April 16, 2025 • 38 mins
The Registry of Moter Vehicles is bracing for the rush of drivers trying to get their Real ID before the May 7th deadline. This is a hard deadline, whereas in years past the Covid pandemic delayed the process. It has been nearly impossible to get an appointment at the RMV due to the influx of people, so the Registry is now talking walk-in appointments to help mitigate the process. What has been your experience with getting a Real ID or trying to?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, we are going to carry over our conversation from
last hour talking about the necessity and the difficulty of
getting a Massachusetts real ID driver's license people in every state,
whether you're listening in Massachusetts or anywhere else, the deadline
is May seventh. Now, if you intend to travel by airplane,
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you need to get a real ID. All it is
is your driver's license with this insignia in the up
right hand corner, which makes it a real ID. You've
shown enough identification which convinces the Registry or the Triple
A here in Massachusetts, which is an extension on this
project from the Registry so that you could fly on airplanes.
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If you do not have a real idea and you
just have a traditional driver's license, then what you're going
to have to do is carry a US passport with
you if you want to fly on an airplane after March,
after May seventh, or you're going to have to take
a passport if you want to go to a federal
office building. Now, unlike one of our last callers last hour,
Ellen from Marshfield, she has jury duty in Brockton that's
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a state court, so she's fine, you should bring a
piece of identification with you, assuming you want to do
jury duty. But that's another story for another time. So
I'm going to continue on here. If we get another
hour out of the conversation, great, If not, we'll move on.
So if you've been at the registry recently and had
a good, batter and ugly experience, let us know. I
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had an experience. This has been at least four years
ago when I get my real idea. What happened was
we had nine to eleven. We realized we had a
tighten up security at the airports. TSA took over the
airline checkpoints, as you know, and you have to really
have identification even to get through the checkpoints. But they
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also now want to make it a little bit more
difficult and make it a little more uniform across the country,
which is fine with me. Whatever security they wanted with pose,
I'm okay with it, because with them, when I'm at
thirty thousand feet on an airplane, I want to make
sure there's no nut job on the plane's going to
do something really stupid like try to light his shoe
or blow up his shoe on the plane as we
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had with Remember Richard Reid, the guy here in Massachusetts
actually who was trying to light his shoe because it
had I guess he had TNT in the shoe or
something or some sort of explosive device. So we want security,
and in order to have security, we got to give
up a little bit of liberty. I get that. I
get that. And at the same time, this is a
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deadline which has been delayed several times, at least once
or twice because of COVID, and now this deadline is
for real. So let's get back to the call, see
what people have to say. I'm hoping that Joe in Boston,
who we tried to get on last hour is at
the phone right now. Hey, Joe, we're going to get
you to the head of the line. Here, go right ahead.
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You're on night side.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Hi, can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I could hear you? Find Joe? Where were you before?
I think my producer said you had walked away from
the phone. Not a good idea. Go ahead, Joe. What's
been your experience with the real ID.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Well, I haven't had to do it recently, but a
few years ago I had to get a real ID.
I wanted to get one, and just so you know,
it only was good for four years, not five. That's
one thing.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Well, well it might have been the cycle of my
real idea that I'm looking at right now. It was
issued to me on June second, twenty twenty three, and
it expires in July of twenty twenty eight, so it's
actually good for a little more than five years. So
it could have been that your license was only a
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year old when you got it, and maybe they said, well,
we can only give you the balance of your current license.
I think it depends upon we're in the license cycle.
You you applied to get the real real idea.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Well, it had expired, but it was less than two
years expired, so that's why I could upgrade it and
get a new one.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
And that might so you were you were driving on
an expired license, expired license for two years, and no
one grabbed You're good for you, but that you were
lucky Joe.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
No, no, no, I wasn't. I wasn't driving. Oh okay,
I didn't have a car during then, Okay, okay I didn't. Yeah,
well why you only got four years?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You know, I don't know, but I'm sure there's some
registry rule of regulation that they applied. I'm sure that
they weren't trying to cheat you, but.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Oh no, I'm not. I'm not worried about that. By
the way. The guy from New Hampshire, he only mentioned
the couple forms that he has summit, and that told
me that he probably got a regular idea on a
real one if.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, but I think that was Bernie from New Hampshire.
And Bernie said that his wife is like somebody who
is somebody who really puts a folder together and gives
him everything that he needs. And so he almost sounds
like his wife takes care of that. He was making
the point that she put in the license and put
in whatever else you know, his his SO security card
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or whatever. So I'm sure that he got a real ID.
He's a pretty sharp guy. By the way.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Well, well, the guy who said he said not federal ID,
I thought he was New Hampshire. He was the one
who only mentioned a couple of documents, and it sounded
like if it says not a federal ID, he must
have gotten a real one. And he said it would
have been good enough for him because he didn't need
a real one.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, I'm not sure if that I know it wasn't Bernie,
that might have been Abraham from Newby put I my calls.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah yeah, okay, well the main, the main, the main
reason I called. The main reason I called was that
I was going to try and renew a license at
some point, and if I didn't have to get an appointment,
it could just walk in to be good. However, both
TV and radio, including WBS, have mentioned walking appointments, and
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my I talked to a person on the phone and
at the registry, and she said that if you don't
need to fly before after May seventh, then they don't
give you a walk in. If you're going to need
to fly, then the walk in is available, but otherwise
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need to make an appointment.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And what I heard today, and again there's always a
lot of confusion here, but what I heard today was that.
But what my producer told me was that they had
decided that because a lot of people had difficulty getting appointments,
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as some friends of mine told me they the only
appointment they could get was in Nantucket, that the registry
late today decided that they would accept people you could
walk in. So I'll try to check that in the break.
If you're correct. That would make sense what you're saying
that if they said, gee, you know, I got to
take a plane on May eighth, can I get my
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real ID, they would take that person and give them
a priority over somebody who had said, Gee, I don't
have to fly in the next year, but I'd like
to get my real ID. So I'll see if there
was a statement that the Registry clarified that today. But
I'll have that fra on the other side of that.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I was talking to the Registry person and she said
that that was the case, and I assumed that if
you needed a real idea to get into some federal building,
that would give you a chance for a walk in also,
but we didn't discuss that.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, what I've got here this is a story from
Channel five, So let me read it to you. If
you still have not gotten a real ID, good news.
The Massachusetts Registery of Motor Vehicles is offering walking appointments
for procrastinators at all branches. And then it goes on
to say, as of May seventh, twenty twenty five, every
air traveler eighteen years of age or older will need
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a real ID to come a real ID compliant driver's
license or Identification card, another Transportation Security Administration acceptable form
of identification for domestic air travel and to enter certain
federal facilities. The new ID meets federal standard and is
characterized by a gold star in the upper right hand
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corner of the of the license. If you still have
an old ID and this is not going to let
me roll up here, Oh this is frustrating. I wish
I had a produce a sitting here with me, but
that's okay. Here we go. This is from another station,
the registery motor vehicles to see more and more people
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trying to get a real ID or identification card. I've
head of next announced Tuesday yesterday, and it's now accepting
walking appointments for people who need the real ID for
imminent travel plans. So you're right, You're right, Joe. You
gotta have a RE you gotta have an imminent travel plan.
