August 7, 2025 • 38 mins
We kicked off the program with three news stories and different guests on the stories we think you need to know about!
Wildfires are raging in Canada. They’re worsening air quality in New England.
Guest: Sucharita Kher - Pulmonologist at Tufts Medical Center
An Act Relative to Transportation Safety in MA
Guest: Sen. Nick Collins
Never Forget Another Name! It can be awkward when you see someone you recognize, and who clearly knows you, but you just can't remember their name… what mental tricks will help their name stick, so you don't embarrass yourself later!
Guest: Dr. Ivan Misner - Ph.D. in Organizational Behavior known globally as the "Father of Modern Networking" and a NYT bestselling author of over 25 books.
Wildfires are raging in Canada. They’re worsening air quality in New England.
Guest: Sucharita Kher - Pulmonologist at Tufts Medical Center
An Act Relative to Transportation Safety in MA
Guest: Sen. Nick Collins
Never Forget Another Name! It can be awkward when you see someone you recognize, and who clearly knows you, but you just can't remember their name… what mental tricks will help their name stick, so you don't embarrass yourself later!
Guest: Dr. Ivan Misner - Ph.D. in Organizational Behavior known globally as the "Father of Modern Networking" and a NYT bestselling author of over 25 books.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nice, Eye, Dan ray I'm telling you easy Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Oh we have but Goobin lined up. That is for
sure a good evening. Everybody. Welcome on into this Thursday
night edition of Nightside Beautiful Day to Day here in
New England. I hope it was as nice in your
part of the world. My name is Dan Rayam. The
host of the show. Rob Brooks is back in the
control room at Broadcast Central. He pretty much runs the show.
I just kind of come along for the ride actually,
and of course the show is the guests and the
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callers the most important elements of this show. We will
be talking at nine o'clock with the Israeli Console General
Console General Benny SHARONI. There is lots going on in
the Middle East. It now appears pretty clear that with
a vote from the Security Council of Israel the Cabinet
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of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyaho, that there will be an
effort by the Israeli military to basically take control at
least on an interim basis of Gaza. So we'll talk
with that about that's early and what we can expect
with the Consul General, and then later on tonight we're
going to sort of keep it on an international basis theme.
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We've hit a lot of local stories lately. At this point,
it would appear, and I can only say it woud
appear that Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin may meet at
some point next week. And I think the suggestions are
somewhere in the Middle East, like in the United Arab
Emirates or somewhere like that. We will have to see
how that goes along. And then the questions I'm going
to have for you are are you confident that in
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this sort of a head to head summit meeting Donald Trump,
President Truble hold his own? What do you think he
wants to get out of it? And even more importantly,
what do you think Vladimir Putin wants to get out
of it? So we've got lots to talk about tonight,
and hopefully those of you who are interested in foreign
policy and questions of war and peace will participate. We
do know that all of us here well, in the
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eastern half of the US, at least in the upper
eastern half of the US, the United States, For the
last few days, to a greater or a lesser extent,
we have been we have been impacted by smoke, smoke
primarily from Canadian wildfires, but some of that smoke has
actually been coming in from other other events. Uh. And
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actually US wildfires, And with us is sus Sharita Kerr,
who is an expert. She's a pulmonologist at Tufts Medical Center. Uh.
I'm assuming it's doctor, although it doesn't say doctor here,
So I'm going to welcome doctor Kerr. And I hope
I pronounce your last name correctly, Doctor Kerr.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
A Hi Dan, Yes, it's doctor Sucherita Care. And I'm
actually from tough Medical Center.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yes, absolutely, I wanted to do that properly. And so
there's some pretty nasty air quality. I think Canada has
wildfires every year, as the US has wildfires every year.
They especially problematic this year.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I think your last couple of years have been challenging,
particularly in the summertime. As you've seen this week, the
air quality in the Boston area certainly has suffered because
of a lot of migration of the smoke from the
wildfire down south. So yeah, I think these fires have
become more prominent and more common.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Did you say, And there's nothing that the Canadian government
realistically can do about this that there's a lot of
forests in Canada. Anyone who has looked at the topography
of Canada knows. I think it's only about thirty million
people in an area that is as large, if not larger,
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than the United States, which has ten times that population.
So they have many, many more forested areas that can burn.
There's nothing that Canada can do about this, and they're
not allowing it to happen. But it's just I guess
it's part of the natural process, you know, trees burn
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or is there anything that could be done? Do you think? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I think what we've learned is it's really global warming
that's probably increasing the temperatures around making it for us
really dry and dropt that then m trigger a fire.
And so you know, overall, whether it's Canada or elsewhere,
you know, we're all on the same earth. And I
think global warming is at least something to do with
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the frequency and the extent of wildfires.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
So I had the fires in the last two or
three years been larger or are we just paying more
attention to it? Is there a pattern fires of this
magnitude we've never seen previously.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yes, I'm not an expert at the fires at least
from what I can read. Definitely think the fires are larger,
a wider area, covering wider areas, and more frequent. And
plus I think it's a little bit of both. You're
also more aware of what there's media out there talking
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about the air quality of the air we breathe in
particle pollution and things like that. It's probably a combination
of both.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
So who amongst your patients are you most worried about?
Is it older folks? Is it folks who have a
pre existing condition, and what can they do when the
fires seem to create more smoke as they have in
the last few weeks.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yes, And so I'm a lung doctor, so all of
my patients have pre existing lung conditions. And so both
older people as well as people with pre existing lung
conditions such as those with asthma, copt or other lung conditions,
are particularly vulnerable from the exposure to particular matter and
air pollutions such as that can happen in the setting
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of avars fire, even one hundreds of miles away. And
what I often tell them is to really be aware
of the air quality in dex So that did they
know that the air quality is poor outside that might
not be a day to go out for a long
walk or do strenuous activity that can then have them
breathe deeper because then that allows the air particles to
go really deep into the lungs and then really being prepared. Right, so,
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if they have as NORCOPD, making sure that they have
their action plan, make sure that they have their inhaler handy,
should their breathing get worse as a result of the exposure,
then they can act quickly and use their inhaler and
get them necessary medical treatment.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Now is it a short term inconvenience or is this
something that on the short term for certain patients can
be up to an including life.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Right, Yeah, So there's a lot of literature that long
term exposure to air pollution can impact long functions. So
the thing actually got that decline and low function. We
are beginning to learn though, a lot of impact of
these intermittent, short term exposures to for example, wildfire smoke
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over a period of weeks and weeks or days a weeks.
But I can imagine that at least some early data
shows that definitely in the short term, these people that
think disting condition can have increased risk of going to
the emergency department, for example, because of increasing ASTHMASIOPD symptoms.
And I'm also aware of data that people with heart
disease can have increased risk of stroke or heart attacks
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during these times of increased air pollution.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
This is this is a real dilemma. Now, at some
point these fires will diminish, but probably they'll they'll come
back at us again. If past years are any guidance,
how long do you think, uh this these conditions are
going to continue. Are we talking about a couple of
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weeks or a couple of months?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I think you know, at least a part of the globe,
summers are getting longer, springtime starts early because of the
warming of the earth, and so I think we can
expect at least some of this impact of smoke and
the wildfires will last. But again, like we talked about
earlier in this discussion, it sounds like, you know, they're
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almost here every year for the last few years since
if time will tell, who knows it might be the same.
