September 29, 2025 • 37 mins
We kicked off the program with four news stories and different guests on the stories we think you need to know about!
LinkedIn survey, only 30% of individual contributors want to be promoted into management anytime soon.
Guest: Jon Bowerman - Cofounder, Stealth Consulting
The Paul Mahoney Memorial Golf Tournament Coming up at the Norwood Country Club Oct. 11th
Guest: Richard Laham
Why do movie theaters just keep rereleasing movies we’ve already seen? Hollywood’s new formula for success is apparently rereleasing old movies…
Guest: Dr. Andy Draper – co-hosts the podcast, Off Script Film Review & a Web content manager at Meadows School of the Arts
Healey-Driscoll Administration Issues Evidence-Based COVID-19 Vaccine Guidance to Ensure Access for Residents Guest: Dr. Shira Doron - Chief Infection Control Officer for Tufts Medicine and Hospital Epidemiologist at Tufts Medical Center
LinkedIn survey, only 30% of individual contributors want to be promoted into management anytime soon.
Guest: Jon Bowerman - Cofounder, Stealth Consulting
The Paul Mahoney Memorial Golf Tournament Coming up at the Norwood Country Club Oct. 11th
Guest: Richard Laham
Why do movie theaters just keep rereleasing movies we’ve already seen? Hollywood’s new formula for success is apparently rereleasing old movies…
Guest: Dr. Andy Draper – co-hosts the podcast, Off Script Film Review & a Web content manager at Meadows School of the Arts
Healey-Driscoll Administration Issues Evidence-Based COVID-19 Vaccine Guidance to Ensure Access for Residents Guest: Dr. Shira Doron - Chief Infection Control Officer for Tufts Medicine and Hospital Epidemiologist at Tufts Medical Center
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nice eyes, Dan, I'm going easy Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Rob, I'm confused. Who are the Yankees they're talking about here?
Is this one of the baseball teams? Rob? It is? Okay?
Good right, okay? Rob is my baseball guy here. Just
check it. Good evening, everybody, just having a little bit
of fun to start the week off in a light. Note.
My name is Dan Ray. Those of you who have
not driven off the road with having heard that question,
(00:29):
I get it. I get it. My name is Dan Ray. Yes,
I'm a baseball fan, There's no doubt about it. And
I will be watching those games tomorrownight, which are at
six o'clock, which means they very well might be over
or at least decided on Monday, Tuesday, and if necessary,
Wednesday before we start nightside. So that is our good
news for me, and hopefully it's good news for you.
(00:51):
Rob Brooks is gonna be here all week. I will
be here Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Notice they didn't mention Friday.
I'm off on Friday night. I have a big event
to attend that I'll tell you about later on during
the week. It's a super secret event, you know how
Bill Gates has these meetings with supersed not that, not that,
(01:13):
but it is about as super insecret as that. Believe
it or not. It is an incredible event that I
could not miss. It's a once in a lifetime event
that I was invited to and I will attend there.
So I will be here for four nights this week,
which means you have four opportunities to talk with me
after the eight o'clock hour. Because of the eight o'clock hour,
(01:36):
we talked to some very interesting guests for eight, nine,
ten minutes and then we move on. My name is
Dan Ray, I'm the host, and as they mentioned, Rob
is back in the control room. So let us start
off with an artist, an entrepreneur, and an author. Boy,
that's a lot of talent there. John Bowerman, John, Welcome
(01:59):
to knights At How are you, sir?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Hi doing good? Dan?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
You are also co founder of something called Stealth Consulting.
If you're anywhere as successful in stealth consulting as President
Trump was with the stealth bombers hitting Iran's nuclear site,
you're a probably pretty successful company. You've done a survey
(02:26):
that finds only thirty percent of employees want to be
promoted into management anytime soon. I'm not sure how I
read that. I'm not sure that's a good thing or
a bad thing? What say you, John Barrowman of Stealth.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Consulting, Yeah, Dan, you know, I think that's a little
bit indicative of the risk.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
I think today a lot of people today are looking
to take on when they're in a position, and they're
not thinking about pursuing a managerial role as much as
they might have in years past, which maybe came with
more prestige. But I really think it comes down to,
you know, if you're if you're finding yourself in a
(03:10):
good position, especially from the employer's side, if you have
someone in a good position, for them to move to
a managerial role is a lot of risk because they
might not find that their other positions still exists, and
so you know, getting them over the fence to take
on a managerial role is a is a pretty big ask.
(03:32):
And and I've found that, you know, when you're approaching
the world like an entrepreneur, you're you're not necessarily having
to take such a big leap, and you know, you
can get more people in your company to think about
going into a managerial role if you start them out
with maybe some smaller projects, let them, let them get
a taste of responsibility before they have to go all
(03:54):
in and take that amount of risk on.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Is this really a problem? I mean, I would assume
that management at some level probably only represents ten percent
of the workforce, or you probably know it better than
I do. What percentage of the workforce across all industries
are technically management.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I don't know the exact percentage, but pretty close to
pretty close what I'm familiar with.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So I always think about things in terms of Major
League Baseball. If I can play baseball and play it well,
I can have a career of fourteen fifteen years in
the big leagues making a bundle of money. The guys
who end up as managers in Major League Baseball are
not the best players. And also the life expectancy, the
(04:47):
managerial life expectancy of a major League baseball player or
football coach or basketball coach pretty limited. And I'm wondering
if people employees are saying, hey, I can Honker Dow
down here, and I can do okay for myself, and
I don't have the phone calls on weekends, I don't
have the responsibility, I don't have to deal with the
(05:09):
crises on Sunday afternoon. I can work one Monday through Friday,
make a good living and not have to worry about
Savaies and Sundays. You think that's it, Maybe.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I think so. I think I think people have lost
a little bit of sight on what being in a
coach And I like that you use the word coach
Tiger's fan. Here we are just in town, so we'll
go on the baseball analogy.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Well, you got they got CORU's brother, Joey's who's the
third base coach, And you got Alex the man of
the Red Sox manager of the Red Sox. And I
guarantee you Alex as the managers, make it more than Joey.
But put that aside, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, And it's you know, I think if you know
when you can when you can show people, especially the
opportunity of a managerial role to be in that coach role,
when you can paint a clear picture about the impact
that they can make versus the role that is to
be done. Yeah, I think you get a lot more exciting,
right because as a coach, you have the ability to
(06:14):
take a group of players and accomplish something for for
a city, for an area, for a lot of a
lot of people. As a player, you have the potential
to be a part of that, but you don't necessarily
have the You're not necessarily in the position to be
quite the same level of a mentor or a developer.
And it's it's kind of unfortunately we're kind of stuck
(06:36):
with the word manager, because really the best managers are
the ones that coach, mentor and develop, not just not
just manage. What's what's going on?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Okay, well, I know, and again just I don't want
to carry the baseball analogy or the pro sports analogy
too far, but the best player on any Major League
baseball team makes a heck of a lot more money
than the manager or the coaches on the team. Same
way in football, et cetera. Occasionally, I guess you might
find them a coach who can make much money. In
(07:08):
business generally, and I know this cuts across. I asked
you before, what do you think ten percent of people
in the workforce are in some sort of management level,
you know, from a general manager right down to a
few other managerial levels below him. If you're the top
guy in one of these companies, you're making big Bucks
making big Bucks. But if you're if you're a manager
(07:31):
or district manager and assistant manager at McDonald's or whatever.
