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June 20, 2025 40 mins
Part 2 of Israel has outlined it lacks the ordnance to take out Iran’s Fordow nuclear facility and needs U.S. assistance. President Trump indicated it makes sense for the U.S. to launch strikes against Iran, but only if the “bunker-buster” bombs are guaranteed to work. Trump is not convinced these bombs can penetrate Fordow which has an estimated depth of 300ft. Dan brings you the latest.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's a niceiety. And Dan Ray, I'm telling you Boston.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
News Radio, all right, we're going to keep rolling here now.
Whenever we talk about war and peace, the ladies don't
pick up the phone. Ladies, women, whatever you want to say,
I want to hear from you on this. Donald Trump
has a big decision to make, and it's a decision
that's going to impact a part of the world half

(00:28):
a world away, but it could have implications for us
in our own backyard.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
The folks who will be skeptical are going to say,
what's the plan for the day after? You know, I
don't know what the plan for the day after is.
They better have some idea about what might happen. So
we only lines open right now. We have two at six, one, seven,
two thirty. Here's the issue. And if you want to

(00:56):
identify yourself either as a Trump supporter or as a
Trump critic, which is fine. My question is this is
probably the most monumental decision that Donald Trump, short of
going to war with Russia or China, This has to
be the most monumental decision that Trump. Donald Trump is

(01:17):
likely to make during his time in office. What should
he do? Has how has he played it so far.
That's what I'm asking. Let's go to Mike and Beverly. Mike,
you next on nights.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I go right ahead, Hey, how are you? How you
feeling tonight? Feeling better tonight than last night?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Surprisingly had some of that that stuff. I think it's
called musin X. Seems to have helped me a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
I swear my last stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
I love that stuff. That was like liquid gold. I
love that.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Okay, well I took it in pill form, so we'll
find out. Not feeling one hundred percent, Mike, there's no
doubt about that. It probably you can hear it in
my voice. But thank you for asking.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Thank you for us anyway, So as as you had
a couple of calls earlier saying about the situation and
not we know troops on the ground. If you do it,
it's just to me the bunking busters. But don't be
surprised that there's not something. Does Israel have atomic bombs,
you know?

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Dan?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I believe they do. I believe they do, but I
think they would be very hesitant to move them to
use them, Okay, because because even if they used them, uh,
that stuff is going to spread, which is one of
the arguments against Iran that the President made. You heard
the comments that were we we played earlier that that

(02:39):
this stuff will migrate throughout the community. Look, I want
to play one bite. I want your once your reaction
to this mic. This has got number four, Please Noah,
I want Mike to respond to this cut number four.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
People in the base don't want to long term more
that they're afraid that we're going to get into a
long term. A long term we're looking which only want
one thing. Iran cannot have him if they weapon. I said,
I'm not looking long term structure. And I've been saying
that for twenty years. I've been saying that this is
a civilian who got a lot of publicity.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
People would cover it very simply. Iran cannot have.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Any brew up.

Speaker 7 (03:14):
And he said, it's not a question of anything else.
And if you did, you wouldn't have much of a
country because they would use.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
It on us, and they'd use it on other people
and they'd be a terror all over the world.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Boy, if that doesn't give us some insight into what
he's thinking, nothing does.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Oh I get again and I totally support him a
big time about this is rail battle with this thing
for years, for forty five years. I think it's oh
my god, Dan, the loss soldiers, all that sort of stuff,
and they're like right there about going without it, and
that guy's gonna go down without it. He's not gonna surrender.
I'll tell you right now, he's not only in the

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bunking right now. He ain't going down. He ain't gonna
surrender and ain't gonna happen. I'll tell you right now.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
All right, we'll see, we'll see how it transpires. Thank you, man,
appreciate you call very much. Thanks, Thanks Mike. All right,
I get some more six one seven four thirty six
one seven nine three one ten thirty. I cannot think
of a more consequential decision that Donald Trump is likely
to make during his presidency. And I'd love to hear

(04:15):
from you, whether you are a Trump supporter or a
Trump critic, his decision will have implications for everyone worldwide, implications.
It doesn't get any bigger than this. Don't disappoint me.
Tell me what you think he should do. It'll be
easy when it's over. I want you to put yourself

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in the Oval office as his advisor. He turns to
you and says, what should I do. I gotta tell you,
I think it's a great question, and I know that
I'm going to have a variety of answers here. It's
more than yes or no, it's what do you do?
And how are you prepared for whatever the blowback will be.

