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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's night, Signed with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's
Niece Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
As promised, I'm holding over Jim from Guilford, New Hampshire,
who is not very happy with the comments made today
by Vice President Vince. Jim, let me give you a
chance to respond directly to one of his comments.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Here.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Just listen to this and then get your response. You
said that he was pretty insensitive to the death of
this woman who lost her life yesterday. This cut thirty one,
Troy thirty one.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
When I was.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Actually walking out here, somebody sent me a photo of
a CNN headline about what happened in Minneapolis, and this
is the headline. I'm just going to read it, outrage
after ice officer kills US citizen in Minneapolis. Well, that's
one way to put it, and that is the way
that many people in the corporate media have put this
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attack over the last twenty four hours. And I say
attack very very intentionally, because this was an attack on
federal law enforcement. This was an attack on law and order,
This was an attack on the American people. The way
that the media by and large has reported this story
has been an absolute disgrace, and it puts our law
enforcement officers at risk every single day. What that headline
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leaves out is the fact that that very off ice
officer nearly had his life ended dragged by a car
six months ago, thirty three stitches in his legs. So
you think maybe he's a little bit sensitive about somebody
ramming him with an automobile. What that headline leaves out
is that that woman was there to interfere with a
legitimate law enforcement operation in the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
So, Jim, you you can react to what the vice
president headed. You give you the chance to react to
what the vice president had to say.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Go right ahead, Yeah, I mean what I don't like
about politics in general, and one of the reasons I've
gotten away from it is that I, like I said,
I voted for Trump, but I generally agree. But if
I see something that pretty obvious to me, So what
so what if she gota, she drove away, and maybe
one gets away, you know, maybe she gets away and
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she continues her stillingness with her protesters and all that,
and she does some bad things. So she gets away,
but she doesn't deserve to get shot three times and
one of them hit her. She grives off the roads.
You get two cars.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
It's gone.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
I mean, that's the whole thing. Me and my wife
both both voted for Trump. We watched every video. Nothing.
She did not deserve to get shot. I'm sorry, advanced,
don't be.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Sorry that that's your opinion. You express it well, oh
thank you.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
You know, And what happened to this guy, this ice
agent and past incidents has nothing to do with this cident.
He maybe he should, you know, have taken a leave
of absence. But the lady was driving away and she's
getting shot at. I don't know. I just like I said,
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I see him as I call him, and I don't
like the way they struck them at wagons like the
Republicans automatic. I wouldn't even be refreshing to hear a
Republican in power say, you know, maybe that lady shouldn't
regret shot, and a Democrat to say, you know, poor
Charlie Kirk, that's terrible, what an awful tragivey has wife
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and kids. And wouldn't that be refreshing?
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Very very much so. And I think we have divided
ourselves into into two camps. And what I'm trying to
do here is give people an opportunity to to say
what they want to say. If they say something that
is factually incorrect, I'll try to you know, you know,
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not challenge him, but I will try to say the
record straight. And tonight we've had some really interesting conversations
from both sides in this issue. I'm not keeping score,
but I think it's been fairly evenly split. And I'm
proud of my audience tonight for the points that they
raised in the in the manner in which they raised them.
And and you're you're one of them tonight who have
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done have really done a service. You've You've presented yourself
so well. I just hope you become a regular caller.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Well, thank you. I am a regular listener. It's a
great show.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, you've contributed to it tonight. I hope you contribute
more often on this or any other topic. Thanks to you.
I appreciate your calling. All right, let's keep rolling. You're
going to go to Bill in Pennsylvania. Bill, your next
on Nightside.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Go right ahead, Yeah, welcome back, Dan, Thanks.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Bill, appreciate it. Glad to be back. Happy new year.
Go right ahead.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
Is uh is Minneapolis? Now that's where George Floyd?
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
What that that tragedy was at.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
And better fact, I heard that guy I heard today.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
Floyd, Uh, Kyle Rittenhouse. I remember this Kyle Rittenhouse kid?
Was that in Minneapolis?
