October 10, 2025 • 40 mins
If you thought President Trump was a shoo-in to win the Nobel Peace Prize this year, think again! This year's Noble Peace Prize went to Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Machado, despite Trump's recent involvement in a peace deal between Israel and Hamas, putting a stop to the 2-year war between the warring groups. Many supporters of Trump and those involved with the peace deal believe Trump was snubbed...but was he? Maybe it was just the timing of the voting period as a peace deal with Israel and Hamas just happened within the last day or so. Is it possible Trump may win next year's Nobel Peace Prize? What are your thoughts on the selection?
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You might find an interest. That's the same principle. It's
the same principle. Okay, we're going to change topics here
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and we're going to talk about the Nobel Peace Prize today.
Maria Corina Machado of Venezuela was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Now,
for those of you who do not know Maria Corina Mashado,
and I'm sure that most of my audience knows the
name Donald Trump much better than the name Maria Karina Mashado.
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She is the opposition leader in Venezuela to the President
of Venezuela, Meduro Nicholas Meduro. Meduro is basically running a dictatorship.
The Trump administration has put a fifty million dollars bounty
on Madeiro's head, so he's got to be looking over
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his shoulder. And so the award of this Nobel Peace
Prize to the woman who is leading the fight against Meduro,
Maria Karina Maschado, is a good award in my opinion. Okay, However, however,
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I think that the Nobel Committee Prize they do prizes
in literature and medicine as well as the best known
as the Nobel Peace Prize. They have made some I
think ridiculous awards over the years. The most ridiculous was
the one they gave to Barack President Obama in early
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two thousand and nine for some reason his before he
had served as president for any more than a few weeks.
I don't understand why that was given. I certainly can
understand why the award was given today to this woman
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in Venezuela, who, by the way, when she accepted the award,
very graciously said, we are on the threshold of victory,
and today, more than ever, we count on President Trump,
the people of the United States, the peoples of Latin America,
and the democratic nations of the world as our principal
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allies to achieve freedom and democracy. As I mentioned, this
is an article out of the Washington Post. Trump has
been highly critical of Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro, for whom
the administration is offering a fifty million dollar reward for
information leading to his arrest. Maduro was indicted in the
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United States for narco terrorism during the first Trump administration.
So this woman is an ally philosophically of the Trump administration,
and she was very gracious. She may have been surprised
my suspicion. And I know nothing about the Nobel Peace
Prize other than they gave it to Yastra Arafat one year,
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to Barack Obama another year, and they gave it to
Jimmy Carter in twenty in two thousand and two, which
was a lovely gesture. But I don't know, you know
what what Jimmy Carter accomplished in terms of peace and
around the world. President Trump should receive the Nobel Peace
Prize for what he's done so far, in my opinion,
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and if you agree with me on that, feel free.
Six one, seven, five, four, ten thirty. If you disagree,
feel free. But what is going on in Israel right now,
the fact that this administration has been able to bring
not only Jimas and Israel together, but many of the
other countries. As a matter of fact, the President has
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talked about that as recently as today, Rob please play
President Trump cut number thirty four. As you know, last night.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
We reached a momentous breakthrough in the Middle East, something
that people said was never going to be done. We
ended the war in Gaza and really on a much
bigger basis, created peace and I think it's gonna be
a lasting peace, hopefully an everlasting piece piece in the
Middle East. We secured the release of all of the
remaining hostages and they should be released on Monday or Tuesday.
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Getting them is a complicated process. I'd rather not tell
you what they have to do together. There are places
you don't want to be. But we are getting the
hostages back on on Tuesday, Monday or Tuesday, and that'll
be a day of joy. I'm gonna try and make
a trip over We're gonna try and get over there.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
And by the way, the White House now was confirming
that this is CUTT number thirty five. Please Rob.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
We're going to go to Egypt where we'll have a signing,
an additional signing. We've already had a signing representing me,
but we're going to have an official signing. And the
amazing thing is all of the countries over there, from
Guitar to Saudi Arabia, all of them, the rich ones
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are less than rich ones. They've all come together something
which is amazing. Actually, they've all come together for this
and they're really probably the best relationships they've ever had.
So it's been really something incredible, and nobody thought it
was possible to get it done. And very importantly, the
hostages are coming back.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
And by the way, although there has been not a
lot of credit given.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
By the mainstream you know, network media, ABC, NBC, and CBS,
there was this comment made by Martha Raddits, who used
to be a reporter here in Boston and WCVB TV
and is a friend of mine.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
She gives Trump pretty clear credit, which any person in
their right mind would have to do. I mean This
is a goal that was It was a goal that
was reached for, you know, the Golden Ring, if you
want to call it. It came to pass in large
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part because of Benjamin net Yahoo and what he did
to bring his country back from this horrific event of
two years ago on October seventh, in which twelve hundred
people were massacred innocent civilians in e rally in his country.
But so, this is ABC reporter Martha Raddit, it's got
to give her a credit for being fair. I mean, look,
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this is obvious. This is a no brainer. I don't
care what sort of level of Trump's derangement syndrome someone
might be suffering from. This is an incredible achievement. And
if these hostages come home, and if Hamas, as they
have already agreed, are willing to disarm and allow the
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people of Gaza to be governed by a group of
independent Palestinian leaders under some guidance, the upside for the
people of Gaza is incredible. And you saw people of
Gaza celebrating as well as the people of Israel in
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Hostage Square. This is Martha radd It's cut twenty.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Please Rob tell us about the role President trum playde
and bringing all of this about well, Robin, there's no
question that if this goes as planned, if we see
those remaining hostages freed in Israel begin its withdrawal, it
is a remarkable achievement and President Trump most certainly deserves
credit for his role. He has done this through diplomacy, pressure,
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and the sheer force of his personality and persistence. He
dispatched diplomats again and again, made threats just in the
last few days to Moss say again, if they did
not sign the deal, all hell would break loose, and
they had the bombing of Iran as an example of that.
But perhaps most importantly, he pushed Benjamin Ettan Yahuo in
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ways his predecessor and others have not.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Robin, Yeah. Really accurate analysis by Martha raddits that attack
on the Iranian nuclear facility by the stealth bombers UH
is critical to this, as is the relationships that he
has developed. President Trump has developed over the years with
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Middle Eastern leaders who are not inclined to support anything
that benefits Israel. We'll take a break if you are willing.
Even though Donald Trump did not receive the Nobel Peace
Prize if you want to express a thought or an opinion.
I've heard what I had to say. Here's the number.
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I'll say it slowly. Six one seven, two five, four,
one zero three zero, six one seven two five four
ten thirty or six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
And I would like to hear. And I know that
I have listeners who are not supporters of Donald Trump,
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but you have every right to be. But I would
like to hear all of you step up to the microphone.
I would say, man, apple, woman up, uh and tell
me what you think. This is not gonna not gonna
have you put a Trump bumper sticker on your car.
I guess I get that. But this is a remarkable achievement. Again, particularly,
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I'll echo what Martha Radits had to say that if
this all comes to fruition, and if it doesn't, I
think Israel is ready to go in and finish the job.
Six seven thirty six one seven nine three ten thirty.