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Let's go next, too, Glenn, Glenn, You're next, do Knights?
I go eg Glynn.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
I am very depressed and very angry. I hope he
doesn't do this because you know, I'm gonna die our
Trump flan for ten years, I've never disagree with him
on anything. I agree with them on his war on
Harvard Foreign Exchange students every time. But on this, do
we know A if we have sleeper cells in this country?

(05:24):
B how many? And see where are they?

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Well, first of all, I'm sure there are sleeper cells
in this country at this point, the board has been
for four years. Okay, but do we know where they are?
I'm sure we don't know where they all are? And
I'm sure I mean if if that's.

Speaker 8 (05:42):
My point, yeah, I mean we could have a nine
to eleven as a result of this, which say we
pull this off off successfully and then something happens here
in a New York City subway.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well, you're you're talking about biological chemical weapons. There's there's
a lot of things that can be smuggled into the country.
You have, right, you know, you have people come across
the border, not only from Mexico but from Canada. And yeah,
we've tightened up the border. But as you said, who's here,
what are their intentions? We don't know. We don't know
that that's the unknown. But here's the question. Here's the question.

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Are you willing I'll play Devil's advocate with you. Are
you willing to see Iran become a nuclear nation? And
what havoc might you have to deal with five years
from now, maybe five months from now.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
I don't know. Most people have nukes, it's kind of hard.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
No, most people don't have nukes.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
Well, I mean India has them, and I mean Russia, China,
we do, Israel, hasm.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
We think they do, whether they have them, whether they
have a delivery system, whether they would use them. I
am fearful that the theocrats who run Iran, there's zealots.
They not want to destroy the US, who's half a
world away, but they want to destroy Israel, which is

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one thousand miles away.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
Oh. I know it's like they want Israel first and
then US. But I support Israel's client policy. I support
their Prime minister. But I just think at the end
of the day, this is their war. I don't think
it's our war.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, if they don't have if they don't have the
ordinance to take out these facilities, because they're buried underground,
deep underground, and we have it, you know, and we're
an ally of Israel, do we say to Israel, no,
we're not going to use these because when they get

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the bomb, we'll use it. Then it'll be too late.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
Well, I mean, I understand that side. I just okay, I'll.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Play Devil's avocate with whatever side comes up tonight, Glenn. Okay,
it's it's a pretty serious topic. I think it's the
most consequential decision that this president will will be faced with,
you know, absent China invading Taiwan, that'd be a pretty
big question.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
I know, that's another problem.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
You got it, You got it, Glenn. I appreciate your
call as always. Thank you, my friend.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
All right, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Okay. The only line open right now, only six one, seven, two, five,
four to ten thirty. The other line is full six one, seven, two, five,
four to ten thirty. I got Jim, I got Kim, Kim,
thanks very much. It's great to have a female perspective
on this. It's important. Two lines six one seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. Back on night Side, It's.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Night Side with Dany. I'm tell you bas Boston's news Radio.
It's night Side with Dan Rey on Boston's News Radio.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Okay, let's roll. They're going to go to gym in
Kansas City. Jim, you're next on Nightside.

Speaker 9 (09:08):
Your thoughts, Dan, thanks for you might call uh Well
to me, Dan, I'm I'm a Trump supporter. But to me,
it's not a matter of yes or no. It's a
matter of how and exactly where, because I'm sure we
have what we need to reach it, but you need

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to know exactly where to drop it. Because if you
look at that, if I'm not mistaken, this place is
not called it's spelled capital f E R dows, so
that maybe pronounced four dow, but it's spelled fur doze.
And it's in between a big mountain range and kind
of a smaller mountain range. They both look like they're

(09:53):
volcanic maybe metamorphic rock. If it's underneath, if it's inside those,
it's going to be really really difficult, you know, to
get deep enough. So depending on how. To me, it's
not a matter of.

Speaker 8 (10:07):
Yes or no.

Speaker 9 (10:07):
It's a matter of exactly how and where and uh So,
hopefully we have some men tell telling them I looked
at their I looked at their products. It doesn't say
anything about uranium. But they trade heavily with China, so
they may be getting their uranium from China.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
Which if that.

Speaker 9 (10:26):
The good thing about that is that if we if
we eliminate what they have, then it'd be a while
before they could get more from China.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Maybe.

