August 6, 2025 • 36 mins
In her ongoing efforts to audit the state legislature, an effort State Auditor Diana DiZoglio has been at for quite a while, DiZoglio has now hired an outside law firm to bring the challenge to court. Last Fall, voters approved a measure, giving DiZoglio the authority to audit the MA House and Senate. However, state lawmakers have pushed back against the audit efforts saying an audit could violate the constitutional separation of powers between the branches.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A Night's Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBZ Costin's new radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, I've decided that I want to continue on this story.
The last hour we had a really interesting conversation, a
passionate argument presented by the State Order of the common
of Massachusetts. Here is the simple question, if you are
a resident of Massachusetts, if you're a voter in Massachusetts,
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even better, should the state Legislature, the State Senate, and
the State House of Representatives be audited by the State
Auditor of Massachusetts. Think about it. The legislature makes laws,
rights laws. That's their purpose. They're the legislature, the state auditor.
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The name is part of the title, Diana Desaglio Rhan.
Pretty much on the campaign of a ballot petition, an
initiative petition, So this was in Massachusetts. It's basically voters
get together and they get certain requisite numbers of signatures.
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It's an onerous process to get an issue in front
of the voters on election day. This was last November.
So a vote in favor said yes, the State Order
has the authority to audit the legislature, and it became
a law here in Massachusetts. A no vote would make
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no change in the law relative to the state auditors authority. Okay,
the vote, it was seventy two percent in favor of
an audit of the state legislature. But here in Massachusetts
we have an overwhelmingly democratic state legislature. And by the way,
this initiative by the state Auditor is being pushed by
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the elected state Auditor, who also happens to be a Democrat.
So this is not a Republican Democrat issue. It is
really a question of power versus a responsibility, and power corrupts,
and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I'll quote Lord Acton who
was quoted by Judge Mark Wolfe, and that's the situation
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we have here. So the Auditor, Diana does Augly, who
just spent forty minutes with us explaining that not only
is the legislature refusing to comply with the audit, they
want to have an outside agency that they would choose.
That's like when the IRS wants to audit you or
the Department of Revenue, what you should say is, well,
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I'm going to find my own CPA who will conduct
the audit and we'll let you know what's going on.
I don't think that would work. I don't think it
would work very well. You'd pretty soon be wearing some
custom made jewelry called handcuffs. But we'll put that aside.
So the state legislature basically is defying not only the
state Auditor, but the vote of the people. Seventy two percent.
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This was not like fifty one forty nine. This is
seventy two percent twenty eight. So the state auditor appealed
to the attorney general. There are six people in Massachusetts
who are elected statewide to what's called a constitutional office.
The governor, the Lieutenant governor, the state Treasurer, the state Order,
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the Attorney General, and the Secretary of State. This is
beyond belief. This should be a sixty minutes expose. If
Mike Wallace was still working for sixty minutes, I could
write it for Mike Wallace. I could hear his voices
voices in my head right now. So the state, the
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attorney General, supposedly the attorney for the people, representative of
the people, the people's lawyer in this case, doesn't want
to be the people's lawyer, wants no part of the case.
And in addition, in addition, is now telling the state
auditor that even if private funds private funds will support
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a law firm to take this case to the state
Supreme Court. The state Attorney General says she will be
opposed to it. She will prevent the state auditor from
going outside. So my suggestion, and I think it's a
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pretty good one, if I do say so myself, is
that you can have a class action stude in Massachusetts.
And I believe in all it takes is about ten
people who were qualified as members of the group the
class and they would have to be citizens who voted
in the election last fall and who would verify or
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assert that they voted in favor of this initiative petition.
I don't see how they can be denied standing irrespect
of whatever Andrea Campbell might like to enforce. This is
serious business we're talking about here, folks. So what I'd
love to have as many of you as possible in
the next half an hour, let up these phone lines.
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Tell me that you might be willing to attach your
name to an initiative, to a class action lawsuit which
would go into court to basically have the judiciary instruct
the legislature to submit to a full and proper audit
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as required by the vote of the people. Of Massachusetts.
It's not that complicated. It is just not that complicated.
I'm going to open up phone line six one seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten
thirty if you want to voice your support for the
legislature and tell me why they shouldn't be audited, feel free.
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As I said before, the Speaker of the House and
the Senate President has a standing invitation to join me
any night day of their choosing to defend this indefensible
position by the legislature. And again, it not leads the
indefensible position politically, but it is also an indefensible position legally.
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Seventy two percent of the voters of Massachusetts have approved
this law, in my opinion. In my opinion, this law
has to be has it's been enacted, but it has
to be accepted by the legislature. And if you have
a member of the legislature in your family, or if
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you know a member of the legislature, or if you
just want to call your state representative or your state senator,
please do so because frankly, if you took the time
to vote and you voted for this, or even if
you didn't vote for it, the legislature. If they don't
recognize the law and comply with the law, why should
you seriously think about it? I mean, I'm not suggesting
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anarchy here, but I mean, you know, when you park illegally,
you get a ticket. When you speed, you get a ticket.
When you don't pay your taxes, you're audited. When you
fire your taxes improperly, you're audited. Okay, So if you
would like to be willing to leave your name with
Rob and a daytime phone number, when I talk to
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the lawyers sometime in the next day or two, I'll
report back to you. You know, I'm very good at
reporting back. I don't I don't start things that I
don't finish. Ask Joe Solvadi about that. Ask Lynda LaRouche
about that. Ask a lot of people who have done
stories for and against Laruse was the crazed perennial candidate
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who glories led to his incarceration, his conviction, and his indictment,
conviction and incarceration for nine years. But that's a story
for another time. I follow through, essentially, is what I'm saying. Okay,
whether you like me or not, I follow through. I
want to follow through on this we'll take phone calls,
but quick break six one seven. The only line's open
right now, six one, seven, nine, three, one ten thirty.
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Don't think of that as a secondary phone line to
night Side. That is just as good. The six one seven, two, five,
four ten thirty is full up. Six one seven, nine
three one ten thirty. Let's light it up, have a long.
If you disagree with me, feel free. I'll be happy
to entertain that conversation. Say say the speaker, I'm sure
he won't come on. He doesn't have the guts the
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guile to come on. Uh, Nor does Karen spilkem Uh.
They don't have to come on because they are supported
by their their colleagues, the solons up at the State House.
Back on Nightside right after this, let's light it up.
We will tonight get to the Sydney Sweeney story, which
to me is just incredible. How this thing is blown up. Uh,
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And the people who are calling it names are just
they're over the top, they've lost their minds. We'll be
back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Roub tells me he's got a lot of people who
have volunteered to participate if necessary as a member of
a class action lawsuit. I want you to I want
to hear you voices. This is a talk show. Okay,
you know how I feel. I want to know how
you feel, and if any of you disagree, let's hear it.