Good correction, Joe, I thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Okay, thanks Joe, have a good one.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
All right. We'll keep rolling here. And the only line
open we got full lines is six one seven, and
full lines always music to my eyes. We'll be back
on night Side right after this.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WZ Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Okay, back to the phones, you go. I'm gonna go
to Scott in Quincy. Scott, welcome next on Nightside. How
are you sure?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
And Yan not a great show you And I was
fortunate enough that when I got my real idea a
couple of years ago at the Triple A office in Quincy,
and uh, it was it was easy for me. I
had my passport, my driver's license, my Ham radio license,
my Massachusetts firearms license, and just about every bill uh
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and piece of identifying literature I could bring with me.
And it was like a slam dunk for me.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah. You know. The person last hour who raised the
concern was he said that he had a post office
box because he wanted to have you know, the security
and privacy and had and he said that post office
boxes were not addresses were not helpful. But sounds to
me like you had everything you needed in more. I'm
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not surprised Scott that, because you're a pretty thorough guy
from my experience.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Now here's the interesting question is there are going to
be a bunch of people that will not be able
to get a real I D because they have driver's licenses.
But they may have been issued those drivers licenses and
they may not be really who they say they are.
Isn't the real ID program away for the for the
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FEDS to sweep up people who who who aren't who
they say they are or I don't think.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
When it came into effect that was its intention, but
it certainly might make it a little easier. I think, Look,
the FEDS are pretty active right now, as I think
we've seen. There was an arrest on in New Bedford yesterday.
You have this guy down in Maryland who was flown
down to the Seacott prison in El Salvador. I don't
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think he's coming back anytime soon. And yeah, there's there's
this could be. This wasn't anticipated obviously when Joe Biden
was president, no one was going around checking people's IDs. Uh,
but if you can, if you have, you know, if
you're here illegally, you shouldn't have a SOB security number,
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If you're here illegally, you shouldn't have a birth certificate
saying you were born here. So those are the fundamental
identification items that people need to get a real idea.
So this might be one way to separate the wheat
from the chaff. Yeah, I get your point.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Absolutely. Well, it's going to be interesting to see what
Massachusetts does that if some people get caught up in
that dragnet. And and well.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I would assume that that if that if all of
a sudden, someone comes up to you or me and
we have a real ID and they say, okay, you
know you're you know you're you're so and so, and
you say, no, I'm not so and so. I'm Scott
from Quinsy or I'm Dan from Nightside. Uh, and you
can quickly say, I want to show you my license
with my real ID.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I think that's right.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
That would be something a piece of identification that would
be on question show that we have proven to at
least the registered motor vehicles that we are US citizens
and we were born here and we have a SO
security number. So there is that ancillary benefit, if you will,
of the program for US citizens.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Well, I bet there are some people shaking in their
boots at the thought of they're going to have either
try and get this and hope for the best, or
they or they're not going to get it because they
know they couldn't couldn't meet the standard.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, they probably would would not try to get it
unless they could get some phony documents, but that becomes
a little bit more difficult here. So that's a benefit
that I had not thought of. Scott, great call, always thoughtful,
Thank you as always, Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yeah, good night, jam.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Thanks belt, talk to you soon. I'm going to keep
rolling here, picking up the pace just a little bit,
going to go to Tony's and native Hey, Tony, welcome
back next on night Saga right ahead, Tony.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Hi, Good evening, Dan. I hope you will dult me
for a few moments. The way my brain works and
connect things connect. I'm driving to the airport as we speak,
and we were talking about the real ID. You mentioned
the access to federal buildings. Well, I happened to be
going through my grandchildren in Oklahoma, so I'll be flying
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into Oklahoma City. And I just wanted to remind you
all listeners that I know up here we were celebrating
the battle Alexicon and Conkent on Saturday, but Saturday is
also the thirtieth anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
And that is correct that you're very that was April.
That was April nineteenth. You're in nineteen ninety five. I
remember exactly where I was with my family. I was
here in Massachusetts. But that was a horrifying day.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Yeah, I just want everybody to remember one hundred.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Actually, can you hold hold it fors for one second, Tony,
if you know mine, I'm mistaken. I remember I was
when the when there was that shootout with the UH
at the ranch somewhere in Texas that that ended up
engulfed in flames. But we were in Disney. We were
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in Disney World. What was the name of the place
it was. There was a guy David sebody.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Who was Yeah, it was the Branch Davidians.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
And Branch Davidians, Yes, And what was the guy's name
that was the leader of the group, David Koresh.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
He adopted that name as I guess, I guess the
Branch Davidians before the Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
And and my understanding is that the Oklahoma City bombing,
which did occur in April nineteenth, nineteen ninety five, was
in the mind of Timothy McVeigh in retaliation for what
happened at that conflagration with the camp with the the Davidians.
But when that happened, we were on vacation in Disney
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World and we had just come back, you know, go
to the morning at Disney World. We came back to
the to the little motel and I turned on the
TV and all of a sudden, it was like a
news conference. And it took me about ten seconds to realize.
I didn't know what had happened, but I said, something
really bad had happened. And indeed it was the bombing
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of the federal building, the Mara Building in Oklahoma City.
And several years later, several years ago, I visited that
site with a friend of mine who was being inducted
into the Oklahoma Sports Hall of Fame, and I was
his presenter and his wife and we visited and that
was a very eerie place. Have you ever been there?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Yes, I have.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Well with their last last summer. Yeah, I'm staying away
from it this Saturday quite busy.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Good. Well, good for you. Thank you for reminding us,
Tony uh and I hope you have a great weekend.
You'll you're going to celebrate Easter, you said with your grandchildren.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Yes, yes, my my new Jersey raised. The daughter has
adopted in Oklahoma as her state, and she.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Loved It's a great state.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
That's all right, It's okay.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
There's some great restaurants in Oklahoma.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
What good steak, I'll.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Tell you that exactly, exactly, Thank you, Dan.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
I won't take up any more.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Of your time.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Just prayer well.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Absolutely, And and they were innocent children killed in that bombing.
I think it was one hundred and sixty five souls
who lost their lives. And McVay was eventually, rightfully so executed.
He told his Lloyd to drop all appeals. He wanted
to be executed. He was a weird dude.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
He thought he was going to be exactly do you
want to talk about? Is that that Wago book that.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I just read.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
There's a picture of mc bay down there old vigil watch.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Okay, So so that even more solidifies the the connection.
And then one of a couple of his co conspirators.
I think they're still serving life in prison at the
supermacs out there in Colorado.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Yeah, that's right, Tony.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Thank you so much. Have you called me before?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
I have once in a while with some stocky comments.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
That's okay. You can call him and make pleasant comments
or snarky comments. You're a good caller. You you recalled
with with I think importance. The the incident that that
horrified the nation. I mean it, it just seems that
every five or ten years something comes along which is
so horrific. Tony. Thank you for your time, and thank
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you for your call. And have a great Easter weekend
with your family.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Yes, have a wonderful weekend too. Take care, Thank.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
You, Tony. Good night. All right, good night, take quick break.
Here's the news. At the bottom of the hour, we
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Speaker 1 (19:42):
Back after this, it's Night Side with Dan Ray, Boston's
news Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Okay, so we're talking about the real life, the real
ID deadline, which exists. It's May seventh across the country.
We're focusing on Massachusetts. Uh. The registery motor vehicle offices
in Massachusetts, we call it. The R and V registering
motor vehicles here uh and the Triple A offices which
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take up really provide a very great service to augment
the Registry of motor vehicles. Are overwhelmed. Let me go
to George and Bridgewater. George, next on nightside.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
Welcome back, Hey Dan, how you doing. I'm going to
be your part time producers tonight. You sure you were
going to check you will? You were going to check
out that gentleman's uh I D at the at the
at the party you got coming up? So I checked
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my license and I also have not for real ID.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
So I don't use Google that much.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
I use uh, you know, on my laptop co pilot
AI And I say what why real I D says
not for Federal ID, and it simply says, uh it
it does not meet the security standards set by the
real ID Act.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Okay, now hold on for let me ask you a question.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Yeah, go ahead, George.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
You're a You are a good listener and a good caller.
