September 11, 2025 • 36 mins
Governor Healey called for all public schools to teach students about 9/11, as many of them today weren't around then. Dan is all on board. What do you think? Should it be mandatory?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Night's Eide with Dan Ray on WBS Costin's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
We're sort of following two stories tonight here at Night said,
I want to thank my friend Ron Gondet last hour,
sorry about that technical glitch that we had. But whenever
we run into a little bit of a problem and
I begin to think that there's a phone contact that
is deteriorating, it's better to bite the bullet and get
it fixed, as Rob was able to get it fixed
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for us for the final segment. So we're talking about
nine to eleven. I think it's important, very important to
talk about nine to eleven. We're also keeping our eye
on any developments on the Charlie Kirk story. There was
some sort of a news conference that the FBI just held,
but I don't think that there was any more information
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about the identity of this individual who clearly they think
as a well they're characterizing him as a person of interest,
but they're showing some videos of him jumping off the
roof of a building and then escape escaping, and I
think it's pretty clear that the impression that they're giving
is that this is the guy they want furely identifiable individual.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
The video that they have is pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Obviously, you know, all of us might know in our lives,
you know, a thousand people or something like that, who
you could identify and oh, yeah, that's my next door neighbor.
That's a guy I work with at the pizza shop.
So if someone out there basically sees this guy and
identifies him, I think that the FBI will be able,
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assuming that he's still in the country, and assuming that
he hasn't been able to get out of the country.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
He's had a lot of time he's had.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Now what's going on, what's getting close to thirty six hours,
But we're going to.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Talk about that.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
What I want to first of all do is to
bring you up to date on some of the comments
that were made today. And this is President Trump this
morning at the Pentagon. And it's so interesting. I did
not realize this that apparently they broke ground to build
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the Pentagon. Those of us who were born after World
War II just always thought the Pentagon existed. Well, they
broke round for the Pentagon, according to President Trump, eighty
years ago on nine to eleven, nineteen forty one. Well,
now it's what eighty eighty four years ago, nine to
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eleven nineteen forty one, September eleventh, and it was on
in effect, the eightieth birthday of the construction of a
breaking ground of the Pentagon, that the Pentagon was attacked
on nine to eleven, two thousand and one. And here
we are another, you know, twenty four years later. So
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it was it was, yeah, it was sixty years old
to the day, from the moment, not that it was dedicated,
but the moment that the construction began. So this is
President Trump, and I think that this is a SoundBite
that we should listen to. Cut number two.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Please Rob, Thank you, my fellow Americans.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Eighty four years ago this morning, the banks of the
Potomac were filled with the clamor of construction workers who
broke round on the building now known as the Pentagon
on September eleventh, nineteen forty one. At the time, it
was the biggest building ever built. From that moment forward,
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this structure stood as a monument to American strength, power,
and cherished American freedom. Exactly six decades later, on September eleventh,
two thousand and one, those same walls built with the
sweat and muscle blood of our parents and grandparents were
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scarred by flame and shaken by terror as our country
came face to face with pure evil.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
President Trump is not an orator.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Let's make that pretty clear. He's not an order. You know,
he doesn't have the oratorical skills of President former President Obama,
former President Clinton, or former President Reagan, who I would
argue was the the best orator of the presidents of
the last forty forty five years. But he does make
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some points and and I want us to listen to
the This is a two minute SoundBite, but he tells
the stories of individuals who contacted their relatives and their
family members in the moments before they died. And if
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you think about the situation they found themselves in, they
knew they were on planes that had been hijacked, they
knew that they probably were not going to survive these flights,
and they made these final phone calls to their loved
ones that the President is going to talk about here.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
And I just.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It is a long but it's very poignant. Two minutes
and three seconds. And if you put yourself in the
position of these people who found themselves trapped in steel cylinders,
flying to their knowing they were flying to their death,
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and they had a chance cell phones were relatively new
in two thousand and one. I mean, not everyone hit
a cell phone. And well, I want to let the
President basically provide you with this. This is cut number four, Rob,
and it's it's it's not necessarily what i'd call poetic,
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but it's poignant Cut four.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Amid the horror of that morning, some used cell phones
and office lines whisper their final words to those who
mattered most.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
They whispered. Indeed.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
At eight fifty nine AM aboard United Flight one seventy five,
Brian Sweeney called his wife Julie. He told her, do good,
go have good times. I totally love you. I'll see
you again. I'll meet you up there. Four minutes later,
his plane hit the South Tower of the World Trade Center.
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At nine to twelve AM, a board American Airlines Flight
seventy seven.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Rename May called her mom.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Just the day before, Renee had learned that she was
seven weeks pregnant, but she never got the chance to
share the news.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
She simply said, I love you, mom.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Twenty five minutes later, Renee's plane struck the Pentagon, so
violent a strike it was At nine fifty three AM
aboard United Flate ninety three, Elizabeth Wayneo called her step mom.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
They're getting ready to break into the cockpit. What do
I do? I love you so much. They're going to
break in.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Ten minutes later, Flight ninety three ended in the halloutfield
near Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
At ten twenty five am.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Tom McGinnis was trapped on the ninety second floor of
the North Tower and he told his wonderful wife Elena
on the phone, there are people jumping from the floors
above us. We get out of here, it'll be a
total miracle.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I love you, darling.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Take care of Caitlin, beautiful daughter. Three minutes later, the
tower fell.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, it's difficult to comprehend what those people had to
had to go through.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And the names.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I'm just going to share a little bit of Cut
number eighth. These these are the names that have been
read every year, and hopefully they'll be read forever. Cut
number eight Run Gordon and Emma.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
Julia miro About Denise, Brian Craig Bennett, Joseph m Kelen,
Mary Dontonio.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Albert Alfie, William Elmrie, Thomas James for Renown.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
Grace, Catherine Belante.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
Jeffrey Paike, Hardy, Alexander Valerovich, Ivanso.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Dennis M.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Johnson, Edward T.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Keene, Kun Mendeze, Jose Juan Marrero.