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Six seven two thirty. This affects all of you in Massachusetts.
And I want to thank Nancy for Rhode Island. She
was outraged down in Rhode Island. Uh, let your friends,
let your relatives know here that this is what happens
when you have government that is auto that is truly autocratic,
that is truly a one party government. That's what that's
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what an autocracy truly is. And we have that here
in Massachusetts. I love the fact that the Texas legislators
are coming to Massachusetts state where we don't need to
have what we do have jerry mandering. Trust me, I'm
jerry mandering. When the Democrats needed to preserve certain seats,
they jerry manned those districts. But they're coming to Massachusetts.
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They created jerry mandarin in Massachusetts. That's the word jerry
mandering comes from Governor Jerry G.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
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Speaker 2 (10:42):
Gary G.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
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Speaker 5 (10:43):
R Y.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Man. The hypocrisy is breathtaking. I can't keep up with it.
Tony is in Gardner the chair City. Tony, thank you
for calling and I appreciate it. Go right ahead, Server.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Hey Dan, you know, I was wondering if there's another
way to get the information for the settlement agreements to
the public records law.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
No, no, no, no. These are records that are hidden.
That's why they need an on it. If you could
get them through the public records law, you wouldn't need
an on it.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Well, you know, I'm looking at the Secretary of State's
website and he says that the public records Law will
not operate to allow for the withholding of settle agreements
as a whole. However, portions may be reacted.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
So you're so deep in the weeds, Tony. You were
doing exactly what they want. They would love you. That's
like arguing how many angels fit on the head of
a pin. I think it's five million angels. How many
angels do you think fit on the head of a pin?
What's your best guess? Serious?
Speaker 6 (11:52):
It might be one more account you can add to
the complaint. You never know, you know a way to
get those settlement agreements out there.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Don't can, no, No, the Audit would get them out there,
and the Audit would protect the privacy of individuals. Okay,
because what you have the reality up there is that
for a long time and it's still maybe going on today,
that you know, some of the male members of the
Great in General Court would hit on some of the
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female interns. Okay, yeah, you know, and and and then
there would be some settlements. But there are other abuses
we're talking about. Look at the cab company in Truro
that had a six million dollar contract to give illegal immigrants,
people who are here illegally, cab rights so they can
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get to the store and get their doctor's appointments. Do
you know that that cab company we found out when
you call a cab, what do you think is on
the meter when the cab pulls up in front of
your house? Tony, you want to give me.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
A guess, you know, I don't know. I would say maybe,
I don't know, maybe nothing, right, yes.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Of course nothing, that's the answer. You you call the
cab company and you say, Tony lives at one Main
Street and Gardener, I'd like a cab at eleven o'clock
because I have to take a ride to a Fitzburg
and my car is broken down. You show up and
when you get in the car, they throw the meter
down at truro. They're coming to pick up the illegal
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immigrant in some cases, to give them a ride of
like a couple one hundred yards. Okay, forty dollars. The
meter starts at forty dollars. That was a no bid
contract given out by the Healy administration with you know,
with the the you know, to the immigration crisis. So no, Tony,
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this is one. I don't think that you're willing to
give your name to this, but I'm glad you called.
But yeah we did. Oh god, you did. Okay, that's great. Well,
I appreciate by the way you are. Okay, well, Tony,
you know as well as I do that the best case,
either a civil case or a criminal case, is where
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the facts are clear, the facts are clean, You put
the case in, you sit down. But when the other
side gets up, they're going to try to, you know,
muddy the waters as much as they can. Don't muddy
our own waters.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
They will.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
But it works both ways because you can use the
public records laws as a sign of the intent of
what the war is that they can't deny it's unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
The law is on the books, Tony. It was voted
seventy two percent. It is now a law on the books,
a law by initiative petition. It is on the books.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
It's like, oh, if we don't know what the what
the what the SJC is going to come back with
and we.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Gotta first get we have to get to the SJC, Tony,
because the people's lawyer, they Ternel of Massachusetts, Andrea Campbell,
is basically throwing war box. So Disauglio can't even take
the case to the s JAC. It's all a game, Tony,
It's all a game. You're a lawyer out there, Tony.
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You sound like a decent guy. And you also sound
like you You sound like you're a young guy. How
old are you?
Speaker 6 (15:17):
If I could ask, oh, dad, i'd i'm old. I'm
sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Okay, Well, you know what, you should find some young
lawyer out there to run against, find out how the
reps voted out there. You've been around a long time, Tony.
I'm come on. We gotta we got to leave a
legacy for our kids and our grandkids, which is better
than what we have out there now. It used to
be corruption and you had, you know, speakers who were
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indicted and all of that. Uh, now it's uh, it's
it's let's hide the ball. It's hide the ball, Tony,
I gotta run. Thank you so much for lending your name.
You're very welcome. Thanks for calling my show.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
If you called before, no oh yeah, I've called a
couple of times.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Make it more off until he enjoyed the conversation. Thank
you much. Have a great one. We'll take a break.
We're coming right back on night's side. One line at
six one seven, two five four ten thirty. We're just
filled up. And one line at six one seven, nine
three one ten thirty. I love it when we have
a conversation that generates passion. Okay, I really love that.
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And Diana Dezaglio, she is a passionate reformer. And I
don't care. If you're a Democrat, you're a public. She's
a democrat. If you're a conservative, you're a liberal, you're progressive.
This is something that cries out to be to be fixed,
and it's it was fixed by the voters, and now
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the will of the voters must be observed. And it's
being frustrated by other political so called leaders out there
who at this point I can only conclude her in
the bag and we got full lines. Let's keep it going.
Everybody coming back on Nightside with Dan Ray.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I'm WBZ Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Let's get to the call is going to go to
Joe and Lynn. Joe, you were next to Nightside. Welcome Joe,
how are you tonight?
Speaker 8 (17:16):
Miss? These people should be arrested. This is why it's
hard to respect law enforcement. The attorney general we voted
to help us is doing those wrong things. What can
Diane do? Can she go above her go to the
Supreme Court? What's her next step beside class actions?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Well, if you listened last hour, I mean the attorney general,
who is supposed to represent the other statewide elective constitutional offices,
said that she would not take the case, and she
said that she would actively attempt to block and prevent
Dezaglio from using outside lawyers to represent her. So I'm
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suggesting that you take those outside lawyers and you fall
a class class action lawsuit, uh, and that that might
be a way to get the case before the States
Supreme The State Supreme Court would would rule but at
least it would give her a day in court. And
we'll have to see. And I'm willing to get involved
in it, you know, in whatever way is it is possible, right,
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that's and.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
I feel these people should be arrested. None of the
name should be redacted because they've done all kinds of things.
This is what happens.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
There's no criminal offense here at this point that we
know of now. If there if something in the audit
were to discover criminality, that's a different story. But there's
for being truculent, because that's and and uh and and
stubborn and and.
