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July 24, 2025 40 mins
Highlighting InBoston Magazine and special upcoming feature of Dan Rea coming out in the magazine!
Guest: AnnMarie LaFauci – Editor of InBoston Magazine

 
Lizard on the loose in Webster! What the public needs to know about the 5 foot long water monitor lizard!
Guest: Gordon D. Wentworth, Jr. - Deputy Chief of Police Webster Police Department

 
Trump's latest demand: Washington football and Cleveland baseball teams should change names back
Guest: Sheila Rondeau - marketing strategist and the CEO of MOGXP 

Renewed Push for CPR Graduation Requirement in Massachusetts Schools.
Guest: MA Senator Bruce Tarr
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's NIC's Eye with Dan Ray. I'm going you mazy
Boston's news radio.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Beg you very much, Madison Rogers. As we begin a
Thursday night edition of Nightside take you all the way
to midnight. We have four hours of really rock'm soccer
radio coming up alongside, well, actually not alongside. He is
in Medford, Massachusetts, at the Big Sock at broadcast headquarters
of iHeart Media, and it's Rob Brooks. He'll take all

(00:26):
of your calls. Beginning at nine o'clock. We're going to
talk ironically about a change or proposed change in residential
zoning laws in Medford that's interesting, and also going to
talk about the potential concession strike. You may have to
go to the Red Sox game tomorrow night and not
have a beer, but he'll save some money. You look
at it at the Ying and the Yang. My name's

(00:48):
Dan Ray. I'm the host of the show, and we
have four really interesting guests coming up this hour, starting
off with Ian Marie Lafouci. Ann Marie is the editor
of In Boston magazine, a great magazine that published is
five times a year. It's not a monthly magazine five
times a year, but I think it's really quite good.

(01:10):
And with us is the aforementioned Anne, Marie Lafouci and Marie.
Welcome to Nightside.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Thank you, thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Tell us about in Boston magazine. It's been around for
a while. Uh, and what is its It's north Star?
What's it? What's it goal? What is its goal? What
is How would you describe it to somebody in thirty
seconds if you're sitting next to the airplane and they said, oh,
you're an editor of a magazine, tell me about it.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
So actually that's the perfect way I describe it. If
you get off a magazine an airplane and to Boston
and you know otherwise not from here, and you pick
up the in Boston magazine, we are a hope is
that you will find like true stories, really like alive
in Boston, people, places, things to do, not so much

(02:02):
the famous. Everybody already knows everyone, but when you pick
up the magazine, we want to show you authentically what
Boston is all about. In New England, you know, the
whole New England area, we find people who you wouldn't
know about otherwise maybe, but you know, they're like doing
pretty epic things. Around the city and.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Matter of fact, correct me if I'm wrong. But on
the cover of your summer magazine that will be coming out,
you have three gentlemen, including Christopher Knight, the actor.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yes, uh raby he was the Peter Brady.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Oh yeah, I think everybody would know that. But he's
imposing there with two really remarkable guys. One is a
fellow named Dan Cummings, who I know pretty well of
Journey Forward, and Jake Tebow who's a high school hockey
player who I had at my show as well, great
friends of my friend Jack Dougherty of College Hype over

(03:01):
in Dorchester. Tell us what the commonality is on this
magazine in terms of these three individuals. They are doing
miraculous things.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
They really are, so they run well. Dan Cummings, as
you know, was a Q six quadriplegic and he was
told he would never walk again. He didn't take that
for an answer. He went to California. He went around
the world, really and went to California. He got treated.
He came back walking with a walker, which is unheard of,

(03:31):
but he brought the treatment back with him because he
was determined to help other people that were also told
they couldn't walk. So the whole concept of his place
is to help people, you know, become way fer than
they would otherwise. You know, insurance doesn't cover at all.
So they have a huge event every year, the Journey Forward.
Casino Knight and Christophen Knight has been for sixteen years

(03:52):
one of the major spokesperson and sponsors of the event,
so he flies in every year. He supports it. And
Jake Tebow unfortunately became paralyzed in a hockey accident as
you know, a couple of years back, and he's training
at It's amazing. We went to visit the place. It's
so inspiring. Everybody's just the attitudes, everything is, it's just incredible.

