December 17, 2025 • 40 mins
Following the President’s live address to the nation, Dan gave his analysis of the speech and invited listeners to share their thoughts on it as well.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's nice with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I want to get back to talking about the specifics
in President Trump's speech tonight. But we ended last hour
with William from Kingston, and I promised that would bring
him back because he didn't have a lot of time. William,
you wanted to, I think, talk about Biden's full term
in office. Correct, Well I.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Did, but I didn't. I just want to say one
more thing Dan that I've listened. You know, I had
to be on hold for a while, and I have
to give you a lot of credit for your patients
with your callers. You're you know, a lot of people
call up and they're not really the fact straight and
it's just impressive how you handle them and how patient
you are with them.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, I appreciate that. So so during the break, I
went to a website. It's called FactCheck dot org. Uh,
you might want to look at it yourself. It's called
it's a adjective, the Edinburgh Public Policy Center. It's considered
to be a very reliable fact as his name suggests,
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fact checked out or get a place that reduces numbers.
So they did a summary of Joe Biden's final numbers
then there's a little bit here that I'll give to
you and we can go back and forth a little bit.
They write the final numbers for Joe Biden's full term,
and nearly all in here's a rundown of various statistical
measures during his presidency. I won't go down through all
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of them, but we've got to remember. I think it's
so important to remember that that COVID arrived in this
country in January, late January of twenty twenty, so it
dominated the first year that the last year of Trump's
first first time in office. It also was dominant for
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at least a year and a half the first part
of Joe Biden's term, so it arguably skewed all these
numbers a little bit. But both terms, it wasn't like
COVID came, you know, after Trump left. It was here
for a year, and it spanned the two administrations, the
last year of Trump's administration in the first year and
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a half, and then it sort of its impact dwindled.
So this is what FactCheck dot Org rights. Under Joe Biden,
inflation roared back, shrinking the value of workers' paychecks. Consumer
prices rose twenty one and a half percent, gasoline rose
thirty one percent, and adjusting for inflation, private sector average
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weekly earning shrank four percent. In that one paragraph, it
shows why Donald Trump was reelected.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
In twenty twenty four exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Okay, the economy did regain millions of jobs lost during
the coronavirus or the COVID pandemic, and around six million
more were created. A lot of those jobs were in
the public sector. Unemployment average four point one percent, well
below the historical average, which is pretty much where it
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is right now with Trump. Now, let's see what his
economic reforms, what impact they have as we move into
twenty twenty six and beyond, and that will decide whether
or not the Republicans are unceremoniously turned out of office
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in mass in Moss next November, and Donald Trump then
becomes a Lane Duk president. The final book may be
in on Biden, but it is still developing or the
final pictures still developing under Trump. So there were things
that were good. The stock market rose under Biden, as
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it has risen under Trump after tax Corporate profits continue
to trends under Biden, and there's there's a lot of that.
But the US trade deficit in goods and services grew
under Biden by nearly forty percent. Home prices rose thirty
seven point four percent. So it's it's it's a very
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mixed bag.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yes, yes, And.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
If you get a chance to look at fact check
dot org, I can't even begin to go through all.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Dan. I don't disagree with anything you're saying. I am
not a big Biden guy. Maybe you maybe thought that
I would be.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
No, I didn't, but I just wanted to get some
of the numbers here on the record.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So in twenty twenty two, inflation went up ten percent,
and that was the result of some of the bills
that he passed to try to help people out with. Yes,
you know of the lots of income as a result
of the pandemic, and certainly that and that went up,
and you can go back and forth about that, and
I think that's why he lost the election. I think
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people vote from their pocketbooks.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
And that inflation that in Josan's twenty was pretty much
his death. Now. So now we go to Trump and
here's Trump and he's saying I'm going to bring prices down,
and I think we'd all agree that they're pretty much
where they were, you know, something's down.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Something well, somethings are. Some things are dramatically up. Coke,
chocolate products, candy, and and things like that. Believe me,
I buy that stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
And I don't know, but Tim, let's let's not get
into into that. But that's that's But what I would
say is that I do remember in the last year
of Biden's presidency, pretty much every year, every I'm sorry,
every month, he would have about one hundred and eighty
thousand dollars of jobs created. And that went on for
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probably a good year, if not more, and also in
place finally did flat out. So now we have Trump
and we've either lost jobs or maybe gained a few
because of his his policies with tariffs. I think we
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have to agree that things are not what they were.
Not that Biden was a great president, but now we're
down to the point where we're creating very huge jobs
and we might be rolling into recession. Who knows. I'm
not saying we're going to, but it's not what is.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Come on, you know, we're trying to keep you here, William, I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Sorry, I'm sorry, But for her to say that we're
the hottest country in the world, that's how that let.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Me just say this, that is political hyperbole. Okay. However, however,
I think what he is trying to say is that
we are bringing back his tariffs are forcing companies to
consider about bringing back factories in manufacturing jobs to America.
I think that's what he's saying.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
That he is saying that dam But hold on, let's
think for a second. Do you think suddenly these companies
that have been getting great deals from Korea and China
are suddenly going to re invest everything in America and
suddenly we're suddenly going to have this amazing you know,
America reoccurrence, if it even happens.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Well, I can tell you that one of the things
that he mentioned tonight, which is accurate, Which is accurate,
companies have pledged to bring back about eighteen trillion dollars
in manufacturing that might have been planned for overseas. And
if that happens, he will be a transformational president. We
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have lost jobs through Republicans and Democratic administrations for decades.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
But Dan, you're talking hyper purply, and that's hyperpole. Yes,
I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
High it's hype probably to say with the no, it's
hyperbole to say with the hottest Uh, you know economy,
that's hyper. I'm with you on that. But when companies
come and say we're bringing factories back, We're bringing manufacturing
jobs back that were overseas. Again, that is part of
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the tariffs. The tariffs is is the whip or the
or is the is the stick and and the and
then the fact that you can manufacture uh and bring
back jobs to America. That will help the economy. Look, uh,
it will.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
But last last thing I would say is it will.
But it will happen. It's not going to happen in
six months or a year. It's gonna happen in four
or five years. If it happened.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Nothing happens overnight. But I do believe, I do believe
that we have the potential of turning our economy around.
We have to bring home the manufacture of computer chips.
We found out that in the in the early twenty
twenties when we had supply change chain interruptions and we
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couldn't get medicines here. We've allowed very critical products to
be produced overseas by Democrats and Republicans alike. Trump is intent.
Whether he will be successful, we will tell in time.
If he is successful, he will be a transactional president.
If he's a failure, Well.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Do we not live in a world economy where some
things are made better in other areas than we are?
Can we?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I don't think there's anything. I don't think there's anything
that there's stuff that's made cheaper in other parts of
the world. But the reason but I don't think anything
that's made better anywhere in the world. Can you tell
me one thing that has made better overseas in terms
of quality than here in America.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Obviously there are things that China has. They have certain
elements that we can't get here that we have to
deal with.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Well, though, you're talking to real earth minerals from I
get it. Yeah, Okay, right, William. I think I also
think William, in honesty, you're a little over your head here.
I think you need to look at it and realize
that all the results are not in he is. Just
just trust me on this one. Let's see where the
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economy is. The test of Trump is not where the
economy is today. It is not what his ratings are today.
His ratings today are bad, particularly on the economy, There's
no question about that. Okay, But let's see where they
are six months from now where they are.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Not what they're gonna be worse.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Well, that's your opinion. That's an opinion. You'll welcome your opinion.
