August 13, 2025 • 39 mins
One aspect of life that is inevitable is that eventually, we all die. With nearly 170,000 deaths occurring worldwide daily, urban cemeteries across the globe are approaching full capacity. Arlington National Cemetery in Viginia is nearly full and with current burial rates, Arlington will be completely full in about 25 years. The funeral industry is facing growing pressure to adopt scalable, sustainable alternatives that reflect both environmental and cultural shifts. What happens when we do run out of space? What do you do when you have more people dying than there is space to put them?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Nights with Dan Ray.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
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Before we changed topics here in the eleven o'clock hour,
we did have one caller who took advantage of the
iHeartRadio app to amend something that he said. I'm not
sure which call of this was, but I want to
give him an opportunity to make the point that he
apparently was unable to make during our conversation. I played
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Rob Dan.
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Maybe I didn't make it clear, but when I registered
my three speed moped, I indeed had to buy insurance.
It was I think it's one hundred and twenty five
dollars a year. Thanks Bye.
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me or not, last hour, we had some fun. I
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will certainly also thank Dave for p for being a
good sport. He and I see the world a little
bit differently, and it was a a good fun conversation
in my opinion, I hope he feels the same way.
Here's what we want to do now. I want to
change topics. And we mentioned this earlier tonight, but here's
some statistics that I came across which I thought was
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pretty which are pretty interesting. There's almost eight billion people
living in the world today. I think most of us
are familiar with that figure. For a long time, it's
been seven billion, and it keeps creeping up. Who wants
to take a guest, and I'm not going to ask
for phone calls in this, but take a guess as
to how many people have lived the estimate as to
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how many people have lived in the history of the world,
going back to the beginning of time. I'll give you
a moment to think of the number. It's eight billion
today who are living today. One hundred years from now,
those eight billion, of which you and I are include,
will probably have passed on. Apparently they believe that it's
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been about one hundred and seven billion people who have
at one point lived on earth. Now, all of those people,
if we take the one hundred and seven and we
subtract eight, that means ninety nine billion have come and gone.
They buried in some form of fashion. Maybe some of
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them were buried in King Tut's tomb. I guess King
Tut was buried in King tuts tom. But the fact
that the matter is is probably ninety nine billion people
who have been buried. We're running out of space, you know,
burying people. If you have driven by a cemetery recently,
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they're pretty full. Now. I know there's lots of space
in the world, but people like to have cemeteries close
by so they can visit their their family members, and
there's a whole bunch of things going on. Cremation is
up in the US, I guess in twenty twenty one,
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fifty seven percent a little over fifty seven percent of
the people who died were cremated. In Canada, it was
almost seventy five percent. They're a little bit more progressive.
So my first question tonight is have you thought about
I mean, no one gets out of here alive. We
have to understand that. Oh, those of us who happened
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to be Christian believed there was one guy named Jesus
who rose from the dead. But everybody else when it's time,
it's time. Okay, sad but true. And you try to
leave a good reputation, to try to leave a legacy,
You try to leave some kindness and all of that,
but at some point everybody's got to check out. So
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the question is, as time goes on, where are we
going to bury people and how we're going to bury people.
There are real problems in some cities around the world.
In London, for example, they're just running on a room.
I mean it's a small island nation when you think
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about it, and they have a lot of people and
they have they don't have anywhere else to put them.
There are different ways that people can be interred. I
have a fellow who I know doubted the KP. He
does burials at sea. That's becoming more popular. Do you
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want to take a guess as to how many people
worldwide die every day in this world? You can probably
figure it out a little bit. I guess the calculation
is one hundred and seventy thousand people. That's enough to
fill I guess fourth Benway Parks, just to put it
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in maybe three Gillette stadiums. Every day people come and
people go, and all of us are in that parade
and we don't know when the parade ends. People now
are saying, just as they said last hour, we were
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talking about carbon dioxide and all of that, that cremation
which if it happens to be your choice, you know,
people get their ashes scattered. Some people religiously don't want that.
There was a woman in our our Nightside pregained this afternoon,
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who was saying that she's fearful of cremation in case
she's still alive. Well, I guess that's that's her apprehension.
The fact of the matter is people get cremated and
they have their ashes spread in various points. I guess
that's going to take some of the pressure off cemeteries.
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But cemeteries are filling up. Arlington National Cemetery is filling up,
and at some point in time, as I understand it,
Arlington National Cemetery is going to basically say that the
only people who can be buried there would be people
killed in action, and there aren't many in recent years.
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I mean, sadly there have been some, but in World
War Two, in Korea and Vietnam you had thousands upon thousands.
So these are issues you got to think about. And
I don't know, I would love to hear from as
many of you as possible. It's not a subject that
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most people enjoy talking about, but it's a subjec that
you need to at least contemplate. And the fact of
the matter is that the cemeteries are filling up, and
the traditional burial that most of us who are adults
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have talked about creation obviously is becoming more popular. Burial
at sea. I read one article that said that people
can be reduced to a diamond, like you know how
a diamond, So theoretically you could you could leave yourself
as a diamond. I guess I don't know how much
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that costs, but there are costs associated with everything. And
in some places they're now saying that what they need
to do is reuse graves. So if somebody has been
very let's say for one hundred or more years or
one hundred and fifty years, that they then would open
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up the grave and put someone else in there. It's
there's a lot of ideas here. I'd love to know.
Have you thought about it? And if you have, great,
If you haven't, tell me, that's okay. And if you
have thought about it, what have you decided. We talked
last night briefly about with artificial intelligence and videotape. Pretty
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soon you're going to go to you're gonna go to
a funeral and you are awake and you're going to
listen to the person deliver their own eulogy. That'll be
one of those Well, thank you all for coming today. Obviously,
I passed away a few days ago, and I prepared
my eulogy in anticipation of this event, and I just
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want to say it was a great ride and people
could talk. Oh you, I'm telling you. Things are changing
and we got to be prepared for them. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Have you contemplated what you would like to happen once
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you've passed? Are you leaving that to your family to decide?
I think you can do that. You have to think
about it as difficult and as as tough as it is.
Join the conversation. I got wide open lines six months,
seven two, five, four ten thirty six seven nine, three
one ten thirty. I thought there would be more interest
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in this topic, frankly showing you how much I know
than our earlier topic, motorized vehicles. Join the conversation. Light
those lines up. I'm here toll midnight. I hope you
are too. I don't think we've actually had an out
of state caller tonight. I'll have to double check on that,
because the reason I believe that and I am correct
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on that, no out of state callers. We were talking
about laws for scooters and motor rice bicycles in Massachusetts.
So now again, if you're out of state, you're gonna
have to be someone's gonna have to dispose of your
body too. At some point, I'm not good to think
about it, but maybe it is good to think about it.
