August 19, 2025 • 41 mins
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Following an Alaska meeting between President Trump and Russian Pres. Putin, Trump says he’s setting up a second meeting between Putin and Ukrainian Pres. Zelenskyy. Will anything be accomplished because of the meeting? Can Russia and Ukraine find peace and put an end to the war? Russia appears to be taunting Ukraine in a new viral propaganda video that shows a Russian military vehicle flying a U.S. flag. Political expert Dan Snell joined us to discuss.
Following an Alaska meeting between President Trump and Russian Pres. Putin, Trump says he’s setting up a second meeting between Putin and Ukrainian Pres. Zelenskyy. Will anything be accomplished because of the meeting? Can Russia and Ukraine find peace and put an end to the war? Russia appears to be taunting Ukraine in a new viral propaganda video that shows a Russian military vehicle flying a U.S. flag. Political expert Dan Snell joined us to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm gelling you Boston's
Dach Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Brady for Dan. Dan will be back soon. We're talking
about US foreign policy when it comes to Russia Ukraine.
We have a special guest, Dan Snell, who's seems like
an excellent guest. My first time working with you, Dan,
but boy, you seem great.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
And we have yeah, enjoined, we have full lines.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We we gonna go to Geo first because we promised.
Gio said he had twenty questions. Can he keep it
till like too? And what we'll do to save time is,
rather than both me answering and I guess answering, direct
them to the guests and see what he thinks, and
that will get us to the callers. Quicker to you folks. Quicker,
So Geo, let me hook you up. You are good
(00:44):
to go, Geo.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Okay, Dan, could you give me one sentence about your background?
He did in the beginning, but as Dan give him, well,
I've only been listening for the last fifteen or twenty minutes,
so sure I missed. Sure I know well who Dans
or what his background is. I want to talk about
something that's relevant to Dan's knowledge. Okay, Well, you know,
(01:08):
I am a fan of Ziggler and he was a
mentor of mind. He said, you can have everything you
want in life if you just help enough other people
get what they want. And as a quote, a washing
is the person I'm familiar with zig Ziggler, I am
familiar with CIA white papers.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
I am familiar with a.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Langley Field in just outside of Washington. And by the way,
Europe is very unhappy with our participation in Ukraine because
for the last thirty years Russia has been selling them
gas through those pipelines for fifty percent off of the
world price. And since we reacted to by using Zelenski,
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who is put in the presidency by CIA activities and
his father. They came to know him through his father,
who is in charge of cyber for a rogue element
in the CIA at the University of Kiev. But anyway,
since Oliver North, the CIA has been taking gas from
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the pipelines. The pipelines go through to Europe. The meters
justify at Europe, they justify going into Ukraine, and they
always lose ten or fifteen or twenty percent against the
contract that although Ukraine is being paid and has been
paid for forty years to manage the pipeline so this
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doesn't happen. Every five years they renew the contract and
Russia has to write it off.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
So the bottom.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Line water bottom line is Europe is upset with Oved
without being involved.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
What we did is we have a new Louisiana company
owned by our oligarchs and it does liquefied natural gas.
And the minute he invaded, we sent turned around three
tankers going to South Korea and Taiwan and someplace else,
and we sent them to Amsterdam and Europe refused them
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because it would have increased what they're paying to heat
their homes and run all of their infrastructure by a
time a factor of four. So if every homeowner in
Europe was paying one thousand dollars for their electricity last
three years ago, they have been paying four thousand dollars
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every homeowner ever since. And so they're not as happy
with Us as they were satisfied with Russia. Russia has
never made an attempt to invade them. All they're looking
for is someone to solidify the pipelines, and Trump is
in the process of doing that by negotiating with them.
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And if they give him five percent of the overhead profits,
he will hire europe European troops or UN troops to
manage the pipelines that go through that country, and then
we will manage the North Sea pipeline. And all of
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these pipelines are not owned by Russian government, their German
oligarchs and Russian oligarchs. Gasprom is a private, for profit company,
so it's a good place to stop.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
So for the sake of finances, we throw Ukraine and
their people under the bus and just say goodbye to
a sovereign country. I mean, maybe there's a good trade off.
Thanks a lot, Geo, what do you think, Dan.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, well, I think jail sounds like I like it
because he's engaged. The I of winsome stands for be interested,
and he's certainly interested in what's going on. That's what
more American citizens should be like Geo and pay attention
because lots of times, well I read it on the internet,
so it must be true. People listen on social media.
They just believe something. And these days with AI, you
(05:17):
don't really know. You got to really verify, you got
to really don't just immediately trust. But what Geo was saying,
you know, the key short words for that is follow
the money throughout the history of politics, sadly follow the money,
and the money drives things. I mean that affects this
whole natural gas thing. I live in Kansas, and in
southwest Kansas there is a little town called Hugoton, Kansas,
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once known as the natural gas capital of the world.
Now it's just the natural gas capital of the United States.
But they went from booming and all types of big
companies coming in there too. During the last administration, things
didn't go like they wanted because of some of the
policy changes, and asked it's something we should as America
take advantage of. But sounds like GEO did a great
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job doing his homework and that you.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Know, they might explain to a point Germany's hesitance. You know,
they didn't get right on board with sending aid. They
you know, they kind of dilly delied around for a while.
But that was really good Geo, Thank you very much.
Now all the way to Sante Oh. In a moment,
we go to San Antonio, but first it's Edwin Worcester.
(06:26):
I'm trying to get to. There are still four people
that I need to get to, so let's all be
that tried to be succinct.
Speaker 7 (06:34):
Hi, Riley. I guess my comments would be colored by
the fact that I'm sixty years old. I can't think
of a single big foreign policy success in my lifetime
that the United States has had, you know, militarily, and
so I guess what I would do, and I'm not
really I don't. I don't follow what Trump is trying
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to do. I think he's become too invested in just
getting a deal done rather than what, you know, the
substance of the deal is, which given that he's got
a commercial real estate background, doesn't really surprise me. That's,
you know what, what I kind of expect from somebody
like that. But what I would do is basically say
to Russia, We're going to give you two options, and
(07:20):
you can pick either one. You can either withdraw from
all the territory you've taken, other than Crimea because Crimea
used to be Russian territory until nineteen fifty seven. So
I'd let them hang on to that.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And we'll get I hate that.
Speaker 8 (07:34):
I hate that, Well, well, I think you got to
got to give them. You've got to give them something
to back off, and that would be a concession. And
I would say, then we will we you and you
the Russians, and we the Americans, will give Ukraine the
same status that we both the USSR and the US
agreed to give Austria after World War Two, which is
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they're not disarmed. They have an army and they have
an air force, but they can't join in any international
military alliance and they can't have foreign military forces on
their territory. That's option number one. If you want to
take that, that's option number two. I'll call the nuclear option,
and that is Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons based
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on an agreement that Russia made to respect its territorial integrity.
You Russia broke that agreement.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
So what we will do is we will rearm Ukraine
with nuclear weapons. We're going to give them back the
nuclear weapons that they gave up in the nineties, and
then you can take your chances with them and see
what you want to do. So you pick, you Russia,
you putin pick which of those two you want, and
if you don't pick, we're going to go with option
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number two.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Wow. Pretty interesting stuff. One thing that I don't know
if the Russians are even considering. Even if they take that,
it could still end up being there Afghanistan. I mean,
they could be guerrilla warfare going on and on and
on and bleeding them dry. And they they're already pretty
exhausted as I myself don't know how long that the
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Russia can keep this up, especially now that Ukraine is
taken out infrastructure, oil refining capability a lot like up
to twenty five percent already, that's a significant thing. I
don't know how long they can hold out. And I
think if our administration will stand strong, that they might
have to cave in. If they knew that we weren't
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going away, they might cave dan.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, I think one of the things that it's kind
of been I'm surprised it hasn't been discussed. But if
you remember, things happened so quickly. You know, it used
to be news cycles for every three or four days.
