October 8, 2025 • 35 mins
Tuesday night, on the 2-year anniversary of the start of the Israeli-Hamas war, thirteen people were arrested and four Boston Police officers were injured during a Pro-Palestinian rally that was taking place on Boston Common, which then moved onto other nearby streets. Reports say that protesters were blocking the street, preventing officers from responding to another incident nearby, when the violence erupted. Boston Mayor Wu said the city will not tolerate the violence and that those arrested should be “prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law” for attacking police officers. Larry Calderone of the BPPA joined us to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Belgium Boston's radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
For that's great news about the Bruins. Maybe the Bruins
go on defeated. This is the first game they haven't
been scored on. It's really some amazing possibilities for the
Bruins with their new coach Marco Sturm. I don't know
if Dan is still there, but I'm always an optimist.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
This might be the formula. Just shut everybody out and
you'll go eighty two and oh, I.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Mean yeah, exactly. Yeah, the other team doesn't score and
you kids just go on one a game, you'll be
all set. So absolutely to make the New Jersey Devils
from the mid nineties look like an a goal scoring powerhouse,
which they were not anyway. Great to talk with the
Dan good to stay in touch here anytime. Dan the
(00:44):
kid from Walpost pitch in a heck of a game
tonight for the Yankees. He's down two to one, but
he's the best pitcher that they have of that team.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
He's been unbelievable, only to only two strikeouts tonight though
against Toronto, compared to the what was it eleven that
he had against the side.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
That's okay, that's okay becoming a crafty right hander. You know,
you don't have to strike out eleven people every game. Anyway,
Very good, Thanks Ded. All Right, we're not going to
talk baseball, We're not going to talk hockey. We're going
to talk about another really ugly incident in Boston last night.
It was a pro Palestinian rally, which to me means
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a pro Hamas rally. It's a group that's called Students
for Justice in Palestine, and thirteen of these folks got
themselves arrested. Four police officers were injured in this in
this riot. It was a riot right near the State House,
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at the foot of Park Street and Tremont Street, by
the State House. And with us back forty eight hours
he was with us talking about the meetup situation earlier
this week and the problems that they had over the
weekend in the South End, and problems last night were
really nasty. Larry called around, welcome back to nightside.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
How are you sir, doing okay?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Dan? Yep, you're right.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Forty eight hours later, right back, yes, So thanks for
having me again. And I wish we were talking about
something better other than you know, police officers getting attacked
and physically assaulted.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, a couple of them ended up went with a
broken nose, with a broken finger. These these these are
thirteen and the whole group of them, they came to
raise havoc. As far as I'm concerned, this was not
some spontaneous situation that got out of control. They were
looking for a fight, as I wasn't there, But I'm
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assuming that you would not disagree with that.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Not at all. Dere mantur.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And they're posting that they have on their own social
media accounts say it's a week of rage and that's
what it's about. Apparently that rage was turned on the
police officers last night, and you know, we were outnumbered,
we were outmatched, and our officers paid the price, and
it's just it's despicable behavior and it should never happen,
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you know. On a bright note, I did see that
the District Attorney's office was successful today and the judge
issued a pretty harsh bail of ten thousand dollars, which
does make us happy. Some repercussions. Maybe people were listening
to your show the other night, and yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Did it happen to be the same judge who dealt
with the two Knuckles from Rhode Island. Or was it
a different judge if.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
You know, I don't know that, he answered, Okay, fine.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
So I just want to give people an idea about
who was there. Of the thirteen who were arrested, we'll
call the role here because I'm sure their parents are
very proud of them. Osama L. Katib He's twenty six
from Watertown. See how's we got here? Rohter Atwood, he's
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the guy who I think got nailed for punching the
police officer and wrote her from Somerville. He's twenty one.
He supposed he's a student tonight at Tufts University. Tufts
is a pretty good school, but I'm hoping that Tufts
might say to Rohoter, Hey, Rhoder, you're more interested in
writing than you are in reading, writing, arithmetic. Why don't
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you know, take a little leave of absence and get
your life together. Then we had Atlanta Carring Braun twenty
from Boston, Haley McIntyre twenty four from Dorchester. Madlyin weekel
Or Weichael twenty seven from Watertown. Jacob Pettigrew twenty two
from Malden. A moon prophet. That's a great name. Twenty
five from Alston, Laiath Hinzman nineteen from Boston, Benjamin Andre
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cou Crown twenty from Medford, Owen Woodcock twenty six from Boston,
Prolade a younger twenty five from Boston, Stick Hatch nineteen
from Boston, and Gabriel Smith twenty eight from Cambridge. So
they're all from surrounding communities and maybe one from Dorchester,
and they're all in their late teens early twenties. I
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mean they came to play here last night. I mean
they were looking, they were ready to rumble.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, I mean, look, they're not children, they're young adults.
They know right from wrong, and they've chosen the wrong
path and not quite sure what they were trying to
accomplish here, you know, attacking police officers just it just
shows how.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Violent you can be.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And the conversation I really want to have in stress
to people, Dan is if an individual at the age
of twenty two is willing to is willing to punch
a police officer square in the face and break his nose,
what would they do to a non uniformed person, somebody
that's not a law enforcement officer. They would have no
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regard for your life. Whatsoever. And it's shameful and I
don't know what we're going to do here in society.
If they're not strong repercussions for this type of behavior,
then we're just condoning it, and we're encouraging it, and
we're allowing these twenty year olds to think that they
can do whatever they want in society, they can hurt
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whomever they want. And it's really a sad day right now.
I hope the judges are going to hand down very
strong sentences and teach these kids a lesson and make
an example out of them for us.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
And I mean, even if they don't want to incarcerate them,
I'd like to see them incarcerated, but put that aside
for a moment. Give them some very serious community service time,
and if they don't show up and do the community service,
then you put them in jail.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Look, we're not advocating for someone to spend hard years
in jail for punching anyone. And I know that might
upset some police officers, to listen, but listen, there is
punishment that fits this crime. I'm definitely not saying slap
this kid on the wrist. This should be some hard punishment.
Maybe he should do thirty days in a cell. Maybe
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he should do six months of hard probationary period. But
I'm going to leave that up to the judiciary, and
I'm going to wait to hopefully the judge will compare
like sentencing for like crimes. But really we're not looking
for probation and a slap on the wrist. There has
to be a strong repercussion and a message sent here.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Well. The other the other problem is that if there
isn't a strong message, these folks were there for the
purpose of As I said, they were ready to rumble.
It's as simple as that. And then today at the court,
and I think you might have seen some of this tonight.
They had all of their their their signs and their
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and their cloth to prevent the TV reporters and the
photographers from even videotaping them. They consider themselves to be
very special people warry and you know that that's a huge,
huge problem in my opinion, And I just hope you
guys stay safe out there. And I'm going to appeal
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to my audience, and when we come back, I want
to hear my audience respond and I want them to
be angry about this because it needs. It needs to stop,
because if this doesn't stop, the and the kids get
away with it, and by the day they're not our kids.