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Joined the conversation six one seven, two, five, four to
ten thirty six one seven ninety.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
It's night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
All right, let's go to the call. Let's go to
the call six one, seven, four, ten thirty. I we've
never done this subject before. Let me go to Nick
in Plainville. Hey, Nick, welcome back. How are you?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
It is wonderful to be back on America's front poor show.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Are you? I'm doing well. We haven't talked to you
in a in a dog's age, Nick. I know you're welcome.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Things have been quite busy. I have thought about it,
but what's really spurred my mind is I actually think
I'm going to play the young person card here.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Person.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
I think that there is a lack of appetite among
younger people for traditional burial cremation, and I can see
those alternative ideas like being turned into some type of
mineral or a diamond. It's being quite appealing as religion
wings in the idea of you know, the corporeal body
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and the soul that you know, go out of style.
The only thing that remains is sort of the sentimental
attachment to the person that's there. So it wouldn't surprise me.
Right now we're dealing with the the the baby boom
bulge fitting out unfortunately, and the population under is significantly smaller.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I actually am not as concerned with space running out.
I think that they'll figured out either build up or
build honor, like they do in up. I was recently
in Ireland and England and was struck you couldn't turn
your head without running into some type of burial space
or or cemetery. And so I think the fascinating question
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here is that when you lose the religious motivation behind it,
when people are not tied to the idea of keeping
their body here on earth for you know, the rapture
or something more traditional than that, I don't think that
it's it's going to be that uncommon for people to
abandon burial in any form entirely. I'm curious what you
think there.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I think the point you make is a good one.
By the way, you said on the young side, you
please tell me you haven't hit thirty yet.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
No, No, I haven't, I haven't.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
You're fine.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Did you went to law school? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I did.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
I'm just starting to grind in.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
So that's okay. So you're twenty six, yeah, just I
remember when you were, when you were a high school
student calling the show. So that's what what is thrilling
to know that you're still out there, and I appreciate it.
I think you're I mean, there was a period of
time where people were told, Hey, the day will come
and you'll rise from the grave. I think most of
us realize now that when you go into a into
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the grave, that nature is going to take its course.
And obviously those of us who still are religious, and
I don't know if you are or not, I suspect
you probably are. Not. All of us hold on to
that hope that we will meet our predecessors, our family
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on the other side. And there's some interesting books that
have been written about that, and there's a lot of
smart people who who believe that. But whether or not
we would ever again be composed in the earthly form,
I think most of us understand that that it's not likely.
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But I don't think that that means that people are
not religious.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
But yeah, no, I'm with you, Dan.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I am religious myself, and you know, to hold traditional
views of burial in the afterlife and everything. I think
you and I actually agree on that. The thing that's
interesting to me is that I can think that's the
case with the majority of people, at least Gen X
and younger. Yep, there might be the hope that that's
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the case, But I don't know when you look at
the other big pressure here is cost, right, so we're
worried about space filling up, but also the cost for funerals,
the costs for burial, for caskets, et cetera. Is just
has grown exponentially in the past two or three decades.
And you know, as younger generations feel the squeeze of
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economic pressures, I mean, you decouple the meaning of burial.
It wouldn't surprise me if people just say, why am
I spending money on something that's not going to appease
anyone except for some Again, what will.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Happen is that that younger generation will grow older, they
will become a little more comfortable financially and people, I think.
But I mentioned this earlier. I don't know if you
saw the interview that was done with one of the
victims of the school shooting in Parkland, Florida about I
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think that was nineteen twenty seventeen, so it's not quite
ten years ago, and they basically were able to recreate
the image through pictures and videotape of one of the victims.
Who's a lot right, yeah. Yeah. And Jim Acosta, you know,
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the former CNN reporter, Now I think kind of disgraced.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Oh I thought you were a big fan dad.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah, we didn't know how to
behave himself in the White House, but that's neither heard of.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
There.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
He did the interview with this kid who you know,
it was an artificial intelligence interview and the young man
was answering questions, you know, which the parents went along with,
which is fine, okay. I know that the CBS did
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a thing with Leslie Stall several years ago where they
interviewed Holocaust survivors at length, and then students could go
and in effect talk to a Holocaust survivor about the Holocaust,
even though that survivor had deceased. I was also thinking that,
and I've never seen this, but people could do their
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own eulogies. They could do their own eulogies on videotape
fifteen years ago. And I'm waiting for going to to
some service. And I don't suspect it would be in
a church, but some service. Nick, have you ever been
to a service where people delivered their own eulogy five
years before they passed.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
I can't say I have. I think I would probably
stand up and leave for get the HEB gbs in
that case.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
But can you imagine if seriously, can you imagine if
you were at an awake or a funeral and someone said,
you know, our dear friend before he passed a couple
of years ago. We know that you know he suffered,
you know, greatly in his last year of life, but
he left us a videotape in which he wanted to
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express his appreciation for the time that he shared. It
could be done in a very very good way.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
And I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, And the person could come on and say thank
you all for being here today. I can't tell you
how much I wish I could be with you in person,
but there could be some humor. I mean, I think
that we're that that nothing is sacred anymore.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
You know, I was thinking to one final point here.
I don't want to hug up the time, but you know,
do you remember when Joni Earnst, the Senator from Iowa,
was pressed by constituents at a town hall recently, I
think a few months ago about I think it was
medicaid or medicare cuts that were proposed in the One
Big Beautiful Bill Act. And she responded back in a
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flip remark. But in reality, I think it did actually
have some deeper meaning that we're wrestling with We're all
going to die at some point, and there's also the resurgence.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
You know.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Of course this has always existed in some forms about history,
but there's.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Now a.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Group of I would say elites that are really focused
on the idea of eternal preservation, like neuralink from Elon
Musk for example. There's the people who are obsessed with
essentially blood opening with I forget the guy's name, but
there's a famous guy now who uses his own son's
plasma in an attempt to extend his own vitality, and
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that is.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
That Ted Williams's head is still like thinking that that
that place in Arizona.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Good point.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
I'm literally looking at his picture right now, and that's
a good reminder. Yeah, you never know, we could come
back and hit four hundred again.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, you know, I mean, I'm hoping that Roman Anthony
is the reincarnation of Ted Williams. But but you know, they.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Said that about Juan Soto too.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, I think Juan Soto has had a couple of
tough seasons. But Anthony looks like the real deal. He
kind of looks like Williams too, long, lanky guy with
a great deal of you never know, Williams spent a
lot of time in Florida. This kid's from Florida. Hey, Nick,
thrill to talk to you, man, Uh, just give me
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in thirty seconds. Are you out practicing at this point?
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Oh yeah, yeh yep.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
And are you specializing any Are you a general practitioner?
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
I'll talk to you off air about that, Dan for this.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Give me a call, okay, and I would Uh, I'd
love to catch up with you. You know, you you're
somebody who I long time ago knew was going to
do very well in this in this world.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
And I just really believe that.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
So you're and one one one thing here. I have
to give a shout out to Gary Tangway for his
film appearances. They make the Sports up morning show every
single time that he comes on, and it's such a
hoot when Gary's on. He was very little tolerance for it.
And I'm glad that night Side is doing well with you.