Right now it's every three or four hours. It's Donald Trump, right,
something's always happening. I mean, which stay tuned, it's going
to be in three hours overnight. He I promise you'll
be on truth, social opening up something else. However, right
(09:57):
back to my point a little add but remember the
mineral Rights deal. Remember how he made the big thing
about signing the mineral rights deal and that the United
States would then be invested with companies being involved in
our citizens being there. Remember that, and we said, hey,
because we're going to have that at stake, We're not
(10:17):
going to let anything happen to you. So I don't
know if it's such a huge thing to not join NATO.
As long as as it's well known that, hey, we
have American citizens there now, corporations and companies in this
mineral rights deal in Europe will be there strong, so
the whole land. You know, Trump, as a caller mentioned,
you know, he's a real estate guy, likes to talk
(10:39):
about the real estate. He called crimea beachfront property. He's
a witty guy. But they have to decide that and
not both both sides aren't going to get everything they want.
I mean, Zelensky, I admire him for his strength, and
he's wants to say I'm not going to give this
up and putin wants and once and once he wants
at all. He wants to ask for it all. So
(10:59):
some where they have to get both sides have to
get about seventy percent and walk away in some form
of win win. But I believe that the United States
maybe this mineral rights deal. And if we don't stand
strong with Europe and say we will protect Ukraine as
a sovereign nation, then we will have lost the admiration
(11:21):
of the world. You know, President Kennedy one of my heroes.
Our callers said he was sixty. I'm going to be
seventy in December, so I've been around, but John F.
Kennedy was my hero. Covered my book. You know his quote,
the energy, the faith, the devotion which we bring to
this endeavor will light our country and all who serve it.
And the glow from that fire can truly light the world.
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And in this case, hearkening back to the President from
your state, the glow from what could happen if we
get this done will show the world again that once
again America is the shining city on the hill.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I'm going to ask this, but I'm not going to
ask for an answer right away. Think about this, and
everybody an answer. It's part of your question and answer.
Ken Ukraine went without the US. That's a you know,
pretty yes or no answer. Now, we traveled to San
Antonio and Dave I San Antonio.
Speaker 9 (12:15):
No, Ukraine cannot win without the US, and that war
is not Trump's war, that's wars Obama's and o'biden's war.
When Biden Obama financed that able to goal coup in
the Ukraine, then afterwards all hell's broken loose ever since.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
That time, that's come up, the coup, the coup, Dan,
can you talk about that.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
Here?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Exactly what the caller was talking about, may be repeat
it please?
Speaker 9 (12:48):
And I also know one thing that Zelensky has passed,
the law that says my people can't speak Russian, and
my people can't go to the Russian Orthodox Church. They're
illegal in there. And also an election area that's out
of question. And I as far as Trump inviting Putin
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to America, as if that's Putin's advantage. We invited Putin
to a land that we took practically took off the
Russians to get them out of debt a long time ago.
They cast Stewart's Folly. But the Russians were so darned
deep a debt, and we said, okay, we'll buy Alaska
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for that about and we got a very rich, beautiful
piece of land just to get them out of debt.
And then when Putin comes over to Alaska and so O'donald,
so he wanted to show Putin, how about his gun case?
Had them planes flying right over his head? No, yeah,
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that was no, that was no advantage for Putin.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I don't think he'll legitimize an enemy like that and
allow him to visit yourself without getting something in return.
Speaker 9 (14:06):
Well, we're getting something in return. And all I'm saying
is money talks and Bulman here walks, walks, and all
these people making comments about Trump. This is that these
are those.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Made movements about the president other than in the in
the proper context of this conversation, all the.
Speaker 9 (14:30):
Proper context, they don't know what they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Okay, that looks what a good jumping off point that
was right there. I'm not exactly sure what there was
a response to there. Uh Dan snow anything.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah, Well it is interesting. You know, the history is
seven point two It is kind of funny the Seward's folly.
He talked about buying Alaska very much. It's seven point
two million dollars. I didn't realize that they were in
big debt, so, uh, you know, maybe we could sell
it back to Russia for fifty trillion dollars. A wee
could get out of our national death. I'm joking. I'm joking.
(15:07):
I don't want Alaskan's listening to be mad at me.
But I just think that you know, the caller, you
could tell he's a patchnick guye, and we have that
in America. I just believe we need to be able
to agree to disagree without being disagreeable. And that's part
of what I think one of the big things that
this president should try to shift and do and pivot
is try to unite the country because we're so divided
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and I don't like to see that.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Okay, more in a moment on WBZ Night Side with
Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Let's get right to the guests and the callers there again,
if you just John Guess, we're talking about how you
feel about America's foreign policy in the case of the
Russian Korean War. And next it's Lynn, Joe and Lynn.
You're on with rather Jay and Dan Snell direct your
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Dan saves time. How you doing, Joe?
Speaker 10 (16:02):
Hi, thank you Jay for taking my call. You're a
little distorted, but that's okay. On the radio, and okay,
on the phone, my friend and I from Brighton, we're
talking about this. We feel Trump should not be involved.
He should have given him a choice to settle it,
and just say because he promised in the election, and
I'd like your take, Dan, that he would not get
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involved in Kennedy did say, you get involved with entanglements
and foreign powers. This is what happens. We shouldn't have
gotten in there and we shouldn't be dealing with NATO.
Biden did force I think for you force Ukraine or
something to get into NATO or something like that, and
that's how this whole things started. Like your comments, please, thanks.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Dan, Yeah, Joe, I you know my course.
Speaker 9 (16:52):
I go back.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I'm sitting around the kitchen table with my dad, a
World War two veteran. Kind of chokes me up just
think about it, eating ice cream at night. Were talking
about patriotism and love of country and America and who
we are. And it's just my belief. And I still
believe in the recent polls I mentioned earlier, if you
were with us, but now seventy three percent of Americans
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overall and now fifty two percent of even the Republicans
believe we should stand with Ukraine. And I simply believe
that for America to continue to be the country in
the world that people look to as a shining example
that we need to stand strong and not let a
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bully take out a smaller country.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, there's one thing we haven't really addressed, and that
is no one's really taking Ukraine and their will into account.
They may not. They're probably not going to agree to
something that's really super distasteful, and you can't blame them.
What if some third you know, what if what if
the Netherlands to the founding fatherist. You know what, We're
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gonna make a deal for you. You we wanted to
give into the English and you know, you get to
keep New Hampshire and that's it. What would they have said?
Let's go exactly, Let's go from Matt and Brighton. How
you doing, Matt?
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Okay?
Speaker 11 (18:18):
You know, you know, uh, first of all, I appreciate
you taking my time to make the call. I have
an idea of the answer to this. I just want
to ask the guests, and I mean it's respectfully. Do
you know how much of Obama gave in foreign aid
to Russia and Russian causes even though it was not
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an under tax payerade.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
I do not.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah, I've seen that. I've seen that number, and it
was surprising and it sounds like you may know it,
so you're you can enlighten this, but it was kind
of shocking that we did give a lot of the
dollars to Russia. You never know what programs for, the
what and the why, but you know the answer to that.
Speaker 11 (19:02):
So absolutely, I don't want to make it seem like
in any way that I'm attacking you with that answer question.