Speaker 9 (09:27):
Corter, Terence Noel, Michael c Operman, Rolin Pacheco, Christopher Clarkenbush, Daniel.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Rosetti, Dennis Skaalso, Rachel Tamaraz, Dianne Marie.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Urban, Damian Vacacia, Robert Francis Wallace, Donald MacArthur Young, Christopher R.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Zaba Junior.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
So just some of the names some of the nearly
three thousand Americans who died that day. When we get back,
I'm going to ask you a simple question, why is
the history of nine to eleven not taught mandatorily taught
in Massachusetts public schools? To her credit, Governor Healy has
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said today that she is going to advocate for the
teaching of the history of nine to eleven to in
all public schools, meaning high schools, in the junior year
in high school. My question is why did it take
so long? And also is that enough. It's one thing
for the governor to make a statement today as she did,
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and I congratulate her commander for it, but I think
that this needs to pass the legislature. And it needs
to become a law, and it needs to be signed
by the governor. And I would love to hear from
you if you agree with me. You know, when the
governor says I would like to see this, or I
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hope it's becomes a part of the curriculum. There's there's
no requirement there six one, seven, two, four ten thirty
six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. It is
nine eleven, twenty four years later. I want to spend
a few minutes talking about why why students who are
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high school juniors today, which means they're seventeen years old,
they never experienced nine to eleven. They were born several
years after two thousand and one. We've been asleep at
the switch. We need to make this happen, and we
need to make it happen legislatively with a gubernatorial signature.
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If you agree, please give me a call. If you disagree,
I don't understand why you would, but you give us
a call as well. Six one, seven, two, five, four
to ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Coming right back after this on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
As we mentioned a couple of nights ago. The history,
the unit of history of what happened on nine to
eleven and what it led to twenty.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Years of war is not taught on.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
A mandatory basis in every public school. There are fourteen
states where students are taught. Man, you know, it's part
of the curriculum. It is not part of the mandatory
curriculum here in Massachusetts. And by the way, those fourteen states,
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there are red states like New York, York, California, and
Maryland where nine to eleven is taught on a mandatory basis,
and there are blue states. Excuse me, there are blue
states like New York, California, and Maryland, and then red
states like Texas and some of the southern states in
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West Virginia. It just seems to me a no brainer
that this should be a part of every high school
student's education before they graduate. I also want to mention
that this morning I was watching the news early and
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ABC News early this morning did a special report on
President Trump speaking at the Pentagon.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
NBC News.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Did not, and no NBC News did as well. Let
me strike that NBC News the one network that did
not cut in with CBS and I say shame on
CBS for that. It doesn't matter who the president is
when the president speaks on nine to eleven, you know
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at the Pentagon.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
This should have been.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
ABC cut away from the Tamaron Hall Show to cover that,
NBC cut away from Jenna and Friends, and CBS stayed
with let's make a deal, big mistake, CBS. Let's go
to the phones here and see what people think about again.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Mandatory, not optional. Mandatory.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I kind of imagine that someone here in Massachusetts goes
to a public schools it graduates as a senior at
the age of eighteen and hasn't received a formal.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
History unit. Let me go to Sandy in Dover.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I'm assuming that's Dover, Massachusetts, but it could be Dover,
New Hampshire.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Sandy, which is it? How are you tonight?
Speaker 7 (15:15):
Or it could be Dover, Maryland.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
No, well, it could be Dover, Delaware. There's I know
there's a Dover in Delaware. But why don't you leave
us with the suspense? Normally, Rob will indicate Dover, mass
or Dover, New Hampshire.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Which is it? Sandy?
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Your high school down Dover, Massachusetts.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Dover, Massachusetts? Remember it? Well?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Okay, my kids high school team, Okay, go right in.
They didn't go to dovershourban high school. But that's neither
here nor there correct. What what is your thought on
this idea of a unit in history should be taught
to every high school junior in Massachusetts?
Speaker 7 (15:54):
Absolutely one should. Everybody should be made aware. Everybody should
be educated on what happened.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Why do you think it's not already mandated?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
When the four when there's fourteen other states, you know,
a different political stripe across the country. This is not
Democrat Republican thing at all, because you have big Democratic
states where their kids learn about nine to eleven, and
there are Republican states as well, and there are states
that are kind of mixed.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
But Massachusetts, where two of the four planes.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Flew out of you theoretically could go through a high
school education here and never hear the words nine to eleven.
Speaker 7 (16:44):
That that is unbelievable to me. It doesn't accurately describe
the situation that happen.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
And on nine to eleven, yeah, it just leaves it
leaves it as if it didn't.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
Happen, right, And you know, I don't want to stretch
where we're going here, but Sanctuary City blue City, whatever
it may be. I don't want to go there.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
But no, no, no, But this would be at the
state level, so in other words, it wouldn't be a
decision made by each city. I do have the list
of states, so you have these are the states where
it is taught. Alabama and Georgia, which are two southern states, Illinois,
which is a reliably democratic state, Indiana, which is kind
of a state that has sometimes Democrats some of the Republicans.
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Maryland is as blue a state as Massachusetts, Mississippi, Nebraska,
which are you know, I would say Republican states right.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Now, New York, which is New York. Then you have
Oaklan Home in South Carolina, Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Those are in Texas and Republican states, but Virginia and
West and then West Virginia, so it's a mixture. But
Massachusetts and the governor uh now is saying, is that
that that it should be required nine to eleven should
be required teaching in Massachusetts schools. But I don't know
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that the governor saying that or even ordering that has
the same impact as as a piece of legislation that
would pass the legislature and then signed be signed by
the governor.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
One, the first description that you gave is accurate. The
second one is completely accurate. It should be a mandatory,
if that's a correct should be part of American history. Yeah,
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it should be a piece of the Revolution, Jerry Ward,
the Civil War, World War one, World War two, nine
to eleven. It is a piece of it should be taught.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Sandy.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I appreciate your support, and hopefully the governor will do
whatever has to be done. Again, the reporting tonight is
that she has directed reading from a website of news
website WBZ News, which I believe is the TV station
which didn't carry the president today.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Healey said she's.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Directed education officials in the state to make sure that
nine to eleven is fully incorporated into school curriculum frameworks.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
That is the correct position, and hopefully it gets moved
forward to a mandate or whatever. Again the word yeah,
but it gets signed into it's a part of student curriculum.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
You got it, Sandy. I appreciate you taking the time
to call. I don't know if you've called before, but
please call more often. Okay, thank you, Thanks, Sandy. I
appreciate it very much.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Have a great night. Good night.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
All right, we're gonna take a very quick break. Here's
the news break at the bottom of the hour. We'll
come right back. I got a couple of open lines.