Back right after that, we will talk about this only
till eleven o'clock. If you're calling in at ten fifty eight,
you're not going to get in the year on this.
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We'll go to the twentieth hour at eleven and tonight
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Speaker 1 (14:00):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w B
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
During the break, Rob made a comment to me, can
I share the comment with the audience? Rob, Rob, Who's
my friend and a key member of the Knightside team.
He and I don't necessarily always see eye to eye
on every issue, which I really respected admire about Rob.
He said to me, well, you know, I paraphrase what
he said was that renaming your Defense Department of the
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Department of War doesn't screen peace Prize. Well, Rob, to
some extent, I think I could make the argument that
it does. Look, I think that Hamas watched what Trump
did in terms of Iran. Iran is the huge supporter
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and funder of Hezbollah and Hamas as well as the
hoodie rebels and Yemen. But that was a devastating strike
on Iran uh And and I do believe that now
Hamas realizes that their financial Godfather Iran, the religious the
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religious leadership of Iran cannot support Hamas financially as they
have over the years. And I think that that that
actually contributed to Hamas maybe looking at this situation and saying, hey,
we need to survive to fight another day, and if
we if we hold on here, we may all be
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wiped out. That's what That's the only thing that I
think would have brought Hamas to the table here. Let
let's get to phone calls though, six one, seven, four
ten thirty. Steve is up in Maine. Hey, Steve, thanks
for checking in, sir.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
How are you tonight?
Speaker 7 (15:50):
I dance. I told you i'd call in.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
No. I appreciate that I have all my friends and
listeners who I know are loyal listeners, and sometimes it's
it's tough to get people to reach for that phone.
So you go right ahead, Steve. What's your thought on
I know that you're a supporter of Donald Trump.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Yes, And I remember a month or so ago you
were asking the audience do you feel optimistic or pessimistic
about where our nation is heading? And I said optimistic
And just what's happening now is.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
A big, big boost for.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Relations with the I wouldn't trust our enemies, ever, I'm
kind of interested to see how it's going to turn out.
I mean, like you said, Iran's kind of on the
heels now. And God, thank God that Donald Trump is
in office, because he's a strong leader and they are
not going to mess around with him. I said, he's
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business though.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I said to a friend of mine who was very
worried about the strike on the Iranian nuclear facility, a
bright guy, and I said, why you concerned? And they said, whoa,
you know this could lead to nuclear war. I said, no,
if you take a potential rogue nation off the field
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of of of of countries that could actually achieve a
status of being a nuclear nation, that actually is something
that would should qualify for the Nobel Peace Prize.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
I mean yeah, I mean yeah, I mean you're giving
it the Arafat back in the day. I mean, come on,
that's not a very prestigious award because he was a
killer of many, many people, and he hated Israel and
America too, So yeah, no, what he doesn't need a
Noble Peace Prize. He's got his seventy supporters that voted
him in because we knew it was going to come
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to this and we needed a strong leader. And you know,
just what did you get ready to go?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yes, Steve, did you say his seventy eight percent of supporters?
Speaker 6 (17:57):
What was it?
Speaker 7 (17:58):
What was the percentage I saw.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
In the election? In the election, I mean it was
very close. I think he got fifty point one percent. Now,
you know, he Yeah, there's never been a presidential election
when when Lyndon Johnson won, well, when Ronald Reagan won
forty nine states against Walter Mondale, I think Reagan. I
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don't think Reagan got sixty percent. It would have been
like fifty eight or fifty nine percent. But yeah, to
get fifty percent and to win all the battleground states,
that's what he stakes his his thought on to be
really deal when he claims he claims a mandate. You know,
when Johnson beat Goldwater in sixty four with I think
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it was sixty percent of the vote, that was a mandate.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
So again he has a right to characterize his election
in any way he wants. At the same time, when
when Harris said it was the closest presidential election in
the twenty first century, did she miss the Bush Gore
election of two thousand, did she miss. You know, the
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the the Hillary Clinton election, well the non election of
Hillary in twenty sixteen, when when Hillary actually won the
popular vote but lost the electoral college. You know. Anyway, hey, Steve.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Anyways, I wanted to call the eleventh hour, but I
called early.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Well, there's the good news.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
St. Clarita, California. You're going where the furthest I've ever travel?
Is that visit my cousin or a husband back in
two thousand? Oh well, San Clarita, California.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Well, let me give you good news, and I want
to give good news to all the other callers. Remember,
we have a rule on nightside. We asked people to
call once a week. But but in the in the
twentieth hour on night side, Steve, everybody gets a hall pass.
So even if you want to, if you want, you
want to call back at eleven and and expand on
the trip to Santa Colorina.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
Clarita in Colora.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, Set Clarina, you got a hall pass. Where's Santa Clarina? There?
Speaker 7 (20:10):
You sir so nice wicking a delly ticket at.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
The You got it right, If you got it, it's
a hall we call it a hall pass. Thanks, Steve.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
You should have known that.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Do you bet when are you back driving?
Speaker 7 (20:24):
Steve Stephen, New Hampshire. I'm going to h Alton, New Hampshire.
When I come back, I'll go to Bob hober.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Run.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Steve, Steve, by the way, is one of those truckers,
those road warriors, driving an eighteen wheeler. Uh. And without
guys and gals like Steve driving the eighteen wheelers, there
would be nothing in grocery stores and in stores that
you go to.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
So, uh, you couldn't hear that. I did my air
horn on my wheel.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I did. I heard it?
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Oh you heard it?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah. I consider that to be at night side saloon.
So anybody's going by it.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
You got it?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
All right? Thanks Steve, talking to you. Have a great night.
Good night, all right, we'll continue to talk here. Does
Donald Trump deserve a Nobel Peace Prize? I think without question,
and I think that probably the prize, which traditionally is
awarded in October, in the conjunction of the other prizes.
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I suspect that this woman from Venezuela, who we mentioned earlier,
who was very gracious, Maria Karina Machado, the opposition leader
to Nicholas Mendoro. I'm sure that the decision was made
a month ago, and Donald Trump should be the odds
on favorite for the Nobel Peace Prize next October, which,
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whether or not he realizes it or not, should be
something that he should value even more because it's going
to be before the congressional election. I don't want to
be political about it, but that's that's an advantage. Uh,
here we go six one seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.
We got two lines open at six one seven, nine
three one ten thirty. Let's light him up. We will
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end this conversation. I think it's going to be a
fascinating conversation. I see that Ken from Waldam will be
next in Darryl in Chicago. I believe Daryl's a new caller.
I believe Ken is someone who's not a big fan
of Donald Trump, but I think he's a magnanimous caller
and I will be very surprised if he does not
agree with Martha Raddits and me, uh that this is
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an extraordinary achievement by President Trump and his team. And
guess what, when we elect presidents, I root for them
whoever I voted for, because ironically, today the stock market
and the day we should be celebrating peace in the
Middle East. The stock market today took a dive because
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Trump has thrown some more tariffs on China. Uh, it's
it's a funny world out there, ladies and gentlemen. We'll
be back at Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
It's night Side with Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
We go next to Daryl in Chicago. Daryl, welcome to Nightside.
How are you, sir?
