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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nice, Dan Ray. I'm going Mazy Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome everyone. Wow, what a day, What a day. This
has been a very interesting last two or three hours.
And we are not going to talk in the first
hour about this meeting in Alaska between President Trump and
President Vladimir Putin. We will talk about it at nine
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o'clock and I'm going to hold my remarks on it
until then because they do not want to diminish what
we have planned this hour. My name is Dan Ray.
I'm the host of night Side. It is going to
be a different show than we promoted, and I will
explain that at nine o'clock, but we are going ahead
with our eight o'clock hour. We have four very interesting
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guests on four very interesting topics. If you have been
watching the reporting from Alaska, I'll tell you that I
think it's really interesting. There were no questions taken at
that news conference, There was no specificity in terms of
a deal, and I think that this meeting did not
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result in anything that certainly President Trump was hoping for.
We're going to talk about that at nine o'clock tonight.
We're going to change our show around just a little bit,
so beer with us. What we do here is news
and talk on WBZ, and we have a big news
story dropped in the midst of our talk show and
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we will get to the news aspect of it, and
we will incorporate the talk aspect of it as well.
As I said, I'm Dan Ray Rob Brooks is back
in the control room and we have four guests this hour.
As we always do, we're going to deal with financial
literacy for teenagers. We're going to deal with a little
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understood heart issue, congenital heart disease. I'm going to tell
you about a group who's working to try to not
only raise concern about that and raise people's awareness of it,
but also to do something about it. We're going to
talk about the fact that every thirty seven seconds in
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America a car is stolen. That's kind of stunning. And
then we're going to talk about a flesh eating disease
that has showed itself up on the Cape. So, without
any further ado, we are going to introduce to you
Charles Hoff. He is a financial literary literacy counselor. Charles Hoff.
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Welcome to Nightside, How are you well?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Dan. Probably the single best technician that I've ever worked
with is no longer with our company. But his name
is Ben Hoff. No relation, I assume, no, I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
It's an uncommon name.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
But yeah, no, that's fine. But as soon as I
saw it, I said, gee, I wonder if he's related
to Ben Hooff anyway. So you are proposing for adults
to prepare the teenagers to become more financially independent. So
there's a couple of aspects of that. Obviously, you want
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teenagers to learn how to balance a checkbook, I assume,
or or they need to learn things about interest rates
and the value of a dollar and inflation and things
like that. But at the same time, teenagers don't earn
a lot of money, so they can't support themselves financially.
Tell us exactly what you're talking about when you're saying
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how to prepare teams to become more financially independent. You're
not suggesting that parents should start charging for room and board,
are you.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Well, you know what, I wouldn't have a problem with that,
to be quite frank would oh yeah, oh yeah, Well
I had to take I had to pay room and board.
I mean, I think everything were really shops funneled through
an allowance. More things should really funnel through an allowance
to teach them. But one of the greatest gifts a
parent can give them, first of all, is a debt
free parent. Secondly, teach the child to anticipate future expenses,
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you know today's budgets. I've been doing this for thirty years,
and this is what I typically see people do when
they do their own personal finances. They take their take
home pay, pay their bills or try to, and then
live on what's left. That's a sum total what they
call a budget. It doesn't work. The unexpected, they call
it is always occurring. Kyrie Parris, home improvements, home maintenance, holidays, vacations,
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those things tend to go on credit and as time passes,
that debt starts to grow. And then we've been told
to fix it by getting consolidation loan or how much
we loan? Did we fix it? All we did and
we didn't fix it. All we did was shift the debt.
So fundamentally the budget's flawed. And I worked with Murray Feldman,
the Detroit Airy, and he's told me, he says, you know,
these financial advisors talk about developing a budget, but no
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one ever really shows you actually how to do it.
And the element that's missing is the anticipation of future expenses.
Back in our grandparents' day, when there was no credit
card as a backstop, they didn't use them, and when
they did have access to it, that generation didn't even
want them. They knew they had anticipate in the future.
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They would have never been caught dead calling a KI
repair an unexpected expense. They would have said, no, you
failed to anticipate it. People call a new roof an
unexpected expense. They've been looking at the shingles curling in
the past ten years. It's not unanticipated or it's not
an unexpected expense. There's very few things that are truly unexpected.