Speaker 8 (18:48):
I have a feeling there's something in the artic going
on that we don't know. That's why they look.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
You know, if you've got nothing to hide, you know,
this is you say, hey, open them up, I'm clean.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
It's a whistle seventy two percent a lot of people.
And I hope Diane gets her way. I hope she
wins this case. And they just wanted to touch base
on that number with Rob. Yeah, okay, thanks.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Okay, thank you, Joe. If you've Rob taked his name
and number. If not, we'll just keep moving up. We
won't move on here. Let me go next to Phil
in Boston. Phil, how are you? Did you leave his
name and number? Rob?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah, I gave my name as usual, But you know,
I guess for the cause, Dan, I might be at
this advent. I know I want to disadvantage as usual.
I'm when you use the lady, when you rough with
a lady, cam cam Bro whatever his name. Well, she
is the attorney general this artime is I was thinking
the same thing a couple of weeks. This woman is
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a strong woman. I'm telling you man to buck the system.
But who was this woman? Is she the attorney general?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
The attorney General of the Commonwealth of mass Masachusetts is
a woman named Andrea Campbell. She used to be a
city councilor in Boston. She was elected the attorney general
of the call o the Massachusetts and she basically is
preventing doing whatever she can to prevent the state Auditor
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from going into court to have the court determine whether
or not this law, which we voted for by a
margin of seventy two percent to twenty eight percent.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
And what was the law?
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Did you've been listening to the show? Yeah, the law
is pretty simple. The law is pretty simple, Phil, what
the law passed? Seventy two percent? It was an initiative position, okay,
And it's said a yes vote would specify that the
state Auditor, Diana Dezaglio at the state Auditor, has the
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authority to audit the legislature. That's pretty straightforw it.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
I don't know what words.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I know you did. I'm sure you did so. I
don't know how the the court would turn around and say, wow,
this law is a little vague and ambiguous.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
You know, you can't make this stuff up. You can make.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
This stuff up. That's why I'm so upset about it. Okay,
who it was?
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Who was before her?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
No, before her? I can get her name. She was
a state auditor, it doesn't matter. Was the auditor for
a long time. And Joe Denucci was a great auditor.
He was a fighter for but for about twenty years.
And but this auditor is like no other auditor than that.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
She's getting a slam left and right. She's in a
heavyweight fight here. You probably only weighsounds.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, well let's stay on topic. Phil. You're gonna leave
your name and number with Rob, so if we decided to,
all right, Phil, I appreciate that. I could tell that
Joe would not leave his name and number when they
asked him. That he didn't. He has called hey, they
called back, great, Okay, that's good, glad.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
He don't want to get involved. It's a problem. While
we were hit today, all as a stand up.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Well you and Diana does augly we have someone who
stands up for sure. Uh. And now again I can
tell you that the the the apparatus of the Democratic
Party is being very obvious. The governor's not supporting her,
the lieutenant governor supporting her state, and these are all Democrats.
Andrea came back and Campbell, the attorney general, who's supposed
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to be the people's lawyer's swing, roadblock after roadblock to.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
The average guys to fight a parking ticket.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Exactly. That's the point you you get a part, or
you even get to the point where the meter maid
is hitting here with the parking ticket and you say,
come on, I was only hit for two minutes. I
don't care. I'm running the backing And then if you
say anything, or if you mumble something under your breath,
thanks a lot. Now I heard that. I'm calling the police,
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and Phil.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Take it easiluck. That's all unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
You got it. Thanks Phil, appreciate it. Let's keep You're
going to go to Mike and Bradford. Ladies, we need
some some female participants here. We had some last hour
Mike and Bradford.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Hi Mike, Hi, Dan, how are you tonight?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
A little wound up? But but I feel really strongly
about this. This This is going absolutely against the will,
the overwhelming will of the voters.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
This is totally fostical, Dan, Yeah, totally fosticle. And and
you know, I think that you know, uh, Diane is
doing a tremendous job and really needs to con new
fighting this. When I end my call, you know, put
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me on hole so I can give my name my nob.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Absolutely, I appreciate that, I really do. And again I
just think that, you know, also, I don't know who
use state rep is out there. I don't know who
your state senator is. But if you know any of
these people, I think you got to say to them, look,
you know you you voted against the will of the people.
You know. Now if they said, you know, I voted.
I believe that there's been a couple of sort of
like test votes in the legislature, as Uglia would be
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more on top of that than I am. But for
for the for the the the sheep in the state
legislature of Massachusetts just to go along, to get along,
to maintain their subcommittee chairmanship that meets, you know, once
every six months, and they get an extra twenty grand
as a chairman of an of really an unnecessary legislative committee.
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That's the game that's being played up there, you know,
as well as I do.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Oh yeah, well, correct, correct me if I'm wrong. But
during the.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
Campaign process before the election, nobody, nobody that I remember,
went against her saying well, this is a waste of time,
or this this wouldn't be a good idea. Nobody said
anything about it. And now all of a sudden, they're
coming out of the woodwork, you know, saying, oh, we
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can't do this.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Well, what happens is she's going against the powerful, entrenched
institutional leaders, the Speaker of the House, Mariano from Brockton.
How Bobby Delio ever handed that position. I had a
great deal of respect for Bobby Leo. He was a
baseball teammate of mine in high school and a guy
of I thought real good ethics. How he turned this
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over to Mariotto is beyond me. There are some people
out there who are much smarter than Marianno. The ways
and means Chairman would be would be the person who
I think should be the speaker up there. And Karen
Spilker has been the Senate President of long time. I've
worked with her on a couple of pieces of legislation
which were good legislation. We were able to many many years ago.
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UH turned around pass a piece of legislation which reformed
life insurance law here in Massachusetts, and I'm very proud
of of the work that we did together on that.
But once they get into a position of power, the
power goes to their heads and they become you know,
little Billy Bulger wannabes.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I mean, yeah, there's no argument there.
Speaker 10 (26:30):
Yeah you got it. Hey, Mike, thank you so Much've
you hold on? Rob will take your name? Okay, well
just put Thank you much, Mike from Bradford. Six one
seven two four ten thirty six one seven nine three
one ten thirty. Both of those lines are fold. The
only one line is six one seven two five four
to ten thirty. We're coming right back on Night's side.
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Let's keep it rolling. I think I will just end
this at eleven o'clock because I do want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
The full reaction to a blue jeans commercial back on
Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
It's night Side with Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Okay, let's keep rolling here, John and Debta May. John
appreciate you calling in your next on Nightside.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
Go ahead, John, Damn, where do we start with this thing?
This is a nightmare I and I actually went on
the State Author's website. My background as account is there's
got to be something I can do to help this
cause other than just call a radio show. It's just
I can't believe how corrupt the Democrats have become, federal, state, local.
