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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's a nice size.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm doing you easy.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
By the way, coming up tomorrow night at nine o'clock
New Hampshire Governor Chris Sinunu Governor soon, who has been
a guest in the last several years on Night's Side
on a fairly regular basis, and tomorrow he's committed to
spending an hour with us from nine to ten and
he'll take as many phone calls as you want, So
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this is an opportunity to I think he's a true
has been a terrific governor. I think he's the best
governor in the country. I think he's been the best
governor of the country for the entirety of his term.
He has been exactly what New Hampshire needed. And we'll
talk about maybe his future where he's certainly not going
to be on Donald Trump's short list of cabinet nominees,
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that's for sure, but he maintained his integrity, which is
what I admire most about Chris Sinunu, as well as
his intelligence and a sense of humor. So we'll have
him tomorrow night for you. This is an opportunity for
you to speak with the governor of New Hampshire. Coming
up on Thursday night, we will have the wc car
guys from ten until twelve and ten until twelve on
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Friday night will be the twelfth annual night Side Charity Combine.
We have some great guests lined up for that those
two hours to introduce you to people do really great
things and if you like to help them, you can
get in contact just about every type of cause you
can imagine. We will profile on Friday night, but for now,
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I'd like to follow up and get your reaction to
the last hour with doctor Alfred Miller and doctor Robert Bransfield,
two really extraordinary guests in my opinion, and I think
also the first time callers Dave from Maine and Dennis
from Florida. Dentist Dennis the dentist from Florida, and also
good questions from Karen in Watertown, Tracy and Nashua a
(01:57):
nurse and ed and nowan quality guests and high quality
phone calls. That is what night Side at its best
is what it's about. And we will continue right now
with a couple of more good quality phone callers. Let
me go to Danielle and Wooster. Danielle, I know you
were holding on, but we ran out of time with
(02:17):
the with the with the doctors, so you got me.
That's all you got left.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Going ahead, Okay, it's okay. The pressure of the high
quality phone call.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
First, they wanted to thank the woman caller, sorry that
I didn't catch her name, for kind of you know,
making it clear that, hey, I have had line for years,
and not everybody is silent.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
I think that.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I mean some people, you know, perception of things. I
don't always hear the whole conversation.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And yeah, no, I understand. I thought that her call
was very was very important. And I think that the
quick agreement of the two doctors, I mean, there was
no fight from the doctors.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
On that, and no, not at all.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
But I also think the doctors are owed a tremendous
amount of gratitude for bringing to light, you know, lime
and how understated it's been for years. I think I
started to tell you the last time you had the
subject on the air. Very good friend of mine, longtime neighbor,
no longer a neighbor, but still a friend. Her mother
(03:14):
died uh in twenty eleven. I believe it was of
n state lime disease, but unfortunately she was diagnosed with
als and by the time they realized it was Lime,
that was far too late, and she unfortunately passed away.
In her honor, my good friend Michelle founded the Central
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Mass Line Foundation, which I thought i'd give her a
little plug. She's got a great Facebook group, you know,
for local people. Anybody can join it, but you know,
especially the local people. She does a lot of seminars
and such with just unbelievably amazing information and funny. She
just made a post about She shared a post from
(03:56):
the lime dot org. I think it's site about MANJIONI
is connection possibility to line just four days ago. She's
tremendous and it's near and dear to her heart, and
you know, because of her mom, and she's just brought
so much awareness to this neck of the woods for
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lyme disease. She goes on, if you ever find a tick,
you know to save it. And a lot of the
doctors around here don't test properly. I think that your
guests started to touch on that. You know, they're they're
very limited their testing. So I think it's idexx Labs
don't quote me on it, that will send you a
pre test kit so that you can get an analyzed
but I think now that was years ago.
Speaker 7 (04:38):
I think now.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
There's more people that are doing it the right way.
So it's just so important that this is this is
you know, broad to force into people because there's so
many diagnoses out there that are turning out to not
be what they what they were diagnosed. It's lime. Uh,
they're linking, They're they're taking second look at Alzheimer's.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
My grains is just so much that well, I can
tell you that.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
That doc that doctor Miller.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Has, her last name is Miller, ironically.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Ironically, Yeah, but doctor Miller, who I've now known for
many years, has always emphasized me, uh, the number of
uh neuro diseases, Yeah, people contract, including things like a
l S and Parkinson.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Do you remember the ice ice bucket challenge? Remember the
ice bucket challenge?
Speaker 8 (05:36):
Remember the ice buckets?
Speaker 4 (05:38):
And uh, you know Michelle. You know there was people
that are in support of Michelle and her quest here
that would not participate in the ALS challenge because of
the overlap and misdiagnosis between LIME and ALS. So this
is going back years ago. So that's how hard she's
working to bring us to foolish And so that was
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that was one thing I wanted to plug just really quick,
so I know I'm with you know measing a lot
of times. The other thing was they made mention of
impulsive behavior that this you know a lot of people
wake up and just do something random, and what in
the heck? What were they thinking, like there's no rhyme
or reason, and I don't That's the one thing about
the man's the only case that kind of struck accord
(06:22):
with me, because didn't they say that he manufactured this
gun from like a three D printer.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
That's that's what the au.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
So I'm not saying that it's not really his line,
but I just think this was a bit more calculated
than an impulse of that. I mean, he clearly thought
this though and had new well.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
It was very calculated because he had to be in
the position outside that particular entrance to the Hilton hotel,
and I think that much more is going to come out.
Did was he able to get information either advertently or
inadvertently from someone who could tell him where this guy
was because he arrived there just a few minutes before
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the gentleman was walking down the street, and.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
He was in a perfect position, you know about that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Right, I have no idea what you're talking about in
that I did. I didn't quite I was I was
making a point. I didn't he want you to go ahead
and make your point.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
They referred to, you know, his wife and two children,
but they had been separated for a year, they lived
in a separate household. So I just, I mean, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Well, that is nothing to do with anything. I mean,
there's no suggestion that that was involved in this. And
there are a lot of families who, you know, you have,
have been separated for a period of time and they
get back together and then they you know, So I mean,
his personal life is something that I'm I'm totally.
Speaker 9 (07:51):
Unaware of that.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
At that did a whole thing on her. Her response
to the media kind of broke it down and gave
his thoughts.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
So I just, Danielle, look, I you know, first of all,
I I have no idea how long you were married.
I have no idea what the relationship was. I don't
think that you know the fact that that they had
had had separated, they were still married, they still had
two children. You know, people deal with situations and circumstances differently,
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so I think that's an area that there's no reason
for us to uh, you know, to spend much more
time talking about that one. That's for sure in my opinion.
All Right, Daniell, I'm gonna let you go. I thought
you made a bunch of great points earlier in the
conversation about.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
It's a great, great subject. I'm glad that you do it,
and hopefully we can have both guests one again, because
they are amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, they're tough, they're tough to get, they're not easy
to get, but it happened to work, you know there.
They are very solid, solid citizens. Thanks, thank you, Danielle. Well,
we'll continue you our conversation. If you want to react
to what doctor Al Miller and doctor Robert Brinsfeld talked
about last hour about lime disease, I'd be more than
(09:08):
happy to entertain a few more calls on that. I
have Barbara, who's calling in from Connecticut. Let's keep the
ball roll in six one, seven, two, five, four ten
thirty six one, seven, nine, three, ten thirty. Again. I
think Nightside at its best is what we did tonight.
We talked earlier about the drones over America. Uh, I'm
(09:31):
going to be very interested to find out how that
works out. If you like to comment on that from earlier,
you're welcome. We just had lost Barbara, who was here, Barbara,
I'm sorry if you got disconnected, please call back and
we will get you back on uh in priority. UH.
And if you like to comment on what we talked
about last hour, lime disease and whether or not that
(09:53):
might have had an impact on this, uh, this fellow
who I cont some much sympathy for Luigi Manzioni, and
I don't want anyone to think that, uh, that that
there was any sympathy here for him, uh, because there
are other reasons that. I mean, what he did was
(10:14):
just reprehensible. Barbara and Connecticut love to have you back.
