September 23, 2025 • 37 mins
Tuesday President Trump spoke to the 80th United Nations General Assembly. During the President’s speech he touched on climate change, U.S. funding cuts, bashed the U.N. over teleprompter and escalator issues, told other European leaders their countries are “going to hell” over open border policies and rejected recognition of a Palestinian statehood calling it a reward for Hamas. We discussed an overview of all that occurred during the U.N. General Assembly.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WVS Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well, today began the eightieth General Assembly of the United Nations.
The United Nations was formed after World War Two. In
let's see, it would have been nineteen forty six. If
I'm not mistaken, this is the eightieth birthday. I think
I'm right on that. If I'm off, maybe it was
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forty five September forty five.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Bottom life has been around for a long time.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It certainly has had its share of criticism launched at it,
and today was no exception. President Donald Trump delivered a
speech that was interesting. I watched a lot of the
speech this morning. A lot of it was what you
would expect to hear from Donald Trump when he speaks
to a world body, and he's speaking to the biggest,
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most influential world body assembly of whatever it is, one
hundred and seventy representatives of governments from countries around the world.
And I found one article in the BBC by a
gentleman named him James Landale, a diplomatic correspondent for the BBC,
And I'm just going to intersplice some of the sound
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of the President today at the UN with the article.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
The article is very accurate. It says six years ago
Trump's UN audience laughed. This year they were silent.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Well, they were more than silent. They were respectful. They
applauded a few times.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I thought that.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
The President had the misfortune of the telepropter going down,
and I just thought to myself, Gee, if that had
happened a year ago when Joe Biden was president, I
don't really know what Joe Biden would have done.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Donald Trump, as is his.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Practice, he vamped for a while, joked about the teleprompted
going down. At the same time, apparently an escalator he
and the first lady were riding on at the UN
building stopped midway up from one floor to the next,
and he went on and bragged a little bit about
how he was in good shape and that his wife
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was as well. Again, my mother used to tell me
that self praise is no praise, but obviously she never
talked to Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Let's go to cut thirty.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
This is sort of his vamping a little bit while
they did get the teleprompter working.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Finally, cut thirty.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Rob I ended seven wars, dealt with the leaders of
each and every one of these countries, and never even
received a phone call from the United Nations offering to
help in finalizing the deal. All I got from the
United Nations was an escalator that on the way up
stopped right in the middle. If the first lady wasn't
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in great shape, she would have fallen. But she's in
great shape. We're both in good shape. We both stood.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
And then a.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Teleprompter that didn't work. This is These are the two
things I got from the United Nations. A bad escalator
and a bad teleprompter. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
That was a little human note in which I think
actually worked his advantage. He obviously at that point was
doing Donald Trump. Donald Trump does like I don't want
to compare him to Don Rickles, but Donald Donald, you know,
just basically kind of taking it as the situation demanded,
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you lose your teleprompter, and it came back. It did
come back. And then he decided to go after European countries.
And as the article here said, the president, well, he said,
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James Lanesdale Landale wrote for almost almost over almost an hour,
he meaning the President, took aim at his opponents and
their ideas, picking them off one by one as he
toured the world. Began at home praise in the US
and himself. He said the US was living through a
golden age. We've heard that before, and repeated his much
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disputed claim that he personally ended seven wars, something he
argued merited him the Nobel Peace Prize. There are probably
was some sort of a poll that was done today
that I think only twenty seven percent of the American
people think he deserved a Nobel Peace Prize. Well, if
he was, if he's ever able to bring the Ukraine
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Russian conflict to a close, and he did make some
news on that today. He met on what's called the
sidelines with Vololdimir Zolenski, the President of Ukraine, and changed
his tune very much on.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
The Russians.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And we talked about last week and I think that
he now understands that Vladimir Putin, I think played him
and played him fully. So the President went on to
go after European countries, linking their open border problems with
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the order the open border problems that we had under
Joe Biden. This is cut thirty one, please cut thirty.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
According to the Council of Europe in twenty twenty four,
almost fifty percent of inmates and German prisons were foreign
nationals or migrants. In Austria the number was fifty three
percent of the people in prisons were from places that
weren't from where they are now. In Greece the number
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was fifty four percent. And in Switzerland, beautiful Switzerland, seventy
two percent of the people in prisons are from outside
of Switzerland. When your prisons are filled with so called
asylum seekers who repaid kindness, and that's what they did,
they repaid kindness with crime, it's time to end the
failed experiment of open borders.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
You have to end it now.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, he took aim and there's a lot of what
he said that there is crime in Europe, always has
been crime in Europe, but it has ticked up in.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
The last few years with all of the problems in
the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
He went on to talk about the United Nations specifically
and blame them for funding a lot of the illegal
immigration that comes into the US, and he basically accused
the UN of funding the arrival in the millions of dollars.
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I'll play that for well, Rob a play at Cup
thirty two, please rub.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
In twenty twenty four, the UN budgeted three hundred and
seventy two million dollars in cash assistance to support an
estimated six hundred and twenty four thousand migrants journeying into
the United States. Think of that, the UN is supporting
people that are illegally coming into the United States and
then we have to get them out. The UN also
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provided food, shelter, transportation, and debit cards to illegal aliens.
Can you believe that on the way to infiltrate our
southern border? Millions of people came through that southern border
just a year ago. Millions and millions of people were
pouring in twenty five million altogether over the four years
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of the incompetent Biden administration, and now we have it stopped,
totally stopped. In fact, they're not even coming anymore because
they know they can't get through.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
He certainly says what's on his mind.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
There's no doubt about that, and I was surprised that
with all of the criticisms, and we have some more sound.
But the sound I really want to hear is your
reaction to to his speech today and also his change
of tone later on today. He said that he believes
now that Ukraine can win back the land that Russia
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now temporarily or the Russian that Russia now controls in Ukraine,
particularly in the east of Ukraine. So didn't talk about
Crimea specifically because I think that is a literally a
bridge too far. But uh, he's changing his tone. Russia
has gotten much more adventures him in the last few
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days with some planes incursions over Estonia and over Poland
there's some thought that that the next Russian plane that
strays into into the airspace of a NATO country, Uh,
those Russian pilots might be shot down and those planes
might be shot down. And President Trump seemed to give
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a green light to that, very different than his meeting
at the White House with Voldemir Zolynsky President Zolensky back
in February.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
So the one thing that Donald Trump is able to
do is he changes his mind. Some things he won't
change his mind on.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
But I think he's changed his mind on Vladimir Putin,
and he is making fun of the European countries that
are buying so much of their heating oil and their
gas from Russia. In effect, they are funding a war
against Ukraine, and a war that easily could slip over
into their countries that border Russia and Ukraine. So taking
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a quick break, I just would love to know your impressions.