So you have a Massachusetts driver's license. In the right
hand upper right hand corner of the driver's license, is
there a gold circle or a yellow circle with a
white star in it?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
No, no, sir, I uh and I just found out
tonight that I thought I had a real ID. Uh
and I and I don't I have that, uh that
saying on my license, so well not not the federal
I d.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
No, right, So well, thank you for doing that, because
I was a little confused. But I'm looking at my
license right now, and I guarantee you, uh, I have
in my upper right hand corner it's a gold circle.
It's very small. I mean, it's not tiny, but it's
not it doesn't blow your way, and it's on your license.
I assume you have the silhouette of the of the
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Golden Dome at the State House, right Oh yeah, okay,
so it's to the right of that as you look
at your license, and inside the yellow circle is a
white star, five pointed star, typical you know star that
would look like on an American flag star. So that
proves to me that I do have the real ID.
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And if it says on your license not for federal use,
I should have asked Tim from Woburn if he had
that orange that gold circle again, either gold or yellow
with a white right, so you can't have them both.
They got that and on my license you don't have that,
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and you have it. What is the language on yours?
It says not for federal purposes? Is that when it
says that you quoted.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Ext but you know, you know then I want to know.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Okay, I know.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
I walked up to the window. I said I don't
want a real ID because I had my passport and
I had a couple letters mailed to me or whatever.
And she didn't want to talk too much, and she
just took my picture and on my way. I didn't
know that I didn't have a real ID. But these
are the reasons why that AI would gave me Why
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you didn't get a real ID. You did not apply
for real ID. Okay, that's a no brainer. Missing requirement documents.
You've talked about that tonight, name mismatch issues, state specific
policies that have to be complicated with this state.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Oh, it's very.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Choice.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
Anyway. Anyway, so I did my homework for you using
AI Windows AI Copilot, And you know that's when you
walk up there, if you're not pushing this lady didn't
want to talk to me. She just took all my
paperwork and took my picture.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
On off off I went.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Anyway, Well, The other thing too, is the other thing too, George,
is that did she hand you a license or did
she hand you sort of a temporary license and then
you got the the actual you know, license license a
couple of weeks in the mail.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
Yeah, it was temporary.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Okay. So what happens is you walked out of there,
you figured you were all set. She dropped the ball.
She should have said to you, George, there's one piece
of identification that is missing here that you need or
whatever the whatever the problem was. She just took your
application rejected. It never took the time of the courtesy
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to tell you, and and you walked out of there.
Would be like if you if if you went to
a store and you you went to the meat counter
and you ordered liam chops and and the guy decided
to put hamburg in there, misheard you, and you handed
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you know, and you went home and you didn't you
open them order Hamburger or the lampshops. This one, whoever
that person was, they failed you, and maybe they failed.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
Tim as well exactly. And then you know, I was
just thinking, in a funny way, we need to eat
on musk here in Massachusetts and camp a few of
these people. I hate going to the DMV. I mean, yeah, no, no,
it's but anyway, thanks for your show, because I just
found out tonight I don't have real ID, even though
I don't need it. I'm not going to be traveling
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and I have a passport, so I'm cool.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
When does your license? When does your license expired? George?
If you know?
Speaker 7 (25:46):
It inspired about a year and a half ago. A
year ago, and that's when I went. I said, I
might as well get my real idea. At the same time,
you know, I had all my paperwork with me, at
least I thought I did.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
So your your license then is good? Is it good?
Your regular license is good for another two or three years?
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Yeah, yeah, three, three or four more years, yes, sir, Well.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
You probably if you wanted to, if you all of
a sudden decided you want to, you know, fly and
and well if you could when after May seventh, when
the rush sort of slows down, go back there and
explain what happened and see if they'll they'll adjust it
for you.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Oh they will.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
And it went on to the last paragraph in this
AI that I did for you. If you need a
real ID, you can check with your state DMV and uh,
see what documents you need and you're on your way.
You know it's perfect.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
You are. You've been a good co producer tonight of
the program. Thanks George. Your check will be the check
will be in the mail, Thanks George. All right, thanks buddy,
don't you soon? Quick break? Right back on Night's Side.
We'll be back with at least three more callers. We
got one line at six one, seven thirty, one line
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will change topics at at eleven right after eleven o'clock news,
we will talk about President Trump versus Harvard University.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Back we go. Let me see, we're gonna go to
quickly Chuck and Georgia Chuck next on nights.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
I go right ahead, Hi, Dan, how are you good?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Chuck? You waited a long time here. I'm a little
bit getting tight on time. I got four more calls
once you got going on Georgia.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
License when I first moved to Georgia from Massachusetts almost
nine years ago, and mine has a white star surrounded
by black.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Okay, that's gonna give me different states, I think, different
states at different.
Speaker 8 (27:54):
Calico Boats, and here they give you a license for
eight years. It's about thirty dollars I think, and.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
A little more expensive up here.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
Yeah. Yeah, the DMV up there is a cash cow.
But here at seventy five, you have to go into
the DMV and take an eye test. Yep, sure, and
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I think that's the same. I'm not sure if it's
seventy five or eighty, but I think that's something that
people have to do on a more regular basis. But
I assume it's an eye test. If you have glasses
or contact lenses, it's an eye test that you know
with correction.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
Well, the strange thing is they give you a license
for another eight years.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I thure that they figure if it's seventy five, your
eyes just tou a reasonably good, they'll probably be good
down the line. I guess. I don't know.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
I would have thought they would have given you one
for two or three or four.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
But nah, I didn't have to charge you more money.
As is the registery down there a little more friendly
than in Massachusetts or what's the deal?
Speaker 8 (29:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, even in uh there's two around here.
One they're about twenty miles apart. But they're good people.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Okay, let's do Let's let one more question for the
Georgia Chamber of Commerce as a Yankee going down there. Okay,
will you wally welcomed or were you tolerated?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Now?
Speaker 8 (29:33):
They think that sometimes you bring a more democratic view
than a Republican view, you know, I see they don't.
They don't like that too much.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
But you just wait, you dissuaded that that with your
mega hat or something. I'm sure.
Speaker 8 (29:50):
Yeah, even if.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
There's one that you go ahead.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
If there's one thing that they give you the side
I about is you know whether or not archer Republican
or Democrat?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Well, it used to be the democratic South. Was the
South was the democratic stronghold. That has all changed, hasn't it.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (30:15):
Here where I live, it's mostly Republican. When you get
out two hundred and some miles west around Atlanta, it's
all Democrat. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, Well, it's good to have some diversity in every state.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
Well, all right, I'll let you go, than John.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Great to hear your voice call more often. Will. I
always enjoy talking to you, But I got three behind you,
so I got to take care of them as well. Okay, buddy, No, worries.
Thanks Happy Eastern, good you too. All right, good night
We go next to Mark in New Hampshire. Mark next
on Nightside.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
Yeah I did.
Speaker 9 (30:49):
One of your previous callers actually kind of stole some
of my thunder as far as what's going on with
this real id because it sounds like a couple of
your previous listeners they have a tradition license, they don't
have the real idea and I don't think they know it.