This is a simple question. Nobody, in my opinion, should
have any reason not for this to be part of
the curriculum, meaning mandatory, mandated UH as part of the curriculum.
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In my opinion, it is part of being an educated person,
particularly if you live in Massachusetts, from where two of
these planes, both planes that hit the World Trade Center,
came out of Massachusett, out of Logan Airport six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Coming right back on night Side.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
We go next to Mike in Plymouth. Hey, Mike, welcome
next on Nightside.
Speaker 10 (21:10):
Good evening, Dan, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
You're welcome.
Speaker 10 (21:16):
I absolutely as a Boston firefighter and someone that UH
attended several of the funerals down in New York, I
absolutely agree with you that this has to be taught.
This has to be out of the curriculum, not only
in Massachusetts the entire Oh.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Absolutely, but but we can impact Massachusetts. I had Pat
Bavis on the other night. Pat is with the Mass
nine eleven fund. He's also the brother of Mark Davis.
I'm one of the people who died played hockey at
b U and played professional hockey for several years, and.
Speaker 10 (21:53):
I just don't went to school of his relatives. Actually yeah,
he was a Rosie.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
He was they grew up in Rossie seem Yeah, and
went to see him, right and and Pat reminded me
that it hasn't hasn't been taught there. So my feeling is,
let's just get it done. But I want to make
sure and we're going to talk with the legislator in
just a moment. I think we have to make sure
this passes the legislature and is signed by the governor.
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It's all well and good that Governor Heally and I
and I commend her for doing this. Today she said
she's going to direct educational officials.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
To get this into the curriculum.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
But there's nothing, you know, anything that's like guidance or
suggestions or recommendations, anything short.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Of a statute, to me can easily go away.
Speaker 10 (22:40):
This is this is the petal harbor of the twenty
first century for this country. Then no question, I can't
imagine my grandkids not knowing about this. Uh, you know,
when when they come of age and it's time for
them to know it. They're all pretty young now, but
I can't imagine I'm growing up not knowing about this,
the sacrifice that was made not only by the people
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that died that day, but FDNY just have passed over
four hundred members that have died since working the pile
from cancer related in illnesses.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah, last hour we had.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
We had a pharmacyt from Massachusetts who was part of
a quick reaction medical team that went to nine to
eleven the very next day, and he was telling us
that out of his group who were there for eleven days,
just for eleven days, not that I mean eleven days
seemed like an eternity, but four of those folks, who
were medical professionals, have died early in their careers, which
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very well could have been the brief exposure. You know,
eleven days is more than brief, but the relatively brief
exposure to the to the chemicals that were in the
atmosphere and all of the particulates that they were breathing
in as well.
Speaker 10 (23:52):
Yeah, what else, YEA, I'm sorry, go ahead, just one
last thing, Dan. Not only should the event it self
be taught, but the way that the country unified and
came together after it is really needs to be remembered
as well, because where we are today is so far
away from where we worked twenty four years ago.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Oh, we saw that. We saw that in action yesterday
in Utah too. We still don't know what the motive
of the leven caught this guy yet, but let's find
out what his motive was. You know, it's funny you
probably know this, but last month, with the eightieth anniversary
of the end of World War Two nineteen forty five
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to twenty twenty five, did you see the only celebration
I saw that was the video we saw from China
where they had some sort of a victory end of
World War Two parade and they were parading Chinese military
hardware through Tianamen Square.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
There was no acknowledgment of that that I saw whatsoever.
Speaker 10 (24:55):
Yeah, that's a near and dear subject in my heart
as well. I called you once before a few months
ago until told you that I was at the beaches
in Normandy last summer. One of the highlights or low lights,
however you want to categorize it of a vacation I took.
It was extremely compelling and it was kind of shocking
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to me that there weren't more people there participating in
those tours. But what those the sacrifice those guys made
on the DDA Beaches is just something that should never
be forgotten either, and it was something very important for
me to see.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Well, you know, we as a country used to celebrate
something called VJ Day, and then that all sort of
went away and Rhode Island was the last state that
had victory over Japan Day. And I think political correctness
impacted that. And I think that political correctness also impacted
you know, two thousand and one, nine to eleven, because
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the fact of the matter is those were Islamic extremists.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
They weren't members of.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
The Irish, the IRA, they were Islamic experists. And I
think that there was a hesitation to talk about it
because some people were concerned about political correctness.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yea, I Mike, appreciate you call man, Thank you so much.
Speaker 10 (26:16):
Thank you, Dan, talk.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
To you soon, all right. I got to take a
quick break. I got Colleen. We'll get to Colleen.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
State Representative Colleen Gary from Draken Sally in Los Angeles
and Tim and Wilbern will join us. We'll be back
right and the only line open right now is six
one seven. I'd like to continue this if you want.
If not, we can segue to the latest on the
Charlie Kirk investigation. I'll tell you up until now and
I'm monitoring it, there has been no arrest, plenty of
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video now, plenty of pictures of the person who they
say is a subject of interest, which really means they
think this is the guy that pulled the trigger.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
We'll be back on nights Side right.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
After this Night Side with Dan Ray telling you Boston's
News radio.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Let me go next to State Representative Colleen Gary. She's
a Democrat from the town from drake It, but probably
represents more than just Drake at High Representative.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
How are you?
Speaker 8 (27:15):
Huh, Hi, Dan, how are you? I'm really glad you're
talking about this tonight. You know, I was at the
ceremonies this morning and drake It and Kingsboro where I represent,
and I actually the last the last caller was right
on I spoke about it. How that thinking about you know,
twenty four years ago this happened, and so many of
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the young children in our schools don't. We're not even
alive and don't know about what's going, what it is,
and it's just another holiday and they don't even get
the day off from school, you know. Captain John Alganowski,
the first person identified was a friend of mine here
from Drake It at American Airlines.
Speaker 11 (27:58):
Yeah, yeah, at eleven.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
Yeah, and so many from this area were on that.