You were held it, you held on for a long time.
I apologize it and get to you. Six one seven
two five four ten thirty six's seven nine three six
on't seven nine three one ten thirty coming right back on.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Nightside now back to Dan ray Line from the Window
World Nightside Studios on WITBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
By the way, I just wanted to mention that doctor
Bransfield is working on a piece he told me for
the Wall Street Journal. So if your journal readers, you
may want to look at that when it's published. Uh.
He is a prolific writer and you can find just
google him in you get more information from him. Also,
(11:03):
you can google doctor Miller, and many of my listeners
have reached out to doctor Alfred Miller. It's doctor al Miller.
Just a one word at gmail dot com. I just
had someone was kind enough to leave me a message
about the passing of a dear friend of mine, a
(11:26):
lawyer here in Boston. I'm not going to mention it
on the air. I'll wait, I guess, and see it
in the obituaries tomorrow. But boy, it's tough when there
are people who at one point in your life were
very important and they might have helped you along the road,
whether it's in your career or in your personal life.
(11:49):
And sometimes they're you know, ten or fifteen or twenty
years older than you. And so we say, no one
gets out of this place alive. Let me go next
to Tim in Wooburn. Tim, welcome back. How are you, sir?
Speaker 5 (12:02):
I'm good, Dan, how are you? I never knew much
about lime disease, but I know now after listening to
this these two doctors, you know I.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Just think they're extraordinary guests. And I got to tell you,
Al Miller has been a friend of mine for several
years and we talked a couple of times over the
weekend and he was the one who suggested Doctor Brandsfield
and they were both great. I'm so proud of that hour. Uh,
(12:32):
you know, you pull that hour together. I'm proud of
the show tonight. And that's what's you know there earlier.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Night when it was great. I loved it.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Well, thank you, Tim, I appreciate that.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah. Tim called on Friday night and told the world
that he hadn't received this coffee mic. He won a
mug here on nightside from our friends at College Hype,
and I said, you know, Tim, I'm sure it's on
the way, And he was kind enough to call me
on Saturday morning and send me a message on Saturday
morning that the mug had arrived. And I hope that
(13:08):
you've enjoyed the mug. It's it's a good dark blue,
kind of like a cobalt blue blue cover.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
And yeah, it says it's navy. And also right as
I was the shipping I have the packing slip right
in my hand. It's a ship date December sixteenth. I
would I received it the fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
No was it was? It was shipped on December sixth.
You said, right, right.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Date December sixteenth. But I got it the fourteenth, which
was great.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
No, No, it wasn't. It wasn't shipped on December sixteenth.
December sixteenth is uh what uh sixteenth was is today today?
So I guarantee it wasn't shifting in it. We probably
was shipped on December sixth as a matter of fact.
But again, if folks want to get any knightside gear,
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Speaker 5 (14:39):
Yeah. Anyhow, I'd like to send you a Christmas Christmas greeting.
And I in the in this paper right it says, uh,
Jack dolreaty U five quody Galvan Gallavan Boulevard, Dorchester. Can
I send you something?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Can you send me something?
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Christmas card?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, just just send me a just send
me a Christmas card. That's fine, but or just this
is a Christmas greeting. Just wish me merry Christmas. And
I wish you merry Christmas as well, Tim, So don't
there's no need to say thank you. The fact that
you call my show and listen to my show that's
more than thank you. Why wouldn't I Why would I
not be nice to you? So no, thank Adam.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Yeah, you treat treat me like gold. Anyhow, I wish
you when you are a merry Christmas. I hope Sanna
is good to everyone and I will forward to meeting
you someday.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
All right, thank you, Tim, enjoy that coffee mug and uh,
and hopefully as a result some people it's it's not
the coffee Munk's a beautiful coffee mug and people, yeah,
it's great.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
It's navy, it's beautiful and.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
It's right, Dan Rabel ROI for reason.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Thank you very much. All right, Tim, you have great,
great Christmas and we'll talk soon. Okay, thank you so much.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
Okay, thank you, Dan, Dot you sir.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Good night. Let me go next to up Charlotte in Connecticut. Charlotte, welcome.
How are you tonight?
Speaker 7 (16:07):
Hi, good evening, Dan, how are you?
Speaker 5 (16:09):
I thank you?
Speaker 7 (16:13):
And this is the doctors, but I'm catching the last
hour of your show. I have suffered many times from
blame disease, and the last time was for a sixteen
day stay at the hospital. People don't understand that it
is a paralyzing neurological bugger, A little bugger.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Yeah, who I know.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Who literally have had their lives upended. I mean everybody understands. You.
You hear about someone who's in a bad car crash,
or I've heard about your friends of mine who worked
as roofers or they fell off a roof, and you
understand that. But when you think about this little tick
bite someone And I know I have one friend of
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mine who was virtually debilitated. She traced it to lime disease,
and her dad was a well known doctor in Boston
and trying to get her some relief from it, and
it plagued her for twenty years. So it's been around
a while and your story is gone alone. Charlotte, How
(17:26):
is it that you've been so many times? Are you
a god?
Speaker 7 (17:30):
I live in Connecticut. I live in East Lime one
Tunnel Wine, which is the originator of London.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Absolutely. Yeah, I have been to East Line, Connecticut, by
the way, it's a beautiful part of the state.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
People don't understand that there are eighteen different species of
lime disease. So if you go in and you have
the symptoms and they tell you you don't have it,
there's a lot of false negatives which would actually positives.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Right, You're absolutely right, and I hope that tomorrow you
take the time to listen to the Hour at ten
o'clock with doctor Miller and doctor Bransfield. You you. Doctor
Miller made the exact point that sometimes if they test
you for the wrong type of and he used to
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figure eighteen types of lime disease, and if they test
you for the wrong type of lime disease, you're going
to get a negative result. IM going to do tomorrow's
go to Nightside on demand dot com and just look
for the tenant for the ten o'clock hour, which is
going to be very obvious you will enjoy it. My
question to you is, obviously there's ways in which you
(18:45):
can prevent line disease, particularly if you live in like
a place like East Line, Connecticut. There are some sprays
that you can use. There are some ways to make
sure that if you're out in a cart, particularly when
they're when they're active, make sure that the body of
either your pants or your sleeves or tied tightly. And
(19:06):
obviously when you get back in the house, you want
to make sure you particularly if you've.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Been water right.
Speaker 7 (19:13):
So I guard and go to the beach a lot,
and ticks hang out also at the beach. They cannot
fly through the air, they can be on those bushes.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Whatever.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
What I wanted to say is my memory is shot.
That was one of the things I wanted to talk about.
I'm going through a euro test next week with my PCP.
Because of this, I tire quite easily. I'm sixty too young.
My memory is shot. I have a long term which
(19:46):
is yeah, it's scary, it's real.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
It's sixty two. You're a young person, I know.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
But to feel this way at sixty two. It it
is quite scary, but yes, I do as you say.
I go outside to garden, I wear my wellies. I
wear my my black wellies. I walk the dog, I
wear my black wellies. I go to the beach, I
spray my tanning lotion on and then I spray with
(20:19):
bug spray. And again, I've learned very numerous ways to
be preventative. My husband and I spot each other we
come back from the beach, and these little buggers like
to hide where it's moist, pits, knees, ears, wherever you're.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Yeah, and literally.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Believe that between your toes specific you have to be so.
But just again, it can, it can change your life.
Some people could be by lime tick and have no
impact from what I understand.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
My understanding is that thirty, yeah, thirty percent of people
that do get bit will not have a symptom as
the bullseye. And I've had both. I've had, I've had
no showing of a mark and the last time.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
I had it.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
But even people who are who are a bit from
what I understand, by active you know ticks that have
the brillia, as doctor Miller would say, yea, and somehow
this system is immune from it. Look, there are people
who get struck by lightning and die, and the people
get struck by lightning and get up and and walk away.
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So yeah, you have to just look out, you know,
for yourself.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
And I tell people, yeah to when your kids are outside,
put a blanket down on the grass. Please check your children.