And I think going forward there's going to be some
unhappy folks when they go to Logan to fly and
think they're all set, I just got my license, you know,
they'll say six months ago and they're told, no, this
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isn't a really d what But I think you're right.
I think it looks like the upright end corner has
to have the star in the Hampshire. It's a silhouette
of the old man in the mountain, but it's got
that star. I mean, I think that's type of public
service to people saying, hey, do you really have a
real idea? This is how you have a check by
looking in the upright hand corner. If you don't you
know a real idea? If it says not a federal ID.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
What is the color star on your license? You have
a New Hampshire license. Mine is it's sort of yellow
or gold with a white star in the middle of that.
Speaker 9 (31:40):
In the Hampshire, it's like I said, the silhouette of
the old Man of the Mountain with the gold and
then it's got that white five pointed star in the
upright end corner. That's the real ID for sure. And
it's got a hologram picture of me about a third
of the way over, which I didn't realize till tonight.
Was playing with it under the light, and it's got
two other pictures on the front of the license.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
But yeah, you know, I don't have enough light of that.
But I know mine is fine. And I hope that
some of our people tonight, they like George from Bridgewater,
he told the story that you're referring to. He went
up there expecting that he was going to get the
right ID, uh, and no one the woman didn't talk
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to him behind the counter, and he walked out, and
he's realizing tonight that he doesn't have a real ID.
Speaker 9 (32:27):
And that's I think be a lot of other people.
I went to New Hampshire and the third twenty seventh
of March. I forget, I'll do it in a few days,
and they said, oh, our next appointments sometime in April.
It was on my birthday. I said, well, I don't
want to be here on my birthday. I want to
do something with my wife. So she goes, well, you
can take a chance and come and walk in, but
it might be thirty minutes to two hours. I said,
I'll take a chance, so I went the next day.
I got there about eight fifteen and they opened at
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eight and I was in and out in fifty five minutes.
But I'm so glad I waited because it was all
The woman at the counter could have been more pleasant.
And a friend said, well she smiling. I said she
was smiling, and I said to her, it's nice to me.
I'll tell him. I said, I'm really glad I was in.
You're lying because you're a very pleasant person to deal with.
She says, oh, thank you. But it was very smooth.
Whereas while I'm waiting, some lady trying to get a
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real ID, the gentleman saying, hey, this isn't a Social
security and we don't have a so security card. This
isn't gonna fly. Oh well what about this. Nope, no,
I have a utility bill. Goes, well, that's just building address.
It doesn't say service address, so this doesn't count either.
So she didn't get her real idea that day.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
That was the guy who was just giving her hard time.
And I'm you know, it's like he probably you give
some of these people a little bit of authority and
you know they're going to use it. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (33:35):
I totally agree. It's like and the poor woman, I mean,
it's it's pretty stressful and you think you've got all
those information that's you don't have you need.
Speaker 8 (33:43):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I brought my BROO certificate. I brought my uh my passport,
my driver my current driver's license. But they said, well,
we need to have two bills to show you live there,
and I had brought on one, so I had to
I had like an electric bill. I had to go
and get a gas bill.
Speaker 9 (34:00):
So yeah, and I don't mean the laugh. That's the
type of thing like I had a cable bill and
a utility electric bill, which was perfectly fine. And she goes, no,
you're all set. You got a passport, yeah, and you're
good to go. Nice because I had it it's nice.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
To know that New Hampshire does have some jerks as
well as nice people, because normally everybody in New Hamp's
just nice.
Speaker 9 (34:21):
Right. He got what worked out right, got in the
mail today. It took from the twenty seventh of March
till today. They say within forty five days. It was
on three weeks or whatever it's been in I'm holding
my hand up. So it came plenty of time and
it worked out very well. Experienced.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
So long. I love New Hampshire. Man, you have the
greatest governor. Uh yeah, hopefully AOT does a good job too.
I got two more. I got to get to March,
so I'm gonna let you run. Thanks man, talk.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Soon, all right, have a good night, great one.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Good night, Mary and jempshould Mary got room for you
in one more.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Go ahead and Mary, Okay, I'm gonna make it quick.
I went to get last year, I went to get
my license renoved, and I hope to get the real ID.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
I bought everything with me and the woman looked at
it and she said, you kind of get the real idea.
I said, why not? She said, because your Social Security
card is laminated.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah, you ridiculous. Yeah, yes I have because in the
instructions and I read it last hour, it's it said
that on your Social Security card and laminated documents will
not be accepted. Now, first of all, when you have
a SOB security card, most people are going to laminate
it to make sure that it stays in decent shape.
How ridiculous is that, you know? I mean, just.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Okay, I'm gonna let you go listen, have a happy
stuff you toobe Mary.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
And by the way, there are other options. Do you
have a passport, go back with your passport, okay, or
your birth certificate and that will that will do in
lieu of a Social Scurity card. And in terms of
the Social Security number, if you bring a copy of
your tax bill, you know, like your federal tax bill
that has your SOB Security number, that will do it
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in lieu of the SOLDI you do not have to unliminate.
You Also, by the way, can order through the sold
Security office. Tell him you lost your card and they'll
send you a replacement card. I have a replacement card
which is you know, looks like that. Well it is
brand News. So that's another way you can do it.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Okay, just the license that I have does say not
to federal I D yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Well that you get that. You gotta have that in
the upper right hand corner. It's a circle that's for
us here in Massachusetts, yellow gold and mark for Mahampshire.
Said the same thing. Thank you, Mary.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
I appreciated plain find it. So that was all right, Dan,
have a hairy, nice easter.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
You too, Happy easter. Good night. Let me go to Jim.
Jim you were next on nights that you're gonna wrap
the hour for us.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Go ahead, Jim Man, have a hairy easter.
Speaker 10 (36:44):
Here are you.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I'm doing great. Hope you have a good one out
there as well. So have you got your your real
ID yet?
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Dan?
Speaker 10 (36:53):
I'm a big, big truck driver, so I've had it
for three years. About three years. I got it like
like I think all responsible people about six months before
the deadline, because who wants to wait till the deadline
to get pulled over? And you can't, you know, and
then your your load is i'll call it total. So
I got it. Then they've extended it. Then they extended
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it again. And since they extended it, I got additional
certifications or whatever you want to call them. So then
I had to have my license reissued. Well, in this state,
every certification is a sixty dollars, so my license cost
me one hundred and eighty bucks. So it's cost me
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a lot of money because of the fact I've had
to pay quite a bit extra because of the fact that.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
They Well, the good news is you're up to date.
And guess what that is a part of your living.
So hopefully it's a tax deduction.
Speaker 10 (37:52):
I want all these bozos without the real id off
the road gone long, and then.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
All the boos up the road, there'd be no people
on the road.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Jim, come on, well, anybody who doesn't the thing.
Speaker 10 (38:06):
Is, I mean, people are gonna find out you don't
need it.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
You need it.
Speaker 10 (38:10):
You need it because if they can't make a positive
ID on you. The reason why they're doing this is
because there could be like fifty three Ricardo Valdez right right,
and so you get pulled, you get pulled over. There's
a guy named Ricardo Valdez with fifty three warrants out
for their arrest, and they can't you know, and they
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can't be sure that it's you. You're not here.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
You called really late. I'm flat out of time. We'll
have more time, next time we chat. Thank you, my friend,
gotta go. Here comes the eleven. We're gonna talk about
Donald Trump versus Harvard University on the other side.