Speaker 9 (28:05):
Somebody I was on the boy scout board with somebody
I met through the rais yond Bill, you know, there
were so many and.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Representative let me ask you a question, a technical question.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
The governor today said she's going to advise education officials
that she wants it as part of the formal curriculum.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
That's a great step.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
But in my opinion, the way to do it right
is to pass a piece of legislation that will be
signed by the governor and become a statute a law,
so that a subsequent governor or ten years from now
it might start to disappear from the curriculum.
Speaker 8 (28:42):
Well, I think the standards the department usually has the
rights to add and subtract, but I think you're right
to make it more permanent. It would be better to
have it in statute and believe me, I'd be glad
to file that and work with the rest of my colleague.
Speaker 11 (28:56):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Well, here's what I'm going to do. Here's what I'd
like to do. Representative. I'm going to ask you, and
I've known you for a long time and I know
you're a straight shooter, if you would file it on
behalf of me. I'm not a constituent, but I am
a citizen in Massachusetts and my listeners here on Night side,
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and we will follow the piece of legislation because you
and I both know that sometimes these legislation, these these
pieces of legislation sail through.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
This this is a no brainer. It should sail through quickly.
And if it does get.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Side stepped or sideswiped and sent to committee for further review,
I'd like if you do it, and it's your choice,
I guarantee you we will have you back on the
air when it's filed. We'll have you back on the
air when there's a committee hearing, and we will get
our audience to push their members of the Great General
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Court UH and the Governor to formally enact this as
a piece of legislation.
Speaker 8 (30:02):
I will work on it tomorrow morning. I think it's
vital that we do this.
Speaker 9 (30:07):
That old quote about those who don't remember the past
are condemned to repeat it, and you know where that
we see the world today, it's frightening, It really is frightening,
the divide between people.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
And I actually said that, let's remember where we all
were on the twelfth of September. The thirteenth of September,
we saw it around the Boston Marathon.
Speaker 11 (30:29):
We united, and.
Speaker 8 (30:31):
That's what is sorely missing from from our communities, from
our nation at this point, and it has to stop,
or you know, we could have a civil war. It's
it's just unbelievable to me. But I want to say that,
you know, I remember, I think the Nuerberg trial was
the last thing I learned in high school. And it
wasn't until I was sitting with some veterans of the
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Vietnam War after Memorial Day Parade that I learned about
what really happened and how one of the gentlemen's friend
had gone through three tours of Vietnam. And it wasn't
until he get off the plane and was walking across
a comac somebody threw acid in his eyes and he
was blinded and it was an American who did it
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to him. And so that's what we don't understand all
these things until we talked to people. I had a
Pearl Habit survivor, mister Champagne from drake it.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
That's why we have a.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
Pearl Hoby survival license plate right now. And you know,
to actually sit there and talk to him about what
happens on that infamous day.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Well, Jimmy, just do me the favor of keep us posted.
We'll have when you file it, we'll have you back on.
I promise we'll follow you every step of the way.
Fair enough.
Speaker 8 (31:43):
Well, with your help, we'll get it done.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
Absolutely well.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
It would never get done if we don't have someone
up with the legislature like you who follows it and
files it.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
So thanks Representative Representative Colleen Gary.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I've always been a fan of Representative Gary. She's a Democrat,
but i've been a fan of Representative Gary. I'm even
more one tonight. Thanks, thanks so much, Colleen. We'll talk soon.
Good night.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
All right, let's keep rolling here.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I got Mike, Mike, excuse me, Tim, Tim is next? Tim,
you are next on Nightsager Right ahead, Tim, You're there.
Let's go Tim and Wilburn. Okay, let's put Tim on hold.
We'll have to get back to him in the meantime.
Let me go to Sal in Los Angeles. Sal, you
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were next on Nightsager, right.
Speaker 11 (32:31):
Ahead, Hello, sir, Hi, so.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Hey.
Speaker 11 (32:36):
So I listen to all these representatives and they say
everything after fat and it's the larky sometimes. But I
was there at eleven. I was in New York, Okay,
so I'm from Boxton originally, and I was there in
the morning, seven o'clock in the morning, and I was
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working my job, and I see all these guys pointing,
you know, you know what it is when they're pointing
a building, yep, these guys working on the on the scaffolding.
I'm I don't know if I told you before I
talked to you before. I'm a broadcasting engineer. I'm a
broadcast engineer, so I work in TV and radio. So
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I'm there at seven am dealing with a new technology,
new microwave technology. And then I get there in the
morning and I see all these guys point you know,
looking over you know, on their phones. Cell phones weren't
what they were, you know in that day. Yeah, two
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thousand and one. There were flip phones or whatever they were.
But I look over and I see smoke in the
first building and I'm like, I don't know what the
hell that is. I thought it was I knew that
there's small airplanes lying across the Hudson, like everybody said,
and I thought it was a small airplane hit. And
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next thing, you know, just chaos happened. I was the
first I was a manager at the time at this network,
and they called me. They go, we have to we
have to get out of the building because our masks
control was out of Battery Park City, which is right
next to well Trade, and They're like, we need to
(34:25):
go Evergreen. I'm like, okay, let's go Evergreen. I was
the first one there, so I said, go Evergreen. And
you know, I just saw things happen. And we ended
up throwing camera cables on the roof where I was
in Chelsea, and and you know, we were throwing cameras
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up there because you know, you know what the deal is.
We threw cameras up there, and and people like calling us,
like ABC and New York One, and people want to
throw their cameras up there because it was a point
where they can, you know, get a view and perfect location. Unfortunately, yeah, yeah, unfortunately, Yeah,
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it was so real for me. Dude, I didn't I
I've never been involved in that kind of stuff. I mean,
my neighbors worked at World Trade and when I came back,
one of my neighbors came back in Soot. I mean
he he came back in Soot. And another neighbor up
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the street was from Uh he was. Funny thing is
his father in law was an a I G. Legal
and and and he he didn't he didn't don't there
that morning, So that was really weird.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Well, it's it's amazing that how fate, how fate interferes,
so fate interferes us because we we were out of
time this hour. I will I know you've called the
I want to hear from you more often. You've got
an interesting background. So thank you for tonight and look
forward to your next call.
Speaker 11 (36:06):
Okay, I thank you, sir.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Thanks al, have a great night. We'll take a break.