Speaker 9 (10:35):
In other words, they're not they're not mining their own.
They don't have like a huge stockpile of it. So
I mean, but to me, are you still there?

Speaker 2 (10:44):
I'm listening. I'm listening.

Speaker 9 (10:46):
I'm looking at on a map, and I don't I mean,
according to what I'm seeing, we don't know very much
about It's probably a language barrier, very secretive and you know,
very uh in in uh introverted society.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Okay, so so where does when you when you take
all of that and you put it in your computer
and you're the president or or you're in the in
the office with the president and he turns to you
and says, Jim, I got to make a decision. What
should I do?

Speaker 9 (11:20):
Well, the decisions already, Like I said, it's not a
matter of yes or no. It's definitely a yes. But
the question is exactly what you hit. If you look
on a map, there's two models.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
I assume that there are people above my pay grade,
in your grade who have this figured out. I mean,
I'm sure they're not flying planes over there and saying
drop it when you think so. I mean, they know
where where they.

Speaker 9 (11:42):
Want to hit, but maybe hopefully because I'll.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Just say, look, I think that is the mission has
to be clearly defined. They must know to the to
the well, not to the meter, where with this uh,
where they're going to hit it. I have to believe
that they're not just flying over there and saying, hey,
give a good look out the window and drop something big.
No no, no, no, no no. They know. And by

(12:10):
the way, they're going to have to take off from
an airbase in your state.

Speaker 9 (12:15):
I mean, I'm looking at this mountain range and it
looks to me like it's about between half and three
quarters as tall as Mount Palomar, and Palomar is nine
thousand feet, so it's somewhere around forty five hundred feet tall.
That's pretty tall. I mean, I'm sure they got.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
The whole uh you know, Jim, Jim, you're telling me
stuff that they know all this stuff, I mean, what
the name is and all of that. They know where
they want to drop the bomb. If I'm sure they
have all the intelligence they need. I hope they have
the right intelligence. I hope they're not going to drop
it in the wrong place. But if the President says
to you, Okay, Jim, we got up, we know where

(12:52):
we want to go. Should I go today? Should I
wait the two weeks? What should I do? What do
you tell them?

Speaker 9 (13:00):
Oh, you need to negotiate install for time as long
as you can. But I say, it all depends on
exactly what you know and how well you know it.
But I mean, if they're saying it's at fourdoh, they
could be shuttling it between those two mountain ranges and
then you'd have to hit both they have to cut
it off, and I don't know.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Okay, Well, thank you very much. I think I think
you I appreciate your Paul and I think that a
lot of people probably can identify with what you're saying.

Speaker 9 (13:27):
I was thinking that if it's if they know exactly
where it is, and it's like one mountain that's like
fifteen hundred feet tall, you could just drop it down
to like five hundred feet and just turn everything into
dust in that area.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Again, I don't know the capacity. I'm told. I'm told
that the bomb is what's called a bunker buster bomb,
which would penetrate the earth. There probably would be two
or three that would be dropped. It wouldn't just be one. Again,
I'm not.

Speaker 9 (13:57):
I I dropped four for one right in the mid
at the top, one ninety degrees halfway down.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Well, thank you, thank you for the statistical analysis. Jim.
I gotta keep rolling here, man, Okay, thanks, I appreciate it.
Jim is giving us plenty of information. Next up is
Kim in Winthrop. Kim welcome.

Speaker 10 (14:15):
Okay, Uh, the guys, your other callers are very nervous.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
How did this come up? As Kim, this is this
is Tim. This isn't Kim Tim, Tim, Tim? Yeah, all right,
mixed it up. It's Timothy. Noah, go ahead, Tim.

Speaker 10 (14:31):
They're a little bit to the left that nervous. I'm
not nervous at all. They gotta get they got They
know the Messade and the FBI today and the CIA.
They know exactly where it is and they're gonna bomb
both places. Are three places they know more than we do,
like of course, and I'm talking sense. And they're gonna

(14:51):
have no ground troops, That's what I'm saying. Uh, there
we no ground troops there. They're gonna eliminate the threat
causing avalanche. These thing's going to go four hundred feet
below the ground, so they I'm not worried at all,
you know what I mean. I'm not worried at all.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Well, I appreciate your confidence, but I'm worried. I'm worried
that if we do go, that the mission is successful,
that it accomplishes what it needs to accomplish, and also
is prepared because there's going to be some blowback.

