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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Night Eyes with Dan Ray. I'm going easy Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Well, good, good evening everyone. That's a easy for you
to say. Good evening everyone. My name is Dan Ray,
host of Night's Side. Here every Monday to Friday night
from eight until midnight, and we begin another week, and
we will start off with four guests this hour. Pretty
interesting guests actually dealing with veteran suicide, the emergence of
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women's team sports. Also, yesterday was Grandparents' Day. But first
and foremost tonight we have with us very well known
actor who's now doing a little bit of stand up
comedy as well, Jeremy Piven. I'm sure remember Jeremy Piven
from The gold Standard, and I don't know if he
wants to talk about that, but he portrayed an agent
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and now he has people coming up to him at
airports asking him if he would be their agent. Jeremy,
this is a very interesting set of circumstances you'll find
yourself in. How are you this evening? Welcome to Nightside,
Welcome to New England, and welcome to the East Coast
of America. How are you.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I'm great man. I've been doing a lot of stand
up yeah, people. I guess when you play Ari Gold
for a decade and you're in people's living rooms, people
get confused.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
And it's my honor. It's my honor too, as long.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
As you know what they're talking about. Yeah, and that,
of course was a catch phrase or whatever. So you've
been doing this for a while, you came to it
at a very young age, and you're not I mean,
you're still performing, which is really what it is, but
you're performing at a different venue and you're going to
be here in Boston soon, which we're going to talk about.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah, what is the difference.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I mean, again, I'm live every night. I'm not doing comedy.
If I have a bad show, I feel it, maybe
my audience will tell me about it. But if you
don't bring your a game to the stage as a comedian, pooh,
that could be tough.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Right, Yeah, but they're really for me.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
There's nothing better. I want it injected into my veins.
Like you know, I've been on stage since I was.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Eight years old and and we were we were making
people laugh back in the day. And you know, I
started the Pivot Theater and then ended up at Second
City with Chris Charlie in the nineties and you know,
eighty movies, the TV and blah blah blah blah and
meets the Golden Globes and and for me getting up
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on stage and making people laugh, there's nothing better, you know,
I listen, I love playing our gold and playing different
characters that it's incredible. There's tape delay, and you know,
with stand up you you just the ground running and
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it's so fun. And people come up to me afterwards
and they tell me they didn't know I was just funny,
which is a great backhand compliment. But I find it
just to be a compliment because you know, the writing
and the ideas that ever even coming from me, and
it's what I think. It's funding that gets to connect
with people. And the Wilber Theater is one of the
most beautiful theaters in the country. And I'll be there
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on the nineteenth.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, the nineteenth, which is a couple of Friday nights. Henceforth,
is it a one evening event or will you be
there for a couple of nights.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It's one and done. It's a beautiful eleven hundred seat theater.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Don't be.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Just even the VIP may be sold out, but all
that mean there isn't a bad seat in the house. Yeah,
and you will give them some free meet and greets.
So save some money. I'm Jewish. I love saving money.
There's nothing better, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Well, I happen to be Catholic and Roman Catholic, and
I love saving money too. But remember the guy that
found my religion was Jewish. So we all come again
of Jeremy.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And by the way, do you know how you know?
How do you know someone's Jewish? They tell you I
for no reason, like.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I just did.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
We're going to unpack all of this.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, you know, Jeremy, I'll tell you. The signal now
has gotten a little bit better. We almost lost you
there for a second. I don't know if you're near
a window, but that always helps these these I assume
you're on a cell phone really quickly you have. It's
always amazing to me. I've spent my life as a
television reporter for thirty one years for the CBS station
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here in Boston, now eighteen years is a talk show host.
When you were first getting on stage, I was graduating
from law school, so I'm a couple of years older
than you. Basically that's what I'm saying. What has it
been like to spend truly, truly an entire year in
show business. I don't really think of this as show business.