But I'm not gonna accept that as a fact. Okay,
he's betting his he's betting his president, this smart guy.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Are the tariffs going to bring prices down? I don't
think so.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
The tariffs are not intended to bring prices down. However,
the tariffs have not caused the damage that many predicted
last April. William, calm back more often and we will
drop them.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Listen, you are a great guy, and you are the
mother Teresa of talk radio.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Not a problem. Thank you, Thank you, William. We'll take
a break. We're coming back. We got one line six,
one seirty. I want your reaction to Trump's speech tonight.
That's what I'm looking for. That's what we can analyze tonight.
I'm not gonna discuss or debate with the economy might
be two years. I have a view of it. I
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think he had he betting everything that he might be
a transactional president. If you don't understand what I mean,
I'll be happy to explain it. But back on nights
that after this.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
It's night side with Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Where are we going next? I'm going to try to
get everybody in here, Bernie in New Hampshire, Bernie got
to help me out here, Go right ahead, Bertie, Hey,
how were doing this? I'm hoping I can get everybody
to be a little tight of here so we can
get more points of view about his speech.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, I just want to talk about my reactions. And
you know, I'm not I'm a Trump's supportive, but I'm
also a Trump believer. I just believe that it was
it was laser focus tonight. He didn't go off on
a tangent, which made me very happy because he has
attendency to do that. He was highlighting.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
What he we elected him for. This is what people
voted for.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Him, voting from him. They got it, and it was
highlighting at good points. And I don't know all the facts.
I'm driving. Eventually the facts will come out on his numbers.
And I just believe that he's he's trying to just
show you that he's only what's good for his country,
what he believes is good for his country. Let me
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put it that way. I just believe he was very
focused tonight for some reason.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Well, He needs to be focused because when he goes
off script, it's a disaster. He thinks of himself as
more of a an entertainer and a comedian, which is
which is where he came out of. He's obviously somebody
who is a builder, no question about that. But he ran,
he did a TV show, and he has to realize
he's now president of the United States. So yeah, I
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can only tell you that, you know that it's like
anything else, everybody brings their bias to this. I'm trying
to not bang a bias. I'm trying to just read
what people say. Uh is that you know? There is
one reporter here from The Times who writes in some
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ways Trump finds himself in a situation similar to what
President Biden faced on the economy. Throughout the previous administration,
Biden and his advisors frequently argue the economy was in
better shape than the public believed, using charts and figures.
Trump is attempting to make a similar case tonight. We
won't know he's if he makes that case for at
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least a year. Also, this is David Saying, or White
House reporter for The Times. The Warrior dividend of seventeen
seventy six supposed to come from tariff revenues, the president said,
but those revenues are not for the president to spend.
That's the purview of Congress. He also has talked about
giving two thousand all citizens except the wealthy, and claims
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that over time income taxes will dwindle the promises uppace
the revenue. That's a White House reporter who doesn't like
Donald Trump. I can say this. You have a son
of the military. I'm glad that your son and every
other member of the military will receive a warrior dividend
of seventeen hundred and seventy six dollars. They should get more,
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in my opinion, and we have. He has brought back
in terms of tariffs, some two hundred and fifty billion
dollars in tariffs. That's a lot of money, and let's
give it to people who deserve it, and the military
should be at the head.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Of the line.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yes, I agree with one hundred percent, and they certainly
do deserve it. They sacrifice a lot, not full lot
of money. But I agree with you. I think he's
gonna be a transformational president, but that remains to be seen.
You got East tariffs and that's gonna work. And that's
what that's what people don't have the patience money want
results today. Let's see what happens to give it night.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I'm with you on that, Bernie, thank you so much.
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
All you have a good night.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Listen. Let me go next to Ken and Walta and Ken.
I normally give you a lot more time, but tonight
I'm struggle year to try to get everybody to be
as six sink as possible.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Go ahead, Ken, I will be as fast as I can. Yeah,
you know, I think just a couple of points on falsehoods.
I mean, he said he's reducing some drug prices four
hundred six percent. I don't know how you can reduce
the cost of anything more than one hundred percent. Absolutely,
we talked about he talked about gas prices and with
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some states being at a dollar ninety nine a gallon,
he never mentions where they are. I mean, it's just
not true.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
No, there are there are gas stations in America in
different parts of the country, and I'm sure it's Louisiana, Oklahoma,
Texas where you can find the station at a dollar
ninety nine. The average price of gasoline in America across
the country is now below three dollars.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
So according to the Department of Energy, when Trump came
into office, it was three dollars eight nationwide, now three
dollars five.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
So I will, I want to know when did you
pull those figures?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Uh like ten minutes ago?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Well, I know what I paid, I know what I
pay for gas prices, and I know what I was
paying under Biden, and the disparity is a lot more
than five cents.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
So I how much?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Let me ask you this, ken, Ken, you live in Waltham,
What do you pay when you go to What do
you pay for you? Do you use regular gas or
a high test?
Speaker 5 (17:30):
What?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I don't call it.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I usually get it for about a regular gas about
two ninety maybe two eighty five.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Okay, fine, okay, I can get it for two eighty
three at Patriot Petroleum, and I can, and there are
other people have told me less. What were you paying
on average during the Biden administration on gasoline at the.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
End, at the end, I was paying under three dollars
a gallon? Okay, but sure, of course, I mean it
went up well over four, right, I mean I think
it was close five around here.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yes it was, Yes it was.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
But it hasn't it so, but it hasn't gone down
much since January. That's the thing. I mean, maybe maybe
it has. You know, you've found the right gas station
for you, but it's just not true nationwide and on
the West Coast gas place you can go.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Well again, I don't I don't have in front of
me if you're telling me the Department of Energy is
saying that the average price nationwide, you said was three
oh eight under Biden at the end, it was.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Three oh eight in January twenty twenty five, it's three
oh five. Now I'll send you me now yellow.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
What else do you want to say? Because I only
to me that does not square with my own experience.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
To be really honest, it's a big country, but the
only other, the only other thing because of the stuff
like this. And you know, he said energy prices under
Biden costs the typical American household five to ten thousand
dollars a year. You know, I don't think most people
pay five to ten thousand dollars a year in energy
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prices aside, But independent of all of that, it just
sounded familiar to me when he was dealing with COVID,
and I thought he wasn't doing the right things. And
I think, you know, every governor who ran for re
election in twenty twenty who was an incumbenty want you know,
Biden or Trump is the only executive who lost in
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the United States in twenty twenty. And I think the
people who are in the middle and a lot of
people on the right, you know, either the people in
the middle switched and voted for Biden in twenty twenty,
and I think a lot of people in the right
stayed home. So I think I think Trump has to
do better. And this relates to the Rob Reiner saying
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a little bit because I heard one commentator say, how
how could the White House let him, you know, send
that post out? And another analyst said, well, you know,
with this administration, there's nobody who says no to him now,
and that's by design. And I think Trump's in danger
of things going poorly and everybody's in total agreement with
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what he says, and he needs more pushback. Now.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
First of all, he gets pushed back from Susie Wilde.
Read the article that you just she just sat for.
