August 5, 2025 • 40 mins
Tuesday, the House Oversight Committee issued a flurry of subpoenas seeking files from the Justice Department and testimony from ex-government and law enforcement officials. Jeffery Epstein is a former financier and convicted sex offender who was accused of serial sex trafficking of women and underage girls, giving access to high profile figures. We will discuss the latest into this investigation.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Nights with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right. So we're doing is We're talking about a
very simple question, would you like to see the Jeffrey
Epstein files released? He's been dead for six years. His
co conspirator, Jelaine I guess that's how her name is pronounced, Jelaine.
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Jelene Maxwell has been moved from a tougher women's federal
prison in Florida to a kinder and gentler federal prison
in Texas. Don't know what that means, but we do
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know that there was two days of interviews between an
assistant Attorney general who had been the attorney for President Trump.
Mhm uh who who? And now I believe the Trump
team has said, let's release the transcript. So there's a
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lot of cross currents here. I just want to see
it all come out. I really, I obviously want credible information.
I don't want speculation or you know, something that the
media can can can present in a in an unfair way.
But let's get it out there, simple as that.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I'm going to go to John in Pennsylvania. John.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
The subject is the question, do you want to see
the Epstein files released publicly?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Well, of course absolutely.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Uh. Let's let's get a few facts straight. Number one, Maxwell,
I don't care how her first name is pronounced, is
a sex offender. She's a multiple time sex offender.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
She's a convicted sex offender. You're correct, you're.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Addicted right by the way, the Paul of he had
to be waived in order for a multiple.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Time convicted sex offender to be transferred to a minimum
security prison. But because in May, uh, the young women
testified as to what Epstein and Maxwell did to them,
how they were recruited, how they were then.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
That we know.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
So let me get to let me get to my point.
These young these young women were sex trafficked to wealthy
primarily men, overwhelmingly men. I'm assuming a few women may
have been involved, but you know they weren't men of
ordinary means such as myself. I doubt even you had
the wealth and celebrity to to to go to uh
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to me invite to Epstein's island.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I want you to know the record, I was never invited, uh,
and if I had been invited, I would not have
taken that opportunity, John, But thank you for it was
clarifying that.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Okay, appreciate it was.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
It was, it was multi millionaires and perhaps billionaires. So
and by the way, if you look at Epstein's history,
this is the history of a man who, however brilliant
and charming he might have been, might may have been. Uh,
his personal history is that again and again and again
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he was given opportunities, high level opportunities and investments that
on paper he didn't have the credentials for, he didn't
have the.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Right I understand that. I don't think we can break
that down here for my audience. I don't want to
lose my audience what I want to find out. You
and I just don't agree on much. We don't agree
on much. John, You know that we try to be
polite with one another, but I think that on this
we are in agreement. We stand united. That let's get
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it all out there. Whom ever made the mistake of
falling prey to this guy? And I'm sure he was
using this as lure, and who knows, maybe maybe he blackmail.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
He was using it as black mail. We all know
he was. He was blackmailing people.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
That he's never been charged with blackmail. So therefore I'm
just going to be a little more cautious than than
than you.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
But but like you, you've made a statement on in
several several instances. Like you, I have to pay attention
to what people do and how they react, not.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Just what they say.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
And what I see is a lot of very powerful
people on both sides of political aisle, many I would
probably speculate many who are a political but but on
high levels of business and finance, really don't want all
this to come out.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Oh well, obviously this will has been the fact that
it hasn't come out so far. It raises those questions.
So look, let's leave it at this for tonight. John,
we agree, Let's let it all come out and let
the chips fall where they may.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
I'm not looking you agree with what if you? Let's
see if you agree with me on one more point. Uh,
The proper answer to Glean, whatever her first name is,
maxwell getting a pardon. The answer to that question should
be no.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Oh, I agree with that, You're not going to pardon. No,
And I think even I think I think that a
pardon is very different from a commutation legally, and so
I think that a pardon would be absolutely off the
table from a practical level. From a legal level and
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from a moral level. That's that's my thought on it. Okay,
so we're an agreement on everything.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
I'm glad you agree with me.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
So the proper answer should be no, not I have.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
The power, I don't know how, I don't well.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I The proper answer will be decided if and when
a pardon is ever given.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
That's the improper answer.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
If a pardon is not given, then the proper answer
is is is actually facilitated? So you know, I mean,
I'm not interested in words, just like you just said,
I'm interested in actions. So let's see what is done
or isn't done. Thanks John, thank you, talk to you soon.
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Let's take a break, coming right back on Night's side.
I got one line at six one, seven thirty, and
one's still hanging out there at.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Six one seven nine ten thirty. Again. I know some
of you are coming.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
At this from the perspective of either well, I think
John is coming from it from the perspective as Chris
is that this has got this is Donald Trump. Janine
is where I am, and that is I don't care
where the chips fall, but I think that the uh,
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the activity here was so beyond the pale This is
different than Donald Trump with whatever her name was, the
porn star. We're talking about girls as Gianna's fourteen. Okay,
that's what the implications are. There has been no proof
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that I know of, other than proof against Epstein and
his cohort Maxwell. Join the conversation back on Nightside right after.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
This, You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's
news Radio.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Let's go to.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Tom on the Cape. Tom, appreciate your patience. Thank you, sir.
Garret ahead.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
Tom, what John's and awful strong personality, I'd say, huh, well.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
He is. It's like, I know he's trying to make
a point and I'm simply trying to limit the point.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
And that is I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I mean, if you leave so strongly that that one
particular presidential if president.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Did this, okay, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe
Bill Clinton did.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Go down there for seminars, or maybe he didn't go
down I haven't seen the documents, but I'm interested in those.
I want to know more about the Kennedy assassination. I
want to know more about the Martin Luther King assassination.
I want to know more about the assassination of Senator
Robert F.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Kennedy.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
Yeah, I would have gone down I would. I would
have gone down there. Maybe I would have met the
tooth Paarry too, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,
But I'm telling you I'm that that gentleman that said
I'm a people like myself whom Trump's supporters are afraid. Well,
I'm not afraid.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
To talk about it.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
He's on that list, and shame if he's on that list,
and shame on him. But I don't think he's on
that list. And who ever on that list should be
punished for what they did.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, you know, talk.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Look, there could be people who were on that list
and who engaged in the activities that are implied, but
statute of limitations being what they are again, I I
don't know what the federal anything. Any crime that was
committed on the Virgin Islands would be covered by federal law.
I assume that would override local law.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Well yeah, well whatever. The bottom line is, the embarrassment
alone would be enough to damage their reputation.
Speaker 8 (09:38):
My point, I.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Think that when you know someone I think it was
John who talked about he would not be surprised that
someone who would have cohorted.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
But what is the word.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I want to uh, who would engaged in activities in
Las Vegas with the the the stripper, yeah, porn star whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Okay, that's different than fourteen.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
She's thirty five or forty years old. You're not talking
about it. She's not fourteen.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah. The the the analogy that I used to use
with Bill Clinton, and I met Clinton on several occasions,
I found to be a charming guy. If he had
been in the Lincoln bedroom with some Hollywood starlett back
in the day, it's none of my business. It's between
him and Hillary. But when he has an intern in
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the Oval Office, it's the ultimate position of authority. He's
the chief executive of a company that she's an intern
with the United States government.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
He's the most powerful, the most powerful man in the world.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So we have new Trump.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
We have here Trump supporters, you and Janine, both of
whom are courageous, brave and bold.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
Well, okay, you know he's kicked around. Finally it's time.