I just want to make a principal point that there's
something that I will give the answer. I believe it
was seven hundred and it's still one hundred given I
think because they claimed I think it was seven hundred
and fifty billion dollars or million dollars per year.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
I will have to.
Speaker 11 (19:26):
Look back, and the site is not sourceable because when
I looked it up, it is saying that it's not
American taxpayer dollars, it's money to du back to them.
But that is roughly the number under the year that
when Obama was in power, and I want to say
it's the latter half of the two that seven hundred
and fifty million that went.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It was money to do back to them. It was
their money already.
Speaker 11 (19:51):
That's what they claim well, this is where it will
get me a little political that that that was the claim.
That was not tac parade, and it was I need
to be back to them, yes, under undue dollars. That
was the way that the Obama administration I think portrayed.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Does that have any effect on this situation even though
no one here is picking on the current president at all,
as you may have noticed, and so I don't know
if you need he needs to be defended by appointing
to a president on the other side that also did
something that you find distasteful.
Speaker 11 (20:27):
I do not see you, you know, Putin is somebody
who is a person that should be defended getting you know,
large amounts of money. I don't think Donald Trump in
our president, although I can support him in many ways,
I do is giving anything right necessarily picking you know,
he'll kiss every planting he can at this point to
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get just thus hands up. But with that said that
the point why I said that was because Donald Trump
and our president can be condemned for what he needs
to be, but we should recognize where else this has
started and originated from. And we know with Hillary and
what she did with Uranian.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
But I'm not going to go keep her into that
is that we promised. Well, I guess to go into
the personal stuff. Okay, thank you so much.
Speaker 11 (21:19):
I appreciate Hey, I appreciate you, and I hope I
didn't in anyway us seem disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Not at all, Matt. We appreciate you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
All right, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Anything to add to that.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Well, you know that there it was that we talked
about a little earl is follow the money lots of times.
If you follow the money in some of this world
trade and things that are going on, it's always, uh,
you get your eyes open to some things. And so
Matt had a good point of tracking. I think the
money he was talking about was seized.
Speaker 9 (21:49):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
You know, from time to time America will seize the
holdings of olive arts or or Russian holdings, or China
holdings or different things, and then they are ran. And
then that happened, and then the money goes back, and
then the word, without being properly filtered, gets out that
we're giving billions of dollars to a country when it
was perhaps their own. Now should we have kept it
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or not because of the sins that they did in
war or whatever? They did to humankind. Maybe so, but
that's not for me to decide out of Kansas right now.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Okay, we do have a brief break here, and on
the other side of this, I'll go right to Dan
with this question. Think about a concise answer for this.
How does it benefit to you in the US to
a nable No, Actually, let me change the question. How
will it affect the US if Ukraine capitulates and you
lose a substantial territory, let's say the industrial part and
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a significant part of the agricultural part. How will that
affect the United States? Should we care at all? Why
should we care at all? And then we'll go to Stephen,
Bill Rickett and Daniel and Worcester and you folks can
answer that one too or ask your own question.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Coming up on WBZ, you're on Night Side with Dan
Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Ran the j for Dan. Dan will be back soon
and we're with Dan Snell, political commentary and expert. Asked
him a question before we left. Then we'll get to Stephen,
Dan Steven, Yeah, Daniel, and Worcester. Dan in Kansas for you,
how will it affect the United States if Russia wins?
(23:31):
Pretty outright and gets everything they want, like about three quarters,
say half the important half of Ukraine. How does that
affect us, both both financially, geopolitically. Others are watching, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah, I think it's very important to Donald Trump, especially
because he does pride himself part of the deal, being
a deal maker and getting things that he wants. Some
of that land in the north, I mean Crimea. As
we've discussed, it's probably something that I I wish that
Ukraine could get some way, they could get a portion
of that because that's pretty important as its access to
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the sea. But I hate to see them lose all that.
But there is agriculture land and mineral rights and manufacturing.
There's important things in that land along the north. And
so Donald Trump needs to stand strong with Ukraine in
that because if he doesn't stand alongside Zolensky, even though
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he's trying to broker the deal on both sides, but
he's given in enough in conversation and words and deeds
and compliments and buddying up to Vladimir Putin that it's
time to now show in the final the final days
that things that are important to the United States, we're
going to stand with so that land, with the manufacturing
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and the agriculture and the mineral rights. We need to
make sure that Ukraine keeps.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
It all right. And I want to respond to my
own question, and I'm going to play the long shot.
This is not the popular view, but I am wondering
if perhaps Ukraine could when it couldn't make Russia go away.
And for one, let's take a look at Afghanistan. Afghanistan
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was not a real powerhouse and that that busted them.
And Ukraine is, with its allies in Europe, even more potent.
So and then Russia's diminished, extremely diminished state, I'm not
so sure that this might not take them down the
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same road as Afghanistan. But you know, I do admit
that's a long shot. But if it were like three
to one, that's where I'd put my money. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Well, you know, it's not such a long shot because
I know it was asked earlier and one of the
callers said, no way, could they not win. They could
not win without the United States. And I don't know,
you know, if you look at when Ukraine was fully ammunition,
when they got the ammunition and the rockets and the
missiles from the United States and Europe really didn't have
a hand in providing them that they were really making moves.
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And I was shocked at how strong Ukraine was taking
back land and some of the things. You know, they
did some things with some drones that were that shocked
the world in the way that they attacked. So I
think you could be right in that if something broke
down here and Europe fully got behind, fully got behind Ukraine,
and Donald Trump even halfway because he had to stand
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up to putin in order to keep the honor of
his presidency, I think Ukraine could make a surge and
gain back some of that land. And so I believe
in the resolve and the resilience. It's difficult to see
their country being destroyed, but I think if they can
get people, they can they can win back land if
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they get the weapons.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
And by the way, even if Russia got the good
part of Ukraine, was it worth it? Like a huge
segment of their young male population gone, their their economy gutted,
their military exposed and gutted. Was it worth it? No? Also,
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two new NATO members, one on their border. How did
that work out for you guys?
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Not great?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Especially if this was supposed to be to keep Ukraine
off their border as a as a NATO member. Okay,
let's go to Stephen Bill riccahaih.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Hello, I you already said it. You know the point
that you know the you know, Russia is losing a
million or the young is like the new generation and
the economy is getting bad. But one thing I do
think about as far as Donald Trump, uh, the president,
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he's he's looking at this as a real estate transaction
that he used to and that's why saying that he's
not using his you know, as far as political and
he has to look at that geopolitic because Russia won't stop.
(28:21):
And first of all, Ukraine as fart very high the
dumb Bass region, and he wants that for free. He
wants that.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
Now with.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
What he already get Putin, and then now he wants
Ukraine to give him dumb Bass region. And I think
that should never happen because I just think that what
we look at like Donald Trump, he is more afraid
of Putin than our Supreme Court. And that's what pissed
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me off.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
All Right, thank you very much, Steve, I appreciate it. Yes,
we'll go to Daniel and what's sense? Since he's there,
how are you doing, Daniel, I'm.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
All right, all of a suddenly when you went silent,
can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yes? We can?