These even if you're in Maine or if you New
Hampshire wherever, they are now everywhere.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
They're on.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
Everywhere England, so you know, you get to think twice
about going outside.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
You'd be safe.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
But I appreciate your time in addressing this very concerning illness,
which is well Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
If you have any time tomorrow, just go to Nights
On and Demand. We put all of our hours up
in podcast form. You got to listen to a few ads,
but it's well worth it to listen to.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
It's always nice to learn more, to educate yourself more
in this because it seems that it's a very progressive illness.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
And a little before you go, let me ask you
have you called my show before?
Speaker 9 (22:33):
No, I have called.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
I have called in the past. It was many years ago.
I think it was eighteen. I was living in New Hampshire,
but in eighteen we had talked and so I'm not
a first time caller, but I am a big time listener.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
How's that?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Well, thank you very much. I hope you become a
regular caller. Okay, thank you.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
Sure.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
I wish you and your family and merry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And happy right back right back at you all. Thanks
so much, talk soon, all right? We got the eleventh
the News at eleven thirty coming up, and then we'll
get to more calls. I would love to continue to
talk about your experience with lime disease, because we had
really a uh an important hour, that's the best way
to describe it. And if you missed it, I hope
you'll listen to it tomorrow on Nightside and demand if
(23:20):
you liked. If you if we're done on lime disease
and you want to talk about another topic, I'll give
you a little an open line opportunity as well. I
just think there's not much I can do to top
where doctor Al Miller and doctor Robert Bransfeld contributed. Brands Field,
excuse me, contributed to our audience last hour. But feel
(23:41):
free your experience is a very important six one, seven, two, five,
four to ten thirty and six one, seven, nine, three,
ten thirty, and so they said tomorrow night at nine
o'clock New Hampshire Governor Chris Soon, who probably won't be
his last time here on nights Side. Hopefully he'll be
a guest even after he leaves the Governor's Office in
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New Hampshire. So fill up the lines. I got some
open lines. Let's have at it. It's a Monday night.
We're moving into the Christmas Hanukkah Kwansa season. I'd like
to be specific. If you want to wish me a
merry Christmas. I would appreciate it. Back on Nightside, right
after the news, a little bit late, but here it comes.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
It's night Side with.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
All right. As I was saying, news is over, let's
go back to the calls, the lines are quiet. I'd
love to know get your reaction to the last hour.
You want more programming like that or less programming like that?
I thought it was a great hour, a lot of information,
something that can apply to literally everyone who's listening. Let
me go to Gary in Wuburn, Gary next on Nightsaga.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Right ahead, Dan, do you want me to hang up?
I didn't want to talk about wine disease.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
No talk about it. I said, it's open. You can
talk what you want to talk about.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Go right ahead, thank you, dear uh Sonno, uh, he's
not gonna be covering anymore. What's he gonna be doing next.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I'm gonna find out tomorrow night.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
You don't know.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
I think you're talking with him all the time.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I do, I do, But I think that I never
asked him, you know, to tell me, And I thought
I'd wait until tomorrow night.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
Okay, question, what are you doing on your Christmas r K?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I tend to stay in the in the area. A
lot of people like to run, you know, get out
of town. But I love Christmas. I suspect you probably
do as well.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
And I spend time kind of looking back on the year,
kind of trying to pull my my thoughts together and
get ready for the next uh, for the next year,
which will come at us very quickly. I love Christmas.
I love the run up to Christmas, and I also
loved the few days after Christmas where you can kind
(25:58):
of kick back and you have nothing to do. Who
I'm not the most exciting guy in the world. Gary,
you know what I'm saying. I mean, other people say no,
I'm going to fly to a rube or and spend
If not me, that's the last time. What are you
doing over Christmas?
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Well, I'm a very boring guy. As a single guy,
I do have family and so forth. But you know,
I've been in a few homes o brothers that invite
me out with their wives dinner and so forth, and
be with all the grandkids and casting out presents. And
I'm among the family, of course, But I my son,
I'm alone again. I've always loved to be alone. One
of my favorite things to do in life is just
jumping my recline to chair, like a lot of people
(26:38):
who are listening, throw on your blanket and listen to
Night's Side and fall asleep and listen at the same
time and to the night just listening to music and
being in my recliner. How about you.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I mean, I think it's relaxing. Many people will tell me, oh,
I listen to night Side or go to sleep, and
it's like everyone will say, but I leave the radio on,
which is fine with me. Whatever however they whatever they
want to do, is fine with me. I just think
that that week between Christmas and New Year's I'm not
a New Year's Eve guy, I was when I was
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single many years ago. Okay, but and when I was
in TV, I covered many of the New Year's Eve
first night celebrations. I covered some of the first First
Night celebrations back in the seventies. A lot of fun
and all of that. But as you get a little older,
you realize that, hey, I can enjoy You know. The
(27:33):
other thing too, that for me is great, at least
during Christmas vacation. I'd love to know what other people
think about it is I get to catch up on
my sports a little bit. Because one of the things
about working eight to midnight is I'll miss this Bruins
game or missed that Celtics game. I can kick back
and see the college bowl games. I just think it's
a great time of year to to like you. I mean,
(27:55):
it sounds like that. You know, you stick with your
family and that's that's about. That's all the excitement I need.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
I had a thing, a suggestion to you, but you
kind of shot it down a couple months ago. But
let I throw it right back before I go. You know,
you got your final hour. You talk about the famous
celebrities and so forth, which is awesome. How about this?
I already proposed this, yere I think, I don't think
it's dumb, but you really did shoot it down almost
felt made me feel kind of foolish. But what is
your go to song in life? To listen to older
(28:26):
younger country music rockt it? What's your go to song
that makes you feel good? We listened to the radio
all the time. I mean, which song makes you sing
all the time? For your song E've been singing like
for fifty years? Like I'm a Bobby Vinton guy. There
I said it again. The Benach City of you rolla
is Saturday night you catch my drift?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, you're a music guy. There's a lot of people
who probably don't have a specific song for me at
Christmas time, it's you know all I want for Christmas?
The Mariah Carey song is a great song during other
times of the year for being swilly, nell and on
the road again, I mean, because that's one I can
actually remember the lyrics to. I have a tough time
either understanding the lyrics on some songs these at these days,
(29:10):
But yeah, I might do.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
How about Billie sa Christmas has time to say I
love you?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Not familiar with that one.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
Well, you're playing commercials and I'll be listening.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I'm not a big music guy, so that's why. But
somenight i'll do that. As a matter of fact, I
can't do it this Friday night because we're doing the
charity combine. But I'll make it as a new Year's
resolution if you will remind me like Wednesday or Thursday,
because I don't decide on the twentieth hour until you
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know Wednesday or Thursday. I like the brushes with celebrity
because it's always worked well, and people tell stories about
meeting people who you know are famous or semi famous,
and it's fun to listen about the people who treat
them well. And maybe it's also fun or to hear
the people that don't treat him well. But I we
we we push our topics around, that's for sure. Hey, Gary,
(30:08):
I'm up at my break. I gotta let you go.
Thanks for thanks for checking in tonight. If I don't
talk to you, have a great merry Christmas. And a
week from tonight, I'll be taking our grandson to visit
Santa Claus. Thank A friend of mine is a is
a big Santa Claus guy, and he looks like the
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real Santa Claus. Gary up, we'll talk to him. Merry Christmas.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Okay, thank you, Danny Ray, thought you soon.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Good night. We'll take a quick break. Got some calls here,
Got room for you. Six one seven two five four
ten thirty. That's the key line that's open right now.
Six one seven, four ten thirty. Be back on night Side.
We got Joe in Boston, Joe and Belmont and Tom
and Ohio and ladies want to jump on. Ladies were
dominating early and I come on back, ladies. We'll be
(30:56):
back after this.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I'm WBZ News Radio. Back to the phones. We're go
gonna go to my good friend Joe in Boston. Joe,
how are you tonight?