There was a group of students for Justice in Palestine.
It's a very radical organization that is this is These
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are not peace marchers. These are people who are going
out looking for trouble and they found it last night
with the Boston Police Department. So tell you guys to
stay safe and let's let's see what happens. By the way,
I think we have to give a little bit of
a kudo to the governor today more Healy who said
that she held the news conference at at noontime at
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the State House. Were you were you need that at
any time today?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
By the way, she actually we had just completed the
reading of the role of Fallen Officers at the State House.
It's the Law Enforcement Memorial Foundation does a reading of
all the fallen officers, and the governor was there, spent
a good two hours with families to fallen officers, and
I'm very proud to leave that organization with the officer
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James Kennely of the Patrols Association.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
But we were there, we heard.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
The governor's speech, we had a nice conversation as she
continues to stand strong for law enforcement and that's what
we're looking for herself. Maya Wu again very strong words
in the news today about not tolerating this behavior, not
standing for it, and seeking the strongest possible punishment that
can be handed down. So that's what law enforcement offices
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expect from their elected officials. We're very happy with what
they're doing right now, and like I said, we're even
happy with what the judge did today. So hopefully it's
a turnaround and hopefully there's some respect that's going to
be handed out and shown to police officers because they
work hard.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Day and night.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
It's no secret how many hours up men and women
are working out there, excuse me, through the summer and
no days off, sixteen seventeen hour days, and to be
forced on overtime for this kind of crap, to get
assaulted by a bunch of spoiled twenty year olds, to
think it's okay to punch police officers, it's it cannot
be tolerated down well well.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yet two things. One, this reminds me very much of
the Occupy Wall Street activities of twenty ten twenty eleven Omember,
which blew out of control, and I hope that there's
some follow through, some active action and follow through. It's
one thing to have a news conference. I commend the
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governor for what she said today, but let's see if
she follows through. It's as simple as that. I'll believe
it when I see it, Larry, and I want we
have to back the blue. It's as simple as that,
because if now we're going to live in anarchy, Larry.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I mean, if I could, if I could give one
plug down. There is a very nice lady, the mother
of statewhere Presentative Jessica Giannino, who listens to you every
single night for hours, and she was praising our conversation
the other night. I'm sure she's listening tonight. I just
want to say thank you to her and her daughter,
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the state rep who is a staunch supporter of law enforcement.
So the more the more state representatives and the more
public officials that will speak up and stand up for
law enforcement, it becomes contagious.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, no question, And thanks very much for
mentioning that lady. There's a I want to send her
a big shout out from nightside as well, missus Giannino.
Thanks so much Larry, we'll.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Talk so all right, thank you, Dan, have a good
nighte Okay, I'm going.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
To open up the phone lines here and you you
read I think what happened last night. Can you imagine
if you're coming into Boston, uh, you know, to go
to dinner or to go to a meeting, and you
come up out of the Park Street station or you
come up out of the Undercommon garage and you realize
that you're in the middle of a melee. H This
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is not good for Boston. It's not good for our
city's reputation, and it has to stop. And these these losers,
and they are losers in my opinion. They're all out
there today trying to prevent the TV camera crew, the
TV reporters, and the TV camera crews from doing their job.
They are, you know, entitled little rich kids. The guy
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that punched the police officer who goes to toughts, well,
I hope tuffts take some action against him. Separated apart
from the courts. It doesn't give much of a of
a reputation, positive reputation to toughs when you've got twenty
year old kids of punching police officers. That's what I
read tonight and I heard on one of the newscasts
that this guy wrote her Atwood, who lives in Somerville
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is a student at Toughs. Well, wouldn't be there Toughs
for long if if I were the Profo's that's for sure,
So he should be happy. I just do a talk show.
I'm going to open up these phone line. I want
to hear from as many of you as possible, because
this is the point in time where you either support
the police, UH, and you understand that they're put in
a position every day, every day, almost an impossible position
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that when they respond as they should have last night,
they are going to be people out there who are
going to say, well, this is horrible. These are just
young kids. No, they're not the young revolutionaries. It's as
simple as that. If they had the ability, UH, they would,
they would run the government, and they there would be
no room for any point of view other than theirs.
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They love to practice the First Amendment, but if they
ever came to power in this country, in this country,
the First Amendment would be no more. My name's Dan Ray,
this is Night's. The only line open right now is
UH six one seven nine three one ten thirty. I
am dealing with a tough throat and kind of I
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don't know what it is. It's it's some sort of
a respiratory problem. You can help me out tonight by
joining the conversation so I can I can save my voice.
I want to hear your point of view. And by
the way, if you disagree with me, and if you
think that these kids who took on the cop the
police officers last night some sort of heroes of the revolution,
bring it on. Coming back on Nightside six nine thirty
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is the only line that is open right now.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm BZ Boston's
news Radio.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
All right, let's see what people have to say. This
this bothers me, It really does bother me. Let me
go to start this off this hour with Christian, who
is joining us to get the right mouse in my
hand and got too many papers and too many mice
on my desk. Christian in Peavity, Hi, Christian, welcome you
next time, your first this hour at Nightside. Christian are
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right ahead. Hello. Well, let's put Christian on hold then
Rob if he's not ready, Okay, let's go to Frank.
Frank is in west Roxbury. Frank, This says west Roxbury.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
He is good evening, Dan, I hope you're feeling better.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
No, I'm not actually to be honest with Yeah, I
have no idea. I have no idea how I got this.
I'm hoping what it means is I won't get anything
for the rest of the winter. But thank you very
much for your kind words.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Okay, So I'm just wondering. I've heard a lot about
this on the news what happened last night, and I
haven't heard any comment from the commissioner.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Have you No, No, I didn't watch every newscast tonight,
but I think the commission it tends to not be
available or accessible. We have tried to get the Commissioner
to come on this show and just talk to people
in Boston or talk to people who come in and
out of Boston every day, but he seems to be
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hesitant to do that. I've had several conversations with press
person who I knew very well. Uh, he would be
treated respectfully, but I just don't I see he's thinks.
I think he's someone who's not able to handle this.
He could he'll appear when there's a shooting and a
murder and he'll say that, you know, police are investigating
and that's about it. But no, uh, not not what
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I would consider to be an inspirational leader of the
men in his department.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I agree, and I think it would be good if
he would come on the show so people could call
and ask him questions.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, I mean we've had now this meet up. I
was very pleased with the governor today, who I've been
critical of. I thought that she did the right thing today.
Let's say if she follows through and uh and and really,
when this happens again, and it probably will, that they
really snap down on these folks that they've gotten noticed now,
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they they should be able to throw the book at them.