Unless there is a sort of universal way to tackle
global warming and how we can all work together to
resolve that.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It's hard. The international cooperation on that, it's obviously quite problematic.
There's a lot of countries around the world who are
not as advanced as the US, and they're pumping pollutants
into the atmosphere just as well as we are, maybe
even more pollutants. So my last question is, if you're
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a patient right now and you're not fortunate enough to
live in an air conditioned department, you the next week
is going to be really warm, So, yeah, you're in
this terrible spot. On the one hand, you probably are
trying to keep your windows closed to keep bad air out.
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At the same time, the temperatures next week are going
to be in there in the nineties. Any advice generally
that you can give folks who you know who don't
have the benefit of air conditioning.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, I know, that's that's such a dilemma, right. What
I often tell is uh is uh, you I think
if they're able to thinking about getting an air purifire,
particularly with HEPA filters, can help really remove them of
these pm uh two point five particle pollutants out. But
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it's rastltely right, It's really a hard dilemma. And you know,
a hot mida it can also bother people with asthma
and COOPD. So it's sort of you between a rock
and a hard place.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Well, I think we've all learned a lot from our
conversation with you. My guest doctor Sharita Kerr, a pulmonologist
a tough medical center. Is there any website that you
might like to refer people to, generally who could get
more information even beyond what we've talked about. Sometimes there
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might be a website or or an easily accessible information location.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Absolutely, the American Association actually has some phenomenal resources for
the lead public. They also have it in various languages,
and so it's a great place to start.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
That's a great suggestion, Doctor Kurt, thank you very very much.
I do appreciate your time and appreciate your work. Thank
you so much.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Thank you, Dan, my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
You're welcome when we get back, when we talk with
Massachusetts State Senator Nick Collins about a piece of legislation
that is timely that he has filed relative to transportation
safety in Massachusetts. There were two really nasty accidents yesterday
in Boston, one just outside of Copley Square or maybe
depending on how you define Copley Square in Copley Square,
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and then another over on sever Street in Roxbury, and
there was serious injuries in both. This transportation safety legislation
that Senator Nick Collins has filed is pending on Beacon Hill,
and we're going to try to get some of you
interested in this when we talk with Senator Nick Collins
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on the other side of this break on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It's Night Side with Dan.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Ray on w Massachusetts State Senator Nick Collins, as far
as I'm concerned, one of the best state senators that
the Commonwealth has. Nick. Welcome to Welcome back.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
How are you, sir, Good evening, jan Thank you for
having me, Thanks for your kind word.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah. Well, you know, I went to college with your dad,
who served in the legislature as well, So I will
admit to being a little biased, but I think it's
actually a pretty objective judgment because I think that you
do great work up there, and you are now looking
at a transportation safety bill and act. Relative to transportation safety,
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I'm sure Senator that you know that there were two
really ugly incidents yesterday involving a mope head that I
believe was impacted. I'm not sure who caused it over
on sever Street in Roxbury. And then there was another
incident just outside of Copley Square. I'm still trying to
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find out what the physical conditions are. I believe that
there was serious injuries to both of these drivers. Whatever
they were driving smaller, smaller vehicles. I hope that both survived.
You've not heard of anything to the contrary.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
I hope, well, unless I heard they both had life
threatening injuries, both the driver of the schooner that collided
with automobile and the pedestrian who was in a crosswalk
was run over by an e bike in Copley Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, So so what would your legislation, legislative proposed to
do that might make the streets seafer? Safer? I hear
lots of complaints about people who say that there are
e bikes in mopeds on sidewalks in Boston, and that
h that. I believe that the suggestion on the e
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bike outside of Copley Square was that it might have
been a delivery of food delivery vehicles. So, you know,
the whole transportation system here in Boston, it's like the
wild wild West. What can you do to bring it
onto control?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Well, that's absolutely right. It is chaotic, to say the least,
and there's no really proper planning, and what my legislation
would do as hearing from constituents about this for years,
and it's escalated to a point where it is dangerous
and could be deadly. What we have right now is
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a situation where there's a mentality that bike lanes must
be everywhere, and that's what some of the transportation officials
have been executing, which clearly doesn't make any sense. Most
of the time they're empty, and then they automatically instantly
turn into the autobahn for electric bikes that often are
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traveling faster than the speed limit in the city, which
is twenty five miles per hour. And we'll wait to
see what happens with this report, but it's likely that
that was an e byte going faster than the speed limit.
So the legislation would do to reel in the wild
Wild West would be three major things. One, it would
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jack up the fines, which are right now so small
it's basically costs to a lunch to pay a fine
for your first defense, and we would jack that up
to two fifty second offense, five hundred and third defense
one thousand. And that's to really dissuade people who are
maneuvering in and out of leisure sometimes commerce for these
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delivery vehicles or you know, some other sort of courier
service that you know, really has no regulation, and so
it would require also that if they're using their vehicle
or e bike or scooter for a commercial purposes, they
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need to have commercial insurance which will limit the recklessness
and at least to the other side, if there is
an action, is sure that the victim gets at least
civil restitution. But on the planning side, which I think
is important here because there's an enforcement piece to this
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and a regulations piece to this, but it's also how
we're setting up these mini auto bonds, and what that
process is right now is no process. So this legislation
would require a public hearing be held by any municipal
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agency or state agency that is looking to put out
onto the streets a designated bike lane and require that
it meets eighty a American with Disabilities Act standards. None
of them do. Case in point, last year, a resident
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of the South End who's visually impaired blind legally was
run over by any bike in the South End on
Dartmouth Street. A few ble are closer to the South
end at Summon Street, and this has been to come
such an issue in municipalities that have leapt to try
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to accommodate this notion that if we build bike lanes,
all of a sudden environmental impacts are going to cease,
when clearly people don't all just hop in a bike
bicycle in February to get around the city of Boston.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
So we're not Copenhagen where bikes dominate. The other thing
is I think that the bikes should have some insurance
as well, the regular bikes, because someone can be injured
by a regular bicycle, by by an e bike, by
a blue Bike's.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
No, that's a great point because the blue bikes and
some of these bikes as well that are on personally
are very very heavy. So if you're going to get
hit with one of these, it's like getting hit by
a can feel at that speed like you get hit
by a car. There's also evidence that this is not
just an issue that is playing in Boston. Some of
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these other municipalities across the country, who are you know,
leaping to be the first to have the most bike lanes,
like Washington, d C. There's a major lawsuit going on
in d C. Right now led by the Washington d C.
Center for Independent Living, and a number of residents that
are members who are mobilely impaired and now you know,
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can't get in and around the city the way they
used to and have have been injured by e BYT
scooters going the wrong way. In addition, it's obviously harming
small businesses because it prevents a lot of people who
otherwise would have made their way if there's this ada
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compliance to their businesses. So there's a lot of collateral damage.