Speaker 10 (15:28):
I mean, they don't have any line of command at all.
The most of them been taken out anyways. But we
can't accept that. But they know more than we do.
And I don't think they're a threat right now, but
they're a little threat.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
But I think the strength of Iran. I've read up
a little bit on this, not a lot. I believe
that they have the fifth largest standing army in the world.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Doesn't matter, no, no, I understand that.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I do understand that. But what I'm saying is they're
considered to have a big army. Now again, I assume
we have satellite telemetry which allows us to figure out
have they moved troops somewhere. All of that, I mean,
I assume that the president has a lot more information.
But the premise of this hour or this hour and

(16:19):
a half is to say to people, this is the
sort of decisions that a president makes. When a president
decides to close the border, that's a that's not a biggie.
You knew he was going to do that, but this
is one that has some some far flung implications. It
will be no matter what he does or doesn't do that.

Speaker 10 (16:41):
Yeah, let me add what happened Israel bomb the LNG
the gas, which got me mad. But they didn't get
the oil refineries. But I already called on my oil company.
I'm locked in at three point fifty nine.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Do you know something, Tim, I was about to ask you, uh,
if you had done that. But that's very smart and
obviously yeah, yeah, because I would think I would bet
you that. And you know what, if your tank is
in full, fill it up now lock it in for
next year. Good move, good move.

Speaker 10 (17:16):
I'm locked in a three fifty nine.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
How much again? What what is the presce you're going
to be paying three fifteen July?

Speaker 10 (17:23):
First, it's three fifty nine.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
That's a way, that's you know, so for next winter, Jim,
rather Tim, brilliant, just I did. Yeah, let me tell
you something I ever became president, you are going to
be on my board of Economic you might be the
Secretary of the Treasury with with foresight like that.

Speaker 10 (17:44):
I'm serious that that is you've got to take ahead
and absolutely what could mean that is my friends are
all upset at Israel. Yeah hoo for what he They
told him not to touch the l g or or
the oil refinery. If they didn't touch the oil, but
they destroyed the LNG.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
They're going to hit the oil to trust me on that, Jim.
That's why, Tim, that's why I think your your decision
is brilliant.

Speaker 10 (18:10):
They're not going to hit They could hit the oil,
of course they could.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
They're gonna do everything they can to cripple around. I
want you to know this, tim, as important as your
oil price is. I guarantee you net Yah, who is
not thinking about that. He's not saying he's and that's
why you locked it in. So basically, you out, you outstrategize,
net Yah. That's what's good about it. That's why I'm

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gonna think ahead.

Speaker 10 (18:34):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
If you don't think ahead, you're you're gonna You're gonna
be it's you're never gonna win. You gotta think ahead.

Speaker 10 (18:43):
There we no boots on the ground. Their army may
be big, but it's not well trained like Israel, so
they're not gonna be any of that. You know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Okay, well, look, I appreciate it.

Speaker 10 (18:52):
Fine, We're gonna be fine. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Well, that's good look coming from a guy that has
locked in his price. You said again, three point fifty
nine is long, isn't that?

Speaker 10 (19:00):
It's it's going to cost me three hundred and seventy
nine dollars to do that. But if we're well worth it, you.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Know what I mean, it's good move, good move, good move.
To appreciate you call. Have a great night, buddy. I
got to keep rolling here. Okay, Thanks you much, doctor.
Soon let me go next to Robert Is in Roxbury.
Robert want to get you in here before the break
at the bottom of the hour. How are you Robert o?

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Lizzen I got a couple of questions.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
One thing is, do you realize these are the Holy
War that the prediction in the Bible?

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Many people, I'm not a biblical scholar, but many people
perceive that the Bible is somewhat predictive.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
And then these these are what you're talking about. We
all know that the world started in that region of
the world. We know that not from we know it
from the Bible, but we also know it from all
the scientists that had started there. It didn't start in
the United States of America. And some have suggested that, yeah,
are you a are you a bibe?

Speaker 4 (20:05):
I'm a penny concert, Okay, So yeah, I know that
the world is coming to a close sooner or later.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well eventually. They say that the world could could continue
to spend for five billion more years, or five million
more years whatever. I think it's five maybe it's five billion,
I'm not sure. But we don't have to worry about that.
Can I just say one thing to you, Robin and
I want to say.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
This before you doing, I got to answer one more
questions that I wanted to ask. Whatever happened to Annie Ginsberg?