You know, the old saying goes, you're gonna be careful.
The the blank, the kick on, kiss on, the kick
on the way up is the blank? You might have
to kiss on the way down, right.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Or what goes around, sometimes comes around, so you know,
we'll see.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
Yeah, I hope we find out where the chips fall.
And if they fall where they fall, and it's positive, fine,
if it's positive. If it's negative, then it's negative. He
deserves the same treatment as anybody else.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, well, there will be something. There will be some people.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
On the other side who can't stand him for a
number of reasons.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
And we'll assume that that even if they put Jelaine
Maxwell under you know, hypnosis sodium pentathol lie detector tests,
it wouldn't be good enough.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
Because they would take us. They would take They still
took his money though, didn't they years ago when he
wasn't a politician, They took his Hillary took his money,
Bill took his money. All the politicians in New York
City took his money. They were happy to take his money.
Then they when he went to he was invited to
Hillary's daughter's wedding. He was at the wedding. You know,
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I understand.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Again that that is not in of itself. Picking bad
people to come to your wedding is not, uh, you know,
evidence of criminality.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
No, no, no, no, I'm not talking put.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
You in the position to defend Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
No, no, no, I'm not talking I'm not talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
I'm talking about Donald Trump. They took they took money
from him, and he was invited to Hillary Clinton's all right.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Right, right, right, Okay. I missed.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I totally missed your point and it was a it
was an excellent point that I should have gotten it.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
This thing about pronouns, Tom, I always tell my kids,
hu's proper nouns. Hey Tom, great, call is always. Thank
you much, my friend. How how is the reception? How
is the busy reception of the Cape tonight?
Speaker 6 (13:11):
If I could ask, well, I'll tell you right now.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
I'm on my I'm on my W MY iHeart Radio,
and I'm in Connecticut. Actually I'm doing a job in Connecticut.
Good for you, but I'm getting you know, the Cape.
The cake is kind of hot with W it's w
W H E K. And certain places you get excellent reception,
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some some of you don't get real good receptions.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Great, I'll take I'll take it, all right, Thanks Tom,
talk soon, Thank you much. Keep rowling here. We're going
to go to Don in Belmont. Don appreciate your patients.
Go ahead, don.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
Yesks, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah, thank you for being patient. I'm sorry that you
have to wait through the newscast. Go right ahead.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
H Yeah, I'm a patient guy. I feel I want
to get this thought out there. I've got to. I've
got two thoughts about two things that I want to express. Well,
the first one, I know everybody's you're talking about about
the jolly Maxwell and get the evidence out there. And
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the report is Yeah, eventually it will come out in
that and I think it'll it'll reach the point where
it'll be denied. It'll be it'll be spoon fed out
and it'll be softened, it'll be rolled over, and it
won't be as shocking as people think it's going to be.
It's going to be dragged out and then Trump we'll
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pull another shad mark and then get lucky and then
kind of slide. But that's not why the reason why
I call. I know, let me if I can.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Okay, this is kind of this is what I consider
to be serious stuff.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
Okay, yes it is, and.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
First of all, I want this stuff, whatever it is,
credible information to come out. I mean a lot of
people say, oh I saw a list. I'd like to
see show to us the lists of the flight manifests, who,
who's on the plane, who all of that. I mean,
there's ways to look at this document. You'll find documents,
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et cetera. So I'd like to again, I want to
put the word credible in there. But if someone had
made the mistake of cavorting in this location with what
apparently Epstein made available, it's your.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Come out, yeah, and the other the other thad I
tried to call you last week, but it right, it
was it was too long, and it was too late.
It was getting late, beyond a half our way time,
and I just couldn't waiting longer. And okay, So the
main thought, the main thing I was going to say
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is remember last week when they come out, and that
was in the news Donald Trump is positioning to two
nuclear submarines closer to Russia.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
That right, yes, yes, I do.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Well, what had happened was BeTV, the former president of Russia,
had made some comments, uh that that America better watch
what they say or something like that, and so you
Trump Trump responded to, what's your point?
Speaker 6 (16:38):
My point is that being a Vietnam VET, I was
in the course guarden. Uh, you get to know a
lot of navy stuff. I was in the base where
they were the subs are, and when in New London, Connecticut,
saw them out at sea. Some of them we had
to escort. I was from from Newfoundland down to the
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South Atlantic. I wasn't sent the NOM but the coast
guy was in Vietnam. But my point is those guys,
those subs, the Boomers, they have an area to patrol,
and every day it's a cat and mouse sort of thing.
Russians are trying to find them, and they're evading them,
and we're trying to find their guys, their subs. They're
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in the Atlantic. Okay. So with that said, admirals and
people other than hexact are like and laughing is that thinking?
And the captains of the subs saying, like, what is
he thinking? They know we're in a certain area, so
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if we move closer, we're giving them an edge. We're
going to be closer. That's like me walking into UH
seven eleven.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I under said the point you make it, I don't
agree with you necessarily.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
If you know I was not I was in a
different branch. Okay, So I'm not a naval expert. Or
anything like that. I once had a commander of a
US nuclear submarine call this program because I asked him
he was from Virginia, so what do you do for living?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Says it work in the navy. He said, really, what
do you do?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
He said, I'm a commander of a nuclear submarine, which.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Is pretty cool where she was listening tonight. Cool, you know.
I think that.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Again, I think that everybody should step back and say, Okay,
everything that Donald Trump doesn't do, everything that he does
is not always right, and everything that he does is
not always wrong, that's all. And it didn't strike me
for him to send a message to putin of you know,
you know, watch it, you know. And I think that
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his unpredictability actually plays to our benefit. Right now, who
would you rather have as commander in chief in your opinion,
Joe Biden in the condition he was in or Donald.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Trump none not only above.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Well, you can't make that choice because someone has to occupy.
I mean, you can tell me that that you'd like
to have John Fetterman as the President of the United States,
or you'd like to have whomever you want to pick.
But if that's your choice, that was your choice. Did
you vote for Biden.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
I would I would chay Biden because he would have advisors,
Because what if Biden made a choice, he would have advisors,
good people around him, military or whatever explained to him.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Where were his advisors when Russia invaded Ukraine? Where was
his advisers when we didn't know how the hell to
get out of Afghanistan without losing you know, soldiers at
Abbey's Gate. Biden didn't impress me as presidor in the
United States. I think he was well past his prime. Okay,
I think he was the equivalent of Willie May's playing
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center field for the Mets. Yes, he was stayed at
the party tool Look, Hey, I got it. I gotta
run down. Thank you for your call. Please continue to
call this program. It was a good It was a
good call.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Thank you, Thank you so thank you for connect.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Okay, now, for the first time, we actually have some lines.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I want to know. Do you want to know? Yes
or no? But tell me why?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
What's in the Epstein files?
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I want to know.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I think we need to know. Okay, if you think
I'm being I have a prurient interest, or you think
I'm a voyeur, feel free. No, I want to know
and just as Janine and Tom and the Cape said,
let the chips fall where they may six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty, six, one, seven,
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nine thirty. Coming right back on Night's side. Need to
hear from you again. You know my position. This is
not the Dan Ray broadcast. This is Nightside with Dan Ray,
and you the audience, are nightside. I want to know
your position. Period. Okay, take advantage of this opportunity. Back
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on Nightside after this.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on ws news Radio.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Back to the call as we go, let me go
north of the border.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
We got a lot of listeners in Canada and one
of the most loyalists Darryl.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
A lot of you up there listen and you choose
not to call. Hey, Daryl, thanks for calling Hey.