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Too down?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
No, no, no, no, let me let me just roll
this back a little bit minus. Thinking is that this
shooting yesterday took place about a mile from where George
Floyd lost his life when that police officer in Minneapolis
kept his knee on George Floyd's neck for about eleven
minutes while he was telling him he couldn't breathe. In
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terms of the Writtenhouse kid, I believe that he that
that occurred in Wisconsin. And I want to I want
to say, uh, Washika, Wisconsin. But I can look it
up here.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
Okay, you're right, you're right, yep, yep, Wisconsin. You should
refresh to my memory. So remember when that when that
Written House kid, Uh, all the media everybody said, oh,
he's he's uh you know, a guilty, guilty, guilty. He
went to he went to a trial of his tears
and they they uh, they let him off.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
He was acquitted.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Yeah, acquit it.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Well, Well, there's a better example if you if you
look into to talk about uh he was it was
it was not. It was Kenosha, Wisconsin. Kenosha, Wisconsin. Okay,
but Wisconsin. If you think about there was the guy
in the New York who ended up uh uh being
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charged with the murder of the guy of the fellow
in New York who had threatened people and was acting strangely.
And this young guy, I think his name was Daniel.
It was his first name. I think it might have
been Kelly, but I'm not sure.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
Daniel.
Speaker 8 (06:39):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Okay, yeah, okay, well, okay, who who put the guy
in a headlock? And he expired? Uh and he was
acquitted as well. So there's another example.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
Okay, okay, But Dan, I think for your for your audience,
if you've got a chance, if you just explain to
these people, okay, explain to us, all right. For months
and months and months when Obama was letting these mean
just one caravan after the next caravan after next caravan,
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and it just kept going on and on, two hundred thousand,
five hundred whatever it was, I kept saying to myself,
why are they doing this?
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Why are they Well it wasn't like that, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Look, first of all, by the way, the marine was
in New York. Was Daniel penny, So everybody should be
able to talk about that. Look, I think that President
Obama actually, uh it deported he was. There were people
on the left who really didn't like him, and they
called him the deporter in chief.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
It was.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I don't think the border was really just thrown wide
open until Biden and my Orcas were in charge of
the border. I think there were people who came across
when Bush was president, people came across when Obama was president,
people came across while Trump was president in his first term.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
Well, person I heard, yeah, the only person I heard
that actually explained that dan was that senator from Louisiana, Kennedy,
John Kennedy Is. He explained it. He explained it the
first time that I had ever heard it when he
said that they let all those people in Okay, you
have sanctuary states, sanctuary cities, they come in, they go
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to these places and they're counted for uh for representation.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yes they are, Yes, they are. They are counted for
congressional representation.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Correct, And that's insane.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Well, you got to change you got to change the law,
got to chase the law, the count That was.
Speaker 7 (08:43):
The first time I heard that, and I thought, well,
why would they do that.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Well, he's accurate because if you can uh inject a
lot of people whose mere presence will increase the number
of congressional districts. Congressional districts are divided, it up based
upon census, based on your population, right, And so they were,
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and as people get deported, now that that may have
an impact on the next major census, which will occur
in twenty thirty.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
So there were let me get a.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
Listen. Uh, my final point would be it kind of
had a brainstall here.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, so you forgot your final point. That means break
your final point. Next time you call Bill, I gotta
let you go. Thanks me break, thanks, talk to you,
good night, Happy New Year. Take a break only one.
Well that line filled immediately. Phones are very hot today.
Coming back on night Side.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Next up, Jeff in Abington, Jeff, Happy.
Speaker 9 (09:55):
New Year, Every New Year. You know, this forma is
going to become a matter for the left, and everybody's
going to know her name, but nobody will ever know
Ashley Babbitt, who was killed by a black Capitol police
officer who was.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
On Let me ask you this, what does the The
first of all, no one's been convicted for Ashley Babbitt,
but I know that the individual who was suspected of
killing him. What does his race have to do with.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Let's not get into this.
Speaker 10 (10:27):
If you don't know, I'm not going.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
To explain it.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well, I have no idea where you're going with this.
I mean, there was she was killed, that's correct, but
I'm not talking about that tonight. We're talking. We're talking
about what's going on in Minneapolis.
Speaker 9 (10:41):
We're talking about the difference of when somebody in the
right eyes and when somebody in the left eyes. Okay,
let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Do people know Charlie Kirk's name?
Speaker 9 (10:51):
Yeah, well they couldn't hide that. Your corrupt mainstream media couldn't.