But this thing last night was even more well, I
don't know what's more, Dan, it was as dangerous as
the meetup, because here people were attacking police officers on
Saturday night Sunday morning, they were burning, they were torching
a police car.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
So I'm not too impressed with the commissioner, That's all
I can say. I'm sure those are very nice man,
but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, the few conversations I've had with him is very pleasant.
But again, leadership is a special special quality. Frank, thanks
very much. I got to take a CBS News special
report talking about the Middle East. Thanks my friend, thank
you for calling. Here's the CBS News special report.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
All right, let me go back to Christian. Christian, we
missed you before. Hopefully you're back now, go right ahead.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Is my phone working okay?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Uh, seems to be. I'm guessing you had us on mute.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
My phone is old. I'll get to the point before
it faves off.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
I think any one who is doing what they're doing
their integrity and the morals and valuers that are needed
them in the political and legal realm. Yes, I get
second chance, but the first thing is they need to
be hit hard. Let you know, you can't do this
go through the community service. But as far as in
the educational system, you have just cost yourself any process
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in learning legal law or political atmosphere because your mindset
can't have the stability needed to be in those realms.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I mean, I think the first thing you need to
do is take someone like that and suspend them for
at least a year. Let them go get their life together.
And maybe if they get their life together, they can
be brought back. In this group, Students for Justice in Palestine.
They are the same group that has caused the major
problems at colleges and universities around the country. They're not
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demonstrating for justice for Israel, for justice for Palestine. Uh And,
in effect, it's am us. This is the group that
likes to shout, you know, from the river to the sea,
and of course most people understand what that means is
there would be no Israel. Israel is literally from the
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river to the sea. But these are bad people. I mean,
they're very bad people, and they they have such disrespect
for our system of justice that they just I mean,
they'll they'll take on they will take on Boston police officers. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Yeah, that's why I'm saying they need to be you
know what, you have just cost yourself any opportunity to
be in the legal and profession of political because of
that unstable mindset. It needs to both Otherwise in olyfltry.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Someone should go back, uh and and just look up
national s JP dot org. They are this is clearly
you know, supporting over four hundred Palestine solidarity organizations across
occupied Turtle Island. By what they mean by occupied Turtle Island,
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that's so called North America. Okay, so they think Canada
and America, not as Canada and America, but they view
us as Turtle Island. And of course there's never been
in an area that is called Palestine per se. Okay,
Palestinians have lived in the Middle East for centuries, no question,
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but but there's no such place. I mean, you have Gaza,
but that's not Palestine per se. We aim to develop
a student movement, connected, disciplined, and equipped with the tools
necessary to pursue Palestinian liberation on our campuses. This is
a hardcore you know, communist organization simply.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Performers, Yeah, I mean they.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Give themselves away with their language and of course now
with their actions.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, it's just it can't be well. Thank you for
your time. To the callers, thank you, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Thank you, thank you very much. I appreciated Christian six
one seven, four ten thirty six one seven nine three
one ten thirty. There's there's another phrase a sentence here.
They have understanding the past shapes our movements, actions and
vision for the future. We want to hear how lessons
from history will guide us to liberation through the student
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into Fada and beyond. Submit your work to issue number
five through this link in our bio today. This is
heavily funded. I haven't done the research to tell you
who it's heavily funded by, but that these are these
are bad people. Now some of them are you know
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what they used to call you know, you know, use
useful fools. I mean people who who think that this
is a wonderful thing and all of that. But this
is a very dangerous organization as we have found out
in the last two years. Larry in Dennisport, Larry next
night side down on the Cape.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Hey Larry, Dan that was a heavy show last night,
that's for sure, and thank you again tonight. Yeah, I've
told you before. This hits me personally. My father was
a prisoner in the German prison camp in World War Two,
being Jewish. Lucky you survived.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Number two.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
My daughter has lived in Israel. Joel of who you
interviewed in the past, has been Israel for a year
or two. And my son is a Boston police officer,
been on the force for twenty years.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Was he involved in the in this riot last night?
Speaker 6 (22:51):
No, he is a detective he's been a detective of
for the last few years, so thank god he's off
the streets. But you know they're killing him with the work.
But here's my question to you, and I'm not sure
if this was when you attack a police officer, especially
the ones that got punched in the face, I assume
that's assault and battery, of course.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely right, it's assaulted. It's also assaulted battery
or a police officer, which is worse, I mean.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
If yeah, right, right, So my question would be, would
it be ever possible to pass a law that whatever
the punishment is for assault and battery, it would be
maybe even double if you assault anybody and law enforcements
maybe teach these kids a lesson because they have no
respect for authority.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Well, of course, here's the problem. Okay, the law is
on the books. Laws are on the books, and there
is I'm sure laws that involve assault and battery. Or
when when Mark Sanchez, the former New York Jets quarterback
got into the fight with the guy in Indianapolis the
other night, I think that they're both charged with some
uh some some activity. It looks like Sanchez might be
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facing more serious charges and he also I think got stabbed,
So I think he ended up on the wrong end
both of the law and of the altercation. But yeah,
you're going to have an enhanced penalty if you're talking
about something beyond assault and battery on you or me.
But assault and battery and a police officer, just like
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if there's assault and battery and someone over a certain age,
on an elderly person, that there's protections you know that
you'd like to think exist. But as far as I'm concerned,
this kid who punched the police officer, assuming you know,
assuming it is proven, and I'm sure that they can
prove it, you know, hit him with everything, hit him
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with the book. I mean, you know that's has to
make an example within the context of due process. But
make an example of him, hit him with a sentence,
put him in jail for a while. I mean, that's
that's a huge that's a huge step. You know, we're
not talking about some kid who was drinking a six
pack with his girlfriend behind the bleachers at the football stadium.
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We're not talking about some kid who was driving in
a car and was smoking a joint in the back
seat of the car. We're talking with somebody who broke
the nose of a police officer in a brawl, in
a fight. Yeah, I agree that covering this well, I
do intend to cover it, and I also want to
give a shout out and actually a kudo to the governor.
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I was surprised. I was happy to see her out
there today because look, there's bad stuff going on in
a lot of cities around the country. There's bad stuff
in Portland, bad stuff in Chicago. You've seen the stuff
we're done in Charlotte where the guy stabbed the woman
on the train from Ukraine. You've seen the story down
in New York where someone lit someone on fire and
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literally burned and bruned them to death in a inside
the tunnels. The system down in New York. This is
this is a horrible situation we find ourselves. People feel
they have license to do whatever they want. And got
to send a message. Thank you, Larry, appreciate your call.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
All right, I've got a couple of folks who dropped off,
so I'd love to hear from you. If you support
the police, please feel free to add your voice. If
you don't have the courage to support the police, well
then you know next time I'm here in trouble. I
don't know what you're gonna do, but we need Those
police were assaulted last night by a large crowd. They
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had to they had to stand their ground. They did fine.