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I think Woo woo is broadcasting from heaven.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
Okay, what I was gonna rob it.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
What I was going to say was this, I am
not a Bible guy. I'm Roman chaffling. Well, I understand that,
and I understand that, but I want you to know
I have a immense amount of respect for people like
yourself who are about oh, are Biblically oriented. I just
wanted to say that in complete sincerita.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
One day he's going to ask you, why didn't you
listen to what I told you in the bank? In
my words, what you know, You're gonna make an account
for neglecting and not realizing that the Bible is the
only thing that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Well, I understand, I do understand your perspective, but I
got to tell you I probably got a lot to
account for beyond not reading the Bible as well as
I should. You know, the Bible was not the cathol
Church doesn't emphasize the Bible, as I'm sure you know.
And I happen to be born Roman Catholic. So if
I had been born into your family or into any

(21:47):
other family, I might have become, you know, very biblically oriented.
But I do, I do understand it. I wish I
understood it more.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
To be honest with you, let me ask you, isn't
only just one God?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
I agree with you no matter what you what label
you put on you, So you can be a pentecopter,
a presbytarian, Jehovah, whitness, Muslim, or all of that.

Speaker 9 (22:11):
God is not He's just God.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
I agree with you totally. And I think that I
know that there's many religions, uh, and I'm not the most.
I'm not a religious scholar either. I know a lot
about comparative religions. I think I know more than most people.
But there's only one person who created this little lord
where we're walking on today, Robert in my opinion. Okay,

(22:36):
so so we can agree on that. Hey, Robert, I
enjoyed your call. Have you called me before? Is this
your first time?

Speaker 10 (22:42):
Yep?

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yeah, no, I called it before.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Do me a favorite call more often? Okay? And I
and I appreciate I appreciate your calling, and I appreciate
your your Bible centric viewpoint. I think it's important that
we hear that viewpoints mean that honestly.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Thanks you have a blessed e mail and keep on
talking because you're very smart man.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Well I know about that, but I stand in awe
of people who who understand the Bible. And I mean
that honestly. I mean there's it's something I wish I
knew more of. Thank you, Robert. I appreciate it very much.
Never know I would not be opposed to that. Thank you, Robert,
Thank you my friend. Yeah, have a great night, Good night,

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take a break. I got some open lines here. Come on,
we're talking about We're talking war and peace. We're talking
about the future of this presidency, the future of the world.
That's what we're talking about tonight. Donald Trump. He's not
talking about dropping a nuclear weapon, but he's talking about
dropping a piece of ordnance that has never been utilized before,

(23:56):
and he has to deal with that decision. It's nice
to run for president. It's nice to have the White
House as as your home base. It's nice to have
people all around you. But there comes moments in time,
and one of those moments of time is approaching for
Donald Trump and I'd love to hear from some critics,

(24:17):
people who don't like Donald Trump. What advice would you
give him? The advice that I would give him is
I hope he makes the right decision. Six one seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. A couple lines there and six one seven,
nine three one ten thirty.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Coming back on Nightside, night Side with Dan Ray on
WBZ Boston's news radio. Night Side Fine with Dan Ray
on WBZ Boston's news radio.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
All right, well, thanks very much. Back to the call.
As we go, I'm gonna go to Patrick in Charles Town.
Patrick always has an interesting perspective. Hey Patrick, how are you?

Speaker 5 (24:55):
Hey?

Speaker 11 (24:56):
Hey Jed, how are you doing?

Speaker 2 (24:58):
I'm doing great. By the way, have you noticed women
don't call on issues of war and peace? Which I
don't understand Patrick.

Speaker 11 (25:05):
They're too busy celebrating the victory of Karen Reid.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
No no, no, no, no, no no no no, no,
no no no. I wish they would, because I think
that the female perspective is really important to this one.
This is a huge I can't think of a bigger
decision that President Trump is going to face.

Speaker 11 (25:24):
I think you meant it's huge. It's huge, But uh,
that's Trump, right, So uh he did, is it?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
You know?

Speaker 11 (25:32):
Something like it just seems like over and over and
over again, Israel dragged us into wars? Does it seem
like that to you?

Speaker 5 (25:40):
Well?

Speaker 2 (25:41):
What other war has Israel dragged this? Whoa whoa whoa?
What other war has Israel dragged us into?