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You know, it shouldn't it be a simple question, asked
the legislator, like, hey, shouldn't we account for every tax dollar?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
But it's even the thing, John, is that it's even
simpler than that. Okay, we're passed the question. This was
on the ballot. It was an initiative petition. I mean,
the legislature would not give them a vote on it,
so the voters went out and collected an adequate number
of signatures. I think it takes two rounds to get
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it on the ballot, and it got on the ballot,
and the yes vote would specify that the state auditor
has the authority to honor the legislature. You know how
voted game set match seventy two percent? I mean, you
know when Linden, when when Nixon beat McGovern or, when
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Reagan beat Mondale, or when Johnson beat Goldwater, they got
like fifty fifty nine percent. That's a landslide. What if
that's a landslide. You know what is seventy two percent?
It's it's an avalanche.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
And something that were to bring it b real quick.
Last week, I was watching the local news in the
morning get ready for work, and it was showing that
the new designs of these rest stops. And I remember
you had a local gentleman on your show a few
weeks ago who bid on the contract and they gave
the contract yep, to some they whatever came of that.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Well, they gave it to this is the Healing Administration.
They gave it to a company from Ireland called Apple Green.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
Did you ever find out why?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Though?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (29:14):
And that's it.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
That's what I'm talking about. Corruption across the board. Jan
I wish you spent a whole night on this topic
because I want to hear the Democrats of the state
call and defend these people.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
They're not going to call and defend them, because, first
of all, they have a network of people who will
sit out there and who will just monitor what's going on.
We're in a state now where sixty four percent of
the voters are independent, and I believe that it's something like,
I don't know twenty five percent. I'm rough guessing our
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Democrats and that pretty much the legislature and their immediate
families and the teachers' union, and then the eight percent
of Republicans. I mean the Republican Uh need to get
their act together. But the public has spoken on this
issue of the auditing the legislature and the Democrats basically saying,
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screw you, we don't care what you're voted for, because
guess what, like a bunch of sheep, everybody goes to
the polls and they'll vote for this their local state
rep or the.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
First ones to say nobody's above the law except we are.
And I know people leave in the names of numbers.
Is that for the class action suit?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah? Yeah, if you want to leave your name and
number I'm what I'm hoping to do is I want
to talk to the lawyers that have stepped forward and
if if somehow, if somehow, if they have uh, you know,
Andrea Campbell is not going to do the right thing here,
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and I don't think she will, then let's try to
do a class action suit. By the way, Okay, here's
here's Sean O'Brien, the Teams Union president. Rob. I get
a sound, but I want to play. I want to
support what John is saying here. Sean is a Democrat, Okay,
but he's an intelligent Democrat and he knows what's going on. Okay.
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This is Sean O'Brien cut number thirty six talking about
the Democrats lost in twenty twenty four because it basically
accused them almost of a Stockholm syndrome. Cut thirty six, Rob.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
My thing is I always look at it from a
simple perspective. You're paying me to do something, or if
you're electing me to do something, I work for you. Okay,
whether Democrats lost, and I think you made a good
point earlier. They fell in love with their captives, they
fell in love with big money, they fell in love
with big tech, and they forgot who they truly representing
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working people. You know why because they're not in their communities,
not in their neighborhoods. You know, they're not talking to
the people that they're paid the report present and when
you talk to people one on one. Look, i could
sit in my office all day, every every day and
try and solve problems over the phone, and I'm not
going to get a true testimonial what is actually going on?
And I told you earlier, like I'm in workplaces. My
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partner and I were in workplaces, you know, three days,
three different states per week, and we're not talking to
leaders or anybody else. What's going on the shop floor
is talking to rank and file members. That's where you
get the best gauge and that that discipline should hold true.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
So that's Sean O'Brien, the team's just union president and
he nails it. He nails it.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Oh Dan, I get the police. The media is supposed
to be a watchdogs.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Oh please. So much of the.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
Media is in bed with the Democrats, and it's up
to you. You've gotta fave us.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Well, I'm gonna try me.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
As simple as that, John, do you favor? Leave your
name and number and and we make all you Okay,
let's we'll see what we can do. Okay, I promise
I'll try it and we'll complete the play. Don't hang up. Okay,
let me get real quickly here. I got a minute
for Dot in a minute for Maureen Dot. Welcome. What
do you? I know what you're thinking. I can read you.
Speaker 11 (33:08):
She is a wonderful woman. She's a brave woman to
go up against the lights of Campbell. Who's who's the
sister of a jail bird? He's still in jail. I'm
telling you. It's atrocious that after the vote we voted,
that they couldn't, that they don't They're not going to
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do what the voters want them to do. You know what,
can they keep electing these people?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Well that's the problem, they they it's a bunch of
sheep electing sheep. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (33:41):
And what's Heally doing? And what nothing Poker Hunt is doing?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Oh, she's done in.
Speaker 11 (33:46):
New York and she's she's doing a communist Yeah, it's
just it's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
But guess what, it's our reality and it's up to
us to change it. Done.
Speaker 11 (34:01):
Oh yes, oh yes, absolutely, I mean God, leave.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
You leave your name. I'm going to make sure you're
at the head of the list.
Speaker 11 (34:09):
Okay, absolutely, absolutely, thanks.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I love you, you know that. Thanks for that you
Joe by there. Okay, Okay, we're going to go from
Medford almost next door, Yeah, right next door to Winchester,
Maureen and Winchester. Hey, Mareen, you're going to wrap the
hour first, Go right ahead, Mareen.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Okay, great, Hey, I just left Medford. I'm going into Winchester.
I've already given my name a number to Rob and
I'd be glad to sign that. During the election, I
met one of her relatives and she he said, make
sure you vote for Diane because she's a go getter.
And so I did, and I, like you, was like
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trained and worked as a reporter, television reporter, and it's
all about finding the truth. And my sister and computer
science made me learn computers in the eighties. So I've
worked on proprietary, innovative, proprietary data basis. When I was
at a big farm, I don't want to say where
I found fraud, so thou dost protest too much. The
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company was called because we were losing money and we
to knew where. So the four of us were to
fifteen and we've got the coveted annual top Award. We
were saving a million dollars to the bottom line every
ten months, and then they sent me her to the
headquarters to work on other projects because we were losing money.
But the point is that when I called large companies
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like Liberty Medical, Percenius, what do you need by when
when I called the ones that were stealing from us
intentionally unintentionally, guests who called me dirty names, and guests
who wanted to have us ought to visit them on
a holiday like Thanksgiving our Christmas.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Sure, just playing games, Maureen, you called late unfortunately on
plat out of time. You got to call a little earlier.
I want you to become a regular caller.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Okay, okay, yeah, okay, I'll sign it. Rob has my uncle.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Thank you so much, Thank you, Maureen.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Okay. Two great hours on Nightside thanks to State Auditor
Diana Desaugli, And we're going to talk about another female
h Sidney Sweeney uh and the dust up over a
simple genes ad Back on Nightside after the eleven
A Night's Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBZ Costin's new radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, I've decided that I want to continue on this story.