Under Biden, we came to understand that he was not
in charge, that there were people around him who were
in charge. I mean, you know, I mean, if I
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just think ken that that he is taking trying to
take the country in a different direction, it's what called
it's what's called being a transformational president. He is basically
saying he's cut more public jobs, you know, not only
in terms of a wash but in other states around
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the country. And he's very proud of He's very proud
of that, and there's a lot of people who are
going to be upset about that. I get that, I
truly do get that. But the fact of the matter
is that that he has set us on a course
that is either going to be successful and he will
be uh he will be considered a transactional president, or
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he'll be a failure and he'll be in the dustbin
of history along with Herbert Hoover and other Republican failures.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I hope he changes.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I'm seeing the same kind of behavior as four or
five years ago during COVID, and I you know, you
might be right. Yeah again, it's my opinion, right, he said, So,
I just don't see a lot of effects.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Love reading from fact factcheckcheck dot org. Okay. The week
before Joe Biden took office, the national average price of
regular gasoline the pump was two point two dollars thirty
eight cents a gallon. That was still rising from the
one point seven eight one dollars seventy eight cents low
point during the pandemic recession, which lasted from February to
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April of twenty twenty. That was when we were getting
hit with COVID. Okay. From there it shot up to
the highest ever requorded just over five dollars a gallon,
ending in June of twenty twenty two, and the world
oil markets were disrupted by Russia's invasion of Ukraine. The
week he left office, the price was down to three eleven,
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still thirty one percent higher than when he came into office.
So anyway, those are the numbers. Ken, I gotta go.
I'll give you more time next time. We've given you
six minutes. I'm everybody wants ten minutes tonight. I can't do.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
It, so you'll dan. Thanks so much, Thanks Ken.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
All points of view welcome. If you want to get
in now, now's the time to call six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six, one, seven, nine, three, ten thirty.
Coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
All right, let's keep rolling here. I want your reaction
to the speech and try to put whatever bias you
might have towards Trump. But let's just try to get
your reaction to the speech. I thought he gave probably
the most effective speech of his presidency. Uh. Let's see
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where the numbers are in terms of polls a couple
of weeks from now. Let's see where we are in
terms of the economy a few months from now. Bill
is an easton Billia next on Nightside, Go right ahead, Dan.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
It was a short speech. He Hey, this guy's get
an ego, but he's full of vim and vega. Thirty
minute speech is almost out of breath. He digressed a
little bit. How are you gonna throw the shoes? He's
gonna give a third term.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
He's not gonna get a third term. He's not eligible
for a third term.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Anything's possible.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Uh no, no, anything is You know you're right. Anything
is possible. You're right about that. You and I could
be hit by a truck tomorrow. The world could end tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Okay, but realistic in both counts.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
What's that highly unlikely on the book?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Those two counts, right, and and there's there's no way.
I'll tell you right now, market on your calendar and
call me back when I'm wrong. It's eleven forty. It's
eleven forty. Okay, eleven forty on December seventh, twenty twenty five.
There is no way possible, politically or legally for Donald
Trump to begin a third term in office. And he
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has in effect said so himself. He is living in
people's heads by by playing you know, well, I could
do even better. No, he will be eighty three years old,
and he will be.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
I totally get it, okay, all day. So he did
a heck of a job. And it is a lot
of hyperbole. By the way, I don't work for this
gas station, but I pay two to forty eight a
gallon full serve cash and Holbrook.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I've heard of those stations, but.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
That salves and it's right on thirty. Yeah, it's the
one across the streets are penny more.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Okay, No, that's fine, that's fine. And uh, and let's sitit.
You know, I've been reading from you know what's what's
called fact org dot com, which is a very fact
check excuse me, dot org FactCheck dot org a project
at the Edinburgh Public Policy Center. Not hardly what you
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would call a right wing a group. Let's put it
like that. I think they call it down the middle.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
I was gonna say earlier, you call it, you asking,
you call it what is made outside this country that
we can't make better the same or better? Hey, I
was gonna inject a little human say maybe coffee and bananas,
But I think we have territories we can grow them in.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
But yeah, we can grow bananas.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
And I believe what about the Japanese with their cars.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I I think that that if America puts their mind
to it, we can make cars competitive with Japan. I'm
a guy that has bought like five Vovals. I'll never
buy another Vovo again. I think that Vovo is now
gone as a great car company. And I remember when
when American cars were horrible, were horrible, But I think
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American cars are better. They're on the ascent and and
certain certain cars foreign cars are heading downward in my mind, and.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Uh, you're going to pay a pretty penny for it.
The cheapest one is the Chevy Tracks, small suv vow twenties,
but you can't all the all the all the economy
models have been ceased to be being produced. Well, if
I think it's deliberate.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Well let me say this. If we can manufacture cars
here in this country that are competitive with the best
foreign cars, I'll be willing to buy an American car
because it's going to keep American jobs at home and
it's going to make our economy stronger. That's what I
believe in.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Okay, what do you think about people paying an extra
forty dollars for this new blue license plate one hundred
bucks instead the sixty guess one registration.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
If you want to, you know, have be able to
tell your grandchildren that you bought that license plate. That's
the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. That's great. It's like
the people that buy license plates to support the Bruins
and Celtics.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Yeah, that's true. And you can pay more on your
income tax. You can check a box.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Most people don't want to do that, but there's a value.
There's a value. We live in a free society and
there's a value. So that's all. You know, They at
some point probably they're not going to do this, but
they could get to the point where they could say, Hey,
if you want to have your license plate, I love
the Second Amendment. I'm sure there's a lot of people
who would pay a little extra to have a license
plate that says I love the Second Amendment. Whatever.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
Yeah, you're right. I mean so I messay you're grind
your gear segment. I love that you have that, Babe.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
We'll shoot for grind you gears this Friday night. Okay, thanks, Bill,
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Okay, Dan, thanks.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Man, talk to you soon. I'm going to try to
move quickly here. Let me go to Matt and Burlington. Matt,
you're next one nights. I go right ahead.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Hey Dan, Hawaii tonight.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Matt. You've got to be quick for me. I got
you in here before the break, and you've waited long enough.
I didn't want to have to have to wait through
a commercial.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Go right ahead, of course, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
So.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
I was just thinking about a couple of lines of
sadism about what he said tonight during this eighteen minute speech.
A couple of lines he said they were wedding men
playing on the sports transgender for everybody. Another line about
immigration issue Biden. He slipped, he said, we've never been
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invaded before, and then he trailed off and said it
was so so bad. I'm Nico opportunity Dan. I criticized
Biden every single time he had a gaff. I'm never
the sad thing than a Trump. He's slipping and more
and more, it's becoming obvious. And he was he was
focused tonight. The speech was focused, was organized, yep, But
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he trailed and he's and there are moments where I'm thinking, Okay, first.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Of all, I missed that. And obviously we were invaded
through immigration, okay, meaning they were yes, okay, But I
think what he might have been alluding to is nine
to eleven, which happened on George Bush's watch. I'd have
to go back and listen to it. I was taking
notes feverishly. I did not hear what you heard. I
(29:52):
don't dispute that what you heard was accurate, okay, But
I don't think this guy is slipping. Intellectually.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
He holds nothing, not intellectually, but I'm thinking just he's
talking off the coff but he's trying to keep on
those monitor But.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
He had a script in front of him tonight. I
guarantee you there was a script in front of him tonight,
and he had visual age teleprompters. You know, if there'd
been a wide shot, if you notice the whole shot
started stay tight on him for the entire time. If
they went to a wide shot, you would have seen
the teleprompters both to his left and to his right.