Speaker 9 (21:43):
Dan, good to uh tune in and from there I'm
on my M radio up here.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
So bad excellent.
Speaker 9 (21:53):
But yeah, I agree that you know, let the dominoes
fall as they may.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (21:58):
Yeah, Uh, basically you never know because the reason I
called in is when you mentioned Bill Clinton, and you know,
I'd hate to see if Hillary was on the manifest
as well. But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I mean, we had a caller in the ten o'clock hour,
Jack from Newton, who said that this was all in
the up and up and they were going down to
seminars and presentations, academic presentations. Okay, if that's true, even
though Epstein has been convicted for you know, some horrible things,
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if the people who he flew on his plane down
to this island were in fact going down there for seminars,
I don't necessarily believe that, to be really honest with you,
but Jack believed it strongly. I'd like to see that
come out and we could clear the names of people
who might have been associated with.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Epstein for other reasons.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
If they were they were associating with Epstein because they
felt that he was a good stock picker, or or
he was an investment guy, that's one thing. If, on
the other hand, they were they were, you know, with
him in order to have access to fourteen year old girls,
that's a whole different story.
Speaker 9 (23:18):
Well, that goes back to doesn't open the door to
different business execs and you know, different other things.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Wells, business execs could go down with him because they
shared an interest in business, or they.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Some of them could go down with him.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I guess for you know, reasons that that most of
us would disapprove of.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
But no, let it come out.
Speaker 9 (23:43):
The same time. Well, if they're going down for seminars
as well, that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
If you gond out for both, then you still you
still are Maybe part of your trip is legitimate, the
other part is way.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Over the top.
Speaker 9 (23:58):
Well it opens the door to they always say those
old movies like Rockford Files, when you had the conventions
in town and you had all the girls coming by, right, Well.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
It depends how old the girls are. Depends up. I mean,
you know, it's.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
It's well, well, that's what I'm getting. That's what I
didn't say was about the age difference. Right even up
in Ontario, if I can say the same similar thing. Uh,
they just busted at eleven hundred guys in Ontario in
the province, Uh, for doing the online thing for underage purposes.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Well, that's that's a huge problem.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I'm not doing the over the age thing on online
is also I assume prostitution is illegal, but it's it's
a heck of a lot worse to be uh, you know,
taking advantage of fourteen year old girls. That's all I'm
trying to say is that that is what has been
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alleged here.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I think that a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I know that Alan dersh its name, was involved, and
he has protested his innocence. And I happened to I
know Alan, and I believe Alan Dershowitz okay.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
As a character. And Alan, uh I, I believe you've
had him on quite a bit sure and uh, incredible guy.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Now I also know knew Bill Cosby very well. I
think the evidence against Cosboy has been overwhelming and I'm
very disappointed. I introduced Cosby twice during my career, once
at Boston Symphony Hall and uh and and once at
the North Through Music Circus.
Speaker 9 (25:39):
There's a lot of names, a lot of names out there,
and uh but uh but yeah, let the books be
open and hopefully hopefully things get back to the way
things were in politics, all.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Right, Yeah, well, of course the way things will always
been in politics.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
It's it's it's a rough and tumble sport, you know.
There there haven't.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Been too many Uh, look what they all have. They
all have clay feet. We all have clay feed. But
the politicians who sometimes aren't willing to admit it, they
they have some of the clay's feet. If you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (26:15):
Well, well, it seems like an ex girlfriend is so
peed off that she is just constantly hounding the guy.
And it seems like a back and forth.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Which guy are we talking about here? Which guy are
we talking about?
Speaker 9 (26:29):
Uh? The guy in charge right now?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
That would be Donald Trump. You can mention his name.
Who's the ex guy? Who's the ex gray?
Speaker 9 (26:37):
No, anybody he is trying to hound right, Yes, the
whole thing.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Darryl. You losing me with the pronouns. Don't do this
to me.
Speaker 9 (26:47):
Sorry, sorry, Donald Trump is hounding everybody. It's almost like
an attack at all the time. Okay, he's always and
that's my opinion. And uh like, let's get back to Hey,
how can we fix things right?
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Good? Yeah? All right, well on that point of agreement,
we can end. Thanks Darren, we'll talk, so thanks very much.
Let me go next to Joey An and Waltham. Joey
in next on nisag go right.
Speaker 10 (27:12):
Ahead, Hi, Dan? How you doing?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I'm doing fine? Joe Anne left to know what you
think about this? Would you like to see this all
come out?
Speaker 10 (27:21):
Yes, it's for the victims, you know, it should come
out for the victims.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
But I also think for our knowledge as to whether
or not they were people who we had strongly supported
or people you know, who we didn't like.
Speaker 10 (27:39):
I just think it's well true. Yeah, I mean, all
I know for sure is Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton.
And I heard Bill Clinton went down there twenty eight times.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Well, my understanding, and again, don't put me in a
position to.
Speaker 10 (27:58):
Most can't be all minage, no.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Right, right, no, but don't put me in My understanding
is that this I've read some article which says that
there's no Secret Service records of him traveling to that island.
Now again, I'm assuming as a former president you are
shadowed by Secret Service.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Constantly. I don't know that as a former.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
President you have the right to say to Secret Service,
hey I'm going down to an undisclosed island with this
friend of mine, Jeff Epstein, or with a friend of mine.
I'm just flying down for the weekend. I don't know
that Secret Service has the authority to say, yeah, sure,
go ahead.
Speaker 10 (28:45):
Yeah, Well wherever I heard it, forget where I heard it.
They have record of him on the Epstein plane.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I'm saying, is secret Service records. I've read the opposite.
Now I don't know which is the truth. Yours might
be the truth, Joeann.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
I'm not saying.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Mine is the truth. I'm just saying that I would
love to know what the Secret Service policy is. If
the Secret Service policy is, hey, look, we are told
to protect the former president of the United States, whoever
he is, wherever he goes, and we do not let
him out of our you.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Know, sight.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Think about this as a movie for a moment. Let's assume.
Let's assume that Bill Clinton at some point and the
only reason we're mentioning Clinton's name is because it's been
it's been bandied about.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I will make it very clear, I have no clue.
I have no clue, Paul.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Let's assume Bill Clinton said the Secret Service, Hey, I'm
going to spend a little private time with my buddy
of mine. We got some friends down on this private island.
He's got his own personality, security people. You know, give
me a break. Why don't you guys take the weekend off.
I'll see you Monday morning. It's assume that Secret Service
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were in that up the flag pole and they said, yeah,
go ahead, but what harm can happen?
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Right?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
And then somehow Clinton is taken prisoner by a foreign
government hypothetically now hypothetically.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Right, Yeah, yeah, I think that would be kind.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Of embarrassing to the Secret Service.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
My opinion. I could be wrong, could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
They might come out and say, well, you know he
told us, you know, he took the chance, and we
know he's in a vana, Cuba right now and he
is not allowed to lead, but we're going to try
to get him out.
Speaker 8 (30:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I would love to know what this.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Is because if the Secret Service says, we have no
records of him flying to this location on this this
type of transportation, could the Secret Service lie to me?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I guess they could.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I guess we.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
All learn that.
Speaker 10 (30:59):
But they could lie.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
But that's a big one. That's a big lot.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
That's a big Lotah.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 10 (31:07):
All I know is if Donald Trump had been to
that island, we would have heard about it six years.