Speaker 11 (25:46):
I definitely Iraq. Definitely Iraq. I mean we had we
had the whole pearl and efforts ahead of time to
encourage us. Oh, weapons of mass destruction is weapons of
master druption. This is an existential threat. We need to
take them out. Regime change, regime change, regime change. Yeah,

(26:06):
that regime change worked out really well for us, and
now they're calling out regime change in our rants. So
they want us to take out the leadership there or
replace him with the shara again.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Well, the funny thing about it was when George Bush
forty one was president, we had Iraq in Iran fighting
each other, which was the best of all worlds, and somehow,
some way we intruded into that melee, I mean that
was perfect. Iraq in Iran were just destroying one another.

(26:40):
That was the huge mistake that George Bush forty one made.
I don't think the problem is Israel. Patrick, I think
you know you and I look at Israel a little differently.
What take Israel out of the equation for a second.
Are you comfortable with Iran having and having a nuke
and a delivery system?

Speaker 11 (27:01):
No, and I'm not I'm not happy with Israel habit
it either. And as far as I'm concerned, they should
return the nuclear physile material that they stole from Apollo
from the United States Navy. Uh, they should return all
of it, don't you agree.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
I don't know that they stole anything from the US Navy.
I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Speaker 11 (27:22):
That's Almon, right, So that's uh, that's New mac Apollo
of Pennsylvania. So they got their nucle I don't.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Know what you're talking you know, I have no idea.
I have no idea what you're talking about. Mike. I'm
kind of comeback. I want to come back to my question.
Are you comfortable with Well, there's a difference between Israel.
I believe has had a bomb. They don't say they have,
but they've never used it. Iran is trying to get

(27:52):
a bomb. I believe that that the theocrats in Iran
would use it. Is what I'm saying, do you agree
with that?

Speaker 12 (28:00):
You do?

Speaker 11 (28:01):
I doubt it. I doubt it because because it will
mean it will mean assured destruction. So Israel will blow
them off the face of the map if they do so.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Oh now, okay, so you look, you look at the
guys who are Do you think the guys who are
the head of Iran are as rational the theocrats Patrick?
They think that if that if they go up and
smoke that that that they they're going to heaven and
meeting seventy two virgins at the gate.

Speaker 11 (28:31):
I just think that's what people who want us to
go to war are gonna tell us. They're gonna tell
us just like weapons of mass destruction with Iraq. They
want us to be stupid and fight the wars of
a foreign country on that.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
I look, I understand, I understand your point, and I
respect your opinion. I think this is just a little difference.
By the way, I'm not convinced that Hussein didn't have
weapons of mass destruction, uh and that those weapons of
mass destruction were moved into Syria. But that's that's an
argument for another night.

Speaker 11 (29:07):
But listen, I think that the thing Trump could do, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
What what should he do. If you were there with him,
tell me what you should he should do or not.

Speaker 11 (29:16):
What I would do is I would drag. I would
I would reverse the power relationship with Israel, and I
would drag them by the ear. I would show them
who's boss. Yes, ISRAELI lobby, we're your boss. And I
would tell I would tell them to come to the
negotiating table right away. And then I would tell Iran
to come to the negotiating table right away.

Speaker 9 (29:36):
I would not not.

Speaker 11 (29:38):
I would be like the three stooges. I would knock
their skulls together like Moe did with Larry and Curly.
And I would say, knock it off, the idiots, okay,
And I would make I ran allow inspections immediately, and
I would ask Israel to do the same. And I
would ask for a demilitarizement UH denuclearized Middle East and

(29:58):
assured by the United States. If if we're going to
have an ally and backup, because you have no problem
with us being allies with Israel, I just don't want
to find another war. So if we're going to support Israel,
we could say, hey, we'll have you back if that happens.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Okay, enough, Look, I disagree. I think you watched too
many Three Stooges store not enough. Well that's true too,
I mean, yeah, no, I get it. Uh yeah. Many
people don't realize how sophisticated the Three Stooges there were.
There were levels there, and I'm sure you're at a
deeper level than I.

Speaker 11 (30:31):
Anyway, I love them, I love I Just do you
want another war?

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Dan?

Speaker 11 (30:34):
Do you want another war?

Speaker 2 (30:35):
That's what No, I don't know. I don't but I
don't want Iran. I don't want a bunch of Muller's
theocrats who are who believe that their faith is tied
to the return of some uh someone, of their religious
leaders who I don't understand. Uh No, I'm very worried
about them having a nuclear weapon, just.