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Okay, Now if I may begin by first of all,
you know, just you know, warning you that you're my
mother's baby. Turn turned on the radio and I and
I and I heard you talking about somebody saying about,
you know, all of the money. So I thought that
I had to say something. You know, I'm I'm you know,
I'll be three next week, but I but I'm seventy
(29:36):
two right now. So I wanted to say, uh, it's
not just follow the money. We must My mummy told
me that we must begin with the truth and whichever
away the truth follows, which have the courage not to
not to not disrespect. That is why I would say
right now that the President of the United States, he's doing,
(29:59):
you know, a beautiful thing to try and get to
fighting neighbors to make peace, which is a very big
difference in my opinion, from where he was in his
first you know, presidency term, where he was acting like
like like me at three years old, you know, very
(30:20):
tun from me. So that's the first thing. But following
the money. I want to say, when you follow the money,
please pay attention to the truth, because I'll give you
an example. We hear so often about the crates of
money that president former President Obama gave back to Iran,
but nobody ever says that that was Iranian money that
(30:42):
I had been taken when you know overseas in the
Swiss banks by the by the Shah who had been
made by the who had been allowed to really exploit
and corrupt Iran after Iran tried to be democratic. Follow
the unit the States example, in the years that are
born in nineteen fifty three, uh, and the guy and
(31:06):
then the guy who was who had been elected president
ended up being overthrown by the United States. So the
United States is wonderful when they are true to the
spiritual thinking of the of the founding fathers. But when
they when they go on assassinate the president of the
first Prime Minister of the Congo, Patrician Mumba, who then
a university is in Kiev, in Russia, in the Sovit
(31:30):
Union in what is now Ukraine. Uh, something is wrong there.
So you know, we can be good as long as
we are too legged human beings. We can be good
and if we are not good, we should we should
be told why we are not good.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
All right, that's perfect, Thank you very much, well said.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, good word.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I want to make sure Daniel that you get to
plug books or anything you're doing. I mean, you did
just such a kindness coming on. I want to make
you as you will. What do you what do you got?
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Well, you were you were so that was a Daniel caller.
You're surrounded you got Dan Watkins in the newsroom there,
and you're standing in for for Dan Ray as a host,
and you got a Dan guest. So you're just surrounded
by Dan's and you know what I.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Had I have for separ Dan, Dan noodles.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, listen, it's been great to be if you really
have enjoyed it. Bradley and uh.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
The Winsome The Winsome Candidate is a book really to
try to encourage people a kind of a hope and
how to. It meets them at the corner of hope
and how to how to hope for a better way
to be a leader, and it gives them the how
to break the word down into an acronym wins be willing.
The eye is be willing that the eye is be
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interested in, be a nurturer, s be a solutionnaire. Oh,
be optimistic, m be mindful, and last the e be engaging.
As you can go, you get the winsome candidate or
the wins Wayon or Barnes and Noble whatever. But the
most important thing I think for people listening, I guess
maybe as we're winding down here is you know what
my dad told me when we sat around that kitchen
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table eating ice cream. In fact, Ronald Reagan the cover
of my book, I quote Ronald Reagan as well as Kennedy,
the two people I admired that all. Ronald Reagan said,
all great change in America begins at the dinner table.
And I just would encourage your listeners to talk to
their families, their children about what's going on in America
and not let it be a fight like Thanksgiving dinners
(33:31):
can sometimes be. But talk about how to make this
place we call home better. But my dad said this
to me, and it's stuck with me. And he said,
when you see something that needs to be done and
no one is willing to do it, stepped forward and
be the leader, son.
Speaker 9 (33:49):
And that's you know.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
That is stuck with me all my life because whether
it's a piece of trash in the street that nobody's
willing to pick up, or the bully that's pushing somebody
around that you go and stop them, or the United
States of America says to Russia enough Ukraine is a
sovereign nation. When you see something that needs to be
done and nobody's doing it, stand up and be the leader.
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So I hope that President Trump does that. All your
listeners are listeners here tonight. And I've just had such
a great time fun taking the calls and everything, and Bradley,
you're just a fun guy to be with, and God
bless you all.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Well, thank you very much, and Dan Ray, thank you
for sharing this guest, Dan Snell, I appreciate it. Take care,
all right, all right, there's one thing that I wanted
to share that we did not go directly to this,
but it's about the culture. You wonder, why does the
why are the people of Russia not revolt? Because this
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is affecting them considerably. Their airports gets shut down, when
any drone comes nearby, that's going to be a hassle
they see, you know, when they're vacationing in crime here,
they see big explosions right nearby. And Ukraine's taken the
war to them, which is a big difference from the
beginning of the war. It's it's really coming to them,
(35:11):
and before it only it only affected people out on
the hinterlands. Putin was very careful not to disrupt the
lives of Muscovites. But now they are getting disrupted, and
you wonder why don't they why don't they revote? Well,
of course it's the iron fist of Putin. But they
may be a different, very different culture than we are,
(35:32):
and this may be an isolated incident. But let me
share this anecdote with you something I saw on the television.
Is there any way to know if it's real?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
No?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Could it have been a setup? Could it be fake? Yep,
I saw it. You decide if what I'm telling you
has merit. But there was a new story, maybe you
saw it, where a woman was very pleased, thrilled, practically
dancing a ja that her husband had signed a contract
(36:03):
to go off and fight and die on the front
in Ukraine. She was super excited because now she'd be
able to go shopping, buy a nice bigger get a
nice bigger apartment. She was thrilled that her husband was
going off to die and so she could have the money.
(36:23):
I don't know if this is an isolated thing. Of course,
I don't know if it's fake. But what you know,
I'm looking for any reason I can find why. The people,
the oligarchs, maybe not the poor people, but at least
the oligarchs say yo, Vladimir, dude, this is getting uncomfortable.
(36:44):
Stop it now. Maybe Putin just won't stop, but yeah, now,
if things get uncomfortable enough for the people in power
other than Putin, this could end tomorrow. And it really
could end at any moment. And I hope that the
pressure stays on because I don't think they can hold
out that much longer. I do need to break now,
(37:09):
it appears, and then I'll just chat with you for
the last few minutes and in a lighthearted manner. It's WBZ.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on wb Boston's news radio.
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want to I want to thank folks on a couple
of levels. First, I'm super thankful to be be able
to speak to you again on the radio. It's really
important to me. It gives me a good balance in
my life, gives me a voice, and I really appreciate it. Secondly,
I appreciate you tonight, especially because at the beginning of
(37:43):
that last long and excellent segment with the Dan Snell,
I asked you to focus on the issue, focus on
the policy, and not criticize the individual, not wander off
and into identity politics and personality politics. And you didn't.
And it was great. We were able, in this day
(38:06):
and age to actually have on the radio a conversation
about an issue. Sticking to the issue, We got information,
we synthesize that information. I learned some things from you,
hopefully you learn some things from from us from me,
and it was great thanks to both our guests, and
(38:29):
thanks to Barbara Demick that she's the first guest and
talking about life in North Korea. If you would like to,
you know, get a closer contact with me, I'm not
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will give you a very you know, my website where
(38:50):
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haven't spoken to many many of you in years. During
that time, I have not been idle. I have been
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I don't make any money off it at all to
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Do you still by the way, do you still say
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Speaker 7 (39:38):
Is it?
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Kind of like great Woods? Great Woods is not great
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Like great Woods is always great Woods? Kind of? So
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I'm talking a lot of trips since nineteen ninety as
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we talked about tonight with our guests because we were
talking about Russia. And yes, I did go to Moscow,
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It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm gelling you Boston's
Dach Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Brady for Dan. Dan will be back soon. We're talking
about US foreign policy when it comes to Russia Ukraine.
We have a special guest, Dan Snell, who's seems like
an excellent guest. My first time working with you, Dan,
but boy, you seem great.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
And we have yeah, enjoined, we have full lines.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We we gonna go to Geo first because we promised.
