August 5, 2025 • 35 mins
On Tuesday, the House Oversight Committee issued a flurry of subpoenas seeking files from the Justice Department and testimony from ex-government and law enforcement officials. Jeffery Epstein is a former financier and convicted sex offender who was accused of serial sex trafficking of women and underage girls, giving access to high profile figures. We will discuss the latest into this investigation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's night Side with Dan Ray I WBS Fostin's met Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Get the duck boats ready. Let me tell you all
of a sudden, things are looking pretty good for the
Red Sox. My name is Dan Ray. This night Sark.
I am here with the Red Sox. We lose every
night from eight until midnight, every weeknight from aid until midnight.
Whatever the weather, by the way, whether it's very nice,
warm summer night, crisp night in the fall, snowy night
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in the winter, beautiful early spring night, we're here. So
tonight we're going to talk or I would like to talk.
It depends upon you if you want to have a conversation.
The Republican House Oversight Committee has issued subpoenas today for
this so called Epstein files. Now, there's a lot going on,
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a lot of moving parts here, and I have to
be honest with you. This is not a story that
I have immersed myself in. I think it is one
of those stories that involves the rich and the infamous.
A lot of names have swirled around Jeffrey Epstein during
his life. He committed suicide now it's about six years ago,
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allegedly under strange circumstances while he was supposedly being watched
very intently by jail guards. But whatever, we know he's dead,
or we believe he's dead. And for those of you
who do not know who Jeffrey Epstein was, this was
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a guy who grew up in kind of normal circumstances
in New York City, and for a while he was
a teacher at a private school, and then he somehow
worked his way into the financial industry, and somehow in
New York City in the nineteen seventies, when things were
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not great for the financial end, Street made a lot
of money, made a lot of powerful friends, and spent
that money pretty lavishly. And he basically had access to
every big name politician that you could think of. There's
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no suggestion that he was ever in any way, shape
or form involved with the Bush family. He was photographed
not only with a younger much younger Donald Trump, Bill Clinton,
Hillary Clinton. I think that he had access to lots
of lots of very influential people. His world starts to
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fall apart in two thousand and five. He is He
owns a mansion in Palm Beach and has the pretty
weird habit of having a lot of young girls. I
mean young girls fourteen years old over to his mansion.
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Sexual activity has been alleged. Epstein basically was accused of
a lot. We don't go into specifics, but there was
an indictment, a state indictment, a federal indictment. This guy
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ends up being in jail. He's convicted, He works a
plea deal. Again. It's just as it's one legal problem
after another, and all of it seems to involve young women,
I mean very young women. He also has a reputation
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of flying well connected men to this private island that
he owns where supposedly there were more young girls or
young women who are available. Just you know. He has
this whole collection of friends. Everyone. He seems to be
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a magnet. Everybody seems to gravitate towards him. Well connected
people gravitate towards him, and the implication is that some
of them may have been involved in whatever was the
gravitational pull and he events. He ends up with pretty
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good lawyers. He has to register as a sex offender.
Then the FBI gets involved. He pleads guilty to a
couple of felonies, spend some time in jail. He gets
out of jail. While he was in jail. I guess
he was given twelve months, twelve hours a day to
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work at a charity. I mean, this guy's been treated
in easingly well over time, and then he gets charged
with similar activity in New York. A lot of it
is in Florida. His girlfriend who has been convicted after
his death, she's serving a twenty year sentence. All of
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a sudden, the second in command of the Department of
Justice goes and spends two days talking to her, and
she has been moved from a prison in Florida which
was a tougher prison, and she has just been relocated
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to a more comfortable prison, if any prison can be
considered comfortable. I'm not great on the details of who's
been involved here, but boy, for a guy who he
seemed to have a a weakness for young girls, and
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that's what got him in trouble. Now some of this
stuff and maybe he found access to other people. We
have pictures of Donald Trump with him in New York.
Donald Trump for a long time wanted everything to come out.
Doesn't seem to be as anxious to do it on
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one day, and then the next day he's asking the
Department of Justice to release grand jury minutes, which hard beliefs.
This just so much to this story. It's kind of overwhelming.
So the position that I want to take is I
want to see everything. I am not a voyeur, but
I don't care if it's beyond the statute of limitations.
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Because some of this stuff goes back to the early
two thousands. I think probably some of it is well
beyond the statute of limitations. I think everything should come out. Now.
Maxwell is fighting it, and the latest development today is
her lawyers are fighting it because they're saying that Epstein's
stuff could come out. He's dead, but she's still alive,
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and it's not fair to her. My attitude, that sounds
to me like Maxwell and Epstein took advantage of a
lot of young girls. I mean fourteen, fifteen years old
young girls. We're not talking about twenty one twenty two
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year olds who might be doing something in a consenting
basis with other adults. We're talking about young girls. And
I just say, let's let it all hang out, let's
get it all out there. My instinct is, my instinct
is that the Trump is not going to find himself
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implicated in this. But I want to know. I want
to know Now it becomes suspicious when the Assistant Attorney General,
Todd Blanche, who was President Trump's criminal defense lawyer, goes
and visit his visits Maxwell for two days and then
she is transferred to a better penal situation at the
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same time. The Trump administration today, I believe, and again
it's tough to keep up with all of this stuff,
said that they would like the transcripts of those interviews
between Todd Blanche, Donald Trump's former lawyer. Now that I
think the assistant Attorney General and Jesselaine. I haven't followed
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it well enough to know how to pronounce her name,
but I think it's Gselaine Maxwell. Her father apparently was
a very well known publisher named Robert Maxwell, an English publisher.
It is a can of worms. I say, let's open
it up, let's take it off, let's put it all
out there and let the chips fall where they may.
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And I guess there were a lot of people who
spent a lot of time with Jeffrey Epstein on his
private plane going to various and sundry locations. And I
don't think they were heading to the Super Bowl. I
think they were going off to to engage in some
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activities that they probably aren't proud of right now six
seven thirty, six, one, seven, nine, three, ten thirty The
Jeffrey Epstein case. He's dead, but his legacy lingers long
after his death, suspicions about his death. There were supposedly
a lot of people who breathe easily in New York City.