Speaker 10 (10:56):
Hide that one.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Okay, what what's your thoughts? We're talking about Minneapolis and
the reaction, and I know where you're coming from.
Speaker 9 (11:06):
And I don't have me dan because you don't like
what I say, because the stuff that you don't know
that I know.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Well, first of all, I'm always willing to hang up
on you, Jeff, and have you walked the plank if
if you don't want to engage in a conversation now
I'm giving you the opportunity to say what you want
to say. I'm all ears, go ahead.
Speaker 10 (11:27):
This woman had how many children?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I've heard it reported that she leaves a wife and
one child, and I heard another report that said three children.
So I'm trying to be as accurate as I can.
We'll eventually, we'll find.
Speaker 9 (11:44):
Out the vehicle did not have Minnesota plates on it
had Missouri plates on it.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Okay, fair enough, fair enough, if you tell me that,
I will accept that. Go ahead.
Speaker 11 (11:55):
What was she doing there?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
My understanding is that she recently moved to Minnesota. I
heard that reported tonight. That's only my understanding. I can't
tell you where she lived previously, but I suspect that
there will be many in depth profiles on how she
happened to be on that street that day yesterday. My understanding,
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there's been reporting that suggested that she might have been
involved in some form of fashion in the protest. The
position of her car across the street suggests to me
that she was attempting to block some form of traffic,
whether it was ice or some or just I don't know.
I don't think she was a suburban mom who drove
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into a situation and was confused and didn't know what
was going on. That's my point.
Speaker 9 (12:46):
Okay, does she have a job. Why wasn't she taking
care of her kids?
Speaker 10 (12:53):
Why wasn't she at her job?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I don't know. Maybe she went out to go grocery shopping.
I don't know that.
Speaker 9 (12:58):
I don't know that a professional advocator, and I don't
know that.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
How do you know that.
Speaker 11 (13:06):
Because of her history?
Speaker 9 (13:08):
I mean, still lesbians, still lesbians?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
What the hell does that have.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
To do with anything.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Let's go to the plane, goodnight, Jeff, Here we go,
Here we go, Jeff. Let me go to Mike and Plymouth.
He ca'd help himself. Hey, Mike, how are you good?
Speaker 10 (13:27):
Dan?
Speaker 12 (13:27):
How are you tonight?
Speaker 11 (13:28):
Thanks?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I'm doing my call. I'm doing great, right ahead.
Speaker 12 (13:31):
Great, Really looking forward to jumping in on this one.
Speaker 10 (13:34):
Dah.
Speaker 12 (13:34):
I see a couple of parallels here to a local
tragedy that happened here fifteen years ago. You might know
where I'm going with this, and I'm specifically I'm thinking
about the DJ Henry case. I know that you were
heavily involved in that.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Dad on the show, Dad, his mom.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
His grandfather. That was a in my opinion, a completely
unjustified killing that made no sense in any way you
look at it.
Speaker 10 (14:04):
I agree with you.
Speaker 12 (14:06):
I'm a little sketchy on the facts on that one
because it happened fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I'll tell you. Let me just tell you the facts, Okay.
DJ grew up in Easton, his parents, great friends. He
was going to Pace University, which is in New York.
Speaker 12 (14:28):
I remember that, I remember university.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yes, he played a football game. He was played a
football game, and it was he and some of his
teammates went out. He was the designated driver. When the
night ended, he went to get the car. He was
parked in a so called fire lane. One police officer
asked him politely and respectfully to move, which DJ complied
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with that he was moving like at three or four
or five miles an hour. A play close officer from
a totally different jurisdiction jumped on the hood of the
car and fired into the had killed killed DJ for
no apparent whatsoever.
Speaker 12 (15:12):
I couldn't remember what the what the final outcome of
the investigation, what happened.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
No, he was never exonerated, he was never charged. They
reviewed the the UH, the the local authorities in New
York did not bring uh an allegation against him at
the moment that he jumped on the hood of the
car and fired shots through the windshield, killing DJ Henry.
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Another police officer thought that this the cop that had
jumped on the hood of a car, was some sort
of a gangbanger, and he fired a shot at the
cop on the hood of the car and actually hit
the cop at the hood of the car. Eventually, the
cop who killed DJ Henry was given some is like
Police Officer of the Year. It was disgusting, I.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Do remember it was.