I think he was received very well today at the
United Nations, and I think that the speech that he
had prepared. Uh, again, there was nothing new in the speech,
but it was clearly a complete restatement of so many
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of the things that he has talked about here domestically,
the things that some people like and the things that
some people abhor.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Six seven six one seven nine. Coming right back on
the night Side after this break.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
All right, well, we're going to continue working some sound
from President Trump today. Again, the big news story is
a change in tone towards Russia. He had a meeting,
a side meeting with President Zelensky, and it seemed that
that probably was a very much different meeting than he
had earlier this year at the White House, when he
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berated Zelensky and basically said, you don't have the cards,
suggesting to him that there was no way he was
going to be able to win back the territory that
the Russians had already occupied. Today said very different things.
Let's go to John in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
John welcome back.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Go right ahead, John, all right, Well, I'm going to
agree with you that this speech to the UN, along
with his previous speech last night, alongside off K Junior
about autism, they were delivered with all the grace, class
and level of intellect that one has come to expect.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Well, I think that last night was a really poorly
executed presentation. I don't think that that inspired any any
confidence in anyone. Again, I think Tod's speech, I assure you, well,
no I disagree with you.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
You do you want me?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
You want me to do?
Speaker 5 (11:57):
You want me to detail? Do you want me to detail? Well?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
How much time do you have? You know you probably
have more time than I and give you what I was.
Here's what my overall observation was. I'd like you to
respond to it. I fully expected that there would be
members of the General Assembly who would choose to walk
out during this speech. I didn't see any do that,
which is to me is interesting and the article that
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I read from the BBC made note of that as well.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I think that to that audience today he was received
very well.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
They giggled and laughed with him when he had to
vamp with the the teleprophter going down, and I thought, again,
there was a lot of braggadocia. We expect that from
Donald Trump. But I thought that later in the day
his meeting with Zelensky was the news of the day
and the change in tone towards putin. That's what I'm
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focused on. But I'll give you an opportunity to go
and make your points.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Go right ahead.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Sure, I could give you a rundown of all the
wildly fallacious claims he made, such as saying that China
has invested little in wind farms. They are, in fact
the world's leader in wind energy. In saying that that
we had three hundred thousand drug drug desks last year,
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we had one fifth on them. Mount I mean, I
could go, I can just go down the list.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
We will lose it about.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
One hundred thousand people every year, don't I don't know
how many drug debts we had. Well, if you're going
to quote something and I let's just go on China.
I'm gonna let you go on anything you say that
I know to be true. But we have about seventy
eighty thousand drug debts every year of FENTA. They have
come down, they have come down a little bit, I
think because the border has been closed. But there are
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other drugs that kill people in America too. We still
have heroin.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Out of the streets, and a lot of that is
laced with fentanel.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
By the way, go ahead, But I want but I
want to address your main points. I mean, he he's
threw our insults in other countries and insulted them for
pursuing green energy, even though ten years ago more energy
was generated worldwide from renewables than from coal, for example,
and of course insulted the scientific communities, said, you know,
the global warming is cooked up by you know, a
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hoax perpetrated by dumb people. And he called those names.
He called other nations their failing nations.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Let me, I'm going to play the globe. John.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I'm trying to help you here, So hold on for seconds. Okay,
this is Donald Trump on global warming today at the
United Nations cut thirty four.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Please rob global come on, Rob, get it going.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Global warming not happening. You know, it used to be
global cooling. If you look back years ago in the
nineteen twenties and the nineteen thirties, they said global cooling
will kill the world.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
We have to do something.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Then they said global warming will kill the world, and
it started getting cooler. So now they could just call
it a climate change because that way they can't miss climate change.
Because if he goes higher or lower, whatever the hell happens,
is climate change. It's the greatest con job ever perpetrated
on the world. In my opinion, climate change, No matter
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what happens, you're involved in that. No more global warming,
no more global cooling. All of these predictions made by
the United Nations and many others, often for bad reasons,
were wrong. They were made by stupid people that of
course their country's fortunes and given those same countries no
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chance for success. If you don't get away from this
green scam, your country is going to fail.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
So you're correct.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
He obviously continues to hammer away at global warming.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Go right ahead, John, I'll give you an opportunity to respond.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Sure. Sure. So they were respectful today, I think because
they've learned UH that he takes any sign of personal
disrespect and translates that into UH an abuse of US
government power and public policy. Example given like when he
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hiked tariffs on Brazil because they were prosecuting his friend
jar Bolsonario or Bolsonaro's failed attempt at subverting election in Brazil,
and he outright said that's why he was hiking the
tariffs on Brazil.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
But he made no bones about that's he's honest. So again,
if you if you think that some that some some
some small countries, that he was up there taking names
of people walking out, you can you can assume that
they all sat there in terror if you want, John,
but go read the BBC.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
I wanted to indulge. They know what he is. They
know what he is.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Okay, John, you don't like the guy. John, you sing
the same song every time you call here. I just
like to hear something new from you. Were you surprised
that he changed his view today after his meeting with Zelensky?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Or or is that is that now? Has he become
a warmonger?
Speaker 5 (17:11):
I'm glad he's caught up with the rest of the world.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Oh good for you, Good for you, John, You've given
him him. He's a little slow in your mind, but
he at least his cock up. Okay, John, you're you're
antipathy towards him. I don't think helps your your argument.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I want I want you.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
To to to make your points effectively. And bring people
over to your side. All you're doing is repeating the
same criticisms as with as much vitriol as as he
uses it.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I just think you're not gonna win any arguments that way.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
I don't sew. I don't spew unsupported insults towards citing
his record.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
John, you don't you I want to use the word,
but I don't want to use the H word. You
just despise the guy.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Okay, you you he's he's done nothing. Well, can you
name me one thing that you agree with with Donald Trump?
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Let's see uh in his place in his previous term,
he uh he grounded the Boeing planes with with the
faulty software. He also uh put a stop to a
marketing campaign where uh h vaping companies were using like
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fruit flavored and candy flavored additives and they were targeting
the youth market. But but here's the here's the here's
the thing.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But but no, no credit for closing the border, right John,
No no credit for tightening up on the border.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
You'll you'll pick a couple of things that no one
has ever heard of. They give him credit for.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
This, He's gonna say, Okay, like with Richard Nixon. I
think Donald Trump up engages in criminal actions. I think
he's a contemptuous of US constitution. I'm not going to
play a game. Well, we have to pick out specific
policies that he may have done well on.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
You despise him, John, If that was the best you
come up with, you made my argument. John, I'm into
my newscast. You've gotten eight minutes right now. I've short
changed you the other night. I wanted to give you
some time tonight and again next time you call, come
at us with some some things we haven't heard of.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Be you know one of my arguments. Tell me how
I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
No, what I'm saying is that your arguments are there's
nothing that this guy can do that you know, even
when he turns around, I would argue with you. And
I'm going to be very brief that he thought, Okay,
maybe I can get Putin to do the right thing.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
And guess what I did.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
An hour last week, a couple of hours that Putin
has played Trump. Okay, Putin has played Trump. He at
least now I think realizes that. And I think he's
going to go the other way now. If nuclear war starts,
no matter what happens, you're gonna have some way to
criticize him. He either was too soft on Putin or
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he's gonna be too hard on Putin, no matter what.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
He does, no matter was he did he did.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Did you approve of him whipping out the nuclear power plants? Uh,
the nuclear reactors into in.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Iran, Well one was wiped out. But yeah, I approve
if if that's.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
A big step, John, that was that was one of
those big That was one of those big decisions that
a president.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Makes with respect.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
It's like, I'm not playing this game where we have
an individual in office who is contemptious of the constitution.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Okay, see again, John, You're you're overwhelmed. You're kind even
you don't want to discuss it intellectually. You're overwhelmed, John,
do me a favor.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Take a time over. Believe me, nothing about it.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Go have a glass wine.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Go have a glass of wine and relax and enjoy
the rest of the show. You got nine minutes, actually
nine minutes and fifty seconds. That's that is a long time.