(04:13):
And he's he's I mean, I saw him standing on
a walker. So it's things that you would otherwise not
know could ever happen, are happening at Journey.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
It's a fantastic gas.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
It gives hope, gives hope to so many people. I
have a mutual friend with Dan Cummings who introduced me
to Dan kind of be fourteen fifteen, maybe sixteen years ago.
Been to a number of their fundraisers in their events.
They're just absolutely great people. So this magazine pretty easy

(04:45):
to find. Just go to in Boston magazine dot com
and when you get there, you'll see the big website
and there's three lines up in the upper left hand corner,
and when you hit those three lines, you can bring
yourself down to the word purchase, So there's a way
to purchase the magazine. Eventually it will be digitalized so

(05:08):
that people will be able to read it if they
would like. And then you have a big event coming
up in East Boston to celebrate this summer magazine that
is that's coming out August twentieth, and people can actually
go to that. There's a small charge involved, but they
get a magazine and they get to participate. It's on

(05:30):
a tall ship, as I understand it correct.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, it's beautiful. I don't know if you've been, but
it's in it's any Boston. It's sort of a huge
reminds me of like the old fashioned beach style, you know,
on the water tent. They have a tent and everything.
There's an actual old toolship that you can walk up on.
Entertainment and our events always have some you know, really
fun extra people that you know, people love to see

(05:55):
and mingle with. We don't have Christopher Knight there. We
also have on the other side of the magazine is
the Love on a Spectrum cast, the Boston cast as
well as Callie who Christopher and I has a production
company and did a documentary on her William syndrome with
a true love foundation. So a lot of great people
will be there. And there's so many great stories in

(06:18):
this particular issue. It's my favorite to date, including we
got to interview Dan. I mean yeah, Dan, right, yes, so,
and we're so excited about that.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, I'm excited to see that that story too, I hope.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
The fellow who did the story is a really talented writer.
It's it's a great magazine. It really does reflect Boston
people and let it let it, let it reflect that
no one is purchasing uh that you sell ads obviously,
but no one can buy themselves.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
We have no profiles, yeah, no fake reviews, no fluff.
We don't do any hit you know, hit pieces on anyone.
It's all authentic story that come to us and the
only way we and also they're all collaborators. Everybody involved
in the magazine is doing it because they love what
we're doing. Our advisory board, we have so many great
people on the Ernie Buck Junior.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, Matt Madwize form a great offensive tackle with the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, And Matt and Suzie asked me to make sure
I said hi to you tonight. They love you some much.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Oh, they're great people. They're absolutely great people. And you
had Sean O'Brien Charlestown's well medic.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
Yeah, actually so Metho.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, I grew up in Maldon, so we grew up
together on the same kind of neck of the woods.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
And Anne Marie, I just want to say thanks very
much for joining us tonight. I hope people will take
the time to stop by in Boston Magazine dot com.
Check it out. There's these three lines which you can
you can see a lot here. You can go and
perhaps attend the event. You can get magazines. The photography
is amazing. It's it's a really great magazine. And it's

(07:57):
not there to sell you things. It's there to tell
you story worries about Boston, the people who really make
up Boston. And I'm very proud to have been included
a little bit in this in this edition that is
coming out, so if any of my listeners are interested,
it is in Bostonmagazine dot com. And that edition is
going to be available within a week or so, is