Speaker 12 (16:06):
It was a very bad situation, a tragedy that never
should have happened. And I haven't taken a position on
this one in Minneapolis yet. I've been looking at the
video and I got into the discussion a little late tonight,
so I apologize I didn't hear your position on it.
But I do know one thing. It's a terrible tragedy
that never should have happened, and there's a couple of
ways that could have been prevented. One way is that
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the woman could have stopped and gotten out of the.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Car after that, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 12 (16:33):
I think another way it could have happened is if
the officer there trying to use a little more restraint.
I don't know if that was appropriate or not, but
it's a either way, it's a tragedy that could have
been prevented by both parties, and it's a tragedy that
had happened at all.
Speaker 10 (16:48):
I feel for the.
Speaker 12 (16:50):
Fact that this woman's you know, uh uh, you know,
left a child out there that's going to be an orphan.
But at the same time, I don't know what she
was doing there.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, but by the way, but by the way, the
child will not the child well, first of all, I've
heard reports there was one child, and another reports said
there were three children. She has a wife, so the
child will not be an orphan in the in the
classic orphan since she was not a single mom. That's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 12 (17:15):
It did appear, it didn't appear to me, Dan that
she wasn't trying to hit the officer. She was trying
to get away. She was trying to not be arrested.
That's what I think she was trying to do, get
out of there without getting pulled out of the car
to be arrested. Now, should she have been arrested, I
don't know. It sounds like she probably should have because
she was obstructing, you know, legal ice operation. But whether
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the officer was justified in shooting her, because I guess.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Both of those things. But I think both of those
things that you talk about simultaneously could be true. The
officer could have turned and said, I'm not going to
kill her. We got her license plate number or whatever, uh,
or she could have if she had any respectfu law enforcement,
whether whether she felt the command was justified or not,
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she could have gotten out of the car and complied
and then dealt with whatever the consequences were of getting
out of the car.
Speaker 10 (18:07):
But I think that they to me that she got it.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I'm sorry, no, I'm just.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I just want to know more facts. I want to know.
Was was she someone who just got confused? You know,
you turn down the street the wrong street, and you realize,
oh my god, there's some sort of in the summertime,
you turn down the street and you say, my god,
I'm driving into a into a festival. I didn't realize
there was there's a band in the middle of the street.
And what do you do. You back up as carefully
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as you can if you get a three point turning,
and get the hell out of there. I don't think
that was the situation, but I'm not certain of it.
Speaker 12 (18:41):
I don't either. I think she was trying not to
get arrested. That's what I think she was doing. I heard,
I heard the cop tell her to get out of
the car. She clearly did not do that. She refused
a lawful order to get out of the car. And
then I think she was trying her wheels, would turned
to the right, trying to get out of that street
and get away without the officer firing a shot at her,
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and unfortunately she didn't make it.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I'm sure if she knew that the other officer was
gonna fire, she would have at that point got anybody
in their right mind would have gone. I'm sure she figured,
oh I can turn get by this guy and I'm
home free. But clearly, all right, we.
Speaker 12 (19:18):
See it similarly supporter by the way Trump support here.
But I'm a little trouble by what I saw on
the video.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
All right. Yes, it's a horrible tragedy, as you said earlier,
No matter what, Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
That's the bottom line.
Speaker 12 (19:31):
She shouldn't have died. It shouldn't have happened and could
have prevented by both sides.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Look, this is not your first time calling, so please
keep calling my program.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
You very you got a rational cars.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Thank you so much. We'll take a quick break here.
We're just at the bottom of the hours. It's eleven
twenty nine. I got who's coming up next? I got
Alex John is up? No Alex, John, Joe and Chloe h.
There were no lines open right now, so don't dial
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are taking care of your phone calls in the booth Tonight.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Back to the phones we go. Let me go to
Alex and Milli's first of all, Alex, I want to
wish you a happy New Year. And number two, thank
you very much for the family Christmas card that you
sent me. You have a welcome, good looking family as
well as apollow the dog.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Oh thank you. Well.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I guess I'm blessed.