The last hour we had a really interesting conversation, a
passionate argument presented by the State Order of the common
of Massachusetts. Here is the simple question, if you are
a resident of Massachusetts, if you're a voter in Massachusetts,
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even better, should the state Legislature, the State Senate, and
the State House of Representatives be audited by the State
Auditor of Massachusetts. Think about it. The legislature makes laws,
rights laws. That's their purpose. They're the legislature, the state auditor.
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The name is part of the title, Diana Desaglio Rhan.
Pretty much on the campaign of a ballot petition, an
initiative petition, So this was in Massachusetts. It's basically voters
get together and they get certain requisite numbers of signatures.
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It's an onerous process to get an issue in front
of the voters on election day. This was last November.
So a vote in favor said yes, the State Order
has the authority to audit the legislature, and it became
a law here in Massachusetts. A no vote would make
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no change in the law relative to the state auditors authority. Okay,
the vote, it was seventy two percent in favor of
an audit of the state legislature. But here in Massachusetts
we have an overwhelmingly democratic state legislature. And by the way,
this initiative by the state Auditor is being pushed by
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the elected state Auditor, who also happens to be a Democrat.
So this is not a Republican Democrat issue. It is
really a question of power versus a responsibility, and power corrupts,
and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I'll quote Lord Acton who
was quoted by Judge Mark Wolfe, and that's the situation
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we have here. So the Auditor, Diana does Augly, who
just spent forty minutes with us explaining that not only
is the legislature refusing to comply with the audit, they
want to have an outside agency that they would choose.
That's like when the IRS wants to audit you or
the Department of Revenue, what you should say is, well,
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I'm going to find my own CPA who will conduct
the audit and we'll let you know what's going on.
I don't think that would work. I don't think it
would work very well. You'd pretty soon be wearing some
custom made jewelry called handcuffs. But we'll put that aside.
So the state legislature basically is defying not only the
state Auditor, but the vote of the people. Seventy two percent.
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This was not like fifty one forty nine. This is
seventy two percent twenty eight. So the state auditor appealed
to the attorney general. There are six people in Massachusetts
who are elected statewide to what's called a constitutional office.
The governor, the Lieutenant governor, the state Treasurer, the state Order,
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the Attorney General, and the Secretary of State. This is
beyond belief. This should be a sixty minutes expose. If
Mike Wallace was still working for sixty minutes, I could
write it for Mike Wallace. I could hear his voices
voices in my head right now. So the state, the
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attorney General, supposedly the attorney for the people, representative of
the people, the people's lawyer in this case, doesn't want
to be the people's lawyer, wants no part of the case.
And in addition, in addition, is now telling the state
auditor that even if private funds private funds will support
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a law firm to take this case to the state
Supreme Court. The state Attorney General says she will be
opposed to it. She will prevent the state auditor from
going outside. So my suggestion, and I think it's a
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pretty good one, if I do say so myself, is
that you can have a class action stude in Massachusetts.
And I believe in all it takes is about ten
people who were qualified as members of the group the
class and they would have to be citizens who voted
in the election last fall and who would verify or
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assert that they voted in favor of this initiative petition.
I don't see how they can be denied standing irrespect
of whatever Andrea Campbell might like to enforce. This is
serious business we're talking about here, folks. So what I'd
love to have as many of you as possible in
the next half an hour, let up these phone lines.
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Tell me that you might be willing to attach your
name to an initiative, to a class action lawsuit which
would go into court to basically have the judiciary instruct
the legislature to submit to a full and proper audit
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as required by the vote of the people. Of Massachusetts.
It's not that complicated. It is just not that complicated.
I'm going to open up phone line six one seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten
thirty if you want to voice your support for the
legislature and tell me why they shouldn't be audited, feel free.
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As I said before, the Speaker of the House and
the Senate President has a standing invitation to join me
any night day of their choosing to defend this indefensible
position by the legislature. And again, it not leads the
indefensible position politically, but it is also an indefensible position legally.
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Seventy two percent of the voters of Massachusetts have approved
this law, in my opinion. In my opinion, this law
has to be has it's been enacted, but it has
to be accepted by the legislature. And if you have
a member of the legislature in your family, or if
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you know a member of the legislature, or if you
just want to call your state representative or your state senator,
please do so because frankly, if you took the time
to vote and you voted for this, or even if
you didn't vote for it, the legislature. If they don't
recognize the law and comply with the law, why should
you seriously think about it? I mean, I'm not suggesting
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anarchy here, but I mean, you know, when you park illegally,
you get a ticket. When you speed, you get a ticket.
When you don't pay your taxes, you're audited. When you
fire your taxes improperly, you're audited. Okay, So if you
would like to be willing to leave your name with
Rob and a daytime phone number, when I talk to
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the lawyers sometime in the next day or two, I'll
report back to you. You know, I'm very good at
reporting back. I don't I don't start things that I
don't finish. Ask Joe Solvadi about that. Ask Lynda LaRouche
about that. Ask a lot of people who have done
stories for and against Laruse was the crazed perennial candidate
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who glories led to his incarceration, his conviction, and his indictment,
conviction and incarceration for nine years. But that's a story
for another time. I follow through, essentially, is what I'm saying. Okay,
whether you like me or not, I follow through. I
want to follow through on this we'll take phone calls,
but quick break six one seven. The only line's open
right now, six one, seven, nine, three, one ten thirty.
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Don't think of that as a secondary phone line to
night Side. That is just as good. The six one seven, two, five,
four ten thirty is full up. Six one seven, nine
three one ten thirty. Let's light it up, have a long.
If you disagree with me, feel free. I'll be happy
to entertain that conversation. Say say the speaker, I'm sure
he won't come on. He doesn't have the guts the
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guile to come on. Uh, Nor does Karen spilkem Uh.
They don't have to come on because they are supported
by their their colleagues, the solons up at the State House.
Back on Nightside right after this, let's light it up.
We will tonight get to the Sydney Sweeney story, which
to me is just incredible. How this thing is blown up. Uh,
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And the people who are calling it names are just
they're over the top, they've lost their minds. We'll be
back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Roub tells me he's got a lot of people who
have volunteered to participate if necessary as a member of
a class action lawsuit. I want you to I want
to hear you voices. This is a talk show. Okay,
you know how I feel. I want to know how
you feel, and if any of you disagree, let's hear it.
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Six seven two thirty. This affects all of you in Massachusetts.