(08:19):
if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
And then in addition to that, I always post them
on our social media, so there'll be a complimentary issue
posted that everyone can read through when it's usually we
do it right after the event only, so it's like
a special at the event and they other first to
get it.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Sounds great, sounds great. And Marie Lafauci, I'm going to
a big fan of the magazine and I will be
following it and if there's any way I can get
up there on the twentieth, I will. I've got some
scheduled conflicts, but we'll see what happens. And I look
forward to seeing you at some point in the not
too distant future. And Marie, thank you so much and
best of luck as you continue within Boston Magazine dot com.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Thank you so much, my place, thank you, thank you
so much. I appreciate it. Have a great weekend, exactly.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
I appreciate it so much. Okay, before we go to
our commercial break real quickly here, I want to remind
all of you of a cool way that you can
become a part of the Nightside broadcast by utilizing our
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(09:24):
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(09:46):
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Speaker 6 (10:00):
Throw right, Hey Dan, Ryan calling from Lowell, Massachusetts. I
figured i'd test out the new talkback feature. I just
want to let you know you're doing a great job.
First time talkback whatever you want to call it. But yeah, hey,
great show and carry on, Thanks.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Very much, Ryan from Lowell, Massachusetts. All right, so again
you know what to do, be telling you and giving
you instructions and loved. Have you drop by. It's a
simple I would call it a talkback drop by because
we have to listen to what you say. There's no
interaction between you and me. I'll cam into what you
have to say obviously. When we get back, we're going

(10:38):
to talk about a five foot long water monitor lizard.
You're gonna love this story. Coming back on Nightside.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's News Radio.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
If you happen to live in Webster, Massachusetts, or anywhere
near Webster, Massachusetts and actually Worcester. Huge story out there.
It's a five foot long story, a five foot long
water monitor lizard. Wow, you should see this specimen is
on the loose. On the loose with us is the

(11:16):
deputy police chief of the town of Webster, Deputy Chief
Gordon Wentworth. Deputy Chief Wentworth, thanks so much for joining us.
It's been a long day. Any sign of the water
monitor lizard today?

Speaker 5 (11:32):
Thanks for having me. No sign of him, No sign
of him for the last it's been almost a week.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
It's just been about a week. I happened to notice
that I think that he decided to he leapt out
of an open window. How high was the window? Off?
The ground site. I hope it was a first full window.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
No it wasn't. It was the second floor window. We're
told that he leaped out of the window onto a roof,
like a garage roof of sorts, and then hopped down
from there and off he went.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Okay, how far? And again you cannot I cannot expect
you to be an expert on these lizards, but you
I'm sure I know a lot more about it than
I do. So let me ask you. When we talked today,
I didn't ask any questions. We do this unscripted. What
sort of a range does a lizard like this have?

(12:20):
Is he gonna? Is it a he or she? First
of all, do we know? It doesn't matter?

Speaker 5 (12:25):
I actually don't know. I know, I know his name.
If you're interested in that, his name is Goose.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Goose I'm guessing maybe named after Goose Gossage the Great
Relief Pictures. So let's assume it's a male. I don't know. Yeah, sure, okay, So.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
In terms of in terms of in terms of the range,
you know, the only thing that I can tell you
is that we know we've been told that they can
go far and fast. I don't know what that means
I don't know what the range is. We know that
they're there. They're expert tree climbers and they gravitate towards water.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
I know that the been a couple of little funny
as those little little funny emojis or whatever that you'll
show a big monster coming out of one of your
legs which is unpronounceable out there, Ye could could I
ask you? Uh, and again, if I ask you something
that's that's offbeat, tell me you can't tell me. Did

(13:20):
the owner, like say, why they would leave the window open?
I mean, you know, did you guys get a chance
to chat with the owner a little bit about the
circumstances of this guy's departure.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
No, we didn't.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
We didn't.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
I don't know that we get a chance to talk
to the owner. I know that the it's being investigated
by the Mass Environmental Police, but we do know that
the that the window was left open and the and
the lizard actually broke through the screen is what we're.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Told broke through the screen as well. Wow, yeah, this
guy wanted out, did and uh, we don't. We don't
know how long the lizard had Again, I think some
people have have called it friend, a kimono dragon or whatever.
There's a number of different names. But do we know

(14:06):
how long this this monitor water a water monitor lizard
had been in your fine community? Any idea?