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Once he decided to commit suicide or allegedly commit suicide,
whichever you prefer, light him up? Does it interest you?
Or do you want to just let sleeping dogs lie?
And I would love to hear from as many opinions
on this one as possible. Are people like me who
were interested and want to know what happened and who
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was involved, particularly you know, high profile people, including politicians.
We've voyeurs. I don't think so. But if you have
no interest, why would you have no interest in this?
The American public is always interested in things like this.
Six one, seven, two, five, four thirty, six, seven, nine, three, one,
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ten thirty Back right after this, let's light those phone
lines up. There's no right there's no wrong answer. I
just hope we get some answers. Back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Well, today I was considering what stories we would take
up at ten o'clock and I thought this would be
a good one, and my producer, Marita, and I concurred.
So maybe you're not listening, but that's okay if there's
no interest in expressing your thoughts and ideas about this topic.
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We only have one call sitting there, uh, and we'll
move on to something else. Six six, one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six seven, nine thirty. We're talking about
Jeffrey Epstein. Now he is dead, he's been dead for
six years, but his legacy lives on. Not a good legacy. Uh.
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It may impact other people, political leaders, maybe some people
who are well known national figures. I would like to
know everything that's there, Okay. Uh, you can call me
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a voyeur if you want. But it seems to me
this guy dodged justice for a long time, and if
there were people within official dim that helped him dodge it,
I think we need to know who and what was done.
So I say I'm all in. I'll see what Jack
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has to say, our first caller, and if we don't
move on from there, we'll move on to something else. Hey, Jack,
how are you tonight? Thank you for checking in tonight.
Let to know what your thought is on this.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yeah, Jack Porter, I wish I would have had me
on the air. I've studied the Stepsting case for a
very long time.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And we have you in the air right now. Jack,
you're with us.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I know I'll explain things. I know several people who
are on the planes. I know Gilay and it's pronounced Geelaye.
I know Gelayan's father, I know her mother. It's this
has been public knowledge, who's been on the planes, the
manifest of public knowledge for fifteen years. It would have
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come out already. This is one big nothing burger. They're
not going to find anything new. Trump has nothing to
worry about. Clinton has nothing to worry about. Who Barack
has nothing to worry about. Governor richardsonid. Yes, there were
some people who had sex, and we know who they were, ready,
Prince Andrew. Others were charged with having sex with under rage,
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and it turned out that one of them lied. Ursus
was said that Virginia Groofrey said that he yet sexually.
It turns out that she was wrong. So all of
this thing has had already come out. Now you might
ask why is the Republicans interested in because they're obsessed
with conspiracy theories. They want to find something which in
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the end will burn them. They should never have brought
it up in the first place. And and you know,
President Trump is right, these will burn them even though
nothing will come out of it. They did not have
the will not find any smoking gun, so to speak.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Okay said you know, by the way, everything that you
have told me is accurate in terms of what is
out there in the public sphere. But my instincts as
a journalist Jack a little different maybe than yours. My
instinct as a journalist is a lot of stuff gets
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out into the public sphere, but it gets out in
a it's an edited version or an edited form. We
don't get the whole story. I have never seen an
official report of the passengers, the manifests of the Lolita
Express that apparently flew some very well known individuals to
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this private island somewhere in the Caribbean. Do you know,
and I mean I want to ask you some questions
if you don't mind, Okay, do you know the island
that I think Epstein owned the island? Do you know
what what country uh or what nation? That island was
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a part of. Because every one of those islands down
there has some national identification.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I found I'd have to find out what, what, who?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That's fair enough, okay. So if we were to find
that out, we then could find out what the laws
are of whatever country that was associated with, which my.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Would I would see, are there videos on those islands?
Are there videos in his townhouse? Are there you know,
actual videos?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
We look? What way is that going on? Wait a second, Jack, Jack,
I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm trying to
learn from you, believe it or not. Obviously, if there
are videos that show, you know, sexual sexual cavorting between
men and teenage girls. You talk about a smoking gun,
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that is that is a smoking gun? Okay? So I
assume that no one in their right mind would allow
themselves to be videotaped unless Epstein was videotaping quietly and
was going to blackmail people. And if that is true,
I would want to know about that. But my question
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here is why would anybody go on a plane with Epstein,
you know, with to this island which was I think
nicknamed Olita Island? Am I correct on that?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Can I answered this question?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Well? I haven't finished it yet.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
And was a brilliant rock conteur. He was wealthy. He
was going to give thirty million dollars to Harvard.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
He did give money to Harvard.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, and people like to be around him. Someone should
do a biography of this guy. He was brilliant in
many ways. And they came to the island, there were seminars,
there was discussions.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Oh so okay, okay, so what you're telling me, Jack,
Just I just want to make.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Sure was on the on the Lolita Express which which
president was there with his wife Okay, with Governor Richardson
and so with Barrack from a prime minister. They he
had all kinds of fascinating Stephen Pinker, great professor at Harvard,
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was on that plate.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I've never seen Pink. I've never seen Pinker's name on
the manifest. So I just I'm trying to Jack, Jack,
just so you know, Jack, listen to me for second. Okay, Uh,
I have to protect my station from lawsuits. I'm a lawyer. Okay,
I'm telling you I I've never seen Pinker's name on
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a manifest. I have I have heard and have seen
reports of others with their names unmanifest. I'm not here
to hurt reputations of anyone. Okay. All I'm saying is
I would like to see all of this officially unveiled.
If some are embarrassed, if it was just seminars, uh,
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I find that tough to believe. But if you tell
me it's true, I'm willing to consider that. I just
want to see some proof of it. That's all.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Oh, I I agree, Let's let's get it out there.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
But I, well, we're on the same page, Jack, Let's
get it out there. Okay, that's all Jack, Thank you.
I think you you know a lot about it, and
I think you had an opportunity here to express a
very uh, a very polite but a dissenting opinion. And
let's see what others think as well. Okay.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I don't want to heard it. I don't want Dershowitz
to be heard. I want no one to be hurt. No.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I think Alan Dershowitz and the reason I didn't mention Dershwitz.