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, we are going to carry over our conversation from
last hour talking about the necessity and the difficulty of
getting a Massachusetts real ID driver's license people in every state,
whether you're listening in Massachusetts or anywhere else, the deadline
is May seventh. Now, if you intend to travel by airplane,
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you need to get a real ID. All it is
is your driver's license with this insignia in the up
right hand corner, which makes it a real ID. You've
shown enough identification which convinces the Registry or the Triple
A here in Massachusetts, which is an extension on this
project from the Registry so that you could fly on airplanes.
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If you do not have a real idea and you
just have a traditional driver's license, then what you're going
to have to do is carry a US passport with
you if you want to fly on an airplane after March,
after May seventh, or you're going to have to take
a passport if you want to go to a federal
office building. Now, unlike one of our last callers last hour,
Ellen from Marshfield, she has jury duty in Brockton that's
(01:21):
a state court, so she's fine, you should bring a
piece of identification with you, assuming you want to do
jury duty. But that's another story for another time. So
I'm going to continue on here. If we get another
hour out of the conversation, great, If not, we'll move on.
So if you've been at the registry recently and had
a good, batter and ugly experience, let us know. I
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had an experience. This has been at least four years
ago when I get my real idea. What happened was
we had nine to eleven. We realized we had a
tighten up security at the airports. TSA took over the
airline checkpoints, as you know, and you have to really
have identification even to get through the checkpoints. But they
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also now want to make it a little bit more
difficult and make it a little more uniform across the country,
which is fine with me. Whatever security they wanted with pose,
I'm okay with it, because with them, when I'm at
thirty thousand feet on an airplane, I want to make
sure there's no nut job on the plane's going to
do something really stupid like try to light his shoe
or blow up his shoe on the plane as we
(02:26):
had with Remember Richard Reid, the guy here in Massachusetts
actually who was trying to light his shoe because it
had I guess he had TNT in the shoe or
something or some sort of explosive device. So we want security,
and in order to have security, we got to give
up a little bit of liberty. I get that. I
get that. And at the same time, this is a
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deadline which has been delayed several times, at least once
or twice because of COVID, and now this deadline is
for real. So let's get back to the call, see
what people have to say. I'm hoping that Joe in Boston,
who we tried to get on last hour is at
the phone right now. Hey, Joe, we're going to get
you to the head of the line. Here, go right ahead.
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You're on night side.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Hi, can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I could hear you? Find Joe? Where were you before?
I think my producer said you had walked away from
the phone. Not a good idea. Go ahead, Joe. What's
been your experience with the real ID.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Well, I haven't had to do it recently, but a
few years ago I had to get a real ID.
I wanted to get one, and just so you know,
it only was good for four years, not five. That's
one thing.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Well, well it might have been the cycle of my
real idea that I'm looking at right now. It was
issued to me on June second, twenty twenty three, and
it expires in July of twenty twenty eight, so it's
actually good for a little more than five years. So
it could have been that your license was only a
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year old when you got it, and maybe they said, well,
we can only give you the balance of your current license.
I think it depends upon we're in the license cycle.
You you applied to get the real real idea.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Well, it had expired, but it was less than two
years expired, so that's why I could upgrade it and
get a new one.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
And that might so you were you were driving on
an expired license, expired license for two years, and no
one grabbed You're good for you, but that you were
lucky Joe.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
No, no, no, I wasn't. I wasn't driving. Oh okay,
I didn't have a car during then, Okay, okay I didn't. Yeah,
well why you only got four years?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You know, I don't know, but I'm sure there's some
registry rule of regulation that they applied. I'm sure that
they weren't trying to cheat you, but.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Oh no, I'm not. I'm not worried about that. By
the way. The guy from New Hampshire, he only mentioned
the couple forms that he has summit, and that told
me that he probably got a regular idea on a
real one if.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, but I think that was Bernie from New Hampshire.
And Bernie said that his wife is like somebody who
is somebody who really puts a folder together and gives
him everything that he needs. And so he almost sounds
like his wife takes care of that. He was making
the point that she put in the license and put
in whatever else you know, his his SO security card
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or whatever. So I'm sure that he got a real ID.
He's a pretty sharp guy. By the way.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Well, well, the guy who said he said not federal ID,
I thought he was New Hampshire. He was the one
who only mentioned a couple of documents, and it sounded
like if it says not a federal ID, he must
have gotten a real one. And he said it would
have been good enough for him because he didn't need
a real one.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, I'm not sure if that I know it wasn't Bernie,
that might have been Abraham from Newby put I my calls.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah yeah, okay, well the main, the main, the main
reason I called. The main reason I called was that
I was going to try and renew a license at
some point, and if I didn't have to get an appointment,
it could just walk in to be good. However, both
TV and radio, including WBS, have mentioned walking appointments, and
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my I talked to a person on the phone and
at the registry, and she said that if you don't
need to fly before after May seventh, then they don't
give you a walk in. If you're going to need
to fly, then the walk in is available, but otherwise
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need to make an appointment.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And what I heard today, and again there's always a
lot of confusion here, but what I heard today was that.
But what my producer told me was that they had
decided that because a lot of people had difficulty getting appointments,
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as some friends of mine told me they the only
appointment they could get was in Nantucket, that the registry
late today decided that they would accept people you could
walk in. So I'll try to check that in the break.
If you're correct. That would make sense what you're saying
that if they said, gee, you know, I got to
take a plane on May eighth, can I get my
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real ID, they would take that person and give them
a priority over somebody who had said, Gee, I don't
have to fly in the next year, but I'd like
to get my real ID. So I'll see if there
was a statement that the Registry clarified that today. But
I'll have that fra on the other side of that.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I was talking to the Registry person and she said
that that was the case, and I assumed that if
you needed a real idea to get into some federal building,
that would give you a chance for a walk in also,
but we didn't discuss that.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, what I've got here this is a story from
Channel five, So let me read it to you. If
you still have not gotten a real ID, good news.
The Massachusetts Registery of Motor Vehicles is offering walking appointments
for procrastinators at all branches. And then it goes on
to say, as of May seventh, twenty twenty five, every
air traveler eighteen years of age or older will need
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a real ID to come a real ID compliant driver's
license or Identification card, another Transportation Security Administration acceptable form
of identification for domestic air travel and to enter certain
federal facilities. The new ID meets federal standard and is
characterized by a gold star in the upper right hand
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corner of the of the license. If you still have
an old ID and this is not going to let
me roll up here, Oh this is frustrating. I wish
I had a produce a sitting here with me, but
that's okay. Here we go. This is from another station,
the registery motor vehicles to see more and more people
(09:08):
trying to get a real ID or identification card. I've
head of next announced Tuesday yesterday, and it's now accepting
walking appointments for people who need the real ID for
imminent travel plans. So you're right, You're right, Joe. You
gotta have a RE you gotta have an imminent travel plan.
Good correction, Joe, I thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Okay, thanks Joe, have a good one.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
All right. We'll keep rolling here. And the only line
open we got full lines is six one seven, and
full lines always music to my eyes. We'll be back
on night Side right after this.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WZ Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Okay, back to the phones, you go. I'm gonna go
to Scott in Quincy. Scott, welcome next on Nightside. How
are you sure?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
And Yan not a great show you And I was
fortunate enough that when I got my real idea a
couple of years ago at the Triple A office in Quincy,
and uh, it was it was easy for me. I
had my passport, my driver's license, my Ham radio license,
my Massachusetts firearms license, and just about every bill uh
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and piece of identifying literature I could bring with me.