Gio said he had twenty questions. Can he keep it
till like too? And what we'll do to save time is,
rather than both me answering and I guess answering, direct
them to the guests and see what he thinks, and
that will get us to the callers. Quicker to you folks. Quicker,
So Geo, let me hook you up. You are good
(00:44):
to go, Geo.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Okay, Dan, could you give me one sentence about your background?
He did in the beginning, but as Dan give him, well,
I've only been listening for the last fifteen or twenty minutes,
so sure I missed. Sure I know well who Dans
or what his background is. I want to talk about
something that's relevant to Dan's knowledge. Okay, Well, you know,
(01:08):
I am a fan of Ziggler and he was a
mentor of mind. He said, you can have everything you
want in life if you just help enough other people
get what they want. And as a quote, a washing
is the person I'm familiar with zig Ziggler, I am
familiar with CIA white papers.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
I am familiar with a.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Langley Field in just outside of Washington. And by the way,
Europe is very unhappy with our participation in Ukraine because
for the last thirty years Russia has been selling them
gas through those pipelines for fifty percent off of the
world price. And since we reacted to by using Zelenski,
(02:00):
who is put in the presidency by CIA activities and
his father. They came to know him through his father,
who is in charge of cyber for a rogue element
in the CIA at the University of Kiev. But anyway,
since Oliver North, the CIA has been taking gas from
(02:26):
the pipelines. The pipelines go through to Europe. The meters
justify at Europe, they justify going into Ukraine, and they
always lose ten or fifteen or twenty percent against the
contract that although Ukraine is being paid and has been
paid for forty years to manage the pipeline so this
(02:47):
doesn't happen. Every five years they renew the contract and
Russia has to write it off.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
So the bottom.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Line water bottom line is Europe is upset with Oved
without being involved.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
What we did is we have a new Louisiana company
owned by our oligarchs and it does liquefied natural gas.
And the minute he invaded, we sent turned around three
tankers going to South Korea and Taiwan and someplace else,
and we sent them to Amsterdam and Europe refused them
(03:21):
because it would have increased what they're paying to heat
their homes and run all of their infrastructure by a
time a factor of four. So if every homeowner in
Europe was paying one thousand dollars for their electricity last
three years ago, they have been paying four thousand dollars
(03:41):
every homeowner ever since. And so they're not as happy
with Us as they were satisfied with Russia. Russia has
never made an attempt to invade them. All they're looking
for is someone to solidify the pipelines, and Trump is
in the process of doing that by negotiating with them.
(04:06):
And if they give him five percent of the overhead profits,
he will hire europe European troops or UN troops to
manage the pipelines that go through that country, and then
we will manage the North Sea pipeline. And all of
(04:27):
these pipelines are not owned by Russian government, their German
oligarchs and Russian oligarchs. Gasprom is a private, for profit company,
so it's a good place to stop.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
So for the sake of finances, we throw Ukraine and
their people under the bus and just say goodbye to
a sovereign country. I mean, maybe there's a good trade off.
Thanks a lot, Geo, what do you think, Dan.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, well, I think jail sounds like I like it
because he's engaged. The I of winsome stands for be interested,
and he's certainly interested in what's going on. That's what
more American citizens should be like Geo and pay attention
because lots of times, well I read it on the internet,
so it must be true. People listen on social media.
They just believe something. And these days with AI, you
(05:17):
don't really know. You got to really verify, you got
to really don't just immediately trust. But what Geo was saying,
you know, the key short words for that is follow
the money throughout the history of politics, sadly follow the money,
and the money drives things. I mean that affects this
whole natural gas thing. I live in Kansas, and in
southwest Kansas there is a little town called Hugoton, Kansas,
(05:42):
once known as the natural gas capital of the world.
Now it's just the natural gas capital of the United States.
But they went from booming and all types of big
companies coming in there too. During the last administration, things
didn't go like they wanted because of some of the
policy changes, and asked it's something we should as America
take advantage of. But sounds like GEO did a great
(06:04):
job doing his homework and that you.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Know, they might explain to a point Germany's hesitance. You know,
they didn't get right on board with sending aid. They
you know, they kind of dilly delied around for a while.
But that was really good Geo, Thank you very much.
Now all the way to Sante Oh. In a moment,
we go to San Antonio, but first it's Edwin Worcester.
(06:26):
I'm trying to get to. There are still four people
that I need to get to, so let's all be
that tried to be succinct.
Speaker 7 (06:34):
Hi, Riley. I guess my comments would be colored by
the fact that I'm sixty years old. I can't think
of a single big foreign policy success in my lifetime
that the United States has had, you know, militarily, and
so I guess what I would do, and I'm not
really I don't. I don't follow what Trump is trying
(06:57):
to do. I think he's become too invested in just
getting a deal done rather than what, you know, the
substance of the deal is, which given that he's got
a commercial real estate background, doesn't really surprise me. That's,
you know what, what I kind of expect from somebody
like that. But what I would do is basically say
to Russia, We're going to give you two options, and
(07:20):
you can pick either one. You can either withdraw from
all the territory you've taken, other than Crimea because Crimea
used to be Russian territory until nineteen fifty seven. So
I'd let them hang on to that.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And we'll get I hate that.
Speaker 8 (07:34):
I hate that, Well, well, I think you got to
got to give them. You've got to give them something
to back off, and that would be a concession. And
I would say, then we will we you and you
the Russians, and we the Americans, will give Ukraine the
same status that we both the USSR and the US
agreed to give Austria after World War Two, which is
(07:55):
they're not disarmed. They have an army and they have
an air force, but they can't join in any international
military alliance and they can't have foreign military forces on
their territory. That's option number one. If you want to
take that, that's option number two. I'll call the nuclear option,
and that is Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons based
(08:16):
on an agreement that Russia made to respect its territorial integrity.
You Russia broke that agreement.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
So what we will do is we will rearm Ukraine
with nuclear weapons. We're going to give them back the
nuclear weapons that they gave up in the nineties, and
then you can take your chances with them and see
what you want to do. So you pick, you Russia,
you putin pick which of those two you want, and
if you don't pick, we're going to go with option
(08:45):
number two.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Wow. Pretty interesting stuff. One thing that I don't know
if the Russians are even considering. Even if they take that,
it could still end up being there Afghanistan. I mean,
they could be guerrilla warfare going on and on and
on and bleeding them dry. And they they're already pretty
exhausted as I myself don't know how long that the
(09:10):
Russia can keep this up, especially now that Ukraine is
taken out infrastructure, oil refining capability a lot like up
to twenty five percent already, that's a significant thing. I
don't know how long they can hold out. And I
think if our administration will stand strong, that they might
have to cave in. If they knew that we weren't
(09:33):
going away, they might cave dan.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, I think one of the things that it's kind
of been I'm surprised it hasn't been discussed. But if
you remember, things happened so quickly. You know, it used
to be news cycles for every three or four days.
Right now it's every three or four hours. It's Donald Trump, right,
something's always happening. I mean, which stay tuned, it's going
to be in three hours overnight. He I promise you'll
be on truth, social opening up something else. However, right
(09:57):
back to my point a little add but remember the
mineral Rights deal. Remember how he made the big thing
about signing the mineral rights deal and that the United
States would then be invested with companies being involved in
our citizens being there. Remember that, and we said, hey,
because we're going to have that at stake, We're not
(10:17):
going to let anything happen to you. So I don't
know if it's such a huge thing to not join NATO.
As long as as it's well known that, hey, we
have American citizens there now, corporations and companies in this
mineral rights deal in Europe will be there strong, so
the whole land. You know, Trump, as a caller mentioned,
you know, he's a real estate guy, likes to talk
(10:39):
about the real estate. He called crimea beachfront property. He's
a witty guy. But they have to decide that and
not both both sides aren't going to get everything they want.