And I want to thank Nancy for Rhode Island. She
was outraged down in Rhode Island. Uh, let your friends,
let your relatives know here that this is what happens
when you have government that is auto that is truly autocratic,
that is truly a one party government. That's what that's
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what an autocracy truly is. And we have that here
in Massachusetts. I love the fact that the Texas legislators
are coming to Massachusetts state where we don't need to
have what we do have jerry mandering. Trust me, I'm
jerry mandering. When the Democrats needed to preserve certain seats,
they jerry manned those districts. But they're coming to Massachusetts.
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They created jerry mandarin in Massachusetts. That's the word jerry
mandering comes from Governor Jerry G.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
E R.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Gary G.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
E R.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
R Y.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Man. The hypocrisy is breathtaking. I can't keep up with it.
Tony is in Gardner the chair City. Tony, thank you
for calling and I appreciate it. Go right ahead, Server.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Hey Dan, you know, I was wondering if there's another
way to get the information for the settlement agreements to
the public records law.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
No, no, no, no. These are records that are hidden.
That's why they need an on it. If you could
get them through the public records law, you wouldn't need
an on it.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Well, you know, I'm looking at the Secretary of State's
website and he says that the public records Law will
not operate to allow for the withholding of settle agreements
as a whole. However, portions may be reacted.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
So you're so deep in the weeds, Tony. You were
doing exactly what they want. They would love you. That's
like arguing how many angels fit on the head of
a pin. I think it's five million angels. How many
angels do you think fit on the head of a pin?
What's your best guess? Serious?
Speaker 6 (11:52):
It might be one more account you can add to
the complaint. You never know, you know a way to
get those settlement agreements out there.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Don't can, no, No, the Audit would get them out there,
and the Audit would protect the privacy of individuals. Okay,
because what you have the reality up there is that
for a long time and it's still maybe going on today,
that you know, some of the male members of the
Great in General Court would hit on some of the
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female interns. Okay, yeah, you know, and and and then
there would be some settlements. But there are other abuses
we're talking about. Look at the cab company in Truro
that had a six million dollar contract to give illegal immigrants,
people who are here illegally, cab rights so they can
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get to the store and get their doctor's appointments. Do
you know that that cab company we found out when
you call a cab, what do you think is on
the meter when the cab pulls up in front of
your house? Tony, you want to give me.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
A guess, you know, I don't know. I would say maybe,
I don't know, maybe nothing, right, yes.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Of course nothing, that's the answer. You you call the
cab company and you say, Tony lives at one Main
Street and Gardener, I'd like a cab at eleven o'clock
because I have to take a ride to a Fitzburg
and my car is broken down. You show up and
when you get in the car, they throw the meter
down at truro. They're coming to pick up the illegal
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immigrant in some cases, to give them a ride of
like a couple one hundred yards. Okay, forty dollars. The
meter starts at forty dollars. That was a no bid
contract given out by the Healy administration with you know,
with the the you know, to the immigration crisis. So no, Tony,
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this is one. I don't think that you're willing to
give your name to this, but I'm glad you called.
But yeah we did. Oh god, you did. Okay, that's great. Well,
I appreciate by the way you are. Okay, well, Tony,
you know as well as I do that the best case,
either a civil case or a criminal case, is where
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the facts are clear, the facts are clean, You put
the case in, you sit down. But when the other
side gets up, they're going to try to, you know,
muddy the waters as much as they can. Don't muddy
our own waters.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
They will.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
But it works both ways because you can use the
public records laws as a sign of the intent of
what the war is that they can't deny it's unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
The law is on the books, Tony. It was voted
seventy two percent. It is now a law on the books,
a law by initiative petition. It is on the books.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
It's like, oh, if we don't know what the what
the what the SJC is going to come back with
and we.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Gotta first get we have to get to the SJC, Tony,
because the people's lawyer, they Ternel of Massachusetts, Andrea Campbell,
is basically throwing war box. So Disauglio can't even take
the case to the s JAC. It's all a game, Tony,
It's all a game. You're a lawyer out there, Tony.
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You sound like a decent guy. And you also sound
like you You sound like you're a young guy. How
old are you?
Speaker 6 (15:17):
If I could ask, oh, dad, i'd i'm old. I'm
sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Okay, Well, you know what, you should find some young
lawyer out there to run against, find out how the
reps voted out there. You've been around a long time, Tony.
I'm come on. We gotta we got to leave a
legacy for our kids and our grandkids, which is better
than what we have out there now. It used to
be corruption and you had, you know, speakers who were
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indicted and all of that. Uh, now it's uh, it's
it's let's hide the ball. It's hide the ball, Tony,
I gotta run. Thank you so much for lending your name.
You're very welcome. Thanks for calling my show.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
If you called before, no oh yeah, I've called a
couple of times.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Make it more off until he enjoyed the conversation. Thank
you much. Have a great one. We'll take a break.
We're coming right back on night's side. One line at
six one seven, two five four ten thirty. We're just
filled up. And one line at six one seven, nine
three one ten thirty. I love it when we have
a conversation that generates passion. Okay, I really love that.
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And Diana Dezaglio, she is a passionate reformer. And I
don't care. If you're a Democrat, you're a public. She's
a democrat. If you're a conservative, you're a liberal, you're progressive.
This is something that cries out to be to be fixed,
and it's it was fixed by the voters, and now
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the will of the voters must be observed. And it's
being frustrated by other political so called leaders out there
who at this point I can only conclude her in
the bag and we got full lines. Let's keep it going.
Everybody coming back on Nightside with Dan Ray.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I'm WBZ Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Let's get to the call is going to go to
Joe and Lynn. Joe, you were next to Nightside. Welcome Joe,
how are you tonight?
Speaker 8 (17:16):
Miss? These people should be arrested. This is why it's
hard to respect law enforcement. The attorney general we voted
to help us is doing those wrong things. What can
Diane do? Can she go above her go to the
Supreme Court? What's her next step beside class actions?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Well, if you listened last hour, I mean the attorney general,
who is supposed to represent the other statewide elective constitutional offices,
said that she would not take the case, and she
said that she would actively attempt to block and prevent
Dezaglio from using outside lawyers to represent her. So I'm
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suggesting that you take those outside lawyers and you fall
a class class action lawsuit, uh, and that that might
be a way to get the case before the States
Supreme The State Supreme Court would would rule but at
least it would give her a day in court. And
we'll have to see. And I'm willing to get involved
in it, you know, in whatever way is it is possible, right,
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that's and.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
I feel these people should be arrested. None of the
name should be redacted because they've done all kinds of things.
This is what happens.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
There's no criminal offense here at this point that we
know of now. If there if something in the audit
were to discover criminality, that's a different story. But there's
for being truculent, because that's and and uh and and
stubborn and and.
Speaker 8 (18:48):
I have a feeling there's something in the artic going
on that we don't know. That's why they look.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
You know, if you've got nothing to hide, you know,
this is you say, hey, open them up, I'm clean.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
It's a whistle seventy two percent a lot of people.