Speaker 8 (23:19):
Okay? Never one, Darryl.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Are you on a are you on a speakerphone of
some sort or a headset? You're kind of muffled cell phone,
cell phone? Will do me a favor? Will you take
the mouthpiece of the cell phone and speak right into
the cell phone for me, my friends, because I want
to hear what you have to say. You're a little
off to sell the piece the mouthpiece of the cell phone.
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Little better, A little better? Go right ahead.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
Well, first of all, why he should get it? Never one?
Why is he spending all this funny with his children?
Get coins billions?
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Donalds?
Speaker 8 (24:03):
Number one? That's that's a bear run. Number two. Uh,
I was in the Vietnam War, and that damn guy
he had five deferments for a seat. And uh he
claims the soldier guy in saluting, he didn't he didn't
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come here. Yeah, the other vetention. So I just don't
like it. And the other thing, it's still at Chicago.
He's got all these sogers now going around the town
screwing us up, and I think it's bad, Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I and I understand Darryl that you're no fan of
Donald Trump, and that's fine, but I think you should
have the the independence to look at the situation and
if he has been able to bring the warring parties
together in the Middle East, it might mean that a
generation of soldiers won't have to find themselves in a
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bad situation like you found yourself as a young man
in Vietnam. That's all. You don't have to like the
fact that he used medical deferments and avoided what many
others could not avoid, including yourself. You may not like
the fact that he's raising money and selling what ties
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and gold coins and watches. I think that's beneath the
I agree with you. I think that's beneath the office
and the dignity of the presidency. But at the same time,
I look at this and I think to myself, no
other president was able to achieve what he appears to
have achieved.
Speaker 8 (25:44):
Yeah, I'm not It is a totally one.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Okay, Yeah again, Daryl, do me a favor next time
you call, I'm going to have Rob trying to get
us a better connection because it's just muffled and it's
tough to hear. But thank you for listening. Have you
called my Showbi Sources? This your first time?
Speaker 6 (26:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Well, thank you very much. We give you a kick
on applause wakes Joe and thanks thanks for listening to
us out in Chicago. Thank you much. All right, then
we go to Ken in wal dam Ken. Welcome, How
are you, sir?
Speaker 9 (26:16):
I'm well Dan, good to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Good to talk with him as well. And you're someone
I know who is not a fan of Donald Trump.
Speaker 9 (26:23):
That is that is true. So first he did he
received forty nine point eight percent of the vote. Jill
Stein and Robert F. Kennedy Junior and Chase Oliver all
got around half a percent, So that dropped him. You know, Nate, Well,
I don't know. Maybe Kamala Harris would have got all
those votes, but.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Well, you know, I mean I doubt that. But but
what did Kamala Harris? What was her vote total.
Speaker 9 (26:49):
Then she was at forty eight point three. So Trump
did win the popular vote, but he Yeah, but more
people did vote against him than for what I wanted
to say. I can support. I mean, you know, I've
supported him in Israel. I certainly support what he's doing
there and would certainly like to see this really go
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to fruition before giving him too much credit.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (27:15):
And I certainly supported his response to Iraq, but you know,
I certainly mean Iran.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I think I meant to I ran, not Iraq.
Speaker 9 (27:28):
Thank you, Dan, Yes, I did, Thanks for that correction. Yeah,
but I certainly don't support him winning the Nobel Peace Prize.
And you know, I've been a huge critic of his
response in Ukraine, and I think he's actually I think
the only answer is we have to support Ukraine one
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hundred percent, right until Russia finally gives up or wins.
And I think Trump's actions of supporting Russia when he
has even to the two and withholding you know, intelligence Ukraine,
chewing out Selensky in the White House, that all has
been a benefit to Russia and extended the war, that
will only extend the war.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
In my mind, Well, he may have been you know,
Kenn Again, I don't want to disagree with you, because
you're very magnanimous in your comments. But I do think
that that Trump at his core, at his core, believes
that economics are the way to solve problems. And you
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might agree with me and might disagree, but I think
that he views all of these problems can be resolved
from an economic point of view. And I'm sure that
he began with Zolensky thinking, okay, maybe if if Zolensky
was able to give a little bit here. I think
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that's where he was coming from. Now I disagree with
him on that, but I can understand what his policy was.
Now he changed his tune, and I think he now realizes,
and I've talked about this as you know, that Putin
has played him. Putin has played him on the trip
to Alaska. And I think that that Trump at this
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point is much more supportive today of Ukraine and Zolensky.
And I think that Trump might do more for Ukraine
from a military point of view than even Biden did.
And Biden, you know, did support Zolensky, uh, But but
I think Trump felt the way to end the Ukraine
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War was was to in effect co opt Putin and
he now realizes that Putin played him. I think it's
I think it's more complicated, and I think part of
the economic, the economic rash now was he tried to
sell all these guys in the Middle East, look if
we can eliminate this Israeli Hamas thing, and you can
be a little bit more accepting of Israel. When he
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was talking to the to the emirs and the leaders
of these other countries, I think he was trying to
appeal to their wallets, into their pocketbooks, and maybe it worked.
Maybe it worked. I don't trust Hamas to follow through
with the disarmament, but boy, he's moved this process a
much further down the field than I ever would have anticipated.
Speaker 9 (30:24):
Well, I think we'll see. I hope you're right. Let
me make just a couple other quick arguments that you know,
when he suggested that we need to take control of Greenland,
he wouldn't rule out military action. Same thing in Panama. Again,
he did not sound like a man of peace.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
To Panama and Greenland are different things. But I understand
your point. I mean, we gave the Panama Canal away,
and at this point red China, China has more influence
in the Panama Canal than the United States. And let
me tell you that's a that's a scary prospect. And
so I look at the Greenland thing as uh as
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as really just uh dumb, stupid, not necessary. The Panama
Canal thing, we got to look at that a little
bit more seriously, ken in terms of and will be
messing around down there.
Speaker 9 (31:18):
But how what's his approach right, I mean, so far,
I would say his approach has not been a man
of peace.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Sometimes if he wasn't a man of peace when he
when he dropped you know, a bunker buster bombs uh
in Iran. But guess what I think that's taken Iran
off the field.
Speaker 9 (31:38):
I mean, no, I'm so I have been one hundred
percent in support of that move, and I would I
have no disagreement with that that you have not actually
ruling up.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
No, But what I'm saying that's not a man of
peace in the in the classic sense of it. The
fact that he he fiddled and tattled with with some
conversation is about Greenland. I think part of that was
he was giving Denmark a tickle uh and and and
laying a foundation for what he's going to do with NATO.
I think he's more complicated than people and more sophisticated
(32:12):
than people realize, and shrouds himself. As as as as
the you know, the guy you know what was it
Teddy Roosevelt said, walk softly, but carry a big stick.
And I think that he's like, talk loud, talk loudly, uh,
and and carry a big stick, but don't use it
and you know, do not break until necessary.
Speaker 9 (32:32):
So I don't think Obama deserved the Nobel Peace Prize.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
I totally agree with you.