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Most things can be anticipated. And because we've lost the
ability to do that or the art of the anticipation,
this stuff ends up on credit. Today's world a lot
less forgiving than it was decades ago. I mean financial reversals.
Today it's very difficult to recover. So these kids have
to do this in the proper way. They need to
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understand that first. The a lot of the tried, true,
tested legacy approaches to debt have been lost. I think
a lot of this has taken a dive since the
Boomer generation. Really, a lot of them are comfortable with debt.
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I see people going in their sixties the mortgages. I mean,
back in the day, people had one mortgage their whole lifetime.
They never moved around. They lived in anar squiff square
foot house, four kids, small bathroom. They made it. But
one thing they did know is they were debt adverse.
They refused to get and they wanted to, you know,
get rid of debt. Being debt free was the holy grail.
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Today people are comfortable with debt, and so a lot
of there's a lot of pressures on kids today that
were as unlike any prior generation in this regard. Also,
there's all this talk about the increasing cost of housing.
And it's true traditionally when I was growing up, I
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don't know what if you remember this or now, I'm
not sure how old you are, but in the seventies eighties,
it was always talked about like a week's pay for
a month's rent, you know, and then thirty debt income
ratio for housing and things along those lines.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Well, just to join the conversation here, I'm a boomer, Okay,
I'm a boomer okay, And I think probably one of
the greatest mistakes we as a society ever made, ever made,
was to adopt credit cards. And the reason that is,
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I grew up at a period of time before credit cards,
and so you had the money that was in your pocket.
Cash was what allowed you to you could use to
so that forced you to live within your means. And
I think that there was sort of a mind a
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generational mind shift that not only set credit cards, but
just everybody got themselves so overextended, probably more bankruptcy filings
and all of that. And in addition to that, you
have a lot of programs now which are wonderful programs,
but programs that people are learning to be comfortable and
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live with as opposed to get out from underneath the
shackles of poverty. And I think that there's a mindset
that we have adopted. I can buy it today. Here
run my plastic. You know I have. I have a
debt limit on my credit card of twenty five thousand dollars.
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You know, if I kept rolling up twenty five thousand
dollars a month, I'd be in big trouble. Even with
my credit card. I will go to a more expensive restaurant. Sure,
now it's good for the it was good for the economy,
it's good for restaurants and all that, but I think
it hurt us and we see it ultimately in the
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federal debt of now thirty seven trillion dollars, which is
about one hundred and forty percent of our GDP. I
don't know how we will ever get out from the
cumulative federal debt that we now are responsible for all
of us.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Well, the dovetail with what you just said, I mean,
even the minimum payment requirements back in the late you know,
the first credit card nineteen fifty nine diners Cluck card.
But you know the way we're used to them, late seventies,
early eighties, minimum payment requirements. We always read about, you
know what the interest rate is, it's not really about
the rate, it's the term regarding or see the impact
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the term has, or i should say the minimum payment
amount has on the term. You know, the greater the
minimum payment, the less and port and the rate. The
longer term the loan, the more significant the rate's going
to become. And so when credit cards first came out,
their minimum payments were a lot larger, which kept people
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from over committing on vehicles and houses because more was
demanded from them from their paycheck to pay down the debt. Well,
credit card companies wanted folks to just they wanted to
cash cow, so they wanted people to carry minimum payment amounts.
When you look at the charts of five percent minimum payment,
you know, two thousand dollars credit card, you know, six
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years to repay it. Drop that minimum payment to one
and a half to three percent, which is traditional today
you're talking thirty two years and that's assuming you're not
adding anything additional to the debt.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah. Again, I think people need to Probably we talked
I think we talked sort of macroeconomics here, But you
want to talk about how parents need to instill in
their kids a better understanding of death. And how can
folks get in touch with you if they want to
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get more information on that.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Well, DFU Financial dot Com. I do webinars. We have
several webinars, Fiscal Fitness webinar. How can credit we get
it dig into the you know credit score, things like that.
But it's open at the public. I work, like I said,
DFCU Financial dot Com the Education Center. You can just
you know, plug that in and sign up their the
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calendars listed. We do them on you know, veried Social Security.