And I appreciate your callers always, thank you, my friend.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
I enjoy your show.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
I'll do without the wine. I appreciate your show.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Thank you very much. Okay, you have a beer whichever
you prefer. We'll be back right after the news here
at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Okay, now that John and I had our weekly conversation,
let me go to Steven Cambridge.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Hey, Steve, are you Dan?
Speaker 7 (21:39):
I'm fine? How are you?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I'm great, and I'm very happy to hear your voice.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
What was your thought on what the President did today
in his speech or what he did afterwards following his
meeting with Zelenski.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Well, Dan, I voted for Trump three times times because
not so much because I liked Donald Trump, but because
I really did not like the direction the Democrats were
taking the country and would like to take the country.
And I've never liked Donald Trump's free willing style and
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his propensity to demonize.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And this is his own bregadaccio. Also, I mean, it's like,
you know, he as I said before, my mom told
me many years ago, self praise is.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
No praise.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Either. Something has happened with me because when I heard
I heard what he said at the un previous to
what you've played on your show, and I'm kind of like,
you know, No, there's never been a politician, certainly our
government leader in my lifetime, who's ever talked like this.
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He seems to just it's almost as if Dan that
he's not really speaking literally, he's kind of everything is
kind of I don't know how to put it, but
I don't think you can parse what he says and
says is this is this accurate or is this inaccurate?
I think somehow he's kind of getting at the truth,
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but it's certainly not in a very literal way. And
I kind of liked the way he talked, and I
think people at the UN were so, you know, to
hear someone speak just so extemporaneously and without a great
deal of concern for detail probably was kind of refreshing
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for them.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Here here, here, for example, he just he went in
so many different directions. Here, Well he talks here about Palestine. Now, well,
this is the moment in time when a bunch of
our allies, Canada, the United Kingdom, Great Britain, Australia and
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now France are choosing to recognize Palestine. We talked about
that last night. Here's what he had to say about that.
Today he could have spoken about what he wanted to
and by definition chose not to speak about what he
did and want to. This is Donald Trump Cut thirty five,
rob Let's hope that the machines are not acting up
cut thirty five.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
As everyone knows, I have also been deeply engaged in
seeking a cease firing Gaza. Have to get that done,
have to get it done. Unfortunately, Hamas has repeatedly rejected
reasonable offers to make peace. We can't forget October seventh,
can we now? As if to encourage continued conflict, some
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of this body seeking to unilaterally recognize a Palestinian state.
The rewards would be too great for Hamas terrorists.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
For their atrocities.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
This would be a reward for these horrible atrocities, including
October seventh, even while they refused to release the hostages
or accept the cease fire. Instead of giving to Hamas
and giving so much because they've taken so much, they
have taken so much. This could have been solved so
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long ago. But instead of giving in to Hamas's ransom demands,
those who want peace should be united with one message,
release the hostages now.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Just release the hostages now.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
So there's a little bit of applause there somewhat reluctant.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
That's pretty amazing, pretty amazing.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
There was no soaring rhetoric.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
No, no, you know, ruffles and flourishes, no line that
someone might remember or we might remember, you know, going forward.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
But it was definitely not I have a dream speech.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
No it was not.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
It was not asked, not what your country could do
for you, but what you could do for your country
was not mister Gorbachev, tear down this wall.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
There was no line that's going to be remembered from it.
That's not what he does.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
That's not his not his style, and certainly is in
his his forte.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
But you liked it.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
I liked it, and I think maybe I'm beginning to
understand his kind of I've always been very unhappy with
the way he expresses himself and his lack of care
for detail. But if he can somehow seem to kind
of work things out, particularly in Ukraine, particularly in Gaza,
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the way he worked things out on the border, for example,
I think that would be and I think there's a
chance he'd do it.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I don't know. My frustration with John was when I
asked him, you know, what has he done that you like?
He talked about, you know, changing some coloring dye. And
I remember when Boeing was having problems with their engines.
You'd have to be a fool. Although John might might
think that Trump is a fool not to have grounded
some flights, and I just think that I think the
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decision to take to take Iran off the stage of
nuclear players was a big gamble, was a big decision
and one that frankly, it was the right one to make.
Speaker 7 (27:31):
I don't know is it appears was it appears it
was the right one to make. And you know, he's
certainly not perfect, there's no question about that. There's some
people who feel, you know, Dan, I'm going to just
close with this. You know, there are people that say
they have a Trump derangement syndrome. Nothing he can do
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is right. You know, we know those people they sometimes
call your program might think sometimes, but there are also people, Dan,
who feel that nothing Trump can do is wrong. Yes,
and that's derangement. But somehow he seems to always come
out things are better than when he got in there.
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And I don't know how he does it because he
doesn't appear like he's a real clear thinkers. He's no
Franklin Delan or Roosevelt or you know, one of these
people who really plots out things, but somehow it seems
to come out right, at least in my view.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Well, you know again, I think that you're the polar
opposite of John. John is a very intelligent guy. You
are an equally intelligent guy. And it's funny that the
two folks who are both really smart, see it very differently.
And that's what I love about nightside. I have a
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variety of callers, and I encourage people of whatever their
point of view to call and have a conversation.
Speaker 7 (28:55):
And I'm certainly glad you do.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Dan.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
All right, you didn't get as much time as John, but.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
That's quite all right.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
You did all right, right, thanks, thank you, all right, man,
talk to you soon. Good night. We get back. We
had a couple more calls. At least.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
We could take this into the next hour if you want,
and we could sort of do a deep dive on
Donald Trump. I do want to talk a little bit
before the evening is out about another subject. We'll get
to that. Bob and Rhode Island. The waits on the
other side. Bob, you stay right there. I know that
you're going to be a fun caller that's always your
your fund six one, seven, two five ten thirty six
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one seven, ten thirty Back on nights Side after.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
This, You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w
B Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Back to the phones we go. Let me go to
Bob and Rhode Island. Bob, welcome back.