Speaker 5 (14:19):
No, we don't know. We don't know how long he
was a resident of our of our town. But and
I don't know how you know, I don't know how
how small they are when they're born or anything like that.
So I have no I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Well, I can tell you, and I'm sure at some
point you've seen a little lizard. Most people have seen
a little lizard maybe three inches long, kind of screwed
underneath some shrubbery. Uh. And it scares the heck out
of it when they're three inches Like, what's that? I
could just imagine if someone runs across the lizard goose

(14:51):
out out in the wild out in the wilderness here,
what it's gonna be the they have to be predators
out in the webster area, meaning you have a you're
a rural area. What what do you got out there?
You got deer, you got fox and stuff? A week?

Speaker 5 (15:07):
Oh yeah, well we have everything. I mean, any sort
of wild animal that you could have mattered in the
New England area we have I mean, coyotes, bear, I
mean all all kinds of different things. So you know,
it's possible that that goose has fallen victim to some
sort of animal of prey. At this point, you know,
we haven't gotten any reports of any sightings, but it's
equally as possible that he's out living his best life.

(15:29):
I mean, who knows.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
I think it would be interesting when when we get
a final investigation. I hope that the poor little thing survives.
Would they be different? How difficult would they be to
capture if someone, let's say, walking on the trail saw him.
By time someone who was able to get out there
from mass wildlife, goose could be I mean, you know,

(15:55):
half a mile away.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
Yeah, I mean I would think he's going to be
fairly elusive, and I would that he's going to be
fairly difficult to catch. I think it would be a
situation where you know, mass wildlife or you know, environmental
police or or somebody who has a proper equipment would
have to set traps in an area you know, where
somebody had possibly seen him.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, any idea? What the diet as? Again? I asked
questions what what goose could live on out there is
I assume smaller animals.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
Yeah, yeah, sure, so they're there. You know, we've learned
a lot about water monitors in the last week. Believe
it or not. Their diet, I mean, they're they're an
aquatic animal, right, so they're they're reptiles. They like water,
so they like to feed on fish, waterfowl, frogs, small mammals.
You know, if they come into contact with small mammals.

(16:46):
So they are carnivores, so I mean they will they
will eat smaller animals.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
What advice are you folks officially giving to anyone who
might run across goose, either in their backyard or out
on a trail.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
I mean, certainly, don't approach. Don't approach the animal, and
just just call nine on one or call the Webster
police and we'll get resources out there.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
I don't know how long you've been on the police force,
but I imagine this is the first time you ever
had to deal with capturing a water monitor lizard.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
You know, I've worked for the wester Police Department for
twenty seven years and I don't ever remember a five
foot lizard running around town.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
No, you probably had a lot of interesting stories, but this,
this might be one of the more interesting ones. Deputy Chief.
First of all, thanks very much. You were you're a
great sport to go on and talk with me about this.
But this is the sort of story that people really
do get interested in, ironically. I mean, there's a lot
more important stories out there, obviously, and there are so

(17:49):
many tragic stories. This is why that we can kind
of laugh about a little bit and hope it turns out,
okay for for goose to five foot longer monitor lizard.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
Sure, and certainly Goose is quickly, very quickly becoming a
bit of an urban legend here in Webster. So I mean,
it's it's it's interesting to say the least.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Maybe they'll rename the football team the water monitor Lizards.
What's the football team called out in Webster the high.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
School football the Barlet Indians.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Bartlet Indians. Okay, I like that. That's good. I like
honoring Native Americans, And there's no doubt, Deputy Chief, thanks
so much. You've been really a pleasure to talk to.
And if you have come across them and you recapture them,
I want you to come back and take a victory
lap if that's.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
Okay, sure, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Thanks so much, Thanks very much best as they had
everyone in Webster. It's a beautiful community. Thanks everything, Thank
you very much. You're very welcome. Deputy, I appreciate it
so much. The Deputy Chief of Police of the Webster
Police Department, Gordon Wentworth, Gordon D. Wentworth Junior. And it
just shows to it goes to show you that police officers,