Dershowitz is a friend of mine, Okay, And I've had
Refessor Pinker on this show, just like I've had you
on this show. But I don't want people who are
innocent to be hurt by this. But if there are
public figures who decided to take a flight to Lolita Island,
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that's what the island was called, correct, that was.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
A media name. They were going for seminars, you know,
at that place. They had seminars in his townhouse in
New York. There were many places where he had homes
and they had seminars, and they had had meetings at Harvard,
but people gathered to meet with him, and he had
seminars there. I mean a lot of media doesn't know
the hotetality. He was a fascinating die and and he
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had money for so was.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Jack. According to you know what I've read about the
film of Roman Emperor. He was a fascinating guy. Hey, look,
I appreciate Jack, Jack, I'm having a little bit of
fun with you. I appreciate the call a spirited defense
of uh Jeffrey Epstein from my friend Jack of Newton.
So thanks Jack for the call you got the conversation started.
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Thank you very much. Have a great night. Okay, okay,
all right, So here what Jack had to say, if
you buy it six one seven two four ten thirty
six one seven nine three one ten thirty I could
not have scripted a better defense of Jeffrey Epstein than
Jack's defense. We have a couple of lines that are open. Right,
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every six, one, seven, ten thirty is full six one, seven, nine, three, one,
ten thirty. We'll be right back on Night Side.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Okay, now, no one is going to get the amount
of time Jack got because Jack called first, but all
of you, I welcome you. We have full lines. Thank you, Jack,
Ken and Waltham Ken next on Night Side. Ken your
thoughts on this?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yeah, Dan, Hi, Hi, So my you know my interest.
I think, like most people, we sort of want to
know who's if people are being protected because they're rich
and powerful. Yep, but I really but my interest ends
where I think if too much information is put forward,
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where you know, maybe people's rights are violated. So I
wanted to defer. I think you're the perfect person to
talk to you about this because maybe you can weigh
your instincts as a journalist versus your knowledge as an attorney.
Sure where does where does you wanting to know everything
as a journalist and then making sure you know the
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rights of others are protected?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Where?
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Where does that line kind of meet.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, well, I'm certainly not going to be the arberat Okay,
I know that public figures are under New York Times
versus Sullivan, very fair game as long as you are
not trying to defame a public figure. And if some
past public figure or current public figure did something really
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stupid and didn't go to the seminars on Lolita Island
and spent the afternoon with a fourteen year old, I
think that's of public interest in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
So let me ask as far as the grand jury testimony,
because you could. I mean, I think those are those
are always with help from the public unless by default right,
but a judge can kind of overrule that judge.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Judge can release it if it's in the public interest.
I'm not sure that grand jury testimony is going to
be released. I do think they could potentially release a
lot of things. It's the same sort of standard you
would use on a different standard, but a similar standard.
In terms of the Kennedy and John President, Kennedy, Senator Kennedy,
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Martin Luther King, you assassinations, I think the public has
a right to know as much as we can there.
At the same time, there are certain methods that maybe
information was gained. You do not want to disclose those methods.
You don't want to put people who provided information. The
Kennedy assassinations and the King assassinations, now, when you think
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about it, are over fifty five years old, and Kennedy's
is getting well, it's not quite it at sixty yet,
but it's well, it is sixty excuse me, it is
sixty sixty three to twenty three.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
That's sixty ten sixty two years almost.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah. Yeah. So but here I think that if there
was an effort to protect and cover up, I want
to know about it. I'm sorry, I would like to
know about it. And I say at the ship's fall where.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
They may what what I envision with the grand jury
would be, you know, somebody testifying and they implicate that's
the right word Trump or Clinton, and it's just what
they say. There's really no evidence.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
That's why you wouldn't That's why you wouldn't release.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Okay, So it does have there has to be. So
when you say you want to know everything, I mean
I think you're saying you want to know everything credible.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I guess I should have added the word credibility that's credible.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Okay, Well that this is very helpful. I I you know,
I'm not that emotionally tied to this. I mean, I
you know, I certainly survived it during the Biden administration
when nobody was saying anything and I and I think,
you know, Trump sort of got himself into this pickle.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
But uh, what I could be It.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Could be the Trump is not involved in it, and
it could be the Trump wanted to out there because
he wanted it to embarrass other people who might be
on the other side politically. Now, if he made the
mistake of you know, calling the kettle black and was
engaged in the same type of activity himself, then he's
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gonna have a problem. Yeah. Yeah, So yeah, we'll see
how it breaks here and it's going to be fascinating
to watch. But I do have a feeling that I
think Trump is being more transparent than people thought. Now
maybe I'm I'm being fooled here, but I'm happy to
see him saying get it out there.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
I think this is a good opportunity at least for
me anyway, is to get a better understanding, which you've
really explained here on that using that word credible. It's
really important that you know, maybe everything shouldn't be out
there because the incredible stuff is just going to money
the water.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
So absolutely, Hey, Ken, I appreciate you calling a very
thoughtful call is always.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Thank you much appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Talk to you soon. Coming by back on Nightside one
line six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty. Again,
I'm going to tighten the calls up a little bit
here because they don't want people waiting very long. But
all of you have called in kind of late in
the hour, I'll get I'm going to try to clear
all four of you between now and eleven, so give
me a break, work with me. Coming back on Nightside
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knights Side with Dan Ray.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I'm WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
By the way, I just learned that Little Saint James,
which is the Island also known as Epstein Island, a
small private island in the United States Virgin Islands, southwest
of Saint Thomas, owned by American financier and sex offender
Jeffrey Epstein from nineteen ninety eight until his death in
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twenty nineteen. So it was a Virgin Islands as a
protectorate of the United States of America. Let's keep rolling here.
We're going to get everybody in I promise, let me
go to Christian Connecticut. Chris next A nice saga right ahead.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
How are you doing, mister Dan, I'm doing fine crushwork.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I'll get a little tight on time. Thank you for
the for the question. I'm more interested in what you
think about Jeffrey Epstein and how much do you want
to know or not want to know?
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Oh, we already know. A lot of people already know.
That's why you can't get too many callers tonight because
they know who's going to be on the Epstein's list.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Well, I'll tell you the Uh send me the copy
of the list sometime if you know, because as I've
done my research during the day, there's a lot of allegations.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Well I can tell you, mister Dan, who's been on
that plane all the time. Because if you're getting if
you're being convicted for trying to soft women and putting
their hands on women and hotel rooms and everything else.