Speaker 8 (29:45):
Hello there, Dan, Hey, Bob. Where's the wall? Jimmy Kimmel
is going to have a lot of ammunition after the
way Trump's been speaking the last two days of the
United Nations and about the supporting.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
CA and his all his bs.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
I can't wait to see the pro Kimmel's program tonight.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Well, get that TV that TV said warmed up and
make sure that you're watching.
Speaker 8 (30:14):
Okay, Yeah, there's a lot of people in Hollywood that
field just like Jimmy does and did Disney. They capitulated
to the pressure because they were losing money. More so
after that, well, the way they took Kimmel off the air,
they finally spottened up Disney. I think Trump is Trump
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is getting to be delusional, just like Richard Nixon was
before the end before he resigned, And I can only
hope that they don't impeach him. That he resigns on
his own because it's about smartest thing Trump could do.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, anything that Trump has done did you think is
positive about?
Speaker 8 (30:57):
Yeah? One thing? One thing. I didn't agree with Biden
if he wanted to part in all the student loans.
I think Trump is against that, and I agree with
Trump on that. But beyond that, nothing else.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Who was a better president in your mind? Biden or Trump?
So far?
Speaker 8 (31:17):
No question? Biden. Okay, Harris would have been a lot
better too. And she's got a book out now.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah she's trashing.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Oh you know what, if I were you, Bob all
kidding aside, I would And this is just some friendly advice.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
I hope you take it, but you don't have to.
If I were you, I would send a check to
if there's some sort of.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
A committee out there Harris in twenty eight, send you know,
a thousand dollars.
Speaker 8 (31:48):
I don't care who it is, as long as the
Republican gets hopefully.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I'm just trying to give you the heads up that
you could get on the Harris train a little early
and maybe you could, you know, actually work as it.
Speaker 8 (32:02):
Harris. It could be Gavin Newsom, it could be a
lot of you should send.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Money, send money to send money to Newsom, send money
to Harris, send money.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
To one, and any Democrat will probably get elected.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
What I'm saying is you're going to cover the field.
You gotta feel like got some skin in the game, Bob,
is what I'm trying. I'm just trying to help you
out here.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
I don't need skin in the game. I got a
vote and that's all I need.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Well, you what you could do is you could have
some receptions for the candidates.
Speaker 8 (32:35):
You send some money to Trump because he's gonna need
it with all his loss.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I don't support any candidates financials.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
That's that's bold.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
All right, Here we go, Brib. I think he's I
think he's ready for a swim, Bob. Let me go
to Will in Long Island. Will, How are you welcome?
Speaker 6 (32:54):
Oh my god?
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Tough act to.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Follow, though, No, it's not, it really is. I mean
not if anybody has a brain and they're listening, you know,
you're just too nice of a guy. I mean, you know,
I think a lot of our arguments, when we do
have arguments, that isn't even the issue. It's me disagreeing
with how nice you are to some of these people.
Like Charlie Kirk was like you, actually he was so nice.
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He was so and they call him a racist anyway.
So I looked at it like, let's say the two
of us are in the same position with someone like
Bob Right, you will reason with them, and even you're
all the callers that you give him way too much
praise before, but you give them, you know, you do
the Socratic method. You take them down and you try
to lead them to the water. I believe more like
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anyone listening to them that thinks that what they're saying
may have some validity, I believe in pummeling them into oblivion,
like Mark Levin, so everyone so they can be exposed
to everyone else. Right, Because I'm not changing this guy's mind,
You're just who you spoke to. Can I change his mind?
How can I change his mind? But don't have to.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Argument.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
No, let me just try to explain. First of all,
I want I try not to. First of all, the
two very different callags. John I respect a lot. He
has done his homework. He's really good. Bob has sort
of a you know, uh, John has an intellectual He
despises Trump intellectually, he has reasons for it. Okay, but
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but Bob has a much more visceral argument, and so
you know I was encouraging Bob to get involved for
the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I will agree, I told you did.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
I will agree that Bob is just much more uninformed. Right, So,
if I'm talking to John, I already know what perspective
he's coming at it from, right, so and and in
his mind, I'm a Trump supporter, right, all of us
that voted for Trump were Trump supporters. I don't remember
being a Reagan supporter. I don't remember being a Clinton
supporter when I voted for I don't remember being a
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Bush supporter. I voted for George Bush, I voted for
Bill Clinton. Now I'm a Trump supporter. See here's how
critical thinkers work, Okay, which is why I don't like
throwing a word liberal around to everybody on the left,
because Thomas Paine would roll over in his grave if
he knew what we were calling liberal today. Okay. A
critical thinker has a hierarchy of priorities, right that they
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have played Devil's advocate within themselves and their self talk
multiple times and watched all different sources and read all
different types of information to get to their core beliefs.
They've been challenged, They've challenged them themselves, right, and then
they have their hierarchy of priorities. And since you're only
giving me a coin cost on red or blue, which
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one I could choose? Right, I listened to the candidates,
and then I see who matches up most with my
hierarchy of priorities, regardless of how much despicable behavior I
may have to excuse, because regardless of who I vote for,
there's going to be a mountain of that stuff. Right,
They're human beings. They have a lot of baggage coming in.
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If you listen to Trump in the UN. The things
I loved about Trump is when he sat across from
Germany and other Europeans and said, we're paying for NATO.
This is years ago. We're paying for NATO while you're
bringing in billions of dollars of Russian oil and you're
giving them money to build their military so that we
could pay to protect you. How does that make sense? Right?
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When they were building the pipeline.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I look, will, we're running very point.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
You don't have to convince me of the amount of
time and thought, and you're not someone who else My
recollection is you at different points have believed differently, and
you question your points of view.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
So look, you're always welcome on this program.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Whether we agree or disagree, we always have I think
pleasant conversations.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Bob gets a little personal, and that's why he got
the plank tonight.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
So you know, I think Bob is just a little
bit blinded by his anger, and I think that John
is just a little bit blinded by bias. But at
the end of the day, the things that Trump says
up there today, at the u end, the things that
bothered me the most about this stuff is when he's
patting them on the back telling him he deserves the
Nobel Peace Prize, but calling out countries and telling them
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that your countries are falling apart. There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
I really love you with that.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
And I think again, I think that they're talking. I
think he doesn't help himself with the Peace Prize. He's
upset that Obama got a peace prize back in two
thousand and nine.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I'll not being George Bush.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
You got peace prize for that.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
That's a good one. All all right, Well, I got
a rock. We'll talk, So thanks much for calling. I
appreciate nice bell calls here that hour, that's for sure. Uh,
we'll be back on Night's side right after.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
The ten o'clock news.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
If you want to keep talking about Trump and the UN, fine,
If not, I'm going to switch topics coming back after
this
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WVS Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well, today began the eightieth General Assembly of the United Nations.