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Certinly when I was a newsreel porter and I think
of it a show business. But tell people what it's
like to be born into show business and to live
to show business life.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Well, it's so interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
And by the way, tell me if if it's a
bad connection, because I'll I'll run around and try to right.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It's right wherever you are right there, freeze, don't move ahead.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Okay, I'm in the middle of the street. It's awkward,
but yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I just car down. If you get hit, get out
of the way.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
John, I'm just gonna play. I'm gonna play through no
matter what insured or not. You know, it's so funny
you say show business. And you know, my parents threw
me up on stage with them. They needed a kid,
and I was eight years old, so they threw me
and John Cusack up on stage and we would alternate
rolls and we didn't know what we were doing, and
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it was so fun, and and we would butcher great
works of art, you know, from a very early age,
and my parents to be honest, didn't know anything about
the business, so there was no business. It was just
we just put these plays on and they cared so
much and they were acting teachers and directors and and
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they's you know, it meant the world to them to uh,
you know, just to nourish the artistic spirit of people.
And all the kids were on scholarship because my parents.
It wasn't about the money. And it's ironic that I
ended up playing Ari Gold and a character where it's
all about the money.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And the money. I know that's not your line, but
that's the same principle right ahead.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, And you know, if you play a character authentically
like I with Ari Gold, and people assume that you
and those are you know, that's you know, your ideology,
that it's all about the money. And I'm really you know,
a stage actor in comic from Chicago, from the Midwest.
So I've been I've been in it. I've been in
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it my whole life. It feels very natural. I might
be actually more comfortable on stage than real life, which
is but that's just the way it is.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Well, there's a lot of pro athletes Jeremy who are
more comfortable during the game than they are post games.
So that makes sense too. You know what you're doing,
you love what you're doing. Why would you be more comfortable?
And when you think about.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
It, yeah, I mean you.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
You log so many hours up there, and and you
you I love it and I and I work hard,
and the harder you work, the easier it looks. And
I just absolutely love it. And my bears only for you.
When I pause the Monday night opener, Oh, there's.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
No such thing as as Monday. That Monday Night football
doesn't strut till next week. I think, Jeremy, if I'm
not mistaken, because no.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Sir, you are completely wrong.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I think you live in a cave in Kabul because
it's on Monday night is on?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well, good good luck with uh with Lilday night football.
And I'll let you go because if I don't, you'll
keep plugging in and and I'll lose more listeners and
I don't want to have that happen. Jeremy Piven at
the Wilbur September nineteenth, Be there or be square, Jeremy.
I enjoyed chatting with you. It's always great to talk
to folks in the entertainment field. And there are so
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many fields within the entertainment community. Real pressure to talk
with to my friend.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Thank you, buddy, I'll see you soon.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Absolutely, thank you much. September nineteenth, Wilber Theater. When we
get back, when again a little more serious, and we're
going to talk about Grandparents' Day, which was yesterday. Now
I'm a relatively new grandparent. I have a handsome young
grandson who's just turned well, he turned three on the
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fourth of July, so he's three years and two months
or thereabouts. And he has a baby sister who now
is in her fifth month of existence, Caroline. So I
am looking forward to talking with our next guest. Particularly.
His name is Ted Page. He's a New York Times
pro New York Times profile writer and of the blog
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The Good Grandpa. But more importantly, he has a book out,
Good Grandpa, Stories from the Heart of Grandfatherhood. If you
are a grandfather, or you may think you may become
a grandfather someday, or you're oh, whatever, you want to
listen to Ted Page. We'll be back on nightside right
after a couple of quick messages. Here on a Monday night.
It is September the eighth, and no, there is no
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Monday Night Football competing with us. This is a much
more interesting program than some NFL game between a couple
of teams that frankly are going nowhere. Back on Nightside
right after this, It's.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Well, yesterday, September seventh was Grandparents' Day. I'm a grandparent.