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I'm telling you that was not a no one could
have done that eighteen minutes and hit those number of
items that he did. That was not him speaking off
the cuff to a.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Crowd right the end. One quick thing on policy, real
quick on we walk quick. I'm just I'm curious of
what's going to happen this next calendar year going into
twenty six. I'm curious. He mentioned he's going to be
releasing some policy papers about the housing issues and the
cost of housing. I think he said in January. Curiously,
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what comes of that? Like to see in address the
costs of steel, costs of lumber, the costs actually build houses.
I want to see this administration get really concrete about this.
And I want to know what he's saying. That the
cost of prescription drug is going to go down, I want,
I want how are they going to try and get
at these these these healthcare opinions that are being deducted. Adam, Adam.
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I checked there every check. You know, everything is going
up from price. And I just don't think that that
piece of the messaging is being conveyed.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
You know, well, I hear, I hear what you're saying.
It's one thing to say you're going to do something.
It's another thing to do it. So what you're saying is,
in effect, show me the money. It's what you're saying, okay,
And what you mean by that is show me the savings.
He laid it out tonight. Let's see what can happen.
(31:52):
The fact of the matter is gas prices are down.
That is good for all of us, Okay, and that
part of that is because of Drill, Baby, drill, which
he talked about for years. Let's hope that I want
him to succeed, just like I wanted Joe Biden to succeed,
because I want more money in my pocket. I want
money in your pocket. It did not work well for
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Joe Biden. It was the disastrous four years in many respects.
I'm not sure who was running the White House. I
know who's running the White House. Right now. And the
idea is that he's articulating to me sound promising, but
they only sound promising. Let's see if those promises are fulfilled.
We will know within a year.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Thanks, Thanks, got to run, Matt, Thank you much. All right,
we're going to try to get everybody else in. Eddie
and Boston, Kevin and Hanson, Mike and Beverly. The three
of you have not waited nearly as long as the others.
You're going to have to be quick. I'll get you
all in. I'm gonna try back on night side after this.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
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Speaker 2 (33:00):
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He'll be here tomorrow night, nine o'clock. Let's go next
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for me because I got two guys behind you, and
they're gonna they're gonna be upset if I can't get
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them in as well.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
Go right ahead, Kevin, Okay, Dann, can you.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Hear me perfectly?
Speaker 8 (33:51):
Go ahead, Okay, good one.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
I just wanted to point out people have a lot
of lack of trust in the American worker. Uh, America
rose up when we were attacked by Japan and switched
industries and overcame all the problems of World War Two.
You know, people don't they don't appreciate history, and they
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just go off what they hear on you know, major media.
I do appreciate you beating back on some of the
comments that were done tonight. You gotta let a president
do his job, and uh, he's gonna do a good job.
He's gotta let him do it.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I mean, I think again, no one can do No
one can turn the economy around. No one can turn
the economy around overnight. He's had eleven months. What he has,
the path that he's on, he has to continue down.
Let us see what happens. The only people who I
think have lost immensely during his time in office are
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those people who were here illegally and who have either
self deported or been deported.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
Now at the say, people got to remember our tax
dollars are here to benefit American citizens, you know, and
they and there's no beating that back. You know, the
people that work in work eighty hours a week just
to keep their own stuff going and pay taxes do
not appreciate. Uh, you know, their tax dollar is going
where they don't belong, right, And.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
That's that is in large part why he won. And
let us see if his philosophy very different from from
Joe Biden and very different for the Republican Party. As
I say, he has the potential to become a transformational president.
We'll see.
Speaker 8 (35:33):
Oh, I thank you for that correction, Dan.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
And I don't know if you remember that right when
he first came into office the first time around, he
pushed a company called Carrier around a little bit and
made them, you know, continue to manufacture in the United States.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Or I can remember that, Kevin. I got two other
guys behind me, behind you, who have waited just as long.
I got to be fair. Thank you, my friend. Talk again,
Paul more often. I'll give you more time. Eddie and Boston.
Eddie got to be I got Mike and Beverley behind you.
Go ahead, go ahead, Eddie.
Speaker 8 (36:04):
Yes, then you did really well trying to keep this
conversation going. One thing I think that's a little disappointing
with the speech is that Trump was a little chaotic
after announcing that you're gonna do it evening nighttime speech.
(36:24):
It's got to be a very smooth, direct and to
the point, and just like always, he's always all over
the place. But we do have to give him the
benefit of the doubt because when we consider where we
were and where we are now, we definitely better off.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Well, I think that's a pretty good analysis. I mean,
it was like it was like we were trying to
drink from the fire hose. But I think his intention
was to try to reach as many different constituencies and saying, hey,
this is what I've done, this is why it's better,
this is why it will be better. There were mistakes,
certainly there were. There was hyperbole, always hyperbole, but there
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were more facts and figures and and and facts that
could be checked than hyperbole. And for that I give
him credit.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
Well, you should have written this speech for him. You
did a good job. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Thanks. Eddie talked soon, called more often, Mike and Beverly. Mike,
we only got about a minute left, go right ahead, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
I did, couldn't Why Dan, Yeah, I thought this speecure
was great. I listen to something ycler Is like. I
find him maze. But I think Trump did a great
job putting the graphs up, the showing people visually. I
thought was a better job in the grass people, so
people getting see what's going on when he's talking about.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
My God, Mike, I gotta tell you, I missed that.
I listened to it on radio because I know that's
what my audience, So therefore I was not the beneficiary
of any graphs or whatever. But uh, that will all
come out in the polls tomorrow where people pleased his
poll numbers are down. I suspect they only will go
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up as a result of this speech.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
I don't think you're pulled up and down because people
and don't And.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
I get it, Mike, whether you want to believe it, Mike,
whether you want to believe it or not, all polls
at this point are down. And I think that's one
of the reasons why he gave this speech tonight, and
one of the reasons why it was scripted and Uh,
he was forced to stay on topic. Now, maybe he
hit too many topics. It wasn't a Ronald Reagan's speech,
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which would have had some some stories and some anecdotes
and been much more folksy and and and a calmer presentation.
But it was Donald Trump tonight. It was Donald Trump.
I thought at his best that he could He could
not do a Ronald Reagan's speech. It was a Donald
Trump's speech. People can make it. I believe it will
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help him in the polls. We'll see.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Yes, I think you did a great job as a guest. Thing.
Go you first. California is still get a fight all
of the gallop right now. So that's why the you
know some some the gas average you were talking about
earlier with the caller earlier is like, you know, three
something whatever it is. But if you take the Democrat
state like California, New York out of it, it's way
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below it.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
All right, fair enough, Mike, you got the last word
in right night.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I will do a nightside postgame because I want to
comment a little bit on what we talked about tonight.
I want to thank all the listeners. I want to
thank all the callers, those of you who not normally
call tonight, thank you very much. Those of you who
chose not to call tonight, you can call tomorrow night,
Tomorrow night. William Martin, extraordinary author, writes historical novels about
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(40:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
I want to get back to talking about the specifics
in President Trump's speech tonight. But we ended last hour
with William from Kingston, and I promised that would bring
him back because he didn't have a lot of time. William,
you wanted to, I think, talk about Biden's full term
in office. Correct, Well I.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Did, but I didn't. I just want to say one
more thing Dan that I've listened. You know, I had
to be on hold for a while, and I have
to give you a lot of credit for your patients
with your callers. You're you know, a lot of people
call up and they're not really the fact straight and
it's just impressive how you handle them and how patient
you are with them.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, I appreciate that. So so during the break, I
went to a website. It's called FactCheck dot org. Uh,
you might want to look at it yourself. It's called
it's a adjective, the Edinburgh Public Policy Center. It's considered
to be a very reliable fact as his name suggests,
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fact checked out or get a place that reduces numbers.