I do on all that stuff as first kids. Fiscal
fitness is what I'd recommend for them, and also the
healthy credit presentation which gets into credit scores, into the algorithm,
the actual Fyco algorithm and how to raise your credit score.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
All right, So it's DFCU financial dot com correct, perfect,
ChEls Hoffe. I enjoyed it. I know some people think
it's kind of dry to talk about, but it's, uh,
it's it's a life altering experience if you can figure
it out before you're twenty, and you can and you
can stay within your limits. I've had credit cards for
a long long time. Do you know how much cumulative
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interest I have paid on my credit cards?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Probably nothing, It's.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
A round figure, you bet you. I'm the credit card
first nightmare, and I checked that credit card statement every month,
and you'd be surprised how many times I find things
that have either been overcharged or overcharged and never were requested.
Charles hof thank you very much. I appreciate your time tonight.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Well, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
You're very welcome. We'll have you back. We get back
when we talk about a tragedy that has that one
family has used to turn it into a campaign for
awareness about congenital heart disease. We'll be back with my
guests coming up who lost a daughter and a son
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in law at very early ages. We'll be back on
Nightside right after this break.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray, Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I learned an amazing statistic this week because we're going
to publicize a really interesting walk that is coming up.
It is the Boston Walk for one in one hundred,
and that name of the walk, Boston Walk for one
in one hundred, named for the one in one hundred
children and adults impacted by congenital heart disease. With me
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is Mary Kay Klein. She has a doctorate in philosophy,
and she said, don't call me doctor, because I don't
want to think that I'm medically involved. But so I
will simply call Mary Kay Klein, Mary Kay, Mary Kay,
Welcome to night Side. You and your family suffered tremendous
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disappointment when your daughter was born many years ago. Your
daughter Karen, and you were told that she had a
heart issue, heart disease, and they told you she didn't
have long to live. Tell us about it.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yes, when my daughter Karen was born, they said the
average life expectancy with her heart problem was five to
seven months, and she would not.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
She exceeded that. She went on to get a degree
from Boston College. She worked, I guess as the librarian
or a librarian at Boston College.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Sadly, not only did you lose your daughter, but you
also lost your son in law a few years later
to the same disease, a congenital heart disease. I had
no idea that one in one hundred children and adults
are impacted by this heart disease. I assume you didn't
know about it until your family was hit by.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It, right, I had no clue that was you know,
in the days when they didn't do you know, sonograms
during pregnancy and so on. So when a child was
born with heart defect, this was mid seventies, it was
very unexpected and we had never heard anything about it.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
It had to be devastating for you and your family.
You had, you've had two other you have two other children.
But but but Karen Uh and some of some of
her friends actually started this organization walk for one in
a hundred UH and that is her legacy. Uh, how
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amazing is it to you that she would become an
adult and use her adulthood to fight back against the
disease the very disease would take her life.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Well, it is pretty amazing.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
The organization's name actually is the Adult Congenital Heart Association,
And the reason that she and some friends who had
met online got together is that there were a number
of organizations for families with small children who were dealing
with congenital heart disease, but there really wasn't anything for adults.
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And at that time, there weren't that many people who
survived to adulthood if they had a serious problem with
their heart. So they formed this organization, the Adult Congenital
Heart Association. The organization's office was in our home. Was
incorporated in nineteen ninety eight, and the office was there
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until two thousand and four when it became too large
to have in a home, and the organization has just
grown and grown and grown since then. I wonder if
I could read you a brief statement about why the
organization was started.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
If it's briefed, that's great, go.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Ahead, Okay, Well, it starts out talking about the Boston
Marathon and how the winners of the Boston Marathon get
a laurel wreath on their heads, and it's a symbol
of honor and achievement. But what they said is there
are many who deserve a laurel wreath that they're unknown
to the world. They are people who are running in
their own marathon. Not a marathon that will end in
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twenty six point two miles, a marathon that will last
a lifetime. It is a marathon that is run to
stay alive. They are the people who have been born
with congenital heart disease. Every year they live is caused
for a laurel wreath. And I think that really sums
up the attitude that this group of people had. And
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you know, the organization has just grown and grown and grown.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
One of the organization at this point, it's just not
a Boston bea.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
It is right, it's not a Boston based group. And
in fact, the Walk for One in one hundred happens
in twenty twenty five. It either has happened or will
happen in twenty different cities.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Okay, I did not miss name. I want to make
sure I didn't misname the event. The event is that
twenty twenty five Boston Walk for one in one hundred campaign.