They were thirteen people arrested, all losers. Thirteen losers and
four police officers were injured six seven, two, five, four ten,
thirty six seven nine. Be right back on Night's Side.
I'd love to have you joined the conversation.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
With Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Back to the phones we go, got to go to
Jeff in Abington. Jeff, welcome your next Night Side.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
This is just a start. It's gonna get a lot
worse with you. Woo and the governor have no control
over them. In fact, these are the people who vote
for Democrats, so they really don't want them to go away. Uh,
they'll give you a lip service. But the rank and
fire police don't like Woo, but they endorsed her.
Speaker 8 (27:36):
And.
Speaker 7 (27:39):
She's not going to back them. If one off, If
one of those officers shot one of those kids and
killed them, what do you think would happen to that
police officer?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
He'd be on trial. I mean, that's the that's the lesson.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
So you reput your soul. These kids know nothing's going
to happen.
Speaker 8 (27:56):
Two of them.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah, well they got arrested. I mean, they got arrested.
But now let's see what the judicial system does. Let's
see what the.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
DA because all the trouble at haven't and not much. No,
they didn't. So they you know, just like a child.
If child knows if you can get away with it,
he's gonna keep going that.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
You're absolutely right on your point. I think we're in
for some tough times here when you think about it.
Donald Trump has had a pretty successful first of six
or seven months of his presidency, and yet uh, there's
no one. There's so many people on the other side
(28:39):
who aren't even willing. I mean, tonight, it appears that
there might be a very significant breakthrough on the situation
in the Middle East. I didn't I.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
Didn't make extreme media. H Trump. You don't like.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Trump, Well, let me tell you what I feel about Trump. Okay,
there there are issues that he takes, positions he takes.
I think the wall had to be closed. I'm glad
he closed the wall. But then I think he does
things and he's sometimes his own worst enemy. So I'm
(29:14):
I'm like an umpire. To be really honest with you,
I'm going to call it.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
Didn't you make a statement He'll never be president of
the United States at one time?
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I did, I thought I and I admit to that. Okay,
I absolutely admit to that.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Jeff, would you find it?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Find it?
Speaker 7 (29:30):
It's been poisoning our youth? So the last ten years ago,
I haven't no do me a favor.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I haven't been poisoning anyone about Trump. If you've listened
to my show, and I hope you have, you know
I was extremely critical of Joe Biden. I was extremely You.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
Was surprised he was surprised at the debate how far
go on Biden was, And I wasn't surprised at all
because I follow things, I know people, I hear things.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, well, you might be smarter, you know, Jeff, you
might be a lot water than I am. I can
tell you.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
I gather information. You're You're more interested all your milk cottons.
I'm doing what milk rinsing all your milk cottons for recycling?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
What do you what do you do? You leave your
milk cottons dirty and leave them in your house? I mean,
come on, well, good for you, good for you. You're
a you're a you're a you're a person who obviously
has some positions and congratulations, congratulations. I would if I
were you, I would keep everything down, cellar and uh,
don't even take it. You know, it's a you're a
(30:39):
little off bas Joe at this point. But that's fine,
that's fine, that's fine. Okay, you you have no you
have no clue. Uh what. I don't know how much
you listen to my show, but if you listen to
my show, you would understand that I'm somebody who's not
going to be in anyone's pocket. I'm not going to
be a cheerleader for anyone.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
If Donald Trump can pull this off in the Middle East,
I will give him all the credit in the world.
It's as simple as that.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
You're a Democrat, you vote Democrat.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
You know something, you're making assumptions. First of all, I'm
not a Democrat. Yeah, absolutely, as most people are in Massachusetts.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
You won't even answer this question. But one last time
you voted for a Republican.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
You want to answer the question for president? Is that? Oh? Yeah,
I've voted for plenty of Republicans over the years. I've
voted for plenty of Democrats, simple as that, you know.
I mean, I voted for John McCain. In two thousand
and eight, I voted for Mitt Romney.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
Uh, did you tell me who you voted for the
last president?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I chose not to be really honest with you, Yeah,
what are you so afraid of? Well, I think that
Trump's temperament is his achilles heel, is what I'm trying
to say.
Speaker 7 (31:56):
What are you so afraid of to reveal who you've
voted for? What's going to happen?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Because I told you I did not vote for either
one of them. I chose not to vote, and and
I'm sorry that disappoints you, but you know that's the truth.
It's as simple as that. You have a right to
go to the polls and not vote. There's a lot
of I don't vote for anyone on the ballot when
they're running unopposed.
Speaker 7 (32:20):
So you think would be better off if Kamala Harris
was the president right now?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
No?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
No, I do not, No, I do not. I think
that she was a disaster, and I think that that
her time in the Democratic Party is long since over. Look, Jeff,
I've given you a lot of time here. You're welcome
to call me a lot.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Of time, because I'm probably your best call up you
ever have.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
You know, it may not be my best, but I
think you're the most modest. Jeff, I would say, thanks
very much. I have a great guy, Phil. Phil is
a great caller. Phil, welcome you.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
And that's on that side.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
You were reading my mind when I'm sorry, but no,
I don't know. There's so much stuff going on. Was
the it's so so many he's going on? Wasn't there
a Boston police cole was at New York when they
was on fire that in Boston.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Recently on Sunday morning down at the intersection of Tremont
in Mass Avenue.
Speaker 8 (33:21):
Yes, this dad, And I'm not any I don't run
an official guy. But the point is, why don't they
police When the police came in, they have report on Dorty. Okay,
so we have a problem with this way, a problem
of this way. When you told me that I know
the police, some police officer, I hear she got a
(33:43):
note boken. No, I'm thinking, okay, things should have No
why don't they give these like you have a spare
tire or you have a Jackham, you got something in
the car Why don't you put something in the trunk,
a life preserver? Why don't he put a helmet? Face?
You guy? Hit him.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I don't know the circum Look, I don't know the circumstances.
It could have It could have been, you know, look,
just think about it, Phil, it could have been the
police officers might have had on helmets and face shields,
but helmets and face shields and pantemonium can't get knocked off.
Speaker 8 (34:21):
A lot of mine got.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
A broken nose. Hey, Phil, thank you very much. You're
my best caller of the night.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Is offer.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Thanks talk you soon. Okay, you have a great night.
Good night. All right, we're going to continue this conversation.
I have two hours left and uh uh, I'm kind
of uh. I'm more than happy to talk to you
about anything. But I feel very strongly that if these
riots and the the the automobile meet up was a
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riot and last night was a ride, if they aren't stopped,
and you've got to give mar Healey a little bit
of credit today for getting out. And I'm sure that
they were play in her side of the aisle, who
weren't happy that she was that we'll play some of
her sound for you coming back here on nightside. It's
coming up on the ten o'clock news six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
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I can only invite you to join us coming back
on nightside.