So they did a summary of Joe Biden's final numbers
then there's a little bit here that I'll give to
you and we can go back and forth a little bit.
They write the final numbers for Joe Biden's full term,
and nearly all in here's a rundown of various statistical
measures during his presidency. I won't go down through all
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of them, but we've got to remember. I think it's
so important to remember that that COVID arrived in this
country in January, late January of twenty twenty, so it
dominated the first year that the last year of Trump's
first first time in office. It also was dominant for
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at least a year and a half the first part
of Joe Biden's term, so it arguably skewed all these
numbers a little bit. But both terms, it wasn't like
COVID came, you know, after Trump left. It was here
for a year, and it spanned the two administrations, the
last year of Trump's administration in the first year and
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a half, and then it sort of its impact dwindled.
So this is what FactCheck dot Org rights. Under Joe Biden,
inflation roared back, shrinking the value of workers' paychecks. Consumer
prices rose twenty one and a half percent, gasoline rose
thirty one percent, and adjusting for inflation, private sector average
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weekly earning shrank four percent. In that one paragraph, it
shows why Donald Trump was reelected.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
In twenty twenty four exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Okay, the economy did regain millions of jobs lost during
the coronavirus or the COVID pandemic, and around six million
more were created. A lot of those jobs were in
the public sector. Unemployment average four point one percent, well
below the historical average, which is pretty much where it
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is right now with Trump. Now, let's see what his
economic reforms, what impact they have as we move into
twenty twenty six and beyond, and that will decide whether
or not the Republicans are unceremoniously turned out of office
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in mass in Moss next November, and Donald Trump then
becomes a Lane Duk president. The final book may be
in on Biden, but it is still developing or the
final pictures still developing under Trump. So there were things
that were good. The stock market rose under Biden, as
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it has risen under Trump after tax Corporate profits continue
to trends under Biden, and there's there's a lot of that.
But the US trade deficit in goods and services grew
under Biden by nearly forty percent. Home prices rose thirty
seven point four percent. So it's it's it's a very
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mixed bag.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yes, yes, And.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
If you get a chance to look at fact check
dot org, I can't even begin to go through all.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Dan. I don't disagree with anything you're saying. I am
not a big Biden guy. Maybe you maybe thought that
I would be.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
No, I didn't, but I just wanted to get some
of the numbers here on the record.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So in twenty twenty two, inflation went up ten percent,
and that was the result of some of the bills
that he passed to try to help people out with. Yes,
you know of the lots of income as a result
of the pandemic, and certainly that and that went up,
and you can go back and forth about that, and
I think that's why he lost the election. I think
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people vote from their pocketbooks.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
And that inflation that in Josan's twenty was pretty much
his death. Now. So now we go to Trump and
here's Trump and he's saying I'm going to bring prices down,
and I think we'd all agree that they're pretty much
where they were, you know, something's down.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Something well, somethings are. Some things are dramatically up. Coke,
chocolate products, candy, and and things like that. Believe me,
I buy that stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
And I don't know, but Tim, let's let's not get
into into that. But that's that's But what I would
say is that I do remember in the last year
of Biden's presidency, pretty much every year, every I'm sorry,
every month, he would have about one hundred and eighty
thousand dollars of jobs created. And that went on for
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probably a good year, if not more, and also in
place finally did flat out. So now we have Trump
and we've either lost jobs or maybe gained a few
because of his his policies with tariffs. I think we
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have to agree that things are not what they were.
Not that Biden was a great president, but now we're
down to the point where we're creating very huge jobs
and we might be rolling into recession. Who knows. I'm
not saying we're going to, but it's not what is.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Come on, you know, we're trying to keep you here, William, I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Sorry, I'm sorry, But for her to say that we're
the hottest country in the world, that's how that let.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Me just say this, that is political hyperbole. Okay. However, however,
I think what he is trying to say is that
we are bringing back his tariffs are forcing companies to
consider about bringing back factories in manufacturing jobs to America.
I think that's what he's saying.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
That he is saying that dam But hold on, let's
think for a second. Do you think suddenly these companies
that have been getting great deals from Korea and China
are suddenly going to re invest everything in America and
suddenly we're suddenly going to have this amazing you know,
America reoccurrence, if it even happens.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Well, I can tell you that one of the things
that he mentioned tonight, which is accurate, Which is accurate,
companies have pledged to bring back about eighteen trillion dollars
in manufacturing that might have been planned for overseas. And
if that happens, he will be a transformational president. We
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have lost jobs through Republicans and Democratic administrations for decades.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
But Dan, you're talking hyper purply, and that's hyperpole. Yes,
I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
High it's hype probably to say with the no, it's
hyperbole to say with the hottest Uh, you know economy,
that's hyper. I'm with you on that. But when companies
come and say we're bringing factories back, We're bringing manufacturing
jobs back that were overseas. Again, that is part of
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the tariffs. The tariffs is is the whip or the
or is the is the stick and and the and
then the fact that you can manufacture uh and bring
back jobs to America. That will help the economy. Look, uh,
it will.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
But last last thing I would say is it will.
But it will happen. It's not going to happen in
six months or a year. It's gonna happen in four
or five years. If it happened.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Nothing happens overnight. But I do believe, I do believe
that we have the potential of turning our economy around.
We have to bring home the manufacture of computer chips.
We found out that in the in the early twenty
twenties when we had supply change chain interruptions and we
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couldn't get medicines here. We've allowed very critical products to
be produced overseas by Democrats and Republicans alike. Trump is intent.
Whether he will be successful, we will tell in time.
If he is successful, he will be a transactional president.
If he's a failure, Well.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Do we not live in a world economy where some
things are made better in other areas than we are?
Can we?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I don't think there's anything. I don't think there's anything
that there's stuff that's made cheaper in other parts of
the world. But the reason but I don't think anything
that's made better anywhere in the world. Can you tell
me one thing that has made better overseas in terms
of quality than here in America.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Obviously there are things that China has. They have certain
elements that we can't get here that we have to
deal with.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Well, though, you're talking to real earth minerals from I
get it. Yeah, Okay, right, William. I think I also
think William, in honesty, you're a little over your head here.
I think you need to look at it and realize
that all the results are not in he is. Just
just trust me on this one. Let's see where the
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economy is. The test of Trump is not where the
economy is today. It is not what his ratings are today.
His ratings today are bad, particularly on the economy, There's
no question about that. Okay, But let's see where they
are six months from now where they are.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Not what they're gonna be worse.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Well, that's your opinion. That's an opinion. You'll welcome your opinion.
But I'm not gonna accept that as a fact. Okay,
he's betting his he's betting his president, this smart guy.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Are the tariffs going to bring prices down? I don't
think so.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
The tariffs are not intended to bring prices down. However,
the tariffs have not caused the damage that many predicted
last April. William, calm back more often and we will
drop them.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Listen, you are a great guy, and you are the
mother Teresa of talk radio.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Not a problem. Thank you, Thank you, William. We'll take
a break. We're coming back. We got one line six,
one seirty. I want your reaction to Trump's speech tonight.
That's what I'm looking for. That's what we can analyze tonight.