Speaker 8 (31:11):
Welcome back, good evening. My brother's dad. I apologize. The
other day I call and I got cross because I
was quirking on the call. Gotta dropped off. But you know,
I apologize problem.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I saw your call and then you weren't there. I
figured something must have come up.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
So go ahead, all right, I'm gonna follow up on
your last color. He's talking about music. I mean, yeah,
gotta say my music guy depending who I take for
my walk in the morning. Well, my favorite son of
them all is living in America. James Brown.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, absolutely hardest working man and show.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
Yeah and bring my expirits up because he's always say
we might not be perfect, but we are the best
country that there is and I'm very proud of being
an American.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Well, you came here and chose this country, which makes you,
as far as I'm concerned, the best American. Okay, and
you did it leave there, but it was your choice.
I didn't have a choice. I was fortunate enough just
to be born here.
Speaker 8 (32:21):
By the way, Yes, I mean you're one of those
guys like I tell my friends. You know, you guys
were born here. You're American by default. I just to
be an American, so I'm more American than you are.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I agree, Joe. I'm with you totally, and I believe that.
Speaker 8 (32:39):
I mean seriously, and I'm very, very grateful to my country, Dan,
I am. Another topic that I wanted to touch up
is your grandchild. You're doing the Christmas trip with your
grand child to see Santa Clauses.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I have a friend of mine I'm going to tell
you who I tell you too. Privately, but I'm not
gonna do uh. He Actually I think he thinks he
is Santa Claus. That's how good he a Santa Claus.
He is in terms of his demeanor, his appearance. He
throws himself into it, and I happen to believe that
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he is Santa Claus. I mean he just if you
met him, say yeah, you know. I mean, it's just.
Speaker 9 (33:33):
I think.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Just he will he's just let me see. He will
be two and a half. He was born in the
fourth of July, so he'll be two and a half
on January.
Speaker 8 (33:46):
Four, after the New year. That's an American kid right there.
That's an American child. Yeah, oh he's what does he
call you?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
He calls me because his parents kind of forced them
to call me papa. And I try to cheat because
I want to. I wanted to be a baseball guy.
Say call me pop up like pop up. But but
he's so it's he'll sometimes pop up. Sometimes he'll say Papa.
Speaker 9 (34:20):
So, uh.
Speaker 8 (34:24):
Yeah, that's the best name of best title of that
you can ever get because it was my grandson, which
is my blessing, which is my God. That's the kid
that I took to the game of the world sucks.
He's now dare. He's a young man. He's a bustle
Latin Ki. He's a young man, he goes.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I was a Boston Latin kid a long time ago.
So how many grandchildren do you have, Joe?
Speaker 8 (34:49):
Yes, that was yes, that was easy, like from a universe.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Then well he's gonna he's gonna do well out of
Boston Line School, I'm sure.
Speaker 10 (35:00):
So we be into a whole bunch of Celtish Celtics
playoff games with me. Last year we went to the
UH Patriots against the Kansas City Chief the Swift game.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
That was That was the game I remember. That was
the game where Taylor Swift showed.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
Up right exactly. And we know a whole bunch of
rest of us game because I'm fortunate enough that I
have clients, they have season tickets.
Speaker 9 (35:28):
When then I.
Speaker 8 (35:29):
Used in those tickets, they called me take your grandson
because they all know my grandson, which is a pleasant.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Joe. If if if I got two more, I got
to get to it. If I don't get a chance
to talk to you between now and Christmas, Merry Christmas
to you, Merry Christmas to your grandson, Merry Christmas to
the entire family.
Speaker 8 (35:49):
Okay, that was the main purpose of my call, yes,
to make sure that I saved. Merry Christmas to you
before you take your little vacation for.
Speaker 9 (35:59):
The they break.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
Don I love you, I think, and I appreciate your
all year and the best of luck.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Joe, right right right back, right back at you and
your family. Joe. So we gotta we gotta get to
a game this year. That's that's that's one of my
New Year's resolution.
Speaker 8 (36:19):
All right, Joe, you make my night. Have a good
night at Thanks.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Joe, talk to you soon. Gotta go to another Joe.
This Joe is my friend in Belmont, Joe and Belmont.
Next time nights, I go ahead, Joe.
Speaker 9 (36:32):
Merry Christmas, Dan.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Merry Christmas to you and many many more.
Speaker 9 (36:37):
Joe, thank you. I'd like to talk about two things.
What did you think about too great baseball players dieing
this year? Willie Mays and Pete Rose.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, you know, it seems every year that we lose
a couple of them, if not hall of famers. Certainly,
Willie Mays was a Hall of Famer and Pete Rose
probably should eventually be in the Hall of Fame. Despite
so of the controversy that surrounded his career all time leader,
what four thousand hits? I think there's one other player
who maybe is even close to that.
Speaker 9 (37:08):
But yeah, I saw Willie Mays playing Candlestick Park around
sixty sixty nine and Don Sudden pitched a one hitter.
And I also saw the game you saw Jim Bunning
pitching a no hitter, atin way.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Did you realize that was in That was in July
of fifty eighth.
Speaker 9 (37:32):
Yeah, I'm two years older than you.
Speaker 8 (37:34):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Let me ask you this. Do you remember who made
the final out and the Jim Bunning no hitter? And
of course Bunning through a no hitter in the National
League too for the Phillies. Do you know who made
the final out against Bunning.
Speaker 9 (37:45):
That day that afternoon, Ted Williams.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yes, sir, flyball to al k Line.
Speaker 9 (37:51):
No, I remember that you told me that before.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah, okay, that's okay. And one other thing I saw
one other one other no here at Fenway Park when
Dave moorehead beat Jones September sixteenth, nineteen sixty five. Those
dates get emblazoned in your mind when you see a
no hitter, because and that was a game. I think
The official attendance was twelve hundred people that day.
Speaker 9 (38:15):
Joe and Pete rose. How many times did he get
over two hundred hits a season? He set a record
for that.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
You had to head a lot of times. Hey, Joe,
I got one more. I got to sneak in. I
just want to wish you happy Merry Christmas and we
will talk soon in the new year.
Speaker 9 (38:33):
Okay, Yeah, I hope you live fifty more years. Dan,
you and your you and your family and your loved ones.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Right back at you, Joe, I've talked soon. Okay, thanks man,
I appreciate it. Two of my favorite Jones Joe, Joe
from Boston and Joe for Belmont. Goodnight, can i Joe?
I got Tom and Ohio, Tom, you're the last. You're
the caboosa on the show tonight. I got about thirty
seconds for you. What can you do with it? Buddy?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Hey, there's have you ever heard a lone star tick? Yes,
mainly down south, but it's it's spreading north that it
gives you alpha gallon. You can never eat meat again.
Have you heard of that?
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I have heard of that, Yes, I have, yes. Okay,
that's a nasty That is a nasty tick, my friend,
there's no.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Doubt that makes lions disease seems like cotton candy.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Well, but yeah, it's it's tough. It is very very tough. Tom.
Whereabouts in Ohio you call him from?
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I'm near Wheeling, West Virginia. I'm about ten miles from Wheeling.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
You know we talked about a couple of weeks ago,
right last week? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm glad this met Michael.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Call if I met Michael mistaken excuse me, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
I think this is your second call.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
You told me I've.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Called you a few times. I met Michael Torres at
a bar in Saint clairso one time I didn't.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Know who he was. Well the picture, sure, absolutely, yeah,
and then to the pitch to Bucky Denty. Got to
go here, Tom, I'm all right, I'll see them talk again.
Merry Christmas. But I'm a flat up against it. Thanks,
my friend. I want to thank Rob Brooks, want to
thank Marie. I got to wrap it up here quickly.
All dogs, all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's
where Mike pell Charlie ray Is, who passed fourteen years
(40:13):
agoing to febly. That's well, all your pets are our past.
They loved you and you love them. I do believe
you'll see them again, see you get them more. Night
on nightside everyone. I'll be on Facebook in just a moment.
It's a nice size.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm doing you easy.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
By the way, coming up tomorrow night at nine o'clock
New Hampshire Governor Chris Sinunu Governor soon, who has been
a guest in the last several years on Night's Side
on a fairly regular basis, and tomorrow he's committed to
spending an hour with us from nine to ten and
he'll take as many phone calls as you want, So
(00:26):
this is an opportunity to I think he's a true
has been a terrific governor. I think he's the best
governor in the country. I think he's been the best
governor of the country for the entirety of his term.