I mean, Zelensky, I admire him for his strength, and
he's wants to say I'm not going to give this
up and putin wants and once and once he wants
at all. He wants to ask for it all. So
(10:59):
some where they have to get both sides have to
get about seventy percent and walk away in some form
of win win. But I believe that the United States
maybe this mineral rights deal. And if we don't stand
strong with Europe and say we will protect Ukraine as
a sovereign nation, then we will have lost the admiration
(11:21):
of the world. You know, President Kennedy one of my heroes.
Our callers said he was sixty. I'm going to be
seventy in December, so I've been around, but John F.
Kennedy was my hero. Covered my book. You know his quote,
the energy, the faith, the devotion which we bring to
this endeavor will light our country and all who serve it.
And the glow from that fire can truly light the world.
(11:41):
And in this case, hearkening back to the President from
your state, the glow from what could happen if we
get this done will show the world again that once
again America is the shining city on the hill.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I'm going to ask this, but I'm not going to
ask for an answer right away. Think about this, and
everybody an answer. It's part of your question and answer.
Ken Ukraine went without the US. That's a you know,
pretty yes or no answer. Now, we traveled to San
Antonio and Dave I San Antonio.
Speaker 9 (12:15):
No, Ukraine cannot win without the US, and that war
is not Trump's war, that's wars Obama's and o'biden's war.
When Biden Obama financed that able to goal coup in
the Ukraine, then afterwards all hell's broken loose ever since.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
That time, that's come up, the coup, the coup, Dan,
can you talk about that.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
Here?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Exactly what the caller was talking about, may be repeat
it please?
Speaker 9 (12:48):
And I also know one thing that Zelensky has passed,
the law that says my people can't speak Russian, and
my people can't go to the Russian Orthodox Church. They're
illegal in there. And also an election area that's out
of question. And I as far as Trump inviting Putin
(13:12):
to America, as if that's Putin's advantage. We invited Putin
to a land that we took practically took off the
Russians to get them out of debt a long time ago.
They cast Stewart's Folly. But the Russians were so darned
deep a debt, and we said, okay, we'll buy Alaska
(13:32):
for that about and we got a very rich, beautiful
piece of land just to get them out of debt.
And then when Putin comes over to Alaska and so O'donald,
so he wanted to show Putin, how about his gun case?
Had them planes flying right over his head? No, yeah,
(13:53):
that was no, that was no advantage for Putin.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I don't think he'll legitimize an enemy like that and
allow him to visit yourself without getting something in return.
Speaker 9 (14:06):
Well, we're getting something in return. And all I'm saying
is money talks and Bulman here walks, walks, and all
these people making comments about Trump. This is that these
are those.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Made movements about the president other than in the in
the proper context of this conversation, all the.
Speaker 9 (14:30):
Proper context, they don't know what they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Okay, that looks what a good jumping off point that
was right there. I'm not exactly sure what there was
a response to there. Uh Dan snow anything.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah, Well it is interesting. You know, the history is
seven point two It is kind of funny the Seward's folly.
He talked about buying Alaska very much. It's seven point
two million dollars. I didn't realize that they were in
big debt, so, uh, you know, maybe we could sell
it back to Russia for fifty trillion dollars. A wee
could get out of our national death. I'm joking. I'm joking.
(15:07):
I don't want Alaskan's listening to be mad at me.
But I just think that you know, the caller, you
could tell he's a patchnick guye, and we have that
in America. I just believe we need to be able
to agree to disagree without being disagreeable. And that's part
of what I think one of the big things that
this president should try to shift and do and pivot
is try to unite the country because we're so divided
(15:29):
and I don't like to see that.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Okay, more in a moment on WBZ Night Side with
Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Let's get right to the guests and the callers there again,
if you just John Guess, we're talking about how you
feel about America's foreign policy in the case of the
Russian Korean War. And next it's Lynn, Joe and Lynn.
You're on with rather Jay and Dan Snell direct your
(16:00):
Dan saves time. How you doing, Joe?
Speaker 10 (16:02):
Hi, thank you Jay for taking my call. You're a
little distorted, but that's okay. On the radio, and okay,
on the phone, my friend and I from Brighton, we're
talking about this. We feel Trump should not be involved.
He should have given him a choice to settle it,
and just say because he promised in the election, and
I'd like your take, Dan, that he would not get
(16:24):
involved in Kennedy did say, you get involved with entanglements
and foreign powers. This is what happens. We shouldn't have
gotten in there and we shouldn't be dealing with NATO.
Biden did force I think for you force Ukraine or
something to get into NATO or something like that, and
that's how this whole things started. Like your comments, please, thanks.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Dan, Yeah, Joe, I you know my course.
Speaker 9 (16:52):
I go back.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I'm sitting around the kitchen table with my dad, a
World War two veteran. Kind of chokes me up just
think about it, eating ice cream at night. Were talking
about patriotism and love of country and America and who
we are. And it's just my belief. And I still
believe in the recent polls I mentioned earlier, if you
were with us, but now seventy three percent of Americans
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overall and now fifty two percent of even the Republicans
believe we should stand with Ukraine. And I simply believe
that for America to continue to be the country in
the world that people look to as a shining example
that we need to stand strong and not let a
(17:35):
bully take out a smaller country.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, there's one thing we haven't really addressed, and that
is no one's really taking Ukraine and their will into account.
They may not. They're probably not going to agree to
something that's really super distasteful, and you can't blame them.
What if some third you know, what if what if
the Netherlands to the founding fatherist. You know what, We're
(18:02):
gonna make a deal for you. You we wanted to
give into the English and you know, you get to
keep New Hampshire and that's it. What would they have said?
Let's go exactly, Let's go from Matt and Brighton. How
you doing, Matt?
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Okay?
Speaker 11 (18:18):
You know, you know, uh, first of all, I appreciate
you taking my time to make the call. I have
an idea of the answer to this. I just want
to ask the guests, and I mean it's respectfully. Do
you know how much of Obama gave in foreign aid
to Russia and Russian causes even though it was not
(18:39):
an under tax payerade.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
I do not.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah, I've seen that. I've seen that number, and it
was surprising and it sounds like you may know it,
so you're you can enlighten this, but it was kind
of shocking that we did give a lot of the
dollars to Russia. You never know what programs for, the
what and the why, but you know the answer to that.
Speaker 11 (19:02):
So absolutely, I don't want to make it seem like
in any way that I'm attacking you with that answer question.
I just want to make a principal point that there's
something that I will give the answer. I believe it
was seven hundred and it's still one hundred given I
think because they claimed I think it was seven hundred
and fifty billion dollars or million dollars per year.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
I will have to.
Speaker 11 (19:26):
Look back, and the site is not sourceable because when
I looked it up, it is saying that it's not
American taxpayer dollars, it's money to du back to them.
But that is roughly the number under the year that
when Obama was in power, and I want to say
it's the latter half of the two that seven hundred
and fifty million that went.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It was money to do back to them. It was
their money already.
Speaker 11 (19:51):
That's what they claim well, this is where it will
get me a little political that that that was the claim.
That was not tac parade, and it was I need
to be back to them, yes, under undue dollars. That
was the way that the Obama administration I think portrayed.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Does that have any effect on this situation even though
no one here is picking on the current president at all,
as you may have noticed, and so I don't know
if you need he needs to be defended by appointing
to a president on the other side that also did
something that you find distasteful.