They're still too.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
So yeah, well, he and I different style, that's all
from what I understand. And Uh, I will be away
for a couple of weeks and Bradley j Is sitting
in for the next for the next two weeks. So
I'm happy that I can take kiss this this doing
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four hours, five nights a week, it's not the easiest
job in the world. And also to try to come
up with story ideas that are different and different takes,
UH is also challenging to be really honest with you.
And it's been a real fun ride and you've been
along most of the way, UH. And and I thank
you for for hooking back up with us here tonight.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Thanks buddy, Dan, appreciate it. Have a good one.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
You bet you all right? Nick from Plainfield, take a break.
Here's the news six one seven, six one, seven ninety.
Have you thought about your own burial and have you
figured out what it's going to be? What is what
is your choice? There are some real issues that I
think have arisen in recent years in terms of space capacity.
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At the same time, they're up hearts of this country.
When you fly over there's you could have cemeteries, and
that you might not be five miles from your from
your family, but you could be buried in lots of
places and and have some beautiful vistas when you think
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about it, Wyoming, North Dakota, Montana, a lot of space
in this country. Were back on Nightside after this.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
It's night Side.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Okay, back to the phones we go. We're gonna go
to dot Medford Dot. You're gonna be long. You're gonna
be around for a long time. You shouldn't gonna be
given to think about this. Well now, but you know
when you're ninety until October?
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Come on, don't I know well that I am.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
No, You're you're on the right side. But your dot,
you're on the right side of nineties.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
I'm on the right side of a hundred. But anyway,
this is such a good subject. When my youngest son
died he was twenty five, and after that I made
arrangements that I was going to be cremated and three
bags for each kid and husbands. So then my oldest
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son died when he was forty eight, and so you know,
I'm glad I made those arrangements because I'm just going
to be cremated and the bags they're each going to
go to each grave and that's it.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
So are you're going to take part your ashes? Yeah,
we'll be interred with your two sons and your husband.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Yep, yep. And it's a perfect way to do it.
It's perfect. But I did go to a spiritualist funeral
one day. Really this guy, yes, this Gale I knew
in Medford. She we went into the Esquadrille into a
private room, and whenever we all went in for dinner,
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all of a sudden she greeted us Hello, I'm so
glad you're here, and the whole thing. She went on
and on about her life. And then when after we
had dinner and we had a drink and everything, she
said goodbye to us and wished us well. All on tape.
It was so interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Wait, wait, so this was somebody who had passed.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Yeah, oh, yeah, she died.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
She had died. She had How long before the event
had she passed? Oh?
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Like she she died the week before, and she had
already had all this arranged for when she died. It
was all going to play out right.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Okay, So was this a friend of yours?
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (25:56):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Okay. So when you got there, did you realize this
was sort of awake or something?
Speaker 7 (26:05):
Well?
Speaker 6 (26:05):
I knew it was like a memorial, Yeah, okay, yeah,
but I didn't know she was going to be greeting
us and talking to us and saying goodbye of the
whole bit. It was very hot.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Didn't she introduce that dot? Did they say, did someone
you know take control of this?
Speaker 8 (26:23):
No?
Speaker 6 (26:24):
No, she was in full control. She was in full control.
We came in, we audited our drinks, and then.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
She greeted us on a video screen.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
No, not video, just on a tape, just.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
And audio tape.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I'll tell you, Dan, it was very
very interesting. I mean a lot of us, a lot
of people were sort of in shock.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
How long did she speak for? If I could ask?
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Oh, well, she spoke for probably fifteen minutes of the
beginning and then we ate our dinner, and then she
spoke for ten or fifteen minutes say goodbye to us.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
So she were ended it? Okay, okay? And then how
many of her friends were with you at this event? Oh?
Speaker 6 (27:11):
There were probably fifty of us.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
And none of you had any idea.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
Wait, no, we had no idea she was going to
do this. No, now, let.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Me ask you this. Here's my question. If she had
had the capacity or the ability to do a videotape
you know, a year you know, did she die.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
Suddenly over No, she was sick.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
She was sick.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
So if before you know, she really got sick and
she had you know, her wits about her, and she
had sat in front of a camera and did you
know her greeting and then her her her so long
or whatever. Yeah, Woul did that freak you out even
more than it didn't?
Speaker 6 (27:55):
It actually did not freak me out. It didn't freak
me out. I thought it was fantastic, But I mean,
the thing was, she was such in command of herself
and and knew what she wanted to do. But I
think it was better on just a tape. You didn't
have to see her picture because you knew what she
looked like, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Someday you'll end up going to awake and they'll they'll say, well,
we have a special presentation.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Nobody said that. No, nobody said it. All of a sudden,
she just brist in. Nobody introduced.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Somebody had to cue it to hit the tape. I
mean there had to be somebody.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Oh yeah, she had somebody to do it. But it
was and there was no religious stuff involved, just her,
the dinner, the drinks, and it was very, very interesting.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I would have had a couple of drinks under those
heyd Thanks, we love you. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Okay, well, I'll tell you it's a great subject. Good,
good day.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I let me go next to Tulia. Tulia who is
in Newton. Tulia, welcome, How are you?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Hi?
Speaker 8 (29:10):
Dan?
Speaker 7 (29:10):
Wow, this is my first time being ever on the radio.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
How excited?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Well, welcome. I think you had the third or fourth
first time called Oh my goodness, I am thrilled. The
other fourth first time callege tonight, go right ahead?
Speaker 7 (29:23):
Wow, anyway, great subject again. I'm I'm on the young side,
but I do want to tell everyone not to be
afraid to decide or to buy something. I bought two
lots after losing multiple people in my family. We end
up my siblings bought all different lots right next to
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each other, and it was like three thousand dollars and
wasn't expensive. I didn't think it was. And I just
think of it as of an investment, not an investment,
but more of a real estate. And it goes into
your estate anyways, and people are like, what are we
going to do with it? Well, it's easier for the
family to have that in their portfolio.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Per se.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
If you buying properties and you're renting, and you're doing
all sorts of things, and you're paying insurance, you're paying
all these other things, why not buy a piece of land. Basically,
That's how I looked at it, and the good thing
about it, and I didn't know about this. I went
in to the funeral cemetery and I was looking for
a place because my husband wants to be cremated and
(30:30):
I wanted to be not cremated. And so the gentleman says,
why are you buying two separate you know, lots, like
one for cremating and one for the regular casket. And
he goes, you know, you can put the floor cremation
in one spot and I said, you can. He goes
you can actually put one casket and two cremation and
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I was like, perfect, I'm buying it and enough to
go any further. It was great news, great, And I
bought the next one next to me. My sister's bought
the other one, My brother bought the other one, So
like six in a row. I come from ten brothers
and sisters. And it's just nice to just finish something.
Whether they use it or not, is it's okay if
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they don't use it, you know, at least hulia.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
The value of you know, resting places, you know, grave,
grave lots, whatever you want to call them, is only
going to go up, okay. And if you don't use,
if your family doesn't use all of them, someone's going
to have a windfall. It's like the people who buy
parking spaces downtown, you know they I remember when when
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they were and someone said, imagine I bought that parking space.
It's it's just a parking space for fifty thousand dollars.