Speaker 9 (32:37):
But as an example, I don't think his orchestration of
the killing of Osama bin Laden would have ruled him
out for it either, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I agree with you. I agree with you. He took
he took somebody who was the mastermind behind nine to
eleven off the field. And I supported Obama when he
took out the chic and Yemen and killed There was
a there was a Muslim cleric who had lived in
the United States, had visited the Obama White House actually,
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who they now understood was really tied in with ISIS
and al Qaida, and they they hit him with a
drone while he was driving with a fourteen year old
son in the car killed both of them. Look, this
guy was a threat to the US. You do what
you gotta do.
Speaker 9 (33:25):
So I think Trump's attack on him ran which I
agree with, also doesn't rule him out for the Numbel
Peace Prize, but I certainly don't think he deserves one either.
And if I can just throw out two other did
you do it?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Did you do it quickly? Because I'm way past my break.
I took you early. Here, go ahead, Jim.
Speaker 9 (33:44):
Sorry, Yeah, So one is you know UAE what Chris
Murphy's alleging and others is they you know, they invested
billions of dollars in his family's bitcoin and then two
weeks later he gave them access to very uh not
maybe not secret, but very sensitive AI technology chip technology
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from the United States. And there's a lot of concern
about that.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Well, you know what that if that's true, if there
is a quid pro quo there not to utilize the
Latin phrase that everybody is not familiar with, that's potentially
an impeachable offense. Okay, that that is, that is profiting.
That's a serious allegation if there is substance to the allegation.
But I don't know how much substance there is to
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that allegation. Okay, I haven't seen enough.
Speaker 9 (34:36):
I'm concerned about it. And then and then the last
one Dan I would just throw out is what's happening internally, right.
That's that letter to or that post to Pam Bondy
about going after Schiff and Komi and Latisha James and
sending troops to Portland, Oregon of all places. I mean,
the whole retribucing campaign I think is well for again
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not a man of peace.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Even though let me tell you we've strayed from peace
to what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Letician James is the last person who can be talking
about political retribution because she campaigned on the promise of
indicting Donald Trump. You don't run for political office, in
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my opinion, in this country and get elected to political
office on the premise of I will indict the former
Republican president. I mean, you.
Speaker 9 (35:30):
Wouldn't get you wouldn't give her a Nobel Peace Prize
and Trump brand on twenty sixteen on lock her up
Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yes, well Hill thing, Well that's fine, but so so
therefore James did to Trump what Trump promised he would
do at rallies. I think it's very different between a
chant at the rally to whip up your troops. To
the best of my knowledge, Hillary Clinton was not indicted
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during the first Trump administration.
Speaker 9 (36:02):
I wouldn't give. I wouldn't give either one of them.
I know they're let's do this, Let's.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Continue our conversation next week. I can't. I went way
over with you here and I got to get a
couple more in before you. I do appreciate it, Dan,
as always, I enjoyed the conversations with you. You know that,
my friend. We fundamentally have disagreements, but they're always civil.
Thank you much, appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (36:23):
Appreciate my bke.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
All right, you give as good as you get. Coming
back on Nightside, Craig and Ohio, stay right there. I'm
going to get you in.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
I promise.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Let's go to Craig you Ohio, Craig, welcome back where
you been, buddy.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
To tell you the truth. Not only did I buy
one radio, but I bought another one. It's been hard
to get me on the radio. I get a couple
of different channels, and yeah, I'm definitely gonna have to
get a good radio to take something strong. AM signal.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah, boy, I'll tell you that's that's disappointing. I know
that some people have told me that our signal has
not been as good as it, you know, as it's been.
But I missed you, man, I missed you. How you
doing all right? I was afraid you were a regularly
regular call. I was afraid you were sick. Tell us
should Donald Trump get at the Nobel Peace Prize next year?
Speaker 6 (37:20):
Well, I'll tell you this much. Uh, I drive for
the VA, I take veterans, shot a doctor's appointments. Yes,
and the general consensus it seems about you know a
monkst veterans was you know, it's like it's over me,
you know, we and it's up to the next generation.
(37:44):
And I truly believe generations z If that's what it
is now, I believe it is. Uh, it's coming up
improving that point. You know, they're they're getting behind people
like Donald Trump and yes, he does these the Peace Prize.
You know, it's just.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
All these politicians from my lifetime, going back to Lyndon Johnson,
they would talk about the two state solution and this
and that, and how you know all of them, you know,
the Bushes, the Clinton's, Barack Obama, Joe Biden. I mean,
you compare Donald Trump to Joe Biden, it's not even
(38:26):
I mean, it's not even close. It's like comparing Tom
Brady to a junior varsity high school football quarterback.
Speaker 6 (38:35):
You know, I agree.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
And uh.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
The last comment I have, and I might upset a
few of your callers, is now, Gandhi was a man
of peace, yep, but tell me what he really did.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Well again, Yeah, that's okay. Gandhi has his reputation. I
guess it's nice to know there are more paths. I
don't believe that pacifism is the path the piece. As
Ronald Reagan said, no country ever got into a war
because countries thought they were too strong militarily. Generally, it's
weak countries militarily that are attacked. It was our circumstance
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in World War Two when we were attacked. And I
think that, I think I don't have a problem calling
it the Department of War because guess what, that's what
it's been. And this whole euphemism of the Department of piece.
So the Department of Defense, the best defense is good offense,
both in football and I think with the military as well. Hey, Greg,
(39:36):
I got to run here. Get a great radio. You
also can listen to us. Do you have a computer?
You get listened to us on iHeart.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
I can listen to you on the phone. But I
too lazy. They're like, well, I'll hang up without call up.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
No, no, no, that presents a problem. Get it. Get
a good radio, go to you know, go to on
those twos. Get a good radio and we'll get to
pump the signal up. Okay, thank you Greig, Greg your
voice great to you, your voice. Thought about you the
other day. We come back the eleven o'clock news. Everyone
has a hall pass. What's the father's place you've ever visited?
(40:10):
And what's the fatherest place you'd like to visit. We
try to come up with new topics for the twentieth hour.
It's I lay it in front of the audience right now.
Let's light them up. Coming back right after the eleven
o'clock news,
He's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w BSY Constance Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thanks very much, Al Griffin. My name is Dan Ray.
By the way, those of you who have trouble remembering
the number, the call in number, let me repeat it
very clearly and very slowly, and if you have a
piece of paper you can write it down. Six one
seven There were two numbers. Both start six one seven,
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six one seven, two, five four ten thirty at six
one seven, two five four one zero three zero or
six one seven nine three one ten thirty which is
six one seven nine three one one zero three zero.
(00:52):
All we were looking for and I'm hoping that out
of this story that we did to that someone will
have a contact with someone in the Trump administration which
can get the UN to change this stupid policy. This
United Nations Agency. The problem with this these groups are
(01:15):
it's like it's a bureaucracy. And so you have somebody
five or six levels down who writes a memo that
says we should tighten up our security and that's what happens.
And aken, all I need is one person who might
have been listening and if you want to share that
hour and the I mean that is such such a
(01:39):
ridiculous rule that this UN Postal agency, what is it
technically called the Universal Postal Union, very impressive, the UPU,
the Universal Postal Union, a United Nations agency in burn, Switzerland.