The first and foremost is safety and people just don't
feel safe. You already have you know, issues with enforcement,
and then you're adding these areas where there's no enforcement
at all. So the police are challenges.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Y Senator. As you know, the police are understaffed in Boston,
most of police patrolman's associations. I think they're down at
least a thousand from where they should be. That's not
what they're looking at for that they're trying to deal
with crime, and the city has gone way overboard. And
the reason is there's a there's a very effective lobbying
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group on behalf of bikes, uh, and they basically get
whatever they want. And I think eventually we're going to
see bike lanes going through people's apartments and their living rooms,
if if they would have their way. It's it's really tough.
And there have been people in other cities who have
been killed by bicycles. And I hope that neither of
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these folks who were injured yesterday, you know, lose their lives.
And I know that they're in serious condition, but let's
hope that they pull through. Nick, please keep us, Senator Collins,
keep us abreast of this. I'd love to have you
come on somenight and do a longer version and take
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some phone calls from residents of Boston in other areas,
and take the temperature of the public and see if
they have got to the point where they believe, like
you and I think, and I know like I do,
that something something needs to be done from a regulatory basis.
So thanks for following this legislation, and I hope that
eventually it's passed, and I hope that it saves some lives.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Thank you, Dan. Having on again.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
We will talk soon. We'll look forward and we'll get
some phone calls from listeners. Nick Collins, Senator Nick Collins,
who represents much of the City of Boston, and it's
a very effective legislator and a very effective representative of
his constituents. It is a couple of minutes later, so
instead of telling you about the new iHeartRadio app talk
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back feature, we'll get to in a moment. On the
other side, we're going to talk about the long term
contract that the Red Sox have negotiated with Roman and Anthony.
We have Chad Finn from the Boston Globe coming on
Little Sports Talk on the other side, and then later
on tonight we're going to talk with a couple an
expert at eight forty five as to how you can
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learn some tricks to recall other people's names. We'll explain
both of those, and then we will be talking with
at nine o'clock or nine oh five after the nine
o'clock news with the Consul General Israeli Consule General to
New England, Benny Charoni, about what is going on and
it's about to go on in Gaza as Israel forces
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move in to essentially end this war that could have
been ended a long time ago if Amas was not
intent on sacrificing themselves and Palestinians. Back on night side,
right after the break.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
All right, all of us have been in this situation
where you meet someone out of context. Maybe it's an
old high school teacher, maybe it's an old friend from college.
I don't know, but you you're at the supermarket and
just you know, you know the person, but you can't
pick their name out of your out of your file
cabinet up upstairs in Ukrainium with us as doctor Ivan.
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I hope I'm pronouncing this correctly. Is it Misner or Meisner? Meisner? Okay?
He has a PhD in organizational behavior, known globally as
the father of modern networking and a New York Times
Best New York Times best selling author of over twenty
five books. And you basically have ways in which people
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can do better, I guess at remembering people's names. It's
something that sometimes frustrates me, because you see someone, you
know who they are, but to be able to pull
that name out of the back of your brain. Sometimes
it's one of those Hey, how are you what can
we do to improve on that? That situation?
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Well, well let's let's come to the you know, you
meet somebody you can't remember their name in a moment.
But in general, what you want to do if you
want to stop name shaming, that is, you know, saying
I'm really bad at remembering names. You got to stop that.
We can all be better at remembering names, and it
doesn't come natural to me. I have to use techniques
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to remember someone's name. One of them is repetition. So
when you meet someone, it's like, hey, Dan, it's really
nice to meet you. You know, tell me about what
you do and what do you like most about that?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Dan?
Speaker 5 (23:40):
So you repeat somebody's name over and over again. Now,
some people are really good at what I would call
association amusement park. You know, they're they're good at taking
somebody's name and applying it to something that you know,
the individual looks like or the name sounds like. I'm
not good at that, but if you're good at that,
that's fine. A visual anchor is another way to help
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remember people's names. You know, this person looks like somebody
else I know, or they have glasses like somebody else
I know, and that visual anchor then helps you in remembering.
They might be a business card, maybe they have an
unusual business card. You anchor, you know their name with
the card that you got. So there's a few suggestions.
I'm happy to give you more.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Sure. A long time ago, when I first started out
in the radio business, and I had a little side
work in television for thirty one years with the CBS
affiliate in Boston, and now I'm back in radio, sort
of coming full circle. There was a great basketball player's
name is Jerry Lucas played for the Cincinnati Royals in
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the era of Oscar Robertson, been in Ohio State, a
bluck eye, great basketball player, and after he retired from
the NBA, he wrote a book called The Memory Book,
and he had some sort of a memory, an acuity
where he could walk into a room with one hundred people,
introduced to one hundred people, and walk out of the
room and come back in five minutes later and remember
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all of their names. Now, he would do that because
he said he could, I could identify something about them,
and somehow, I think the first example you were you
were suggesting that almost is he must have had a
photographic memory or something that was a special skills. If
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you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
He has a special skill. And God bless some people
like that. Good for them. But however, how many times
you need to walk back into a room with one
hundred people and remember everybody's name?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
No, no, absolutely, more.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Often than not you're actually talking to somebody, in thirty
seconds into the conversation, you've already forgotten their name.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, that that can happen. So for me, it's content
a lot. If if I know you and I meet
you in a different context at the airport, you might
be a neighbor, but it's who I don't you know.
It's not like your best friend, don't get me wrong,
but someone who you should know, they've lived down the
street for a few years, and you happen to be
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standing in line. I've done this. I remember being in
line where I did remember people's names. That Disney World.
You turn around and you're in Disney World and you
realize that there's someone three people away from you who
lives two streets from you at back in Massachusetts. Context
Is that an excuse that I'm using for my inability
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to remember names?
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Now I've got to listen. Context is important. It helps.
It's one of the reasons why I recommend to people
don't say it. Never say it's nice to meet you.
If you can, if you can help it, don't stay
it's nice to meet you, because I can't tell you
how many times people said, well, well we've met before.
Oh you know, give me some context. When did we
meet one of us? Five years ago? You did a
presentation for about a thousand people. I came up and
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I said, jeez, man, seriously, you want me to remember
a name. I don't say that, but that's what I say.
So I generally say nice to see you because people say, yeah,
it's good to see you again. We met at you
know event you did five years ago. I was like, okay,
he just gave me context.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Will I will tell you this? Uh, doctor Meisner, that's okay.
I been okay, thank you. I appreciate that. But I
worked in television for many years, thirty one years, and
I was a reporter, investigative reporter for WBZ here in Boston,
and I would have people come up to me at
a Red Sox game. But I was there on a
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Saturday or Sunday, and they would the title up to
me and they'd say, hi, Dan, do you remember me?
And whenever they said that question, it was panic, And
of course I would hope that somehow I could. But
in many cases I would just be honest. I'd say,
I gotta be honest with you. I'm stumped. Where did
we meet? And they will say, all about twenty five
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years ago you were doing a story at the Dedham
Massachusetts Sewer Committed and you interviewed me after the meeting,
and I wanted to say, I interviewed ten thousand people.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
You don't get it. So there's two pieces of that
that I think are important. One is, if you're the
person walking up to someone, never ever ever say do
you remember me? Because you're putting them on the spot. Instead,
what you want to do is say it's great to
see you again, and then give them context. We met
twenty years ago, you did an interview. I was on
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such and such a topic. Yeah, now you've got an idea.