I'm a grandfather. As I mentioned before the break, three
year old grandson named Benjamin who actually was born in
the fourth of July twenty twenty two, and a beautiful
princess granddaughter, just just a gorgeous, gorgeous girl, Caroline. So,
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having established my bonafide's I want to welcome Ted Page, Ted,
welcome to Night's Side. You have a book called The
Good Grandpa Stories in the Heart of Grandfatherhood. I love
the title.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Oh, thank you so much, Dan. You know that was
a playoff Bad Grandpa, of course, which was the only
thing I could find on the web when I found
out I was going to be a grandfather.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But when is that another Billy Billy Bob Thornton movie.
I remember that he did Bad Santa.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Oh yeah, it's similar. You know, it's just a really
gross drunk you know, grandfather. Yeah, it was Johnny Knoxville
actually played place.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh, okay, fair enough. Yeah, I haven't seen that movie,
and I don't really intend to, but I do want
to probably read your book tell Us How you came
down this, and it's called a lighthearted yet guideful how
to on good grandfather's once background figures, they're becoming emotional
anchors in families, quietly transforming how love, wisdom, and legacy
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get passed down. I'm going to remember that because I
think grandma mothers had much better instinct than grandfathers, and
they get to sort of, I think, take priority, particularly
when when the kittles are young. But my view is
I want to meet them the day they're born.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Absolutely, Yeah, I think things are changing, right, I think
you know, I'm a baby boomer. I was born in
nineteen fifty nine. The grandmothers in my life were, you know,
super involved, and you know, certainly when you know, my
wife and I started having kids, my mother was involved
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in my aunt and so forth. But you know, the
guys not so much, and you know, it was kind
of their father knows bestra The grandparenting was really more
left to the grandmother, Although my experience was a little
bit different. Because I had a very strong grandfather figure
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who was a World War One VET in the World
War two VET. And so when I became a grandfather,
I thought, how do I ride to that level? Like
how do I be the best that I can be
at this? And I just started writing stories about it,
and then lo and behold, you know, through my blog,
the Good Grandpa Blog, grandfather started reaching out to me
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and telling me their stories. And that was kind of
the genesis of the book. Was like bringing together all
the stories and wisdom of these amazing guys who reached
out to me and the others I reached out to
last year so that we can, you know, for once,
tell the grandfather's side of the story and make something
meaningful for you know, grandpa's like us.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Well, I had a set of grandparents. I was blessed
by them. Now that maternal grandmother used to tell us
when we walked in the house, children should be seen
and not heard. The grandfather he worked, He had worked
literally shoeing horses, and when that business wor south, he
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became an engraver. He was quite the artist, and he
taught me how to play checkers when I was probably
six or seven, and of course he would never let
me win, but once I figured out how to win,
I never let him win, and he was very supportive.
He was very supportive, and so I had a great
grandfather figure, and my dad's mother, my paternal grandmother, was
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a great grandmother figure. There was just it's an interesting mix,
you know, because we're all different. You know, if one's
blessed enough to have four living grandparents who they get
to spend some time with, they're not all going to
be the same. They're going to be different, and they're
going to have the strengths and weaknesses. I'm assuming that
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your book will help grandfathers like me become better grandfathers.
I would hope.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
Yeah, it's there are takeaways in the stories. It's all
about storytelling versus sort of a traditional how to book.
So for example, you know, like I have a chapter
that starts with a dog fight, you know, with biplanes
in France in Borajuan, and the American fighter gets shot down.
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That fighter was Clinton Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt's son, But there
was another fighter in the Skuy's that day, but he
was actually taking photographs and that was my grandfather, one
of the first aerial reconnaissance photographers in the world. Right,
It's like imagine being a teenager, you know, me with
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a grandfather who was showing me photographs he took above
the Battle of Verdunn, Right. I mean that makes it
impression on you and you and you were so lucky.
So you knew a grandfather and a great grandfather, is
that right?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
No, I had a grand I had two sets of grandparents,
and I was closest to my maternal grandfather, who you
inherit as I understand that you're head of hair, and
I ended up with a pretty good head of hair.
He had a great head of hair as well, So
I was very I was blessed in that regard as well.
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So we I had. I got to know them pretty well.