You know, there's different levels of manager. Are they being
rewarded adequately enough? Do these companies start to have to
maybe pony up a little bit more money for the
managers to induce these employees who are good to get
that managerial level and help other employees. Is that the
(07:54):
bottom line here? What's the bottom line? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
I think you're I think you're hitting on something, which
is you know, I believe and have run all the
companies that I've started based on where everyone has the
opportunity to share in the outcome if that outcome is
great for the for the business, so that you know,
you don't you don't have to be in a position
(08:20):
where you're restricted to say a fixed salary.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
You're able to participate in in something greater and I
think you know that could be applied. It's often applied in.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
A in a managerial role or or above, but not
as often in that regular position.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Well, the more people that have skin in the game,
the more successful the project will probably be. John Barrowman,
I appreciate it, Thank you very much. Nice to chat
with you, interesting guy. How can folks find your website
Stealth Consulting Stealth Consulting dot com. I'm going to guess
or is it something else?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Well, yes, I actually uh turning you to not Lost
Starting dot Com. It's where I put together for the
release of my new book, You're not Lost, You're just starting.
You can download. It's a free i'd call it everyday
entrepreneur action guide. So if you're on.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
The fence about getting something done or just getting more ahead,
or even negotiating more at work, I put it all
out there for free for everyone to benefit from. So
it's not Lost starting dot com.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I'm going to write a book. If you're on the fence,
don't go to sleep. Okay, just a thought, John, Thank
you very much. Enjoyed the conversation very much. We'll talk again.
Appreciate it. Thank you when we get back. When we
talk about the loss of a long time listener of
night Side and some of his buddies are doing a
memorial golf tournament in his memory at the Norwood Country
(09:52):
Club on October eleventh, and one of us got pals
called me and said, could we, you know, get a
little publicity I said absolutely. The Paul Mahoney Memorial Golf
tournament's coming up. If you want to play some golf
with a great group of guys, that's coming up. We'll
tell you all about it.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
On the other side of the break, it's nice side
with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I want to welcome Richard Lahamb. Richard sent me an
email of the other day and I responded to it,
and he asked me if I would publicize a memorial
golf tournament coming up at the Norwood Country Club on
October eleventh, in memory of Paul Mahoney. Paul was Paul
from Dorchester to me. He was a caller of many years.
(10:39):
He was a teacher in the Boston Public school system.
He was a coach. He was always had an opinion
and he was able to state that opinion clearly without equivocation.
And just a great guy. And he passed on earlier
this year. Richard Lahamb, thank you for doing this tonight
(11:01):
and thank you for representing Paul in this memorial golf tournament.
How are you doing on this? You need a couple
more golfers to join, Well, we can.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Always use a few more golfers. Absolutely, but Dan, I
want to thank you for letting us come on and
publicize this. It means a lot, especially to his wife, Teresa,
who is just thrilled that you've allowed us to be
involved in your show.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Oh let me tell you, Paul was great. I know
that he was sick and I was pulling for him.
And you lose listeners because you make friends in a
show like this, And to the best of my knowledge,
I never had a chance to shake Paul's hand. Although
being a guy from Dorchester and I also a kid
that grew up in the city myself, we made a place,
(11:48):
We made a play sports kids. Who knows what, But
just tell us what made him in your mind? You
were a close friend and you knew him. What made
him in your mind special?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Well, Paul was an incredible storyteller. His wife and my
wife grew up together, and when I met Paul, I
was captivated. I'm about six or seven years older than him,
but I loved hearing his stories. Not just about school,
not just about refereeing, not just about coaching. He had
(12:23):
a story about anything, and he kept me enthralled all
the time.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
He also really had a connection with his students. In
his student athletes. I just could tell that this was
the type of man, gentleman that you wanted your son
or daughter to be coached by or to be taught
in school by, and that he was reminiscent to me
(12:52):
of a lot of the teachers that I had in
the Boston public schools that bought Boston Latin School. They
would have been of a generation before all came into it,
came into the profession. But he just carried himself in
such a way. He would call in his his his
thoughts were precise, and you knew what he wanted to
(13:12):
talk about. Some of my callers will call and they
can kind of drift a little bit, and we let
him drift a little bit. But Paul always had a
point in the call that he was making, and he
would drive that point home.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
So absolutely, Paul's. Paul's the kids he coached not only
donating to this effort, but they're coming to golf as well.
In fact, one of them, he's probably forty five years old,
gave part of the eulogy at his Mercy mail after
(13:43):
the funeral. Paul affected kids for decades, and he just
he just had a special sense about him and personality
that you could love him him even though you disagreed
with him.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
And by the way, you always knew whatever he called.
I knew what his position was after about thirty seconds
because he would state in very clearly what he felt,
and then he would back up his position whatever the
issue was. Uh, and you know, thirty seconds or forty
five seconds, and then the conversation would ensue. So this
event is this I'm assuming it's a rain or shine
(14:23):
event in October. You're gonna get great. The only problem
in October is when there's so many leaves in the failway,
you sometimes lose the ball. Would you hit it?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Norwa does a good good job of cleaning up the
fairways for Okay, I'm sure he'll be clean that day.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
That's good to know. So that's a Saturday, right, What
time do you tee.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Off Danity October eleven? So we're going to tee off
about nine thirty, but we're asking people to come at
eight thirty so we can register everything, get the payments
we need, hand out, coffee in and the pastries. We
have some snack bags for everybody to take with them
the old water and snacks and what have you. So
(15:11):
that's at nine thirty, it's eighteen holes. It's one hundred
and fifty dollars per person. They are going to receive
a cat all the games on the course, and one
of the games is a hole in one. And we're
giving away a two year lease on a Mars automobile.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Okay, now that's not a part five five hundred yard hole.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
So that's three one hundred and sixty one hundred and
sixty five yard three.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Oh yeah, that's doable. That's absolutely undoable.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Thistle.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
This is all to benefit the Dana Farmer Jimmy vun
pancratic cancer research. Uh so that's right into a great cause.
Uh and you've got a number here. But even more importantly,
we got an email. And and people they don't have
to have known Paul, have been a student to Paul,
if they're a golfriend, they're looking to play Norwood Country Club.
(16:03):
Uh and and here's some stories and enjoy themselves. It's
easy to do. So what's the easiest way for people?
I know, I got an address here, I got your
phone number. Not going to give that out, but it
looks to me like the email is the is the
easiest way.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yes, I think if you email Mike golf Lally at
gmail dot com or call the Norwood Country Club. Mike
is actually the manager, okay at seven seven eight one
seven six nine five eight eight. Oh. They can let
(16:42):
him know what they want to do and I will
send them the the appropriate documents.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Okay. So it's so it's Mike golf Lally, It's all
Is that all one word?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
All one word, all one word?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Okay, that's not his middle name, but that works. Mike
l A. L. L Y at Norwood Country Club dot com.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yes at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Oh well, okay, right, I'm sorry I screwed that up. Sorry,
Mike golf Lally at gmail dot com. Five O eight Rob,
write these down. Will you have the number for Rob
is our producer five eight seven six nine seven eight
eight Oh and Mike golf Lally at gmail dot com. Rob.