Speaker 13 (20:34):
I'm living the American.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Dream with a beautiful family and a beautiful dog. I
would absolutely agree with you, my friend, than you.
Speaker 13 (20:44):
I was gonna say I'm a Trump supporter, but I
feel bad in this case. What happened, but it's kind
of like the saying goes bringing a bazooka to a
knife fight. There would have been other ways to handle this.
I'm not sure that you know, you know what this
woman was thinking. I know when I took my driver's
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d I was always told to respect and obey whatever
a police officer tells you, and you know that usually
you know if they give you in order to obey it.
So I don't know what she was thinking. It's a tragedy.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
She lost her life over this, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I mean it is, obviously, that's that's good advice. I
wish that she had taken it. I don't know what
her mindset was. I don't know what the officer's mindset was.
We'll never know what her mindset was. The only thing
we can find out potentially is, well, you know what,
what were the circumstances that brought her to where she was?
What had she done? I've heard some stories which until
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I they're confirmed, I'm not going to talk about them
on the air. It's as simple as that. I mean,
if I don't think from what I've read that she was,
you know, a mom who was out in the afternoon
taking her child to school, or dropping her child off,
or or picking up groceries, and she just turned the
wrong way and found herself in the middle of this
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this this craziness. But we'll see, I mean, that will
all come out right.
Speaker 13 (22:14):
I was just curious, do you think that, uh, you know,
ice officers are usually more aggressive than a regular police officer.
Would be no disrespect, but it just they come across
as more like, you know, if you were to great
police officers. You've got the local, you've got the state police,
and then you've got you know, so they're like, you know,
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really really more aggressive than others. I don't know if
that's if you feel, well.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I think that what they're dealing with, they are out
right now. I mean, the you know, most police officers,
if they're doing a traffic stop or if they're responding
to a call for assistance, they're you know, they're adrenaline
can start to flow because obviously they don't know what
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they're approaching. But you could have a situation here, and
I think it's conceivable that these officers were dealing with
a lot that afternoon, because wherever they have gone, they've
been greeted by protests. Often encouraged by local officials, whether
it's here in Boston or in Minneapolis. They don't get
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cooperation in some of those states, in some of those
cities from local police makes their job more difficult, and
maybe they are with a higher on alert attitude, and
maybe they're not looking, they're not assuming that most people
are going to cooperate. I think it's conceivable that they
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are being asked to do something which never should have occurred.
We never should have had twenty million people coming over
the border and not knowing where they are, because there
are dangerous people in this country. That's not to say
that all twenty million of dangerous. Probably there's one or
two million who have criminal records or belonged to gangs,
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and they know that that when they when they come
across someone like that, if they you know, they came
across for example that we've all seen the video of
the woman from Toughs University was arrested. You know, she
didn't she didn't react as she she surrendered herself. She
she was surrounded. That was not a dangerous arrest, but
some of the places they've gone into could be potentially dangerous.
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I agree.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
Yeah, Well, anyway, Alex thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Give give Apollo a pet for me tonight. Okay, I will.
Speaker 13 (24:35):
He's he's sleeping, uh with pause up on the bed
and he hogs the bed.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
So I'm familiar with that, that that behavior.
Speaker 10 (24:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I have my daughter has a Corgi mustard who behaves
in a very similar fashion.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Once on the bed, they assert themselves, even as even
when they were asleep. Thanks Alex, thank you, by thank
you much. Bye bye, let me go next. Joseph in,
Joseph and Lynn, Joe and Lynn, Hey Joe, welcome back,
Happy New Year.
Speaker 11 (25:07):
Thank you. I'm doing the best I can, and as
you know, I can't. I didn't see that. But if
she was turning her wheels to the right, I think
I was talking to my friend and Brighton about this
earlier on one of the chat lines. They could have
used restraints. Now her partner, I heard on the news.
I don't know how true this is. Her partner had
her do this. If this is true, that's wrong too.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
But you know, what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
What do you mean by her partner? If she has
a partner of her a wife?
Speaker 11 (25:39):
Yes, sorry, no, no, that's fine, I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I have no problem with that. But what I'm saying,
how could could anyone make someone when you say make
or do what? Make or do what? Ignore the police request.
Speaker 11 (25:52):
Or get into the protest? She said. They said on
the news earlier that this may be premature or wrong.