That agency needs to wake up and smell the coffee
(02:01):
and realize that why make it more difficult? Why make
it more difficult for US troops who are stationing around
the world to receive some form of friendly communication from
back home. Anyway, That's all I've said on that. But
you can go tomorrow, you can find that, you can
reference your friends if you want to take any of
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the night Side stories down. We post every night. Every
morning Rob post. He stays until three am in the
morning and he posts the ten, the eleven, the ten,
the nine in the eighth in reverse order. So tomorrow
and Sunday. If you go to Nightside on Demand dot
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I'm sure I don't have to spell that Nightside on
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the ten if you're not interest and ten, scroll down
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form which means it's not sixty minutes, it's about forty
two minutes. They eliminate the commercials, they eliminate the newscasts,
so it's a lot easier to hear. It's only forty
two minutes. But even more importantly, if you know anybody
who has some technical computer capabilities, they can take that down,
pull it down, put it up on their website, they
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can share it with friends. It's called communications, ladies and
gentlemen in the twenty first century. Okay, you know in
the old days, when you read a newspaper article and
you went upstairs and you were the only one in
the house that had a newspaper, you handed the newspaper
to your neighbor and said, did you read this or article?
You might find an interest. That's the same principle. It's
the same principle. Okay, we're going to change topics here
(03:51):
and we're going to talk about the Nobel Peace Prize today.
Maria Corina Machado of Venezuela was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Now,
for those of you who do not know Maria Corina Mashado,
and I'm sure that most of my audience knows the
name Donald Trump much better than the name Maria Karina Mashado.
(04:16):
She is the opposition leader in Venezuela to the President
of Venezuela, Meduro Nicholas Meduro. Meduro is basically running a dictatorship.
The Trump administration has put a fifty million dollars bounty
on Madeiro's head, so he's got to be looking over
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his shoulder. And so the award of this Nobel Peace
Prize to the woman who is leading the fight against Meduro,
Maria Karina Maschado, is a good award in my opinion. Okay, However, however,
(05:03):
I think that the Nobel Committee Prize they do prizes
in literature and medicine as well as the best known
as the Nobel Peace Prize. They have made some I
think ridiculous awards over the years. The most ridiculous was
the one they gave to Barack President Obama in early
(05:25):
two thousand and nine for some reason his before he
had served as president for any more than a few weeks.
I don't understand why that was given. I certainly can
understand why the award was given today to this woman
(05:50):
in Venezuela, who, by the way, when she accepted the award,
very graciously said, we are on the threshold of victory,
and today, more than ever, we count on President Trump,
the people of the United States, the peoples of Latin America,
and the democratic nations of the world as our principal
(06:12):
allies to achieve freedom and democracy. As I mentioned, this
is an article out of the Washington Post. Trump has
been highly critical of Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro, for whom
the administration is offering a fifty million dollar reward for
information leading to his arrest. Maduro was indicted in the
(06:32):
United States for narco terrorism during the first Trump administration.
So this woman is an ally philosophically of the Trump administration,
and she was very gracious. She may have been surprised
my suspicion. And I know nothing about the Nobel Peace
Prize other than they gave it to Yastra Arafat one year,
(06:53):
to Barack Obama another year, and they gave it to
Jimmy Carter in twenty in two thousand and two, which
was a lovely gesture. But I don't know, you know
what what Jimmy Carter accomplished in terms of peace and
around the world. President Trump should receive the Nobel Peace
Prize for what he's done so far, in my opinion,
(07:17):
and if you agree with me on that, feel free.
Six one, seven, five, four, ten thirty. If you disagree,
feel free. But what is going on in Israel right now,
the fact that this administration has been able to bring
not only Jimas and Israel together, but many of the
other countries. As a matter of fact, the President has
(07:39):
talked about that as recently as today, Rob please play
President Trump cut number thirty four. As you know, last night.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
We reached a momentous breakthrough in the Middle East, something
that people said was never going to be done. We
ended the war in Gaza and really on a much
bigger basis, created peace and I think it's gonna be
a lasting peace, hopefully an everlasting piece piece in the
Middle East. We secured the release of all of the
remaining hostages and they should be released on Monday or Tuesday.
(08:14):
Getting them is a complicated process. I'd rather not tell
you what they have to do together. There are places
you don't want to be. But we are getting the
hostages back on on Tuesday, Monday or Tuesday, and that'll
be a day of joy. I'm gonna try and make
a trip over We're gonna try and get over there.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
And by the way, the White House now was confirming
that this is CUTT number thirty five. Please Rob.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
We're going to go to Egypt where we'll have a signing,
an additional signing. We've already had a signing representing me,
but we're going to have an official signing. And the
amazing thing is all of the countries over there, from
Guitar to Saudi Arabia, all of them, the rich ones
(09:02):
are less than rich ones. They've all come together something
which is amazing. Actually, they've all come together for this
and they're really probably the best relationships they've ever had.
So it's been really something incredible, and nobody thought it
was possible to get it done. And very importantly, the
hostages are coming back.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
And by the way, although there has been not a
lot of credit given.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
By the mainstream you know, network media, ABC, NBC, and CBS,
there was this comment made by Martha Raddits, who used
to be a reporter here in Boston and WCVB TV
and is a friend of mine.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
She gives Trump pretty clear credit, which any person in
their right mind would have to do. I mean This
is a goal that was It was a goal that
was reached for, you know, the Golden Ring, if you
want to call it. It came to pass in large
(10:05):
part because of Benjamin net Yahoo and what he did
to bring his country back from this horrific event of
two years ago on October seventh, in which twelve hundred
people were massacred innocent civilians in e rally in his country.
But so, this is ABC reporter Martha Raddit, it's got
to give her a credit for being fair. I mean, look,
(10:28):
this is obvious. This is a no brainer. I don't
care what sort of level of Trump's derangement syndrome someone
might be suffering from. This is an incredible achievement. And
if these hostages come home, and if Hamas, as they
have already agreed, are willing to disarm and allow the
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people of Gaza to be governed by a group of
independent Palestinian leaders under some guidance, the upside for the
people of Gaza is incredible. And you saw people of
Gaza celebrating as well as the people of Israel in
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Hostage Square. This is Martha radd It's cut twenty.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Please Rob tell us about the role President trum playde
and bringing all of this about well, Robin, there's no
question that if this goes as planned, if we see
those remaining hostages freed in Israel begin its withdrawal, it
is a remarkable achievement and President Trump most certainly deserves
credit for his role. He has done this through diplomacy, pressure,
(11:34):
and the sheer force of his personality and persistence. He
dispatched diplomats again and again, made threats just in the
last few days to Moss say again, if they did
not sign the deal, all hell would break loose, and
they had the bombing of Iran as an example of that.
But perhaps most importantly, he pushed Benjamin Ettan Yahuo in
(11:54):
ways his predecessor and others have not.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Robin, Yeah. Really accurate analysis by Martha raddits that attack
on the Iranian nuclear facility by the stealth bombers UH
is critical to this, as is the relationships that he
has developed. President Trump has developed over the years with
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Middle Eastern leaders who are not inclined to support anything
that benefits Israel. We'll take a break if you are willing.