So from one perspective, never ever say do you remember me?
That's just a bad idea. And then if somebody does say, hey,
do you remember me, I now say give me some context?
You know still that I so, I can, you know,
rattle my brain to recall our connection, and then oftentimes
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they'll give me technicle. Yeah, of course I remember. Thank
you so much for giving me the context. Nobody ever
gets upset with that. No, I'm sorry, I don't remember you.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
One of the things that I do. Because I was
on worked in television, now worked in radio for eighteen years.
I'm fairly well known in the in the Boston and
the New England area, Okay, But when I bump into
somebody who I think might know me, you know, for example,
if I run into a member of Congress or a
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governor who have interviewed or whatever, I never hesitate to
say Governor Dan Ray from WBZ in Boston. We met
about six months ago at such and such, and I
found that that was a way that a lot of
people appreciate that as opposed to playing the role of saying, well,
he's got to remember me, hey, governor, you know, and
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putting them on the spot.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
So you're using the right technique, you know. I had
an opportunity to meet and spend some time with Richard
Branson at his island several times in Necker Island, and
he was kind enough to give me his email address,
and when I when I don't use it very often,
but when I do, I always reach out to him.
Stand up photograph of the two of us together and say,
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Richard is really good to chat with you again. We
met on Necker on such and such a date. Here's
a photo. And what's funny is he always replies and says,
oh yeah, I mean, of course I remember you. Who
knows if he does. But I gave him so much
context it made it easy. And that's what you're talking
about is exactly the way you should behave with people.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I can tell you one quick story about Bill Clinton.
I interviewed Clinton many times, so same age, kind of
came of age as he did as a as a
governor and then obviously as a as a presidential candidate.
And I about two years after he left office, we
were down in some congressional hearings in Washington and coming
back to Boston the next day. I was in line
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at one of the donut places or whatever, and all
of a sudden, as I turned around with my coffee
and my donut, here's here's Bill Clinton. Secret Service agents. There,
a couple of Secret Service agents who I knew, said hey, Dan,
what are you doing? So they were very relaxed. And
I had interviewed Clinton probably twenty times in my career.
And I looked at me said mister President, I'm not
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sure if you remember me, Dan Ray from WVZ in Boston. Uh.
And he lit up as he always did, very personal guy. Hey,
how you doing all that? You know? We uh we
we had an interesting little walk along the back to
back towards the gates and uh, and exchange some pleasantries.
And that's take the pressure off the other person. It's
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really that.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Don't test people on their memory because it's completely you know,
I met somebody at a grocery store like a year
ago and she said, you remember me, and I'm like, okay,
hang on, and you know we're in a grocery store
and I said, give me some context and she said, well,
you know I was at your house about six months
ago for a fundraise and I'm like, yes, I remember.
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Thank you so much for that context. So don't test people.
Be nice and you know, give them a little bit
of help, just like you're describing.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Absolutely and I appreciate it. What is your latest book
that people could perhaps find on Amazon and and maybe
help themselves by helping us?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Yeah, my latest book, Yeah, yeah. My latest book is
called The Third Paradigm, The Third Paradigm, and it's about
co creation. The first paradigm is about competition, the secondest
cooperation and the thirdest co creation. It's available in bookstores
and online. And I've got a website Ivandmeisner dot com.
And of course I'm the founder of bn I, which
has eleven thousand groups all around the world.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Sounds great. I'd love to have you back. I enjoyed
the conversation immensely. I really did. And I will remember you.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Thank you, Dan, I'll remember you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Ivan Meister, thank you so much. We'll be back right
after this quick break. I will remind you that you
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Speaker 1 (33:45):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
As occasionally happens here on Nightside, one of our four
eight pm guests for some reason gets called away, maybe
leaves their set phone under a pillow with it on mute. Anyway,
we expected to have one of the Boston Globe writers,
(34:12):
Chad Finn, on to talk about Roman Anthony. Now, what's
most important about Roman Anthony is he just signed a
big deal with the with the Red Sox, eight year,
one hundred and thirty million dollar contract and in baseball,
those contracts are guaranteed. I think it's a great signing
for the Red Sox. I know that a lot of
you are baseball fans out there, and this young guy,
he's only twenty one years of age, and to be
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twenty one years of age and look at one hundred
and thirty million dollars guaranteed to play a game you love.
Talk about a golden opportunity. And we wish Roman Anthony, Well,
maybe we'll get Roman to come on some night and
tell us about himself. He really has comported himself well
and has looked great as a player. Had a little
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bit of a slow start, but he's brought the batting
average up, and I think when you look at him,
if you know anything about baseball, you realize this is
a guy that's, you know, here to stay. And sure
that contract is insured, as most major league baseball contracts are,
in case he were to suffer some you know, career
threatening injury. But I think he's on a glide path
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to a long major league career. Reminds me a little
bit of the time that Tony Kinney Glaio showed up
in Boston as a young guy out of Lynn in Swampsktte,
Massachusetts and set the world on fire. And of course,
in those days, free agent contracts or big time contracts
really never existed until you had the battles that Kurt
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Flood and others Andy Mesterschmidt waged in order to get
free agency. In those days, baseball players were every contract
they signed there was an option of the next year.
So the good players always had that option and they
would get a little bit of extra money. But to
think back in those days, the Ted Williams is and
they mantles of the world, most of them topped out
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at one hundred or one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars,
a lot of money for the day, but certainly in
compared to the money that the players are getting today,
players who are not even close to Mickey Mantle or
to Ted Williams, particularly from the perspective of a career.
So congratulations to the Red Sox. They have adopted this strategy,
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which is to sign up their good young players to
long term contracts and hold them under contract and reward them,
and the players take a little bit of a break,
of a little bit of a gamble. But I think
the agents are advising them well to take the money
and run. And Anthony, for example, by time this contract
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runs out, if they don't renew another long term contract
five or six years down the road, he would be
in a free agent capacity after having played eight seasons
as an eight year contract. So he'll make a lot
of money in this contract. He'll make a lot of
money in his next contract. But let's put that one aside.
We'll worry about that maybe later on this week or
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next week. Chad Finn has spent on this program before
and he's generally a pretty reliable guest, so I'm sure
something impacted him tonight, and hopefully it was nothing serious. Now,
I do want to mention that we're going to be
talking on the other side of the nine o'clock News
with the Israeli Consul General to New England, Benny Sharoni. Today.
There was an interview that Fox News conducted with Benjamin Netanya.
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Was about a twenty three to twenty four minute interview
in depth and pretty clearly indicates that Netanya, who once
he has the support of his cabinet, wants to send
the IDF troops into further deeper into Gaza and finish
the job. We will talk with the Consule General about that.
(38:00):
Also will invite you to call. He may be able
to take a couple of phone calls, so if you'd
like to talk to the Consul General. I believe that
he will stay with us until nine thirty and then
afterwards we'll talk about that. And then we're going to
talk about what's going to happen if Donald Trump and
Vladimir Putin have a summit, which obviously is going to
deal with primarily Ukraine, but there are some other issues
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we'll talk about. So it's kind of a foreign policy
night here on Nightside. If you're a foreign policy geek,
we want you to call. If you're somebody who is
not comfortable with foreign policy, please feel free to listen
and call and ask whatever questions you would like. We
will try to give you the straight answers. My name's Danray.