She talked her into doing it. If this is true,
that's wrong. I don't know what she was doing there,
but if the wheels did and I heard some of
your callers, I have mixed feelings on Trump, as you know,
some things I agree somebody don't. If he was turning
the wheels to the right, then I don't think she
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should have been killed. Maybe they could have knocked the
tires out or somebody if if he was going to
the police, I don't know, but it's a shame for
all sides. And I remember that case you talked about
years ago, that that was a horrible case.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
He DJ Henry case. Yep, the DJ Henry case.
Speaker 11 (26:32):
Yes, yes, and it's a shame. But I just wanted
to touch base on that and doing the best I can.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Always. Great to talk with you in Happy New Year, Joseph.
Speaker 11 (26:42):
Okay, Well, thank you very much. The same here, bye bye,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Let's keep rolling here. All of a sudden I got
a couple of open lines, one at six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty and one at six one seven nine three
Up next. John is in Stoneham, Massachusetts. John, I was
in Stoneham yesterday. How are you, sir, beautiful city community?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I mean, well, Dan, thank you. What were you doing
in Stonehem?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I had a little at lunch with my friend doctor
Al Frankie, and I had a proto therapy shot which
I periodically receive.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I heard stone made the news today. They're talking about
the winter packing bands in Stoneham.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
How little little lafe for a winter parking band. I
think we're a month into winter. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Every year they have it from December first till April first,
and you cannot pack overnight on the street even if
it's sixty degrees out during the time zone. They'll give
you a ticket, which is crazy.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
That's another revenue source for the city. What for the
town of Stoneum?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
So what do you?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
And yeah, so what do you? What do you think?
You've been following the conversations.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yeah, right ahead, I have. And it's a tragedy. It's
it's a total, total tragedy. I feel for the officers involved,
I really do what I feel for the lady that
watched her life. But in my opinion, I've seen videos
where a tie was spinning like she was on ice
like guy in it. We see videos, but you really
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don't hear it. You don't feel it. You don't hear
that engine, you know, revving, and people talk about the
you know, Kyle was turning to the right, But if
you're standing in front of a vehicle and the engine
is running and it's heading towards you, they're not looking
at the tires to see if it's turned to the right.
I honestly, I honestly believe the cop thought, you know,
his life was in danger and he had they had
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to stop the threat.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Well, again, you have to look at his experience how
he has been. My understanding was he was dragged six
months ago, also in Minnesota, in Minneapolis, I believe he's
based in Minneapolish and he suffered some serious leg injuries
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that included thirty three stitches. Thirty three stitches and if
itself is not you know, something that's critical. However, depending
upon infections and things like that. You know, we need
to get the entire picture. We need to get the
entire picture before all of us gonna have instincts and
you can. I feel it was a huge mistake in
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that situation, particularly if she injected herself into that situation
not to have complied with the request.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I believe the politicians have to turn down the rhetoric.
It's on both sides. It's really way too much.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Well, the other thing is I quoted earlier, there's a
US Supreme Court decision which I continue to reference, which
was from twenty twelve, which essentially said that the federal
government pre empts the states on immigration law. We cannot
have different immigration enforcement in fifty different.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
States, of course, and I'm all for the ICE actions.
I agree they should be arresting and removing these people
from the country. I am a supporter of Trump, and
I am a support of law enforcement. You know, the
situation in Minnesota was a complete tragedy. But nobody deserves
to die. But ye may should have put usself in
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that situation.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, I think that's the consensus of my callers tonight,
and it's to me it's gratifying that so many people
from different points of view have kind of come to
to the same viewpoint here. I think this has been
a very successful program. Tonight, and I hope that it
has set the tone for a talk on Night Side
for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I hope so too. But I hate to say it
as well. I'm you know, I'm on the right side
of the politics. Have you heard any people on the
left discussion about this situation?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yes, yeah, we've had We've had people on both sides.