I'm not gonna discuss or debate with the economy might
be two years. I have a view of it. I
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think he had he betting everything that he might be
a transactional president. If you don't understand what I mean,
I'll be happy to explain it. But back on nights
that after this.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
It's night side with Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Where are we going next? I'm going to try to
get everybody in here, Bernie in New Hampshire, Bernie got
to help me out here, Go right ahead, Bertie, Hey,
how were doing this? I'm hoping I can get everybody
to be a little tight of here so we can
get more points of view about his speech.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, I just want to talk about my reactions. And
you know, I'm not I'm a Trump's supportive, but I'm
also a Trump believer. I just believe that it was
it was laser focus tonight. He didn't go off on
a tangent, which made me very happy because he has
attendency to do that. He was highlighting.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
What he we elected him for. This is what people
voted for.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Him, voting from him. They got it, and it was
highlighting at good points. And I don't know all the facts.
I'm driving. Eventually the facts will come out on his numbers.
And I just believe that he's he's trying to just
show you that he's only what's good for his country,
what he believes is good for his country. Let me
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put it that way. I just believe he was very
focused tonight for some reason.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Well, He needs to be focused because when he goes
off script, it's a disaster. He thinks of himself as
more of a an entertainer and a comedian, which is
which is where he came out of. He's obviously somebody
who is a builder, no question about that. But he ran,
he did a TV show, and he has to realize
he's now president of the United States. So yeah, I
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can only tell you that, you know that it's like
anything else, everybody brings their bias to this. I'm trying
to not bang a bias. I'm trying to just read
what people say. Uh is that you know? There is
one reporter here from The Times who writes in some
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ways Trump finds himself in a situation similar to what
President Biden faced on the economy. Throughout the previous administration,
Biden and his advisors frequently argue the economy was in
better shape than the public believed, using charts and figures.
Trump is attempting to make a similar case tonight. We
won't know he's if he makes that case for at
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least a year. Also, this is David Saying, or White
House reporter for The Times. The Warrior dividend of seventeen
seventy six supposed to come from tariff revenues, the president said,
but those revenues are not for the president to spend.
That's the purview of Congress. He also has talked about
giving two thousand all citizens except the wealthy, and claims
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that over time income taxes will dwindle the promises uppace
the revenue. That's a White House reporter who doesn't like
Donald Trump. I can say this. You have a son
of the military. I'm glad that your son and every
other member of the military will receive a warrior dividend
of seventeen hundred and seventy six dollars. They should get more,
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in my opinion, and we have. He has brought back
in terms of tariffs, some two hundred and fifty billion
dollars in tariffs. That's a lot of money, and let's
give it to people who deserve it, and the military
should be at the head.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Of the line.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yes, I agree with one hundred percent, and they certainly
do deserve it. They sacrifice a lot, not full lot
of money. But I agree with you. I think he's
gonna be a transformational president, but that remains to be seen.
You got East tariffs and that's gonna work. And that's
what that's what people don't have the patience money want
results today. Let's see what happens to give it night.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I'm with you on that, Bernie, thank you so much.
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
All you have a good night.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Listen. Let me go next to Ken and Walta and Ken.
I normally give you a lot more time, but tonight
I'm struggle year to try to get everybody to be
as six sink as possible.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Go ahead, Ken, I will be as fast as I can. Yeah,
you know, I think just a couple of points on falsehoods.
I mean, he said he's reducing some drug prices four
hundred six percent. I don't know how you can reduce
the cost of anything more than one hundred percent. Absolutely,
we talked about he talked about gas prices and with
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some states being at a dollar ninety nine a gallon,
he never mentions where they are. I mean, it's just
not true.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
No, there are there are gas stations in America in
different parts of the country, and I'm sure it's Louisiana, Oklahoma,
Texas where you can find the station at a dollar
ninety nine. The average price of gasoline in America across
the country is now below three dollars.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
So according to the Department of Energy, when Trump came
into office, it was three dollars eight nationwide, now three
dollars five.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
So I will, I want to know when did you
pull those figures?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Uh like ten minutes ago?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Well, I know what I paid, I know what I
pay for gas prices, and I know what I was
paying under Biden, and the disparity is a lot more
than five cents.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
So I how much?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Let me ask you this, ken, Ken, you live in Waltham,
What do you pay when you go to What do
you pay for you? Do you use regular gas or
a high test?
Speaker 5 (17:30):
What?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I don't call it.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I usually get it for about a regular gas about
two ninety maybe two eighty five.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Okay, fine, okay, I can get it for two eighty
three at Patriot Petroleum, and I can, and there are
other people have told me less. What were you paying
on average during the Biden administration on gasoline at the.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
End, at the end, I was paying under three dollars
a gallon? Okay, but sure, of course, I mean it
went up well over four, right, I mean I think
it was close five around here.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yes it was, Yes it was.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
But it hasn't it so, but it hasn't gone down
much since January. That's the thing. I mean, maybe maybe
it has. You know, you've found the right gas station
for you, but it's just not true nationwide and on
the West Coast gas place you can go.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Well again, I don't I don't have in front of
me if you're telling me the Department of Energy is
saying that the average price nationwide, you said was three
oh eight under Biden at the end, it was.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Three oh eight in January twenty twenty five, it's three
oh five. Now I'll send you me now yellow.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
What else do you want to say? Because I only
to me that does not square with my own experience.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
To be really honest, it's a big country, but the
only other, the only other thing because of the stuff
like this. And you know, he said energy prices under
Biden costs the typical American household five to ten thousand
dollars a year. You know, I don't think most people
pay five to ten thousand dollars a year in energy
(19:07):
prices aside, But independent of all of that, it just
sounded familiar to me when he was dealing with COVID,
and I thought he wasn't doing the right things. And
I think, you know, every governor who ran for re
election in twenty twenty who was an incumbenty want you know,
Biden or Trump is the only executive who lost in
(19:30):
the United States in twenty twenty. And I think the
people who are in the middle and a lot of
people on the right, you know, either the people in
the middle switched and voted for Biden in twenty twenty,
and I think a lot of people in the right
stayed home. So I think I think Trump has to
do better. And this relates to the Rob Reiner saying
(19:54):
a little bit because I heard one commentator say, how
how could the White House let him, you know, send
that post out? And another analyst said, well, you know,
with this administration, there's nobody who says no to him now,
and that's by design. And I think Trump's in danger
of things going poorly and everybody's in total agreement with
(20:17):
what he says, and he needs more pushback. Now.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
First of all, he gets pushed back from Susie Wilde.
Read the article that you just she just sat for.
Under Biden, we came to understand that he was not
in charge, that there were people around him who were
in charge. I mean, you know, I mean, if I
(20:41):
just think ken that that he is taking trying to
take the country in a different direction, it's what called
it's what's called being a transformational president. He is basically
saying he's cut more public jobs, you know, not only
in terms of a wash but in other states around
(21:02):
the country. And he's very proud of He's very proud
of that, and there's a lot of people who are
going to be upset about that. I get that, I
truly do get that. But the fact of the matter
is that that he has set us on a course
that is either going to be successful and he will
be uh he will be considered a transactional president, or
(21:24):
he'll be a failure and he'll be in the dustbin
of history along with Herbert Hoover and other Republican failures.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I hope he changes.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I'm seeing the same kind of behavior as four or
five years ago during COVID, and I you know, you
might be right. Yeah again, it's my opinion, right, he said, So,
I just don't see a lot of effects.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Love reading from fact factcheckcheck dot org. Okay. The week
before Joe Biden took office, the national average price of
regular gasoline the pump was two point two dollars thirty
eight cents a gallon. That was still rising from the
one point seven eight one dollars seventy eight cents low
point during the pandemic recession, which lasted from February to
(22:17):
April of twenty twenty. That was when we were getting
hit with COVID. Okay. From there it shot up to
the highest ever requorded just over five dollars a gallon,
ending in June of twenty twenty two, and the world
oil markets were disrupted by Russia's invasion of Ukraine. The
week he left office, the price was down to three eleven,
(22:39):
still thirty one percent higher than when he came into office.