(19:03):
they never every day can have a little bit of
a surprise, and this was a big surprise, that's for sure.
When we get back, we're going to talk ironically about
the Washington Redskins and the Cleveland Indians, the former football
and baseball team now the Washington Commanders and the Cleveland Guardians.
President Trump is putting some pressure on both the NFL

(19:24):
and MLB to change the names back. We'll maybe talk
about that some night, give you an opportunity to weigh in.
But in the meantime, we're going to talk with a
marketing strategist and CEO of a company called mog XP,
Shila Rondeau. Coming back on the Night Side right after
the News at the bottom of the hour. I loved
that story about the Liziers.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Thanks, Madison. I'm delighted to welcome as our next guest,
Sila Rondeau. Sheila, I think I got that name right.
I'm pretty good on on French name French names. How
are you?

Speaker 4 (20:02):
I'm well, thank you and yes you got it.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Okay. You're a marketing strategist and the CEO of a
company called mag mong XP. I know what a marketing
strategists are? What type of businesses do you work? Is
there a specific industry that you're involved in.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
We work across many industries in lots of different categories.
We do everything from CpG to auto to electronics.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
What is CpG.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Consumer package goods? Sorry, you know what it's.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
In the world.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
It's like it's like in any business. We all developed
these acronyms. And one of the things that I learned
a long time, I know, if you don't know what
an acronym is, ask what it is. So thank you
for answering. So President Trump, now, who is I don't
know how we can handle these many issues in front
of him? He apparently is threatening to withhold some fun

(21:00):
for a new Washington DC football stadium. I guess on
the land where the old DC Football stadium football and
baseball stadium stood, and he's demanding that the Washington Commanders
changed their name revert back to the Washington Redskins. As

(21:23):
a marketing strategist, how do you want to take how
do you want to deal with that question? Go right ahead?

Speaker 4 (21:31):
So for me, I wouldn't look at it as politics.
When it comes down to it, the team is it's
a business. And when he looks at the business, they
need to make a decision. Does it help them achieve
what they need to is it what your fans want
to do? Will it help you win more games? And

(21:52):
at a certain point they need to focus on playing football.
They had a great season last year and they need
to not be distracted.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, they got to the I think to the finals
against the Eagles, and of course the Eagles. Eagles won.
And the President also is asking for the Cleveland Guardians
to change their name back again. The Redskins used to
be the Boston Redskins. You know, the Washington Redskins actually

(22:22):
moved to Washington from Boston. I'm sure you probably know that.
And they had a Native American coach here and I
think that they chose the name. This would have been
nineteen thirty three, they were playing at Fenway Park, which
of course was the home of the Boston Red Sox,
and so I think they were kind of doing some

(22:42):
marketing circle nineteen thirties to come up with the name.
They could have called them, you know, they could have
called them the Pilgrims if they wanted to or anything.
But it's funny that you mentioned the marketing because I
think they were trying to align at that point the
Boston football team, the Redskins, with the Boston the better
known Boston Red Sox. In terms of the Indians. It

(23:08):
has a it has something of a history. There was
a period. Let me ask you this. I don't want
to put you on the spot that there was a
period in the wake of I think the George Floyd murder,
which of course was horrible, but there was a lot
of efforts made people by organizations to to kind of change.

(23:34):
And now you get a sense that maybe that tide
that came in is starting to go out. Can you identic?
Can you understand what I'm saying by that?

Speaker 4 (23:42):
Yes, But it happened way before that. For years, they
had been getting pressure to change their name. They had
been sued multiple times, and they always stood fast and said,
this is our name and it is not meant to
be disrespectful. It is to honor the Native Americans. And
then the George Floyd happened, and the pendulum swung very far,

(24:10):
and I see it's swinging back. But at the same time,
a year ago they had the opportunity to change their
name again because of the change in ownership. And when
that happened, an Native American group tried to sue the
team again, saying they wanted it to go back to
the Redskins. At a certain point, they need to look

(24:33):
at how long do they mess with this. They've been
messing with this for almost two decades. They made the
decision in twenty twenty. They made the change in twenty
two and actually they only half went into it because
became the Washington football team before they became the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yes, there was that one year, I think where it
was so awkward. They'd be saying the Patriots beat the
Bears today and the Eagles best of the Washington football team.