He has been exactly what New Hampshire needed. And we'll
talk about maybe his future where he's certainly not going
to be on Donald Trump's short list of cabinet nominees,
(00:48):
that's for sure, but he maintained his integrity, which is
what I admire most about Chris Sinunu, as well as
his intelligence and a sense of humor. So we'll have
him tomorrow night for you. This is an opportunity for
you to speak with the governor of New Hampshire. Coming
up on Thursday night, we will have the wc car
guys from ten until twelve and ten until twelve on
(01:10):
Friday night will be the twelfth annual night Side Charity Combine.
We have some great guests lined up for that those
two hours to introduce you to people do really great
things and if you like to help them, you can
get in contact just about every type of cause you
can imagine. We will profile on Friday night, but for now,
(01:34):
I'd like to follow up and get your reaction to
the last hour with doctor Alfred Miller and doctor Robert Bransfield,
two really extraordinary guests in my opinion, and I think
also the first time callers Dave from Maine and Dennis
from Florida. Dentist Dennis the dentist from Florida, and also
good questions from Karen in Watertown, Tracy and Nashua a
(01:57):
nurse and ed and nowan quality guests and high quality
phone calls. That is what night Side at its best
is what it's about. And we will continue right now
with a couple of more good quality phone callers. Let
me go to Danielle and Wooster. Danielle, I know you
were holding on, but we ran out of time with
(02:17):
the with the with the doctors, so you got me.
That's all you got left.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Going ahead, Okay, it's okay. The pressure of the high
quality phone call.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
First, they wanted to thank the woman caller, sorry that
I didn't catch her name, for kind of you know,
making it clear that, hey, I have had line for years,
and not everybody is silent.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
I think that.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I mean some people, you know, perception of things. I
don't always hear the whole conversation.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And yeah, no, I understand. I thought that her call
was very was very important. And I think that the
quick agreement of the two doctors, I mean, there was
no fight from the doctors.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
On that, and no, not at all.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
But I also think the doctors are owed a tremendous
amount of gratitude for bringing to light, you know, lime
and how understated it's been for years. I think I
started to tell you the last time you had the
subject on the air. Very good friend of mine, longtime neighbor,
no longer a neighbor, but still a friend. Her mother
(03:14):
died uh in twenty eleven. I believe it was of
n state lime disease, but unfortunately she was diagnosed with
als and by the time they realized it was Lime,
that was far too late, and she unfortunately passed away.
In her honor, my good friend Michelle founded the Central
(03:35):
Mass Line Foundation, which I thought i'd give her a
little plug. She's got a great Facebook group, you know,
for local people. Anybody can join it, but you know,
especially the local people. She does a lot of seminars
and such with just unbelievably amazing information and funny. She
just made a post about She shared a post from
(03:56):
the lime dot org. I think it's site about MANJIONI
is connection possibility to line just four days ago. She's
tremendous and it's near and dear to her heart, and
you know, because of her mom, and she's just brought
so much awareness to this neck of the woods for
(04:16):
lyme disease. She goes on, if you ever find a tick,
you know to save it. And a lot of the
doctors around here don't test properly. I think that your
guests started to touch on that. You know, they're they're
very limited their testing. So I think it's idexx Labs
don't quote me on it, that will send you a
pre test kit so that you can get an analyzed
but I think now that was years ago.
Speaker 7 (04:38):
I think now.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
There's more people that are doing it the right way.
So it's just so important that this is this is
you know, broad to force into people because there's so
many diagnoses out there that are turning out to not
be what they what they were diagnosed. It's lime. Uh,
they're linking, They're they're taking second look at Alzheimer's.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
My grains is just so much that well, I can
tell you that.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
That doc that doctor Miller.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Has, her last name is Miller, ironically.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Ironically, Yeah, but doctor Miller, who I've now known for
many years, has always emphasized me, uh, the number of
uh neuro diseases, Yeah, people contract, including things like a
l S and Parkinson.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Do you remember the ice ice bucket challenge? Remember the
ice bucket challenge?
Speaker 8 (05:36):
Remember the ice buckets?
Speaker 4 (05:38):
And uh, you know Michelle. You know there was people
that are in support of Michelle and her quest here
that would not participate in the ALS challenge because of
the overlap and misdiagnosis between LIME and ALS. So this
is going back years ago. So that's how hard she's
working to bring us to foolish And so that was
(06:01):
that was one thing I wanted to plug just really quick,
so I know I'm with you know measing a lot
of times. The other thing was they made mention of
impulsive behavior that this you know a lot of people
wake up and just do something random, and what in
the heck? What were they thinking, like there's no rhyme
or reason, and I don't That's the one thing about
the man's the only case that kind of struck accord
(06:22):
with me, because didn't they say that he manufactured this
gun from like a three D printer.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
That's that's what the au.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
So I'm not saying that it's not really his line,
but I just think this was a bit more calculated
than an impulse of that. I mean, he clearly thought
this though and had new well.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
It was very calculated because he had to be in
the position outside that particular entrance to the Hilton hotel,
and I think that much more is going to come out.
Did was he able to get information either advertently or
inadvertently from someone who could tell him where this guy
was because he arrived there just a few minutes before
(07:05):
the gentleman was walking down the street, and.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
He was in a perfect position, you know about that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Right, I have no idea what you're talking about in
that I did. I didn't quite I was I was
making a point. I didn't he want you to go ahead
and make your point.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
They referred to, you know, his wife and two children,
but they had been separated for a year, they lived
in a separate household. So I just, I mean, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Well, that is nothing to do with anything. I mean,
there's no suggestion that that was involved in this. And
there are a lot of families who, you know, you have,
have been separated for a period of time and they
get back together and then they you know, So I mean,
his personal life is something that I'm I'm totally.
Speaker 9 (07:51):
Unaware of that.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
At that did a whole thing on her. Her response
to the media kind of broke it down and gave
his thoughts.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
So I just, Danielle, look, I you know, first of all,
I I have no idea how long you were married.
I have no idea what the relationship was. I don't
think that you know the fact that that they had
had had separated, they were still married, they still had
two children. You know, people deal with situations and circumstances differently,
(08:25):
so I think that's an area that there's no reason
for us to uh, you know, to spend much more
time talking about that one. That's for sure in my opinion.
All Right, Daniell, I'm gonna let you go. I thought
you made a bunch of great points earlier in the
conversation about.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
It's a great, great subject. I'm glad that you do it,
and hopefully we can have both guests one again, because
they are amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, they're tough, they're tough to get, they're not easy
to get, but it happened to work, you know there.
They are very solid, solid citizens. Thanks, thank you, Danielle. Well,
we'll continue you our conversation. If you want to react
to what doctor Al Miller and doctor Robert Brinsfeld talked
about last hour about lime disease, I'd be more than
(09:08):
happy to entertain a few more calls on that. I
have Barbara, who's calling in from Connecticut. Let's keep the
ball roll in six one, seven, two, five, four ten
thirty six one, seven, nine, three, ten thirty. Again. I
think Nightside at its best is what we did tonight.
We talked earlier about the drones over America. Uh, I'm
(09:31):
going to be very interested to find out how that
works out. If you like to comment on that from earlier,
you're welcome. We just had lost Barbara, who was here, Barbara,
I'm sorry if you got disconnected, please call back and
we will get you back on uh in priority. UH.
And if you like to comment on what we talked
about last hour, lime disease and whether or not that
(09:53):
might have had an impact on this, uh, this fellow
who I cont some much sympathy for Luigi Manzioni, and
I don't want anyone to think that, uh, that that
there was any sympathy here for him, uh, because there
are other reasons that. I mean, what he did was
(10:14):
just reprehensible. Barbara and Connecticut love to have you back.
You were held it, you held on for a long time.