So anyway, those are the numbers. Ken, I gotta go.
I'll give you more time next time. We've given you
six minutes. I'm everybody wants ten minutes tonight. I can't do.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
It, so you'll dan. Thanks so much, Thanks Ken.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
All points of view welcome. If you want to get
in now, now's the time to call six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six, one, seven, nine, three, ten thirty.
Coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
All right, let's keep rolling here. I want your reaction
to the speech and try to put whatever bias you
might have towards Trump. But let's just try to get
your reaction to the speech. I thought he gave probably
the most effective speech of his presidency. Uh. Let's see
(23:40):
where the numbers are in terms of polls a couple
of weeks from now. Let's see where we are in
terms of the economy a few months from now. Bill
is an easton Billia next on Nightside, Go right ahead, Dan.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
It was a short speech. He Hey, this guy's get
an ego, but he's full of vim and vega. Thirty
minute speech is almost out of breath. He digressed a
little bit. How are you gonna throw the shoes? He's
gonna give a third term.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
He's not gonna get a third term. He's not eligible
for a third term.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Anything's possible.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Uh no, no, anything is You know you're right. Anything
is possible. You're right about that. You and I could
be hit by a truck tomorrow. The world could end tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Okay, but realistic in both counts.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
What's that highly unlikely on the book?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Those two counts, right, and and there's there's no way.
I'll tell you right now, market on your calendar and
call me back when I'm wrong. It's eleven forty. It's
eleven forty. Okay, eleven forty on December seventh, twenty twenty five.
There is no way possible, politically or legally for Donald
Trump to begin a third term in office. And he
(24:51):
has in effect said so himself. He is living in
people's heads by by playing you know, well, I could
do even better. No, he will be eighty three years old,
and he will be.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
I totally get it, okay, all day. So he did
a heck of a job. And it is a lot
of hyperbole. By the way, I don't work for this
gas station, but I pay two to forty eight a
gallon full serve cash and Holbrook.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I've heard of those stations, but.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
That salves and it's right on thirty. Yeah, it's the
one across the streets are penny more.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Okay, No, that's fine, that's fine. And uh, and let's sitit.
You know, I've been reading from you know what's what's
called fact org dot com, which is a very fact
check excuse me, dot org FactCheck dot org a project
at the Edinburgh Public Policy Center. Not hardly what you
(25:46):
would call a right wing a group. Let's put it
like that. I think they call it down the middle.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
I was gonna say earlier, you call it, you asking,
you call it what is made outside this country that
we can't make better the same or better? Hey, I
was gonna inject a little human say maybe coffee and bananas,
But I think we have territories we can grow them in.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
But yeah, we can grow bananas.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
And I believe what about the Japanese with their cars.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I I think that that if America puts their mind
to it, we can make cars competitive with Japan. I'm
a guy that has bought like five Vovals. I'll never
buy another Vovo again. I think that Vovo is now
gone as a great car company. And I remember when
when American cars were horrible, were horrible, But I think
(26:38):
American cars are better. They're on the ascent and and
certain certain cars foreign cars are heading downward in my mind, and.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Uh, you're going to pay a pretty penny for it.
The cheapest one is the Chevy Tracks, small suv vow twenties,
but you can't all the all the all the economy
models have been ceased to be being produced. Well, if
I think it's deliberate.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Well let me say this. If we can manufacture cars
here in this country that are competitive with the best
foreign cars, I'll be willing to buy an American car
because it's going to keep American jobs at home and
it's going to make our economy stronger. That's what I
believe in.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Okay, what do you think about people paying an extra
forty dollars for this new blue license plate one hundred
bucks instead the sixty guess one registration.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
If you want to, you know, have be able to
tell your grandchildren that you bought that license plate. That's
the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. That's great. It's like
the people that buy license plates to support the Bruins
and Celtics.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Yeah, that's true. And you can pay more on your
income tax. You can check a box.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Most people don't want to do that, but there's a value.
There's a value. We live in a free society and
there's a value. So that's all. You know, They at
some point probably they're not going to do this, but
they could get to the point where they could say, Hey,
if you want to have your license plate, I love
the Second Amendment. I'm sure there's a lot of people
who would pay a little extra to have a license
plate that says I love the Second Amendment. Whatever.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
Yeah, you're right. I mean so I messay you're grind
your gear segment. I love that you have that, Babe.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
We'll shoot for grind you gears this Friday night. Okay, thanks, Bill,
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Okay, Dan, thanks.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Man, talk to you soon. I'm going to try to
move quickly here. Let me go to Matt and Burlington. Matt,
you're next one nights. I go right ahead.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Hey Dan, Hawaii tonight.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Matt. You've got to be quick for me. I got
you in here before the break, and you've waited long enough.
I didn't want to have to have to wait through
a commercial.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Go right ahead, of course, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
So.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
I was just thinking about a couple of lines of
sadism about what he said tonight during this eighteen minute speech.
A couple of lines he said they were wedding men
playing on the sports transgender for everybody. Another line about
immigration issue Biden. He slipped, he said, we've never been
(29:02):
invaded before, and then he trailed off and said it
was so so bad. I'm Nico opportunity Dan. I criticized
Biden every single time he had a gaff. I'm never
the sad thing than a Trump. He's slipping and more
and more, it's becoming obvious. And he was he was
focused tonight. The speech was focused, was organized, yep, But
(29:25):
he trailed and he's and there are moments where I'm thinking, Okay, first.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Of all, I missed that. And obviously we were invaded
through immigration, okay, meaning they were yes, okay, But I
think what he might have been alluding to is nine
to eleven, which happened on George Bush's watch. I'd have
to go back and listen to it. I was taking
notes feverishly. I did not hear what you heard. I
(29:52):
don't dispute that what you heard was accurate, okay, But
I don't think this guy is slipping. Intellectually.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
He holds nothing, not intellectually, but I'm thinking just he's
talking off the coff but he's trying to keep on
those monitor But.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
He had a script in front of him tonight. I
guarantee you there was a script in front of him tonight,
and he had visual age teleprompters. You know, if there'd
been a wide shot, if you notice the whole shot
started stay tight on him for the entire time. If
they went to a wide shot, you would have seen
the teleprompters both to his left and to his right.
(30:30):
I'm telling you that was not a no one could
have done that eighteen minutes and hit those number of
items that he did. That was not him speaking off
the cuff to a.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Crowd right the end. One quick thing on policy, real
quick on we walk quick. I'm just I'm curious of
what's going to happen this next calendar year going into
twenty six. I'm curious. He mentioned he's going to be
releasing some policy papers about the housing issues and the
cost of housing. I think he said in January. Curiously,
(31:00):
what comes of that? Like to see in address the
costs of steel, costs of lumber, the costs actually build houses.
I want to see this administration get really concrete about this.
And I want to know what he's saying. That the
cost of prescription drug is going to go down, I want,
I want how are they going to try and get
at these these these healthcare opinions that are being deducted. Adam, Adam.
(31:23):
I checked there every check. You know, everything is going
up from price. And I just don't think that that
piece of the messaging is being conveyed.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
You know, well, I hear, I hear what you're saying.