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Belgium Boston's radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
For that's great news about the Bruins. Maybe the Bruins
go on defeated. This is the first game they haven't
been scored on. It's really some amazing possibilities for the
Bruins with their new coach Marco Sturm. I don't know
if Dan is still there, but I'm always an optimist.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
This might be the formula. Just shut everybody out and
you'll go eighty two and oh, I.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Mean yeah, exactly. Yeah, the other team doesn't score and
you kids just go on one a game, you'll be
all set. So absolutely to make the New Jersey Devils
from the mid nineties look like an a goal scoring powerhouse,
which they were not anyway. Great to talk with the
Dan good to stay in touch here anytime. Dan the
(00:44):
kid from Walpost pitch in a heck of a game
tonight for the Yankees. He's down two to one, but
he's the best pitcher that they have of that team.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
He's been unbelievable, only to only two strikeouts tonight though
against Toronto, compared to the what was it eleven that
he had against the side.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
That's okay, that's okay becoming a crafty right hander. You know,
you don't have to strike out eleven people every game. Anyway,
Very good, Thanks Ded. All Right, we're not going to
talk baseball, We're not going to talk hockey. We're going
to talk about another really ugly incident in Boston last night.
It was a pro Palestinian rally, which to me means
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a pro Hamas rally. It's a group that's called Students
for Justice in Palestine, and thirteen of these folks got
themselves arrested. Four police officers were injured in this in
this riot. It was a riot right near the State House,
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at the foot of Park Street and Tremont Street, by
the State House. And with us back forty eight hours
he was with us talking about the meetup situation earlier
this week and the problems that they had over the
weekend in the South End, and problems last night were
really nasty. Larry called around, welcome back to nightside.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
How are you sir, doing okay?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Dan? Yep, you're right.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Forty eight hours later, right back, yes, So thanks for
having me again. And I wish we were talking about
something better other than you know, police officers getting attacked
and physically assaulted.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, a couple of them ended up went with a
broken nose, with a broken finger. These these these are
thirteen and the whole group of them, they came to
raise havoc. As far as I'm concerned, this was not
some spontaneous situation that got out of control. They were
looking for a fight, as I wasn't there, But I'm
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assuming that you would not disagree with that.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Not at all. Dere mantur.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And they're posting that they have on their own social
media accounts say it's a week of rage and that's
what it's about. Apparently that rage was turned on the
police officers last night, and you know, we were outnumbered,
we were outmatched, and our officers paid the price, and
it's just it's despicable behavior and it should never happen,
(03:00):
you know. On a bright note, I did see that
the District Attorney's office was successful today and the judge
issued a pretty harsh bail of ten thousand dollars, which
does make us happy. Some repercussions. Maybe people were listening
to your show the other night, and yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Did it happen to be the same judge who dealt
with the two Knuckles from Rhode Island. Or was it
a different judge if.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
You know, I don't know that, he answered, Okay, fine.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
So I just want to give people an idea about
who was there. Of the thirteen who were arrested, we'll
call the role here because I'm sure their parents are
very proud of them. Osama L. Katib He's twenty six
from Watertown. See how's we got here? Rohter Atwood, he's
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the guy who I think got nailed for punching the
police officer and wrote her from Somerville. He's twenty one.
He supposed he's a student tonight at Tufts University. Tufts
is a pretty good school, but I'm hoping that Tufts
might say to Rohoter, Hey, Rhoder, you're more interested in
writing than you are in reading, writing, arithmetic. Why don't
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you know, take a little leave of absence and get
your life together. Then we had Atlanta Carring Braun twenty
from Boston, Haley McIntyre twenty four from Dorchester. Madlyin weekel
Or Weichael twenty seven from Watertown. Jacob Pettigrew twenty two
from Malden. A moon prophet. That's a great name. Twenty
five from Alston, Laiath Hinzman nineteen from Boston, Benjamin Andre
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cou Crown twenty from Medford, Owen Woodcock twenty six from Boston,
Prolade a younger twenty five from Boston, Stick Hatch nineteen
from Boston, and Gabriel Smith twenty eight from Cambridge. So
they're all from surrounding communities and maybe one from Dorchester,
and they're all in their late teens early twenties. I
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mean they came to play here last night. I mean
they were looking, they were ready to rumble.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, I mean, look, they're not children, they're young adults.
They know right from wrong, and they've chosen the wrong
path and not quite sure what they were trying to
accomplish here, you know, attacking police officers just it just
shows how.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Violent you can be.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And the conversation I really want to have in stress
to people, Dan is if an individual at the age
of twenty two is willing to is willing to punch
a police officer square in the face and break his nose,
what would they do to a non uniformed person, somebody
that's not a law enforcement officer. They would have no
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regard for your life. Whatsoever. And it's shameful and I
don't know what we're going to do here in society.
If they're not strong repercussions for this type of behavior,
then we're just condoning it, and we're encouraging it, and
we're allowing these twenty year olds to think that they
can do whatever they want in society, they can hurt
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whomever they want. And it's really a sad day right now.
I hope the judges are going to hand down very
strong sentences and teach these kids a lesson and make
an example out of them for us.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
And I mean, even if they don't want to incarcerate them,
I'd like to see them incarcerated, but put that aside
for a moment. Give them some very serious community service time,
and if they don't show up and do the community service,
then you put them in jail.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Look, we're not advocating for someone to spend hard years
in jail for punching anyone. And I know that might
upset some police officers, to listen, but listen, there is
punishment that fits this crime. I'm definitely not saying slap
this kid on the wrist. This should be some hard punishment.
Maybe he should do thirty days in a cell. Maybe
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he should do six months of hard probationary period. But
I'm going to leave that up to the judiciary, and
I'm going to wait to hopefully the judge will compare
like sentencing for like crimes. But really we're not looking
for probation and a slap on the wrist. There has
to be a strong repercussion and a message sent here.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Well. The other the other problem is that if there
isn't a strong message, these folks were there for the
purpose of As I said, they were ready to rumble.
It's as simple as that. And then today at the court,
and I think you might have seen some of this tonight.
They had all of their their their signs and their
(07:39):
and their cloth to prevent the TV reporters and the
photographers from even videotaping them. They consider themselves to be
very special people warry and you know that that's a huge,
huge problem in my opinion, And I just hope you
guys stay safe out there. And I'm going to appeal
(08:00):
to my audience, and when we come back, I want
to hear my audience respond and I want them to
be angry about this because it needs. It needs to stop,
because if this doesn't stop, the and the kids get
away with it, and by the day they're not our kids.
There was a group of students for Justice in Palestine.