I had them until, you know, my early teens, and
so it wasn't as if you know, they were gone
before I had before my memory. But I have great
memories of my my grandfather David, and sounds like very similar.
I was born a few years ahead of you, so
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that you had a grandfather made an impression on you,
and I had one who made an impression on me
at a number of different levels. And you know grandparents,
I mean I'll tell you. We ran around the weekend
with our three year row brants on Benjamin, and it's amazing.
These kids never stop at the age of three. It's like,
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you know, if you get a half an hour nap,
not you them, it's great. And then they wake up
with more energy than before. So it's yeah, well everybody said,
always great you can send them home. Well, when they're
staying over your house, you know on a Friday than
a Saturday night, home is your house.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Yeah, we get to have the fun without all the parenting,
you know what I mean, without all those stresses that
we had when we were young dads. So it is
a different experience. But what I tried to do with
the book was talk to grandfathers from all walks of life. So,
you know Tom Brokaw who wrote The Greatest Generation, you know,
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so I got to up with, you know, meet with
him and and kind of grill him on how does
the our grandkids become the Greatest Generation? And then John Clice,
who had a chance to work with and then you
know NFL pros leaders of the world's major religions. Reggie Williams, Reggie, Yeah,
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Reggie Williams played like fourteen seasons for the Cincinnati Begels.
So I had a great conversation with him. He has
a bunch of grandkids with down in Florida now and
he has an extraordinary life story that you know, his
family was pushed out of the Deep South, uh kind
of you know, chased out and ended up living in Detroit.
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His dad worked in a auto factory, and you know
he went on to eventually get into you know, Dartmouth
playing football. But you know he had a rough time.
Like you know, he had guy from the South who
walked out of locker room because they wouldn't share it
with a black guy. And his dad told him, that's
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your fuel. You have to harness that in your life. Grandpa.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
How tough was it to find broke Off?
Speaker 6 (18:16):
You know, it was tough to connect with every blondy.
I had to have a personal connection with everyone.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
I happened to a writer who wrote about my blog
the New York Times. Happened to teach a big memoir
class at Columbia, and Tom Brokaw's daughter had had her
as a teacher. So it was all through these kind
of connections. That's what it is to connect with the daughter, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, what's what's the the the relationships of six if
you know, you know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody,
and that's what it's all about. People don't realize how
difficult it is for authors, as well as talk show
hosts to to convince people either to sit for an interview, uh,
in advance of a book or on the radio. Your
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book ted is out? Is it out this week? Or
is how long has it been out?
Speaker 6 (19:08):
It was published September second, apparently, and it's now number
one in the grandparent category on Amazon, which is great.
It's for Harden to get out there.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
So it's six days old, is what you're telling me?
Speaker 7 (19:25):
It is?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
It is a baby?
Speaker 7 (19:26):
It is.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, well that's what I'm saying. So it's called Good
Grandpa Stories from the Heart of grand Fatherhood, A light
yet guideful how to on grandfather's once background figures, they're
now becoming emotional anchors and families quietly transforming how love, wisdom,
and legacy gets gets passed down. I'm going to memorize that,
and I'm going to use that the next time that
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my wife says to me, you're not doing this, writer,
You're not doing that. Right, Ted Page. Thank you so
much for your time tonight in best of luck of
the book sounds like a great read.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Thanks Dan so much. I hope it does something great
for family.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I hope it doesn't. I'm sure it will. Thank you
so much. When we get back right after the news
at the bottom of the ar we're going to talk
with Major General Mark Graham about a tough subject and
that is veteran suicide rate fifty seven percent higher than
the national average. And this Wednesday is World Suicide Prevention Day,
so we'll talk about that right after the break here
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on Nightside.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
With Dan Ray.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I'm Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
All right, a serious topic that we want to talk
about is veteran suicide with us as Major General Mark Graham. General.