This is Nightside. Got the nine o'clock news coming up
and we're ready to go to that right now. And
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we're going to be talking with the Consul General in
the State of Israel to New England, Console General Benny Sharoni,
right after the nine pm news here on a Thursday night,
It's nice, Eye, Dan ray I'm telling you easy Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Oh we have but Goobin lined up. That is for
sure a good evening. Everybody. Welcome on into this Thursday
night edition of Nightside Beautiful Day to Day here in
New England. I hope it was as nice in your
part of the world. My name is Dan Rayam. The
host of the show. Rob Brooks is back in the
control room at Broadcast Central. He pretty much runs the show.
I just kind of come along for the ride actually,
and of course the show is the guests and the
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callers the most important elements of this show. We will
be talking at nine o'clock with the Israeli Console General
Console General Benny SHARONI. There is lots going on in
the Middle East. It now appears pretty clear that with
a vote from the Security Council of Israel the Cabinet
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of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyaho, that there will be an
effort by the Israeli military to basically take control at
least on an interim basis of Gaza. So we'll talk
with that about that's early and what we can expect
with the Consul General, and then later on tonight we're
going to sort of keep it on an international basis theme.
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We've hit a lot of local stories lately. At this point,
it would appear, and I can only say it woud
appear that Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin may meet at
some point next week. And I think the suggestions are
somewhere in the Middle East, like in the United Arab
Emirates or somewhere like that. We will have to see
how that goes along. And then the questions I'm going
to have for you are are you confident that in
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this sort of a head to head summit meeting Donald Trump,
President Truble hold his own? What do you think he
wants to get out of it? And even more importantly,
what do you think Vladimir Putin wants to get out
of it? So we've got lots to talk about tonight,
and hopefully those of you who are interested in foreign
policy and questions of war and peace will participate. We
do know that all of us here well, in the
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eastern half of the US, at least in the upper
eastern half of the US, the United States, For the
last few days, to a greater or a lesser extent,
we have been we have been impacted by smoke, smoke
primarily from Canadian wildfires, but some of that smoke has
actually been coming in from other other events. Uh. And
(02:18):
actually US wildfires, And with us is sus Sharita Kerr,
who is an expert. She's a pulmonologist at Tufts Medical Center. Uh.
I'm assuming it's doctor, although it doesn't say doctor here,
So I'm going to welcome doctor Kerr. And I hope
I pronounce your last name correctly, Doctor Kerr.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
A Hi Dan, Yes, it's doctor Sucherita Care. And I'm
actually from tough Medical Center.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yes, absolutely, I wanted to do that properly. And so
there's some pretty nasty air quality. I think Canada has
wildfires every year, as the US has wildfires every year.
They especially problematic this year.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I think your last couple of years have been challenging,
particularly in the summertime. As you've seen this week, the
air quality in the Boston area certainly has suffered because
of a lot of migration of the smoke from the
wildfire down south. So yeah, I think these fires have
become more prominent and more common.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Did you say, And there's nothing that the Canadian government
realistically can do about this that there's a lot of
forests in Canada. Anyone who has looked at the topography
of Canada knows. I think it's only about thirty million
people in an area that is as large, if not larger,
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than the United States, which has ten times that population.
So they have many, many more forested areas that can burn.
There's nothing that Canada can do about this, and they're
not allowing it to happen. But it's just I guess
it's part of the natural process, you know, trees burn
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or is there anything that could be done? Do you think? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I think what we've learned is it's really global warming
that's probably increasing the temperatures around making it for us
really dry and dropt that then m trigger a fire.
And so you know, overall, whether it's Canada or elsewhere,
you know, we're all on the same earth. And I
think global warming is at least something to do with
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the frequency and the extent of wildfires.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
So I had the fires in the last two or
three years been larger or are we just paying more
attention to it? Is there a pattern fires of this
magnitude we've never seen previously.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yes, I'm not an expert at the fires at least
from what I can read. Definitely think the fires are larger,
a wider area, covering wider areas, and more frequent. And
plus I think it's a little bit of both. You're
also more aware of what there's media out there talking
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about the air quality of the air we breathe in
particle pollution and things like that. It's probably a combination
of both.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
So who amongst your patients are you most worried about?
Is it older folks? Is it folks who have a
pre existing condition, and what can they do when the
fires seem to create more smoke as they have in
the last few weeks.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yes, And so I'm a lung doctor, so all of
my patients have pre existing lung conditions. And so both
older people as well as people with pre existing lung
conditions such as those with asthma, copt or other lung conditions,
are particularly vulnerable from the exposure to particular matter and
air pollutions such as that can happen in the setting
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of avars fire, even one hundreds of miles away. And
what I often tell them is to really be aware
of the air quality in dex So that did they
know that the air quality is poor outside that might
not be a day to go out for a long
walk or do strenuous activity that can then have them
breathe deeper because then that allows the air particles to
go really deep into the lungs and then really being prepared. Right, so,
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if they have as NORCOPD, making sure that they have
their action plan, make sure that they have their inhaler handy,
should their breathing get worse as a result of the exposure,
then they can act quickly and use their inhaler and
get them necessary medical treatment.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Now is it a short term inconvenience or is this
something that on the short term for certain patients can
be up to an including life.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Right, Yeah, So there's a lot of literature that long
term exposure to air pollution can impact long functions. So
the thing actually got that decline and low function. We
are beginning to learn though, a lot of impact of
these intermittent, short term exposures to for example, wildfire smoke
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over a period of weeks and weeks or days a weeks.
But I can imagine that at least some early data
shows that definitely in the short term, these people that
think disting condition can have increased risk of going to
the emergency department, for example, because of increasing ASTHMASIOPD symptoms.
And I'm also aware of data that people with heart
disease can have increased risk of stroke or heart attacks
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during these times of increased air pollution.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
This is this is a real dilemma. Now, at some
point these fires will diminish, but probably they'll they'll come
back at us again. If past years are any guidance,
how long do you think, uh this these conditions are
going to continue. Are we talking about a couple of
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weeks or a couple of months?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I think you know, at least a part of the globe,
summers are getting longer, springtime starts early because of the
warming of the earth, and so I think we can
expect at least some of this impact of smoke and
the wildfires will last. But again, like we talked about
earlier in this discussion, it sounds like, you know, they're
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almost here every year for the last few years since
if time will tell, who knows it might be the same.
Unless there is a sort of universal way to tackle
global warming and how we can all work together to
resolve that.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It's hard. The international cooperation on that, it's obviously quite problematic.
There's a lot of countries around the world who are
not as advanced as the US, and they're pumping pollutants
into the atmosphere just as well as we are, maybe
even more pollutants. So my last question is, if you're
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a patient right now and you're not fortunate enough to
live in an air conditioned department, you the next week
is going to be really warm, So, yeah, you're in
this terrible spot. On the one hand, you probably are
trying to keep your windows closed to keep bad air out.