I am to the right of center. I am a conservative,
you know that. But at the same time, you try
to look at every situation and you try to be
as as objective as you can be in a lot
of people have been objective tonight. There have been people
who have called who said that they were not supportive
of Donald Trump, but they are supportive of police. Uh
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they're different perspectives here. So but but I think most
of the calls tonight, we've only had two people planked tonight,
Jeff and Abington and and uh my friend Bob and
Rhode Island. They are now tied for the league lead
for each of them have been planked once in our
first show, and they have all but both of them
have been planked before. Most calls tonight have been very
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articulate and very reasonable.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
You included you can't. You can't forget that the officer
had a split second to make a decision.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
That's another thing.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Well, you know he didn't have time, you know, the
all Monday morning quarterback. Now. But like I said, you
didn't hear that enginey Revin. You can't see the wheels
turning left or right. You're in front of a vehicle.
It's it's coming towards you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Again, one of the things I think, Yeah, one of
the things I think is that he was not directly
in front of the vehicle. He was to the left
side of the front of the of the which allowed
him to escape. If he hadn't, he would have been hit.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
So but we don't know. I mean, he didn't know
if the wheels would turn to the left, right, or center.
He was the vehicle. No, that's funny, split second of
a decision. He had to make a quick decision whether
or not.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
All I'm just saying is thank god he wasn't in
front of the vehicle, because he whichever way it went,
he was standing right in front of the vehicle. If
he was twenty five feet in front of the vehicle, yeah,
he could potentially get out of the way. So we'll
talk more on it. John. This is your first time
or have you called before?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
No, that's my first time.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Well I had. I didn't recognize your voice, and you
are now about the fifth first time called it tonight.
Who gets an applause? Thank you so much, John, Please
great call, come on back soon. Okay, thank you?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
All right, keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I promise I will as long as there are people
out there like you listening.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
God Bless America.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
God Bless America. That's something we should all agree on.
I don't know if everybody say that. I will say
it and you will as well.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Thank you, sir, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Good I to you. Coming back on Night's I got four.
We're gonna get him all in close. See David and Bob.
We'll be back on night Side right after this.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
We've had full lines all night and now I just
got to pick the pace up a little bit to
get everybody in Chloe and Michigan. Chloe, welcome back next
on Nightside.
Speaker 10 (33:19):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 14 (33:21):
I've been almost to day to day, so I've been
watching off and on, and earlier I had seen part
of the footage and in the background, this lady is yelling,
you killed my neighbor. You killed my neighbor.
Speaker 10 (33:37):
That was part of it.
Speaker 14 (33:39):
And then tonight on CNN there was a real concise,
well detailed I thought of it, where they had had
still pictures second by second, Yes, and it was like
seven seconds.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
It's what this was.
Speaker 14 (33:57):
And she had set there earlier, and she well, I
don't know for how long. They said that she had
dropped her son off at school. I don't know if
that's true. She's been married before her husband died, they'd
had two children, and now she has the female partner.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
But the those stills.
Speaker 14 (34:21):
That you can definitely see the front tire, the left
tire has turned, you know completely that she's turning.
Speaker 8 (34:29):
And then.
Speaker 14 (34:31):
I think, I'm not sure how long she was alive
before she hit all the cars down.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Not long, not long, I mean she I think she was.
I read that she was struck in the head.
Speaker 14 (34:44):
And doesn't know how many bullets.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
Yeah, well we fired, but.
Speaker 14 (34:53):
Yeah, she had stopped to let another car go through,
and that's when they that's when the ice guys got
out and came ordered her. And I mean, and being
a woman, I had taken off to. I don't care
why I was there, the language they were using, and
the because she'd had a window down. You know, I'm
pretty sure it was down.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Okay, all right in the car. Thank you for your observations.
I wish I could give you a little more time,
but I've got four calls.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
It's fine.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Behind you, Chloe, call more often. I know that you
call occasionally, but I'd love to have you become more
regular of a caller in Michigan.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Okay, thank you, Okay, well, I love your show.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Thanks Chloe. Happy New Year. Let's go next to Steven Attleborough. Steve,
you're a veteran. Call. Had got to be quick for me, buddy,
Go ahead, you got it.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Happy New Year, Dan, thanks for taking the call. My
biggest concern. I agree with many of your callers and
you on this. It didn't have to happen. It could
have been avoided if she complied with law enforcement. I
also agree with JB Vice President Vance on this, and
I think it's so add that and one of your
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also your previous callers also mentioned that the media really
and also politicians need to really toned down the rhetoric
on this, because now what's gonna happen is they're gonna
keep pushing and pushing this like the Ice agents are
all Nazis. They're bad people. They need to be stopped.
