May 19, 2025 • 39 mins
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the Trump Administration can terminate the Temporary Protected Status program that protects roughly 350,000 Venezuelan migrants from the threat of deportation. Originally a federal judge blocked Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem's revocation of the TPS program saying that “ending the program could harm hundreds of thousands of people, cost the economy billions of dollars and hurt public health and safety.” How will this latest decision impact the country?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray WBZ Costs Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right, thank you, damn. As we move into the
ten o'clock hour here in a Monday night, Boy, it
seems like I'm going to have a really lousy week,
rain and cold. I was watching some of the weather
forecasts tonight. Might welcome on Channel five and I'll tell
you he was saying, like on Thursday on northeaster, and
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it was going to have temperatures in the fifties. Maybe
in some places, wouldn't get out of the forties. This
is May anyway, that's New England. I guess at some
point you would think that the weather will turn for
us and turn in a better direction. I don't know.
We'll have to wait and see. Okay, there was an
interesting and very interesting Supreme Court decision that came down today.
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President Trump, all of his various executive orders and efforts
to change the direction of the country have been challenged
in court, and generally you have this scenario of this
situation where a single federal district court judge, often appointed
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sometimes appointed by Donald Trump, but very often appointed by
the President Biden of President Obama. Rayve in some cases
President Clinton. Some of them going back that who are
on the bench for a long time. So there's a
program that's called temporary protected status, and that program basically
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says to people from certain countries, Hey, you're going to
get protected status here in America because it may be
too dangerous for you to return home. Now you can
return home if you want, but of course most people
here are going to want to stay here. A federal
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judge in San Francisco, who I believe, if I'm not mistaken,
was appointed by President Biden. He basically said, no, wait
a second, the president cannot end temporary protected status, even
though when you think about the name temporary protected status.
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The first word reading from the New York Times report
written by Adam Liptac and Abby Vin Sickle the Supreme
Court on Monday, meaning today, let the Trump administration for
now remove protections from nearly three hundred and fifty thousand
Venezuelan immigrants who had been allowed to remain in the
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United States without risk of deportation under a program called
temporary protected status. This brief order was unsigned. There was
not a written opinion with it, but basically, because it's
an emergency application, the vote is we can't be sure
of the vote. We know that although no vote count
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was listed, only one. Justice, Katanji Brown Jackson, noted that
she would deny the administration's request, which was to overturn
the order of the federal judge in San Francisco, and
his order had been upheld by the Ninth Circuit. So
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the justices announced that they will allow the Trump administration
to end the protections pending appeal of the case. So
the case will be heard, but in the meantime, as
long as the temporary Protected Status has been vacated, this
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will allow the administration to move ahead with deportations. But
the justices also said that they would preserve the ability,
meaning disorder from the court preserve the ability of individual
immigrants to bring some legal challenges if the government tried
to cancel their work permits or to remove them from
the from the country. So it's a little bit more complicated,
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but it is a big victory at least in the
short term by for the Trump administration. The Temporary Protected
Status program, enacted by Congress and signed into law by
President George H. W. Bush, allow migrants from nations that
have experienced national disasters, armed conflicts, or other extraordinary instabilities
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to live and work legally in the US. I think
that the times might mean have experienced natural disasters, not
national disasters, but natural disasters. Would we could use that
as a synonym Trump. Mister Trump had tried to end
protection under the program as he seek to make good
in his campaign promise to deport millions of immigrants. His
efforts aim to terminate protections for nearly three hundred and
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fifty thousand people in early April and for hundreds of
thousands more later this year. So that is an interesting
ruling by the US Supreme Court today. And I think
that I would like to talk a little bit about
the shift of political wins in this country and that
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President Trump is just returned from what would appear to
be a successful trip to the Middle East, Saudi Arabia,
uaa Qatar, Cutter and that seems to have gone pretty well.
The announcement that President former President Biden sadly is now
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dealing with a serious diagnosis cancer. They have this lease
and scale from one to ten, ten being the least
serious and ten being the most serious, and he's nine
on the gleas and scale. President Trump and his wife
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issued a very heartfelt best wishes to not only former
President Biden, but to his wife. So all of a sudden,
the political wins seem to have begun to at least
blow in the direction of President Trump. Obviously, the stock
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market has recovered the losses that were arguably inflicted by
President Trump when he imposed the tariffs in April, and
it just seems things are beginning to go in his
direct politically. I know that gasoline prices are down, although
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they could be up in your local gas station, could
be up a couple of cents. One of my listeners
today sent me an email to that effect, But they
are certainly down substantially from where they were. Oil prices
remained down all of these things. So what I'd like
to do is get your reaction to the Supreme Court decision.