(09:22):
At the same time, the temperatures next week are going
to be in there in the nineties. Any advice generally
that you can give folks who you know who don't
have the benefit of air conditioning.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, I know, that's that's such a dilemma, right. What
I often tell is uh is uh, you I think
if they're able to thinking about getting an air purifire,
particularly with HEPA filters, can help really remove them of
these pm uh two point five particle pollutants out. But
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it's rastltely right, It's really a hard dilemma. And you know,
a hot mida it can also bother people with asthma
and COOPD. So it's sort of you between a rock
and a hard place.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Well, I think we've all learned a lot from our
conversation with you. My guest doctor Sharita Kerr, a pulmonologist
a tough medical center. Is there any website that you
might like to refer people to, generally who could get
more information even beyond what we've talked about. Sometimes there
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might be a website or or an easily accessible information location.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Absolutely, the American Association actually has some phenomenal resources for
the lead public. They also have it in various languages,
and so it's a great place to start.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
That's a great suggestion, Doctor Kurt, thank you very very much.
I do appreciate your time and appreciate your work. Thank
you so much.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Thank you, Dan, my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
You're welcome when we get back, when we talk with
Massachusetts State Senator Nick Collins about a piece of legislation
that is timely that he has filed relative to transportation
safety in Massachusetts. There were two really nasty accidents yesterday
in Boston, one just outside of Copley Square or maybe
depending on how you define Copley Square in Copley Square,
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and then another over on sever Street in Roxbury, and
there was serious injuries in both. This transportation safety legislation
that Senator Nick Collins has filed is pending on Beacon Hill,
and we're going to try to get some of you
interested in this when we talk with Senator Nick Collins
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on the other side of this break on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It's Night Side with Dan.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Ray on w Massachusetts State Senator Nick Collins, as far
as I'm concerned, one of the best state senators that
the Commonwealth has. Nick. Welcome to Welcome back.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
How are you, sir, Good evening, jan Thank you for
having me, Thanks for your kind word.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah. Well, you know, I went to college with your dad,
who served in the legislature as well, So I will
admit to being a little biased, but I think it's
actually a pretty objective judgment because I think that you
do great work up there, and you are now looking
at a transportation safety bill and act. Relative to transportation safety,
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I'm sure Senator that you know that there were two
really ugly incidents yesterday involving a mope head that I
believe was impacted. I'm not sure who caused it over
on sever Street in Roxbury. And then there was another
incident just outside of Copley Square. I'm still trying to
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find out what the physical conditions are. I believe that
there was serious injuries to both of these drivers. Whatever
they were driving smaller, smaller vehicles. I hope that both survived.
You've not heard of anything to the contrary.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
I hope, well, unless I heard they both had life
threatening injuries, both the driver of the schooner that collided
with automobile and the pedestrian who was in a crosswalk
was run over by an e bike in Copley Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, So so what would your legislation, legislative proposed to
do that might make the streets seafer? Safer? I hear
lots of complaints about people who say that there are
e bikes in mopeds on sidewalks in Boston, and that
h that. I believe that the suggestion on the e
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bike outside of Copley Square was that it might have
been a delivery of food delivery vehicles. So, you know,
the whole transportation system here in Boston, it's like the
wild wild West. What can you do to bring it
onto control?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Well, that's absolutely right. It is chaotic, to say the least,
and there's no really proper planning, and what my legislation
would do as hearing from constituents about this for years,
and it's escalated to a point where it is dangerous
and could be deadly. What we have right now is
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a situation where there's a mentality that bike lanes must
be everywhere, and that's what some of the transportation officials
have been executing, which clearly doesn't make any sense. Most
of the time they're empty, and then they automatically instantly
turn into the autobahn for electric bikes that often are
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traveling faster than the speed limit in the city, which
is twenty five miles per hour. And we'll wait to
see what happens with this report, but it's likely that
that was an e byte going faster than the speed limit.
So the legislation would do to reel in the wild
Wild West would be three major things. One, it would
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jack up the fines, which are right now so small
it's basically costs to a lunch to pay a fine
for your first defense, and we would jack that up
to two fifty second offense, five hundred and third defense
one thousand. And that's to really dissuade people who are
maneuvering in and out of leisure sometimes commerce for these
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delivery vehicles or you know, some other sort of courier
service that you know, really has no regulation, and so
it would require also that if they're using their vehicle
or e bike or scooter for a commercial purposes, they
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need to have commercial insurance which will limit the recklessness
and at least to the other side, if there is
an action, is sure that the victim gets at least
civil restitution. But on the planning side, which I think
is important here because there's an enforcement piece to this
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and a regulations piece to this, but it's also how
we're setting up these mini auto bonds, and what that
process is right now is no process. So this legislation
would require a public hearing be held by any municipal
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agency or state agency that is looking to put out
onto the streets a designated bike lane and require that
it meets eighty a American with Disabilities Act standards. None
of them do. Case in point, last year, a resident
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of the South End who's visually impaired blind legally was
run over by any bike in the South End on
Dartmouth Street. A few ble are closer to the South
end at Summon Street, and this has been to come
such an issue in municipalities that have leapt to try
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to accommodate this notion that if we build bike lanes,
all of a sudden environmental impacts are going to cease,
when clearly people don't all just hop in a bike
bicycle in February to get around the city of Boston.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
So we're not Copenhagen where bikes dominate. The other thing
is I think that the bikes should have some insurance
as well, the regular bikes, because someone can be injured
by a regular bicycle, by by an e bike, by
a blue Bike's.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
No, that's a great point because the blue bikes and
some of these bikes as well that are on personally
are very very heavy. So if you're going to get
hit with one of these, it's like getting hit by
a can feel at that speed like you get hit
by a car. There's also evidence that this is not
just an issue that is playing in Boston. Some of
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these other municipalities across the country, who are you know,
leaping to be the first to have the most bike lanes,
like Washington, d C. There's a major lawsuit going on
in d C. Right now led by the Washington d C.
Center for Independent Living, and a number of residents that
are members who are mobilely impaired and now you know,
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can't get in and around the city the way they
used to and have have been injured by e BYT
scooters going the wrong way. In addition, it's obviously harming
small businesses because it prevents a lot of people who
otherwise would have made their way if there's this ada
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compliance to their businesses. So there's a lot of collateral damage.
The first and foremost is safety and people just don't
feel safe. You already have you know, issues with enforcement,
and then you're adding these areas where there's no enforcement
at all. So the police are challenges.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Y Senator. As you know, the police are understaffed in Boston,
most of police patrolman's associations. I think they're down at
least a thousand from where they should be. That's not
what they're looking at for that they're trying to deal
with crime, and the city has gone way overboard. And
the reason is there's a there's a very effective lobbying
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group on behalf of bikes, uh, and they basically get
whatever they want. And I think eventually we're going to
see bike lanes going through people's apartments and their living rooms,
if if they would have their way. It's it's really tough.
And there have been people in other cities who have
been killed by bicycles. And I hope that neither of
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these folks who were injured yesterday, you know, lose their lives.
And I know that they're in serious condition, but let's
hope that they pull through. Nick, please keep us, Senator Collins,
keep us abreast of this. I'd love to have you
come on somenight and do a longer version and take
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some phone calls from residents of Boston in other areas,
and take the temperature of the public and see if
they have got to the point where they believe, like
you and I think, and I know like I do,
that something something needs to be done from a regulatory basis.