Speaker 8 (31:15):
Ago, I think. So.
Speaker 10 (31:17):
I think Democrats would have pulled that out as quick
as they could.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Well, I think yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
But again, I think that there were a lot of guys,
men and women in positions of authority and positions of power.
John Brennan Clapper come to mind, Comy and most of
those people would have known, and I think that would
have been enough to have blown because look, Epstein has
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been the subject of investigations going back to two thousand
and two. He was indicted a couple of years later
later in Florida, subsequently federal indictments. I think that argument
that you just made is as strong an argument as
could be made on behalf of.
Speaker 10 (32:04):
Donald Trump and who and who knows. I did hear
someone on the radio. He had a good point. He said,
it could be that President Trump doesn't want it release
because who knows. Some of these could be big Russian guys,
big Chinese guys, big Japanese guys.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
You know, why would he Why would he be concerned
about that?
Speaker 10 (32:30):
Well, you don't want to offend them, I think, I.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Think, I think you made a great argument, but I
think you're stretching on that one.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Joe and I got to run.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Thank you much, Okay, take care, talk you soon.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Got a couple of open lines six one seven thirty, six, one, seven, nine, three,
ten thirty. We have done two hours on the Epstein files.
I wasn't sure we could, but I want to finish
strongly and I want to be able to do my
nightside postgame because I will tell you honestly what I
(33:06):
think of the show on postgame. We don't share postgame,
but I need I want to hear from a couple
more of you. Again, I'm emphasizing to you you've heard
my position. Please don't put me in the position where
I have to repeat my position. I'm going to talk
with Henry and Sutton. Feel free six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten
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thirty back after.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
This, you're on night Side with Dan Ray on BZ
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
All right, let's go to Henry and Sutton. Henry, appreciate
your patience. Next on nice Ide, Go ahead, Henry.
Speaker 8 (33:41):
Yeah. If there is no list the list of names
that are redacted, all the girls are that there are
part of the partially the victims. The only ones who
can release the names of the two federal judges in
the lower Eastern District of New York. That's the ones
that beyond me. She can't do it, Trump couldn't do it.
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Nobody can release those names except for the two federal
judges in the Eastern Shore whatever it is of New York.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
So that might when Congress. Maybe, And again, I assume
what you're telling me is correct. I'll accept that, Henry.
If there is no list that is in the possession
of the Justice Department or whatever.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Uh, and if.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
The Government Oversight Committee decides to subpoeno one or both
of those judges, maybe you will have some sort of
an interesting Yeah, yeah, God for dation.
Speaker 8 (34:45):
Look, look, the guy put guilty the one case in
two thousand and five with a girl seventeen and a
half years old. There never was anything with fourteen, anything
that was three pew present. There was none of that.
The girls were he like twenty two year old girls. Okay,
maybe a few seven.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
But no, no, no, no, no, I think Henry, I
don't know what it was. Go go read the timeline.
I read his timeline earlier, earlier today. Uh, he was
in and out of the same problem. This was a
guy who had had an addiction to very young women.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
Okay, yes, he likes young girls, but not pretty few
and they will well again, you know you guilty with
seventeen and a half Yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Again, I think they were girls who who filed civil
lawsuits against them who were much younger than that. Henry,
you sound like you know a lot about it. I'm
not going to debate y'all.
Speaker 8 (35:40):
Well, because because I listened to the Alan Dosha which
podcast and he explained everything. He was this attorney. Have
them on the they'll explain everything. There is no list
right list only list.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Got it?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
You said it once, You've said it twice, now you
said it three times. You got to keep rolling. Thank you, man,
shit you call?
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Good night.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Let me go to Gary in Michigan. Gary, thanks for
calling in. Haven't heard from you in a while.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Welcome.
Speaker 11 (36:07):
Yeah, how are you guys tonight?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Well, I'm going fine, We're going fine. Glad you called in.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
I got a couple behind you, and i'd love to
get your quick response. Do you want to see the
Epstein files released publicly?
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Whatever? Whatever they say?
Speaker 11 (36:21):
And I'm a little upset about the way you were
talking about our ex president. Which ex president when you
got a president right now has to wear diapers?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
You know which which ex president? We're talking about Biden.
What I was upset about.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I upset you because you thought he was compassmentis during
his years.
Speaker 11 (36:46):
He was sleepy, Bob. You know you were you were
going after him not being no good.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I was going I asked.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I asked, I asked the caller who he would rather
have deal with foreign affairs, as you know, as commander
in chief. The current president, who seems to be on
top of his game in that area, witnessed what he
did in Iran. Or Joe Biden, who basically stood by
while Russia invaded Ukraine and then wasn't able to pull
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the troops successfully out of Afghanistan.
Speaker 11 (37:23):
Well, you're you're blaming Biden for Afghanistan. Trump set the
whole deal up with the enemy. Matter of fact, he
didn't even use the the standing government over there. He
went around the.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Government, the government.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
You know again, I am not gonna if you think
that that Joe Biden was a better commander in chief.
My hat's off to you, my friend, That's all. But
you know, I can tell you this Putin didn't didn't
take it an acre of land. When you know, when
Donald Trump was president from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty one,
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you can go look that one up.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
When when Obama was president.
Speaker 11 (38:05):
Check I say Trump didn't stop the more in Ukraine
like he said he was gonna do him one day.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Well, ok, you know what, again, it's difficult for me
to convince people who either hate Trump for everything or
people who love him for everything. I'm somebody who looks
at his accomplishments and his failures. Okay, simple as that.
Do you think he did the right thing in in Iran?
Speaker 8 (38:40):
Or no, pardon me?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Do you think President Trump did the right thing in
wiping out the nuclear capabilities for Iran?
Speaker 6 (38:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:51):
You do? Okay, Well, thank you very much. I appreciate that. Okay,
I got to get two more in Thank you very much. Gary,
call early, give you much more time. Jay is in Maine.
J You got to be quick for me. We're running
out of time.
Speaker 12 (39:02):
Yeah, good evening to your brother. You know, everybody they
tell you no politics, no religion. I'll do the religion
thing to check out with you. The pets and the
animals all go to heaven because they don't have to
go to judgment. They don't think right from wrong. They
have a sixth sense called nature. They just survive. They
don't make choices to do evil.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
I'm not gonna do a theological If you call earlier
some night, I would love to get into a theological
conversation about that.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Okay.
Speaker 12 (39:30):
Oh, it's just it was plain and simple. I like
that you say all the pets and all the animals
go to heaven, and I concur with that.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
No, good, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 12 (39:39):
Enjoy visiting what you bean, God bless have a good night.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
God got you. Thank you Jay.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Call early.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
I'd love to have a chat. Thank you much. We
had done folks.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
To the callers in the line and who are calling
it God, I wish you called earlier. We're back on
the year of morning. I take advantage. All dogs, all cats,
all pets do go to heaven. That's why Pal Charlie
Ray Is who passed fifteen years ago in February. That's
what all your pets are who are passed. They love
you and you love them. I do believe you'll see
them again, see again tomorrow night. I will be on
Facebook with Dan Ray Night Side with Dan Ray in
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about a minute, and then I'll see tomorrow night. Have
a great Wednesday everyone. Thanks to everyone who called, particularly
whether he got in the air or not. I appreciate
the effort.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Rob
It's Nights with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right. So we're doing is We're talking about a
very simple question, would you like to see the Jeffrey
Epstein files released? He's been dead for six years. His
co conspirator, Jelaine I guess that's how her name is pronounced, Jelaine.