Now the thing's worth a half a million dollars. There
will be a there is a shortage of plots, cemetery plots.
You've made a great investment I'm telling you if you
use mom.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
My mom used to say. My dad said, if you're
gonna work all your life and you don't have money
to bury yourself and you're gonna leave it to someone
else to pay for your burial, what have you done?
So to me? I always felt, and these were immigrant
families that came from Italy, had nothing but their Their
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whole thing was, if you're gonna work and you can't
bury yourself, well, what have you accomplished me?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I felt like Tulia, this was a great first time call.
I took you just before my break, so I got
a scoop it do you favor?
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Okay, you said you're on.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
The younger side. How old are you?
Speaker 7 (32:42):
If I could ask Emily, I'll say it this way.
I'm twenty seven with thirty years experience.
Speaker 9 (32:49):
You add that up.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I can figure that one out. I can figure that
one outf do me a favor. Please keep listening to
Night's Eye and call more off. I loved your call.
Thank and I loved your voice. Thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Great great radio debut, great radio debut, Thank you, good night. Thanks.
We're going to get everybody in. I promise we got
Cheryl's next. We got Margie and the Caskles, we got
Cheryl and Arlington, Bill and Virginia, and the calls are
coming in. This has been a really a show that
exceeded my expectations. I'm I'm very happy. I hope you
are as well coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w BZ
Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Spent a busy night. We have full callers. I would
love to give everybody about a minute and a half
to two minutes here. I know you've been waiting in
some cases quite long. Let's see what we can do.
Cheryl and Arlington. Cheryl, thanks for calling in. You're next
on Nightside.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
Oh hi, Dan, it's a great topic.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (33:50):
So I'm going to be cremated. And when my mom
we have all talked about it, and she wanted to
be cremated, so I knew what her plans were. My
dad we never talked about it, but when he passed,
I asked my uncle, you know what to do because
it's a hard decision to make, you know, And so
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my uncle said. They talked about it a lot, and
it didn't My dad always said it didn't matter so
he was cremated and he was buried in Medfield. And
so when my mom's time came, I said to her, well,
you know, daddy has a place and she said right
away because they would divorce since I was six months old.
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She goes, I don't want to be next to him.
I said to her, well, I was thinking, mom, that
I could go in the middle and that you know,
you could be one on each side. And she says, oh,
that sounds really nice. Okay, that's good.
Speaker 9 (34:49):
So that's what happened.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Wow, So your dad is in a plot, but with.
Speaker 8 (34:58):
His the memorial garden in the Oak Grove Cemetery in Medford,
and my mom is there. But it's really funny. So
when we were putting my mom's ashes in the ground,
the undertaker they pulled back the little grass and they
had done the hole right next to my dad. I said, oh, no, no, no,
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that's my spot.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
You need to move it over. We paid him a
few bucks and you got the shovel. So instead of crying,
we were laughing.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Well you so, hopefully in the next world, your mom
and dad will reconcile and you'll all be well.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
I'm sure they have.
Speaker 9 (35:45):
I'm sure they have.
Speaker 8 (35:48):
I believe in all that.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
You hit a very nice note on a tough subject,
and thanks so much for calling in. I hope you'll
continue to listen and continue to see you.
Speaker 8 (35:56):
Welcome.
Speaker 9 (35:57):
I do have a great vacation.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Thanks all right, let me keep her only he going
to go to Bill and Virginia billing need room for
you and one more go ahead, Bill.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Hey Dan, I'm a fan and I read the Globe
every day in Harald. But but your topic, my wife
and I both were We've met with the funeral director.
We bought plots which we're trying to we're going to
end up selling because I found out I can go
in the Virginia State Military uh cemetery since I served
seven years in the National Guard. And my wife has
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her family has already has plots. So like my wife said,
we're going to end up at the same place anyway,
we hope, uh part of the problem, not the problem.
But I'm going to sell the two lots that we
have plots and uh. But but the church, the Catholic Church,
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you know, they don't want long eulogies. And and I
met with a lady the other day and she said, well,
I said, I'd like to be cremated, and she said, well,
we'd like you here. I said, I'd like to be
here too, but uh anyway, she said, you can rent
a casket. So I'm calling the uh undertaker tomorrow and
see how much you cost to rent a casket.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
So you would you would be cremated and your remains
would be in the casket.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
And then no, no, she said, we want a body
for the visitation and the the wake and all that.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
That's pretty yeah, so they would allow you to be cremated.
They would They were okay with you being cremated after
the wake and after.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
The funeral, yes, yep, and even offer offer me a
luncheon and I said, well, I said, you know I
can't make that, but you know, wouldn't mind me. Yeah,
they they want a body at the at the service.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Yeah, at the mass.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
All right, Bill, I got to get one more in
and I'm a little clamped on time, but you're a
regular caller, please call back many times, and I oh
you a little bit of time here.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Okay, Okay, Dan, have a good vacation too.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
YouTube buddy will talk soon. Okay, thanks very much, sir.
I'm not going until next week CG CG and Cambridge CG.
Go right ahead. We got about a minute. I'm sorry
you late. You go right ahead.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Well, the woman who was fifty seven years old, she
had the right idea. About eight years ago, my wife
and I decided we'd buy a couple of plots, and
any of our children that want of you buried there
will have plenty of room, and it's all fought and
paid for.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's smart. And I also
think that if your grandchildren, you know, if for whatever
reason they're not utilized, those plots are only going to
increase in value. I'm serious when I.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Say that I would give them to homeless bets or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Well that's the possibility too. You know you could do that.
That's not your choice. But what I'm saying is it's
the value is not going to go down because the
scarcity of plots will can you sadly, but you know
there's too many people looking to get into these plots.
It's as simple as that. Ceej Cig you haven't called
(39:08):
in a long time. Call back and I owe you
more time.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Thank you so much, no problems, thank you, enjoy your vagation.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Bye, Thanks much, I'm not until Monday. I don't want
anybody wish to be vacation until Friday. Done for the night,
Rob Brooks, you did a great job tonight. Great job.
Thank you very much. Marita. Thank you wherever you are.
You're probably snoozing right now. Talk to you tomorrow morning.
Want to remind all of you on dogs, all cats,
all pets go to heaven. That's when my pal Charlie Rays,
who passed fifteen years ago in Febuary. That's why your
(39:36):
pets are past. They loved you and you love them.
I do believe you'll see them again. Hope to see
you again morning or night's out. Have a great Thursday, everybody.
I will be on Facebook nights. I with Dan Ray
in a couple of minutes, going to be quick. We'll
see you there. See you tomorrow night. Have a great Thursday.
Good night,
It's Nights with Dan Ray.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm telling you Boxton's Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Before we changed topics here in the eleven o'clock hour,
we did have one caller who took advantage of the
iHeartRadio app to amend something that he said. I'm not
sure which call of this was, but I want to
give him an opportunity to make the point that he
apparently was unable to make during our conversation. I played
(00:29):
Rob Dan.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Maybe I didn't make it clear, but when I registered
my three speed moped, I indeed had to buy insurance.