So thanks for following this legislation, and I hope that
eventually it's passed, and I hope that it saves some lives.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Thank you, Dan. Having on again.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
We will talk soon. We'll look forward and we'll get
some phone calls from listeners. Nick Collins, Senator Nick Collins,
who represents much of the City of Boston, and it's
a very effective legislator and a very effective representative of
his constituents. It is a couple of minutes later, so
instead of telling you about the new iHeartRadio app talk
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back feature, we'll get to in a moment. On the
other side, we're going to talk about the long term
contract that the Red Sox have negotiated with Roman and Anthony.
We have Chad Finn from the Boston Globe coming on
Little Sports Talk on the other side, and then later
on tonight we're going to talk with a couple an
expert at eight forty five as to how you can
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learn some tricks to recall other people's names. We'll explain
both of those, and then we will be talking with
at nine o'clock or nine oh five after the nine
o'clock news with the Consul General Israeli Consule General to
New England, Benny Charoni, about what is going on and
it's about to go on in Gaza as Israel forces
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move in to essentially end this war that could have
been ended a long time ago if Amas was not
intent on sacrificing themselves and Palestinians. Back on night side,
right after the break.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
All right, all of us have been in this situation
where you meet someone out of context. Maybe it's an
old high school teacher, maybe it's an old friend from college.
I don't know, but you you're at the supermarket and
just you know, you know the person, but you can't
pick their name out of your out of your file
cabinet up upstairs in Ukrainium with us as doctor Ivan.
(22:24):
I hope I'm pronouncing this correctly. Is it Misner or Meisner? Meisner? Okay?
He has a PhD in organizational behavior, known globally as
the father of modern networking and a New York Times
Best New York Times best selling author of over twenty
five books. And you basically have ways in which people
(22:47):
can do better, I guess at remembering people's names. It's
something that sometimes frustrates me, because you see someone, you
know who they are, but to be able to pull
that name out of the back of your brain. Sometimes
it's one of those Hey, how are you what can
we do to improve on that? That situation?
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Well, well let's let's come to the you know, you
meet somebody you can't remember their name in a moment.
But in general, what you want to do if you
want to stop name shaming, that is, you know, saying
I'm really bad at remembering names. You got to stop that.
We can all be better at remembering names, and it
doesn't come natural to me. I have to use techniques
(23:29):
to remember someone's name. One of them is repetition. So
when you meet someone, it's like, hey, Dan, it's really
nice to meet you. You know, tell me about what
you do and what do you like most about that?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Dan?
Speaker 5 (23:40):
So you repeat somebody's name over and over again. Now,
some people are really good at what I would call
association amusement park. You know, they're they're good at taking
somebody's name and applying it to something that you know,
the individual looks like or the name sounds like. I'm
not good at that, but if you're good at that,
that's fine. A visual anchor is another way to help
(24:06):
remember people's names. You know, this person looks like somebody
else I know, or they have glasses like somebody else
I know, and that visual anchor then helps you in remembering.
They might be a business card, maybe they have an
unusual business card. You anchor, you know their name with
the card that you got. So there's a few suggestions.
I'm happy to give you more.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Sure. A long time ago, when I first started out
in the radio business, and I had a little side
work in television for thirty one years with the CBS
affiliate in Boston, and now I'm back in radio, sort
of coming full circle. There was a great basketball player's
name is Jerry Lucas played for the Cincinnati Royals in
(24:48):
the era of Oscar Robertson, been in Ohio State, a
bluck eye, great basketball player, and after he retired from
the NBA, he wrote a book called The Memory Book,
and he had some sort of a memory, an acuity
where he could walk into a room with one hundred people,
introduced to one hundred people, and walk out of the
room and come back in five minutes later and remember
(25:09):
all of their names. Now, he would do that because
he said he could, I could identify something about them,
and somehow, I think the first example you were you
were suggesting that almost is he must have had a
photographic memory or something that was a special skills. If
(25:30):
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
He has a special skill. And God bless some people
like that. Good for them. But however, how many times
you need to walk back into a room with one
hundred people and remember everybody's name?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
No, no, absolutely, more.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Often than not you're actually talking to somebody, in thirty
seconds into the conversation, you've already forgotten their name.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, that that can happen. So for me, it's content
a lot. If if I know you and I meet
you in a different context at the airport, you might
be a neighbor, but it's who I don't you know.
It's not like your best friend, don't get me wrong,
but someone who you should know, they've lived down the
street for a few years, and you happen to be
(26:13):
standing in line. I've done this. I remember being in
line where I did remember people's names. That Disney World.
You turn around and you're in Disney World and you
realize that there's someone three people away from you who
lives two streets from you at back in Massachusetts. Context
Is that an excuse that I'm using for my inability
(26:34):
to remember names?
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Now I've got to listen. Context is important. It helps.
It's one of the reasons why I recommend to people
don't say it. Never say it's nice to meet you.
If you can, if you can help it, don't stay
it's nice to meet you, because I can't tell you
how many times people said, well, well we've met before.
Oh you know, give me some context. When did we
meet one of us? Five years ago? You did a
presentation for about a thousand people. I came up and
(26:56):
I said, jeez, man, seriously, you want me to remember
a name. I don't say that, but that's what I say.
So I generally say nice to see you because people say, yeah,
it's good to see you again. We met at you
know event you did five years ago. I was like, okay,
he just gave me context.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Will I will tell you this? Uh, doctor Meisner, that's okay.
I been okay, thank you. I appreciate that. But I
worked in television for many years, thirty one years, and
I was a reporter, investigative reporter for WBZ here in Boston,
and I would have people come up to me at
a Red Sox game. But I was there on a
(27:38):
Saturday or Sunday, and they would the title up to
me and they'd say, hi, Dan, do you remember me?
And whenever they said that question, it was panic, And
of course I would hope that somehow I could. But
in many cases I would just be honest. I'd say,
I gotta be honest with you. I'm stumped. Where did
we meet? And they will say, all about twenty five
(28:01):
years ago you were doing a story at the Dedham
Massachusetts Sewer Committed and you interviewed me after the meeting,
and I wanted to say, I interviewed ten thousand people.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
You don't get it. So there's two pieces of that
that I think are important. One is, if you're the
person walking up to someone, never ever ever say do
you remember me? Because you're putting them on the spot. Instead,
what you want to do is say it's great to
see you again, and then give them context. We met
twenty years ago, you did an interview. I was on
(28:36):
such and such a topic. Yeah, now you've got an idea.
So from one perspective, never ever say do you remember me?
That's just a bad idea. And then if somebody does say, hey,
do you remember me, I now say give me some context?
You know still that I so, I can, you know,
rattle my brain to recall our connection, and then oftentimes
(28:59):
they'll give me technicle. Yeah, of course I remember. Thank
you so much for giving me the context. Nobody ever
gets upset with that. No, I'm sorry, I don't remember you.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
One of the things that I do. Because I was
on worked in television, now worked in radio for eighteen years.