(17:29):
In case anyone calls in during the next half hour,
they can get this information.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I don't know what your availability is on that day,
but I would love to have you, as I guess,
to golf with us or at least come to lunch.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Well, I would love to. Unfortunately I looked at this date,
uh and I'm going to be back on the Cape
with a couple of commitments, so I'm going to have
to put off meeting you sometime until the not your
distant future. Richard, again, please say hey to Paul's wife
and give her a big hug and tell her that
(18:02):
he's remembered by lots of my listeners. And I'm hoping.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Thank you so much. And just one other thing, we're
gonna ask everybody to pray for good weather that ginny.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Okay, Paul will make sure of that. I'm sure he's
in a position of influence at this point. I'm sure.
And it's a great it's a great call, Richard, Thank
you so much. I really enjoyed it. And at some
point we'll meet and we'll tell a couple of Paul
Mahoney stories.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Thank you, my friend, I hope. So thanks Dan.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
All right, good night, Saturday, October eleventh, and Rob has
that information. If you didn't have a chance to write
it down, give him a call at the regular number
at six one seven two ten thirty. There were no
other phone calls this hour, so you can get right
through and Paul will give you rather Rob will give
you that on the Paul Mahoney Memorial Golf Fun and
this golf tournament. It's a great cause he was a
(18:51):
great guy. And if you've never played the course, what
a great And you got a shot at a you know,
you got a chance holding one hundred and sixty five yards.
That's not out of reach. Mazda two year lease. Not bad,
not bad. Movie Back right after the news at the
bottom of the hour, we have two more guests coming up.
We're gonna ask the question why are movie theaters releasing
(19:11):
old movies that we've already seen. There's a reason for it,
we'll explain.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
With Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Joining us now is doctor Indy Draper. He He co
hosts a podcast called Off Script Film Review. He's also
a web content manager at the Metals School, the Meadows
School of the Arts, which is at Southern Methodist University.
It says SMU, I'm assuming it's Southern Methodist, correct, doctor Draper.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
And that's correct.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Okay, So I tend not to go to major movies,
but I had a role in a Emmy an Oscar
dominated movie on air with an IMDb credit reversal of
(20:07):
Fortune with which was a clause from Buelau movie many
years ago. And now movies like Black Swan Jaws are
coming back, according to the New York Times in theaters.
Is Hollywood not making as many new movies? I think
a lot of the movies they're making are not great
(20:29):
movies now. But what's going on? Why are the oldies
but goodies coming back to theaters up on the big screen.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Well, this is an industry that's always in constant change.
Trends come and go, audiences changed, tastes change. You've got
to kind of be able to predict a little bit
and your vector. Right, There's been a big reduction in
TV shows and movies in the last few years, and
so that's created kind of gaps for you know, how
do we feel this content with there's still fifty two
(21:00):
weekends a year. What do we feel with having less product?
And the answer is part of the answer has been
let's use some anniversary screening, let's bring back some classic films,
and they've been doing really well. The Jaws fiftieth anniversary
re release over the summer made about eight billion dollars
opening weekend. It made more than a couple of the
new releases that weekend. So there's still a lot of
(21:23):
demand and interest for some of these classic films.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
So is.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I think of the movies that you know, I think
of Titanic and I think of Good Fellas. Are those
coming back or is it a certain genre that hits
that comes back to the big screen.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Well, some of the big blockbuster films definitely come back.
We're seeing Avatar, the second one, which which was released
a couple of years ago in twenty twenty three, that's
coming back for a release. So things that were big
successes in the past also just things that numerically anniversary
things in their ten, twenty, thirty, forty.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah. So if there's yeah, anniverstrators, if there's a hook.
One movie that I really enjoyed, and a friend of mine,
David Walmart, was the producer Life of Pie It Could.
I would love to see that at a theater. You know,
I've watched it previously, but that's one I would do.
I'm sure you're a film critic, so you know the
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movie of which I speak.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
I hope, yes, Yes, I saw it in theater too.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, the kid in the raft with the tiger. I
still don't know how they did it. David Walmart won't
tell me. But that's neither here nor there. I just
movies are different now. It used to be you go
to the theaters. You go to the theater now and
I don't go much, but there's one that I that
I that's very close to where I live, and it's
(22:53):
a whole different experience. They have people, waiters bringing you
your dinner. I have are many? Or am I just
lucky to have one close to where I live? Where
you it's no longer just a pepsi and some popcorn.
I mean though they serve alcohol. It's it's it's becoming
a different experience. Is that something that is that is
(23:15):
growing or is that something that the movie's tried and
now they're moving on to a different a different way
to get people to come back into the theater.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Theaters are definitely investing in a new kind of experience,
and they're trying to add bells and whistles to the experience,
things like luxury recliners, the de box seats that move
and shake bars. Like you mentioned alcohol. The one I
go to has a coffee bar and you can get
lattes and different kind of coffee drinks. But they're trying
to enhance the experience and in addition to you buying
(23:47):
the ticket, and part of that is to get you
to buy maybe a premium ticket to an IMAX or
an XD screening, to spend a little bit more money
when you go.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Well, when you think about it, if you go even
to a Midland rest in the middle of the road
restaurant these days, okay, and it's for two of you,
and if you have a drink and an entre, the
entre is going to be thirty five bucks. You know,
a glass of wine is going to be you know,
fifteen or twenty. And I'm not talking about you know,
New York City here or even downtown Boston. So why
(24:18):
not go to a movie theater and enjoy a classic movie?
I think it's I think you're not gonna You're probably
gonna pay about the same or maybe even a little less.
Am I right on that analysis?
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Right when you compare to other outings for two people
or for a family, it's it's about the same, if
not cheaper. The problem is most people compare going to
the theater with watching at home, and the cost difference
is so huge. And actually that's one of the big
competitions for theaters is streaming. Everyone is like, well, I'll
just get people together at my house on Friday, get
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the kids and their friends over. I'll buy snacks and
it'll be less than what it costs to go to
the theater. So that's a big competition for the theaters
these days.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
But it's the same with restaurants. I mean, you can,
you can you know, you cooks, you know, spaghetti, meatballs,
or or to pizza out, and it's you're gonna be
it's gonna be a lot less expensive. But if but
it just seems to me that the theaters, if they
packaged it right and and made the point that it's
it's about the same as going to a restaurant, at
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least the numbers that I've seen, and you get the
movie thrown in.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Right, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I just think that the marketing has to improve. There's
this theater near me and it's in the mall. It's
next to a very expensive, high end restaurant, and I
just think that they don't market it. And maybe they
figured by bringing back these these old time movies. What
was what was the most successful of the movies that
(25:50):
I'm going to say they recycled recently. Was had to
be Jaws, I assume.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Yeah, I think it was Jaws. You see some of
these these big ones have a pretty run. I rewatched
Interstellar last year in twenty twenty four for its ten
year and that made think about ten million that weekend.