And now all of a sudden, you know, Uh, the
guy's wife, he gets, she gets a nice new prison
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to go to, all taken care of. After mister Trump's
lawyer goes and dark little who talks to her and
all these all your callers that will call every time
about Donald Trump and this that. Why are they staying
quiet tonight? I tell you why because they don't they
know who's going to come out on that list when
their list comes out. They all know.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Well when that when that list comes out, do you
think Bill Clinton will be on the list.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Uh, he probably will be. He probably will be on
their list. But I guarantee you who mister Trump is
on their list.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah. To be really honest with you, I gotta be
honest with you, Chris. Until I see the list and
until someone in official THEOM confirms that that list is accurate,
I will not be able to know who's on that list.
And as a matter of fact, if, as my friend
Jack was saying, the list was of people who took
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air flights to go to seminars, if if indeed you.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Know I actually there was no there was no seminars
over there, trust me, Jack, Chris.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
To tell you is that I had one caller who
I don't think he I don't think Jack has any
reason other than his firm beliefs. I know him as
a caller. He says what he believes, and he believes
what he says. So and I assume you believe what
you hear and what you believe what you say, and
let's see how it works out, you know.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
I mean, yeah, I guarantee you all your callers they
won't if you take it up till twelve o'clock. I
guarantee you they're staying quiet now because they know, they
all know, and they don't want nobody to know that
they know.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I don't know anybody. Here's the thing, Chris, I think,
with all due respect, I don't think anybody knows. And
I think that a lot of it's been covered up,
and I would like to see the can of worms
opened up.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
They don't, they don't know what. They're very scared. I'll
tell you that March.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Okay. Well, well, you you obviously are a very thoughtful
and introspective guy, and I'm glad you called and we'll
continue along. Thank you very much, Chris, appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
I might call you just a person. I might call you,
but I'm telling.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
You, well, call more often, particularly with the sources that
you have. I want to hear from you more often, Chris,
and thank you for listening.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Have great night, okay, mister Dan. You have a good night.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Good night, good night to you, mister Chris. Okay, where
I'm going to net? Let me go to Janine in
High End's Hi, Jeanine, how are you welcome?
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Danne?
Speaker 6 (30:34):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I'm very good. The phone lines are very hot right now?
Do you want to know or no? I do?
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Yes, I want everything to be exposed. I've talked to
you many times. You know how I feel about Trump,
and I would love to know everything now.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I don't know how you feel the tru Trump our
Freshman recollection? Are you generally pro or anti pro? See?
I thought that's what it was. So you have just
contradicted Chris because Chris said, no pro Trump people are
going to call me tonight and no Trump people are
going to agree with me that would like to see
the the good, the bad, of the ugly come out.
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So Chris, I hope you listen.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
I heard him.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, I know. But it's what what people don't understand
is that there are a variety of viewpoints and that
some people, some Trump supporters, might not want to know
about it. Some might want to know about it.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
I want to know because like, I'm very pro Trump.
I like what he's doing. I don't like certain things
that he's doing. However, I want to know and I
want to see this list I've seen, you know, the
documentaries on Netflix. Yeah, uh with and her name I
believe it's pronounced Gilain.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, I think you're right. I'm probably throwing a consonant
in there, unnecessarily Galaine. That's I appreciate that. Again, I
haven't followed this closely, okay.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
Because yeah, well there's two different documentaries on Netflix, one
just about him, and then there's a second one about her.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah. Well again those I obviously most people when they
watch documentaries, they're not listening to Night Side. But I
tend on weekends to spend a lot of time with
my family or I just kind of I disengage from
a lot of this stuff on weekends, and people don't
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understand that. Sometimes it's overwhelming and friends of mine who
will call me and say what do you think about this?
And I'll say, you know, it's like, that's what I
do for a living, and I'm not going to do
like private phone conversations on Saturday and Sunday. So I
kind of disengage. But this now has reached a point
where the House Government Oversight Committee has issued subpoenas it's
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getting a little more serious. Let's see how we'll see
what happens.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Well, i'd like to see. I'd like to see that list,
no matter if Trump's on it or not. That he
was talking about the very first woman that came out,
Virginia Guffrey. That was the very first one that came
out about Jeffrey Epstein, and apparently Trump said that she
worked for him at his spot in mar A Lago
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and was basically stolen from him, like she quit because
she went to go.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, I think the word that most business people would
use would be poached, meaning and it was the idea
is that that that Epstein must have seen her talk
to her and said, gee, I've got a better position.
Yeah for you.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
I think would be about a word.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
No, absolutely, but I'm sure he didn't say that, but
I'm sure he probably said why don't you come and
work for me? And then once she was within his sphere,
you know, he he had his way, I guess would
be a polite way to put it.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
Yeah, And this is why I want to see the list.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Yeah, I just.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Want to you know, I want it all to be transparent.
I mean, I agree with you. Trump has been very
transparent about things. He's just like he's like there, it is, here,
it is, this is what's going on. You know, he
doesn't really sugarcoat anything. But this is a little tricky.
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So I want to see everything. Yep, I want to
know it all.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
We got it, Jane, thank you much. I'm up on
my brake, so I got to let you go. But
thank you so much for calling. And Chris, thank you.
Give me mister Chris something to think about down in Connecticut.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Okay, sorry Chris in Connecticut. I'm from Massachusetts, so let's go.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, okay, thanks Janine as always, all right, yeah, thanks
so much. All Right, we're gonna take a break. I'm
gonna stick with this. Uh, John you're next. We got
Tom down to the Cape. You're you're gonna be after John.
John is first up. Don in Belmont, you're there. We
got one line at six one seven and one at
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six one seven nine. Let's talk about it. The questions
kind of simple, do you want to know? Do you
want to know? And we've had some really interesting calls.
Probably spent more time than I should, but that's okay.