First of all, thank you very much for your service
in the military, and let's talk. I think people have
heard of this. They need to understand it is a
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serious problem. Suicide amongst veterans. I s at fifty enty
seven percent higher than the national average, and this week
is World Suicide Prevention Day on Wednesday. Welcome sir.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Well, Thank you, Dan, I appreciate it. Thanks for having
me on the show.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
You were more than you were more than welcome. You
were with the US Army Forces Commian Deputy Chief of
Staff retired and the executive director of Vets for Warriors.
I'm very much involved in a charity called Hope for Warriors,
so I'm sure we have similar similar interests. But let's
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talk about the issue at hand, and that is veteran suicide.
I think most of us can figure out why the
suicide rate is higher. What can we do to get
that down?
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Well, there's several things we can do. One is raise
awareness and certainly educate everyone to make sure they know
the signs of suicide. And that's been out for years,
so I think the key is to make sure we
continue to talk and make sure there's access to care
for anyone who needs it. Vets for Warriors and it's
VETS with the Number four Warriors. We hire veterans and
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train them and they provide peer support twenty four hours
a day. It's anywhere anyone in the country. If you're
an activity guard, reserve, or if you're a veteran or
family member, you can call it number live in thirty seconds.
A veteran answer to call confidentially and talk to you
and aren't our goals and no one's alone, because we
want to make sure that everyone out there knows that
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you can call and talk to somebody, don't be alone.
We want to make sure we get you to care
if you need care or we just need to talk.
But the key is let's talk.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
So Vets for Warriors dot org. Guy assume has the
phone number there, but there are some listeners who might
not have access to computers. Do you happen to have
that hotline available that you could give to us?
Speaker 5 (22:56):
I do, it's Vet's the number four warriors dot com.
Uh eight five eight three eight eight two five five.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Okay, I'm gonna read that way back to you eight
five five toll free eight three eight eight two five five.
And it is vets for Warriors dot com. I assumed
it might have been a dot org. You're you're you're
sure of that, right obviously.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure it.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
And we're a non we're a nonprofit.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
You're a non nonprofit. It might be vets for Warriors
dot org. If it is a nonprofit, by the way,
you know.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
It's dot com.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It is, okay, but just still, okay, Well, I'm not
the last thing I'm going to do is contradict the
general I was expect four so but I just want
to make sure we get it right. And uh, I
see it right here. You are correct, General, as I
would expect you to be vets for Warriors dot com.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Has the suicide rate slowed down at all? Obviously? Uh?
You know the the activity and the hot zones in
the Middle East for US tragically ended with Kabul, the
withdrawal from Kabul in twenty twenty three. Has has it?
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Has it slowed down at all? Or is it a?
Is it a? Is it still so far? I don't
want it above the national average. I want it below
the national average. But has it has it dropped down
in recent last couple of years? Or no?
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Well?
Speaker 5 (24:30):
And once suicide's one too many and and it has
come down some over the years, a little bit, but
not nearly as much as fast and that's Lawyers is
part of a coalition called Face the Fight. On your
website is we Face the Fight all one word. We
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Facedfight dot org and it's over turn of the organizations
are coming together and growing and the mission there is
to prevent veterans suicide and to raise awareness in education
and vest wears as part of the Face to Fight
coalition make it a difference with all these organizations coming
together to focus on the energy and the time and
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get the funding to the organizations that are making a difference.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Major General, I'm just wondering. You know, with a lot
of companies now, they do exit interviews and they try
to learn from people either who are retiring, who have
decided to leave the company early, and I guess even
in some cases people who have been asked to leave.
Does the military do any of the branches do sort
of exit interviews? You know, I'm a baby boomer, so
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my time was a long time ago and there were
no such things as exit interviews anywhere. But does the
military do any since this is a problem amongst veterans,
is there any sort of exit interviews that.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Are done well? The units units before you a unity,
they may do that. But the military is a program
called the Transition Assistance Program, and each branch of the
service has a transition assistance program of some kind to
help those that are separating from the military. Whether you're
retiring or you've done your tour, you're getting out and
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I'm going transition to the civilan world, Transition Assistance programs
there to assist them. There's a lot of also nonprofits
and veteran organizations who assist veterans, to include vests for Warriors.