And it was like a slam dunk for me.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah. You know. The person last hour who raised the
concern was he said that he had a post office
box because he wanted to have you know, the security
and privacy and had and he said that post office
boxes were not addresses were not helpful. But sounds to
me like you had everything you needed in more. I'm
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not surprised Scott that, because you're a pretty thorough guy
from my experience.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Now here's the interesting question is there are going to
be a bunch of people that will not be able
to get a real I D because they have driver's licenses.
But they may have been issued those drivers licenses and
they may not be really who they say they are.
Isn't the real ID program away for the for the
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FEDS to sweep up people who who who aren't who
they say they are or I don't think.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
When it came into effect that was its intention, but
it certainly might make it a little easier. I think, Look,
the FEDS are pretty active right now, as I think
we've seen. There was an arrest on in New Bedford yesterday.
You have this guy down in Maryland who was flown
down to the Seacott prison in El Salvador. I don't
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think he's coming back anytime soon. And yeah, there's there's
this could be. This wasn't anticipated obviously when Joe Biden
was president, no one was going around checking people's IDs. Uh,
but if you can, if you have, you know, if
you're here illegally, you shouldn't have a SOB security number,
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If you're here illegally, you shouldn't have a birth certificate
saying you were born here. So those are the fundamental
identification items that people need to get a real idea.
So this might be one way to separate the wheat
from the chaff. Yeah, I get your point.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Absolutely. Well, it's going to be interesting to see what
Massachusetts does that if some people get caught up in
that dragnet. And and well.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I would assume that that if that if all of
a sudden, someone comes up to you or me and
we have a real ID and they say, okay, you
know you're you know you're you're so and so, and
you say, no, I'm not so and so. I'm Scott
from Quinsy or I'm Dan from Nightside. Uh, and you
can quickly say, I want to show you my license
with my real ID.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I think that's right.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
That would be something a piece of identification that would
be on question show that we have proven to at
least the registered motor vehicles that we are US citizens
and we were born here and we have a SO
security number. So there is that ancillary benefit, if you will,
of the program for US citizens.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Well, I bet there are some people shaking in their
boots at the thought of they're going to have either
try and get this and hope for the best, or
they or they're not going to get it because they
know they couldn't couldn't meet the standard.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, they probably would would not try to get it
unless they could get some phony documents, but that becomes
a little bit more difficult here. So that's a benefit
that I had not thought of. Scott, great call, always thoughtful,
Thank you as always, Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yeah, good night, jam.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Thanks belt, talk to you soon. I'm going to keep
rolling here, picking up the pace just a little bit,
going to go to Tony's and native Hey, Tony, welcome
back next on night Saga right ahead, Tony.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Hi, Good evening, Dan. I hope you will dult me
for a few moments. The way my brain works and
connect things connect. I'm driving to the airport as we speak,
and we were talking about the real ID. You mentioned
the access to federal buildings. Well, I happened to be
going through my grandchildren in Oklahoma, so I'll be flying
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into Oklahoma City. And I just wanted to remind you
all listeners that I know up here we were celebrating
the battle Alexicon and Conkent on Saturday, but Saturday is
also the thirtieth anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
And that is correct that you're very that was April.
That was April nineteenth. You're in nineteen ninety five. I
remember exactly where I was with my family. I was
here in Massachusetts. But that was a horrifying day.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Yeah, I just want everybody to remember one hundred.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Actually, can you hold hold it fors for one second, Tony,
if you know mine, I'm mistaken. I remember I was
when the when there was that shootout with the UH
at the ranch somewhere in Texas that that ended up
engulfed in flames. But we were in Disney. We were
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in Disney World. What was the name of the place
it was. There was a guy David sebody.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Who was Yeah, it was the Branch Davidians.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
And Branch Davidians, Yes, And what was the guy's name
that was the leader of the group, David Koresh.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
He adopted that name as I guess, I guess the
Branch Davidians before the Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
And and my understanding is that the Oklahoma City bombing,
which did occur in April nineteenth, nineteen ninety five, was
in the mind of Timothy McVeigh in retaliation for what
happened at that conflagration with the camp with the the Davidians.
But when that happened, we were on vacation in Disney
(16:05):
World and we had just come back, you know, go
to the morning at Disney World. We came back to
the to the little motel and I turned on the
TV and all of a sudden, it was like a
news conference. And it took me about ten seconds to realize.
I didn't know what had happened, but I said, something
really bad had happened. And indeed it was the bombing
(16:25):
of the federal building, the Mara Building in Oklahoma City.
And several years later, several years ago, I visited that
site with a friend of mine who was being inducted
into the Oklahoma Sports Hall of Fame, and I was
his presenter and his wife and we visited and that
was a very eerie place. Have you ever been there?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Yes, I have.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Well with their last last summer. Yeah, I'm staying away
from it this Saturday quite busy.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Good. Well, good for you. Thank you for reminding us,
Tony uh and I hope you have a great weekend.
You'll you're going to celebrate Easter, you said with your grandchildren.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Yes, yes, my my new Jersey raised. The daughter has
adopted in Oklahoma as her state, and she.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Loved It's a great state.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
That's all right, It's okay.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
There's some great restaurants in Oklahoma.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
What good steak, I'll.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Tell you that exactly, exactly, Thank you, Dan.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
I won't take up any more.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Of your time.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Just prayer well.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Absolutely, And and they were innocent children killed in that bombing.
I think it was one hundred and sixty five souls
who lost their lives. And McVay was eventually, rightfully so executed.
He told his Lloyd to drop all appeals. He wanted
to be executed. He was a weird dude.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
He thought he was going to be exactly do you
want to talk about? Is that that Wago book that.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I just read.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
There's a picture of mc bay down there old vigil watch.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Okay, So so that even more solidifies the the connection.
And then one of a couple of his co conspirators.
I think they're still serving life in prison at the
supermacs out there in Colorado.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Yeah, that's right, Tony.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Thank you so much. Have you called me before?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
I have once in a while with some stocky comments.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
That's okay. You can call him and make pleasant comments
or snarky comments. You're a good caller. You you recalled
with with I think importance. The the incident that that
horrified the nation. I mean it, it just seems that
every five or ten years something comes along which is
so horrific. Tony. Thank you for your time, and thank
(19:03):
you for your call. And have a great Easter weekend
with your family.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Yes, have a wonderful weekend too. Take care, Thank.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
You, Tony. Good night. All right, good night, take quick break.
Here's the news. At the bottom of the hour, we
will we will finish this out. At eleven o'clock. We
will change and talk about the the Battle of the Titans,
if you will, Donald Trump, President, Donald Trump versus Harvard University,
and we'll try to explain that and get your opinions
on it during the eleven o'clock hour. Uh, if there's
(19:32):
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Speaker 1 (19:42):
Back after this, it's Night Side with Dan Ray, Boston's
news Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Okay, so we're talking about the real life, the real
ID deadline, which exists. It's May seventh across the country.
We're focusing on Massachusetts. Uh. The registery motor vehicle offices
in Massachusetts, we call it. The R and V registering
motor vehicles here uh and the Triple A offices which
(20:12):
take up really provide a very great service to augment
the Registry of motor vehicles. Are overwhelmed. Let me go
to George and Bridgewater. George, next on nightside.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
Welcome back, Hey Dan, how you doing. I'm going to
be your part time producers tonight. You sure you were
going to check you will? You were going to check
out that gentleman's uh I D at the at the
at the party you got coming up? So I checked
(20:45):
my license and I also have not for real ID.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
So I don't use Google that much.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
I use uh, you know, on my laptop co pilot
AI And I say what why real I D says
not for Federal ID, and it simply says, uh it
it does not meet the security standards set by the
real ID Act.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Okay, now hold on for let me ask you a question.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Yeah, go ahead, George.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
You're a You are a good listener and a good caller.