It's a very radical organization that is this is These
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are not peace marchers. These are people who are going
out looking for trouble and they found it last night
with the Boston Police Department. So tell you guys to
stay safe and let's let's see what happens. By the way,
I think we have to give a little bit of
a kudo to the governor today more Healy who said
that she held the news conference at at noontime at
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the State House. Were you were you need that at
any time today?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
By the way, she actually we had just completed the
reading of the role of Fallen Officers at the State House.
It's the Law Enforcement Memorial Foundation does a reading of
all the fallen officers, and the governor was there, spent
a good two hours with families to fallen officers, and
I'm very proud to leave that organization with the officer
(09:11):
James Kennely of the Patrols Association.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
But we were there, we heard.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
The governor's speech, we had a nice conversation as she
continues to stand strong for law enforcement and that's what
we're looking for herself. Maya Wu again very strong words
in the news today about not tolerating this behavior, not
standing for it, and seeking the strongest possible punishment that
can be handed down. So that's what law enforcement offices
(09:38):
expect from their elected officials. We're very happy with what
they're doing right now, and like I said, we're even
happy with what the judge did today. So hopefully it's
a turnaround and hopefully there's some respect that's going to
be handed out and shown to police officers because they
work hard.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Day and night.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
It's no secret how many hours up men and women
are working out there, excuse me, through the summer and
no days off, sixteen seventeen hour days, and to be
forced on overtime for this kind of crap, to get
assaulted by a bunch of spoiled twenty year olds, to
think it's okay to punch police officers, it's it cannot
be tolerated down well well.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yet two things. One, this reminds me very much of
the Occupy Wall Street activities of twenty ten twenty eleven Omember,
which blew out of control, and I hope that there's
some follow through, some active action and follow through. It's
one thing to have a news conference. I commend the
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governor for what she said today, but let's see if
she follows through. It's as simple as that. I'll believe
it when I see it, Larry, and I want we
have to back the blue. It's as simple as that,
because if now we're going to live in anarchy, Larry.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I mean, if I could, if I could give one
plug down. There is a very nice lady, the mother
of statewhere Presentative Jessica Giannino, who listens to you every
single night for hours, and she was praising our conversation
the other night. I'm sure she's listening tonight. I just
want to say thank you to her and her daughter,
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the state rep who is a staunch supporter of law enforcement.
So the more the more state representatives and the more
public officials that will speak up and stand up for
law enforcement, it becomes contagious.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, no question, And thanks very much for
mentioning that lady. There's a I want to send her
a big shout out from nightside as well, missus Giannino.
Thanks so much Larry, we'll.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Talk so all right, thank you, Dan, have a good
nighte Okay, I'm going.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
To open up the phone lines here and you you
read I think what happened last night. Can you imagine
if you're coming into Boston, uh, you know, to go
to dinner or to go to a meeting, and you
come up out of the Park Street station or you
come up out of the Undercommon garage and you realize
that you're in the middle of a melee. H This
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is not good for Boston. It's not good for our
city's reputation, and it has to stop. And these these losers,
and they are losers in my opinion. They're all out
there today trying to prevent the TV camera crew, the
TV reporters, and the TV camera crews from doing their job.
They are, you know, entitled little rich kids. The guy
(12:28):
that punched the police officer who goes to toughts, well,
I hope tuffts take some action against him. Separated apart
from the courts. It doesn't give much of a of
a reputation, positive reputation to toughs when you've got twenty
year old kids of punching police officers. That's what I
read tonight and I heard on one of the newscasts
that this guy wrote her Atwood, who lives in Somerville
(12:49):
is a student at Toughs. Well, wouldn't be there Toughs
for long if if I were the Profo's that's for sure,
So he should be happy. I just do a talk show.
I'm going to open up these phone line. I want
to hear from as many of you as possible, because
this is the point in time where you either support
the police, UH, and you understand that they're put in
a position every day, every day, almost an impossible position
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that when they respond as they should have last night,
they are going to be people out there who are
going to say, well, this is horrible. These are just
young kids. No, they're not the young revolutionaries. It's as
simple as that. If they had the ability, UH, they would,
they would run the government, and they there would be
no room for any point of view other than theirs.
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They love to practice the First Amendment, but if they
ever came to power in this country, in this country,
the First Amendment would be no more. My name's Dan Ray,
this is Night's. The only line open right now is
UH six one seven nine three one ten thirty. I
am dealing with a tough throat and kind of I
(13:58):
don't know what it is. It's it's some sort of
a respiratory problem. You can help me out tonight by
joining the conversation so I can I can save my voice.
I want to hear your point of view. And by
the way, if you disagree with me, and if you
think that these kids who took on the cop the
police officers last night some sort of heroes of the revolution,
bring it on. Coming back on Nightside six nine thirty
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is the only line that is open right now.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm BZ Boston's
news Radio.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
All right, let's see what people have to say. This
this bothers me, It really does bother me. Let me
go to start this off this hour with Christian, who
is joining us to get the right mouse in my
hand and got too many papers and too many mice
on my desk. Christian in Peavity, Hi, Christian, welcome you
next time, your first this hour at Nightside. Christian are
(14:52):
right ahead. Hello. Well, let's put Christian on hold then
Rob if he's not ready, Okay, let's go to Frank.
Frank is in west Roxbury. Frank, This says west Roxbury.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
He is good evening, Dan, I hope you're feeling better.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
No, I'm not actually to be honest with Yeah, I
have no idea. I have no idea how I got this.
I'm hoping what it means is I won't get anything
for the rest of the winter. But thank you very
much for your kind words.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Okay, So I'm just wondering. I've heard a lot about
this on the news what happened last night, and I
haven't heard any comment from the commissioner.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Have you No, No, I didn't watch every newscast tonight,
but I think the commission it tends to not be
available or accessible. We have tried to get the Commissioner
to come on this show and just talk to people
in Boston or talk to people who come in and
out of Boston every day, but he seems to be
(15:56):
hesitant to do that. I've had several conversations with press
person who I knew very well. Uh, he would be
treated respectfully, but I just don't I see he's thinks.
I think he's someone who's not able to handle this.
He could he'll appear when there's a shooting and a
murder and he'll say that, you know, police are investigating
and that's about it. But no, uh, not not what
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I would consider to be an inspirational leader of the
men in his department.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I agree, and I think it would be good if
he would come on the show so people could call
and ask him questions.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, I mean we've had now this meet up. I
was very pleased with the governor today, who I've been
critical of. I thought that she did the right thing today.
Let's say if she follows through and uh and and really,
when this happens again, and it probably will, that they
really snap down on these folks that they've gotten noticed now,
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they they should be able to throw the book at them.
But this thing last night was even more well, I
don't know what's more, Dan, it was as dangerous as
the meetup, because here people were attacking police officers on
Saturday night Sunday morning, they were burning, they were torching
a police car.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
So I'm not too impressed with the commissioner, That's all
I can say. I'm sure those are very nice man,
but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, the few conversations I've had with him is very pleasant.