We'll pick the pace up on the other side, and
if if we lose steam on this one, I don't
know what we'll do, but we'll We'll come up with
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another topic as well. We're back on night side because
I do want to know back on nightside after this
It's night Side with Dan Ray I WBS Fostin's met Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Get the duck boats ready. Let me tell you all
of a sudden, things are looking pretty good for the
Red Sox. My name is Dan Ray. This night Sark.
I am here with the Red Sox. We lose every
night from eight until midnight, every weeknight from aid until midnight.
Whatever the weather, by the way, whether it's very nice,
warm summer night, crisp night in the fall, snowy night
(00:29):
in the winter, beautiful early spring night, we're here. So
tonight we're going to talk or I would like to talk.
It depends upon you if you want to have a conversation.
The Republican House Oversight Committee has issued subpoenas today for
this so called Epstein files. Now, there's a lot going on,
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a lot of moving parts here, and I have to
be honest with you. This is not a story that
I have immersed myself in. I think it is one
of those stories that involves the rich and the infamous.
A lot of names have swirled around Jeffrey Epstein during
his life. He committed suicide now it's about six years ago,
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allegedly under strange circumstances while he was supposedly being watched
very intently by jail guards. But whatever, we know he's dead,
or we believe he's dead. And for those of you
who do not know who Jeffrey Epstein was, this was
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a guy who grew up in kind of normal circumstances
in New York City, and for a while he was
a teacher at a private school, and then he somehow
worked his way into the financial industry, and somehow in
New York City in the nineteen seventies, when things were
(01:58):
not great for the financial end, Street made a lot
of money, made a lot of powerful friends, and spent
that money pretty lavishly. And he basically had access to
every big name politician that you could think of. There's
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no suggestion that he was ever in any way, shape
or form involved with the Bush family. He was photographed
not only with a younger much younger Donald Trump, Bill Clinton,
Hillary Clinton. I think that he had access to lots
of lots of very influential people. His world starts to
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fall apart in two thousand and five. He is He
owns a mansion in Palm Beach and has the pretty
weird habit of having a lot of young girls. I
mean young girls fourteen years old over to his mansion.
(03:09):
Sexual activity has been alleged. Epstein basically was accused of
a lot. We don't go into specifics, but there was
an indictment, a state indictment, a federal indictment. This guy
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ends up being in jail. He's convicted, He works a
plea deal. Again. It's just as it's one legal problem
after another, and all of it seems to involve young women,
I mean very young women. He also has a reputation
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of flying well connected men to this private island that
he owns where supposedly there were more young girls or
young women who are available. Just you know. He has
this whole collection of friends. Everyone. He seems to be
(04:14):
a magnet. Everybody seems to gravitate towards him. Well connected
people gravitate towards him, and the implication is that some
of them may have been involved in whatever was the
gravitational pull and he events. He ends up with pretty
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good lawyers. He has to register as a sex offender.
Then the FBI gets involved. He pleads guilty to a
couple of felonies, spend some time in jail. He gets
out of jail. While he was in jail. I guess
he was given twelve months, twelve hours a day to
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work at a charity. I mean, this guy's been treated
in easingly well over time, and then he gets charged
with similar activity in New York. A lot of it
is in Florida. His girlfriend who has been convicted after
his death, she's serving a twenty year sentence. All of
(05:19):
a sudden, the second in command of the Department of
Justice goes and spends two days talking to her, and
she has been moved from a prison in Florida which
was a tougher prison, and she has just been relocated
(05:40):
to a more comfortable prison, if any prison can be
considered comfortable. I'm not great on the details of who's
been involved here, but boy, for a guy who he
seemed to have a a weakness for young girls, and
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that's what got him in trouble. Now some of this
stuff and maybe he found access to other people. We
have pictures of Donald Trump with him in New York.
Donald Trump for a long time wanted everything to come out.
Doesn't seem to be as anxious to do it on
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one day, and then the next day he's asking the
Department of Justice to release grand jury minutes, which hard beliefs.
This just so much to this story. It's kind of overwhelming.
So the position that I want to take is I
want to see everything. I am not a voyeur, but
I don't care if it's beyond the statute of limitations.
(06:44):
Because some of this stuff goes back to the early
two thousands. I think probably some of it is well
beyond the statute of limitations. I think everything should come out. Now.
Maxwell is fighting it, and the latest development today is
her lawyers are fighting it because they're saying that Epstein's
stuff could come out. He's dead, but she's still alive,
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and it's not fair to her. My attitude, that sounds
to me like Maxwell and Epstein took advantage of a
lot of young girls. I mean fourteen, fifteen years old
young girls. We're not talking about twenty one twenty two
(07:27):
year olds who might be doing something in a consenting
basis with other adults. We're talking about young girls. And
I just say, let's let it all hang out, let's
get it all out there. My instinct is, my instinct
is that the Trump is not going to find himself
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implicated in this. But I want to know. I want
to know Now it becomes suspicious when the Assistant Attorney General,
Todd Blanche, who was President Trump's criminal defense lawyer, goes
and visit his visits Maxwell for two days and then
she is transferred to a better penal situation at the
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same time. The Trump administration today, I believe, and again
it's tough to keep up with all of this stuff,
said that they would like the transcripts of those interviews
between Todd Blanche, Donald Trump's former lawyer. Now that I
think the assistant Attorney General and Jesselaine. I haven't followed
(08:38):
it well enough to know how to pronounce her name,
but I think it's Gselaine Maxwell. Her father apparently was
a very well known publisher named Robert Maxwell, an English publisher.
It is a can of worms. I say, let's open
it up, let's take it off, let's put it all
out there and let the chips fall where they may.
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And I guess there were a lot of people who
spent a lot of time with Jeffrey Epstein on his
private plane going to various and sundry locations. And I
don't think they were heading to the Super Bowl. I
think they were going off to to engage in some
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activities that they probably aren't proud of right now six
seven thirty, six, one, seven, nine, three, ten thirty The
Jeffrey Epstein case. He's dead, but his legacy lingers long
after his death, suspicions about his death. There were supposedly
a lot of people who breathe easily in New York City.
(09:41):
Once he decided to commit suicide or allegedly commit suicide,
whichever you prefer, light him up? Does it interest you?
Or do you want to just let sleeping dogs lie?