And what I want to do at this point is
tell you that when we talked this afternoon, we know
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the date, which is Saturday, September sixth, Somber six September.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
One, September sixth.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
That's right, that's right, correct, Okay, I wasn't true. I
thought I might have missed missed time to date. That's
about three weeks from tomorrow, so plenty of time for
people to get involved in this. It is held at
the Herder park Amphitheater, which anyone who knows soldiers Field
Road is right across the street from where I used
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to work at WBCTV. WBCTV was eleven seventy soldiers Field
Road and the Herder park Amphitheater is eleven seventy five
soldiers Field Road. So there's plenty of parking out there,
easy place to get to, you don't have to fight
city traffic. But if people want to participate in the walk,
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this plenty of times. So what is the website that
they can go to when we finish over the weekend
and sign up. They can get fellow walkers, they can
get pledges for their walk to help this great organization.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
The website is www dot ac h A Heart dot org.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Okay, we don't need the www. It's just ACA for
American Congenital Heart Association and then the word so A
c h A and that H G A r T
dot org. Contributions I know are going to be tax
deductible and it's for a great, great cause. How often
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has this walk been done in the Boston area. This
is not the first year you're doing.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
This ISO, No, we started it a little bit before COVID.
We have done it for a few years in different
places around Boston.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Okay, well, this is the Herder Park Amphitheater is really
well located. It's across the street from WBZ and there's
a whole bunch of parking spaces. I mean they're easy,
easy to get to by car. A little tougher, you
can still get there by M B T A, but easy,
but easy by car. I drove back and forth in
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that place for thirty one years, so I know it
very well, and it's it's such a great cause. Tell
us a little bit about your son in law who
also he took his life as well. We've talked about
Karen and everything that Karen did, and he carried on
the cause after Karen's death.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Yes, yes, his name is James McNulty. The prediction for
him was that he might make it to age three,
and he was fifty three when he died. He had
a master's degree in cell and molecular biology. He was
a research scientist. And you know, so many, like Karen.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
So many people who are dealing with medical problems, throw
their energies into those sorts of pursuits and those sorts
of studies. I'm sure there's an obviously obvious correlation there.
We talked yesterday. You did a great job. Mary Kay.
I'm sure that your daughter, Karen and your son in
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law is looking down tonight. And I thank you for
telling us about this, and I hope a lot of
my listeners will participate. September sixth, Saturday, September sixth. It's
in the morning, I assume correct, right.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
The kickoff is at ten o'clock in the morning, and
there's registration prior to that. And you know, we welcome
anybody who wants to walk, donate, come by to find
out more about Adha and.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
The website, which is the most important for my purposes.
It's a c h A heart dot org, a c
h a heart dot org. And for young people in
the audience who are looking to meet, you know, new people,
friends and thinking perhaps about having children as they get
into adulthood and contemplate relationships, this is something that you
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want to know a lot about. And hopefully no other
families are touched by this situation. But until we have
a cure, congentle heart disease will be, unfortunately a fact
of life that we as a society have to deal with.
Mary Kay, Mr Kay Klein, you did a great job tonight.
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Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
You're very welcome. When we get back, we're going to
talk with Mark Shield drop of Triple A the American
Automobile Association here in Massachusetts. Here's a statistic that kind
of caught my attention. Every thirty seven seconds in America,
someone's car is stolen or someone steals a car. You
can put it in the active of the passive voice.
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We'll be back right after this news at the bottom
of the hour went a minute or two long. Apologize
for that.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Welcome back. Amazing statistic that we came across, and that
is that every thirty seven seconds there's a car stolen
in America with US as mark drop mark. I never
would have guessed every thirty seven seconds. I might have
said a minute and a half. I don't know. That's
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a that's an amazing statistic that there were that many
stolen cars in America. Good evening, how are you.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Mark, Good and evening?