It was I think it's one hundred and twenty five
dollars a year. Thanks Bye.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
That might have been Larry from Needham. I'm trying to
remember the call, but Larry from Needham took advantage of
the iHeartRadio app our talkback feature promo, and he I
want to remind all of you that this is a
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by simply utilizing the talkback feature of the iHeart Radio app.
First of all, you got to pull the radio app down,
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Make sure you download and have that free iHeartRadio app
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Radio for that matter, anytime during the day, you can
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(01:35):
It could be critical, it can be complimentary. Whichever you want,
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that simple. Once again, hit the red microphone button in
the top right corner of the app well listening to
Nightside and send us your audio message. And again it's
just another way that you can be in contact with
us and to all the callers, whether you agreed with
me or not, last hour, we had some fun. I
(01:58):
will certainly also thank Dave for p for being a
good sport. He and I see the world a little
bit differently, and it was a a good fun conversation
in my opinion, I hope he feels the same way.
Here's what we want to do now. I want to
change topics. And we mentioned this earlier tonight, but here's
some statistics that I came across which I thought was
(02:20):
pretty which are pretty interesting. There's almost eight billion people
living in the world today. I think most of us
are familiar with that figure. For a long time, it's
been seven billion, and it keeps creeping up. Who wants
to take a guest, and I'm not going to ask
for phone calls in this, but take a guess as
to how many people have lived the estimate as to
(02:42):
how many people have lived in the history of the world,
going back to the beginning of time. I'll give you
a moment to think of the number. It's eight billion
today who are living today. One hundred years from now,
those eight billion, of which you and I are include,
will probably have passed on. Apparently they believe that it's
(03:04):
been about one hundred and seven billion people who have
at one point lived on earth. Now, all of those people,
if we take the one hundred and seven and we
subtract eight, that means ninety nine billion have come and gone.
They buried in some form of fashion. Maybe some of
(03:26):
them were buried in King Tut's tomb. I guess King
Tut was buried in King tuts tom. But the fact
that the matter is is probably ninety nine billion people
who have been buried. We're running out of space, you know,
burying people. If you have driven by a cemetery recently,
(03:47):
they're pretty full. Now. I know there's lots of space
in the world, but people like to have cemeteries close
by so they can visit their their family members, and
there's a whole bunch of things going on. Cremation is
up in the US, I guess in twenty twenty one,
(04:07):
fifty seven percent a little over fifty seven percent of
the people who died were cremated. In Canada, it was
almost seventy five percent. They're a little bit more progressive.
So my first question tonight is have you thought about
I mean, no one gets out of here alive. We
have to understand that. Oh, those of us who happened
(04:30):
to be Christian believed there was one guy named Jesus
who rose from the dead. But everybody else when it's time,
it's time. Okay, sad but true. And you try to
leave a good reputation, to try to leave a legacy,
You try to leave some kindness and all of that,
but at some point everybody's got to check out. So
(04:53):
the question is, as time goes on, where are we
going to bury people and how we're going to bury people.
There are real problems in some cities around the world.
In London, for example, they're just running on a room.
I mean it's a small island nation when you think
(05:14):
about it, and they have a lot of people and
they have they don't have anywhere else to put them.
There are different ways that people can be interred. I
have a fellow who I know doubted the KP. He
does burials at sea. That's becoming more popular. Do you
(05:40):
want to take a guess as to how many people
worldwide die every day in this world? You can probably
figure it out a little bit. I guess the calculation
is one hundred and seventy thousand people. That's enough to
fill I guess fourth Benway Parks, just to put it
(06:01):
in maybe three Gillette stadiums. Every day people come and
people go, and all of us are in that parade
and we don't know when the parade ends. People now
are saying, just as they said last hour, we were
(06:21):
talking about carbon dioxide and all of that, that cremation
which if it happens to be your choice, you know,
people get their ashes scattered. Some people religiously don't want that.
There was a woman in our our Nightside pregained this afternoon,
(06:45):
who was saying that she's fearful of cremation in case
she's still alive. Well, I guess that's that's her apprehension.
The fact of the matter is people get cremated and
they have their ashes spread in various points. I guess
that's going to take some of the pressure off cemeteries.
(07:10):
But cemeteries are filling up. Arlington National Cemetery is filling up,
and at some point in time, as I understand it,
Arlington National Cemetery is going to basically say that the
only people who can be buried there would be people
killed in action, and there aren't many in recent years.
(07:33):
I mean, sadly there have been some, but in World
War Two, in Korea and Vietnam you had thousands upon thousands.
So these are issues you got to think about. And
I don't know, I would love to hear from as
many of you as possible. It's not a subject that
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most people enjoy talking about, but it's a subjec that
you need to at least contemplate. And the fact of
the matter is that the cemeteries are filling up, and
the traditional burial that most of us who are adults
(08:18):
have talked about creation obviously is becoming more popular. Burial
at sea. I read one article that said that people
can be reduced to a diamond, like you know how
a diamond, So theoretically you could you could leave yourself
as a diamond. I guess I don't know how much
(08:38):
that costs, but there are costs associated with everything. And
in some places they're now saying that what they need
to do is reuse graves. So if somebody has been
very let's say for one hundred or more years or
one hundred and fifty years, that they then would open
(08:59):
up the grave and put someone else in there. It's
there's a lot of ideas here. I'd love to know.
Have you thought about it? And if you have, great,
If you haven't, tell me, that's okay. And if you
have thought about it, what have you decided. We talked
last night briefly about with artificial intelligence and videotape. Pretty
(09:26):
soon you're going to go to you're gonna go to
a funeral and you are awake and you're going to
listen to the person deliver their own eulogy. That'll be
one of those Well, thank you all for coming today. Obviously,
I passed away a few days ago, and I prepared
my eulogy in anticipation of this event, and I just
(09:47):
want to say it was a great ride and people
could talk. Oh you, I'm telling you. Things are changing
and we got to be prepared for them. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Have you contemplated what you would like to happen once
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you've passed? Are you leaving that to your family to decide?
I think you can do that. You have to think
about it as difficult and as as tough as it is.
Join the conversation. I got wide open lines six months,
seven two, five, four ten thirty six seven nine, three
one ten thirty. I thought there would be more interest
(10:31):
in this topic, frankly showing you how much I know
than our earlier topic, motorized vehicles. Join the conversation. Light
those lines up. I'm here toll midnight. I hope you
are too. I don't think we've actually had an out
of state caller tonight. I'll have to double check on that,
because the reason I believe that and I am correct
(10:52):
on that, no out of state callers. We were talking
about laws for scooters and motor rice bicycles in Massachusetts.
So now again, if you're out of state, you're gonna
have to be someone's gonna have to dispose of your
body too. At some point, I'm not good to think
about it, but maybe it is good to think about it.