The United Nations was formed after World War Two. In
let's see, it would have been nineteen forty six. If
I'm not mistaken, this is the eightieth birthday. I think
I'm right on that. If I'm off, maybe it was
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forty five September forty five.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Bottom life has been around for a long time.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It certainly has had its share of criticism launched at it,
and today was no exception. President Donald Trump delivered a
speech that was interesting. I watched a lot of the
speech this morning. A lot of it was what you
would expect to hear from Donald Trump when he speaks
to a world body, and he's speaking to the biggest,
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most influential world body assembly of whatever it is, one
hundred and seventy representatives of governments from countries around the world.
And I found one article in the BBC by a
gentleman named him James Landale, a diplomatic correspondent for the BBC,
And I'm just going to intersplice some of the sound
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of the President today at the UN with the article.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
The article is very accurate. It says six years ago
Trump's UN audience laughed. This year they were silent.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Well, they were more than silent. They were respectful. They
applauded a few times.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I thought that.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
The President had the misfortune of the telepropter going down,
and I just thought to myself, Gee, if that had
happened a year ago when Joe Biden was president, I
don't really know what Joe Biden would have done.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Donald Trump, as is his.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Practice, he vamped for a while, joked about the teleprompted
going down. At the same time, apparently an escalator he
and the first lady were riding on at the UN
building stopped midway up from one floor to the next,
and he went on and bragged a little bit about
how he was in good shape and that his wife
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was as well. Again, my mother used to tell me
that self praise is no praise, but obviously she never
talked to Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Let's go to cut thirty.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
This is sort of his vamping a little bit while
they did get the teleprompter working.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Finally, cut thirty.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Rob I ended seven wars, dealt with the leaders of
each and every one of these countries, and never even
received a phone call from the United Nations offering to
help in finalizing the deal. All I got from the
United Nations was an escalator that on the way up
stopped right in the middle. If the first lady wasn't
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in great shape, she would have fallen. But she's in
great shape. We're both in good shape. We both stood.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
And then a.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Teleprompter that didn't work. This is These are the two
things I got from the United Nations. A bad escalator
and a bad teleprompter. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
That was a little human note in which I think
actually worked his advantage. He obviously at that point was
doing Donald Trump. Donald Trump does like I don't want
to compare him to Don Rickles, but Donald Donald, you know,
just basically kind of taking it as the situation demanded,
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you lose your teleprompter, and it came back. It did
come back. And then he decided to go after European countries.
And as the article here said, the president, well, he said,
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James Lanesdale Landale wrote for almost almost over almost an hour,
he meaning the President, took aim at his opponents and
their ideas, picking them off one by one as he
toured the world. Began at home praise in the US
and himself. He said the US was living through a
golden age. We've heard that before, and repeated his much
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disputed claim that he personally ended seven wars, something he
argued merited him the Nobel Peace Prize. There are probably
was some sort of a poll that was done today
that I think only twenty seven percent of the American
people think he deserved a Nobel Peace Prize. Well, if
he was, if he's ever able to bring the Ukraine
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Russian conflict to a close, and he did make some
news on that today. He met on what's called the
sidelines with Vololdimir Zolenski, the President of Ukraine, and changed
his tune very much on.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
The Russians.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And we talked about last week and I think that
he now understands that Vladimir Putin, I think played him
and played him fully. So the President went on to
go after European countries, linking their open border problems with
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the order the open border problems that we had under
Joe Biden. This is cut thirty one, please cut thirty.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
According to the Council of Europe in twenty twenty four,
almost fifty percent of inmates and German prisons were foreign
nationals or migrants. In Austria the number was fifty three
percent of the people in prisons were from places that
weren't from where they are now. In Greece the number
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was fifty four percent. And in Switzerland, beautiful Switzerland, seventy
two percent of the people in prisons are from outside
of Switzerland. When your prisons are filled with so called
asylum seekers who repaid kindness, and that's what they did,
they repaid kindness with crime, it's time to end the
failed experiment of open borders.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
You have to end it now.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, he took aim and there's a lot of what
he said that there is crime in Europe, always has
been crime in Europe, but it has ticked up in.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
The last few years with all of the problems in
the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
He went on to talk about the United Nations specifically
and blame them for funding a lot of the illegal
immigration that comes into the US, and he basically accused
the UN of funding the arrival in the millions of dollars.
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I'll play that for well, Rob a play at Cup
thirty two, please rub.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
In twenty twenty four, the UN budgeted three hundred and
seventy two million dollars in cash assistance to support an
estimated six hundred and twenty four thousand migrants journeying into
the United States. Think of that, the UN is supporting
people that are illegally coming into the United States and
then we have to get them out. The UN also
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provided food, shelter, transportation, and debit cards to illegal aliens.
Can you believe that on the way to infiltrate our
southern border? Millions of people came through that southern border
just a year ago. Millions and millions of people were
pouring in twenty five million altogether over the four years
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of the incompetent Biden administration, and now we have it stopped,
totally stopped. In fact, they're not even coming anymore because
they know they can't get through.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
He certainly says what's on his mind.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
There's no doubt about that, and I was surprised that
with all of the criticisms, and we have some more sound.
But the sound I really want to hear is your
reaction to to his speech today and also his change
of tone later on today. He said that he believes
now that Ukraine can win back the land that Russia
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now temporarily or the Russian that Russia now controls in Ukraine,
particularly in the east of Ukraine. So didn't talk about
Crimea specifically because I think that is a literally a
bridge too far. But uh, he's changing his tone. Russia
has gotten much more adventures him in the last few
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days with some planes incursions over Estonia and over Poland
there's some thought that that the next Russian plane that
strays into into the airspace of a NATO country, Uh,
those Russian pilots might be shot down and those planes
might be shot down. And President Trump seemed to give
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a green light to that, very different than his meeting
at the White House with Voldemir Zolynsky President Zolensky back
in February.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
So the one thing that Donald Trump is able to
do is he changes his mind. Some things he won't
change his mind on.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
But I think he's changed his mind on Vladimir Putin,
and he is making fun of the European countries that
are buying so much of their heating oil and their
gas from Russia. In effect, they are funding a war
against Ukraine, and a war that easily could slip over
into their countries that border Russia and Ukraine. So taking
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a quick break, I just would love to know your impressions.
I think he was received very well today at the
United Nations, and I think that the speech that he
had prepared. Uh, again, there was nothing new in the speech,
but it was clearly a complete restatement of so many
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of the things that he has talked about here domestically,
the things that some people like and the things that
some people abhor.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Six seven six one seven nine. Coming right back on
the night Side after this break.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
All right, well, we're going to continue working some sound
from President Trump today. Again, the big news story is
a change in tone towards Russia. He had a meeting,
a side meeting with President Zelensky, and it seemed that
that probably was a very much different meeting than he
had earlier this year at the White House, when he
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berated Zelensky and basically said, you don't have the cards,
suggesting to him that there was no way he was
going to be able to win back the territory that
the Russians had already occupied. Today said very different things.