Those of you on the line, stay there, be happy
to talk with you on the other side of the
eleven o'clock news here on night side
It's Night's Eide with Dan Ray on WBS Costin's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
We're sort of following two stories tonight here at Night said,
I want to thank my friend Ron Gondet last hour,
sorry about that technical glitch that we had. But whenever
we run into a little bit of a problem and
I begin to think that there's a phone contact that
is deteriorating, it's better to bite the bullet and get
it fixed, as Rob was able to get it fixed
(00:28):
for us for the final segment. So we're talking about
nine to eleven. I think it's important, very important to
talk about nine to eleven. We're also keeping our eye
on any developments on the Charlie Kirk story. There was
some sort of a news conference that the FBI just held,
but I don't think that there was any more information
(00:49):
about the identity of this individual who clearly they think
as a well they're characterizing him as a person of interest,
but they're showing some videos of him jumping off the
roof of a building and then escape escaping, and I
think it's pretty clear that the impression that they're giving
is that this is the guy they want furely identifiable individual.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
The video that they have is pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Obviously, you know, all of us might know in our lives,
you know, a thousand people or something like that, who
you could identify and oh, yeah, that's my next door neighbor.
That's a guy I work with at the pizza shop.
So if someone out there basically sees this guy and
identifies him, I think that the FBI will be able,
(01:38):
assuming that he's still in the country, and assuming that
he hasn't been able to get out of the country.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
He's had a lot of time he's had.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Now what's going on, what's getting close to thirty six hours,
But we're going to.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Talk about that.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
What I want to first of all do is to
bring you up to date on some of the comments
that were made today. And this is President Trump this
morning at the Pentagon. And it's so interesting. I did
not realize this that apparently they broke ground to build
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the Pentagon. Those of us who were born after World
War II just always thought the Pentagon existed. Well, they
broke round for the Pentagon, according to President Trump, eighty
years ago on nine to eleven, nineteen forty one. Well,
now it's what eighty eighty four years ago, nine to
(02:41):
eleven nineteen forty one, September eleventh, and it was on
in effect, the eightieth birthday of the construction of a
breaking ground of the Pentagon, that the Pentagon was attacked
on nine to eleven, two thousand and one. And here
we are another, you know, twenty four years later. So
(03:03):
it was it was, yeah, it was sixty years old
to the day, from the moment, not that it was dedicated,
but the moment that the construction began. So this is
President Trump, and I think that this is a SoundBite
that we should listen to. Cut number two.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Please Rob, Thank you, my fellow Americans.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Eighty four years ago this morning, the banks of the
Potomac were filled with the clamor of construction workers who
broke round on the building now known as the Pentagon
on September eleventh, nineteen forty one. At the time, it
was the biggest building ever built. From that moment forward,
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this structure stood as a monument to American strength, power,
and cherished American freedom. Exactly six decades later, on September eleventh,
two thousand and one, those same walls built with the
sweat and muscle blood of our parents and grandparents were
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scarred by flame and shaken by terror as our country
came face to face with pure evil.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
President Trump is not an orator.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Let's make that pretty clear. He's not an order. You know,
he doesn't have the oratorical skills of President former President Obama,
former President Clinton, or former President Reagan, who I would
argue was the the best orator of the presidents of
the last forty forty five years. But he does make
(04:48):
some points and and I want us to listen to
the This is a two minute SoundBite, but he tells
the stories of individuals who contacted their relatives and their
family members in the moments before they died. And if
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you think about the situation they found themselves in, they
knew they were on planes that had been hijacked, they
knew that they probably were not going to survive these flights,
and they made these final phone calls to their loved
ones that the President is going to talk about here.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
And I just.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It is a long but it's very poignant. Two minutes
and three seconds. And if you put yourself in the
position of these people who found themselves trapped in steel cylinders,
flying to their knowing they were flying to their death,
(05:57):
and they had a chance cell phones were relatively new
in two thousand and one. I mean, not everyone hit
a cell phone. And well, I want to let the
President basically provide you with this. This is cut number four, Rob,
and it's it's it's not necessarily what i'd call poetic,
(06:17):
but it's poignant Cut four.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Amid the horror of that morning, some used cell phones
and office lines whisper their final words to those who
mattered most.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
They whispered. Indeed.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
At eight fifty nine AM aboard United Flight one seventy five,
Brian Sweeney called his wife Julie. He told her, do good,
go have good times. I totally love you. I'll see
you again. I'll meet you up there. Four minutes later,
his plane hit the South Tower of the World Trade Center.
(06:54):
At nine to twelve AM, a board American Airlines Flight
seventy seven.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Rename May called her mom.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Just the day before, Renee had learned that she was
seven weeks pregnant, but she never got the chance to
share the news.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
She simply said, I love you, mom.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Twenty five minutes later, Renee's plane struck the Pentagon, so
violent a strike it was At nine fifty three AM
aboard United Flate ninety three, Elizabeth Wayneo called her step mom.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
They're getting ready to break into the cockpit. What do
I do? I love you so much. They're going to
break in.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Ten minutes later, Flight ninety three ended in the halloutfield
near Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
At ten twenty five am.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Tom McGinnis was trapped on the ninety second floor of
the North Tower and he told his wonderful wife Elena
on the phone, there are people jumping from the floors
above us. We get out of here, it'll be a
total miracle.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I love you, darling.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Take care of Caitlin, beautiful daughter. Three minutes later, the
tower fell.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, it's difficult to comprehend what those people had to
had to go through.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And the names.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I'm just going to share a little bit of Cut
number eighth. These these are the names that have been
read every year, and hopefully they'll be read forever. Cut
number eight Run Gordon and Emma.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
Julia miro About Denise, Brian Craig Bennett, Joseph m Kelen,
Mary Dontonio.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Albert Alfie, William Elmrie, Thomas James for Renown.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
Grace, Catherine Belante.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
Jeffrey Paike, Hardy, Alexander Valerovich, Ivanso.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Dennis M.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Johnson, Edward T.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Keene, Kun Mendeze, Jose Juan Marrero.