All of our peers have transitioned so they can help.
So you can reach out and go to the transition
assistance program as well. Most installations and services require that
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you attend, and then you can also contact a lot
of the veteran organizations that can assist you as well.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Absolutely so it's vets, the numeral four warriors dot com
and the phone number this helpline if you happen to
be a veteran or a member of the veterans family
and are concerned eight five five eight three eight eight
two five five so let me And there's also a
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donate button there if you'd like to donate and support
a great cause. Let me ask you the tough question
if someone, if a family member has grown to be
concerned about a veteran, can they call that line as
well or or is that not permitted?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Yes, they can call, Okay, you know we don't turn
down any calls. They can call. And the other thing
dan is if someone is suicidal they can call nine
eight eight, So if any of your listeners are struggling
with suicide thoughts now or anything, they can call nine
eight eight and train counselors will answer that call around
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around the nation.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, and that is that's like a nine to one one,
the equivalent of a nine one N eight. That is
a nationwide number no matter where you are.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Great. Our goal at Vester for Wars is to help
individuals upstream. We do get callers that are still and
the practice, but our goal is to get the word
out so they'll call us early on so we can
get them into care. We can help them with resources
they need, whatever they need. Then we follow up and
talk to them as long as they need until they
get into a better place and improve their well being.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Major General again, thank you for continuing your service and
on behalf of the men and women of the US military,
and it is men and women who are dealing with
this issue. Major General Mark Graham, veterans vets for I
lost it here, vets for for the letter the number
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four Warriors dot com. Thank you so much. General. Did
I lose him there? I think I did. Yeah, Okay,
I thought I lost it there for a second. You're
very welcome. General, Thank you much. When we come back.
We're going to talk about the proliferation of women in sports,
sports teams, and sports leagues. Going to talk with a
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professor from end of Clos College. She is a sports
science professor. We'll finish out our four group of interviews
with I'm not going to pronounce your name because could
either be Gentilly or Genteel. We will figure out during
the break the correct pronunciation of her name, and we
will have her back. Right after this quick break.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
We welcome back. We go to talk about women's sports teams.
There's a lot going on in this area for sure.
With us is sports science professor at Endicott College, Dina Gentilly. Dina,
you're a former college women's soccer coach. Which Whi'd you
coach soccer in college?
Speaker 5 (29:46):
So?
Speaker 7 (29:46):
I coached at Springfield College when we were a Division
two institution and at Endicott College for eleven years.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Oh okay, okay, So you then knew my great friend
Dick Wilie, the president of Endicott College.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
Well, he hired me, took a chance on a twenty
three year old and I've been at ENDICAPA thirty two years.
So I owe him my professional career.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
GAT A great friend, a great friend. As a matter
of fact, I did the I always like to remind people,
I did your commencement address at Endicott in two thousand
and nine. That was the weekend that he ripped his
knee and he stood on stage with me shaking hands
of every graduate. He was in a lot of discomfort
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and had surgery the following the next Monday morning. So yeah,
I'm a big fan of Endicott College. Know a little
bit about women's sports, but there's a Obviously, the w
NBA is the most successful women's sport today, I would say,
but you have professional soccer coming on board. I think
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that there's some talk about women's flag football, a league
in that regard women's tennis, which is not a team sport,
but women have been great tennis players, great golfers. This
is an area of your field of work and field
of study that is literally growing by leaps and bounds.