Speaker 5 (24:17):
I'm great. And that is a remarkable number. And if
you can believe it, that number comes from last year,
and that was a seventeen percent decrease in vehicle FETs
from the previous year. In fact, it was thirty three
seconds just a year earlier. So that that's numbers going
in the right direction, and you could believe that.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Well, that's it's still a horrible number. Look, what what
is the reason for the drop our cars being locked
up more? Did they have better you know, lock systems
or more cars alarm? What's going on in that regard?
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Yeah, some of that is going on. So now our
cars are like computers, So there's there's been some vehicle
models that have gotten software updates to make them more
resilient to some of the more sophisticated tools that modern
day car thieves can use to get into a car
and then steal it. There's some Kia and Hyundai models
for a few years ago, a few model years that
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didn't have engine mobilizers, so those were getting stolen in droves.
Owners of those vehicles are able to have a kind
of an upgrade made at the dealership to address that issue.
Ndais in Kia even subsidizing the cost of steering wheel
locks for some of those owners to address that problem.
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But nowadays you buy a new height to Kia on
day they have those engine mobilizers. But you know, car
parts are expensive, so a decent newer models here vehicle,
especially a popular model like a tyleta raft or on
the Civic or a Ford F one fifty. You know,
if deck car can get stolen and chopped into pieces,
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there's a lot of money that you made in parts,
because if you've had to get a repair in your vehicle,
you can attest to the fact to how much more
expensive it is.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
So is this the fact that it's still won every
thirty seven seconds, even though that's a slight improvement from
the year before, that's still a big number. So are
we talking and maybe we don't know this question, but
is there an uptick or is there a substantial number?
I know that there was a point with where there
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were groups that were stealing catalytic converters because those were
drawing a lot of money on the aftermarket. So is
this organized crime? Is it groups that are focused on
this or is this just kids, you know, teenagers who
are looking to go for a joy ride, because that
has to be part of the number as well.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I assume, oh for sure.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
And we see more vehicle theft stolen in the summer,
you know, and you can think schools non session this summer,
so that is a factor. The catalytic converter thefts have
diminished a little bit. There was some major organized crime
rings that got busted, one in particular in our region
with the kind of headquarters out of New Jersey, pretty
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high profile one. Also, some of the precious metal commodity
prices have gone down a little bit from their peaks,
so they're a little less valuable for scrap. And with
all the extra scrutiny and some of those big bus
you know, the scrap you know, second, you know, scrap
industry has kind of been a little more cautious about that,
and some states even have passed laws to track them
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a little better, like ven numbers for catalytic converters. So
that's that's been a little bit of an improvement. But
you know, still eight hundred and fifty thousand cars were
stolen last year. There are organized crime rings that target,
believe it or not, like Ferraris Lamborghinis, those really high
te vehicles because they get shipped to Africa and in
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the Middle East and get sold, you know, for for
big bucks over there.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Cars like that gets shipped. I mean, I steal someone's
Lamborghini and I drive it down to the port, and
I say, with your guys mind, putting this on has
to be much much more highly organized than that.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Yeah, that's highly organized, and we don't your average person
doesn't have to worry about that, you know, unless you're
driving a Lamborghini.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah. I've never you know, I got something I've never
crossed my mind. You know, I'm going to buy a Lamborghini.
Every once in a while, I think, well, you know,
maybe I might go to a Patriots game this year,
but never buy a Lamborghini, even though the Patriots pets
can be pretty expensive. Uh, this is frustrating. I remember
living in Boston back in the many years ago, and
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one I was working nights in TV, and it's true story, Mark,
I heard some strange noises. It was summer, summertime, and
one of my my bedroom window was open and I
heard like a clicking noise. And I lived on the
fifth floor and I looked down and there was some jerk,
i'm gonna say, knucklehead like Tom Andino, literally breaking into
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my car. I swort of gone. If I had had
like a plant on the windowsill, I would have conked
the guy. And of course I screamed at him. He
and that interrupted him. Although he hit He did break
the lock on my car to get in. He was
must have been using a screwdriver or something. And then
his buddy parked parked nearby. He jumped in his car
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and took off. But uh, I just kind of imagine
what it must feel like to have your car stole them,
Because just to have my car someone attempted to steal it,
you really felt that, you know, this is this is
a pretty personal crime that someone decides to take the
car that you have bought and paid for and they're
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going to take it from you. I I'd almost like
to have the police put out some exploding cars as
some some fake Lamborghinis. But but when they you know,
it would explode. I mean, you know, because the world,
well get around to the car thieves that this is
not this is not a good activity to pursue. But
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I'm staring, Yeah, it's telling a little in cheek there,
but wouldn't it be?