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Joined the conversation six one seven, two, five, four to
ten thirty six one seven ninety.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
It's night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
All right, let's go to the call. Let's go to
the call six one, seven, four, ten thirty. I we've
never done this subject before. Let me go to Nick
in Plainville. Hey, Nick, welcome back. How are you?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
It is wonderful to be back on America's front poor show.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Are you? I'm doing well. We haven't talked to you
in a in a dog's age, Nick. I know you're welcome.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Things have been quite busy. I have thought about it,
but what's really spurred my mind is I actually think
I'm going to play the young person card here.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Person.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
I think that there is a lack of appetite among
younger people for traditional burial cremation, and I can see
those alternative ideas like being turned into some type of
mineral or a diamond. It's being quite appealing as religion
wings in the idea of you know, the corporeal body
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and the soul that you know, go out of style.
The only thing that remains is sort of the sentimental
attachment to the person that's there. So it wouldn't surprise me.
Right now we're dealing with the the the baby boom
bulge fitting out unfortunately, and the population under is significantly smaller.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I actually am not as concerned with space running out.
I think that they'll figured out either build up or
build honor, like they do in up. I was recently
in Ireland and England and was struck you couldn't turn
your head without running into some type of burial space
or or cemetery. And so I think the fascinating question
(13:12):
here is that when you lose the religious motivation behind it,
when people are not tied to the idea of keeping
their body here on earth for you know, the rapture
or something more traditional than that, I don't think that
it's it's going to be that uncommon for people to
abandon burial in any form entirely. I'm curious what you
think there.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I think the point you make is a good one.
By the way, you said on the young side, you
please tell me you haven't hit thirty yet.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
No, No, I haven't, I haven't.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
You're fine.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Did you went to law school? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I did.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
I'm just starting to grind in.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
So that's okay. So you're twenty six, yeah, just I
remember when you were, when you were a high school
student calling the show. So that's what what is thrilling
to know that you're still out there, and I appreciate it.
I think you're I mean, there was a period of
time where people were told, Hey, the day will come
and you'll rise from the grave. I think most of
us realize now that when you go into a into
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the grave, that nature is going to take its course.
And obviously those of us who still are religious, and
I don't know if you are or not, I suspect
you probably are. Not. All of us hold on to
that hope that we will meet our predecessors, our family
(14:33):
on the other side. And there's some interesting books that
have been written about that, and there's a lot of
smart people who who believe that. But whether or not
we would ever again be composed in the earthly form,
I think most of us understand that that it's not likely.
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But I don't think that that means that people are
not religious.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
But yeah, no, I'm with you, Dan.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I am religious myself, and you know, to hold traditional
views of burial in the afterlife and everything. I think
you and I actually agree on that. The thing that's
interesting to me is that I can think that's the
case with the majority of people, at least Gen X
and younger. Yep, there might be the hope that that's
(15:23):
the case, But I don't know when you look at
the other big pressure here is cost, right, so we're
worried about space filling up, but also the cost for funerals,
the costs for burial, for caskets, et cetera. Is just
has grown exponentially in the past two or three decades.
And you know, as younger generations feel the squeeze of
(15:46):
economic pressures, I mean, you decouple the meaning of burial.
It wouldn't surprise me if people just say, why am
I spending money on something that's not going to appease
anyone except for some Again, what will.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Happen is that that younger generation will grow older, they
will become a little more comfortable financially and people, I think.
But I mentioned this earlier. I don't know if you
saw the interview that was done with one of the
victims of the school shooting in Parkland, Florida about I
(16:25):
think that was nineteen twenty seventeen, so it's not quite
ten years ago, and they basically were able to recreate
the image through pictures and videotape of one of the victims.
Who's a lot right, yeah. Yeah. And Jim Acosta, you know,
(16:47):
the former CNN reporter, Now I think kind of disgraced.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Oh I thought you were a big fan dad.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah, we didn't know how to
behave himself in the White House, but that's neither heard of.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
There.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
He did the interview with this kid who you know,
it was an artificial intelligence interview and the young man
was answering questions, you know, which the parents went along with,
which is fine, okay. I know that the CBS did
(17:24):
a thing with Leslie Stall several years ago where they
interviewed Holocaust survivors at length, and then students could go
and in effect talk to a Holocaust survivor about the Holocaust,
even though that survivor had deceased. I was also thinking that,
and I've never seen this, but people could do their
(17:45):
own eulogies. They could do their own eulogies on videotape
fifteen years ago. And I'm waiting for going to to
some service. And I don't suspect it would be in
a church, but some service. Nick, have you ever been
to a service where people delivered their own eulogy five
years before they passed.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
I can't say I have. I think I would probably
stand up and leave for get the HEB gbs in
that case.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
But can you imagine if seriously, can you imagine if
you were at an awake or a funeral and someone said,
you know, our dear friend before he passed a couple
of years ago. We know that you know he suffered,
you know, greatly in his last year of life, but
he left us a videotape in which he wanted to
(18:33):
express his appreciation for the time that he shared. It
could be done in a very very good way.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
And I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, And the person could come on and say thank
you all for being here today. I can't tell you
how much I wish I could be with you in person,
but there could be some humor. I mean, I think
that we're that that nothing is sacred anymore.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
You know, I was thinking to one final point here.
I don't want to hug up the time, but you know,
do you remember when Joni Earnst, the Senator from Iowa,
was pressed by constituents at a town hall recently, I
think a few months ago about I think it was
medicaid or medicare cuts that were proposed in the One
Big Beautiful Bill Act. And she responded back in a
(19:26):
flip remark. But in reality, I think it did actually
have some deeper meaning that we're wrestling with We're all
going to die at some point, and there's also the resurgence.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
You know.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Of course this has always existed in some forms about history,
but there's.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Now a.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Group of I would say elites that are really focused
on the idea of eternal preservation, like neuralink from Elon
Musk for example. There's the people who are obsessed with
essentially blood opening with I forget the guy's name, but
there's a famous guy now who uses his own son's
plasma in an attempt to extend his own vitality, and
(20:10):
that is.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
That Ted Williams's head is still like thinking that that
that place in Arizona.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Good point.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
I'm literally looking at his picture right now, and that's
a good reminder. Yeah, you never know, we could come
back and hit four hundred again.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, you know, I mean, I'm hoping that Roman Anthony
is the reincarnation of Ted Williams. But but you know, they.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Said that about Juan Soto too.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, I think Juan Soto has had a couple of
tough seasons. But Anthony looks like the real deal. He
kind of looks like Williams too, long, lanky guy with
a great deal of you never know, Williams spent a
lot of time in Florida. This kid's from Florida. Hey, Nick,
thrill to talk to you, man, Uh, just give me
(20:57):
in thirty seconds. Are you out practicing at this point?
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Oh yeah, yeh yep.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
And are you specializing any Are you a general practitioner?
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
I'll talk to you off air about that, Dan for this.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Give me a call, okay, and I would Uh, I'd
love to catch up with you. You know, you you're
somebody who I long time ago knew was going to
do very well in this in this world.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
And I just really believe that.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
So you're and one one one thing here. I have
to give a shout out to Gary Tangway for his
film appearances. They make the Sports up morning show every
single time that he comes on, and it's such a
hoot when Gary's on. He was very little tolerance for it.