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And then you're gonna get copycats from this who are
gonna want to die as martyrs and try to challenge
the police and rep their cars in front of them
or try to run them over. Let's face it, the
car is a weapon.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
There's no question the car, A shot foot can be
a dangerous weapon, so certainly a car can be as well. Steve,
I got your sense of it. I know you waited
a long time, but I'm just trying to get a
couple more in here before the night is over.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Do it, do your thing, night talking with you. We'll
talk with your next topic.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Their call more often, Call more often, buddy, appreciate it.
Thank you a great caller. Thank you much. David is
in JP. David, your your little gotta be a little
tight for me.
Speaker 10 (37:01):
Here, go ahead, Dan, real quick, Dan, before it gets
into the narrative in the echo chamber. Her name was
Renee Nicole Good.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (37:11):
She was a woman that did not deserve to die.
She got whipped into a frenzy with I don't know
what she was thinking. I know twenty or more police
officers with at least ten years of service, so that's
two hundred years of service. And they have told me
every person that follows orders goes home safely. It's that simple.
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That's her name is Renee Nicole Good, who had a
life and got whipped into some kind of frenzy. Hey,
we were born America was born on fighting kierranny with beliefs.
But when your beliefs are fighting long standing law, please
go home and let it be handled by people that
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know what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Thank you, Dan, Well, said David. Thank you appreciate it
very much. Let's go next to Bob and Rain and
Bob we are getting tired of.
Speaker 12 (38:02):
Go ahead, okay, hey Dan, happy new year back.
Speaker 15 (38:08):
I'd just like to say that none of this needs
to be happening right now, and the only reason that's
happening is because of the invasion that occurred, you know,
in the previous four years. And it's funny that the
same outrage wasn't taken and there weren't any protests when
a beautiful, one young woman in Georgia was murdered when
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she went out for a walk.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
That's the girl, Yeah, the girl who went for the jog,
the nursing Ye.
Speaker 15 (38:40):
In the same out The same outrage wasn't there as
it is now. And that's because at that point that
happened in the Biden's watch, and now this has happened
and none of the Trump's watch, and anything they can
do to destroy Trump they will do. But none of
this has to happen, needs to be happening, and it's
all because of Biden.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
All Right, you got it in. You're called late. I'm
going to clip you here because I want to get
one more in. But I thank you so much, your
regular caller, Happy New Year, look forward to your next call.
Thank you, Thank you, Jim and hide Park Jim. Yeah,
I gotta be quick, go ahead.
Speaker 8 (39:20):
Hi Dad. I enjoy your program and I always enjoy
your program. And this tragedy has happened in Minnesota ending
around the country is tracked. But I do believe that
America is smart enough to come to grips and let
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people that are in authorities handled. If not, I believe,
in my opinion, other nations are looking at us and
this makes us vulnerable to them while we are signing
against each other.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Breath you Moore well, said Wisdom in that comment, Jim,
you have not disappointed, that's for sure. Thank you so much,
Thanks Jim. All Right, what I got left here, Bob,
give me a Rob, give me a quick time. Marco
and Wooster. I'll give you ten seconds. If you want
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to put an exclamation point on it, go.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Ahead, Hi, Dan.
Speaker 6 (40:23):
So, I just want to say one thing. We know
at this point that she was turning the whale.
Speaker 7 (40:28):
And driving away, maybe because we have seen multiple videos
and pictures from all deeper angles. A police officer front
of two feet from the vehicles. He doesn't know. That's
a fair enough.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Fair enough, Marco, you got a call early. I tried
to give you ten, I gave you twenty, and I'm
out of time. Thanks Marco, good night. All right. I
want to thank Rob Brooks, I want to thank Marie,
and I want to thank Troy cone Sea. I know
I blew that, Troy, but I tried. All right. I'll
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all end as always, all dogs, all cats, all pets
go to heaven. And that's why Pal Charlie ray Is,
who passed fifteen years ago in February, that's why your
pets are a past. They loved you. You love them.
You'll see them begin to see again tomorrow night. On
Night's side, it's a great show tonight thanks to the callers.
I'll see on Facebook in a couple of minutes