Speaker 7 (25:07):
It just embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
It did work. Now, are you from the Washington area?
Are you a.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
You?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
It looks to me.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Like you're in Dallas, right I'm in Dallas, but I
have lived all over the world, and to include in
Boston for a while.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
So for me when we when we were in Boston,
if I.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Could ask, I was in the Boston area for two
thousand and seven through eleven.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Woh well, I was doing my radio shot. I had
just left television WBZ and it made the switch to
being a talk show host. When I saw the two
one four, I thought to myself, well, Sheila has to
be a Cowboy fan if she lives in Dallas and
they are the sworn enemy of the Washington football team.
Sounds to me like from a marketing point of view,

(25:58):
you think, and I'm just trying to read, did you
think it might be a wise move for the Washington
team to revert back to the traditional name of the Redskins.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
I love the traditional name, However, I think it is
counterproductive at this point. They've been dealing with this for
all these years. They have made a choice to be
the Commanders, and it cost them millions of dollars every
time they change their name. So at this point I
think they stay fast. They are supposed to be commanders.

(26:32):
Commanders is a nod to the military, be leaders. Figure
out who you are.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
And I guess you got to get a couple more
players to get past the Eagles. But that's another that's
another story. There is finance, you pressure being brought to beer.
I'm sure you're aware that President Trump has said, hey,
there's been money allocated, but he's not going to sign
off on it if they remain. Now again that's there's

(27:00):
there's money on the table there. If you add that
factor in, does it make you even strong? Does it?
Does it? If you were advising them, would you say, look,
you can't look, it's hits. He actually may have from
a counterproductive point of view, by asking and putting pressure,
maybe they're forced to reject that pressure. A lot of

(27:24):
colleges have not rejected the pressure, but at least the
Washington football team would that Would that be the argument
you'd be making to the ownership if you were there
marketing strategist.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
I would stay away from the political side completely. As
a marketing strategist, you do not want to go there.
You do not want to alienate half of your fans.
You've already alienated half of them by moving away from
the Redskins in the first place. Are you then going
to upset the other half of them after you've finally

(27:55):
gotten the quote red Skins fans back because you've had
a couple of good seasons. So at this point I
would not look at it in a political view, depending
on what your politics are. Do you want to do
it for the president? Do you want to steadfast and
say no, I'm not going to do it because I'm

(28:16):
not going to be pushed into it. Either way, it
goes the ownership team has to make a decision on it.
But when it comes down to the brand, they have
spent five years building equity in the Commanders. People are
just now starting to call them the Commanders.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah. The reason I don't think the Redskins are bringing
politics into it, I think that Donald Trump is bringing politics,
or President Trump is bringing politics into it with the
additional financial incentive or disincentive. I mean, it's not as
if the President is speaking simply from the bully pulpit
and saying, gee, I like this name better. He's saying,

(28:56):
if you don't change it back, I'm not going to
give you the money which is going to allow you
to build a new stadium, which of course would be
a big boost. So it's a pretty complicated issue, but
you were You had a clear vision, and I think
clarity is something to be valued in life in every way. Sheila.
I really enjoyed the conversation, and it's good to know

(29:18):
that you were in Boston. Were you going to school
here or were you working up here?

Speaker 4 (29:24):
I was managing an agency there.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
About that, okay, Well, I'm surprised we didn't cross paths
in those days. But we've crossed paths tonight, and I
hope to have you back. Thank you, Sheila. I really
enjoyed our conversation. You're a great sport.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Last question, who's your favorite football team? The Redskins are
the Cowboys?