Speaker 9 (09:27):
Corter, Terence Noel, Michael c Operman, Rolin Pacheco, Christopher Clarkenbush, Daniel.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Rosetti, Dennis Skaalso, Rachel Tamaraz, Dianne Marie.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Urban, Damian Vacacia, Robert Francis Wallace, Donald MacArthur Young, Christopher R.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Zaba Junior.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
So just some of the names some of the nearly
three thousand Americans who died that day. When we get back,
I'm going to ask you a simple question, why is
the history of nine to eleven not taught mandatorily taught
in Massachusetts public schools? To her credit, Governor Healy has
(10:22):
said today that she is going to advocate for the
teaching of the history of nine to eleven to in
all public schools, meaning high schools, in the junior year
in high school. My question is why did it take
so long? And also is that enough. It's one thing
for the governor to make a statement today as she did,
(10:44):
and I congratulate her commander for it, but I think
that this needs to pass the legislature. And it needs
to become a law, and it needs to be signed
by the governor. And I would love to hear from
you if you agree with me. You know, when the
governor says I would like to see this, or I
(11:06):
hope it's becomes a part of the curriculum. There's there's
no requirement there six one, seven, two, four ten thirty
six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. It is
nine eleven, twenty four years later. I want to spend
a few minutes talking about why why students who are
(11:31):
high school juniors today, which means they're seventeen years old,
they never experienced nine to eleven. They were born several
years after two thousand and one. We've been asleep at
the switch. We need to make this happen, and we
need to make it happen legislatively with a gubernatorial signature.
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If you agree, please give me a call. If you disagree,
I don't understand why you would, but you give us
a call as well. Six one, seven, two, five, four
to ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Coming right back after this on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
As we mentioned a couple of nights ago. The history,
the unit of history of what happened on nine to
eleven and what it led to twenty.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Years of war is not taught on.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
A mandatory basis in every public school. There are fourteen
states where students are taught. Man, you know, it's part
of the curriculum. It is not part of the mandatory
curriculum here in Massachusetts. And by the way, those fourteen states,
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there are red states like New York, York, California, and
Maryland where nine to eleven is taught on a mandatory basis,
and there are blue states. Excuse me, there are blue
states like New York, California, and Maryland, and then red
states like Texas and some of the southern states in
(13:20):
West Virginia. It just seems to me a no brainer
that this should be a part of every high school
student's education before they graduate. I also want to mention
that this morning I was watching the news early and
(13:41):
ABC News early this morning did a special report on
President Trump speaking at the Pentagon.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
NBC News.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Did not, and no NBC News did as well. Let
me strike that NBC News the one network that did
not cut in with CBS and I say shame on
CBS for that. It doesn't matter who the president is
when the president speaks on nine to eleven, you know
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at the Pentagon.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
This should have been.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
ABC cut away from the Tamaron Hall Show to cover that,
NBC cut away from Jenna and Friends, and CBS stayed
with let's make a deal, big mistake, CBS. Let's go
to the phones here and see what people think about again.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Mandatory, not optional. Mandatory.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I kind of imagine that someone here in Massachusetts goes
to a public schools it graduates as a senior at
the age of eighteen and hasn't received a formal.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
History unit. Let me go to Sandy in Dover.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I'm assuming that's Dover, Massachusetts, but it could be Dover,
New Hampshire.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Sandy, which is it? How are you tonight?
Speaker 7 (15:15):
Or it could be Dover, Maryland.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
No, well, it could be Dover, Delaware. There's I know
there's a Dover in Delaware. But why don't you leave
us with the suspense? Normally, Rob will indicate Dover, mass
or Dover, New Hampshire.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Which is it? Sandy?
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Your high school down Dover, Massachusetts.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Dover, Massachusetts? Remember it? Well?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Okay, my kids high school team, Okay, go right in.
They didn't go to dovershourban high school. But that's neither
here nor there correct. What what is your thought on
this idea of a unit in history should be taught
to every high school junior in Massachusetts?
Speaker 7 (15:54):
Absolutely one should. Everybody should be made aware. Everybody should
be educated on what happened.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Why do you think it's not already mandated?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
When the four when there's fourteen other states, you know,
a different political stripe across the country. This is not
Democrat Republican thing at all, because you have big Democratic
states where their kids learn about nine to eleven, and
there are Republican states as well, and there are states
that are kind of mixed.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
But Massachusetts, where two of the four planes.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Flew out of you theoretically could go through a high
school education here and never hear the words nine to eleven.
Speaker 7 (16:44):
That that is unbelievable to me. It doesn't accurately describe
the situation that happen.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
And on nine to eleven, yeah, it just leaves it
leaves it as if it didn't.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
Happen, right, And you know, I don't want to stretch
where we're going here, but Sanctuary City blue City, whatever
it may be. I don't want to go there.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
But no, no, no, But this would be at the
state level, so in other words, it wouldn't be a
decision made by each city. I do have the list
of states, so you have these are the states where
it is taught. Alabama and Georgia, which are two southern states, Illinois,
which is a reliably democratic state, Indiana, which is kind
of a state that has sometimes Democrats some of the Republicans.
(17:45):
Maryland is as blue a state as Massachusetts, Mississippi, Nebraska,
which are you know, I would say Republican states right.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Now, New York, which is New York. Then you have
Oaklan Home in South Carolina, Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Those are in Texas and Republican states, but Virginia and
West and then West Virginia, so it's a mixture. But
Massachusetts and the governor uh now is saying, is that
that that it should be required nine to eleven should
be required teaching in Massachusetts schools. But I don't know
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that the governor saying that or even ordering that has
the same impact as as a piece of legislation that
would pass the legislature and then signed be signed by
the governor.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
One, the first description that you gave is accurate. The
second one is completely accurate. It should be a mandatory,
if that's a correct should be part of American history. Yeah,
(18:57):
it should be a piece of the Revolution, Jerry Ward,
the Civil War, World War one, World War two, nine
to eleven. It is a piece of it should be taught.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Sandy.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I appreciate your support, and hopefully the governor will do
whatever has to be done. Again, the reporting tonight is
that she has directed reading from a website of news
website WBZ News, which I believe is the TV station
which didn't carry the president today.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Healey said she's.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Directed education officials in the state to make sure that
nine to eleven is fully incorporated into school curriculum frameworks.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
That is the correct position, and hopefully it gets moved
forward to a mandate or whatever. Again the word yeah,
but it gets signed into it's a part of student curriculum.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
You got it, Sandy. I appreciate you taking the time
to call. I don't know if you've called before, but
please call more often. Okay, thank you, Thanks, Sandy. I
appreciate it very much.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Have a great night. Good night.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
All right, we're gonna take a very quick break. Here's
the news break at the bottom of the hour. We'll
come right back. I got a couple of open lines.