(00:26):
Jelene Maxwell has been moved from a tougher women's federal
prison in Florida to a kinder and gentler federal prison
in Texas. Don't know what that means, but we do
(00:46):
know that there was two days of interviews between an
assistant Attorney general who had been the attorney for President Trump.
Mhm uh who who? And now I believe the Trump
team has said, let's release the transcript. So there's a
(01:08):
lot of cross currents here. I just want to see
it all come out. I really, I obviously want credible information.
I don't want speculation or you know, something that the
media can can can present in a in an unfair way.
But let's get it out there, simple as that.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I'm going to go to John in Pennsylvania. John.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
The subject is the question, do you want to see
the Epstein files released publicly?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Well, of course absolutely.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Uh. Let's let's get a few facts straight. Number one, Maxwell,
I don't care how her first name is pronounced, is
a sex offender. She's a multiple time sex offender.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
She's a convicted sex offender. You're correct, you're.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Addicted right by the way, the Paul of he had
to be waived in order for a multiple.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Time convicted sex offender to be transferred to a minimum
security prison. But because in May, uh, the young women
testified as to what Epstein and Maxwell did to them,
how they were recruited, how they were then.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
That we know.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
So let me get to let me get to my point.
These young these young women were sex trafficked to wealthy
primarily men, overwhelmingly men. I'm assuming a few women may
have been involved, but you know they weren't men of
ordinary means such as myself. I doubt even you had
the wealth and celebrity to to to go to uh
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to me invite to Epstein's island.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I want you to know the record, I was never invited, uh,
and if I had been invited, I would not have
taken that opportunity, John, But thank you for it was
clarifying that.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Okay, appreciate it was.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
It was, it was multi millionaires and perhaps billionaires. So
and by the way, if you look at Epstein's history,
this is the history of a man who, however brilliant
and charming he might have been, might may have been. Uh,
his personal history is that again and again and again
(03:23):
he was given opportunities, high level opportunities and investments that
on paper he didn't have the credentials for, he didn't
have the.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Right I understand that. I don't think we can break
that down here for my audience. I don't want to
lose my audience what I want to find out. You
and I just don't agree on much. We don't agree
on much. John, You know that we try to be
polite with one another, but I think that on this
we are in agreement. We stand united. That let's get
(03:58):
it all out there. Whom ever made the mistake of
falling prey to this guy? And I'm sure he was
using this as lure, and who knows, maybe maybe he blackmail.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
He was using it as black mail. We all know
he was. He was blackmailing people.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
That he's never been charged with blackmail. So therefore I'm
just going to be a little more cautious than than
than you.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
But but like you, you've made a statement on in
several several instances. Like you, I have to pay attention
to what people do and how they react, not.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Just what they say.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
And what I see is a lot of very powerful
people on both sides of political aisle, many I would
probably speculate many who are a political but but on
high levels of business and finance, really don't want all
this to come out.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Oh well, obviously this will has been the fact that
it hasn't come out so far. It raises those questions.
So look, let's leave it at this for tonight. John,
we agree, Let's let it all come out and let
the chips fall where they may.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
I'm not looking you agree with what if you? Let's
see if you agree with me on one more point. Uh,
The proper answer to Glean, whatever her first name is,
maxwell getting a pardon. The answer to that question should
be no.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Oh, I agree with that, You're not going to pardon. No,
And I think even I think I think that a
pardon is very different from a commutation legally, and so
I think that a pardon would be absolutely off the
table from a practical level. From a legal level and
(05:47):
from a moral level. That's that's my thought on it. Okay,
so we're an agreement on everything.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
I'm glad you agree with me.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
So the proper answer should be no, not I have.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
The power, I don't know how, I don't well.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I The proper answer will be decided if and when
a pardon is ever given.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
That's the improper answer.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
If a pardon is not given, then the proper answer
is is is actually facilitated? So you know, I mean,
I'm not interested in words, just like you just said,
I'm interested in actions. So let's see what is done
or isn't done. Thanks John, thank you, talk to you soon.
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Let's take a break, coming right back on Night's side.
I got one line at six one, seven thirty, and
one's still hanging out there at.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Six one seven nine ten thirty. Again. I know some
of you are coming.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
At this from the perspective of either well, I think
John is coming from it from the perspective as Chris
is that this has got this is Donald Trump. Janine
is where I am, and that is I don't care
where the chips fall, but I think that the uh,
(07:00):
the activity here was so beyond the pale This is
different than Donald Trump with whatever her name was, the
porn star. We're talking about girls as Gianna's fourteen. Okay,
that's what the implications are. There has been no proof
(07:23):
that I know of, other than proof against Epstein and
his cohort Maxwell. Join the conversation back on Nightside right after.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
This, You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's
news Radio.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Let's go to.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Tom on the Cape. Tom, appreciate your patience. Thank you, sir.
Garret ahead.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
Tom, what John's and awful strong personality, I'd say, huh, well.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
He is. It's like, I know he's trying to make
a point and I'm simply trying to limit the point.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
And that is I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I mean, if you leave so strongly that that one
particular presidential if president.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Did this, okay, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe
Bill Clinton did.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Go down there for seminars, or maybe he didn't go
down I haven't seen the documents, but I'm interested in those.
I want to know more about the Kennedy assassination. I
want to know more about the Martin Luther King assassination.
I want to know more about the assassination of Senator
Robert F.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Kennedy.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
Yeah, I would have gone down I would. I would
have gone down there. Maybe I would have met the
tooth Paarry too, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,
But I'm telling you I'm that that gentleman that said
I'm a people like myself whom Trump's supporters are afraid. Well,
I'm not afraid.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
To talk about it.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
He's on that list, and shame if he's on that list,
and shame on him. But I don't think he's on
that list. And who ever on that list should be
punished for what they did.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, you know, talk.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Look, there could be people who were on that list
and who engaged in the activities that are implied, but
statute of limitations being what they are again, I I
don't know what the federal anything. Any crime that was
committed on the Virgin Islands would be covered by federal law.
I assume that would override local law.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Well yeah, well whatever. The bottom line is, the embarrassment
alone would be enough to damage their reputation.
Speaker 8 (09:38):
My point, I.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Think that when you know someone I think it was
John who talked about he would not be surprised that
someone who would have cohorted.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
But what is the word.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I want to uh, who would engaged in activities in
Las Vegas with the the the stripper, yeah, porn star whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Okay, that's different than fourteen.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
She's thirty five or forty years old. You're not talking
about it. She's not fourteen.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah. The the the analogy that I used to use
with Bill Clinton, and I met Clinton on several occasions,
I found to be a charming guy. If he had
been in the Lincoln bedroom with some Hollywood starlett back
in the day, it's none of my business. It's between
him and Hillary. But when he has an intern in
(10:36):
the Oval Office, it's the ultimate position of authority. He's
the chief executive of a company that she's an intern
with the United States government.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
He's the most powerful, the most powerful man in the world.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So we have new Trump.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
We have here Trump supporters, you and Janine, both of
whom are courageous, brave and bold.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
Well, okay, you know he's kicked around. Finally it's time.
You know, the old saying goes, you're gonna be careful.
The the blank, the kick on, kiss on, the kick
on the way up is the blank? You might have
to kiss on the way down, right.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Or what goes around, sometimes comes around, so you know,
we'll see.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
Yeah, I hope we find out where the chips fall.