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Neither?

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Oh, you are a politician and thanks Sheila. Thanks.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
I'm a woman without a team, thank you.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Like Philip mill and a man without a country. All right,
thank you, Sheila. Of a great night, good night. All right,
we get back when we talk about a really smart
piece of legislature. You know, I often criticize the state legislature,
but there's one state senator up there, Bruce Tarr, who
I think makes a lot of sense. He is pushing
a graduation requirement CPR graduation requirement, and I think that

(30:20):
makes a lot of sense. We'll talk with State Senator
Tar right after this break here on a Thursday night
edition at Nightside.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray, Boston's news Radio.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
I think all of you know sometimes I can be
critical of the state legislature, but one member of the
state legislature who I am not critical of is Massachusetts
State Senator Bruce Tarr, because many of the pieces of
legislation that he introduces make a lot of sense, and
I have one here today. He wants a graduation requirement

(30:58):
in Massachusetts public schools to be some level of confidency
with the CPR, the ability to provide CPR to someone
who is in distress. Senator Tar, this would seem like
a no brainer. Where did the idea spring from? And

(31:21):
have you filed this legislation before? Is this the first
time out?

Speaker 7 (31:24):
I haven't done. This is the first time, and I'm
glad you asked the question because this bill has a
very important story in its origin and it comes from
a high school student at Newburyport High School named Madeleine Jackman.
And a few years back, Madeline was in a restaurant
with her family and she was eating and she started
choking and there was only one person who was familiar

(31:46):
with the Heimlich maneuver in the restaurant. Happened to be
a nurse was able to save Madeleine's life, and since
that time, she's committed herself to making sure that as
many of us as possible are trained to be able
to respond with CPR. She started a Red Cross club
at her high school. She's gone out into the community

(32:07):
and she's tried to set up situations where people get
trained and people become aware of the importance of CPR
and aed use. And it was a logical next step
for her when she approached me and said, I really
think we need to do more about this on the
legislative front, and it clearly should be a graduation requirement.
And by the way, Dan, it is a graduation requirement

(32:30):
in all but seven states, with Massachusetts being one of them.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
You anticipated my next question. I want to tell you.
I don't want to brag, but I actually won a medal,
the Heimlich Medal, because I was in a restaurant, a
very high end Asian restaurant, sally Ling's in Newton, Massachusetts,
in the mid nineteen eighties and performed the Heimlich maneuver

(32:54):
on a guy who got up and his windpipe had
been occluded. Took me three times to you know, get
dig my my thumb knuckles into his underneath his sternum,
into his diaphragm. But on the third time that piece
of chicken popped out. So if you ever need someone

(33:17):
to testify about doing it under pressure, I did it.
I was probably in a little bit better shape than
I am these days. But it was very rewarning to
think that in that moment the guy stood up and
the way people know should know when someone is holding

(33:38):
their throat and they can't make a noise, If they
can make any sort of a noise, that means they're okay.
But if they if they are just opening their mouth
and nothing's coming out, that means that windpipe is included.

Speaker 7 (33:52):
Go ahead, Broces, Yeah, Dan, I'm glad you're telling the
story because it makes the central point here, and that
is that any person can save a life, and you're
in the right place at the right time, and you
were skilled to be able to do it, and you
save that person's life. And we want to multiply that
because we train students about all kinds of things in

(34:15):
high school. We prepare them for life. We prepare them
to go out into the world, whether it be to
their next venture in education or into the workforce. And
we teach them a lot of skills, but one of
the most important skills that we can equip them with
is how to perform CPR or use an AED and
save a life. And think about the fact that if

(34:36):
we're able to do that with every high school student
in Massachusetts, how much we're increasing the odds of helping
someone who's in that dire situation. And three hundred and
fifty thousand people in America die every year from sudden
cardiac arrest, not in a hospital. And so when you
think about that, and you think about the fact that

(34:57):
of all of the people that experience a sudden cardioc arrest,
only about forty one percent of them have a bystander
before professional first responders arrive. Only about forty one percent
have a bystander that is able to apply CPR or
use an AED. But when that happens, it increases their

(35:18):
chance of survival by two three as much as four times.
Way just so important.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
I think most people know what an AED is as
an automatic external defibrillator and that's that's almost like the
pads that they use, and you'll see them in restaurants too,
that to basically shock someone's heart back into into rhythm. First,
let me ask you, this is a practical question. You
were amongst the hardy band of Republicans at the state Legislature.