I apologize it and get to you. Six one seven
two five four ten thirty six's seven nine three six
on't seven nine three one ten thirty coming right back on.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Nightside now back to Dan ray Line from the Window
World Nightside Studios on WITBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
By the way, I just wanted to mention that doctor
Bransfield is working on a piece he told me for
the Wall Street Journal. So if your journal readers, you
may want to look at that when it's published. Uh.
He is a prolific writer and you can find just
google him in you get more information from him. Also,
(11:03):
you can google doctor Miller, and many of my listeners
have reached out to doctor Alfred Miller. It's doctor al Miller.
Just a one word at gmail dot com. I just
had someone was kind enough to leave me a message
about the passing of a dear friend of mine, a
(11:26):
lawyer here in Boston. I'm not going to mention it
on the air. I'll wait, I guess, and see it
in the obituaries tomorrow. But boy, it's tough when there
are people who at one point in your life were
very important and they might have helped you along the road,
whether it's in your career or in your personal life.
(11:49):
And sometimes they're you know, ten or fifteen or twenty
years older than you. And so we say, no one
gets out of this place alive. Let me go next
to Tim in Wooburn. Tim, welcome back. How are you, sir?
Speaker 5 (12:02):
I'm good, Dan, how are you? I never knew much
about lime disease, but I know now after listening to
this these two doctors, you know I.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Just think they're extraordinary guests. And I got to tell you,
Al Miller has been a friend of mine for several
years and we talked a couple of times over the
weekend and he was the one who suggested Doctor Brandsfield
and they were both great. I'm so proud of that hour. Uh,
(12:32):
you know, you pull that hour together. I'm proud of
the show tonight. And that's what's you know there earlier.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Night when it was great. I loved it.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Well, thank you, Tim, I appreciate that.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah. Tim called on Friday night and told the world
that he hadn't received this coffee mic. He won a
mug here on nightside from our friends at College Hype,
and I said, you know, Tim, I'm sure it's on
the way, And he was kind enough to call me
on Saturday morning and send me a message on Saturday
morning that the mug had arrived. And I hope that
(13:08):
you've enjoyed the mug. It's it's a good dark blue,
kind of like a cobalt blue blue cover.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
And yeah, it says it's navy. And also right as
I was the shipping I have the packing slip right
in my hand. It's a ship date December sixteenth. I
would I received it the fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
No was it was? It was shipped on December sixth.
You said, right, right.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Date December sixteenth. But I got it the fourteenth, which
was great.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
No, No, it wasn't. It wasn't shipped on December sixteenth.
December sixteenth is uh what uh sixteenth was is today today?
So I guarantee it wasn't shifting in it. We probably
was shipped on December sixth as a matter of fact.
But again, if folks want to get any knightside gear,
(14:02):
they can go to a nightside gear dot com. If
you're looking for a quick Christmas present Honica President quansa
present for yourself, go to knightsidegear dot com. Or you
can also go to my citygear dot com, which gives
you if you if you grew up in the Boston
area and you're looking for a T shirt or something
(14:23):
that commemorates your old neighborhood, whether it's South or Charlestown
or Dorchester or Roxbury a Mattapana Hyde Park or West
Roxbury or Brighton or South End, North End, East Boston,
back Bay, it's all there. It's all there.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Yeah. Anyhow, I'd like to send you a Christmas Christmas greeting.
And I in the in this paper right it says, uh,
Jack dolreaty U five quody Galvan Gallavan Boulevard, Dorchester. Can
I send you something?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Can you send me something?
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Christmas card?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, just just send me a just send
me a Christmas card. That's fine, but or just this
is a Christmas greeting. Just wish me merry Christmas. And
I wish you merry Christmas as well, Tim, So don't
there's no need to say thank you. The fact that
you call my show and listen to my show that's
more than thank you. Why wouldn't I Why would I
not be nice to you? So no, thank Adam.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Yeah, you treat treat me like gold. Anyhow, I wish
you when you are a merry Christmas. I hope Sanna
is good to everyone and I will forward to meeting
you someday.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
All right, thank you, Tim, enjoy that coffee mug and uh,
and hopefully as a result some people it's it's not
the coffee Munk's a beautiful coffee mug and people, yeah,
it's great.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
It's navy, it's beautiful and.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
It's right, Dan Rabel ROI for reason.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Thank you very much. All right, Tim, you have great,
great Christmas and we'll talk soon. Okay, thank you so much.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
Okay, thank you, Dan, Dot you sir.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Good night. Let me go next to up Charlotte in Connecticut. Charlotte, welcome.
How are you tonight?
Speaker 7 (16:07):
Hi, good evening, Dan, how are you?
Speaker 5 (16:09):
I thank you?
Speaker 7 (16:13):
And this is the doctors, but I'm catching the last
hour of your show. I have suffered many times from
blame disease, and the last time was for a sixteen
day stay at the hospital. People don't understand that it
is a paralyzing neurological bugger, A little bugger.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Yeah, who I know.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Who literally have had their lives upended. I mean everybody understands. You.
You hear about someone who's in a bad car crash,
or I've heard about your friends of mine who worked
as roofers or they fell off a roof, and you
understand that. But when you think about this little tick
bite someone And I know I have one friend of
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mine who was virtually debilitated. She traced it to lime disease,
and her dad was a well known doctor in Boston
and trying to get her some relief from it, and
it plagued her for twenty years. So it's been around
a while and your story is gone alone. Charlotte, How
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is it that you've been so many times? Are you
a god?
Speaker 7 (17:30):
I live in Connecticut. I live in East Lime one
Tunnel Wine, which is the originator of London.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Absolutely. Yeah, I have been to East Line, Connecticut, by
the way, it's a beautiful part of the state.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
People don't understand that there are eighteen different species of
lime disease. So if you go in and you have
the symptoms and they tell you you don't have it,
there's a lot of false negatives which would actually positives.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Right, You're absolutely right, and I hope that tomorrow you
take the time to listen to the Hour at ten
o'clock with doctor Miller and doctor Bransfield. You you. Doctor
Miller made the exact point that sometimes if they test
you for the wrong type of and he used to
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figure eighteen types of lime disease, and if they test
you for the wrong type of lime disease, you're going
to get a negative result. IM going to do tomorrow's
go to Nightside on demand dot com and just look
for the tenant for the ten o'clock hour, which is
going to be very obvious you will enjoy it. My
question to you is, obviously there's ways in which you
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can prevent line disease, particularly if you live in like
a place like East Line, Connecticut. There are some sprays
that you can use. There are some ways to make
sure that if you're out in a cart, particularly when
they're when they're active, make sure that the body of
either your pants or your sleeves or tied tightly. And
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obviously when you get back in the house, you want
to make sure you particularly if you've.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Been water right.
Speaker 7 (19:13):
So I guard and go to the beach a lot,
and ticks hang out also at the beach. They cannot
fly through the air, they can be on those bushes.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Whatever.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
What I wanted to say is my memory is shot.
That was one of the things I wanted to talk about.
I'm going through a euro test next week with my PCP.
Because of this, I tire quite easily. I'm sixty too young.
My memory is shot. I have a long term which
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is yeah, it's scary, it's real.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
It's sixty two. You're a young person, I know.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
But to feel this way at sixty two. It it
is quite scary, but yes, I do as you say.
I go outside to garden, I wear my wellies. I
wear my my black wellies. I walk the dog, I
wear my black wellies. I go to the beach, I
spray my tanning lotion on and then I spray with
(20:19):
bug spray. And again, I've learned very numerous ways to
be preventative. My husband and I spot each other we
come back from the beach, and these little buggers like
to hide where it's moist, pits, knees, ears, wherever you're.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Yeah, and literally.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Believe that between your toes specific you have to be so.
But just again, it can, it can change your life.
Some people could be by lime tick and have no
impact from what I understand.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
My understanding is that thirty, yeah, thirty percent of people
that do get bit will not have a symptom as
the bullseye. And I've had both. I've had, I've had
no showing of a mark and the last time.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
I had it.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
But even people who are who are a bit from
what I understand, by active you know ticks that have
the brillia, as doctor Miller would say, yea, and somehow
this system is immune from it. Look, there are people
who get struck by lightning and die, and the people
get struck by lightning and get up and and walk away.