Let's go to John in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
John welcome back.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Go right ahead, John, all right, Well, I'm going to
agree with you that this speech to the UN, along
with his previous speech last night, alongside off K Junior
about autism, they were delivered with all the grace, class
and level of intellect that one has come to expect.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Well, I think that last night was a really poorly
executed presentation. I don't think that that inspired any any
confidence in anyone. Again, I think Tod's speech, I assure you, well,
no I disagree with you.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
You do you want me?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
You want me to do?
Speaker 5 (11:57):
You want me to detail? Do you want me to detail? Well?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
How much time do you have? You know you probably
have more time than I and give you what I was.
Here's what my overall observation was. I'd like you to
respond to it. I fully expected that there would be
members of the General Assembly who would choose to walk
out during this speech. I didn't see any do that,
which is to me is interesting and the article that
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I read from the BBC made note of that as well.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I think that to that audience today he was received
very well.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
They giggled and laughed with him when he had to
vamp with the the teleprophter going down, and I thought, again,
there was a lot of braggadocia. We expect that from
Donald Trump. But I thought that later in the day
his meeting with Zelensky was the news of the day
and the change in tone towards putin. That's what I'm
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focused on. But I'll give you an opportunity to go
and make your points.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Go right ahead.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Sure, I could give you a rundown of all the
wildly fallacious claims he made, such as saying that China
has invested little in wind farms. They are, in fact
the world's leader in wind energy. In saying that that
we had three hundred thousand drug drug desks last year,
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we had one fifth on them. Mount I mean, I
could go, I can just go down the list.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
We will lose it about.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
One hundred thousand people every year, don't I don't know
how many drug debts we had. Well, if you're going
to quote something and I let's just go on China.
I'm gonna let you go on anything you say that
I know to be true. But we have about seventy
eighty thousand drug debts every year of FENTA. They have
come down, they have come down a little bit, I
think because the border has been closed. But there are
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other drugs that kill people in America too. We still
have heroin.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Out of the streets, and a lot of that is
laced with fentanel.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
By the way, go ahead, But I want but I
want to address your main points. I mean, he he's
threw our insults in other countries and insulted them for
pursuing green energy, even though ten years ago more energy
was generated worldwide from renewables than from coal, for example,
and of course insulted the scientific communities, said, you know,
the global warming is cooked up by you know, a
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hoax perpetrated by dumb people. And he called those names.
He called other nations their failing nations.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Let me, I'm going to play the globe. John.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I'm trying to help you here, So hold on for seconds. Okay,
this is Donald Trump on global warming today at the
United Nations cut thirty four.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Please rob global come on, Rob, get it going.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Global warming not happening. You know, it used to be
global cooling. If you look back years ago in the
nineteen twenties and the nineteen thirties, they said global cooling
will kill the world.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
We have to do something.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Then they said global warming will kill the world, and
it started getting cooler. So now they could just call
it a climate change because that way they can't miss climate change.
Because if he goes higher or lower, whatever the hell happens,
is climate change. It's the greatest con job ever perpetrated
on the world. In my opinion, climate change, No matter
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what happens, you're involved in that. No more global warming,
no more global cooling. All of these predictions made by
the United Nations and many others, often for bad reasons,
were wrong. They were made by stupid people that of
course their country's fortunes and given those same countries no
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chance for success. If you don't get away from this
green scam, your country is going to fail.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
So you're correct.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
He obviously continues to hammer away at global warming.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Go right ahead, John, I'll give you an opportunity to respond.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Sure. Sure. So they were respectful today, I think because
they've learned UH that he takes any sign of personal
disrespect and translates that into UH an abuse of US
government power and public policy. Example given like when he
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hiked tariffs on Brazil because they were prosecuting his friend
jar Bolsonario or Bolsonaro's failed attempt at subverting election in Brazil,
and he outright said that's why he was hiking the
tariffs on Brazil.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
But he made no bones about that's he's honest. So again,
if you if you think that some that some some
some small countries, that he was up there taking names
of people walking out, you can you can assume that
they all sat there in terror if you want, John,
but go read the BBC.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
I wanted to indulge. They know what he is. They
know what he is.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Okay, John, you don't like the guy. John, you sing
the same song every time you call here. I just
like to hear something new from you. Were you surprised
that he changed his view today after his meeting with Zelensky?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Or or is that is that now? Has he become
a warmonger?
Speaker 5 (17:11):
I'm glad he's caught up with the rest of the world.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Oh good for you, Good for you, John, You've given
him him. He's a little slow in your mind, but
he at least his cock up. Okay, John, you're you're
antipathy towards him. I don't think helps your your argument.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I want I want you.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
To to to make your points effectively. And bring people
over to your side. All you're doing is repeating the
same criticisms as with as much vitriol as as he
uses it.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I just think you're not gonna win any arguments that way.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
I don't sew. I don't spew unsupported insults towards citing
his record.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
John, you don't you I want to use the word,
but I don't want to use the H word. You
just despise the guy.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Okay, you you he's he's done nothing. Well, can you
name me one thing that you agree with with Donald Trump?
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Let's see uh in his place in his previous term,
he uh he grounded the Boeing planes with with the
faulty software. He also uh put a stop to a
marketing campaign where uh h vaping companies were using like
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fruit flavored and candy flavored additives and they were targeting
the youth market. But but here's the here's the here's
the thing.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But but no, no credit for closing the border, right John,
No no credit for tightening up on the border.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
You'll you'll pick a couple of things that no one
has ever heard of. They give him credit for.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
This, He's gonna say, Okay, like with Richard Nixon. I
think Donald Trump up engages in criminal actions. I think
he's a contemptuous of US constitution. I'm not going to
play a game. Well, we have to pick out specific
policies that he may have done well on.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
You despise him, John, If that was the best you
come up with, you made my argument. John, I'm into
my newscast. You've gotten eight minutes right now. I've short
changed you the other night. I wanted to give you
some time tonight and again next time you call, come
at us with some some things we haven't heard of.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Be you know one of my arguments. Tell me how
I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
No, what I'm saying is that your arguments are there's
nothing that this guy can do that you know, even
when he turns around, I would argue with you. And
I'm going to be very brief that he thought, Okay,
maybe I can get Putin to do the right thing.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
And guess what I did.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
An hour last week, a couple of hours that Putin
has played Trump. Okay, Putin has played Trump. He at
least now I think realizes that. And I think he's
going to go the other way now. If nuclear war starts,
no matter what happens, you're gonna have some way to
criticize him. He either was too soft on Putin or
(20:11):
he's gonna be too hard on Putin, no matter what.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
He does, no matter was he did he did.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Did you approve of him whipping out the nuclear power plants? Uh,
the nuclear reactors into in.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Iran, Well one was wiped out. But yeah, I approve
if if that's.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
A big step, John, that was that was one of
those big That was one of those big decisions that
a president.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Makes with respect.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
It's like, I'm not playing this game where we have
an individual in office who is contemptious of the constitution.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Okay, see again, John, You're you're overwhelmed. You're kind even
you don't want to discuss it intellectually. You're overwhelmed, John,
do me a favor.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Take a time over. Believe me, nothing about it.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Go have a glass wine.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Go have a glass of wine and relax and enjoy
the rest of the show. You got nine minutes, actually
nine minutes and fifty seconds. That's that is a long time.