It's not huge amounts. You're not winning the box office usually,
but it's enough to justify the distribution costs to do
it well.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
If you're making ten million dollars on a movie that's
already been out and is being replayed that million dollars,
it's pretty much pure profit at at that point. There
were so many movies when I always like to look
at movies that I like and say, Okay, what did
it cost to produce? And then what box office did
it make? And there's a lot of movies that don't
(26:35):
make they don't turn a profit.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Yeah, and marketing is so expensive too. Right now, the
kind of conventional wisdom is you need to make two
and a half times whatever your budget is, So a
fifty million dollar movie will have to make one hundred
and twenty five to start getting into profit territory. So
movies really have to make way beyond their kind of
announced budget or estimated budget to see the return on that.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
And a lot of great movies can be made for
heck of a lot less than that too. I realized
that some of the major, major, major, Titanic and all
of that is just millions of dollars to make. But
there's a lot of ten million and fifteen dollars fifteen
million dollar movies which which were great, which were great,
and stand the test of time. All of these movies
that you know, you've you've referred to have stood the
(27:24):
test of time. Thanks very much, doctor Andy Draper. He
is a web content manager at the Medal School of
the Arts as a doctorate in music, specifically tuba. So
you have a doctorate in tuba. Well that's interesting. Thanks
very much for joining us. Never had you on before,
but love to have you back.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Very welcome. Have a great night. When we get back,
we're going to talk about evidence based COVID nineteen vaccine guidance,
because when COVID hit in twenty twenty, ninety nine percent
of the public to get that shot. It's not quite
the same five years later. And we're going to talk
(28:05):
with doctor Shira Derome, chief infection control officer at Tufts
Medicine and hospital epidemiologists at the Tought's Medical Center right
after this quick break on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Delighted to welcome back to Nightside, doctor Shirah Doern. She's
the chief Infection Control Officer for Tuft's Medicine. She's also
a hospital IBID epidemiologist at Tuft's Medical Center. Welcome back,
doctor Doerome.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
Such a pleasure to be back with you. You know, we.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Have talked several times over the years about COVID nineteen,
and now we have the latest discussion that we need
to have about this. I get a feeling that people
are really confused about whether they should get a COVID
nineteen vaccine this fall, more so than ever before, and
(28:59):
there were a lot of people who were confused when
it all happened back in the spring of twenty twenty.
Am I misreading that.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
There has been a lot of confusion. There have been
weeks and weeks of the new formulation were approved, was
approved of the vaccine was approved by the FDA, and
we didn't know what the recommendations are. But now here
in Massachusetts things have become completely clear. Thanks to our
(29:31):
heally and our state Health Commissioner, we actually have some
very clear guidance that we can use going forward into
this respiratory season.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Well, pray tell, let's hear the guidance, because as somebody
who follows the news, to be honest with you, I
don't have a clue what the guidance is.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
Yeah, And it was very confusing because what happened was
the group that normally makes those recommendations, Advisory Committee for
Immunization Practices, that is an external advisory committee to the CDC.
They were supposed to have issued their recommendations in June.
Turns out the entire committee was terminated by the new administration.
(30:13):
They did meet in June, but this didn't make it
onto the agenda this question, and so then that meeting
wasn't going to happen until September, which is very very
late now. As September was approaching, obviously, that's leaked to
here to get the guidelines when the vaccine has been approved,
you know, for several weeks now, so going you know,
(30:34):
leading up until that ACIP committee meeting which happened last week,
we many of us started to become worried. State health
officials started to become worried. That they may make some
recommendations for the COVID vaccine that may restrict access for
people who should get it and people who want it,
(30:56):
and so more Heally and the state Health and stepped
in and they made a couple of declarations. One is
that Massachusetts would have its own COVID vaccine guidelines, and so,
regardless of what was going to happen with that advisory,
committed to CDC last Friday, we would follow state guidelines
(31:18):
and they did release those guidelines right just in time
before the CDC meeting. The second thing that Mari Heally
changed was that pharmacist would be authorized to administer vaccines
based on state guidelines, not CDC guidelines, So that was
a change in the law. And the third thing was
that insurance companies and Massachusetts would cover the vaccines based
(31:38):
on state guidelines.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Okay, So a couple of things here, which to me
is interesting. One. I know what I feel about it, Okay,
I feel some apprehension about it. I don't feel apprehension
about the annual flu shot. I've already gotten my annual
(32:04):
flu shot, the high dose for someone who's on the
wrong side of sixty five. Okay, So I assume you
would advise anyone over the age of sixty five get
your flu shot. There's no downside to that, right.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
But everything has anything can have a side effect.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
But yeah, actually you your arm can be sore or whatever.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
But yep, I.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
Don't know that there are rare there are rare severe
side effects. But the recommendation for a flu shots is
actually that everyone over the age of six months get
a flu shot. Why because we have had last year
we had about two hundred and eighty deaths in children,
and half of those had no underlying medical conditions. So
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children and healthy adults do die every year of the flu,
and so the recommendation is to get that flu shot,
even though there is a very rare chance of beer
side effect, and obviously anybody can have a sore on
So the number.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
That that you decided two hundred and eighty children, were
those two hundred and eighty children who were vaccinated against
the flu or with those two hundred a portion of.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
Those did not get the vaccine.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Okay, So that's an important that's an important factor that
I want to underscore that you know, people need if
they're going to take their chances, they need to they
need to do it responsibly in terms of COVID.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Yep, what not as clear cut?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Not as not as clear cut? Is all on two reasons.
One because you know, I've gotten my COVID shot every
year every year and done it right. But I get
a feeling when I walk into supermarkets and I walk
into pharmacies and I'm told, oh, you got a free foods,
a flush, a free COVID shot here, and also you're
(33:56):
going to get a ten dollars you know, shopping spree
or something like that. There's just something about that that
kind of inhibits me. It's almost as if the CBS
is of the world and all of the pharmacies. I
shouldn't focus on CBS, but the pharmacies and the grocery stores,
I'll look at that as another revenue stream.
Speaker 7 (34:20):
Well, you know, there has been a lot of mistrust
about this vaccine for a variety of reasons. It has
been politicized, there has been a lot of misinformation, and
I do agree that we as a country, our health
authorities need to do better to restore trust in this vaccine.
(34:41):
And one of the big complaints that people have, if
they're paying attention, is that the US has been recommending
an annual vaccine for everyone over the age of six months,
like they do for the flu shot, and no other
country does that, and neither does the WHO. And so
the CDC and its advisory committed before the seventeen members
(35:02):
were terminated were actually they were meeting and they were
planning to issue new guidelines that were less broad than
they had been in the past. They were planning to
change from everyone over the age of six months to
get it every year to a more risk based strategy
where everyone over sixty five should get it and those
with underlying medical conditions.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
So they knew, well, that didn't happen, but they knew
that Kennedy Secretary Kennedy was looking to get rid of them.
Why didn't they make sure they issued it even after
they would have been disbanded. Couldn't have they gone ahead,
I mean and said, hey, if we had continued in
our position from which we were terminated, this would have
been our recommendation.
Speaker 7 (35:43):
Yeah, that's a really good point. In the end, though,
that is what the Northeast states ended up doing, what
the Western states ended up doing. So the states have
been creating these coalitions and they've been coming together and
they've been issuing recommendations together also in conjunction with the
American Academy of Pediatrics, the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecologies,
(36:06):
the American Family Practices Associations, and those guidelines are more
risk based and less broad.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Then we should do doctor Jerone. We're running out of
time here, but we should really do this for an
hour and take calls so that people we can't do
a justice in ten minutes. And I just think that
you and I are kind of on the same page here.
And I'm not a medical person, Okay, I have a
pretty good idea about what I'm going to do what
(36:34):
I'm not going to do, But I wanted how to
help my listeners. And if I get to come back
some night for an hour at nine o'clock and maybe
take phone calls and address some of these specific concerns,
I think it would go a long way into clarifying things,
at least from my audience. If we could do that,
I'd love to do it. If you can't because you have,
you know, stuff to do early in the morning, I
(36:55):
will understand. But that's an open invitation if you're willing
to consider it.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
Yeah, I'd be happy to if you want me to
summarize it though in thirty seconds. Everyone over the age
of sixty five, people with serious underlying medical conditions that
put them at risk for severe COVID nineteen, like being immunocompromised,
everyone under the age of twenty four months, and everyone
who's pregnant.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
All right, and we can amplify on that, and we
can even get into some of the underlying issues as well.