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Yes, now, I hear you, and you know, for the
twenty or so folks and rent them just a few
days ago that got their cars rummaged through. You know,
that's a real violating ceiling to have, you know, your
glove box empted on the seat and all that stuff
that happens. And and some of those some of those victims,
you know, they have two cars. They're both unlocked. They
had the key to the other vehicle and one of
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the vehicles, so not only do they steal stuff out
of the first car, they got the keys and we're
able to steal the other car. And that's a crime
of opportunity. And it looks like, you know, some some
younger gentlemen in a vehicle going slowly down the street
and a few of them hop out and they're checking
door handles and going in and getting what they can
and they hit the neighborhood real quick and then they're
out of there. Yeah, so you can protect yourself by
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just making sure to lock your car every single night
and leave those valuables out if you're laying in bed.
And so then you think, I don't know if I
locked my car. Did I leave my work bag in
the back seat?
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Absolutely absolutely, your computer. I locked my car when it's
in the garage. I take no chances. Mark is always
great work at Triple A. I'll say this to you
as I think I said to you once before. You
guys gotta get all of us automobile drivers involved in
in limiting the amount of bike lanes that they're putting
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in in Boston. They're everywhere, Mark, They're everywhere. I gotta
get you guys in Yeah. I'm serious when I say that.
I mean it's there's a war on automobiles going on here.
With the bike with you, they'll pretty soon there'll be
a car lane for car one one car lane, and
everything else will be bikes. You watch what happens. Thanks Mark,
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appreciate your time as always. Thanks again. We lost them there. Okay,
coming up, on the other side the break, I'm gonna
tell you about a flesh eating disease Vibrio vote neficus.
It means causing wounds in Latin. I had to look
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it up, but that's what it means. So we'll be
talking with dtor Zoe Weiss right after the break of Nightside.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Well, if if we don't have enough to worry about,
we have something else we can worry about. Here there's
bacteria that can cause a rare flesh eating disease that
has infected a swimmer at a Cape Cod beach. With
us is doctor Zoe Weiss's. He's an infectious disease physician,
director of Clinical microbiology at Tough Medical Center. First off,
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doctor Weiss, Welcome to Nightside. How are you tonight? I'm good.
I'm doing great. And how rare is this disease?
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Where is it?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
How? No, not where? How how rare rare it is?
Speaker 6 (33:00):
It is pretty rare. I mean in this area of
the country, less than one to three cases per year.
If you go to Florida they would see maybe a
few hundred cases per year.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Actually, okay, is that because of the temperatures of the
temperature of the water or the number of people, yeah
in the water.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
Yeah, maybe a little both, but now it's mostly the
warmer coastal waters that have this organism. It's called Vibrio vonnificus.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Easy for you to say, doctor, Vibrio vonifificus.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
Bific My husband says it sounds like a Harry Potter spell.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I looked up. I looked up the
Latin translation, because although I'm a Latin scholar, I did
not know that off the top of my head. It
means causing wounds. This is this actually takes it takes
advantage of wounds as I am.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Yes, yeah, yeah, people who go into the water with
open wounds, even like a hangnail scratch or any kind
of open wound, especially if they go into water that's
like estuaries or areas where it's a little bit of
fresh water mixed with salt water. The slightly lower saline
amount or salt amount in the in those kinds of
waters are the highest risk, and if that kind of
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bacteria gets into the skin, it can lead to a
pretty nasty infection. But only the most common kind of
patient that presents with this type of syndrome. Is someone
who's imm compromised, meaning they have like underlying liver disease
or cancer. So it's not you know, a generally healthy
person usually.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
So when does the disease impact someone? Is this an
irritant or is this something that really can cause some
serious medical complications if untreated?