(35:47):
You're not in the majority in either the House, the Senate,
or in the Governor's office. How I'm open, do you
think the Senate President, who's a Democrat, Karen Spelka, or
the House Speaker, a Democrat from Brockton, would be willing
to say, you know, this just makes a lot of sense.
You've come up with it, Let's get it through, and
let's get it done and get it to the governor's desk.

(36:08):
Why should there be any delay on something this obviously smart,
bright and insightful.

Speaker 7 (36:15):
Well, first of all, there shouldn't be. And second, I
always believe that at the Massachusetts State House, as much
as the numbers are lopsided, a good idea still has
the potential to prevail. And I think the Senate President
and the Speaker will see this for what it is,
a very straightforward, very practical measure, and my hope is

(36:35):
that it will pass into law. And you know, you
and I Dan have worked on a lot of issues.
The most common ones have been the ones relating to
animal welfare, where we got bipartisan support and we got
them passed into law. And so there still is the
opportunity if you're willing to work as a member of
the minority party to build coalitions and bring good ideas

(36:57):
to the table and make compelling ours. There still is
a chance to prevail. And I hope this is going
to be one of those instances, particularly because this bill
already has bipartisan sponsorship and that's an important element of
building the coalition.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Well, the other thing is that here we are at
the end of July. We have a week left in
July and then August and school starts here in Massachusetts.
It would be great if this could get into place,
be in place by time when school starts, so schools
can make sure that everybody gets some competency, some minimum

(37:34):
competency in CPR, particularly for those who graduate next spring.

Speaker 7 (37:40):
It certainly would be and it might take some time
to implement this. And you know, one of the things
we do in the bill is charge the Department of
Elementary and Secondary Education with making sure that the rules
are promulgated here so that we can make sure it's
done right. But it would be dan. But I will
tell you this, for every minute that this bill is

(38:00):
not law, we risk someone losing their life because we
don't have a trained person on the scene. And that's
what it's all about. So time is of the essence.
And you know, I did want to mention that for
every minute someone doesn't get CPR or an AED applied,

(38:22):
there are chances of survival decrease by ten percent ten
percent for every minute. So to translate that into legislative terms,
for every minute that we don't have this bill passed,
we don't have this law. We don't have trained folks,
additional trained folks. Not that there aren't folks that are trained.
The American Red Cross that supports this bill trains them regularly.

(38:45):
The American Heart Association supports the concept of this bill,
so they do a good job. But this is all
about increasing the odds. There's no guarantee, but the odds
are if someone is able to apply CPR, able to
use an AED. And one of the things the bill
does is required that we maintain current national standards so

(39:05):
that we're using the best available science and the best
available equipment for every minute. We don't have this as law,
we don't have those increased opportunities to save lives.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Well, keep us posted. We certainly be more than happy
to do something in the weeks ahead if it would
be of any help to you on this one, because
this is something everyone should agree upon, and this is
simply putting more defensive players on the field. That's all.
This is simple as that. Bruce Tarr is always so
much appreciate you accommodating us today. We will talk soon,

(39:38):
my friend.

Speaker 7 (39:38):
Okay, thanks Dan, Always a pleasure, and the bill is
sent at four fifty six and is before the Committee
on Education. So if people want to write in, be
most appreciated. But always a pleasure to be on with you.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Dan. Thank you, Right back at you, Bruce. Okay, we're
close to the nine o'clock news. We come back. We're
going to talk about an effort to change residential zoning
laws in Medford. You hear this story
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