Doctor Shier Darnell, thank you so much. As always, you
are a very clear and good communicator, and I think
that's what we need clearer here about DOT. Good night,
thanks doctor Drum. When we get back, we're going to
talk about some families who are in jeopardy of losing
(37:39):
their homes because of what's going on with the Sagamore Bridge.
I will explain this is a compelling and interesting personal story.
We'll have a couple, Mark and Joan Handle joining us
on the nine. During the nine
It's nice eyes, Dan, I'm going easy Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Rob, I'm confused. Who are the Yankees they're talking about here?
Is this one of the baseball teams? Rob? It is? Okay?
Good right, okay? Rob is my baseball guy here. Just
check it. Good evening, everybody, just having a little bit
of fun to start the week off in a light. Note.
My name is Dan Ray. Those of you who have
not driven off the road with having heard that question,
(00:29):
I get it. I get it. My name is Dan Ray. Yes,
I'm a baseball fan, There's no doubt about it. And
I will be watching those games tomorrownight, which are at
six o'clock, which means they very well might be over
or at least decided on Monday, Tuesday, and if necessary,
Wednesday before we start nightside. So that is our good
news for me, and hopefully it's good news for you.
(00:51):
Rob Brooks is gonna be here all week. I will
be here Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Notice they didn't mention Friday.
I'm off on Friday night. I have a big event
to attend that I'll tell you about later on during
the week. It's a super secret event, you know how
Bill Gates has these meetings with supersed not that, not that,
(01:13):
but it is about as super insecret as that. Believe
it or not. It is an incredible event that I
could not miss. It's a once in a lifetime event
that I was invited to and I will attend there.
So I will be here for four nights this week,
which means you have four opportunities to talk with me
after the eight o'clock hour. Because of the eight o'clock hour,
(01:36):
we talked to some very interesting guests for eight, nine,
ten minutes and then we move on. My name is
Dan Ray, I'm the host, and as they mentioned, Rob
is back in the control room. So let us start
off with an artist, an entrepreneur, and an author. Boy,
that's a lot of talent there. John Bowerman, John, Welcome
(01:59):
to knights At How are you, sir?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Hi doing good? Dan?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
You are also co founder of something called Stealth Consulting.
If you're anywhere as successful in stealth consulting as President
Trump was with the stealth bombers hitting Iran's nuclear site,
you're a probably pretty successful company. You've done a survey
(02:26):
that finds only thirty percent of employees want to be
promoted into management anytime soon. I'm not sure how I
read that. I'm not sure that's a good thing or
a bad thing? What say you, John Barrowman of Stealth.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Consulting, Yeah, Dan, you know, I think that's a little
bit indicative of the risk.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
I think today a lot of people today are looking
to take on when they're in a position, and they're
not thinking about pursuing a managerial role as much as
they might have in years past, which maybe came with
more prestige. But I really think it comes down to,
you know, if you're if you're finding yourself in a
(03:10):
good position, especially from the employer's side, if you have
someone in a good position, for them to move to
a managerial role is a lot of risk because they
might not find that their other positions still exists, and
so you know, getting them over the fence to take
on a managerial role is a is a pretty big ask.
(03:32):
And and I've found that, you know, when you're approaching
the world like an entrepreneur, you're you're not necessarily having
to take such a big leap, and you know, you
can get more people in your company to think about
going into a managerial role if you start them out
with maybe some smaller projects, let them, let them get
a taste of responsibility before they have to go all
(03:54):
in and take that amount of risk on.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Is this really a problem? I mean, I would assume
that management at some level probably only represents ten percent
of the workforce, or you probably know it better than
I do. What percentage of the workforce across all industries
are technically management.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I don't know the exact percentage, but pretty close to
pretty close what I'm familiar with.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So I always think about things in terms of Major
League Baseball. If I can play baseball and play it well,
I can have a career of fourteen fifteen years in
the big leagues making a bundle of money. The guys
who end up as managers in Major League Baseball are
not the best players. And also the life expectancy, the
(04:47):
managerial life expectancy of a major League baseball player or
football coach or basketball coach pretty limited. And I'm wondering
if people employees are saying, hey, I can Honker Dow
down here, and I can do okay for myself, and
I don't have the phone calls on weekends, I don't
have the responsibility, I don't have to deal with the
(05:09):
crises on Sunday afternoon. I can work one Monday through Friday,
make a good living and not have to worry about
Savaies and Sundays. You think that's it, Maybe.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I think so. I think I think people have lost
a little bit of sight on what being in a
coach And I like that you use the word coach
Tiger's fan. Here we are just in town, so we'll
go on the baseball analogy.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Well, you got they got CORU's brother, Joey's who's the
third base coach, And you got Alex the man of
the Red Sox manager of the Red Sox. And I
guarantee you Alex as the managers, make it more than Joey.
But put that aside, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, And it's you know, I think if you know
when you can when you can show people, especially the
opportunity of a managerial role to be in that coach role,
when you can paint a clear picture about the impact
that they can make versus the role that is to
be done. Yeah, I think you get a lot more exciting,
right because as a coach, you have the ability to
(06:14):
take a group of players and accomplish something for for
a city, for an area, for a lot of a
lot of people. As a player, you have the potential
to be a part of that, but you don't necessarily
have the You're not necessarily in the position to be
quite the same level of a mentor or a developer.
And it's it's kind of unfortunately we're kind of stuck
(06:36):
with the word manager, because really the best managers are
the ones that coach, mentor and develop, not just not
just manage. What's what's going on?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Okay, well, I know, and again just I don't want
to carry the baseball analogy or the pro sports analogy
too far, but the best player on any Major League
baseball team makes a heck of a lot more money
than the manager or the coaches on the team. Same
way in football, et cetera. Occasionally, I guess you might
find them a coach who can make much money. In
(07:08):
business generally, and I know this cuts across. I asked
you before, what do you think ten percent of people
in the workforce are in some sort of management level,
you know, from a general manager right down to a
few other managerial levels below him. If you're the top
guy in one of these companies, you're making big Bucks
making big Bucks. But if you're if you're a manager
(07:31):
or district manager and assistant manager at McDonald's or whatever.
You know, there's different levels of manager. Are they being
rewarded adequately enough? Do these companies start to have to
maybe pony up a little bit more money for the
managers to induce these employees who are good to get
that managerial level and help other employees. Is that the
(07:54):
bottom line here? What's the bottom line? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
I think you're I think you're hitting on something, which
is you know, I believe and have run all the
companies that I've started based on where everyone has the
opportunity to share in the outcome if that outcome is
great for the for the business, so that you know,
you don't you don't have to be in a position
(08:20):
where you're restricted to say a fixed salary.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
You're able to participate in in something greater and I
think you know that could be applied. It's often applied in.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
A in a managerial role or or above, but not
as often in that regular position.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Well, the more people that have skin in the game,
the more successful the project will probably be. John Barrowman,
I appreciate it, Thank you very much. Nice to chat
with you, interesting guy. How can folks find your website
Stealth Consulting Stealth Consulting dot com. I'm going to guess
or is it something else?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Well, yes, I actually uh turning you to not Lost
Starting dot Com. It's where I put together for the
release of my new book, You're not Lost, You're just starting.