And I would love to hear from as many opinions
on this one as possible. Are people like me who
were interested and want to know what happened and who
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was involved, particularly you know, high profile people, including politicians.
We've voyeurs. I don't think so. But if you have
no interest, why would you have no interest in this?
The American public is always interested in things like this.
Six one, seven, two, five, four thirty, six, seven, nine, three, one,
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ten thirty Back right after this, let's light those phone
lines up. There's no right there's no wrong answer. I
just hope we get some answers. Back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Well, today I was considering what stories we would take
up at ten o'clock and I thought this would be
a good one, and my producer, Marita, and I concurred.
So maybe you're not listening, but that's okay if there's
no interest in expressing your thoughts and ideas about this topic.
(11:07):
We only have one call sitting there, uh, and we'll
move on to something else. Six six, one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six seven, nine thirty. We're talking about
Jeffrey Epstein. Now he is dead, he's been dead for
six years, but his legacy lives on. Not a good legacy. Uh.
(11:30):
It may impact other people, political leaders, maybe some people
who are well known national figures. I would like to
know everything that's there, Okay. Uh, you can call me
(11:51):
a voyeur if you want. But it seems to me
this guy dodged justice for a long time, and if
there were people within official dim that helped him dodge it,
I think we need to know who and what was done.
So I say I'm all in. I'll see what Jack
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has to say, our first caller, and if we don't
move on from there, we'll move on to something else. Hey, Jack,
how are you tonight? Thank you for checking in tonight.
Let to know what your thought is on this.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yeah, Jack Porter, I wish I would have had me
on the air. I've studied the Stepsting case for a
very long time.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And we have you in the air right now. Jack,
you're with us.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I know I'll explain things. I know several people who
are on the planes. I know Gilay and it's pronounced Geelaye.
I know Gelayan's father, I know her mother. It's this
has been public knowledge, who's been on the planes, the
manifest of public knowledge for fifteen years. It would have
(12:56):
come out already. This is one big nothing burger. They're
not going to find anything new. Trump has nothing to
worry about. Clinton has nothing to worry about. Who Barack
has nothing to worry about. Governor richardsonid. Yes, there were
some people who had sex, and we know who they were, ready,
Prince Andrew. Others were charged with having sex with under rage,
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and it turned out that one of them lied. Ursus
was said that Virginia Groofrey said that he yet sexually.
It turns out that she was wrong. So all of
this thing has had already come out. Now you might
ask why is the Republicans interested in because they're obsessed
with conspiracy theories. They want to find something which in
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the end will burn them. They should never have brought
it up in the first place. And and you know,
President Trump is right, these will burn them even though
nothing will come out of it. They did not have
the will not find any smoking gun, so to speak.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Okay said you know, by the way, everything that you
have told me is accurate in terms of what is
out there in the public sphere. But my instincts as
a journalist Jack a little different maybe than yours. My
instinct as a journalist is a lot of stuff gets
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out into the public sphere, but it gets out in
a it's an edited version or an edited form. We
don't get the whole story. I have never seen an
official report of the passengers, the manifests of the Lolita
Express that apparently flew some very well known individuals to
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this private island somewhere in the Caribbean. Do you know,
and I mean I want to ask you some questions
if you don't mind, Okay, do you know the island
that I think Epstein owned the island? Do you know
what what country uh or what nation? That island was
(15:07):
a part of. Because every one of those islands down
there has some national identification.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I found I'd have to find out what, what, who?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That's fair enough, okay. So if we were to find
that out, we then could find out what the laws
are of whatever country that was associated with, which my.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Would I would see, are there videos on those islands?
Are there videos in his townhouse? Are there you know,
actual videos?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
We look? What way is that going on? Wait a second, Jack, Jack,
I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm trying to
learn from you, believe it or not. Obviously, if there
are videos that show, you know, sexual sexual cavorting between
men and teenage girls. You talk about a smoking gun,
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that is that is a smoking gun? Okay? So I
assume that no one in their right mind would allow
themselves to be videotaped unless Epstein was videotaping quietly and
was going to blackmail people. And if that is true,
I would want to know about that. But my question
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here is why would anybody go on a plane with Epstein,
you know, with to this island which was I think
nicknamed Olita Island? Am I correct on that?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Can I answered this question?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Well? I haven't finished it yet.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
And was a brilliant rock conteur. He was wealthy. He
was going to give thirty million dollars to Harvard.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
He did give money to Harvard.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, and people like to be around him. Someone should
do a biography of this guy. He was brilliant in
many ways. And they came to the island, there were seminars,
there was discussions.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Oh so okay, okay, so what you're telling me, Jack,
Just I just want to make.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Sure was on the on the Lolita Express which which
president was there with his wife Okay, with Governor Richardson
and so with Barrack from a prime minister. They he
had all kinds of fascinating Stephen Pinker, great professor at Harvard,
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was on that plate.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I've never seen Pink. I've never seen Pinker's name on
the manifest. So I just I'm trying to Jack, Jack,
just so you know, Jack, listen to me for second. Okay, Uh,
I have to protect my station from lawsuits. I'm a lawyer. Okay,
I'm telling you I I've never seen Pinker's name on
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a manifest. I have I have heard and have seen
reports of others with their names unmanifest. I'm not here
to hurt reputations of anyone. Okay. All I'm saying is
I would like to see all of this officially unveiled.
If some are embarrassed, if it was just seminars, uh,
(18:23):
I find that tough to believe. But if you tell
me it's true, I'm willing to consider that. I just
want to see some proof of it. That's all.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Oh, I I agree, Let's let's get it out there.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
But I, well, we're on the same page, Jack, Let's
get it out there. Okay, that's all Jack, Thank you.
I think you you know a lot about it, and
I think you had an opportunity here to express a
very uh, a very polite but a dissenting opinion. And
let's see what others think as well. Okay.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I don't want to heard it. I don't want Dershowitz
to be heard. I want no one to be hurt. No.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I think Alan Dershowitz and the reason I didn't mention Dershwitz.