But again, leadership is a special special quality. Frank, thanks
very much. I got to take a CBS News special
report talking about the Middle East. Thanks my friend, thank
you for calling. Here's the CBS News special report.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
All right, let me go back to Christian. Christian, we
missed you before. Hopefully you're back now, go right ahead.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Is my phone working okay?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Uh, seems to be. I'm guessing you had us on mute.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
My phone is old. I'll get to the point before
it faves off.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
I think any one who is doing what they're doing
their integrity and the morals and valuers that are needed
them in the political and legal realm. Yes, I get
second chance, but the first thing is they need to
be hit hard. Let you know, you can't do this
go through the community service. But as far as in
the educational system, you have just cost yourself any process
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in learning legal law or political atmosphere because your mindset
can't have the stability needed to be in those realms.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I mean, I think the first thing you need to
do is take someone like that and suspend them for
at least a year. Let them go get their life together.
And maybe if they get their life together, they can
be brought back. In this group, Students for Justice in Palestine.
They are the same group that has caused the major
problems at colleges and universities around the country. They're not
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demonstrating for justice for Israel, for justice for Palestine. Uh And,
in effect, it's am us. This is the group that
likes to shout, you know, from the river to the sea,
and of course most people understand what that means is
there would be no Israel. Israel is literally from the
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river to the sea. But these are bad people. I mean,
they're very bad people, and they they have such disrespect
for our system of justice that they just I mean,
they'll they'll take on they will take on Boston police officers. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Yeah, that's why I'm saying they need to be you
know what, you have just cost yourself any opportunity to
be in the legal and profession of political because of
that unstable mindset. It needs to both Otherwise in olyfltry.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Someone should go back, uh and and just look up
national s JP dot org. They are this is clearly
you know, supporting over four hundred Palestine solidarity organizations across
occupied Turtle Island. By what they mean by occupied Turtle Island,
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that's so called North America. Okay, so they think Canada
and America, not as Canada and America, but they view
us as Turtle Island. And of course there's never been
in an area that is called Palestine per se. Okay,
Palestinians have lived in the Middle East for centuries, no question,
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but but there's no such place. I mean, you have Gaza,
but that's not Palestine per se. We aim to develop
a student movement, connected, disciplined, and equipped with the tools
necessary to pursue Palestinian liberation on our campuses. This is
a hardcore you know, communist organization simply.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Performers, Yeah, I mean they.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Give themselves away with their language and of course now
with their actions.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, it's just it can't be well. Thank you for
your time. To the callers, thank you, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Thank you, thank you very much. I appreciated Christian six
one seven, four ten thirty six one seven nine three
one ten thirty. There's there's another phrase a sentence here.
They have understanding the past shapes our movements, actions and
vision for the future. We want to hear how lessons
from history will guide us to liberation through the student
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into Fada and beyond. Submit your work to issue number
five through this link in our bio today. This is
heavily funded. I haven't done the research to tell you
who it's heavily funded by, but that these are these
are bad people. Now some of them are you know
(21:53):
what they used to call you know, you know, use
useful fools. I mean people who who think that this
is a wonderful thing and all of that. But this
is a very dangerous organization as we have found out
in the last two years. Larry in Dennisport, Larry next
night side down on the Cape.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Hey Larry, Dan that was a heavy show last night,
that's for sure, and thank you again tonight. Yeah, I've
told you before. This hits me personally. My father was
a prisoner in the German prison camp in World War Two,
being Jewish. Lucky you survived.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Number two.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
My daughter has lived in Israel. Joel of who you
interviewed in the past, has been Israel for a year
or two. And my son is a Boston police officer,
been on the force for twenty years.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Was he involved in the in this riot last night?
Speaker 6 (22:51):
No, he is a detective he's been a detective of
for the last few years, so thank god he's off
the streets. But you know they're killing him with the work.
But here's my question to you, and I'm not sure
if this was when you attack a police officer, especially
the ones that got punched in the face, I assume
that's assault and battery, of course.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely right, it's assaulted. It's also assaulted battery
or a police officer, which is worse, I mean.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
If yeah, right, right, So my question would be, would
it be ever possible to pass a law that whatever
the punishment is for assault and battery, it would be
maybe even double if you assault anybody and law enforcements
maybe teach these kids a lesson because they have no
respect for authority.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Well, of course, here's the problem. Okay, the law is
on the books. Laws are on the books, and there
is I'm sure laws that involve assault and battery. Or
when when Mark Sanchez, the former New York Jets quarterback
got into the fight with the guy in Indianapolis the
other night, I think that they're both charged with some
uh some some activity. It looks like Sanchez might be
(24:02):
facing more serious charges and he also I think got stabbed,
So I think he ended up on the wrong end
both of the law and of the altercation. But yeah,
you're going to have an enhanced penalty if you're talking
about something beyond assault and battery on you or me.
But assault and battery and a police officer, just like
(24:25):
if there's assault and battery and someone over a certain age,
on an elderly person, that there's protections you know that
you'd like to think exist. But as far as I'm concerned,
this kid who punched the police officer, assuming you know,
assuming it is proven, and I'm sure that they can
prove it, you know, hit him with everything, hit him
(24:47):
with the book. I mean, you know that's has to
make an example within the context of due process. But
make an example of him, hit him with a sentence,
put him in jail for a while. I mean, that's
that's a huge that's a huge step. You know, we're
not talking about some kid who was drinking a six
pack with his girlfriend behind the bleachers at the football stadium.
(25:10):
We're not talking about some kid who was driving in
a car and was smoking a joint in the back
seat of the car. We're talking with somebody who broke
the nose of a police officer in a brawl, in
a fight. Yeah, I agree that covering this well, I
do intend to cover it, and I also want to
give a shout out and actually a kudo to the governor.
(25:35):
I was surprised. I was happy to see her out
there today because look, there's bad stuff going on in
a lot of cities around the country. There's bad stuff
in Portland, bad stuff in Chicago. You've seen the stuff
we're done in Charlotte where the guy stabbed the woman
on the train from Ukraine. You've seen the story down
in New York where someone lit someone on fire and
(25:56):
literally burned and bruned them to death in a inside
the tunnels. The system down in New York. This is
this is a horrible situation we find ourselves. People feel
they have license to do whatever they want. And got
to send a message. Thank you, Larry, appreciate your call.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
All right, I've got a couple of folks who dropped off,
so I'd love to hear from you. If you support
the police, please feel free to add your voice. If
you don't have the courage to support the police, well
then you know next time I'm here in trouble. I
don't know what you're gonna do, but we need Those
police were assaulted last night by a large crowd. They
(26:39):
had to they had to stand their ground. They did fine.