You can download. It's a free i'd call it everyday
entrepreneur action guide. So if you're on.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
The fence about getting something done or just getting more ahead,
or even negotiating more at work, I put it all
out there for free for everyone to benefit from. So
it's not Lost starting dot com.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I'm going to write a book. If you're on the fence,
don't go to sleep. Okay, just a thought, John, Thank
you very much. Enjoyed the conversation very much. We'll talk again.
Appreciate it. Thank you when we get back. When we
talk about the loss of a long time listener of
night Side and some of his buddies are doing a
memorial golf tournament in his memory at the Norwood Country
(09:52):
Club on October eleventh, and one of us got pals
called me and said, could we, you know, get a
little publicity I said absolutely. The Paul Mahoney Memorial Golf
tournament's coming up. If you want to play some golf
with a great group of guys, that's coming up. We'll
tell you all about it.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
On the other side of the break, it's nice side
with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I want to welcome Richard Lahamb. Richard sent me an
email of the other day and I responded to it,
and he asked me if I would publicize a memorial
golf tournament coming up at the Norwood Country Club on
October eleventh, in memory of Paul Mahoney. Paul was Paul
from Dorchester to me. He was a caller of many years.
(10:39):
He was a teacher in the Boston Public school system.
He was a coach. He was always had an opinion
and he was able to state that opinion clearly without equivocation.
And just a great guy. And he passed on earlier
this year. Richard Lahamb, thank you for doing this tonight
(11:01):
and thank you for representing Paul in this memorial golf tournament.
How are you doing on this? You need a couple
more golfers to join, Well, we can.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Always use a few more golfers. Absolutely, but Dan, I
want to thank you for letting us come on and
publicize this. It means a lot, especially to his wife, Teresa,
who is just thrilled that you've allowed us to be
involved in your show.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Oh let me tell you, Paul was great. I know
that he was sick and I was pulling for him.
And you lose listeners because you make friends in a
show like this, And to the best of my knowledge,
I never had a chance to shake Paul's hand. Although
being a guy from Dorchester and I also a kid
that grew up in the city myself, we made a place,
(11:48):
We made a play sports kids. Who knows what, But
just tell us what made him in your mind? You
were a close friend and you knew him. What made
him in your mind special?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Well, Paul was an incredible storyteller. His wife and my
wife grew up together, and when I met Paul, I
was captivated. I'm about six or seven years older than him,
but I loved hearing his stories. Not just about school,
not just about refereeing, not just about coaching. He had
(12:23):
a story about anything, and he kept me enthralled all
the time.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
He also really had a connection with his students. In
his student athletes. I just could tell that this was
the type of man, gentleman that you wanted your son
or daughter to be coached by or to be taught
in school by, and that he was reminiscent to me
(12:52):
of a lot of the teachers that I had in
the Boston public schools that bought Boston Latin School. They
would have been of a generation before all came into it,
came into the profession. But he just carried himself in
such a way. He would call in his his his
thoughts were precise, and you knew what he wanted to
(13:12):
talk about. Some of my callers will call and they
can kind of drift a little bit, and we let
him drift a little bit. But Paul always had a
point in the call that he was making, and he
would drive that point home.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
So absolutely, Paul's. Paul's the kids he coached not only
donating to this effort, but they're coming to golf as well.
In fact, one of them, he's probably forty five years old,
gave part of the eulogy at his Mercy mail after
(13:43):
the funeral. Paul affected kids for decades, and he just
he just had a special sense about him and personality
that you could love him him even though you disagreed
with him.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
And by the way, you always knew whatever he called.
I knew what his position was after about thirty seconds
because he would state in very clearly what he felt,
and then he would back up his position whatever the
issue was. Uh, and you know, thirty seconds or forty
five seconds, and then the conversation would ensue. So this
event is this I'm assuming it's a rain or shine
(14:23):
event in October. You're gonna get great. The only problem
in October is when there's so many leaves in the failway,
you sometimes lose the ball. Would you hit it?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Norwa does a good good job of cleaning up the
fairways for Okay, I'm sure he'll be clean that day.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
That's good to know. So that's a Saturday, right, What
time do you tee.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Off Danity October eleven? So we're going to tee off
about nine thirty, but we're asking people to come at
eight thirty so we can register everything, get the payments
we need, hand out, coffee in and the pastries. We
have some snack bags for everybody to take with them
the old water and snacks and what have you. So
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that's at nine thirty, it's eighteen holes. It's one hundred
and fifty dollars per person. They are going to receive
a cat all the games on the course, and one
of the games is a hole in one. And we're
giving away a two year lease on a Mars automobile.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Okay, now that's not a part five five hundred yard hole.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
So that's three one hundred and sixty one hundred and
sixty five yard three.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Oh yeah, that's doable. That's absolutely undoable.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Thistle.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
This is all to benefit the Dana Farmer Jimmy vun
pancratic cancer research. Uh so that's right into a great cause.
Uh and you've got a number here. But even more importantly,
we got an email. And and people they don't have
to have known Paul, have been a student to Paul,
if they're a golfriend, they're looking to play Norwood Country Club.
(16:03):
Uh and and here's some stories and enjoy themselves. It's
easy to do. So what's the easiest way for people?
I know, I got an address here, I got your
phone number. Not going to give that out, but it
looks to me like the email is the is the
easiest way.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yes, I think if you email Mike golf Lally at
gmail dot com or call the Norwood Country Club. Mike
is actually the manager, okay at seven seven eight one
seven six nine five eight eight. Oh. They can let
(16:42):
him know what they want to do and I will
send them the the appropriate documents.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Okay. So it's so it's Mike golf Lally, It's all
Is that all one word?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
All one word, all one word?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Okay, that's not his middle name, but that works. Mike
l A. L. L Y at Norwood Country Club dot com.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yes at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Oh well, okay, right, I'm sorry I screwed that up. Sorry,
Mike golf Lally at gmail dot com. Five O eight Rob,
write these down. Will you have the number for Rob
is our producer five eight seven six nine seven eight
eight Oh and Mike golf Lally at gmail dot com. Rob.
(17:29):
In case anyone calls in during the next half hour,
they can get this information.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I don't know what your availability is on that day,
but I would love to have you, as I guess,
to golf with us or at least come to lunch.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Well, I would love to. Unfortunately I looked at this date,
uh and I'm going to be back on the Cape
with a couple of commitments, so I'm going to have
to put off meeting you sometime until the not your
distant future. Richard, again, please say hey to Paul's wife
and give her a big hug and tell her that
(18:02):
he's remembered by lots of my listeners. And I'm hoping.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Thank you so much. And just one other thing, we're
gonna ask everybody to pray for good weather that ginny.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Okay, Paul will make sure of that. I'm sure he's
in a position of influence at this point. I'm sure.
And it's a great it's a great call, Richard, Thank
you so much. I really enjoyed it. And at some
point we'll meet and we'll tell a couple of Paul
Mahoney stories.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Thank you, my friend, I hope. So thanks Dan.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
All right, good night, Saturday, October eleventh, and Rob has
that information. If you didn't have a chance to write
it down, give him a call at the regular number
at six one seven two ten thirty. There were no
other phone calls this hour, so you can get right
through and Paul will give you rather Rob will give
you that on the Paul Mahoney Memorial Golf Fun and
this golf tournament. It's a great cause he was a
(18:51):
great guy. And if you've never played the course, what
a great And you got a shot at a you know,
you got a chance holding one hundred and sixty five yards.