Even though Donald Trump did not receive the Nobel Peace
Prize if you want to express a thought or an opinion.
I've heard what I had to say. Here's the number.
(12:37):
I'll say it slowly. Six one seven, two five, four,
one zero three zero, six one seven two five four
ten thirty or six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
And I would like to hear. And I know that
I have listeners who are not supporters of Donald Trump,
(12:58):
but you have every right to be. But I would
like to hear all of you step up to the microphone.
I would say, man, apple, woman up, uh and tell
me what you think. This is not gonna not gonna
have you put a Trump bumper sticker on your car.
I guess I get that. But this is a remarkable achievement. Again, particularly,
(13:22):
I'll echo what Martha Radits had to say that if
this all comes to fruition, and if it doesn't, I
think Israel is ready to go in and finish the job.
Six seven thirty six one seven nine three ten thirty.
Back right after that, we will talk about this only
till eleven o'clock. If you're calling in at ten fifty eight,
you're not going to get in the year on this.
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We'll go to the twentieth hour at eleven and tonight
the topic is going to be what is the farthest
place you've traveled to or what is the farthest place
on Earth. I don't need anyone calling and telling me
Mars that you'd like to travel to and why back
on Night's Side after this.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w B
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
During the break, Rob made a comment to me, can
I share the comment with the audience? Rob, Rob, Who's
my friend and a key member of the Knightside team.
He and I don't necessarily always see eye to eye
on every issue, which I really respected admire about Rob.
He said to me, well, you know, I paraphrase what
he said was that renaming your Defense Department of the
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Department of War doesn't screen peace Prize. Well, Rob, to
some extent, I think I could make the argument that
it does. Look, I think that Hamas watched what Trump
did in terms of Iran. Iran is the huge supporter
(14:51):
and funder of Hezbollah and Hamas as well as the
hoodie rebels and Yemen. But that was a devastating strike
on Iran uh And and I do believe that now
Hamas realizes that their financial Godfather Iran, the religious the
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religious leadership of Iran cannot support Hamas financially as they
have over the years. And I think that that that
actually contributed to Hamas maybe looking at this situation and saying, hey,
we need to survive to fight another day, and if
we if we hold on here, we may all be
(15:35):
wiped out. That's what That's the only thing that I
think would have brought Hamas to the table here. Let
let's get to phone calls though, six one, seven, four
ten thirty. Steve is up in Maine. Hey, Steve, thanks
for checking in, sir.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
How are you tonight?
Speaker 7 (15:50):
I dance. I told you i'd call in.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
No. I appreciate that I have all my friends and
listeners who I know are loyal listeners, and sometimes it's
it's tough to get people to reach for that phone.
So you go right ahead, Steve. What's your thought on
I know that you're a supporter of Donald Trump.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Yes, And I remember a month or so ago you
were asking the audience do you feel optimistic or pessimistic
about where our nation is heading? And I said optimistic
And just what's happening now is.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
A big, big boost for.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Relations with the I wouldn't trust our enemies, ever, I'm
kind of interested to see how it's going to turn out.
I mean, like you said, Iran's kind of on the
heels now. And God, thank God that Donald Trump is
in office, because he's a strong leader and they are
not going to mess around with him. I said, he's
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business though.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I said to a friend of mine who was very
worried about the strike on the Iranian nuclear facility, a
bright guy, and I said, why you concerned? And they said, whoa,
you know this could lead to nuclear war. I said, no,
if you take a potential rogue nation off the field
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of of of of countries that could actually achieve a
status of being a nuclear nation, that actually is something
that would should qualify for the Nobel Peace Prize.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
I mean yeah, I mean yeah, I mean you're giving
it the Arafat back in the day. I mean, come on,
that's not a very prestigious award because he was a
killer of many, many people, and he hated Israel and
America too, So yeah, no, what he doesn't need a
Noble Peace Prize. He's got his seventy supporters that voted
him in because we knew it was going to come
(17:44):
to this and we needed a strong leader. And you know,
just what did you get ready to go?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yes, Steve, did you say his seventy eight percent of supporters?
Speaker 6 (17:57):
What was it?
Speaker 7 (17:58):
What was the percentage I saw.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
In the election? In the election, I mean it was
very close. I think he got fifty point one percent. Now,
you know, he Yeah, there's never been a presidential election
when when Lyndon Johnson won, well, when Ronald Reagan won
forty nine states against Walter Mondale, I think Reagan. I
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don't think Reagan got sixty percent. It would have been
like fifty eight or fifty nine percent. But yeah, to
get fifty percent and to win all the battleground states,
that's what he stakes his his thought on to be
really deal when he claims he claims a mandate. You know,
when Johnson beat Goldwater in sixty four with I think
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it was sixty percent of the vote, that was a mandate.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
So again he has a right to characterize his election
in any way he wants. At the same time, when
when Harris said it was the closest presidential election in
the twenty first century, did she miss the Bush Gore
election of two thousand, did she miss. You know, the
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the the Hillary Clinton election, well the non election of
Hillary in twenty sixteen, when when Hillary actually won the
popular vote but lost the electoral college. You know. Anyway, hey, Steve.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Anyways, I wanted to call the eleventh hour, but I
called early.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Well, there's the good news.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
St. Clarita, California. You're going where the furthest I've ever travel?
Is that visit my cousin or a husband back in
two thousand? Oh well, San Clarita, California.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Well, let me give you good news, and I want
to give good news to all the other callers. Remember,
we have a rule on nightside. We asked people to
call once a week. But but in the in the
twentieth hour on night side, Steve, everybody gets a hall pass.
So even if you want to, if you want, you
want to call back at eleven and and expand on
the trip to Santa Colorina.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
Clarita in Colora.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, Set Clarina, you got a hall pass. Where's Santa Clarina? There?
Speaker 7 (20:10):
You sir so nice wicking a delly ticket at.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
The You got it right, If you got it, it's
a hall we call it a hall pass. Thanks, Steve.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
You should have known that.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Do you bet when are you back driving?
Speaker 7 (20:24):
Steve Stephen, New Hampshire. I'm going to h Alton, New Hampshire.
When I come back, I'll go to Bob hober.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Run.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Steve, Steve, by the way, is one of those truckers,
those road warriors, driving an eighteen wheeler. Uh. And without
guys and gals like Steve driving the eighteen wheelers, there
would be nothing in grocery stores and in stores that
you go to.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
So, uh, you couldn't hear that. I did my air
horn on my wheel.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I did. I heard it?
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Oh you heard it?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah. I consider that to be at night side saloon.
So anybody's going by it.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
You got it?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
All right? Thanks Steve, talking to you. Have a great night.
Good night, all right, we'll continue to talk here. Does
Donald Trump deserve a Nobel Peace Prize? I think without question,
and I think that probably the prize, which traditionally is
awarded in October, in the conjunction of the other prizes.
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I suspect that this woman from Venezuela, who we mentioned earlier,
who was very gracious, Maria Karina Machado, the opposition leader
to Nicholas Mendoro. I'm sure that the decision was made
a month ago, and Donald Trump should be the odds
on favorite for the Nobel Peace Prize next October, which,
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whether or not he realizes it or not, should be
something that he should value even more because it's going
to be before the congressional election. I don't want to
be political about it, but that's that's an advantage. Uh,
here we go six one seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.