And I appreciate your callers always, thank you, my friend.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
I enjoy your show.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
I'll do without the wine. I appreciate your show.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Thank you very much. Okay, you have a beer whichever
you prefer. We'll be back right after the news here
at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Okay, now that John and I had our weekly conversation,
let me go to Steven Cambridge.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Hey, Steve, are you Dan?
Speaker 7 (21:39):
I'm fine? How are you?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I'm great, and I'm very happy to hear your voice.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
What was your thought on what the President did today
in his speech or what he did afterwards following his
meeting with Zelenski.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Well, Dan, I voted for Trump three times times because
not so much because I liked Donald Trump, but because
I really did not like the direction the Democrats were
taking the country and would like to take the country.
And I've never liked Donald Trump's free willing style and
(22:19):
his propensity to demonize.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And this is his own bregadaccio. Also, I mean, it's like,
you know, he as I said before, my mom told
me many years ago, self praise is.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
No praise.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Either. Something has happened with me because when I heard
I heard what he said at the un previous to
what you've played on your show, and I'm kind of like,
you know, No, there's never been a politician, certainly our
government leader in my lifetime, who's ever talked like this.
(23:02):
He seems to just it's almost as if Dan that
he's not really speaking literally, he's kind of everything is
kind of I don't know how to put it, but
I don't think you can parse what he says and
says is this is this accurate or is this inaccurate?
I think somehow he's kind of getting at the truth,
(23:23):
but it's certainly not in a very literal way. And
I kind of liked the way he talked, and I
think people at the UN were so, you know, to
hear someone speak just so extemporaneously and without a great
deal of concern for detail probably was kind of refreshing
(23:45):
for them.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Here here, here, for example, he just he went in
so many different directions. Here, Well he talks here about Palestine. Now, well,
this is the moment in time when a bunch of
our allies, Canada, the United Kingdom, Great Britain, Australia and
(24:08):
now France are choosing to recognize Palestine. We talked about
that last night. Here's what he had to say about that.
Today he could have spoken about what he wanted to
and by definition chose not to speak about what he
did and want to. This is Donald Trump Cut thirty five,
rob Let's hope that the machines are not acting up
cut thirty five.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
As everyone knows, I have also been deeply engaged in
seeking a cease firing Gaza. Have to get that done,
have to get it done. Unfortunately, Hamas has repeatedly rejected
reasonable offers to make peace. We can't forget October seventh,
can we now? As if to encourage continued conflict, some
(24:49):
of this body seeking to unilaterally recognize a Palestinian state.
The rewards would be too great for Hamas terrorists.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
For their atrocities.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
This would be a reward for these horrible atrocities, including
October seventh, even while they refused to release the hostages
or accept the cease fire. Instead of giving to Hamas
and giving so much because they've taken so much, they
have taken so much. This could have been solved so
(25:24):
long ago. But instead of giving in to Hamas's ransom demands,
those who want peace should be united with one message,
release the hostages now.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Just release the hostages now.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
So there's a little bit of applause there somewhat reluctant.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
That's pretty amazing, pretty amazing.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
There was no soaring rhetoric.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
No, no, you know, ruffles and flourishes, no line that
someone might remember or we might remember, you know, going forward.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
But it was definitely not I have a dream speech.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
No it was not.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
It was not asked, not what your country could do
for you, but what you could do for your country
was not mister Gorbachev, tear down this wall.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
There was no line that's going to be remembered from it.
That's not what he does.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
That's not his not his style, and certainly is in
his his forte.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
But you liked it.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
I liked it, and I think maybe I'm beginning to
understand his kind of I've always been very unhappy with
the way he expresses himself and his lack of care
for detail. But if he can somehow seem to kind
of work things out, particularly in Ukraine, particularly in Gaza,
(26:50):
the way he worked things out on the border, for example,
I think that would be and I think there's a
chance he'd do it.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I don't know. My frustration with John was when I
asked him, you know, what has he done that you like?
He talked about, you know, changing some coloring dye. And
I remember when Boeing was having problems with their engines.
You'd have to be a fool. Although John might might
think that Trump is a fool not to have grounded
some flights, and I just think that I think the
(27:21):
decision to take to take Iran off the stage of
nuclear players was a big gamble, was a big decision
and one that frankly, it was the right one to make.
Speaker 7 (27:31):
I don't know is it appears was it appears it
was the right one to make. And you know, he's
certainly not perfect, there's no question about that. There's some
people who feel, you know, Dan, I'm going to just
close with this. You know, there are people that say
they have a Trump derangement syndrome. Nothing he can do
(27:52):
is right. You know, we know those people they sometimes
call your program might think sometimes, but there are also people, Dan,
who feel that nothing Trump can do is wrong. Yes,
and that's derangement. But somehow he seems to always come
out things are better than when he got in there.
(28:13):
And I don't know how he does it because he
doesn't appear like he's a real clear thinkers. He's no
Franklin Delan or Roosevelt or you know, one of these
people who really plots out things, but somehow it seems
to come out right, at least in my view.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Well, you know again, I think that you're the polar
opposite of John. John is a very intelligent guy. You
are an equally intelligent guy. And it's funny that the
two folks who are both really smart, see it very differently.
And that's what I love about nightside. I have a
(28:50):
variety of callers, and I encourage people of whatever their
point of view to call and have a conversation.
Speaker 7 (28:55):
And I'm certainly glad you do.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Dan.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
All right, you didn't get as much time as John, but.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
That's quite all right.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
You did all right, right, thanks, thank you, all right, man,
talk to you soon. Good night. We get back. We
had a couple more calls. At least.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
We could take this into the next hour if you want,
and we could sort of do a deep dive on
Donald Trump. I do want to talk a little bit
before the evening is out about another subject. We'll get
to that. Bob and Rhode Island. The waits on the
other side. Bob, you stay right there. I know that
you're going to be a fun caller that's always your
your fund six one, seven, two five ten thirty six
(29:29):
one seven, ten thirty Back on nights Side after.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
This, You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w
B Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Back to the phones we go. Let me go to
Bob and Rhode Island. Bob, welcome back.