That's not out of reach. Mazda two year lease. Not bad,
not bad. Movie Back right after the news at the
bottom of the hour, we have two more guests coming up.
We're gonna ask the question why are movie theaters releasing
(19:11):
old movies that we've already seen. There's a reason for it,
we'll explain.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
With Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Joining us now is doctor Indy Draper. He He co
hosts a podcast called Off Script Film Review. He's also
a web content manager at the Metals School, the Meadows
School of the Arts, which is at Southern Methodist University.
It says SMU, I'm assuming it's Southern Methodist, correct, doctor Draper.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
And that's correct.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Okay, So I tend not to go to major movies,
but I had a role in a Emmy an Oscar
dominated movie on air with an IMDb credit reversal of
(20:07):
Fortune with which was a clause from Buelau movie many
years ago. And now movies like Black Swan Jaws are
coming back, according to the New York Times in theaters.
Is Hollywood not making as many new movies? I think
a lot of the movies they're making are not great
(20:29):
movies now. But what's going on? Why are the oldies
but goodies coming back to theaters up on the big screen.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Well, this is an industry that's always in constant change.
Trends come and go, audiences changed, tastes change. You've got
to kind of be able to predict a little bit
and your vector. Right, There's been a big reduction in
TV shows and movies in the last few years, and
so that's created kind of gaps for you know, how
do we feel this content with there's still fifty two
(21:00):
weekends a year. What do we feel with having less product?
And the answer is part of the answer has been
let's use some anniversary screening, let's bring back some classic films,
and they've been doing really well. The Jaws fiftieth anniversary
re release over the summer made about eight billion dollars
opening weekend. It made more than a couple of the
new releases that weekend. So there's still a lot of
(21:23):
demand and interest for some of these classic films.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
So is.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I think of the movies that you know, I think
of Titanic and I think of Good Fellas. Are those
coming back or is it a certain genre that hits
that comes back to the big screen.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Well, some of the big blockbuster films definitely come back.
We're seeing Avatar, the second one, which which was released
a couple of years ago in twenty twenty three, that's
coming back for a release. So things that were big
successes in the past also just things that numerically anniversary
things in their ten, twenty, thirty, forty.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah. So if there's yeah, anniverstrators, if there's a hook.
One movie that I really enjoyed, and a friend of mine,
David Walmart, was the producer Life of Pie It Could.
I would love to see that at a theater. You know,
I've watched it previously, but that's one I would do.
I'm sure you're a film critic, so you know the
(22:26):
movie of which I speak.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
I hope, yes, Yes, I saw it in theater too.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, the kid in the raft with the tiger. I
still don't know how they did it. David Walmart won't
tell me. But that's neither here nor there. I just
movies are different now. It used to be you go
to the theaters. You go to the theater now and
I don't go much, but there's one that I that
I that's very close to where I live, and it's
(22:53):
a whole different experience. They have people, waiters bringing you
your dinner. I have are many? Or am I just
lucky to have one close to where I live? Where
you it's no longer just a pepsi and some popcorn.
I mean though they serve alcohol. It's it's it's becoming
a different experience. Is that something that is that is
(23:15):
growing or is that something that the movie's tried and
now they're moving on to a different a different way
to get people to come back into the theater.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Theaters are definitely investing in a new kind of experience,
and they're trying to add bells and whistles to the experience,
things like luxury recliners, the de box seats that move
and shake bars. Like you mentioned alcohol. The one I
go to has a coffee bar and you can get
lattes and different kind of coffee drinks. But they're trying
to enhance the experience and in addition to you buying
(23:47):
the ticket, and part of that is to get you
to buy maybe a premium ticket to an IMAX or
an XD screening, to spend a little bit more money
when you go.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Well, when you think about it, if you go even
to a Midland rest in the middle of the road
restaurant these days, okay, and it's for two of you,
and if you have a drink and an entre, the
entre is going to be thirty five bucks. You know,
a glass of wine is going to be you know,
fifteen or twenty. And I'm not talking about you know,
New York City here or even downtown Boston. So why
(24:18):
not go to a movie theater and enjoy a classic movie?
I think it's I think you're not gonna You're probably
gonna pay about the same or maybe even a little less.
Am I right on that analysis?
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Right when you compare to other outings for two people
or for a family, it's it's about the same, if
not cheaper. The problem is most people compare going to
the theater with watching at home, and the cost difference
is so huge. And actually that's one of the big
competitions for theaters is streaming. Everyone is like, well, I'll
just get people together at my house on Friday, get
(24:53):
the kids and their friends over. I'll buy snacks and
it'll be less than what it costs to go to
the theater. So that's a big competition for the theaters
these days.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
But it's the same with restaurants. I mean, you can,
you can you know, you cooks, you know, spaghetti, meatballs,
or or to pizza out, and it's you're gonna be
it's gonna be a lot less expensive. But if but
it just seems to me that the theaters, if they
packaged it right and and made the point that it's
it's about the same as going to a restaurant, at
(25:21):
least the numbers that I've seen, and you get the
movie thrown in.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Right, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I just think that the marketing has to improve. There's
this theater near me and it's in the mall. It's
next to a very expensive, high end restaurant, and I
just think that they don't market it. And maybe they
figured by bringing back these these old time movies. What
was what was the most successful of the movies that
(25:50):
I'm going to say they recycled recently. Was had to
be Jaws, I assume.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Yeah, I think it was Jaws. You see some of
these these big ones have a pretty run. I rewatched
Interstellar last year in twenty twenty four for its ten
year and that made think about ten million that weekend.
It's not huge amounts. You're not winning the box office usually,
but it's enough to justify the distribution costs to do
it well.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
If you're making ten million dollars on a movie that's
already been out and is being replayed that million dollars,
it's pretty much pure profit at at that point. There
were so many movies when I always like to look
at movies that I like and say, Okay, what did
it cost to produce? And then what box office did
it make? And there's a lot of movies that don't
(26:35):
make they don't turn a profit.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Yeah, and marketing is so expensive too. Right now, the
kind of conventional wisdom is you need to make two
and a half times whatever your budget is, So a
fifty million dollar movie will have to make one hundred
and twenty five to start getting into profit territory. So
movies really have to make way beyond their kind of
announced budget or estimated budget to see the return on that.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
And a lot of great movies can be made for
heck of a lot less than that too. I realized
that some of the major, major, major, Titanic and all
of that is just millions of dollars to make. But
there's a lot of ten million and fifteen dollars fifteen
million dollar movies which which were great, which were great,
and stand the test of time. All of these movies
that you know, you've you've referred to have stood the
(27:24):
test of time. Thanks very much, doctor Andy Draper. He
is a web content manager at the Medal School of
the Arts as a doctorate in music, specifically tuba. So
you have a doctorate in tuba. Well that's interesting. Thanks
very much for joining us. Never had you on before,
but love to have you back.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Very welcome. Have a great night. When we get back,
we're going to talk about evidence based COVID nineteen vaccine guidance,
because when COVID hit in twenty twenty, ninety nine percent
of the public to get that shot. It's not quite
the same five years later. And we're going to talk
(28:05):
with doctor Shira Derome, chief infection control officer at Tufts
Medicine and hospital epidemiologists at the Tought's Medical Center right
after this quick break on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Delighted to welcome back to Nightside, doctor Shirah Doern. She's
the chief Infection Control Officer for Tuft's Medicine. She's also
a hospital IBID epidemiologist at Tuft's Medical Center. Welcome back,
doctor Doerome.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
Such a pleasure to be back with you. You know, we.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Have talked several times over the years about COVID nineteen,
and now we have the latest discussion that we need
to have about this. I get a feeling that people
are really confused about whether they should get a COVID
nineteen vaccine this fall, more so than ever before, and
(28:59):
there were a lot of people who were confused when
it all happened back in the spring of twenty twenty.