Speaker 11 (30:57):
As I would be worried.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
China and Russia understands mutual issue destruction. I get that.
I get that, okay, But I don't think Iran understands
that concept.

Speaker 11 (31:09):
To be honest, listen, I don't think most Israelis want
another war either, man. I don't think they do. I
don't think anybody wants another war. I think they just
want to live. They want to be peace and live
in peace.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
They think about how many rockets. Think about how many
rockets have been rained down on Israel.

Speaker 11 (31:25):
In the last Israel first Israel hit, the first Israel hit.
I ran first.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Who said who said the uh? Who said? The people
into Israel on October seventh. That's all sponsored by Iran.

Speaker 11 (31:42):
You know that although those are Palestinians who can't even
feed their children.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
Man, and.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
I think we have yeah, I think we've covered the waterfront.
Always great dear from you, that to one of my favorite.

Speaker 11 (31:56):
We will have peace. And I want peace for everybody that.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
You online and said, let's give piece a chance. I'm
with you on that. Thanks, Thanks Patrick, good night, all right?
I got Salin Los Angeles, I got Tim and Wooman.
I got a couple of open lines. Here we're talking
war and peace. We're talking nuclear annihilation. Come on, people,
wake up. Six one seven, two thirty six one seven, nine, three,
ten thirty. I so appreciate callers like Patrick who have

(32:24):
a point of view. I also appreciate everyone was called in.
This is not easy stuff we're talking about. And but
I've throwed the gauntlet down. I hope you'll pick the
gauntlet up. We're back on night side, right.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
After this, it's Night Side with Dan Ray. Hey, Damn
Boston's News Radio. You're on night Side with Dan Ray
on Youbzy Boston's news Radio.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
All right, I'm looking at a couple of open lines
six one, seven, four, ten, thirty. I have worked too
hard tonight for those lines to still be open. Let
me go to my friend Tim. Tim, Welcome, How are you, buddy, I'm.

Speaker 12 (33:05):
Good, thanks to taking my call.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Dan.

Speaker 12 (33:08):
I think with this thing with Iran in Israel, right,
we can't let Iran get a hold of a nuclear bomb.
They're gonna shoot it right at Israel. I think Donald
Trump he knows what he's doing and he's got guts,
and also Benjamin nettanyw who does too. And I think
Benjamin Nett and Yew who should maybe get no about

(33:29):
peace buys and what he's done over he is anyhow,
I don't I don't care what it takes. I ran,
canot get a nuclear bomb?

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, that's my That is my view on it. I
don't know that we have pressed every diplomatic button yet,
but I think I believe that that your bottom line
is that once I ran these people the government. I'm
not talking about the people of Iran. I have friends
of mine who are Iranian.

Speaker 12 (34:00):
Their government and other people.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
It's always the government. It's like it was Hitler in
World War Two. And these people are, in my opinion, demonic,
and they have assassinated political leaders around the world. I
believe that there's some indication that they were looking to
pop Trump. I'm not all that convinced that they weren't
behind one or both of the assassination attempts on Trump's life.

(34:26):
Last year, you had this kid in Pennsylvania, Butler, Pennsylvania.
Where did he get all the where withal in the direction?
Then you got the guy down in Florida. I wish
a lot of that stuff would just come out, and
I don't think it has come out, to be honest
with you. Trump may know more about it than we do.
He cannot personalize it. He has to do what is

(34:48):
in the best interest of the country. I hope he
does it what he believes is the best interest in
the country.

Speaker 12 (34:55):
Can I say something? And it was always a goverment.
Did you ever see the movie with Clint Eastwood and
it was the Indians were after the Calary was after
the Indians and and uh, they wouldn't talk to anyone
in the cavalry, and Clint Eastwood comes up right and
and talk to the chief, right, the Indian chief, and

(35:19):
anyhow he uh, Eastwood says to uh, you know, the
Indian guy says the government, and Eastwood goes like this,
it's the government they always started. He says, it's the government.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
I think Eastwood, by the way, that that he ascribed
to that philosophy on a personal basis. Hey, I gotta
let you run. I got to get a couple more
in here, buddy, Thanks so much. I know you're always
out there, and uh, stay.

Speaker 12 (35:49):
Throughout yourn not I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Stay cool for the next few days. You got you.

