause Lindbergh
died in nineteen seventy four, so he's been gone now
for just I guess fifty one years. He was someone
whose child was kidnapped. His family after he became famous,
(32:11):
was the victim of I guess at that point, the
world's most well known kidnapping. What prompted what prompted you
to in effect try to revive his reputation?
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Funnily enough, Dan, in my field, I was a transplant
surgeon in Scotland, and they transplant surgeons we all knew
about lindberghen and revered them because he had invented He
invented a device to keep organs alive. So that's why
(32:46):
I got into it, from here in Scotland and from medicine.
And I started studying his huge archive at Yale, and
I found a lot more interesting stuff on his scientific contributions.
And then I realized he'd been given a hard time recently,
(33:07):
and I wanted to unscramble it. The the reason that
Ruth could bad mouth them in the in the novel
was that Lindbergh took on President Roosevelt at the beginning
of the Second World War, Roosevelt wanted to.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Get in and.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Lindbergh led the movement to.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Keep out of the of the European War at least
not send any any troops. Of course, that all that
all finished with Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
The debate was over.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Although America was split down the middle, Pearl Harbor just finished.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
The whole thing was was Lindbergh ethnically German American?
Speaker 6 (33:54):
Sorry I missed that, then?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Was was Jarles Lindbergh from an ethnic point of view?
German American?
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Nothing to do with Germany, nor certainly one than that sage.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Oh no, no, I'd said that. I'm just wondering what
his ethnic derivation when his four bears came where his
four bears came from? That contribute? Did that contribute inadvertently
to the reputation or unfairly to the reputation? Is what
I'm asking you.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
There were Swedish? Okay, Swedish grandfather.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Okay, fair enough, Okay, that's that's helpful. Did Lindbergh After
World War Two? Lindbergh sort of disappeared? I think, if
my memory is correct. What was he doing from the
time the war ended and Roosevelt's presidency ended. What did
(34:49):
he do in the fifties and sixties up until his
death in seventy four. How did he live out his
life after the great heroic feats of the the first
you know, cross Atlantic flow ight and having you know,
survived the loss of a child. How did the rest
of the latter half of his life go quietly or
did he stay in the public eye.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
As you say, Dan. After Roosevelt died, then Lindberg. Everybody
welcomed Lindberg back into their lives and back into the
Air Force, into secret work. He was involved in the
sec the special air going of the atomic bombers. This
(35:36):
was all of course secret stuff. So when I was
in his archive, I could see that he was involved
at the high level in the various committees, even planning
the atomic warfare right through to Polaris. But he had
to destroy all the minutes and stuff that came through,
so you only get hints what he was up to.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
But he was in there at the highest level.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
Advising the Air Force in particular. It was even it
was even considered for the for the cabinet position in
the early nineteen fifties. He was considered for that he
was so highly regarded, but it was secret, and hence
it's been very badly described. But there it was in
in his archives, so.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
He So that would have been once Eisenhower became president.
I assume if it was the early fifties, either the
end of Truman's time in office or Eisenhower.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
Eisenhower thought a lot about him, restored his rank he
had pretty well. It was taken away from him pretty
well by Roosevelt, and I gave him back. Kennedy thought
a lot of him. Reagan thought a lot of them
as well, even even afterwards.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Interesting, doctor Hamilton, I appreciate you time. I'm glad that
we finally got you. The book is the Enigmatic Aviator
Charles Lindbergh revisited. The book is now out. I assume
it's available in Amazon, and I'm sure it's going to
be a great success.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Good good, Thanks very much, Dan, You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Thanks for staying up late. I'm assuming it's already probably
closer to one o'clock, maybe even two am in Scotland
at this hour. It is off to bed now, all right,
Good night, doctor David Hamilton. Thank you for being for
finally getting in touch with US. Tonight we get back.
We're going to talk about that tragedy in Boston on
(37:37):
April twenty eighth, little five year old boy gets off
a school bus and seconds later is dead. That story
has kind of gone away, and I'd like to get
it back up on everyone's radar screen. We'll be back
on Night's side right after the nine o'clock news
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