Speaker 8 (29:45):
Hello there, Dan, Hey, Bob. Where's the wall? Jimmy Kimmel
is going to have a lot of ammunition after the
way Trump's been speaking the last two days of the
United Nations and about the supporting.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
CA and his all his bs.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
I can't wait to see the pro Kimmel's program tonight.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Well, get that TV that TV said warmed up and
make sure that you're watching.
Speaker 8 (30:14):
Okay, Yeah, there's a lot of people in Hollywood that
field just like Jimmy does and did Disney. They capitulated
to the pressure because they were losing money. More so
after that, well, the way they took Kimmel off the air,
they finally spottened up Disney. I think Trump is Trump
(30:39):
is getting to be delusional, just like Richard Nixon was
before the end before he resigned, And I can only
hope that they don't impeach him. That he resigns on
his own because it's about smartest thing Trump could do.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, anything that Trump has done did you think is
positive about?
Speaker 8 (30:57):
Yeah? One thing? One thing. I didn't agree with Biden
if he wanted to part in all the student loans.
I think Trump is against that, and I agree with
Trump on that. But beyond that, nothing else.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Who was a better president in your mind? Biden or Trump?
So far?
Speaker 8 (31:17):
No question? Biden. Okay, Harris would have been a lot
better too. And she's got a book out now.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah she's trashing.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Oh you know what, if I were you, Bob all
kidding aside, I would And this is just some friendly advice.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
I hope you take it, but you don't have to.
If I were you, I would send a check to
if there's some sort of.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
A committee out there Harris in twenty eight, send you know,
a thousand dollars.
Speaker 8 (31:48):
I don't care who it is, as long as the
Republican gets hopefully.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I'm just trying to give you the heads up that
you could get on the Harris train a little early
and maybe you could, you know, actually work as it.
Speaker 8 (32:02):
Harris. It could be Gavin Newsom, it could be a
lot of you should send.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Money, send money to send money to Newsom, send money
to Harris, send money.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
To one, and any Democrat will probably get elected.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
What I'm saying is you're going to cover the field.
You gotta feel like got some skin in the game, Bob,
is what I'm trying. I'm just trying to help you
out here.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
I don't need skin in the game. I got a
vote and that's all I need.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Well, you what you could do is you could have
some receptions for the candidates.
Speaker 8 (32:35):
You send some money to Trump because he's gonna need
it with all his loss.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I don't support any candidates financials.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
That's that's bold.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
All right, Here we go, Brib. I think he's I
think he's ready for a swim, Bob. Let me go
to Will in Long Island. Will, How are you welcome?
Speaker 6 (32:54):
Oh my god?
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Tough act to.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Follow, though, No, it's not, it really is. I mean
not if anybody has a brain and they're listening, you know,
you're just too nice of a guy. I mean, you know,
I think a lot of our arguments, when we do
have arguments, that isn't even the issue. It's me disagreeing
with how nice you are to some of these people.
Like Charlie Kirk was like you, actually he was so nice.
(33:18):
He was so and they call him a racist anyway.
So I looked at it like, let's say the two
of us are in the same position with someone like
Bob Right, you will reason with them, and even you're
all the callers that you give him way too much
praise before, but you give them, you know, you do
the Socratic method. You take them down and you try
to lead them to the water. I believe more like
(33:39):
anyone listening to them that thinks that what they're saying
may have some validity, I believe in pummeling them into oblivion,
like Mark Levin, so everyone so they can be exposed
to everyone else. Right, Because I'm not changing this guy's mind,
You're just who you spoke to. Can I change his mind?
How can I change his mind? But don't have to.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Argument.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
No, let me just try to explain. First of all,
I want I try not to. First of all, the
two very different callags. John I respect a lot. He
has done his homework. He's really good. Bob has sort
of a you know, uh, John has an intellectual He
despises Trump intellectually, he has reasons for it. Okay, but
(34:27):
but Bob has a much more visceral argument, and so
you know I was encouraging Bob to get involved for
the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I will agree, I told you did.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
I will agree that Bob is just much more uninformed. Right, So,
if I'm talking to John, I already know what perspective
he's coming at it from, right, so and and in
his mind, I'm a Trump supporter, right, all of us
that voted for Trump were Trump supporters. I don't remember
being a Reagan supporter. I don't remember being a Clinton
supporter when I voted for I don't remember being a
(35:01):
Bush supporter. I voted for George Bush, I voted for
Bill Clinton. Now I'm a Trump supporter. See here's how
critical thinkers work, Okay, which is why I don't like
throwing a word liberal around to everybody on the left,
because Thomas Paine would roll over in his grave if
he knew what we were calling liberal today. Okay. A
critical thinker has a hierarchy of priorities, right that they
(35:23):
have played Devil's advocate within themselves and their self talk
multiple times and watched all different sources and read all
different types of information to get to their core beliefs.
They've been challenged, They've challenged them themselves, right, and then
they have their hierarchy of priorities. And since you're only
giving me a coin cost on red or blue, which
(35:44):
one I could choose? Right, I listened to the candidates,
and then I see who matches up most with my
hierarchy of priorities, regardless of how much despicable behavior I
may have to excuse, because regardless of who I vote for,
there's going to be a mountain of that stuff. Right,
They're human beings. They have a lot of baggage coming in.
(36:04):
If you listen to Trump in the UN. The things
I loved about Trump is when he sat across from
Germany and other Europeans and said, we're paying for NATO.
This is years ago. We're paying for NATO while you're
bringing in billions of dollars of Russian oil and you're
giving them money to build their military so that we
could pay to protect you. How does that make sense? Right?
(36:26):
When they were building the pipeline.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I look, will, we're running very point.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
You don't have to convince me of the amount of
time and thought, and you're not someone who else My
recollection is you at different points have believed differently, and
you question your points of view.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
So look, you're always welcome on this program.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Whether we agree or disagree, we always have I think
pleasant conversations.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Bob gets a little personal, and that's why he got
the plank tonight.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
So you know, I think Bob is just a little
bit blinded by his anger, and I think that John
is just a little bit blinded by bias. But at
the end of the day, the things that Trump says
up there today, at the u end, the things that
bothered me the most about this stuff is when he's
patting them on the back telling him he deserves the
Nobel Peace Prize, but calling out countries and telling them
(37:17):
that your countries are falling apart. There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
I really love you with that.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
And I think again, I think that they're talking. I
think he doesn't help himself with the Peace Prize. He's
upset that Obama got a peace prize back in two
thousand and nine.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I'll not being George Bush.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
You got peace prize for that.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
That's a good one. All all right, Well, I got
a rock. We'll talk, So thanks much for calling. I
appreciate nice bell calls here that hour, that's for sure. Uh,
we'll be back on Night's side right after.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
The ten o'clock news.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
If you want to keep talking about Trump and the UN, fine,
If not, I'm going to switch topics coming back after
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