And I hope Diane gets her way. I hope she
wins this case. And they just wanted to touch base
on that number with Rob. Yeah, okay, thanks.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Okay, thank you, Joe. If you've Rob taked his name
and number. If not, we'll just keep moving up. We
won't move on here. Let me go next to Phil
in Boston. Phil, how are you? Did you leave his
name and number? Rob?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah, I gave my name as usual, But you know,
I guess for the cause, Dan, I might be at
this advent. I know I want to disadvantage as usual.
I'm when you use the lady, when you rough with
a lady, cam cam Bro whatever his name. Well, she
is the attorney general this artime is I was thinking
the same thing a couple of weeks. This woman is
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a strong woman. I'm telling you man to buck the system.
But who was this woman? Is she the attorney general?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
The attorney General of the Commonwealth of mass Masachusetts is
a woman named Andrea Campbell. She used to be a
city councilor in Boston. She was elected the attorney general
of the call o the Massachusetts and she basically is
preventing doing whatever she can to prevent the state Auditor
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from going into court to have the court determine whether
or not this law, which we voted for by a
margin of seventy two percent to twenty eight percent.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
And what was the law?
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Did you've been listening to the show? Yeah, the law
is pretty simple. The law is pretty simple, Phil, what
the law passed? Seventy two percent? It was an initiative position, okay,
And it's said a yes vote would specify that the
state Auditor, Diana Dezaglio at the state Auditor, has the
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authority to audit the legislature. That's pretty straightforw it.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
I don't know what words.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I know you did. I'm sure you did so. I
don't know how the the court would turn around and say, wow,
this law is a little vague and ambiguous.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
You know, you can't make this stuff up. You can make.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
This stuff up. That's why I'm so upset about it. Okay,
who it was?
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Who was before her?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
No, before her? I can get her name. She was
a state auditor, it doesn't matter. Was the auditor for
a long time. And Joe Denucci was a great auditor.
He was a fighter for but for about twenty years.
And but this auditor is like no other auditor than that.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
She's getting a slam left and right. She's in a
heavyweight fight here. You probably only weighsounds.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, well let's stay on topic. Phil. You're gonna leave
your name and number with Rob, so if we decided to,
all right, Phil, I appreciate that. I could tell that
Joe would not leave his name and number when they
asked him. That he didn't. He has called hey, they
called back, great, Okay, that's good, glad.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
He don't want to get involved. It's a problem. While
we were hit today, all as a stand up.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Well you and Diana does augly we have someone who
stands up for sure. Uh. And now again I can
tell you that the the the apparatus of the Democratic
Party is being very obvious. The governor's not supporting her,
the lieutenant governor supporting her state, and these are all Democrats.
Andrea came back and Campbell, the attorney general, who's supposed
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to be the people's lawyer's swing, roadblock after roadblock to.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
The average guys to fight a parking ticket.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Exactly. That's the point you you get a part, or
you even get to the point where the meter maid
is hitting here with the parking ticket and you say,
come on, I was only hit for two minutes. I
don't care. I'm running the backing And then if you
say anything, or if you mumble something under your breath,
thanks a lot. Now I heard that. I'm calling the police,
(23:13):
and Phil.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Take it easiluck. That's all unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
You got it. Thanks Phil, appreciate it. Let's keep You're
going to go to Mike and Bradford. Ladies, we need
some some female participants here. We had some last hour
Mike and Bradford.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Hi Mike, Hi, Dan, how are you tonight?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
A little wound up? But but I feel really strongly
about this. This This is going absolutely against the will,
the overwhelming will of the voters.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
This is totally fostical, Dan, Yeah, totally fosticle. And and
you know, I think that you know, uh, Diane is
doing a tremendous job and really needs to con new
fighting this. When I end my call, you know, put
(24:05):
me on hole so I can give my name my nob.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Absolutely, I appreciate that, I really do. And again I
just think that, you know, also, I don't know who
use state rep is out there. I don't know who
your state senator is. But if you know any of
these people, I think you got to say to them, look,
you know you you voted against the will of the people.
You know. Now if they said, you know, I voted.
I believe that there's been a couple of sort of
like test votes in the legislature, as Uglia would be
(24:31):
more on top of that than I am. But for
for the for the the the sheep in the state
legislature of Massachusetts just to go along, to get along,
to maintain their subcommittee chairmanship that meets, you know, once
every six months, and they get an extra twenty grand
as a chairman of an of really an unnecessary legislative committee.
(24:52):
That's the game that's being played up there, you know,
as well as I do.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Oh yeah, well, correct, correct me if I'm wrong. But
during the.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
Campaign process before the election, nobody, nobody that I remember,
went against her saying well, this is a waste of time,
or this this wouldn't be a good idea. Nobody said
anything about it. And now all of a sudden, they're
coming out of the woodwork, you know, saying, oh, we
(25:21):
can't do this.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Well, what happens is she's going against the powerful, entrenched
institutional leaders, the Speaker of the House, Mariano from Brockton.
How Bobby Delio ever handed that position. I had a
great deal of respect for Bobby Leo. He was a
baseball teammate of mine in high school and a guy
of I thought real good ethics. How he turned this
(25:46):
over to Mariotto is beyond me. There are some people
out there who are much smarter than Marianno. The ways
and means Chairman would be would be the person who
I think should be the speaker up there. And Karen
Spilker has been the Senate President of long time. I've
worked with her on a couple of pieces of legislation
which were good legislation. We were able to many many years ago.
(26:08):
UH turned around pass a piece of legislation which reformed
life insurance law here in Massachusetts, and I'm very proud
of of the work that we did together on that.
But once they get into a position of power, the
power goes to their heads and they become you know,
little Billy Bulger wannabes.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I mean, yeah, there's no argument there.
Speaker 10 (26:30):
Yeah you got it. Hey, Mike, thank you so Much've
you hold on? Rob will take your name? Okay, well
just put Thank you much, Mike from Bradford. Six one
seven two four ten thirty six one seven nine three
one ten thirty. Both of those lines are fold. The
only one line is six one seven two five four
to ten thirty. We're coming right back on Night's side.
(26:51):
Let's keep it rolling. I think I will just end
this at eleven o'clock because I do want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
The full reaction to a blue jeans commercial back on
Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
It's night Side with Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Okay, let's keep rolling here, John and Debta May. John
appreciate you calling in your next on Nightside.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
Go ahead, John, Damn, where do we start with this thing?
This is a nightmare I and I actually went on
the State Author's website. My background as account is there's
got to be something I can do to help this
cause other than just call a radio show. It's just
I can't believe how corrupt the Democrats have become, federal, state, local.