This is a simple question. Nobody, in my opinion, should
have any reason not for this to be part of
the curriculum, meaning mandatory, mandated UH as part of the curriculum.
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In my opinion, it is part of being an educated person,
particularly if you live in Massachusetts, from where two of
these planes, both planes that hit the World Trade Center,
came out of Massachusett, out of Logan Airport six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Coming right back on night Side.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
We go next to Mike in Plymouth. Hey, Mike, welcome
next on Nightside.
Speaker 10 (21:10):
Good evening, Dan, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
You're welcome.
Speaker 10 (21:16):
I absolutely as a Boston firefighter and someone that UH
attended several of the funerals down in New York, I
absolutely agree with you that this has to be taught.
This has to be out of the curriculum, not only
in Massachusetts the entire Oh.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Absolutely, but but we can impact Massachusetts. I had Pat
Bavis on the other night. Pat is with the Mass
nine eleven fund. He's also the brother of Mark Davis.
I'm one of the people who died played hockey at
b U and played professional hockey for several years, and.
Speaker 10 (21:53):
I just don't went to school of his relatives. Actually yeah,
he was a Rosie.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
He was they grew up in Rossie seem Yeah, and
went to see him, right and and Pat reminded me
that it hasn't hasn't been taught there. So my feeling is,
let's just get it done. But I want to make
sure and we're going to talk with the legislator in
just a moment. I think we have to make sure
this passes the legislature and is signed by the governor.
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It's all well and good that Governor Heally and I
and I commend her for doing this. Today she said
she's going to direct educational officials.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
To get this into the curriculum.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
But there's nothing, you know, anything that's like guidance or
suggestions or recommendations, anything short.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Of a statute, to me can easily go away.
Speaker 10 (22:40):
This is this is the petal harbor of the twenty
first century for this country. Then no question, I can't
imagine my grandkids not knowing about this. Uh, you know,
when when they come of age and it's time for
them to know it. They're all pretty young now, but
I can't imagine I'm growing up not knowing about this,
the sacrifice that was made not only by the people
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that died that day, but FDNY just have passed over
four hundred members that have died since working the pile
from cancer related in illnesses.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah, last hour we had.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
We had a pharmacyt from Massachusetts who was part of
a quick reaction medical team that went to nine to
eleven the very next day, and he was telling us
that out of his group who were there for eleven days,
just for eleven days, not that I mean eleven days
seemed like an eternity, but four of those folks, who
were medical professionals, have died early in their careers, which
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very well could have been the brief exposure. You know,
eleven days is more than brief, but the relatively brief
exposure to the to the chemicals that were in the
atmosphere and all of the particulates that they were breathing
in as well.
Speaker 10 (23:52):
Yeah, what else, YEA, I'm sorry, go ahead, just one
last thing, Dan. Not only should the event it self
be taught, but the way that the country unified and
came together after it is really needs to be remembered
as well, because where we are today is so far
away from where we worked twenty four years ago.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Oh, we saw that. We saw that in action yesterday
in Utah too. We still don't know what the motive
of the leven caught this guy yet, but let's find
out what his motive was. You know, it's funny you
probably know this, but last month, with the eightieth anniversary
of the end of World War Two nineteen forty five
(24:34):
to twenty twenty five, did you see the only celebration
I saw that was the video we saw from China
where they had some sort of a victory end of
World War Two parade and they were parading Chinese military
hardware through Tianamen Square.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
There was no acknowledgment of that that I saw whatsoever.
Speaker 10 (24:55):
Yeah, that's a near and dear subject in my heart
as well. I called you once before a few months
ago until told you that I was at the beaches
in Normandy last summer. One of the highlights or low lights,
however you want to categorize it of a vacation I took.
It was extremely compelling and it was kind of shocking
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to me that there weren't more people there participating in
those tours. But what those the sacrifice those guys made
on the DDA Beaches is just something that should never
be forgotten either, and it was something very important for
me to see.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Well, you know, we as a country used to celebrate
something called VJ Day, and then that all sort of
went away and Rhode Island was the last state that
had victory over Japan Day. And I think political correctness
impacted that. And I think that political correctness also impacted
you know, two thousand and one, nine to eleven, because
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the fact of the matter is those were Islamic extremists.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
They weren't members of.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
The Irish, the IRA, they were Islamic experists. And I
think that there was a hesitation to talk about it
because some people were concerned about political correctness.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yea, I Mike, appreciate you call man, Thank you so much.
Speaker 10 (26:16):
Thank you, Dan, talk.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
To you soon, all right. I got to take a
quick break. I got Colleen. We'll get to Colleen.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
State Representative Colleen Gary from Draken Sally in Los Angeles
and Tim and Wilbern will join us. We'll be back
right and the only line open right now is six
one seven. I'd like to continue this if you want.
If not, we can segue to the latest on the
Charlie Kirk investigation. I'll tell you up until now and
I'm monitoring it, there has been no arrest, plenty of
(26:44):
video now, plenty of pictures of the person who they
say is a subject of interest, which really means they
think this is the guy that pulled the trigger.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
We'll be back on nights Side right.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
After this Night Side with Dan Ray telling you Boston's
News radio.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Let me go next to State Representative Colleen Gary. She's
a Democrat from the town from drake It, but probably
represents more than just Drake at High Representative.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
How are you?
Speaker 8 (27:15):
Huh, Hi, Dan, how are you? I'm really glad you're
talking about this tonight. You know, I was at the
ceremonies this morning and drake It and Kingsboro where I represent,
and I actually the last the last caller was right
on I spoke about it. How that thinking about you know,
twenty four years ago this happened, and so many of
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the young children in our schools don't. We're not even
alive and don't know about what's going, what it is,
and it's just another holiday and they don't even get
the day off from school, you know. Captain John Alganowski,
the first person identified was a friend of mine here
from Drake It at American Airlines.
Speaker 11 (27:58):
Yeah, yeah, at eleven.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
Yeah, and so many from this area were on that.