Am I misreading that.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
There has been a lot of confusion. There have been
weeks and weeks of the new formulation were approved, was
approved of the vaccine was approved by the FDA, and
we didn't know what the recommendations are. But now here
in Massachusetts things have become completely clear. Thanks to our
(29:31):
heally and our state Health Commissioner, we actually have some
very clear guidance that we can use going forward into
this respiratory season.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Well, pray tell, let's hear the guidance, because as somebody
who follows the news, to be honest with you, I
don't have a clue what the guidance is.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
Yeah, And it was very confusing because what happened was
the group that normally makes those recommendations, Advisory Committee for
Immunization Practices, that is an external advisory committee to the CDC.
They were supposed to have issued their recommendations in June.
Turns out the entire committee was terminated by the new administration.
(30:13):
They did meet in June, but this didn't make it
onto the agenda this question, and so then that meeting
wasn't going to happen until September, which is very very
late now. As September was approaching, obviously, that's leaked to
here to get the guidelines when the vaccine has been approved,
you know, for several weeks now, so going you know,
(30:34):
leading up until that ACIP committee meeting which happened last week,
we many of us started to become worried. State health
officials started to become worried. That they may make some
recommendations for the COVID vaccine that may restrict access for
people who should get it and people who want it,
(30:56):
and so more Heally and the state Health and stepped
in and they made a couple of declarations. One is
that Massachusetts would have its own COVID vaccine guidelines, and so,
regardless of what was going to happen with that advisory,
committed to CDC last Friday, we would follow state guidelines
(31:18):
and they did release those guidelines right just in time
before the CDC meeting. The second thing that Mari Heally
changed was that pharmacist would be authorized to administer vaccines
based on state guidelines, not CDC guidelines, So that was
a change in the law. And the third thing was
that insurance companies and Massachusetts would cover the vaccines based
(31:38):
on state guidelines.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Okay, So a couple of things here, which to me
is interesting. One. I know what I feel about it, Okay,
I feel some apprehension about it. I don't feel apprehension
about the annual flu shot. I've already gotten my annual
(32:04):
flu shot, the high dose for someone who's on the
wrong side of sixty five. Okay, So I assume you
would advise anyone over the age of sixty five get
your flu shot. There's no downside to that, right.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
But everything has anything can have a side effect.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
But yeah, actually you your arm can be sore or whatever.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
But yep, I.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
Don't know that there are rare there are rare severe
side effects. But the recommendation for a flu shots is
actually that everyone over the age of six months get
a flu shot. Why because we have had last year
we had about two hundred and eighty deaths in children,
and half of those had no underlying medical conditions. So
(32:49):
children and healthy adults do die every year of the flu,
and so the recommendation is to get that flu shot,
even though there is a very rare chance of beer
side effect, and obviously anybody can have a sore on
So the number.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
That that you decided two hundred and eighty children, were
those two hundred and eighty children who were vaccinated against
the flu or with those two hundred a portion of.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
Those did not get the vaccine.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Okay, So that's an important that's an important factor that
I want to underscore that you know, people need if
they're going to take their chances, they need to they
need to do it responsibly in terms of COVID.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Yep, what not as clear cut?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Not as not as clear cut? Is all on two reasons.
One because you know, I've gotten my COVID shot every
year every year and done it right. But I get
a feeling when I walk into supermarkets and I walk
into pharmacies and I'm told, oh, you got a free foods,
a flush, a free COVID shot here, and also you're
(33:56):
going to get a ten dollars you know, shopping spree
or something like that. There's just something about that that
kind of inhibits me. It's almost as if the CBS
is of the world and all of the pharmacies. I
shouldn't focus on CBS, but the pharmacies and the grocery stores,
I'll look at that as another revenue stream.
Speaker 7 (34:20):
Well, you know, there has been a lot of mistrust
about this vaccine for a variety of reasons. It has
been politicized, there has been a lot of misinformation, and
I do agree that we as a country, our health
authorities need to do better to restore trust in this vaccine.
(34:41):
And one of the big complaints that people have, if
they're paying attention, is that the US has been recommending
an annual vaccine for everyone over the age of six months,
like they do for the flu shot, and no other
country does that, and neither does the WHO. And so
the CDC and its advisory committed before the seventeen members
(35:02):
were terminated were actually they were meeting and they were
planning to issue new guidelines that were less broad than
they had been in the past. They were planning to
change from everyone over the age of six months to
get it every year to a more risk based strategy
where everyone over sixty five should get it and those
with underlying medical conditions.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
So they knew, well, that didn't happen, but they knew
that Kennedy Secretary Kennedy was looking to get rid of them.
Why didn't they make sure they issued it even after
they would have been disbanded. Couldn't have they gone ahead,
I mean and said, hey, if we had continued in
our position from which we were terminated, this would have
been our recommendation.
Speaker 7 (35:43):
Yeah, that's a really good point. In the end, though,
that is what the Northeast states ended up doing, what
the Western states ended up doing. So the states have
been creating these coalitions and they've been coming together and
they've been issuing recommendations together also in conjunction with the
American Academy of Pediatrics, the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecologies,
(36:06):
the American Family Practices Associations, and those guidelines are more
risk based and less broad.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Then we should do doctor Jerone. We're running out of
time here, but we should really do this for an
hour and take calls so that people we can't do
a justice in ten minutes. And I just think that
you and I are kind of on the same page here.
And I'm not a medical person, Okay, I have a
pretty good idea about what I'm going to do what
(36:34):
I'm not going to do, But I wanted how to
help my listeners. And if I get to come back
some night for an hour at nine o'clock and maybe
take phone calls and address some of these specific concerns,
I think it would go a long way into clarifying things,
at least from my audience. If we could do that,
I'd love to do it. If you can't because you have,
you know, stuff to do early in the morning, I
(36:55):
will understand. But that's an open invitation if you're willing
to consider it.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
Yeah, I'd be happy to if you want me to
summarize it though in thirty seconds. Everyone over the age
of sixty five, people with serious underlying medical conditions that
put them at risk for severe COVID nineteen, like being immunocompromised,
everyone under the age of twenty four months, and everyone
who's pregnant.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
All right, and we can amplify on that, and we
can even get into some of the underlying issues as well.
Doctor Shier Darnell, thank you so much. As always, you
are a very clear and good communicator, and I think
that's what we need clearer here about DOT. Good night,
thanks doctor Drum. When we get back, we're going to
talk about some families who are in jeopardy of losing
(37:39):
their homes because of what's going on with the Sagamore Bridge.
I will explain this is a compelling and interesting personal story.
We'll have a couple, Mark and Joan Handle joining us
on the nine. During the nine
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