It's one thing to say you're going to do something.
It's another thing to do it. So what you're saying is,
in effect, show me the money. It's what you're saying, okay,
And what you mean by that is show me the savings.
He laid it out tonight. Let's see what can happen.
(31:52):
The fact of the matter is gas prices are down.
That is good for all of us, Okay, and that
part of that is because of Drill, Baby, drill, which
he talked about for years. Let's hope that I want
him to succeed, just like I wanted Joe Biden to succeed,
because I want more money in my pocket. I want
money in your pocket. It did not work well for
(32:14):
Joe Biden. It was the disastrous four years in many respects.
I'm not sure who was running the White House. I
know who's running the White House. Right now. And the
idea is that he's articulating to me sound promising, but
they only sound promising. Let's see if those promises are fulfilled.
We will know within a year.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Thanks, Thanks, got to run, Matt, Thank you much. All right,
we're going to try to get everybody else in. Eddie
and Boston, Kevin and Hanson, Mike and Beverly. The three
of you have not waited nearly as long as the others.
You're going to have to be quick. I'll get you
all in. I'm gonna try back on night side after this.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
It's Night on Boston's news radio Tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Other way at nine o'clock. Historical novelist William Martin Cape Cod,
Back Bay, Annapolis, The Lost Constitution, Lincoln Letter, Harvard Yard
in his Well, his latest book, which is December of
forty of forty one, will be with us tomorrow night.
(33:24):
It's he's amazing. He's an amazing author. He's an amazing author,
and he's a Boston guy through and through. Catholic Memorial Harvard.
He'll be here tomorrow night, nine o'clock. Let's go next
to Kevin in Handsome Kevin, you got to be quick
for me because I got two guys behind you, and
they're gonna they're gonna be upset if I can't get
(33:46):
them in as well.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
Go right ahead, Kevin, Okay, Dann, can you.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Hear me perfectly?
Speaker 8 (33:51):
Go ahead, Okay, good one.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
I just wanted to point out people have a lot
of lack of trust in the American worker. Uh, America
rose up when we were attacked by Japan and switched
industries and overcame all the problems of World War Two.
You know, people don't they don't appreciate history, and they
(34:14):
just go off what they hear on you know, major media.
I do appreciate you beating back on some of the
comments that were done tonight. You gotta let a president
do his job, and uh, he's gonna do a good job.
He's gotta let him do it.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I mean, I think again, no one can do No
one can turn the economy around. No one can turn
the economy around overnight. He's had eleven months. What he has,
the path that he's on, he has to continue down.
Let us see what happens. The only people who I
think have lost immensely during his time in office are
(34:53):
those people who were here illegally and who have either
self deported or been deported.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
Now at the say, people got to remember our tax
dollars are here to benefit American citizens, you know, and
they and there's no beating that back. You know, the
people that work in work eighty hours a week just
to keep their own stuff going and pay taxes do
not appreciate. Uh, you know, their tax dollar is going
where they don't belong, right, And.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
That's that is in large part why he won. And
let us see if his philosophy very different from from
Joe Biden and very different for the Republican Party. As
I say, he has the potential to become a transformational president.
We'll see.
Speaker 8 (35:33):
Oh, I thank you for that correction, Dan.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
And I don't know if you remember that right when
he first came into office the first time around, he
pushed a company called Carrier around a little bit and
made them, you know, continue to manufacture in the United States.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Or I can remember that, Kevin. I got two other
guys behind me, behind you, who have waited just as long.
I got to be fair. Thank you, my friend. Talk again,
Paul more often. I'll give you more time. Eddie and Boston.
Eddie got to be I got Mike and Beverley behind you.
Go ahead, go ahead, Eddie.
Speaker 8 (36:04):
Yes, then you did really well trying to keep this
conversation going. One thing I think that's a little disappointing
with the speech is that Trump was a little chaotic
after announcing that you're gonna do it evening nighttime speech.
(36:24):
It's got to be a very smooth, direct and to
the point, and just like always, he's always all over
the place. But we do have to give him the
benefit of the doubt because when we consider where we
were and where we are now, we definitely better off.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Well, I think that's a pretty good analysis. I mean,
it was like it was like we were trying to
drink from the fire hose. But I think his intention
was to try to reach as many different constituencies and saying, hey,
this is what I've done, this is why it's better,
this is why it will be better. There were mistakes,
certainly there were. There was hyperbole, always hyperbole, but there
(37:04):
were more facts and figures and and and facts that
could be checked than hyperbole. And for that I give
him credit.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
Well, you should have written this speech for him. You
did a good job. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Thanks. Eddie talked soon, called more often, Mike and Beverly. Mike,
we only got about a minute left, go right ahead, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
I did, couldn't Why Dan, Yeah, I thought this speecure
was great. I listen to something ycler Is like. I
find him maze. But I think Trump did a great
job putting the graphs up, the showing people visually. I
thought was a better job in the grass people, so
people getting see what's going on when he's talking about.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
My God, Mike, I gotta tell you, I missed that.
I listened to it on radio because I know that's
what my audience, So therefore I was not the beneficiary
of any graphs or whatever. But uh, that will all
come out in the polls tomorrow where people pleased his
poll numbers are down. I suspect they only will go
(38:02):
up as a result of this speech.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
I don't think you're pulled up and down because people
and don't And.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
I get it, Mike, whether you want to believe it, Mike,
whether you want to believe it or not, all polls
at this point are down. And I think that's one
of the reasons why he gave this speech tonight, and
one of the reasons why it was scripted and Uh,
he was forced to stay on topic. Now, maybe he
hit too many topics. It wasn't a Ronald Reagan's speech,
(38:31):
which would have had some some stories and some anecdotes
and been much more folksy and and and a calmer presentation.
But it was Donald Trump tonight. It was Donald Trump.
I thought at his best that he could He could
not do a Ronald Reagan's speech. It was a Donald
Trump's speech. People can make it. I believe it will
(38:53):
help him in the polls. We'll see.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Yes, I think you did a great job as a guest. Thing.
Go you first. California is still get a fight all
of the gallop right now. So that's why the you
know some some the gas average you were talking about
earlier with the caller earlier is like, you know, three
something whatever it is. But if you take the Democrat
state like California, New York out of it, it's way
(39:16):
below it.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
All right, fair enough, Mike, you got the last word
in right night.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I will do a nightside postgame because I want to
comment a little bit on what we talked about tonight.
I want to thank all the listeners. I want to
thank all the callers, those of you who not normally
call tonight, thank you very much. Those of you who
chose not to call tonight, you can call tomorrow night,
Tomorrow night. William Martin, extraordinary author, writes historical novels about
(39:49):
New England and Cape Cod Back Bay, Harvard Yard, Annapolis,
sometimes out of New England, The Lincoln Letter. He will
be with the Lost Constitution and just a brilliant guy
and a great friend. Tomorrow night at nine o'clock. Feel
free to call and talk with him tomorrow night. I'm done, Rob,
(40:09):
Thank you, Marita, thank you. I will be on Facebook
nightside with Dan Ray in a couple of minutes. Quickly,
all dogs, all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's
why my pal Charlie Rays, who passed fifteen years ago,
that's where all your pets are who have passed. They
loved you, and you love that. I do believe you'll
see them again. We'll see again tomorrow night on Night's side.
It's going to be a nicer day tomorrow. Enjoy it.
See you tomorrow night,
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