And if they fall where they fall, and it's positive, fine,
if it's positive. If it's negative, then it's negative. He
deserves the same treatment as anybody else.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, well, there will be something. There will be some people.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
On the other side who can't stand him for a
number of reasons.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
And we'll assume that that even if they put Jelaine
Maxwell under you know, hypnosis sodium pentathol lie detector tests,
it wouldn't be good enough.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
Because they would take us. They would take They still
took his money though, didn't they years ago when he
wasn't a politician, They took his Hillary took his money,
Bill took his money. All the politicians in New York
City took his money. They were happy to take his money.
Then they when he went to he was invited to
Hillary's daughter's wedding. He was at the wedding. You know,
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I understand.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Again that that is not in of itself. Picking bad
people to come to your wedding is not, uh, you know,
evidence of criminality.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
No, no, no, no, I'm not talking put.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
You in the position to defend Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
No, no, no, I'm not talking I'm not talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
I'm talking about Donald Trump. They took they took money
from him, and he was invited to Hillary Clinton's all right.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Right, right, right, Okay. I missed.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I totally missed your point and it was a it
was an excellent point that I should have gotten it.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
This thing about pronouns, Tom, I always tell my kids,
hu's proper nouns. Hey Tom, great, call is always. Thank
you much, my friend. How how is the reception? How
is the busy reception of the Cape tonight?
Speaker 6 (13:11):
If I could ask, well, I'll tell you right now.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
I'm on my I'm on my W MY iHeart Radio,
and I'm in Connecticut. Actually I'm doing a job in Connecticut.
Good for you, but I'm getting you know, the Cape.
The cake is kind of hot with W it's w
W H E K. And certain places you get excellent reception,
(13:37):
some some of you don't get real good receptions.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Great, I'll take I'll take it, all right, Thanks Tom,
talk soon, Thank you much. Keep rowling here. We're going
to go to Don in Belmont. Don appreciate your patients.
Go ahead, don.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
Yesks, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah, thank you for being patient. I'm sorry that you
have to wait through the newscast. Go right ahead.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
H Yeah, I'm a patient guy. I feel I want
to get this thought out there. I've got to. I've
got two thoughts about two things that I want to express. Well,
the first one, I know everybody's you're talking about about
the jolly Maxwell and get the evidence out there. And
(14:22):
the report is Yeah, eventually it will come out in
that and I think it'll it'll reach the point where
it'll be denied. It'll be it'll be spoon fed out
and it'll be softened, it'll be rolled over, and it
won't be as shocking as people think it's going to be.
It's going to be dragged out and then Trump we'll
(14:45):
pull another shad mark and then get lucky and then
kind of slide. But that's not why the reason why
I call. I know, let me if I can.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Okay, this is kind of this is what I consider
to be serious stuff.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
Okay, yes it is, and.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
First of all, I want this stuff, whatever it is,
credible information to come out. I mean a lot of
people say, oh I saw a list. I'd like to
see show to us the lists of the flight manifests, who,
who's on the plane, who all of that. I mean,
there's ways to look at this document. You'll find documents,
(15:26):
et cetera. So I'd like to again, I want to
put the word credible in there. But if someone had
made the mistake of cavorting in this location with what
apparently Epstein made available, it's your.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Come out, yeah, and the other the other thad I
tried to call you last week, but it right, it
was it was too long, and it was too late.
It was getting late, beyond a half our way time,
and I just couldn't waiting longer. And okay, So the
main thought, the main thing I was going to say
(16:06):
is remember last week when they come out, and that
was in the news Donald Trump is positioning to two
nuclear submarines closer to Russia.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
That right, yes, yes, I do.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Well, what had happened was BeTV, the former president of Russia,
had made some comments, uh that that America better watch
what they say or something like that, and so you
Trump Trump responded to, what's your point?
Speaker 6 (16:38):
My point is that being a Vietnam VET, I was
in the course guarden. Uh, you get to know a
lot of navy stuff. I was in the base where
they were the subs are, and when in New London, Connecticut,
saw them out at sea. Some of them we had
to escort. I was from from Newfoundland down to the
(17:00):
South Atlantic. I wasn't sent the NOM but the coast
guy was in Vietnam. But my point is those guys,
those subs, the Boomers, they have an area to patrol,
and every day it's a cat and mouse sort of thing.
Russians are trying to find them, and they're evading them,
and we're trying to find their guys, their subs. They're
(17:23):
in the Atlantic. Okay. So with that said, admirals and
people other than hexact are like and laughing is that thinking?
And the captains of the subs saying, like, what is
he thinking? They know we're in a certain area, so
(17:47):
if we move closer, we're giving them an edge. We're
going to be closer. That's like me walking into UH
seven eleven.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I under said the point you make it, I don't
agree with you necessarily.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
If you know I was not I was in a
different branch. Okay, So I'm not a naval expert. Or
anything like that. I once had a commander of a
US nuclear submarine call this program because I asked him
he was from Virginia, so what do you do for living?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Says it work in the navy. He said, really, what
do you do?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
He said, I'm a commander of a nuclear submarine, which.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Is pretty cool where she was listening tonight. Cool, you know.
I think that.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Again, I think that everybody should step back and say, Okay,
everything that Donald Trump doesn't do, everything that he does
is not always right, and everything that he does is
not always wrong, that's all. And it didn't strike me
for him to send a message to putin of you know,
you know, watch it, you know. And I think that
(18:58):
his unpredictability actually plays to our benefit. Right now, who
would you rather have as commander in chief in your opinion,
Joe Biden in the condition he was in or Donald.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Trump none not only above.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Well, you can't make that choice because someone has to occupy.
I mean, you can tell me that that you'd like
to have John Fetterman as the President of the United States,
or you'd like to have whomever you want to pick.
But if that's your choice, that was your choice. Did
you vote for Biden.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
I would I would chay Biden because he would have advisors,
Because what if Biden made a choice, he would have advisors,
good people around him, military or whatever explained to him.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Where were his advisors when Russia invaded Ukraine? Where was
his advisers when we didn't know how the hell to
get out of Afghanistan without losing you know, soldiers at
Abbey's Gate. Biden didn't impress me as presidor in the
United States. I think he was well past his prime. Okay,
I think he was the equivalent of Willie May's playing
(20:06):
center field for the Mets. Yes, he was stayed at
the party tool Look, Hey, I got it. I gotta
run down. Thank you for your call. Please continue to
call this program. It was a good It was a
good call.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Thank you, Thank you so thank you for connect.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Okay, now, for the first time, we actually have some lines.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I want to know. Do you want to know? Yes
or no? But tell me why?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
What's in the Epstein files?
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I want to know.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I think we need to know. Okay, if you think
I'm being I have a prurient interest, or you think
I'm a voyeur, feel free. No, I want to know
and just as Janine and Tom and the Cape said,
let the chips fall where they may six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty, six, one, seven,
(20:55):
nine thirty. Coming right back on Night's side. Need to
hear from you again. You know my position. This is
not the Dan Ray broadcast. This is Nightside with Dan Ray,
and you the audience, are nightside. I want to know
your position. Period. Okay, take advantage of this opportunity. Back
(21:18):
on Nightside after this.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on ws news Radio.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Back to the call as we go, let me go
north of the border.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
We got a lot of listeners in Canada and one
of the most loyalists Darryl.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
A lot of you up there listen and you choose
not to call. Hey, Daryl, thanks for calling Hey.
Speaker 9 (21:43):
Dan, good to uh tune in and from there I'm
on my M radio up here.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
So bad excellent.