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So yeah, you have to just look out, you know,
for yourself.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
And I tell people, yeah to when your kids are outside,
put a blanket down on the grass. Please check your children.
These even if you're in Maine or if you New
Hampshire wherever, they are now everywhere.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
They're on.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
Everywhere England, so you know, you get to think twice
about going outside.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
You'd be safe.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
But I appreciate your time in addressing this very concerning illness,
which is well Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
If you have any time tomorrow, just go to Nights
On and Demand. We put all of our hours up
in podcast form. You got to listen to a few ads,
but it's well worth it to listen to.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
It's always nice to learn more, to educate yourself more
in this because it seems that it's a very progressive illness.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
And a little before you go, let me ask you
have you called my show before?
Speaker 9 (22:33):
No, I have called.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
I have called in the past. It was many years ago.
I think it was eighteen. I was living in New Hampshire,
but in eighteen we had talked and so I'm not
a first time caller, but I am a big time listener.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
How's that?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Well, thank you very much. I hope you become a
regular caller. Okay, thank you.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
Sure.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
I wish you and your family and merry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And happy right back right back at you all. Thanks
so much, talk soon, all right? We got the eleventh
the News at eleven thirty coming up, and then we'll
get to more calls. I would love to continue to
talk about your experience with lime disease, because we had
really a uh an important hour, that's the best way
to describe it. And if you missed it, I hope
you'll listen to it tomorrow on Nightside and demand if
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you liked. If you if we're done on lime disease
and you want to talk about another topic, I'll give
you a little an open line opportunity as well. I
just think there's not much I can do to top
where doctor Al Miller and doctor Robert Bransfeld contributed. Brands Field,
excuse me, contributed to our audience last hour. But feel
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free your experience is a very important six one, seven, two, five,
four to ten thirty and six one, seven, nine, three,
ten thirty, and so they said tomorrow night at nine
o'clock New Hampshire Governor Chris Soon, who probably won't be
his last time here on nights Side. Hopefully he'll be
a guest even after he leaves the Governor's Office in
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New Hampshire. So fill up the lines. I got some
open lines. Let's have at it. It's a Monday night.
We're moving into the Christmas Hanukkah Kwansa season. I'd like
to be specific. If you want to wish me a
merry Christmas. I would appreciate it. Back on Nightside, right
after the news, a little bit late, but here it comes.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
It's night Side with.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
All right. As I was saying, news is over, let's
go back to the calls, the lines are quiet. I'd
love to know get your reaction to the last hour.
You want more programming like that or less programming like that?
I thought it was a great hour, a lot of information,
something that can apply to literally everyone who's listening. Let
me go to Gary in Wuburn, Gary next on Nightsaga.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Right ahead, Dan, do you want me to hang up?
I didn't want to talk about wine disease.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
No talk about it. I said, it's open. You can
talk what you want to talk about.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Go right ahead, thank you, dear uh Sonno, uh, he's
not gonna be covering anymore. What's he gonna be doing next.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I'm gonna find out tomorrow night.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
You don't know.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
I think you're talking with him all the time.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I do, I do, But I think that I never
asked him, you know, to tell me, And I thought
I'd wait until tomorrow night.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
Okay, question, what are you doing on your Christmas r K?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I tend to stay in the in the area. A
lot of people like to run, you know, get out
of town. But I love Christmas. I suspect you probably
do as well.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
And I spend time kind of looking back on the year,
kind of trying to pull my my thoughts together and
get ready for the next uh, for the next year,
which will come at us very quickly. I love Christmas.
I love the run up to Christmas, and I also
loved the few days after Christmas where you can kind
(25:58):
of kick back and you have nothing to do. Who
I'm not the most exciting guy in the world. Gary,
you know what I'm saying. I mean, other people say no,
I'm going to fly to a rube or and spend
If not me, that's the last time. What are you
doing over Christmas?
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Well, I'm a very boring guy. As a single guy,
I do have family and so forth. But you know,
I've been in a few homes o brothers that invite
me out with their wives dinner and so forth, and
be with all the grandkids and casting out presents. And
I'm among the family, of course, But I my son,
I'm alone again. I've always loved to be alone. One
of my favorite things to do in life is just
jumping my recline to chair, like a lot of people
(26:38):
who are listening, throw on your blanket and listen to
Night's Side and fall asleep and listen at the same
time and to the night just listening to music and
being in my recliner. How about you.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I mean, I think it's relaxing. Many people will tell me, oh,
I listen to night Side or go to sleep, and
it's like everyone will say, but I leave the radio on,
which is fine with me. Whatever however they whatever they
want to do, is fine with me. I just think
that that week between Christmas and New Year's I'm not
a New Year's Eve guy, I was when I was
(27:11):
single many years ago. Okay, but and when I was
in TV, I covered many of the New Year's Eve
first night celebrations. I covered some of the first First
Night celebrations back in the seventies. A lot of fun
and all of that. But as you get a little older,
you realize that, hey, I can enjoy You know. The
(27:33):
other thing too, that for me is great, at least
during Christmas vacation. I'd love to know what other people
think about it is I get to catch up on
my sports a little bit. Because one of the things
about working eight to midnight is I'll miss this Bruins
game or missed that Celtics game. I can kick back
and see the college bowl games. I just think it's
a great time of year to to like you. I mean,
(27:55):
it sounds like that. You know, you stick with your
family and that's that's about. That's all the excitement I need.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
I had a thing, a suggestion to you, but you
kind of shot it down a couple months ago. But
let I throw it right back before I go. You know,
you got your final hour. You talk about the famous
celebrities and so forth, which is awesome. How about this?
I already proposed this, yere I think, I don't think
it's dumb, but you really did shoot it down almost
felt made me feel kind of foolish. But what is
your go to song in life? To listen to older
(28:26):
younger country music rockt it? What's your go to song
that makes you feel good? We listened to the radio
all the time. I mean, which song makes you sing
all the time? For your song E've been singing like
for fifty years? Like I'm a Bobby Vinton guy. There
I said it again. The Benach City of you rolla
is Saturday night you catch my drift?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, you're a music guy. There's a lot of people
who probably don't have a specific song for me at
Christmas time, it's you know all I want for Christmas?
The Mariah Carey song is a great song during other
times of the year for being swilly, nell and on
the road again, I mean, because that's one I can
actually remember the lyrics to. I have a tough time
either understanding the lyrics on some songs these at these days,
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But yeah, I might do.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
How about Billie sa Christmas has time to say I
love you?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Not familiar with that one.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
Well, you're playing commercials and I'll be listening.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I'm not a big music guy, so that's why. But
somenight i'll do that. As a matter of fact, I
can't do it this Friday night because we're doing the
charity combine. But I'll make it as a new Year's
resolution if you will remind me like Wednesday or Thursday,
because I don't decide on the twentieth hour until you
(29:45):
know Wednesday or Thursday. I like the brushes with celebrity
because it's always worked well, and people tell stories about
meeting people who you know are famous or semi famous,
and it's fun to listen about the people who treat
them well. And maybe it's also fun or to hear
the people that don't treat him well. But I we
we we push our topics around, that's for sure. Hey, Gary,
(30:08):
I'm up at my break. I gotta let you go.
Thanks for thanks for checking in tonight. If I don't
talk to you, have a great merry Christmas. And a
week from tonight, I'll be taking our grandson to visit
Santa Claus. Thank A friend of mine is a is
a big Santa Claus guy, and he looks like the
(30:29):
real Santa Claus. Gary up, we'll talk to him. Merry Christmas.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Okay, thank you, Danny Ray, thought you soon.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Good night. We'll take a quick break. Got some calls here,
Got room for you. Six one seven two five four
ten thirty. That's the key line that's open right now.
Six one seven, four ten thirty. Be back on night Side.
We got Joe in Boston, Joe and Belmont and Tom
and Ohio and ladies want to jump on. Ladies were
dominating early and I come on back, ladies. We'll be
(30:56):
back after this.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I'm WBZ News Radio. Back to the phones. We're go
gonna go to my good friend Joe in Boston. Joe,
how are you tonight?