Speaker 12 (35:54):
Gotta called you today on your number, right seventy thirty three,
and then I left the message you got it.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
I haven't looked at my I spent a lot of
time today prepping tonight's show and trying to make sure
that my voice would hold out. And I'm almost at
the end here, Jim, but we're still going strong. Thanks buddy,
we'll talk soon. Thank you, Thank you much. Let me
go to Sally in Los Angeles. Hey, Sal, welcome, Hello sir,

(36:21):
how are you south. I think you've called before I believe,
is that correct?

Speaker 13 (36:26):
I have I have when when Trump was running for president.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yeah, no, I appreciate it. Freak great. Welcome back right ahead.

Speaker 13 (36:34):
So I've been watching Fox, have been watching Sky, have
been watching BBC. Supposedly he's going to make a decision
in two weeks. What does that mean? So the fleets
are going to show up in the Persian Gulf?

Speaker 10 (36:49):
Right?

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Oh? I think there's going to be a show, and
I believe. I think there's one carrier group that that
I heard yesterday was still in Virginia. So it's got
a you They're going to make a show of strength.
And I'm sure that Trump would love to get these
guys to negotiate, but I don't see that happening. I
really don't.

Speaker 13 (37:12):
And then they say he's not going to kill the MOLA,
but I mean, I mean, that's the government in Iran
right now.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
So what what he said on that, I think sal
is that he said that we know exactly where they're hiding.
They did wipe out some several nuclear scientists and also
several military leaders. Yeah, they did, you know, So what
would you tell them to do to.

Speaker 13 (37:38):
Drop a thirty thousand, thirty thousand solic it.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Bomb yep, big one.

Speaker 13 (37:46):
Do you think do you think you would do it?

Speaker 2 (37:49):
I think when once you start to threaten, there comes
a point in time when you're threatened, you almost have
to do it, you know. I mean, I just think
that I would hope that it doesn't come to that.
But it won't just be one bunkerbuster, by the way,
they will probably drop a series of bunker busters.

Speaker 13 (38:14):
But they're targeting, so it's not going to hurt civilians.
It's going to target what they want to target.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Oh yeah, they're not dropped. They're not dropping a bunc
robuster on the city of torn No, no, no, no, no,
absolutely not. The facilities are in the mountains, en hardened mountains,
deep underground, which is where Iran built them. And the

(38:43):
only way they can get him is to drop ordinance
of this size, as I understand it.

Speaker 13 (38:49):
Do you think people want to agree with that, to
drop ordinance to to satisfy the fact that they're going
to stop the nuclear threat.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
I think it. There'll be there'll be interesting sets of
reactions in this country. We the only time that this
country is united is when we are attacked on something
like nine to eleven. It's it's that's show, you know. So, Sally,
I want to sneak one more in here, do me
a favorite call more often? You ask great questions. I

(39:19):
know we've talked before. I saw your name and I
wanted to make sure I got you okay, Thank you,
Thank you, sir, welcome, Thanks for listening. Gonna wrap it up, Tom,
you just called to give give you about a minute,
Tom in.

Speaker 7 (39:31):
Yeah, all right, thanks Jan. I have no problem I
want I don't want any troops on the ground. I
don't I don't want to be order this outing the Mediterranean.
See you do what I mean. I just want them
to drop four to six bucker busts and bombs on
these targets and that's it. You ain't get out of there,
and that's we'll sue what happens after that, and that's nobody.

(39:51):
Nobody has to die, nobody, no killing. We'll see what
Isiel is going to do them? All right, that's it, all.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Right, you got in, You got it in late, but
you got it in. Thanks, Thank you. Tom. Appreciate your
callers always, whether we agree or disagree, Tom, I always
appreciate your directness. Thank you, appreciate it all right, what
do we look at a time here, buddy. Noah, Okay,
you're going to wrap it up for the night. I'm
not doing a postgame tonight for a couple of reasons,

(40:23):
one of which is my throat has kind of given
out on me. So I will see you tomorrow at
eight o five and no postgame. So please get some sleep.
I'm going to get some sleep. No a great job,
great job tonight. All dogs, all cats, all pets going
to heaven. That's why Pal Charlie ray Is, who passed
fifteen years ago in February, that's where all your pets

(40:43):
are who were passed. They loved you and you love them.
I do believe you'll see them again. We'll see again
tomorrow night. On nights side everyone, Uh, this was an
interesting night, interesting conversations. To the callers who called, Thank
you very much,
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