Dershowitz is a friend of mine, Okay, And I've had
Refessor Pinker on this show, just like I've had you
on this show. But I don't want people who are
innocent to be hurt by this. But if there are
public figures who decided to take a flight to Lolita Island,
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that's what the island was called, correct, that was.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
A media name. They were going for seminars, you know,
at that place. They had seminars in his townhouse in
New York. There were many places where he had homes
and they had seminars, and they had had meetings at Harvard,
but people gathered to meet with him, and he had
seminars there. I mean a lot of media doesn't know
the hotetality. He was a fascinating die and and he
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had money for so was.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Jack. According to you know what I've read about the
film of Roman Emperor. He was a fascinating guy. Hey, look,
I appreciate Jack, Jack, I'm having a little bit of
fun with you. I appreciate the call a spirited defense
of uh Jeffrey Epstein from my friend Jack of Newton.
So thanks Jack for the call you got the conversation started.
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Thank you very much. Have a great night. Okay, okay,
all right, So here what Jack had to say, if
you buy it six one seven two four ten thirty
six one seven nine three one ten thirty I could
not have scripted a better defense of Jeffrey Epstein than
Jack's defense. We have a couple of lines that are open. Right,
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every six, one, seven, ten thirty is full six one, seven, nine, three, one,
ten thirty. We'll be right back on Night Side.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Okay, now, no one is going to get the amount
of time Jack got because Jack called first, but all
of you, I welcome you. We have full lines. Thank you, Jack,
Ken and Waltham Ken next on Night Side. Ken your
thoughts on this?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yeah, Dan, Hi, Hi, So my you know my interest.
I think, like most people, we sort of want to
know who's if people are being protected because they're rich
and powerful. Yep, but I really but my interest ends
where I think if too much information is put forward,
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where you know, maybe people's rights are violated. So I
wanted to defer. I think you're the perfect person to
talk to you about this because maybe you can weigh
your instincts as a journalist versus your knowledge as an attorney.
Sure where does where does you wanting to know everything
as a journalist and then making sure you know the
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rights of others are protected?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Where?
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Where does that line kind of meet.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, well, I'm certainly not going to be the arberat Okay,
I know that public figures are under New York Times
versus Sullivan, very fair game as long as you are
not trying to defame a public figure. And if some
past public figure or current public figure did something really
(22:18):
stupid and didn't go to the seminars on Lolita Island
and spent the afternoon with a fourteen year old, I
think that's of public interest in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
So let me ask as far as the grand jury testimony,
because you could. I mean, I think those are those
are always with help from the public unless by default right,
but a judge can kind of overrule that judge.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Judge can release it if it's in the public interest.
I'm not sure that grand jury testimony is going to
be released. I do think they could potentially release a
lot of things. It's the same sort of standard you
would use on a different standard, but a similar standard.
In terms of the Kennedy and John President, Kennedy, Senator Kennedy,
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Martin Luther King, you assassinations, I think the public has
a right to know as much as we can there.
At the same time, there are certain methods that maybe
information was gained. You do not want to disclose those methods.
You don't want to put people who provided information. The
Kennedy assassinations and the King assassinations, now, when you think
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about it, are over fifty five years old, and Kennedy's
is getting well, it's not quite it at sixty yet,
but it's well, it is sixty excuse me, it is
sixty sixty three to twenty three.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
That's sixty ten sixty two years almost.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah. Yeah. So but here I think that if there
was an effort to protect and cover up, I want
to know about it. I'm sorry, I would like to
know about it. And I say at the ship's fall where.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
They may what what I envision with the grand jury
would be, you know, somebody testifying and they implicate that's
the right word Trump or Clinton, and it's just what
they say. There's really no evidence.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
That's why you wouldn't That's why you wouldn't release.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Okay, So it does have there has to be. So
when you say you want to know everything, I mean
I think you're saying you want to know everything credible.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I guess I should have added the word credibility that's credible.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Okay, Well that this is very helpful. I I you know,
I'm not that emotionally tied to this. I mean, I
you know, I certainly survived it during the Biden administration
when nobody was saying anything and I and I think,
you know, Trump sort of got himself into this pickle.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
But uh, what I could be It.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Could be the Trump is not involved in it, and
it could be the Trump wanted to out there because
he wanted it to embarrass other people who might be
on the other side politically. Now, if he made the
mistake of you know, calling the kettle black and was
engaged in the same type of activity himself, then he's
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gonna have a problem. Yeah. Yeah, So yeah, we'll see
how it breaks here and it's going to be fascinating
to watch. But I do have a feeling that I
think Trump is being more transparent than people thought. Now
maybe I'm I'm being fooled here, but I'm happy to
see him saying get it out there.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
I think this is a good opportunity at least for
me anyway, is to get a better understanding, which you've
really explained here on that using that word credible. It's
really important that you know, maybe everything shouldn't be out
there because the incredible stuff is just going to money
the water.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
So absolutely, Hey, Ken, I appreciate you calling a very
thoughtful call is always.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Thank you much appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Talk to you soon. Coming by back on Nightside one
line six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty. Again,
I'm going to tighten the calls up a little bit
here because they don't want people waiting very long. But
all of you have called in kind of late in
the hour, I'll get I'm going to try to clear
all four of you between now and eleven, so give
me a break, work with me. Coming back on Nightside
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knights Side with Dan Ray.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I'm WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
By the way, I just learned that Little Saint James,
which is the Island also known as Epstein Island, a
small private island in the United States Virgin Islands, southwest
of Saint Thomas, owned by American financier and sex offender
Jeffrey Epstein from nineteen ninety eight until his death in
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twenty nineteen. So it was a Virgin Islands as a
protectorate of the United States of America. Let's keep rolling here.
We're going to get everybody in I promise, let me
go to Christian Connecticut. Chris next A nice saga right ahead.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
How are you doing, mister Dan, I'm doing fine crushwork.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I'll get a little tight on time. Thank you for
the for the question. I'm more interested in what you
think about Jeffrey Epstein and how much do you want
to know or not want to know?
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Oh, we already know. A lot of people already know.
That's why you can't get too many callers tonight because
they know who's going to be on the Epstein's list.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Well, I'll tell you the Uh send me the copy
of the list sometime if you know, because as I've
done my research during the day, there's a lot of allegations.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Well I can tell you, mister Dan, who's been on
that plane all the time. Because if you're getting if
you're being convicted for trying to soft women and putting
their hands on women and hotel rooms and everything else.