Speaker 11 (20:27):
I do not see you, you know, Putin is somebody
who is a person that should be defended getting you know,
large amounts of money. I don't think Donald Trump in
our president, although I can support him in many ways,
I do is giving anything right necessarily picking you know,
he'll kiss every planting he can at this point to
(20:48):
get just thus hands up. But with that said that
the point why I said that was because Donald Trump
and our president can be condemned for what he needs
to be, but we should recognize where else this has
started and originated from. And we know with Hillary and
what she did with Uranian.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
But I'm not going to go keep her into that
is that we promised. Well, I guess to go into
the personal stuff. Okay, thank you so much.
Speaker 11 (21:19):
I appreciate Hey, I appreciate you, and I hope I
didn't in anyway us seem disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Not at all, Matt. We appreciate you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
All right, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Anything to add to that.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Well, you know that there it was that we talked
about a little earl is follow the money lots of times.
If you follow the money in some of this world
trade and things that are going on, it's always, uh,
you get your eyes open to some things. And so
Matt had a good point of tracking. I think the
money he was talking about was seized.
Speaker 9 (21:49):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
You know, from time to time America will seize the
holdings of olive arts or or Russian holdings, or China
holdings or different things, and then they are ran. And
then that happened, and then the money goes back, and
then the word, without being properly filtered, gets out that
we're giving billions of dollars to a country when it
was perhaps their own. Now should we have kept it
(22:11):
or not because of the sins that they did in
war or whatever? They did to humankind. Maybe so, but
that's not for me to decide out of Kansas right now.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Okay, we do have a brief break here, and on
the other side of this, I'll go right to Dan
with this question. Think about a concise answer for this.
How does it benefit to you in the US to
a nable No, Actually, let me change the question. How
will it affect the US if Ukraine capitulates and you
lose a substantial territory, let's say the industrial part and
(22:44):
a significant part of the agricultural part. How will that
affect the United States? Should we care at all? Why
should we care at all? And then we'll go to Stephen,
Bill Rickett and Daniel and Worcester and you folks can
answer that one too or ask your own question.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Coming up on WBZ, you're on Night Side with Dan
Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Ran the j for Dan. Dan will be back soon
and we're with Dan Snell, political commentary and expert. Asked
him a question before we left. Then we'll get to Stephen,
Dan Steven, Yeah, Daniel, and Worcester. Dan in Kansas for you,
how will it affect the United States if Russia wins?
(23:31):
Pretty outright and gets everything they want, like about three quarters,
say half the important half of Ukraine. How does that
affect us, both both financially, geopolitically. Others are watching, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah, I think it's very important to Donald Trump, especially
because he does pride himself part of the deal, being
a deal maker and getting things that he wants. Some
of that land in the north, I mean Crimea. As
we've discussed, it's probably something that I I wish that
Ukraine could get some way, they could get a portion
of that because that's pretty important as its access to
(24:06):
the sea. But I hate to see them lose all that.
But there is agriculture land and mineral rights and manufacturing.
There's important things in that land along the north. And
so Donald Trump needs to stand strong with Ukraine in
that because if he doesn't stand alongside Zolensky, even though
(24:26):
he's trying to broker the deal on both sides, but
he's given in enough in conversation and words and deeds
and compliments and buddying up to Vladimir Putin that it's
time to now show in the final the final days
that things that are important to the United States, we're
going to stand with so that land, with the manufacturing
(24:48):
and the agriculture and the mineral rights. We need to
make sure that Ukraine keeps.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
It all right. And I want to respond to my
own question, and I'm going to play the long shot.
This is not the popular view, but I am wondering
if perhaps Ukraine could when it couldn't make Russia go away.
And for one, let's take a look at Afghanistan. Afghanistan
(25:12):
was not a real powerhouse and that that busted them.
And Ukraine is, with its allies in Europe, even more potent.
So and then Russia's diminished, extremely diminished state, I'm not
so sure that this might not take them down the
(25:33):
same road as Afghanistan. But you know, I do admit
that's a long shot. But if it were like three
to one, that's where I'd put my money. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Well, you know, it's not such a long shot because
I know it was asked earlier and one of the
callers said, no way, could they not win. They could
not win without the United States. And I don't know,
you know, if you look at when Ukraine was fully ammunition,
when they got the ammunition and the rockets and the
missiles from the United States and Europe really didn't have
a hand in providing them that they were really making moves.
(26:03):
And I was shocked at how strong Ukraine was taking
back land and some of the things. You know, they
did some things with some drones that were that shocked
the world in the way that they attacked. So I
think you could be right in that if something broke
down here and Europe fully got behind, fully got behind Ukraine,
and Donald Trump even halfway because he had to stand
(26:26):
up to putin in order to keep the honor of
his presidency, I think Ukraine could make a surge and
gain back some of that land. And so I believe
in the resolve and the resilience. It's difficult to see
their country being destroyed, but I think if they can
get people, they can they can win back land if
(26:47):
they get the weapons.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
And by the way, even if Russia got the good
part of Ukraine, was it worth it? Like a huge
segment of their young male population gone, their their economy gutted,
their military exposed and gutted. Was it worth it? No? Also,
(27:15):
two new NATO members, one on their border. How did
that work out for you guys?
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Not great?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Especially if this was supposed to be to keep Ukraine
off their border as a as a NATO member. Okay,
let's go to Stephen Bill riccahaih.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Hello, I you already said it. You know the point
that you know the you know, Russia is losing a
million or the young is like the new generation and
the economy is getting bad. But one thing I do
think about as far as Donald Trump, uh, the president,
(28:01):
he's he's looking at this as a real estate transaction
that he used to and that's why saying that he's
not using his you know, as far as political and
he has to look at that geopolitic because Russia won't stop.
(28:21):
And first of all, Ukraine as fart very high the
dumb Bass region, and he wants that for free. He
wants that.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
Now with.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
What he already get Putin, and then now he wants
Ukraine to give him dumb Bass region. And I think
that should never happen because I just think that what
we look at like Donald Trump, he is more afraid
of Putin than our Supreme Court. And that's what pissed
(28:56):
me off.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
All Right, thank you very much, Steve, I appreciate it. Yes,
we'll go to Daniel and what's sense? Since he's there,
how are you doing, Daniel, I'm.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
All right, all of a suddenly when you went silent,
can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yes? We can?
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Okay, Now if I may begin by first of all,
you know, just you know, warning you that you're my
mother's baby. Turn turned on the radio and I and
I and I heard you talking about somebody saying about,
you know, all of the money. So I thought that
I had to say something. You know, I'm I'm you know,
I'll be three next week, but I but I'm seventy
(29:36):
two right now. So I wanted to say, uh, it's
not just follow the money. We must My mummy told
me that we must begin with the truth and whichever
away the truth follows, which have the courage not to
not to not disrespect. That is why I would say
right now that the President of the United States, he's doing,
(29:59):
you know, a beautiful thing to try and get to
fighting neighbors to make peace, which is a very big
difference in my opinion, from where he was in his
first you know, presidency term, where he was acting like
like like me at three years old, you know, very
(30:20):
tun from me. So that's the first thing. But following
the money. I want to say, when you follow the money,
please pay attention to the truth, because I'll give you
an example. We hear so often about the crates of
money that president former President Obama gave back to Iran,
but nobody ever says that that was Iranian money that
(30:42):
I had been taken when you know overseas in the
Swiss banks by the by the Shah who had been
made by the who had been allowed to really exploit
and corrupt Iran after Iran tried to be democratic. Follow
the unit the States example, in the years that are
born in nineteen fifty three, uh, and the guy and
(31:06):
then the guy who was who had been elected president
ended up being overthrown by the United States. So the
United States is wonderful when they are true to the
spiritual thinking of the of the founding fathers. But when
they when they go on assassinate the president of the
first Prime Minister of the Congo, Patrician Mumba, who then
a university is in Kiev, in Russia, in the Sovit
(31:30):
Union in what is now Ukraine. Uh, something is wrong there.