Speaker 9 (21:53):
But yeah, I agree that you know, let the dominoes
fall as they may.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (21:58):
Yeah, Uh, basically you never know because the reason I
called in is when you mentioned Bill Clinton, and you know,
I'd hate to see if Hillary was on the manifest
as well. But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I mean, we had a caller in the ten o'clock hour,
Jack from Newton, who said that this was all in
the up and up and they were going down to
seminars and presentations, academic presentations. Okay, if that's true, even
though Epstein has been convicted for you know, some horrible things,
(22:37):
if the people who he flew on his plane down
to this island were in fact going down there for seminars,
I don't necessarily believe that, to be really honest with you,
but Jack believed it strongly. I'd like to see that
come out and we could clear the names of people
who might have been associated with.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Epstein for other reasons.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
If they were they were associating with Epstein because they
felt that he was a good stock picker, or or
he was an investment guy, that's one thing. If, on
the other hand, they were they were, you know, with
him in order to have access to fourteen year old girls,
that's a whole different story.
Speaker 9 (23:18):
Well, that goes back to doesn't open the door to
different business execs and you know, different other things.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Wells, business execs could go down with him because they
shared an interest in business, or they.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Some of them could go down with him.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I guess for you know, reasons that that most of
us would disapprove of.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
But no, let it come out.
Speaker 9 (23:43):
The same time. Well, if they're going down for seminars
as well, that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
If you gond out for both, then you still you
still are Maybe part of your trip is legitimate, the
other part is way.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Over the top.
Speaker 9 (23:58):
Well it opens the door to they always say those
old movies like Rockford Files, when you had the conventions
in town and you had all the girls coming by, right, Well.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
It depends how old the girls are. Depends up. I mean,
you know, it's.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
It's well, well, that's what I'm getting. That's what I
didn't say was about the age difference. Right even up
in Ontario, if I can say the same similar thing. Uh,
they just busted at eleven hundred guys in Ontario in
the province, Uh, for doing the online thing for underage purposes.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Well, that's that's a huge problem.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I'm not doing the over the age thing on online
is also I assume prostitution is illegal, but it's it's
a heck of a lot worse to be uh, you know,
taking advantage of fourteen year old girls. That's all I'm
trying to say is that that is what has been
(24:54):
alleged here.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I think that a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I know that Alan dersh its name, was involved, and
he has protested his innocence. And I happened to I
know Alan, and I believe Alan Dershowitz okay.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
As a character. And Alan, uh I, I believe you've
had him on quite a bit sure and uh, incredible guy.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Now I also know knew Bill Cosby very well. I
think the evidence against Cosboy has been overwhelming and I'm
very disappointed. I introduced Cosby twice during my career, once
at Boston Symphony Hall and uh and and once at
the North Through Music Circus.
Speaker 9 (25:39):
There's a lot of names, a lot of names out there,
and uh but uh but yeah, let the books be
open and hopefully hopefully things get back to the way
things were in politics, all.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Right, Yeah, well, of course the way things will always
been in politics.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
It's it's it's a rough and tumble sport, you know.
There there haven't.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Been too many Uh, look what they all have. They
all have clay feet. We all have clay feed. But
the politicians who sometimes aren't willing to admit it, they
they have some of the clay's feet. If you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (26:15):
Well, well, it seems like an ex girlfriend is so
peed off that she is just constantly hounding the guy.
And it seems like a back and forth.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Which guy are we talking about here? Which guy are
we talking about?
Speaker 9 (26:29):
Uh? The guy in charge right now?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
That would be Donald Trump. You can mention his name.
Who's the ex guy? Who's the ex gray?
Speaker 9 (26:37):
No, anybody he is trying to hound right, Yes, the
whole thing.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Darryl. You losing me with the pronouns. Don't do this
to me.
Speaker 9 (26:47):
Sorry, sorry, Donald Trump is hounding everybody. It's almost like
an attack at all the time. Okay, he's always and
that's my opinion. And uh like, let's get back to Hey,
how can we fix things right?
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Good? Yeah? All right, well on that point of agreement,
we can end. Thanks Darren, we'll talk, so thanks very much.
Let me go next to Joey An and Waltham. Joey
in next on nisag go right.
Speaker 10 (27:12):
Ahead, Hi, Dan? How you doing?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I'm doing fine? Joe Anne left to know what you
think about this? Would you like to see this all
come out?
Speaker 10 (27:21):
Yes, it's for the victims, you know, it should come
out for the victims.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
But I also think for our knowledge as to whether
or not they were people who we had strongly supported
or people you know, who we didn't like.
Speaker 10 (27:39):
I just think it's well true. Yeah, I mean, all
I know for sure is Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton.
And I heard Bill Clinton went down there twenty eight times.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Well, my understanding, and again, don't put me in a
position to.
Speaker 10 (27:58):
Most can't be all minage, no.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Right, right, no, but don't put me in My understanding
is that this I've read some article which says that
there's no Secret Service records of him traveling to that island.
Now again, I'm assuming as a former president you are
shadowed by Secret Service.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Constantly. I don't know that as a former.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
President you have the right to say to Secret Service,
hey I'm going down to an undisclosed island with this
friend of mine, Jeff Epstein, or with a friend of mine.
I'm just flying down for the weekend. I don't know
that Secret Service has the authority to say, yeah, sure,
go ahead.
Speaker 10 (28:45):
Yeah, Well wherever I heard it, forget where I heard it.
They have record of him on the Epstein plane.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I'm saying, is secret Service records. I've read the opposite.
Now I don't know which is the truth. Yours might
be the truth, Joeann.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
I'm not saying.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Mine is the truth. I'm just saying that I would
love to know what the Secret Service policy is. If
the Secret Service policy is, hey, look, we are told
to protect the former president of the United States, whoever
he is, wherever he goes, and we do not let
him out of our you.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Know, sight.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Think about this as a movie for a moment. Let's assume.
Let's assume that Bill Clinton at some point and the
only reason we're mentioning Clinton's name is because it's been
it's been bandied about.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I will make it very clear, I have no clue.
I have no clue, Paul.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Let's assume Bill Clinton said the Secret Service, Hey, I'm
going to spend a little private time with my buddy
of mine. We got some friends down on this private island.
He's got his own personality, security people. You know, give
me a break. Why don't you guys take the weekend off.
I'll see you Monday morning. It's assume that Secret Service
(30:08):
were in that up the flag pole and they said, yeah,
go ahead, but what harm can happen?
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Right?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
And then somehow Clinton is taken prisoner by a foreign
government hypothetically now hypothetically.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Right, Yeah, yeah, I think that would be kind.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Of embarrassing to the Secret Service.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
My opinion. I could be wrong, could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
They might come out and say, well, you know he
told us, you know, he took the chance, and we
know he's in a vana, Cuba right now and he
is not allowed to lead, but we're going to try
to get him out.
Speaker 8 (30:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I would love to know what this.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Is because if the Secret Service says, we have no
records of him flying to this location on this this
type of transportation, could the Secret Service lie to me?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I guess they could.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I guess we.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
All learn that.
Speaker 10 (30:59):
But they could lie.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
But that's a big one. That's a big lot.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
That's a big Lotah.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 10 (31:07):
All I know is if Donald Trump had been to
that island, we would have heard about it six years.
Speaker 8 (31:15):
Ago, I think. So.