So you have a Massachusetts driver's license. In the right
hand upper right hand corner of the driver's license, is
there a gold circle or a yellow circle with a
white star in it?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
No, no, sir, I uh and I just found out
tonight that I thought I had a real ID. Uh
and I and I don't I have that, uh that
saying on my license, so well not not the federal
I d.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
No, right, So well, thank you for doing that, because
I was a little confused. But I'm looking at my
license right now, and I guarantee you, uh, I have
in my upper right hand corner it's a gold circle.
It's very small. I mean, it's not tiny, but it's
not it doesn't blow your way, and it's on your license.
I assume you have the silhouette of the of the
(22:10):
Golden Dome at the State House, right Oh yeah, okay,
so it's to the right of that as you look
at your license, and inside the yellow circle is a
white star, five pointed star, typical you know star that
would look like on an American flag star. So that
proves to me that I do have the real ID.
(22:31):
And if it says on your license not for federal use,
I should have asked Tim from Woburn if he had
that orange that gold circle again, either gold or yellow
with a white right, so you can't have them both.
They got that and on my license you don't have that,
(22:52):
and you have it. What is the language on yours?
It says not for federal purposes? Is that when it
says that you quoted.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Ext but you know, you know then I want to know.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Okay, I know.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
I walked up to the window. I said I don't
want a real ID because I had my passport and
I had a couple letters mailed to me or whatever.
And she didn't want to talk too much, and she
just took my picture and on my way. I didn't
know that I didn't have a real ID. But these
are the reasons why that AI would gave me Why
(23:26):
you didn't get a real ID. You did not apply
for real ID. Okay, that's a no brainer. Missing requirement documents.
You've talked about that tonight, name mismatch issues, state specific
policies that have to be complicated with this state.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Oh, it's very.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Choice.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
Anyway. Anyway, so I did my homework for you using
AI Windows AI Copilot, And you know that's when you
walk up there, if you're not pushing this lady didn't
want to talk to me. She just took all my
paperwork and took my picture.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
On off off I went.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Anyway, Well, The other thing too, is the other thing too, George,
is that did she hand you a license or did
she hand you sort of a temporary license and then
you got the the actual you know, license license a
couple of weeks in the mail.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
Yeah, it was temporary.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Okay. So what happens is you walked out of there,
you figured you were all set. She dropped the ball.
She should have said to you, George, there's one piece
of identification that is missing here that you need or
whatever the whatever the problem was. She just took your
application rejected. It never took the time of the courtesy
(24:45):
to tell you, and and you walked out of there.
Would be like if you if if you went to
a store and you you went to the meat counter
and you ordered liam chops and and the guy decided
to put hamburg in there, misheard you, and you handed
(25:06):
you know, and you went home and you didn't you
open them order Hamburger or the lampshops. This one, whoever
that person was, they failed you, and maybe they failed.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
Tim as well exactly. And then you know, I was
just thinking, in a funny way, we need to eat
on musk here in Massachusetts and camp a few of
these people. I hate going to the DMV. I mean, yeah, no, no,
it's but anyway, thanks for your show, because I just
found out tonight I don't have real ID, even though
I don't need it. I'm not going to be traveling
(25:38):
and I have a passport, so I'm cool.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
When does your license? When does your license expired? George?
If you know?
Speaker 7 (25:46):
It inspired about a year and a half ago. A
year ago, and that's when I went. I said, I
might as well get my real idea. At the same time,
you know, I had all my paperwork with me, at
least I thought I did.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
So your your license then is good? Is it good?
Your regular license is good for another two or three years?
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Yeah, yeah, three, three or four more years, yes, sir, Well.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
You probably if you wanted to, if you all of
a sudden decided you want to, you know, fly and
and well if you could when after May seventh, when
the rush sort of slows down, go back there and
explain what happened and see if they'll they'll adjust it
for you.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Oh they will.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
And it went on to the last paragraph in this
AI that I did for you. If you need a
real ID, you can check with your state DMV and uh,
see what documents you need and you're on your way.
You know it's perfect.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
You are. You've been a good co producer tonight of
the program. Thanks George. Your check will be the check
will be in the mail, Thanks George. All right, thanks buddy,
don't you soon? Quick break? Right back on Night's Side.
We'll be back with at least three more callers. We
got one line at six one, seven thirty, one line
(27:05):
at six one, seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. We
will change topics at at eleven right after eleven o'clock news,
we will talk about President Trump versus Harvard University.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Back we go. Let me see, we're gonna go to
quickly Chuck and Georgia Chuck next on nights.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
I go right ahead, Hi, Dan, how are you good?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Chuck? You waited a long time here. I'm a little
bit getting tight on time. I got four more calls
once you got going on Georgia.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
License when I first moved to Georgia from Massachusetts almost
nine years ago, and mine has a white star surrounded
by black.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Okay, that's gonna give me different states, I think, different
states at different.
Speaker 8 (27:54):
Calico Boats, and here they give you a license for
eight years. It's about thirty dollars I think, and.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
A little more expensive up here.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
Yeah. Yeah, the DMV up there is a cash cow.
But here at seventy five, you have to go into
the DMV and take an eye test. Yep, sure, and
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I think that's the same. I'm not sure if it's
seventy five or eighty, but I think that's something that
people have to do on a more regular basis. But
I assume it's an eye test. If you have glasses
or contact lenses, it's an eye test that you know
with correction.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
Well, the strange thing is they give you a license
for another eight years.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I thure that they figure if it's seventy five, your
eyes just tou a reasonably good, they'll probably be good
down the line. I guess. I don't know.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
I would have thought they would have given you one
for two or three or four.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
But nah, I didn't have to charge you more money.
As is the registery down there a little more friendly
than in Massachusetts or what's the deal?
Speaker 8 (29:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, even in uh there's two around here.
One they're about twenty miles apart. But they're good people.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Okay, let's do Let's let one more question for the
Georgia Chamber of Commerce as a Yankee going down there. Okay,
will you wally welcomed or were you tolerated?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Now?
Speaker 8 (29:33):
They think that sometimes you bring a more democratic view
than a Republican view, you know, I see they don't.
They don't like that too much.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
But you just wait, you dissuaded that that with your
mega hat or something. I'm sure.
Speaker 8 (29:50):
Yeah, even if.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
There's one that you go ahead.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
If there's one thing that they give you the side
I about is you know whether or not archer Republican
or Democrat?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Well, it used to be the democratic South. Was the
South was the democratic stronghold. That has all changed, hasn't it.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (30:15):
Here where I live, it's mostly Republican. When you get
out two hundred and some miles west around Atlanta, it's
all Democrat. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, Well, it's good to have some diversity in every state.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
Well, all right, I'll let you go, than John.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Great to hear your voice call more often. Will. I
always enjoy talking to you, But I got three behind you,
so I got to take care of them as well. Okay, buddy, No, worries.
Thanks Happy Eastern, good you too. All right, good night
We go next to Mark in New Hampshire. Mark next
on Nightside.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
Yeah I did.
Speaker 9 (30:49):
One of your previous callers actually kind of stole some
of my thunder as far as what's going on with
this real id because it sounds like a couple of
your previous listeners they have a tradition license, they don't
have the real idea and I don't think they know it.