We got two lines open at six one seven, nine
three one ten thirty. Let's light him up. We will
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end this conversation. I think it's going to be a
fascinating conversation. I see that Ken from Waldam will be
next in Darryl in Chicago. I believe Daryl's a new caller.
I believe Ken is someone who's not a big fan
of Donald Trump, but I think he's a magnanimous caller
and I will be very surprised if he does not
agree with Martha Raddits and me, uh that this is
(22:36):
an extraordinary achievement by President Trump and his team. And
guess what, when we elect presidents, I root for them
whoever I voted for, because ironically, today the stock market
and the day we should be celebrating peace in the
Middle East. The stock market today took a dive because
(22:57):
Trump has thrown some more tariffs on China. Uh, it's
it's a funny world out there, ladies and gentlemen. We'll
be back at Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
It's night Side with Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
We go next to Daryl in Chicago. Daryl, welcome to Nightside.
How are you, sir?
Speaker 8 (23:19):
Okay? Never one, Darryl.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Are you on a are you on a speakerphone of
some sort or a headset? You're kind of muffled cell phone,
cell phone? Will do me a favor? Will you take
the mouthpiece of the cell phone and speak right into
the cell phone for me, my friends, because I want
to hear what you have to say. You're a little
off to sell the piece the mouthpiece of the cell phone.
(23:45):
Little better, A little better? Go right ahead.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
Well, first of all, why he should get it? Never one?
Why is he spending all this funny with his children?
Get coins billions?
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Donalds?
Speaker 8 (24:03):
Number one? That's that's a bear run. Number two. Uh,
I was in the Vietnam War, and that damn guy
he had five deferments for a seat. And uh he
claims the soldier guy in saluting, he didn't he didn't
(24:24):
come here. Yeah, the other vetention. So I just don't
like it. And the other thing, it's still at Chicago.
He's got all these sogers now going around the town
screwing us up, and I think it's bad, Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I and I understand Darryl that you're no fan of
Donald Trump, and that's fine, but I think you should
have the the independence to look at the situation and
if he has been able to bring the warring parties
together in the Middle East, it might mean that a
generation of soldiers won't have to find themselves in a
(25:05):
bad situation like you found yourself as a young man
in Vietnam. That's all. You don't have to like the
fact that he used medical deferments and avoided what many
others could not avoid, including yourself. You may not like
the fact that he's raising money and selling what ties
(25:27):
and gold coins and watches. I think that's beneath the
I agree with you. I think that's beneath the office
and the dignity of the presidency. But at the same time,
I look at this and I think to myself, no
other president was able to achieve what he appears to
have achieved.
Speaker 8 (25:44):
Yeah, I'm not It is a totally one.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Okay, Yeah again, Daryl, do me a favor next time
you call, I'm going to have Rob trying to get
us a better connection because it's just muffled and it's
tough to hear. But thank you for listening. Have you
called my Showbi Sources? This your first time?
Speaker 6 (26:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Well, thank you very much. We give you a kick
on applause wakes Joe and thanks thanks for listening to
us out in Chicago. Thank you much. All right, then
we go to Ken in wal dam Ken. Welcome, How
are you, sir?
Speaker 9 (26:16):
I'm well Dan, good to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Good to talk with him as well. And you're someone
I know who is not a fan of Donald Trump.
Speaker 9 (26:23):
That is that is true. So first he did he
received forty nine point eight percent of the vote. Jill
Stein and Robert F. Kennedy Junior and Chase Oliver all
got around half a percent, So that dropped him. You know, Nate, Well,
I don't know. Maybe Kamala Harris would have got all
those votes, but.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Well, you know, I mean I doubt that. But but
what did Kamala Harris? What was her vote total.
Speaker 9 (26:49):
Then she was at forty eight point three. So Trump
did win the popular vote, but he Yeah, but more
people did vote against him than for what I wanted
to say. I can support. I mean, you know, I've
supported him in Israel. I certainly support what he's doing
there and would certainly like to see this really go
(27:11):
to fruition before giving him too much credit.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (27:15):
And I certainly supported his response to Iraq, but you know,
I certainly mean Iran.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I think I meant to I ran, not Iraq.
Speaker 9 (27:28):
Thank you, Dan, Yes, I did, Thanks for that correction. Yeah,
but I certainly don't support him winning the Nobel Peace Prize.
And you know, I've been a huge critic of his
response in Ukraine, and I think he's actually I think
the only answer is we have to support Ukraine one
(27:50):
hundred percent, right until Russia finally gives up or wins.
And I think Trump's actions of supporting Russia when he
has even to the two and withholding you know, intelligence Ukraine,
chewing out Selensky in the White House, that all has
been a benefit to Russia and extended the war, that
will only extend the war.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
In my mind, Well, he may have been you know,
Kenn Again, I don't want to disagree with you, because
you're very magnanimous in your comments. But I do think
that that Trump at his core, at his core, believes
that economics are the way to solve problems. And you
(28:34):
might agree with me and might disagree, but I think
that he views all of these problems can be resolved
from an economic point of view. And I'm sure that
he began with Zolensky thinking, okay, maybe if if Zolensky
was able to give a little bit here. I think
(28:56):
that's where he was coming from. Now I disagree with
him on that, but I can understand what his policy was.
Now he changed his tune, and I think he now realizes,
and I've talked about this as you know, that Putin
has played him. Putin has played him on the trip
to Alaska. And I think that that Trump at this
(29:18):
point is much more supportive today of Ukraine and Zolensky.
And I think that Trump might do more for Ukraine
from a military point of view than even Biden did.
And Biden, you know, did support Zolensky, uh, But but
I think Trump felt the way to end the Ukraine
(29:42):
War was was to in effect co opt Putin and
he now realizes that Putin played him. I think it's
I think it's more complicated, and I think part of
the economic, the economic rash now was he tried to
sell all these guys in the Middle East, look if
we can eliminate this Israeli Hamas thing, and you can
be a little bit more accepting of Israel. When he
(30:04):
was talking to the to the emirs and the leaders
of these other countries, I think he was trying to
appeal to their wallets, into their pocketbooks, and maybe it worked.
Maybe it worked. I don't trust Hamas to follow through
with the disarmament, but boy, he's moved this process a
much further down the field than I ever would have anticipated.
Speaker 9 (30:24):
Well, I think we'll see. I hope you're right. Let
me make just a couple other quick arguments that you know,
when he suggested that we need to take control of Greenland,
he wouldn't rule out military action. Same thing in Panama. Again,
he did not sound like a man of peace.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
To Panama and Greenland are different things. But I understand
your point. I mean, we gave the Panama Canal away,
and at this point red China, China has more influence
in the Panama Canal than the United States. And let
me tell you that's a that's a scary prospect. And
so I look at the Greenland thing as uh as
(31:06):
as really just uh dumb, stupid, not necessary. The Panama
Canal thing, we got to look at that a little
bit more seriously, ken in terms of and will be
messing around down there.