Speaker 8 (31:11):
Welcome back, good evening. My brother's dad. I apologize. The
other day I call and I got cross because I
was quirking on the call. Gotta dropped off. But you know,
I apologize problem.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I saw your call and then you weren't there. I
figured something must have come up.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
So go ahead, all right, I'm gonna follow up on
your last color. He's talking about music. I mean, yeah,
gotta say my music guy depending who I take for
my walk in the morning. Well, my favorite son of
them all is living in America. James Brown.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, absolutely hardest working man and show.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
Yeah and bring my expirits up because he's always say
we might not be perfect, but we are the best
country that there is and I'm very proud of being
an American.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Well, you came here and chose this country, which makes you,
as far as I'm concerned, the best American. Okay, and
you did it leave there, but it was your choice.
I didn't have a choice. I was fortunate enough just
to be born here.
Speaker 8 (32:21):
By the way, Yes, I mean you're one of those
guys like I tell my friends. You know, you guys
were born here. You're American by default. I just to
be an American, so I'm more American than you are.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I agree, Joe. I'm with you totally, and I believe that.
Speaker 8 (32:39):
I mean seriously, and I'm very, very grateful to my country, Dan,
I am. Another topic that I wanted to touch up
is your grandchild. You're doing the Christmas trip with your
grand child to see Santa Clauses.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I have a friend of mine I'm going to tell
you who I tell you too. Privately, but I'm not
gonna do uh. He Actually I think he thinks he
is Santa Claus. That's how good he a Santa Claus.
He is in terms of his demeanor, his appearance. He
throws himself into it, and I happen to believe that
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he is Santa Claus. I mean he just if you
met him, say yeah, you know. I mean, it's just.
Speaker 9 (33:33):
I think.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Just he will he's just let me see. He will
be two and a half. He was born in the
fourth of July, so he'll be two and a half
on January.
Speaker 8 (33:46):
Four, after the New year. That's an American kid right there.
That's an American child. Yeah, oh he's what does he
call you?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
He calls me because his parents kind of forced them
to call me papa. And I try to cheat because
I want to. I wanted to be a baseball guy.
Say call me pop up like pop up. But but
he's so it's he'll sometimes pop up. Sometimes he'll say Papa.
Speaker 9 (34:20):
So, uh.
Speaker 8 (34:24):
Yeah, that's the best name of best title of that
you can ever get because it was my grandson, which
is my blessing, which is my God. That's the kid
that I took to the game of the world sucks.
He's now dare. He's a young man. He's a bustle
Latin Ki. He's a young man, he goes.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I was a Boston Latin kid a long time ago.
So how many grandchildren do you have, Joe?
Speaker 8 (34:49):
Yes, that was yes, that was easy, like from a universe.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Then well he's gonna he's gonna do well out of
Boston Line School, I'm sure.
Speaker 10 (35:00):
So we be into a whole bunch of Celtish Celtics
playoff games with me. Last year we went to the
UH Patriots against the Kansas City Chief the Swift game.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
That was That was the game I remember. That was
the game where Taylor Swift showed.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
Up right exactly. And we know a whole bunch of
rest of us game because I'm fortunate enough that I
have clients, they have season tickets.
Speaker 9 (35:28):
When then I.
Speaker 8 (35:29):
Used in those tickets, they called me take your grandson
because they all know my grandson, which is a pleasant.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Joe. If if if I got two more, I got
to get to it. If I don't get a chance
to talk to you between now and Christmas, Merry Christmas
to you, Merry Christmas to your grandson, Merry Christmas to
the entire family.
Speaker 8 (35:49):
Okay, that was the main purpose of my call, yes,
to make sure that I saved. Merry Christmas to you
before you take your little vacation for.
Speaker 9 (35:59):
The they break.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
Don I love you, I think, and I appreciate your
all year and the best of luck.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Joe, right right right back, right back at you and
your family. Joe. So we gotta we gotta get to
a game this year. That's that's that's one of my
New Year's resolution.
Speaker 8 (36:19):
All right, Joe, you make my night. Have a good
night at Thanks.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Joe, talk to you soon. Gotta go to another Joe.
This Joe is my friend in Belmont, Joe and Belmont.
Next time nights, I go ahead, Joe.
Speaker 9 (36:32):
Merry Christmas, Dan.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Merry Christmas to you and many many more.
Speaker 9 (36:37):
Joe, thank you. I'd like to talk about two things.
What did you think about too great baseball players dieing
this year? Willie Mays and Pete Rose.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, you know, it seems every year that we lose
a couple of them, if not hall of famers. Certainly,
Willie Mays was a Hall of Famer and Pete Rose
probably should eventually be in the Hall of Fame. Despite
so of the controversy that surrounded his career all time leader,
what four thousand hits? I think there's one other player
who maybe is even close to that.
Speaker 9 (37:08):
But yeah, I saw Willie Mays playing Candlestick Park around
sixty sixty nine and Don Sudden pitched a one hitter.
And I also saw the game you saw Jim Bunning
pitching a no hitter, atin way.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Did you realize that was in That was in July
of fifty eighth.
Speaker 9 (37:32):
Yeah, I'm two years older than you.
Speaker 8 (37:34):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Let me ask you this. Do you remember who made
the final out and the Jim Bunning no hitter? And
of course Bunning through a no hitter in the National
League too for the Phillies. Do you know who made
the final out against Bunning.
Speaker 9 (37:45):
That day that afternoon, Ted Williams.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yes, sir, flyball to al k Line.
Speaker 9 (37:51):
No, I remember that you told me that before.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah, okay, that's okay. And one other thing I saw
one other one other no here at Fenway Park when
Dave moorehead beat Jones September sixteenth, nineteen sixty five. Those
dates get emblazoned in your mind when you see a
no hitter, because and that was a game. I think
The official attendance was twelve hundred people that day.
Speaker 9 (38:15):
Joe and Pete rose. How many times did he get
over two hundred hits a season? He set a record
for that.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
You had to head a lot of times. Hey, Joe,
I got one more. I got to sneak in. I
just want to wish you happy Merry Christmas and we
will talk soon in the new year.
Speaker 9 (38:33):
Okay, Yeah, I hope you live fifty more years. Dan,
you and your you and your family and your loved ones.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Right back at you, Joe, I've talked soon. Okay, thanks man,
I appreciate it. Two of my favorite Jones Joe, Joe
from Boston and Joe for Belmont. Goodnight, can i Joe?
I got Tom and Ohio, Tom, you're the last. You're
the caboosa on the show tonight. I got about thirty
seconds for you. What can you do with it? Buddy?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Hey, there's have you ever heard a lone star tick? Yes,
mainly down south, but it's it's spreading north that it
gives you alpha gallon. You can never eat meat again.
Have you heard of that?
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I have heard of that, Yes, I have, yes. Okay,
that's a nasty That is a nasty tick, my friend,
there's no.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Doubt that makes lions disease seems like cotton candy.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Well, but yeah, it's it's tough. It is very very tough. Tom.
Whereabouts in Ohio you call him from?
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I'm near Wheeling, West Virginia. I'm about ten miles from Wheeling.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
You know we talked about a couple of weeks ago,
right last week? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm glad this met Michael.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Call if I met Michael mistaken excuse me, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
I think this is your second call.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
You told me I've.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Called you a few times. I met Michael Torres at
a bar in Saint clairso one time I didn't.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Know who he was. Well the picture, sure, absolutely, yeah,
and then to the pitch to Bucky Denty. Got to
go here, Tom, I'm all right, I'll see them talk again.
Merry Christmas. But I'm a flat up against it. Thanks,
my friend. I want to thank Rob Brooks, want to
thank Marie. I got to wrap it up here quickly.
All dogs, all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's
where Mike pell Charlie ray Is, who passed fourteen years
(40:13):
agoing to febly. That's well, all your pets are our past.
They loved you and you love them. I do believe
you'll see them again, see you get them more. Night
on nightside everyone. I'll be on Facebook in just a moment.
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