And I think going forward there's going to be some
unhappy folks when they go to Logan to fly and
think they're all set, I just got my license, you know,
they'll say six months ago and they're told, no, this
(31:12):
isn't a really d what But I think you're right.
I think it looks like the upright end corner has
to have the star in the Hampshire. It's a silhouette
of the old man in the mountain, but it's got
that star. I mean, I think that's type of public
service to people saying, hey, do you really have a
real idea? This is how you have a check by
looking in the upright hand corner. If you don't you
know a real idea? If it says not a federal ID.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
What is the color star on your license? You have
a New Hampshire license. Mine is it's sort of yellow
or gold with a white star in the middle of that.
Speaker 9 (31:40):
In the Hampshire, it's like I said, the silhouette of
the old Man of the Mountain with the gold and
then it's got that white five pointed star in the
upright end corner. That's the real ID for sure. And
it's got a hologram picture of me about a third
of the way over, which I didn't realize till tonight.
Was playing with it under the light, and it's got
two other pictures on the front of the license.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
But yeah, you know, I don't have enough light of that.
But I know mine is fine. And I hope that
some of our people tonight, they like George from Bridgewater,
he told the story that you're referring to. He went
up there expecting that he was going to get the
right ID, uh, and no one the woman didn't talk
(32:20):
to him behind the counter, and he walked out, and
he's realizing tonight that he doesn't have a real ID.
Speaker 9 (32:27):
And that's I think be a lot of other people.
I went to New Hampshire and the third twenty seventh
of March. I forget, I'll do it in a few days,
and they said, oh, our next appointments sometime in April.
It was on my birthday. I said, well, I don't
want to be here on my birthday. I want to
do something with my wife. So she goes, well, you
can take a chance and come and walk in, but
it might be thirty minutes to two hours. I said,
I'll take a chance, so I went the next day.
I got there about eight fifteen and they opened at
(32:48):
eight and I was in and out in fifty five minutes.
But I'm so glad I waited because it was all
The woman at the counter could have been more pleasant.
And a friend said, well she smiling. I said she
was smiling, and I said to her, it's nice to me.
I'll tell him. I said, I'm really glad I was in.
You're lying because you're a very pleasant person to deal with.
She says, oh, thank you. But it was very smooth.
Whereas while I'm waiting, some lady trying to get a
(33:10):
real ID, the gentleman saying, hey, this isn't a Social
security and we don't have a so security card. This
isn't gonna fly. Oh well what about this. Nope, no,
I have a utility bill. Goes, well, that's just building address.
It doesn't say service address, so this doesn't count either.
So she didn't get her real idea that day.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
That was the guy who was just giving her hard time.
And I'm you know, it's like he probably you give
some of these people a little bit of authority and
you know they're going to use it. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (33:35):
I totally agree. It's like and the poor woman, I mean,
it's it's pretty stressful and you think you've got all
those information that's you don't have you need.
Speaker 8 (33:43):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I brought my BROO certificate. I brought my uh my passport,
my driver my current driver's license. But they said, well,
we need to have two bills to show you live there,
and I had brought on one, so I had to
I had like an electric bill. I had to go
and get a gas bill.
Speaker 9 (34:00):
So yeah, and I don't mean the laugh. That's the
type of thing like I had a cable bill and
a utility electric bill, which was perfectly fine. And she goes, no,
you're all set. You got a passport, yeah, and you're
good to go. Nice because I had it it's nice.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
To know that New Hampshire does have some jerks as
well as nice people, because normally everybody in New Hamp's
just nice.
Speaker 9 (34:21):
Right. He got what worked out right, got in the
mail today. It took from the twenty seventh of March
till today. They say within forty five days. It was
on three weeks or whatever it's been in I'm holding
my hand up. So it came plenty of time and
it worked out very well. Experienced.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
So long. I love New Hampshire. Man, you have the
greatest governor. Uh yeah, hopefully AOT does a good job too.
I got two more. I got to get to March,
so I'm gonna let you run. Thanks man, talk.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Soon, all right, have a good night, great one.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Good night, Mary and jempshould Mary got room for you
in one more.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Go ahead and Mary, Okay, I'm gonna make it quick.
I went to get last year, I went to get
my license renoved, and I hope to get the real ID.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
I bought everything with me and the woman looked at
it and she said, you kind of get the real idea.
I said, why not? She said, because your Social Security
card is laminated.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah, you ridiculous. Yeah, yes I have because in the
instructions and I read it last hour, it's it said
that on your Social Security card and laminated documents will
not be accepted. Now, first of all, when you have
a SOB security card, most people are going to laminate
it to make sure that it stays in decent shape.
How ridiculous is that, you know? I mean, just.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Okay, I'm gonna let you go listen, have a happy
stuff you toobe Mary.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
And by the way, there are other options. Do you
have a passport, go back with your passport, okay, or
your birth certificate and that will that will do in
lieu of a Social Scurity card. And in terms of
the Social Security number, if you bring a copy of
your tax bill, you know, like your federal tax bill
that has your SOB Security number, that will do it
(35:59):
in lieu of the SOLDI you do not have to unliminate.
You Also, by the way, can order through the sold
Security office. Tell him you lost your card and they'll
send you a replacement card. I have a replacement card
which is you know, looks like that. Well it is
brand News. So that's another way you can do it.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Okay, just the license that I have does say not
to federal I D yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Well that you get that. You gotta have that in
the upper right hand corner. It's a circle that's for
us here in Massachusetts, yellow gold and mark for Mahampshire.
Said the same thing. Thank you, Mary.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
I appreciated plain find it. So that was all right, Dan,
have a hairy, nice easter.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
You too, Happy easter. Good night. Let me go to Jim.
Jim you were next on nights that you're gonna wrap
the hour for us.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Go ahead, Jim Man, have a hairy easter.
Speaker 10 (36:44):
Here are you.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I'm doing great. Hope you have a good one out
there as well. So have you got your your real
ID yet?
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Dan?
Speaker 10 (36:53):
I'm a big, big truck driver, so I've had it
for three years. About three years. I got it like
like I think all responsible people about six months before
the deadline, because who wants to wait till the deadline
to get pulled over? And you can't, you know, and
then your your load is i'll call it total. So
I got it. Then they've extended it. Then they extended
(37:16):
it again. And since they extended it, I got additional
certifications or whatever you want to call them. So then
I had to have my license reissued. Well, in this state,
every certification is a sixty dollars, so my license cost
me one hundred and eighty bucks. So it's cost me
(37:36):
a lot of money because of the fact I've had
to pay quite a bit extra because of the fact that.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
They Well, the good news is you're up to date.
And guess what that is a part of your living.
So hopefully it's a tax deduction.
Speaker 10 (37:52):
I want all these bozos without the real id off
the road gone long, and then.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
All the boos up the road, there'd be no people
on the road.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Jim, come on, well, anybody who doesn't the thing.
Speaker 10 (38:06):
Is, I mean, people are gonna find out you don't
need it.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
You need it.
Speaker 10 (38:10):
You need it because if they can't make a positive
ID on you. The reason why they're doing this is
because there could be like fifty three Ricardo Valdez right right,
and so you get pulled, you get pulled over. There's
a guy named Ricardo Valdez with fifty three warrants out
for their arrest, and they can't you know, and they
(38:32):
can't be sure that it's you. You're not here.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
You called really late. I'm flat out of time. We'll
have more time, next time we chat. Thank you, my friend,
gotta go. Here comes the eleven. We're gonna talk about
Donald Trump versus Harvard University on the other side.
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