And I'm glad that night Side is doing well with you.
They're still too.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
So yeah, well, he and I different style, that's all
from what I understand. And Uh, I will be away
for a couple of weeks and Bradley j Is sitting
in for the next for the next two weeks. So
I'm happy that I can take kiss this this doing
(22:08):
four hours, five nights a week, it's not the easiest
job in the world. And also to try to come
up with story ideas that are different and different takes,
UH is also challenging to be really honest with you.
And it's been a real fun ride and you've been
along most of the way, UH. And and I thank
you for for hooking back up with us here tonight.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Thanks buddy, Dan, appreciate it. Have a good one.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
You bet you all right? Nick from Plainfield, take a break.
Here's the news six one seven, six one, seven ninety.
Have you thought about your own burial and have you
figured out what it's going to be? What is what
is your choice? There are some real issues that I
think have arisen in recent years in terms of space capacity.
(22:58):
At the same time, they're up hearts of this country.
When you fly over there's you could have cemeteries, and
that you might not be five miles from your from
your family, but you could be buried in lots of
places and and have some beautiful vistas when you think
(23:19):
about it, Wyoming, North Dakota, Montana, a lot of space
in this country. Were back on Nightside after this.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
It's night Side.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Okay, back to the phones we go. We're gonna go
to dot Medford Dot. You're gonna be long. You're gonna
be around for a long time. You shouldn't gonna be
given to think about this. Well now, but you know
when you're ninety until October?
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Come on, don't I know well that I am.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
No, You're you're on the right side. But your dot,
you're on the right side of nineties.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
I'm on the right side of a hundred. But anyway,
this is such a good subject. When my youngest son
died he was twenty five, and after that I made
arrangements that I was going to be cremated and three
bags for each kid and husbands. So then my oldest
(24:25):
son died when he was forty eight, and so you know,
I'm glad I made those arrangements because I'm just going
to be cremated and the bags they're each going to
go to each grave and that's it.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
So are you're going to take part your ashes? Yeah,
we'll be interred with your two sons and your husband.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Yep, yep. And it's a perfect way to do it.
It's perfect. But I did go to a spiritualist funeral
one day. Really this guy, yes, this Gale I knew
in Medford. She we went into the Esquadrille into a
private room, and whenever we all went in for dinner,
(25:07):
all of a sudden she greeted us Hello, I'm so
glad you're here, and the whole thing. She went on
and on about her life. And then when after we
had dinner and we had a drink and everything, she
said goodbye to us and wished us well. All on tape.
It was so interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Wait, wait, so this was somebody who had passed.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Yeah, oh, yeah, she died.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
She had died. She had How long before the event
had she passed? Oh?
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Like she she died the week before, and she had
already had all this arranged for when she died. It
was all going to play out right.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Okay, So was this a friend of yours?
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (25:56):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Okay. So when you got there, did you realize this
was sort of awake or something?
Speaker 7 (26:05):
Well?
Speaker 6 (26:05):
I knew it was like a memorial, Yeah, okay, yeah,
but I didn't know she was going to be greeting
us and talking to us and saying goodbye of the
whole bit. It was very hot.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Didn't she introduce that dot? Did they say, did someone
you know take control of this?
Speaker 8 (26:23):
No?
Speaker 6 (26:24):
No, she was in full control. She was in full control.
We came in, we audited our drinks, and then.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
She greeted us on a video screen.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
No, not video, just on a tape, just.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
And audio tape.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I'll tell you, Dan, it was very
very interesting. I mean a lot of us, a lot
of people were sort of in shock.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
How long did she speak for? If I could ask?
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Oh, well, she spoke for probably fifteen minutes of the
beginning and then we ate our dinner, and then she
spoke for ten or fifteen minutes say goodbye to us.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
So she were ended it? Okay, okay? And then how
many of her friends were with you at this event? Oh?
Speaker 6 (27:11):
There were probably fifty of us.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
And none of you had any idea.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
Wait, no, we had no idea she was going to
do this. No, now, let.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Me ask you this. Here's my question. If she had
had the capacity or the ability to do a videotape
you know, a year you know, did she die.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
Suddenly over No, she was sick.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
She was sick.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
So if before you know, she really got sick and
she had you know, her wits about her, and she
had sat in front of a camera and did you
know her greeting and then her her her so long
or whatever. Yeah, Woul did that freak you out even
more than it didn't?
Speaker 6 (27:55):
It actually did not freak me out. It didn't freak
me out. I thought it was fantastic, But I mean,
the thing was, she was such in command of herself
and and knew what she wanted to do. But I
think it was better on just a tape. You didn't
have to see her picture because you knew what she
looked like, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Someday you'll end up going to awake and they'll they'll say, well,
we have a special presentation.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Nobody said that. No, nobody said it. All of a sudden,
she just brist in. Nobody introduced.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Somebody had to cue it to hit the tape. I
mean there had to be somebody.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Oh yeah, she had somebody to do it. But it
was and there was no religious stuff involved, just her,
the dinner, the drinks, and it was very, very interesting.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I would have had a couple of drinks under those
heyd Thanks, we love you. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Okay, well, I'll tell you it's a great subject. Good,
good day.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I let me go next to Tulia. Tulia who is
in Newton. Tulia, welcome, How are you?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Hi?
Speaker 8 (29:10):
Dan?
Speaker 7 (29:10):
Wow, this is my first time being ever on the radio.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
How excited?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Well, welcome. I think you had the third or fourth
first time called Oh my goodness, I am thrilled. The
other fourth first time callege tonight, go right ahead?
Speaker 7 (29:23):
Wow, anyway, great subject again. I'm I'm on the young side,
but I do want to tell everyone not to be
afraid to decide or to buy something. I bought two
lots after losing multiple people in my family. We end
up my siblings bought all different lots right next to
(29:44):
each other, and it was like three thousand dollars and
wasn't expensive. I didn't think it was. And I just
think of it as of an investment, not an investment,
but more of a real estate. And it goes into
your estate anyways, and people are like, what are we
going to do with it? Well, it's easier for the
family to have that in their portfolio.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Per se.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
If you buying properties and you're renting, and you're doing
all sorts of things, and you're paying insurance, you're paying
all these other things, why not buy a piece of land. Basically,
That's how I looked at it, and the good thing
about it, and I didn't know about this. I went
in to the funeral cemetery and I was looking for
a place because my husband wants to be cremated and
(30:30):
I wanted to be not cremated. And so the gentleman says,
why are you buying two separate you know, lots, like
one for cremating and one for the regular casket. And
he goes, you know, you can put the floor cremation
in one spot and I said, you can. He goes
you can actually put one casket and two cremation and
(30:54):
I was like, perfect, I'm buying it and enough to
go any further. It was great news, great, And I
bought the next one next to me. My sister's bought
the other one, My brother bought the other one, So
like six in a row. I come from ten brothers
and sisters. And it's just nice to just finish something.