So you know, we can be good as long as
we are too legged human beings. We can be good
and if we are not good, we should we should
be told why we are not good.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
All right, that's perfect, Thank you very much, well said.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, good word.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I want to make sure Daniel that you get to
plug books or anything you're doing. I mean, you did
just such a kindness coming on. I want to make
you as you will. What do you what do you got?
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Well, you were you were so that was a Daniel caller.
You're surrounded you got Dan Watkins in the newsroom there,
and you're standing in for for Dan Ray as a host,
and you got a Dan guest. So you're just surrounded
by Dan's and you know what I.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Had I have for separ Dan, Dan noodles.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, listen, it's been great to be if you really
have enjoyed it. Bradley and uh.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
The Winsome The Winsome Candidate is a book really to
try to encourage people a kind of a hope and
how to. It meets them at the corner of hope
and how to how to hope for a better way
to be a leader, and it gives them the how
to break the word down into an acronym wins be willing.
The eye is be willing that the eye is be
(32:47):
interested in, be a nurturer, s be a solutionnaire. Oh,
be optimistic, m be mindful, and last the e be engaging.
As you can go, you get the winsome candidate or
the wins Wayon or Barnes and Noble whatever. But the
most important thing I think for people listening, I guess
maybe as we're winding down here is you know what
my dad told me when we sat around that kitchen
(33:09):
table eating ice cream. In fact, Ronald Reagan the cover
of my book, I quote Ronald Reagan as well as Kennedy,
the two people I admired that all. Ronald Reagan said,
all great change in America begins at the dinner table.
And I just would encourage your listeners to talk to
their families, their children about what's going on in America
and not let it be a fight like Thanksgiving dinners
(33:31):
can sometimes be. But talk about how to make this
place we call home better. But my dad said this
to me, and it's stuck with me. And he said,
when you see something that needs to be done and
no one is willing to do it, stepped forward and
be the leader, son.
Speaker 9 (33:49):
And that's you know.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
That is stuck with me all my life because whether
it's a piece of trash in the street that nobody's
willing to pick up, or the bully that's pushing somebody
around that you go and stop them, or the United
States of America says to Russia enough Ukraine is a
sovereign nation. When you see something that needs to be
done and nobody's doing it, stand up and be the leader.
(34:11):
So I hope that President Trump does that. All your
listeners are listeners here tonight. And I've just had such
a great time fun taking the calls and everything, and Bradley,
you're just a fun guy to be with, and God
bless you all.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Well, thank you very much, and Dan Ray, thank you
for sharing this guest, Dan Snell, I appreciate it. Take care,
all right, all right, there's one thing that I wanted
to share that we did not go directly to this,
but it's about the culture. You wonder, why does the
why are the people of Russia not revolt? Because this
(34:48):
is affecting them considerably. Their airports gets shut down, when
any drone comes nearby, that's going to be a hassle
they see, you know, when they're vacationing in crime here,
they see big explosions right nearby. And Ukraine's taken the
war to them, which is a big difference from the
beginning of the war. It's it's really coming to them,
(35:11):
and before it only it only affected people out on
the hinterlands. Putin was very careful not to disrupt the
lives of Muscovites. But now they are getting disrupted, and
you wonder why don't they why don't they revote? Well,
of course it's the iron fist of Putin. But they
may be a different, very different culture than we are,
(35:32):
and this may be an isolated incident. But let me
share this anecdote with you something I saw on the television.
Is there any way to know if it's real?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
No?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Could it have been a setup? Could it be fake? Yep,
I saw it. You decide if what I'm telling you
has merit. But there was a new story, maybe you
saw it, where a woman was very pleased, thrilled, practically
dancing a ja that her husband had signed a contract
(36:03):
to go off and fight and die on the front
in Ukraine. She was super excited because now she'd be
able to go shopping, buy a nice bigger get a
nice bigger apartment. She was thrilled that her husband was
going off to die and so she could have the money.
(36:23):
I don't know if this is an isolated thing. Of course,
I don't know if it's fake. But what you know,
I'm looking for any reason I can find why. The people,
the oligarchs, maybe not the poor people, but at least
the oligarchs say yo, Vladimir, dude, this is getting uncomfortable.
(36:44):
Stop it now. Maybe Putin just won't stop, but yeah, now,
if things get uncomfortable enough for the people in power
other than Putin, this could end tomorrow. And it really
could end at any moment. And I hope that the
pressure stays on because I don't think they can hold
out that much longer. I do need to break now,
(37:09):
it appears, and then I'll just chat with you for
the last few minutes and in a lighthearted manner. It's WBZ.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on wb Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Hey, folks, thank you so much. I'm very thankful. I
want to I want to thank folks on a couple
of levels. First, I'm super thankful to be be able
to speak to you again on the radio. It's really
important to me. It gives me a good balance in
my life, gives me a voice, and I really appreciate it. Secondly,
I appreciate you tonight, especially because at the beginning of
(37:43):
that last long and excellent segment with the Dan Snell,
I asked you to focus on the issue, focus on
the policy, and not criticize the individual, not wander off
and into identity politics and personality politics. And you didn't.
And it was great. We were able, in this day
(38:06):
and age to actually have on the radio a conversation
about an issue. Sticking to the issue, We got information,
we synthesize that information. I learned some things from you,
hopefully you learn some things from from us from me,
and it was great thanks to both our guests, and
(38:29):
thanks to Barbara Demick that she's the first guest and
talking about life in North Korea. If you would like to,
you know, get a closer contact with me, I'm not
going to give you my super personal information, but I
will give you a very you know, my website where
(38:50):
you can see what I've been up to. Like I
haven't spoken to many many of you in years. During
that time, I have not been idle. I have been
making music. I have been working on a completing a
travel a YouTube travel channel, you know, none if it's
sponsored or anything. It's all there for you. It's all free.
I don't make any money off it at all to
(39:12):
my knowledge. And the URL too get access to all
my social media links, you know, Facebook, rather than me
spell it out, uh Facebook, Instagram, Twitter maybe or X
(39:35):
Do you still by the way, do you still say
Twitter or x?
Speaker 7 (39:38):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Kind of like great Woods? Great Woods is not great
Woods anymore, but it's great Woods. Will Twitter always be Twitter?
Like great Woods is always great Woods? Kind of? So
all my social links are there. And the original music
that I do by myself, there's like uh an. Then
(40:00):
there's original music that I do with as a collaboration
that's called Ignore the Machine. The band is called Ignore
the Machine. And then there's the YouTube travel channel. During
the pandemic, we all had something we did, most of
us did, and I had all this footage of trips.
I'm talking a lot of trips since nineteen ninety as
(40:21):
a matter of fact. The first one was Moscow, which
we talked about tonight with our guests because we were
talking about Russia. And yes, I did go to Moscow,
and that little sliver of time when it was cool,
and uh did went to see the stones, but the
stones stones didn't play, but I was still wet there.
Broadcast live from Russia. The video is still there, so
(40:44):
you can go to BRADLEYJ dot org, BRADLEYJ dot org,
b R A, D L E. Y Jay dot org.
And now we'll get you to all the socials and
the Travel Channel and all the travel channels called Bradley J. Travel.
I look forward to continuing with you tonight here on
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