Speaker 6 (34:51):
It's it's a serious condition. I mean one in four
to one in five people would die.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Usually.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
I suppose somebody could could have a small and and
we wouldn't notice it. And we probably don't know how
often that happens because those people aren't getting tested. But
for the patients who come to the hospital and we
discover this, they usually have have to have you know,
the limbs amputated to stop the spread of the bacteria.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
God. So, so how does what is the disease? How
does it first evidence itself? I mean, obviously, if if
your your arm is hanging off, it's a little what
can people look for that would just be something different.
You go to the beach, or you go to a
lake or somewhere and this does it take a day
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or two to you express itself or is it something
that you'll see that that night.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
It would be pretty quickly within usually within twenty four hours,
twelve to twenty four hours, and you would have like
pain and swelling and redness usually around that area of
the open wound, and it would spread rapidly. I mean,
if you're seeing a wound that a redness that's spreading faster,
you know you're seeing it get larger and larger within
an hour, within a few hours, you need to go
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straight to the hospital.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Okay, that's that is good. How long has this been around?
Is this something? Is this a new condition or new
disease or is this something that we have been aware
of for some time? But now with the communications that
we have now, it might not have made the nightly
newscast back in the sixth It could be we could
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talk about it here on night Side and make people
aware of the possibility.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
I mean, it's probably existed for millions of years, certainly
before humans have been around. It's actually part of the
normal water if you ever, when you test coastal waters,
there's a small amount of vibrio that's allowed to kind
of be in there before it's considered a risk for humans.
It's mostly associated with places that harvest oysters because there's
like a hundred times higher amount of vibrio in oysters
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and shellfish than in just in the coastal waters, and
so those kinds of places do some monitoring before they
can sell oysters, for example. But it's naturally part of
the water, and I think part of it is with
increasing temperatures and rising sea temperatures. We do see that
areas like Florida, where it's more common. Now we're seeing
it in areas where in the New England maybe where
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it was used to be less common because we have
generally colder coastal water.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Every once in a while you hear that there's red
tide and that they're closing a beach or whatever. Did
they ever close a beach or a body of water
for this? I never ever remember hearing that.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
In Florida, and in places where it's hot common they will,
and the most common time, it's not actually regularly tested
for in most places, again because it is kind of
part of the normal water, and the amountain the water
can vary just depending on the salt concentration in the
heat that day. So even if you took one sample
it might not be representative. But if you're in an
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area that harvests oysters and they do tests for it,
then they might shut down an entire oyster farm until
it's resolved.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Wow, doctor, I appreciate the warning. Is there somewhere that
people can actually go to a website where they can
get more information on this easily accessible?
Speaker 6 (38:17):
I would guess the CDC probably has a mention of this.
I would check there first.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Perfect, Doctor Zoe Weiss, thank you so much, an infectious
disease physician, director of Clinical micro mob Biology at Tofts
Medical Center. Thanks very much for your time tonight on
a Friday. And then I hope you have a great weekend.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
Thanks bye.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
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I'm Ail Griffith and here's what's happening. While the much
anticipated presidential summit in Anchorage, Alaska ends today with no deals,
no agreements reached. President's Trump and Putin side by side
at a news conference following about two and a half
hours of a face to face today, President Trump saying
at the news conference that while they made some good
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progress in their talks and it was extremely productive, he
said there's no deal until there is a deal. President
Putin two, alluding to more talks are needed before any
agreements are reached, Trump saying he'll be making some phone
calls to NATO and President Zelenski to talk about what
was discussed at the summit. Now there was no talk
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of any ceasefire agreement, which President Trump had been saying
leading up to the summit that he wanted to accomplish.
President Putin, at the end of his remarks inviting President
Trump to Moscow for further talks than the two winds
of the press conference without taking any questions, President Trump
saying to President Putin that he'll probably be seeing him soon.
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The NC double A today announcing tens of millions of
dollars in fines against the University of Michigan and suspended
football coach Sharon Moore for three games for sign stealing.
NC double A says over three seasons Michigan's football program,
former staff member Connor Stallions coordinated a group nicknamed the
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