I'm fairly well known in the in the Boston and
the New England area, Okay, But when I bump into
somebody who I think might know me, you know, for example,
if I run into a member of Congress or a
(29:32):
governor who have interviewed or whatever, I never hesitate to
say Governor Dan Ray from WBZ in Boston. We met
about six months ago at such and such, and I
found that that was a way that a lot of
people appreciate that as opposed to playing the role of saying, well,
he's got to remember me, hey, governor, you know, and
(29:54):
putting them on the spot.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
So you're using the right technique, you know. I had
an opportunity to meet and spend some time with Richard
Branson at his island several times in Necker Island, and
he was kind enough to give me his email address,
and when I when I don't use it very often,
but when I do, I always reach out to him.
Stand up photograph of the two of us together and say,
(30:20):
Richard is really good to chat with you again. We
met on Necker on such and such a date. Here's
a photo. And what's funny is he always replies and says,
oh yeah, I mean, of course I remember you. Who
knows if he does. But I gave him so much
context it made it easy. And that's what you're talking
about is exactly the way you should behave with people.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I can tell you one quick story about Bill Clinton.
I interviewed Clinton many times, so same age, kind of
came of age as he did as a as a
governor and then obviously as a as a presidential candidate.
And I about two years after he left office, we
were down in some congressional hearings in Washington and coming
back to Boston the next day. I was in line
(31:01):
at one of the donut places or whatever, and all
of a sudden, as I turned around with my coffee
and my donut, here's here's Bill Clinton. Secret Service agents. There,
a couple of Secret Service agents who I knew, said hey, Dan,
what are you doing? So they were very relaxed. And
I had interviewed Clinton probably twenty times in my career.
And I looked at me said mister President, I'm not
(31:22):
sure if you remember me, Dan Ray from WVZ in Boston. Uh.
And he lit up as he always did, very personal guy. Hey,
how you doing all that? You know? We uh we
we had an interesting little walk along the back to
back towards the gates and uh, and exchange some pleasantries.
And that's take the pressure off the other person. It's
(31:44):
really that.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Don't test people on their memory because it's completely you know,
I met somebody at a grocery store like a year
ago and she said, you remember me, and I'm like, okay,
hang on, and you know we're in a grocery store
and I said, give me some context and she said, well,
you know I was at your house about six months
ago for a fundraise and I'm like, yes, I remember.
(32:08):
Thank you so much for that context. So don't test people.
Be nice and you know, give them a little bit
of help, just like you're describing.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Absolutely and I appreciate it. What is your latest book
that people could perhaps find on Amazon and and maybe
help themselves by helping us?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Yeah, my latest book, Yeah, yeah. My latest book is
called The Third Paradigm, The Third Paradigm, and it's about
co creation. The first paradigm is about competition, the secondest
cooperation and the thirdest co creation. It's available in bookstores
and online. And I've got a website Ivandmeisner dot com.
And of course I'm the founder of bn I, which
has eleven thousand groups all around the world.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Sounds great. I'd love to have you back. I enjoyed
the conversation immensely. I really did. And I will remember you.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Thank you, Dan, I'll remember you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Ivan Meister, thank you so much. We'll be back right
after this quick break. I will remind you that you
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Speaker 1 (33:45):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
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Speaker 2 (33:51):
As occasionally happens here on Nightside, one of our four
eight pm guests for some reason gets called away, maybe
leaves their set phone under a pillow with it on mute. Anyway,
we expected to have one of the Boston Globe writers,
(34:12):
Chad Finn, on to talk about Roman Anthony. Now, what's
most important about Roman Anthony is he just signed a
big deal with the with the Red Sox, eight year,
one hundred and thirty million dollar contract and in baseball,
those contracts are guaranteed. I think it's a great signing
for the Red Sox. I know that a lot of
you are baseball fans out there, and this young guy,
he's only twenty one years of age, and to be
(34:34):
twenty one years of age and look at one hundred
and thirty million dollars guaranteed to play a game you love.
Talk about a golden opportunity. And we wish Roman Anthony, Well,
maybe we'll get Roman to come on some night and
tell us about himself. He really has comported himself well
and has looked great as a player. Had a little
(34:54):
bit of a slow start, but he's brought the batting
average up, and I think when you look at him,
if you know anything about baseball, you realize this is
a guy that's, you know, here to stay. And sure
that contract is insured, as most major league baseball contracts are,
in case he were to suffer some you know, career
threatening injury. But I think he's on a glide path
(35:17):
to a long major league career. Reminds me a little
bit of the time that Tony Kinney Glaio showed up
in Boston as a young guy out of Lynn in Swampsktte,
Massachusetts and set the world on fire. And of course,
in those days, free agent contracts or big time contracts
really never existed until you had the battles that Kurt
(35:40):
Flood and others Andy Mesterschmidt waged in order to get
free agency. In those days, baseball players were every contract
they signed there was an option of the next year.
So the good players always had that option and they
would get a little bit of extra money. But to
think back in those days, the Ted Williams is and
they mantles of the world, most of them topped out
(36:02):
at one hundred or one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars,
a lot of money for the day, but certainly in
compared to the money that the players are getting today,
players who are not even close to Mickey Mantle or
to Ted Williams, particularly from the perspective of a career.
So congratulations to the Red Sox. They have adopted this strategy,
(36:24):
which is to sign up their good young players to
long term contracts and hold them under contract and reward them,
and the players take a little bit of a break,
of a little bit of a gamble. But I think
the agents are advising them well to take the money
and run. And Anthony, for example, by time this contract
(36:46):
runs out, if they don't renew another long term contract
five or six years down the road, he would be
in a free agent capacity after having played eight seasons
as an eight year contract. So he'll make a lot
of money in this contract. He'll make a lot of
money in his next contract. But let's put that one aside.
We'll worry about that maybe later on this week or
(37:09):
next week. Chad Finn has spent on this program before
and he's generally a pretty reliable guest, so I'm sure
something impacted him tonight, and hopefully it was nothing serious. Now,
I do want to mention that we're going to be
talking on the other side of the nine o'clock News
with the Israeli Consul General to New England, Benny Sharoni. Today.
There was an interview that Fox News conducted with Benjamin Netanya.
(37:36):
Was about a twenty three to twenty four minute interview
in depth and pretty clearly indicates that Netanya, who once
he has the support of his cabinet, wants to send
the IDF troops into further deeper into Gaza and finish
the job. We will talk with the Consule General about that.
(38:00):
Also will invite you to call. He may be able
to take a couple of phone calls, so if you'd
like to talk to the Consul General. I believe that
he will stay with us until nine thirty and then
afterwards we'll talk about that. And then we're going to
talk about what's going to happen if Donald Trump and
Vladimir Putin have a summit, which obviously is going to
deal with primarily Ukraine, but there are some other issues
(38:20):
we'll talk about. So it's kind of a foreign policy
night here on Nightside. If you're a foreign policy geek,
we want you to call. If you're somebody who is
not comfortable with foreign policy, please feel free to listen
and call and ask whatever questions you would like. We
will try to give you the straight answers. My name's Danray.
This is Nightside. Got the nine o'clock news coming up
and we're ready to go to that right now. And
(38:41):
we're going to be talking with the Consul General in
the State of Israel to New England, Console General Benny Sharoni,
right after the nine pm news here on a Thursday night,
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