(27:37):
You know, it shouldn't it be a simple question, asked
the legislator, like, hey, shouldn't we account for every tax dollar?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
But it's even the thing, John, is that it's even
simpler than that. Okay, we're passed the question. This was
on the ballot. It was an initiative petition. I mean,
the legislature would not give them a vote on it,
so the voters went out and collected an adequate number
of signatures. I think it takes two rounds to get
(28:04):
it on the ballot, and it got on the ballot,
and the yes vote would specify that the state auditor
has the authority to honor the legislature. You know how
voted game set match seventy two percent? I mean, you
know when Linden, when when Nixon beat McGovern or, when
(28:24):
Reagan beat Mondale, or when Johnson beat Goldwater, they got
like fifty fifty nine percent. That's a landslide. What if
that's a landslide. You know what is seventy two percent?
It's it's an avalanche.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
And something that were to bring it b real quick.
Last week, I was watching the local news in the
morning get ready for work, and it was showing that
the new designs of these rest stops. And I remember
you had a local gentleman on your show a few
weeks ago who bid on the contract and they gave
the contract yep, to some they whatever came of that.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Well, they gave it to this is the Healing Administration.
They gave it to a company from Ireland called Apple Green.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
Did you ever find out why?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Though?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (29:14):
And that's it.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
That's what I'm talking about. Corruption across the board. Jan
I wish you spent a whole night on this topic
because I want to hear the Democrats of the state
call and defend these people.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
They're not going to call and defend them, because, first
of all, they have a network of people who will
sit out there and who will just monitor what's going on.
We're in a state now where sixty four percent of
the voters are independent, and I believe that it's something like,
I don't know twenty five percent. I'm rough guessing our
(29:46):
Democrats and that pretty much the legislature and their immediate
families and the teachers' union, and then the eight percent
of Republicans. I mean the Republican Uh need to get
their act together. But the public has spoken on this
issue of the auditing the legislature and the Democrats basically saying,
(30:11):
screw you, we don't care what you're voted for, because
guess what, like a bunch of sheep, everybody goes to
the polls and they'll vote for this their local state
rep or the.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
First ones to say nobody's above the law except we are.
And I know people leave in the names of numbers.
Is that for the class action suit?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah? Yeah, if you want to leave your name and
number I'm what I'm hoping to do is I want
to talk to the lawyers that have stepped forward and
if if somehow, if somehow, if they have uh, you know,
Andrea Campbell is not going to do the right thing here,
(30:54):
and I don't think she will, then let's try to
do a class action suit. By the way, Okay, here's
here's Sean O'Brien, the Teams Union president. Rob. I get
a sound, but I want to play. I want to
support what John is saying here. Sean is a Democrat, Okay,
but he's an intelligent Democrat and he knows what's going on. Okay.
(31:17):
This is Sean O'Brien cut number thirty six talking about
the Democrats lost in twenty twenty four because it basically
accused them almost of a Stockholm syndrome. Cut thirty six, Rob.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
My thing is I always look at it from a
simple perspective. You're paying me to do something, or if
you're electing me to do something, I work for you. Okay,
whether Democrats lost, and I think you made a good
point earlier. They fell in love with their captives, they
fell in love with big money, they fell in love
with big tech, and they forgot who they truly representing
(31:52):
working people. You know why because they're not in their communities,
not in their neighborhoods. You know, they're not talking to
the people that they're paid the report present and when
you talk to people one on one. Look, i could
sit in my office all day, every every day and
try and solve problems over the phone, and I'm not
going to get a true testimonial what is actually going on?
And I told you earlier, like I'm in workplaces. My
(32:12):
partner and I were in workplaces, you know, three days,
three different states per week, and we're not talking to
leaders or anybody else. What's going on the shop floor
is talking to rank and file members. That's where you
get the best gauge and that that discipline should hold true.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
So that's Sean O'Brien, the team's just union president and
he nails it. He nails it.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Oh Dan, I get the police. The media is supposed
to be a watchdogs.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Oh please. So much of the.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
Media is in bed with the Democrats, and it's up
to you. You've gotta fave us.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Well, I'm gonna try me.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
As simple as that, John, do you favor? Leave your
name and number and and we make all you Okay,
let's we'll see what we can do. Okay, I promise
I'll try it and we'll complete the play. Don't hang up. Okay,
let me get real quickly here. I got a minute
for Dot in a minute for Maureen Dot. Welcome. What
do you? I know what you're thinking. I can read you.
Speaker 11 (33:08):
She is a wonderful woman. She's a brave woman to
go up against the lights of Campbell. Who's who's the
sister of a jail bird? He's still in jail. I'm
telling you. It's atrocious that after the vote we voted,
that they couldn't, that they don't They're not going to
(33:29):
do what the voters want them to do. You know what,
can they keep electing these people?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Well that's the problem, they they it's a bunch of
sheep electing sheep. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (33:41):
And what's Heally doing? And what nothing Poker Hunt is doing?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Oh, she's done in.
Speaker 11 (33:46):
New York and she's she's doing a communist Yeah, it's
just it's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
But guess what, it's our reality and it's up to
us to change it. Done.
Speaker 11 (34:01):
Oh yes, oh yes, absolutely, I mean God, leave.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
You leave your name. I'm going to make sure you're
at the head of the list.
Speaker 11 (34:09):
Okay, absolutely, absolutely, thanks.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I love you, you know that. Thanks for that you
Joe by there. Okay, Okay, we're going to go from
Medford almost next door, Yeah, right next door to Winchester,
Maureen and Winchester. Hey, Mareen, you're going to wrap the
hour first, Go right ahead, Mareen.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Okay, great, Hey, I just left Medford. I'm going into Winchester.
I've already given my name a number to Rob and
I'd be glad to sign that. During the election, I
met one of her relatives and she he said, make
sure you vote for Diane because she's a go getter.
And so I did, and I, like you, was like
(34:49):
trained and worked as a reporter, television reporter, and it's
all about finding the truth. And my sister and computer
science made me learn computers in the eighties. So I've
worked on proprietary, innovative, proprietary data basis. When I was
at a big farm, I don't want to say where
I found fraud, so thou dost protest too much. The
(35:11):
company was called because we were losing money and we
to knew where. So the four of us were to
fifteen and we've got the coveted annual top Award. We
were saving a million dollars to the bottom line every
ten months, and then they sent me her to the
headquarters to work on other projects because we were losing money.
But the point is that when I called large companies
(35:33):
like Liberty Medical, Percenius, what do you need by when
when I called the ones that were stealing from us
intentionally unintentionally, guests who called me dirty names, and guests
who wanted to have us ought to visit them on
a holiday like Thanksgiving our Christmas.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Sure, just playing games, Maureen, you called late unfortunately on
plat out of time. You got to call a little earlier.
I want you to become a regular caller.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Okay, okay, yeah, okay, I'll sign it. Rob has my uncle.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Thank you so much, Thank you, Maureen.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Okay. Two great hours on Nightside thanks to State Auditor
Diana Desaugli, And we're going to talk about another female
h Sidney Sweeney uh and the dust up over a
simple genes ad Back on Nightside after the eleven
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