Speaker 10 (31:17):
I think Democrats would have pulled that out as quick
as they could.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Well, I think yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
But again, I think that there were a lot of guys,
men and women in positions of authority and positions of power.
John Brennan Clapper come to mind, Comy and most of
those people would have known, and I think that would
have been enough to have blown because look, Epstein has
(31:46):
been the subject of investigations going back to two thousand
and two. He was indicted a couple of years later
later in Florida, subsequently federal indictments. I think that argument
that you just made is as strong an argument as
could be made on behalf of.
Speaker 10 (32:04):
Donald Trump and who and who knows. I did hear
someone on the radio. He had a good point. He said,
it could be that President Trump doesn't want it release
because who knows. Some of these could be big Russian guys,
big Chinese guys, big Japanese guys.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
You know, why would he Why would he be concerned
about that?
Speaker 10 (32:30):
Well, you don't want to offend them, I think, I.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Think, I think you made a great argument, but I
think you're stretching on that one.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Joe and I got to run.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Thank you much, Okay, take care, talk you soon.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Got a couple of open lines six one seven thirty, six, one, seven, nine, three,
ten thirty. We have done two hours on the Epstein files.
I wasn't sure we could, but I want to finish
strongly and I want to be able to do my
nightside postgame because I will tell you honestly what I
(33:06):
think of the show on postgame. We don't share postgame,
but I need I want to hear from a couple
more of you. Again, I'm emphasizing to you you've heard
my position. Please don't put me in the position where
I have to repeat my position. I'm going to talk
with Henry and Sutton. Feel free six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten
(33:27):
thirty back after.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
This, you're on night Side with Dan Ray on BZ
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
All right, let's go to Henry and Sutton. Henry, appreciate
your patience. Next on nice Ide, Go ahead, Henry.
Speaker 8 (33:41):
Yeah. If there is no list the list of names
that are redacted, all the girls are that there are
part of the partially the victims. The only ones who
can release the names of the two federal judges in
the lower Eastern District of New York. That's the ones
that beyond me. She can't do it, Trump couldn't do it.
(34:04):
Nobody can release those names except for the two federal
judges in the Eastern Shore whatever it is of New York.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
So that might when Congress. Maybe, And again, I assume
what you're telling me is correct. I'll accept that, Henry.
If there is no list that is in the possession
of the Justice Department or whatever.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Uh, and if.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
The Government Oversight Committee decides to subpoeno one or both
of those judges, maybe you will have some sort of
an interesting Yeah, yeah, God for dation.
Speaker 8 (34:45):
Look, look, the guy put guilty the one case in
two thousand and five with a girl seventeen and a
half years old. There never was anything with fourteen, anything
that was three pew present. There was none of that.
The girls were he like twenty two year old girls. Okay,
maybe a few seven.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
But no, no, no, no, no, I think Henry, I
don't know what it was. Go go read the timeline.
I read his timeline earlier, earlier today. Uh, he was
in and out of the same problem. This was a
guy who had had an addiction to very young women.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
Okay, yes, he likes young girls, but not pretty few
and they will well again, you know you guilty with
seventeen and a half Yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Again, I think they were girls who who filed civil
lawsuits against them who were much younger than that. Henry,
you sound like you know a lot about it. I'm
not going to debate y'all.
Speaker 8 (35:40):
Well, because because I listened to the Alan Dosha which
podcast and he explained everything. He was this attorney. Have
them on the they'll explain everything. There is no list
right list only list.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Got it?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
You said it once, You've said it twice, now you
said it three times. You got to keep rolling. Thank you, man,
shit you call?
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Good night.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Let me go to Gary in Michigan. Gary, thanks for
calling in. Haven't heard from you in a while.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Welcome.
Speaker 11 (36:07):
Yeah, how are you guys tonight?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Well, I'm going fine, We're going fine. Glad you called in.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
I got a couple behind you, and i'd love to
get your quick response. Do you want to see the
Epstein files released publicly?
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Whatever? Whatever they say?
Speaker 11 (36:21):
And I'm a little upset about the way you were
talking about our ex president. Which ex president when you
got a president right now has to wear diapers?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
You know which which ex president? We're talking about Biden.
What I was upset about.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I upset you because you thought he was compassmentis during
his years.
Speaker 11 (36:46):
He was sleepy, Bob. You know you were you were
going after him not being no good.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I was going I asked.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I asked, I asked the caller who he would rather
have deal with foreign affairs, as you know, as commander
in chief. The current president, who seems to be on
top of his game in that area, witnessed what he
did in Iran. Or Joe Biden, who basically stood by
while Russia invaded Ukraine and then wasn't able to pull
(37:19):
the troops successfully out of Afghanistan.
Speaker 11 (37:23):
Well, you're you're blaming Biden for Afghanistan. Trump set the
whole deal up with the enemy. Matter of fact, he
didn't even use the the standing government over there. He
went around the.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Government, the government.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
You know again, I am not gonna if you think
that that Joe Biden was a better commander in chief.
My hat's off to you, my friend, That's all. But
you know, I can tell you this Putin didn't didn't
take it an acre of land. When you know, when
Donald Trump was president from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty one,
(38:00):
you can go look that one up.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
When when Obama was president.
Speaker 11 (38:05):
Check I say Trump didn't stop the more in Ukraine
like he said he was gonna do him one day.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Well, ok, you know what, again, it's difficult for me
to convince people who either hate Trump for everything or
people who love him for everything. I'm somebody who looks
at his accomplishments and his failures. Okay, simple as that.
Do you think he did the right thing in in Iran?
Speaker 8 (38:40):
Or no, pardon me?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Do you think President Trump did the right thing in
wiping out the nuclear capabilities for Iran?
Speaker 6 (38:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:51):
You do? Okay, Well, thank you very much. I appreciate that. Okay,
I got to get two more in Thank you very much. Gary,
call early, give you much more time. Jay is in Maine.
J You got to be quick for me. We're running
out of time.
Speaker 12 (39:02):
Yeah, good evening to your brother. You know, everybody they
tell you no politics, no religion. I'll do the religion
thing to check out with you. The pets and the
animals all go to heaven because they don't have to
go to judgment. They don't think right from wrong. They
have a sixth sense called nature. They just survive. They
don't make choices to do evil.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
I'm not gonna do a theological If you call earlier
some night, I would love to get into a theological
conversation about that.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Okay.
Speaker 12 (39:30):
Oh, it's just it was plain and simple. I like
that you say all the pets and all the animals
go to heaven, and I concur with that.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
No, good, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 12 (39:39):
Enjoy visiting what you bean, God bless have a good night.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
God got you. Thank you Jay.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Call early.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
I'd love to have a chat. Thank you much. We
had done folks.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
To the callers in the line and who are calling
it God, I wish you called earlier. We're back on
the year of morning. I take advantage. All dogs, all cats,
all pets do go to heaven. That's why Pal Charlie
Ray Is who passed fifteen years ago in February. That's
what all your pets are who are passed. They love
you and you love them. I do believe you'll see
them again, see again tomorrow night. I will be on
Facebook with Dan Ray Night Side with Dan Ray in
(40:10):
about a minute, and then I'll see tomorrow night. Have
a great Wednesday everyone. Thanks to everyone who called, particularly
whether he got in the air or not. I appreciate
the effort.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Rob
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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton tackle the biggest stories in news, politics and current events with intelligence and humor. From the border crisis, to the madness of cancel culture and far-left missteps, Clay and Buck guide listeners through the latest headlines and hot topics with fun and entertaining conversations and opinions.