Whether they use it or not, is it's okay if
(31:16):
they don't use it, you know, at least hulia.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
The value of you know, resting places, you know, grave,
grave lots, whatever you want to call them, is only
going to go up, okay. And if you don't use,
if your family doesn't use all of them, someone's going
to have a windfall. It's like the people who buy
parking spaces downtown, you know they I remember when when
(31:43):
they were and someone said, imagine I bought that parking space.
It's it's just a parking space for fifty thousand dollars.
Now the thing's worth a half a million dollars. There
will be a there is a shortage of plots, cemetery plots.
You've made a great investment I'm telling you if you
use mom.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
My mom used to say. My dad said, if you're
gonna work all your life and you don't have money
to bury yourself and you're gonna leave it to someone
else to pay for your burial, what have you done?
So to me? I always felt, and these were immigrant
families that came from Italy, had nothing but their Their
(32:25):
whole thing was, if you're gonna work and you can't
bury yourself, well, what have you accomplished me?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I felt like Tulia, this was a great first time call.
I took you just before my break, so I got
a scoop it do you favor?
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Okay, you said you're on.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
The younger side. How old are you?
Speaker 7 (32:42):
If I could ask Emily, I'll say it this way.
I'm twenty seven with thirty years experience.
Speaker 9 (32:49):
You add that up.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I can figure that one out. I can figure that
one outf do me a favor. Please keep listening to
Night's Eye and call more off. I loved your call.
Thank and I loved your voice. Thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Great great radio debut, great radio debut, Thank you, good night. Thanks.
We're going to get everybody in. I promise we got
Cheryl's next. We got Margie and the Caskles, we got
Cheryl and Arlington, Bill and Virginia, and the calls are
coming in. This has been a really a show that
exceeded my expectations. I'm I'm very happy. I hope you
are as well coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w BZ
Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Spent a busy night. We have full callers. I would
love to give everybody about a minute and a half
to two minutes here. I know you've been waiting in
some cases quite long. Let's see what we can do.
Cheryl and Arlington. Cheryl, thanks for calling in. You're next
on Nightside.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
Oh hi, Dan, it's a great topic.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (33:50):
So I'm going to be cremated. And when my mom
we have all talked about it, and she wanted to
be cremated, so I knew what her plans were. My
dad we never talked about it, but when he passed,
I asked my uncle, you know what to do because
it's a hard decision to make, you know, And so
(34:13):
my uncle said. They talked about it a lot, and
it didn't My dad always said it didn't matter so
he was cremated and he was buried in Medfield. And
so when my mom's time came, I said to her, well,
you know, daddy has a place and she said right
away because they would divorce since I was six months old.
(34:33):
She goes, I don't want to be next to him.
I said to her, well, I was thinking, mom, that
I could go in the middle and that you know,
you could be one on each side. And she says, oh,
that sounds really nice. Okay, that's good.
Speaker 9 (34:49):
So that's what happened.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Wow, So your dad is in a plot, but with.
Speaker 8 (34:58):
His the memorial garden in the Oak Grove Cemetery in Medford,
and my mom is there. But it's really funny. So
when we were putting my mom's ashes in the ground,
the undertaker they pulled back the little grass and they
had done the hole right next to my dad. I said, oh, no, no, no,
(35:22):
that's my spot.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
You need to move it over. We paid him a
few bucks and you got the shovel. So instead of crying,
we were laughing.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Well you so, hopefully in the next world, your mom
and dad will reconcile and you'll all be well.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
I'm sure they have.
Speaker 9 (35:45):
I'm sure they have.
Speaker 8 (35:48):
I believe in all that.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
You hit a very nice note on a tough subject,
and thanks so much for calling in. I hope you'll
continue to listen and continue to see you.
Speaker 8 (35:56):
Welcome.
Speaker 9 (35:57):
I do have a great vacation.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Thanks all right, let me keep her only he going
to go to Bill and Virginia billing need room for
you and one more go ahead, Bill.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Hey Dan, I'm a fan and I read the Globe
every day in Harald. But but your topic, my wife
and I both were We've met with the funeral director.
We bought plots which we're trying to we're going to
end up selling because I found out I can go
in the Virginia State Military uh cemetery since I served
seven years in the National Guard. And my wife has
(36:30):
her family has already has plots. So like my wife said,
we're going to end up at the same place anyway,
we hope, uh part of the problem, not the problem.
But I'm going to sell the two lots that we
have plots and uh. But but the church, the Catholic Church,
(36:52):
you know, they don't want long eulogies. And and I
met with a lady the other day and she said, well,
I said, I'd like to be cremated, and she said, well,
we'd like you here. I said, I'd like to be
here too, but uh anyway, she said, you can rent
a casket. So I'm calling the uh undertaker tomorrow and
see how much you cost to rent a casket.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
So you would you would be cremated and your remains
would be in the casket.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
And then no, no, she said, we want a body
for the visitation and the the wake and all that.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
That's pretty yeah, so they would allow you to be cremated.
They would They were okay with you being cremated after
the wake and after.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
The funeral, yes, yep, and even offer offer me a
luncheon and I said, well, I said, you know I
can't make that, but you know, wouldn't mind me. Yeah,
they they want a body at the at the service.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Yeah, at the mass.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
All right, Bill, I got to get one more in
and I'm a little clamped on time, but you're a
regular caller, please call back many times, and I oh
you a little bit of time here.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Okay, Okay, Dan, have a good vacation too.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
YouTube buddy will talk soon. Okay, thanks very much, sir.
I'm not going until next week CG CG and Cambridge CG.
Go right ahead. We got about a minute. I'm sorry
you late. You go right ahead.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Well, the woman who was fifty seven years old, she
had the right idea. About eight years ago, my wife
and I decided we'd buy a couple of plots, and
any of our children that want of you buried there
will have plenty of room, and it's all fought and
paid for.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's smart. And I also
think that if your grandchildren, you know, if for whatever
reason they're not utilized, those plots are only going to
increase in value. I'm serious when I.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Say that I would give them to homeless bets or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Well that's the possibility too. You know you could do that.
That's not your choice. But what I'm saying is it's
the value is not going to go down because the
scarcity of plots will can you sadly, but you know
there's too many people looking to get into these plots.
It's as simple as that. Ceej Cig you haven't called
(39:08):
in a long time. Call back and I owe you
more time.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Thank you so much, no problems, thank you, enjoy your vagation.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Bye, Thanks much, I'm not until Monday. I don't want
anybody wish to be vacation until Friday. Done for the night,
Rob Brooks, you did a great job tonight. Great job.
Thank you very much. Marita. Thank you wherever you are.
You're probably snoozing right now. Talk to you tomorrow morning.
Want to remind all of you on dogs, all cats,
all pets go to heaven. That's when my pal Charlie Rays,
who passed fifteen years ago in Febuary. That's why your
(39:36):
pets are past. They loved you and you love them.
I do believe you'll see them again. Hope to see
you again morning or night's out. Have a great Thursday, everybody.
I will be on Facebook nights. I with Dan Ray
in a couple of minutes, going to be quick. We'll
see you there. See you tomorrow night. Have a great Thursday.
Good night,
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