And now all of a sudden, you know, Uh, the
guy's wife, he gets, she gets a nice new prison
(27:55):
to go to, all taken care of. After mister Trump's
lawyer goes and dark little who talks to her and
all these all your callers that will call every time
about Donald Trump and this that. Why are they staying
quiet tonight? I tell you why because they don't they
know who's going to come out on that list when
their list comes out. They all know.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Well when that when that list comes out, do you
think Bill Clinton will be on the list.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Uh, he probably will be. He probably will be on
their list. But I guarantee you who mister Trump is
on their list.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah. To be really honest with you, I gotta be
honest with you, Chris. Until I see the list and
until someone in official THEOM confirms that that list is accurate,
I will not be able to know who's on that list.
And as a matter of fact, if, as my friend
Jack was saying, the list was of people who took
(28:50):
air flights to go to seminars, if if indeed you.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Know I actually there was no there was no seminars
over there, trust me, Jack, Chris.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
To tell you is that I had one caller who
I don't think he I don't think Jack has any
reason other than his firm beliefs. I know him as
a caller. He says what he believes, and he believes
what he says. So and I assume you believe what
you hear and what you believe what you say, and
let's see how it works out, you know.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
I mean, yeah, I guarantee you all your callers they
won't if you take it up till twelve o'clock. I
guarantee you they're staying quiet now because they know, they
all know, and they don't want nobody to know that
they know.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I don't know anybody. Here's the thing, Chris, I think,
with all due respect, I don't think anybody knows. And
I think that a lot of it's been covered up,
and I would like to see the can of worms
opened up.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
They don't, they don't know what. They're very scared. I'll
tell you that March.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Okay. Well, well, you you obviously are a very thoughtful
and introspective guy, and I'm glad you called and we'll
continue along. Thank you very much, Chris, appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
I might call you just a person. I might call you,
but I'm telling.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
You, well, call more often, particularly with the sources that
you have. I want to hear from you more often, Chris,
and thank you for listening.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Have great night, okay, mister Dan. You have a good night.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Good night, good night to you, mister Chris. Okay, where
I'm going to net? Let me go to Janine in
High End's Hi, Jeanine, how are you welcome?
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Danne?
Speaker 6 (30:34):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I'm very good. The phone lines are very hot right now?
Do you want to know or no? I do?
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Yes, I want everything to be exposed. I've talked to
you many times. You know how I feel about Trump,
and I would love to know everything now.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I don't know how you feel the tru Trump our
Freshman recollection? Are you generally pro or anti pro? See?
I thought that's what it was. So you have just
contradicted Chris because Chris said, no pro Trump people are
going to call me tonight and no Trump people are
going to agree with me that would like to see
the the good, the bad, of the ugly come out.
(31:18):
So Chris, I hope you listen.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
I heard him.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, I know. But it's what what people don't understand
is that there are a variety of viewpoints and that
some people, some Trump supporters, might not want to know
about it. Some might want to know about it.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
I want to know because like, I'm very pro Trump.
I like what he's doing. I don't like certain things
that he's doing. However, I want to know and I
want to see this list I've seen, you know, the
documentaries on Netflix. Yeah, uh with and her name I
believe it's pronounced Gilain.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, I think you're right. I'm probably throwing a consonant
in there, unnecessarily Galaine. That's I appreciate that. Again, I
haven't followed this closely, okay.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
Because yeah, well there's two different documentaries on Netflix, one
just about him, and then there's a second one about her.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah. Well again those I obviously most people when they
watch documentaries, they're not listening to Night Side. But I
tend on weekends to spend a lot of time with
my family or I just kind of I disengage from
a lot of this stuff on weekends, and people don't
(32:40):
understand that. Sometimes it's overwhelming and friends of mine who
will call me and say what do you think about this?
And I'll say, you know, it's like, that's what I
do for a living, and I'm not going to do
like private phone conversations on Saturday and Sunday. So I
kind of disengage. But this now has reached a point
where the House Government Oversight Committee has issued subpoenas it's
(33:04):
getting a little more serious. Let's see how we'll see
what happens.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Well, i'd like to see. I'd like to see that list,
no matter if Trump's on it or not. That he
was talking about the very first woman that came out,
Virginia Guffrey. That was the very first one that came
out about Jeffrey Epstein, and apparently Trump said that she
worked for him at his spot in mar A Lago
(33:34):
and was basically stolen from him, like she quit because
she went to go.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, I think the word that most business people would
use would be poached, meaning and it was the idea
is that that that Epstein must have seen her talk
to her and said, gee, I've got a better position.
Yeah for you.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
I think would be about a word.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
No, absolutely, but I'm sure he didn't say that, but
I'm sure he probably said why don't you come and
work for me? And then once she was within his sphere,
you know, he he had his way, I guess would
be a polite way to put it.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
Yeah, And this is why I want to see the list.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Yeah, I just.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Want to you know, I want it all to be transparent.
I mean, I agree with you. Trump has been very
transparent about things. He's just like he's like there, it is, here,
it is, this is what's going on. You know, he
doesn't really sugarcoat anything. But this is a little tricky.
(34:37):
So I want to see everything. Yep, I want to
know it all.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
We got it, Jane, thank you much. I'm up on
my brake, so I got to let you go. But
thank you so much for calling. And Chris, thank you.
Give me mister Chris something to think about down in Connecticut.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Okay, sorry Chris in Connecticut. I'm from Massachusetts, so let's go.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, okay, thanks Janine as always, all right, yeah, thanks
so much. All Right, we're gonna take a break. I'm
gonna stick with this. Uh, John you're next. We got
Tom down to the Cape. You're you're gonna be after John.
John is first up. Don in Belmont, you're there. We
got one line at six one seven and one at
(35:22):
six one seven nine. Let's talk about it. The questions
kind of simple, do you want to know? Do you
want to know? And we've had some really interesting calls.
Probably spent more time than I should, but that's okay.
We'll pick the pace up on the other side, and
if if we lose steam on this one, I don't
know what we'll do, but we'll We'll come up with
(35:43):
another topic as well. We're back on night side because
I do want to know back on nightside after this
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