Speaker 9 (31:18):
But how what's his approach right, I mean, so far,
I would say his approach has not been a man
of peace.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Sometimes if he wasn't a man of peace when he
when he dropped you know, a bunker buster bombs uh
in Iran. But guess what I think that's taken Iran
off the field.
Speaker 9 (31:38):
I mean, no, I'm so I have been one hundred
percent in support of that move, and I would I
have no disagreement with that that you have not actually
ruling up.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
No, But what I'm saying that's not a man of
peace in the in the classic sense of it. The
fact that he he fiddled and tattled with with some
conversation is about Greenland. I think part of that was
he was giving Denmark a tickle uh and and and
laying a foundation for what he's going to do with NATO.
I think he's more complicated than people and more sophisticated
(32:12):
than people realize, and shrouds himself. As as as as
the you know, the guy you know what was it
Teddy Roosevelt said, walk softly, but carry a big stick.
And I think that he's like, talk loud, talk loudly, uh,
and and carry a big stick, but don't use it
and you know, do not break until necessary.
Speaker 9 (32:32):
So I don't think Obama deserved the Nobel Peace Prize.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
I totally agree with you.
Speaker 9 (32:37):
But as an example, I don't think his orchestration of
the killing of Osama bin Laden would have ruled him
out for it either, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I agree with you. I agree with you. He took
he took somebody who was the mastermind behind nine to
eleven off the field. And I supported Obama when he
took out the chic and Yemen and killed There was
a there was a Muslim cleric who had lived in
the United States, had visited the Obama White House actually,
(33:06):
who they now understood was really tied in with ISIS
and al Qaida, and they they hit him with a
drone while he was driving with a fourteen year old
son in the car killed both of them. Look, this
guy was a threat to the US. You do what
you gotta do.
Speaker 9 (33:25):
So I think Trump's attack on him ran which I
agree with, also doesn't rule him out for the Numbel
Peace Prize, but I certainly don't think he deserves one either.
And if I can just throw out two other did
you do it?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Did you do it quickly? Because I'm way past my break.
I took you early. Here, go ahead, Jim.
Speaker 9 (33:44):
Sorry, Yeah, So one is you know UAE what Chris
Murphy's alleging and others is they you know, they invested
billions of dollars in his family's bitcoin and then two
weeks later he gave them access to very uh not
maybe not secret, but very sensitive AI technology chip technology
(34:07):
from the United States. And there's a lot of concern
about that.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Well, you know what that if that's true, if there
is a quid pro quo there not to utilize the
Latin phrase that everybody is not familiar with, that's potentially
an impeachable offense. Okay, that that is, that is profiting.
That's a serious allegation if there is substance to the allegation.
But I don't know how much substance there is to
(34:32):
that allegation. Okay, I haven't seen enough.
Speaker 9 (34:36):
I'm concerned about it. And then and then the last
one Dan I would just throw out is what's happening internally, right.
That's that letter to or that post to Pam Bondy
about going after Schiff and Komi and Latisha James and
sending troops to Portland, Oregon of all places. I mean,
the whole retribucing campaign I think is well for again
(34:57):
not a man of peace.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Even though let me tell you we've strayed from peace
to what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Letician James is the last person who can be talking
about political retribution because she campaigned on the promise of
indicting Donald Trump. You don't run for political office, in
(35:20):
my opinion, in this country and get elected to political
office on the premise of I will indict the former
Republican president. I mean, you.
Speaker 9 (35:30):
Wouldn't get you wouldn't give her a Nobel Peace Prize
and Trump brand on twenty sixteen on lock her up
Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yes, well Hill thing, Well that's fine, but so so
therefore James did to Trump what Trump promised he would
do at rallies. I think it's very different between a
chant at the rally to whip up your troops. To
the best of my knowledge, Hillary Clinton was not indicted
(36:00):
during the first Trump administration.
Speaker 9 (36:02):
I wouldn't give. I wouldn't give either one of them.
I know they're let's do this, Let's.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Continue our conversation next week. I can't. I went way
over with you here and I got to get a
couple more in before you. I do appreciate it, Dan,
as always, I enjoyed the conversations with you. You know that,
my friend. We fundamentally have disagreements, but they're always civil.
Thank you much, appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (36:23):
Appreciate my bke.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
All right, you give as good as you get. Coming
back on Nightside, Craig and Ohio, stay right there. I'm
going to get you in.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
I promise.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Let's go to Craig you Ohio, Craig, welcome back where
you been, buddy.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
To tell you the truth. Not only did I buy
one radio, but I bought another one. It's been hard
to get me on the radio. I get a couple
of different channels, and yeah, I'm definitely gonna have to
get a good radio to take something strong. AM signal.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah, boy, I'll tell you that's that's disappointing. I know
that some people have told me that our signal has
not been as good as it, you know, as it's been.
But I missed you, man, I missed you. How you
doing all right? I was afraid you were a regularly
regular call. I was afraid you were sick. Tell us
should Donald Trump get at the Nobel Peace Prize next year?
Speaker 6 (37:20):
Well, I'll tell you this much. Uh, I drive for
the VA, I take veterans, shot a doctor's appointments. Yes,
and the general consensus it seems about you know a
monkst veterans was you know, it's like it's over me,
you know, we and it's up to the next generation.
(37:44):
And I truly believe generations z If that's what it
is now, I believe it is. Uh, it's coming up
improving that point. You know, they're they're getting behind people
like Donald Trump and yes, he does these the Peace Prize.
You know, it's just.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
All these politicians from my lifetime, going back to Lyndon Johnson,
they would talk about the two state solution and this
and that, and how you know all of them, you know,
the Bushes, the Clinton's, Barack Obama, Joe Biden. I mean,
you compare Donald Trump to Joe Biden, it's not even
(38:26):
I mean, it's not even close. It's like comparing Tom
Brady to a junior varsity high school football quarterback.
Speaker 6 (38:35):
You know, I agree.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
And uh.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
The last comment I have, and I might upset a
few of your callers, is now, Gandhi was a man
of peace, yep, but tell me what he really did.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Well again, Yeah, that's okay. Gandhi has his reputation. I
guess it's nice to know there are more paths. I
don't believe that pacifism is the path the piece. As
Ronald Reagan said, no country ever got into a war
because countries thought they were too strong militarily. Generally, it's
weak countries militarily that are attacked. It was our circumstance
(39:14):
in World War Two when we were attacked. And I
think that, I think I don't have a problem calling
it the Department of War because guess what, that's what
it's been. And this whole euphemism of the Department of piece.
So the Department of Defense, the best defense is good offense,
both in football and I think with the military as well. Hey, Greg,
(39:36):
I got to run here. Get a great radio. You
also can listen to us. Do you have a computer?
You get listened to us on iHeart.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
I can listen to you on the phone. But I
too lazy. They're like, well, I'll hang up without call up.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
No, no, no, that presents a problem. Get it. Get
a good radio, go to you know, go to on
those twos. Get a good radio and we'll get to
pump the signal up. Okay, thank you Greig, Greg your
voice great to you, your voice. Thought about you the
other day. We come back the eleven o'clock news. Everyone
has a hall pass. What's the father's place you've ever visited?
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And what's the fatherest place you'd like to visit. We
try to come up with new topics for the twentieth hour.
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