Speaker 7 (31:18):
It sure is, and I think we're at a point
where women's sports really doesn't need defending anymore. We really
need to continue to feed the entities that continue to
expose women's sports to girls and to boys. And I
think one of the things that we're seeing today with
the WNBA, we have the Caitlin Clark effect. No question,
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she's been a champion for for that league, for basketball,
for sports in general, but there were thousands of female
athletes who came before her. But the wonderful thing is
that we're here. We're at a point where we have
the perfect storm with social media, with more girls participating
in sport than ever before. I think for decades women's
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sports was just underfunded, underpromoted, and undervalued. And here we are,
and we have a chance to truly be game changers
for boys and girls, for men and women. And sport
is entertainment at the end of the day, and I
do believe the w NBA is doing probably the best
job of entertaining its fans in person and as we
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watch on TV.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Well, the w NBA, as you know, sort of plays
in the spring summer, kind of like the off season
of the NBA, but there's soon to be a women's
basketball league for the winter. A lot of the female
basketball players over time have had to go overseas to
play during the winter to make a little little more money. Okay,
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hopefully that will will even out. But there's a new
women's basketball league that I'm very familiar with with called Unrivaled.
Are you familiar with that group?
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Very familiar with Unrivaled in fact that I developed a
lesson plan for other sport management professors to utilize in
their classroom because the league is not only timely, but
their valuation I believe is up to three hundred and
fifty million dollars to date with their investor groups that
they have, which also adds to the reason why we
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should be supporting women's sports. Other pro athletes, men and
women are investing in women's sports, and Unrivaled is leading
the way and leading the charge in that way.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, and the company that is leading the charge is
bestmer Venture Partners, And my daughter is one of the participants.
In matter of fact, she's quoted today Serena Williams has
invested one hundred I believe it's one hundred million dollars
in the league. I'm not sure the amount, let me
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strike that. But there's a big story today on CNBC
Sports in which my daughter has been been quoted, which
makes me very proud, and uh so, it's it's just timely.
She kind of echoes what you said. She's quoted at
CNBC today saying, we always look for category defining businesses
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with generational tailwinds and really audacious founders who kind of
have who kind of have that product hard to fit.
We felt like we found that with Unrivaled. So it's
it's great that you're aware of Unrivaled and you're you're
going to have a subject. Here are kids on college
campus up at Endicotta. I guess they probably want to
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get into Professor Gentilly's class.
Speaker 7 (34:44):
Listen, the doors are knocking down to get into my classroom.
But we do yet an energize. We are energized in
our classroom because I bringing that bring in the timely discussions.
We just we just spoke about the Taylor Swift effect
in the NFL, and I'm sure many people were rolling
their eyes when we started to talk, but in fact,
it is entertainment. It is about selling tickets, it is
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about selling the merchandise. And to get back to Unrivaled,
they broke down the game of basketball into three v
three yep, and it made it so much more exciting
and the end of the game, the way that the
winners are are crowned is also very different than any
other way that we're watching basketball. So when you have
two w NBA stars who are leading the charge, and
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you have so many superstars playing with the sponsorships that
are so visible, coupled with that social media piece, it's
a formula for success.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Well. And again, of course there's so much television time.
All of these sports networks are always looking for new
and different sports. But there's nothing wrong with you know,
the traditional basketball and hockey and baseball and football, and
as I say, I believe that some women's flag football
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that is going to be out there at some point soon.
So yeah, you're gonna you you are going to be
well sought after, professor. Again, thank you for your career.
Springfield College is a great school that has produced coaches
and teachers for decades. So I don't know if you're
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from Western Massachusetts, but you found a great a great
undergraduate program at Springfield College. I'm very familiar with that program,
and of course at Endocott College. I happen to think
the most beautiful physical campus anywhere in New England are none.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
I agree, Icaus. Once you visit, there's no way you're
not attending that institution. So Endcock College has done a
great job with our internships, our classroom support, and obviously
our physical plant is is unbeatable.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Sounds sounds great. Professor Dina Gentilly, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Professor Gentilly, thank you very much for having me.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
You're welcome. When we get back, We're going to right
after the nine o'clock news talk a little bit about
the mayor's race in Boston tomorrow. I'm going to have
Spencer Kimball with us. He is a poster at Emerson
College and produced on Friday a poll for the Boston
Globe which has a lot of people talking, some actually surprised,
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and we will you want to talk about the Boston
Mayor's race, you can join us next hour and man
perhaps talk to the polster himself. Back on night's side,
right after the nine o'clock news