They were thirteen people arrested, all losers. Thirteen losers and
four police officers were injured six seven, two, five, four ten,
thirty six seven nine. Be right back on Night's Side.
I'd love to have you joined the conversation.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
With Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Back to the phones we go, got to go to
Jeff in Abington. Jeff, welcome your next Night Side.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
This is just a start. It's gonna get a lot
worse with you. Woo and the governor have no control
over them. In fact, these are the people who vote
for Democrats, so they really don't want them to go away. Uh,
they'll give you a lip service. But the rank and
fire police don't like Woo, but they endorsed her.
Speaker 8 (27:36):
And.
Speaker 7 (27:39):
She's not going to back them. If one off, If
one of those officers shot one of those kids and
killed them, what do you think would happen to that
police officer?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
He'd be on trial. I mean, that's the that's the lesson.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
So you reput your soul. These kids know nothing's going
to happen.
Speaker 8 (27:56):
Two of them.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah, well they got arrested. I mean, they got arrested.
But now let's see what the judicial system does. Let's
see what the.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
DA because all the trouble at haven't and not much. No,
they didn't. So they you know, just like a child.
If child knows if you can get away with it,
he's gonna keep going that.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
You're absolutely right on your point. I think we're in
for some tough times here when you think about it.
Donald Trump has had a pretty successful first of six
or seven months of his presidency, and yet uh, there's
no one. There's so many people on the other side
(28:39):
who aren't even willing. I mean, tonight, it appears that
there might be a very significant breakthrough on the situation
in the Middle East. I didn't I.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
Didn't make extreme media. H Trump. You don't like.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Trump, Well, let me tell you what I feel about Trump. Okay,
there there are issues that he takes, positions he takes.
I think the wall had to be closed. I'm glad
he closed the wall. But then I think he does
things and he's sometimes his own worst enemy. So I'm
(29:14):
I'm like an umpire. To be really honest with you,
I'm going to call it.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
Didn't you make a statement He'll never be president of
the United States at one time?
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I did, I thought I and I admit to that. Okay,
I absolutely admit to that.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Jeff, would you find it?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Find it?
Speaker 7 (29:30):
It's been poisoning our youth? So the last ten years ago,
I haven't no do me a favor.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I haven't been poisoning anyone about Trump. If you've listened
to my show, and I hope you have, you know
I was extremely critical of Joe Biden. I was extremely You.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
Was surprised he was surprised at the debate how far
go on Biden was, And I wasn't surprised at all
because I follow things, I know people, I hear things.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, well, you might be smarter, you know, Jeff, you
might be a lot water than I am. I can
tell you.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
I gather information. You're You're more interested all your milk cottons.
I'm doing what milk rinsing all your milk cottons for recycling?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
What do you what do you do? You leave your
milk cottons dirty and leave them in your house? I mean,
come on, well, good for you, good for you. You're
a you're a you're a you're a person who obviously
has some positions and congratulations, congratulations. I would if I
were you, I would keep everything down, cellar and uh,
don't even take it. You know, it's a you're a
(30:39):
little off bas Joe at this point. But that's fine,
that's fine, that's fine. Okay, you you have no you
have no clue. Uh what. I don't know how much
you listen to my show, but if you listen to
my show, you would understand that I'm somebody who's not
going to be in anyone's pocket. I'm not going to
be a cheerleader for anyone.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
If Donald Trump can pull this off in the Middle East,
I will give him all the credit in the world.
It's as simple as that.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
You're a Democrat, you vote Democrat.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
You know something, you're making assumptions. First of all, I'm
not a Democrat. Yeah, absolutely, as most people are in Massachusetts.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
You won't even answer this question. But one last time
you voted for a Republican.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
You want to answer the question for president? Is that? Oh? Yeah,
I've voted for plenty of Republicans over the years. I've
voted for plenty of Democrats, simple as that, you know.
I mean, I voted for John McCain. In two thousand
and eight, I voted for Mitt Romney.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
Uh, did you tell me who you voted for the
last president?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I chose not to be really honest with you, Yeah,
what are you so afraid of? Well, I think that
Trump's temperament is his achilles heel, is what I'm trying
to say.
Speaker 7 (31:56):
What are you so afraid of to reveal who you've
voted for? What's going to happen?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Because I told you I did not vote for either
one of them. I chose not to vote, and and
I'm sorry that disappoints you, but you know that's the truth.
It's as simple as that. You have a right to
go to the polls and not vote. There's a lot
of I don't vote for anyone on the ballot when
they're running unopposed.
Speaker 7 (32:20):
So you think would be better off if Kamala Harris
was the president right now?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
No?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
No, I do not, No, I do not. I think
that she was a disaster, and I think that that
her time in the Democratic Party is long since over. Look, Jeff,
I've given you a lot of time here. You're welcome
to call me a lot.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Of time, because I'm probably your best call up you
ever have.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
You know, it may not be my best, but I
think you're the most modest. Jeff, I would say, thanks
very much. I have a great guy, Phil. Phil is
a great caller. Phil, welcome you.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
And that's on that side.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
You were reading my mind when I'm sorry, but no,
I don't know. There's so much stuff going on. Was
the it's so so many he's going on? Wasn't there
a Boston police cole was at New York when they
was on fire that in Boston.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Recently on Sunday morning down at the intersection of Tremont
in Mass Avenue.
Speaker 8 (33:21):
Yes, this dad, And I'm not any I don't run
an official guy. But the point is, why don't they
police When the police came in, they have report on Dorty. Okay,
so we have a problem with this way, a problem
of this way. When you told me that I know
the police, some police officer, I hear she got a
(33:43):
note boken. No, I'm thinking, okay, things should have No
why don't they give these like you have a spare
tire or you have a Jackham, you got something in
the car Why don't you put something in the trunk,
a life preserver? Why don't he put a helmet? Face?
You guy? Hit him.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I don't know the circum Look, I don't know the circumstances.
It could have It could have been, you know, look,
just think about it, Phil, it could have been the
police officers might have had on helmets and face shields,
but helmets and face shields and pantemonium can't get knocked off.
Speaker 8 (34:21):
A lot of mine got.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
A broken nose. Hey, Phil, thank you very much. You're
my best caller of the night.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Is offer.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Thanks talk you soon. Okay, you have a great night.
Good night. All right, we're going to continue this conversation.
I have two hours left and uh uh, I'm kind
of uh. I'm more than happy to talk to you
about anything. But I feel very strongly that if these
riots and the the the automobile meet up was a
(34:50):
riot and last night was a ride, if they aren't stopped,
and you've got to give mar Healey a little bit
of credit today for getting out. And I'm sure that
they were play in her side of the aisle, who
weren't happy that she was that we'll play some of
her sound for you coming back here on nightside. It's
coming up on the ten o'clock news six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
(35:12):
I can only invite you to join us coming back
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