Speaker 9 (28:05):
Somebody I was on the boy scout board with somebody
I met through the rais yond Bill, you know, there
were so many and.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Representative let me ask you a question, a technical question.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
The governor today said she's going to advise education officials
that she wants it as part of the formal curriculum.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
That's a great step.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
But in my opinion, the way to do it right
is to pass a piece of legislation that will be
signed by the governor and become a statute a law,
so that a subsequent governor or ten years from now
it might start to disappear from the curriculum.
Speaker 8 (28:42):
Well, I think the standards the department usually has the
rights to add and subtract, but I think you're right
to make it more permanent. It would be better to
have it in statute and believe me, I'd be glad
to file that and work with the rest of my colleague.
Speaker 11 (28:56):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Well, here's what I'm going to do. Here's what I'd
like to do. Representative. I'm going to ask you, and
I've known you for a long time and I know
you're a straight shooter, if you would file it on
behalf of me. I'm not a constituent, but I am
a citizen in Massachusetts and my listeners here on Night side,
(29:17):
and we will follow the piece of legislation because you
and I both know that sometimes these legislation, these these
pieces of legislation sail through.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
This this is a no brainer. It should sail through quickly.
And if it does get.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Side stepped or sideswiped and sent to committee for further review,
I'd like if you do it, and it's your choice,
I guarantee you we will have you back on the
air when it's filed. We'll have you back on the
air when there's a committee hearing, and we will get
our audience to push their members of the Great General
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Court UH and the Governor to formally enact this as
a piece of legislation.
Speaker 8 (30:02):
I will work on it tomorrow morning. I think it's
vital that we do this.
Speaker 9 (30:07):
That old quote about those who don't remember the past
are condemned to repeat it, and you know where that
we see the world today, it's frightening, It really is frightening,
the divide between people.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
And I actually said that, let's remember where we all
were on the twelfth of September. The thirteenth of September,
we saw it around the Boston Marathon.
Speaker 11 (30:29):
We united, and.
Speaker 8 (30:31):
That's what is sorely missing from from our communities, from
our nation at this point, and it has to stop,
or you know, we could have a civil war. It's
it's just unbelievable to me. But I want to say that,
you know, I remember, I think the Nuerberg trial was
the last thing I learned in high school. And it
wasn't until I was sitting with some veterans of the
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Vietnam War after Memorial Day Parade that I learned about
what really happened and how one of the gentlemen's friend
had gone through three tours of Vietnam. And it wasn't
until he get off the plane and was walking across
a comac somebody threw acid in his eyes and he
was blinded and it was an American who did it
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to him. And so that's what we don't understand all
these things until we talked to people. I had a
Pearl Habit survivor, mister Champagne from drake it.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
That's why we have a.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
Pearl Hoby survival license plate right now. And you know,
to actually sit there and talk to him about what
happens on that infamous day.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Well, Jimmy, just do me the favor of keep us posted.
We'll have when you file it, we'll have you back on.
I promise we'll follow you every step of the way.
Fair enough.
Speaker 8 (31:43):
Well, with your help, we'll get it done.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
Absolutely well.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
It would never get done if we don't have someone
up with the legislature like you who follows it and
files it.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
So thanks Representative Representative Colleen Gary.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I've always been a fan of Representative Gary. She's a Democrat,
but i've been a fan of Representative Gary. I'm even
more one tonight. Thanks, thanks so much, Colleen. We'll talk soon.
Good night.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
All right, let's keep rolling here.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I got Mike, Mike, excuse me, Tim, Tim is next? Tim,
you are next on Nightsager Right ahead, Tim, You're there.
Let's go Tim and Wilburn. Okay, let's put Tim on hold.
We'll have to get back to him in the meantime.
Let me go to Sal in Los Angeles. Sal, you
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were next on Nightsager, right.
Speaker 11 (32:31):
Ahead, Hello, sir, Hi, so.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Hey.
Speaker 11 (32:36):
So I listen to all these representatives and they say
everything after fat and it's the larky sometimes. But I
was there at eleven. I was in New York, Okay,
so I'm from Boxton originally, and I was there in
the morning, seven o'clock in the morning, and I was
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working my job, and I see all these guys pointing,
you know, you know what it is when they're pointing
a building, yep, these guys working on the on the scaffolding.
I'm I don't know if I told you before I
talked to you before. I'm a broadcasting engineer. I'm a
broadcast engineer, so I work in TV and radio. So
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I'm there at seven am dealing with a new technology,
new microwave technology. And then I get there in the
morning and I see all these guys point you know,
looking over you know, on their phones. Cell phones weren't
what they were, you know in that day. Yeah, two
(33:42):
thousand and one. There were flip phones or whatever they were.
But I look over and I see smoke in the
first building and I'm like, I don't know what the
hell that is. I thought it was I knew that
there's small airplanes lying across the Hudson, like everybody said,
and I thought it was a small airplane hit. And
(34:04):
next thing, you know, just chaos happened. I was the
first I was a manager at the time at this network,
and they called me. They go, we have to we
have to get out of the building because our masks
control was out of Battery Park City, which is right
next to well Trade, and They're like, we need to
(34:25):
go Evergreen. I'm like, okay, let's go Evergreen. I was
the first one there, so I said, go Evergreen. And
you know, I just saw things happen. And we ended
up throwing camera cables on the roof where I was
in Chelsea, and and you know, we were throwing cameras
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up there because you know, you know what the deal is.
We threw cameras up there, and and people like calling us,
like ABC and New York One, and people want to
throw their cameras up there because it was a point
where they can, you know, get a view and perfect location. Unfortunately, yeah, yeah, unfortunately, Yeah,
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it was so real for me. Dude, I didn't I
I've never been involved in that kind of stuff. I mean,
my neighbors worked at World Trade and when I came back,
one of my neighbors came back in Soot. I mean
he he came back in Soot. And another neighbor up
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the street was from Uh he was. Funny thing is
his father in law was an a I G. Legal
and and and he he didn't he didn't don't there
that morning, So that was really weird.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Well, it's it's amazing that how fate, how fate interferes,
so fate interferes us because we we were out of
time this hour. I will I know you've called the
I want to hear from you more often. You've got
an interesting background. So thank you for tonight and look
forward to your next call.
Speaker 11 (36:06):
Okay, I thank you, sir.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Thanks al, have a great night. We'll take a break.
Those of you on the line, stay there, be happy
to talk with you on the other side of the
eleven o'clock news here on night side
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