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Are you vexed by this? Do you feel that this
is going to give the president license to deport more people,
including obviously members of that group that has been characterized
as a terrorist group from Venezuela Trende to Agua. That
does not mean that every Venezuelan who is in this
country is a terrorist, and I want to emphasize that,
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but it certainly might make it easier for the president
to deport some of the worst of the worst, people
who are here not to find a better life in
the traditional sense, but are here to re establish themselves
as a group here. Basically, we have enough organized crime
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in America of various different types. We don't need more.
We don't need to open our borders. The borders are
now closed, which is another thing that I think President
Trump it will benefit by. That's the one issue I
think that he is. He gets the highest marks from
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folks across the board, So I just want to open
it up. It's not open lines, but I just love
to know if you agree or disagree things seem to
be settling down. I'd love to know if you perceive
that or if you think I'm totally wrong. I know
that there's a good number of people in my audience
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who will ever applaud Donald Trump virtually everything. And I
know that there are some people in my audience who
will applaud him no matter what I might say. But
I just want to get a sense. And if you
are a Trump voter and you're pretty happy right now,
I can understand that. If you're somebody who voted for
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him reluctantly and am surprised to disappointed, love to hear
from you. And if you're a Biden voter, if you
are steadfast in your belief that he is a clear
and present danger, feel free. If, on the other hand,
you feel that well, maybe some of his ideas are
working out better than you expected, they feel free to
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join the conversation. Six seven, two, five, four ten thirty
six one seven nine three one ten thirty. One of
the things I try to pride myself here on each
side is to emphasize to all of you that whatever
your point of view is, I want to hear it.
We can have a conversation and we can be a
polite between ourselves, and we can agree to disagree or
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we can agree to agree. It doesn't matter. I want
as many people listening to this program of all political viewpoints,
of all ages, of every possible stripe that you can imagine.
And I would ask all of you to tell your
friends about Nightside. I mean, many people sit in front
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of televisions during the time that I'm on the air,
and they just they enjoy I guess sitting in an
echo chamber. Please. I don't think anyone will find this
as an echo chamber because there will be some things
that I agree upon, some that you will agree with
me upon, some that you will disagree. That's what this
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is about. The whole idea here is to make me
think a little more and to make you think a
little more. It's what I believe. It's what we have
tried to do with this for the first eighteen years,
and what we will always try to do with this program.
I have my viewpoints, you have yours. I'm small enough
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to know that I might not be right on everything
or correct on everything. I'm always willing to listen to
arguments in either direction as long as it's an argument.
Had a conversation, not necessarily looking for speeches. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
Take a real quick break, coming right back on Nightside.
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Feel free to join the conversation back right after this.
You're on night Side with Dan Ray.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I'mn Youbzy Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Okay, let's see what people have to say, Let's see
what people have to think and again. Uh, if you've
never called the show before one, join the conversation. Jump
in the pool. The water's final Let me go to
Lauren and Plymouth. Hey, Lauren, how are you tonight? Welcome?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Hi Dan?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Hey? What's going on down in Plymouth?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Oh boy, well, it's getting busy because it's tour season.
I'm actually here just for the summer seasonally. I'm a
street vendor.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Oh really, So where do you spend? Where do you
spend the winters? Are you from New England?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I am. I'm actually born and raised Ashland, mass and
then I lived I rented a big house in Lhington
for a while, and then Milford ten years now I'm
in Uxbridge.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Whoa all right? Moving around there? All right? So so
you down there as a street vendor?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Is do you work for some company or is this
your own your own side hustle.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I have a license, I have the I have the
I have the vending license to do it.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Really, okay? What what? What? What are your wears? So
in case somebody sees you, they can they can tell
you I heard you on night side bright colors, bright colors?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Okay, with your name.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
With your name on the front, with your radio station.
I just texted everybody I knew to tune in.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
So this is well, this is.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
So unlike me to call. But you know, you really
struck a chord with a few things.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
That you said.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Well, go ahead, I'm all ears. I'd love to hear you.
They've called before, right, I seem to remember you from before,
maybe maybe the super.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I think I may have called many many years ago,
maybe a decade or so.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Okay, well you got to combine more often. Go ahead,
I'm listening. I want to hear what you got to say.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
All right, Well, thanks Dan, I really enjoy your show,
and I consider myself an independent. I don't even know
if there's a name for where I you know, I
think most Americans are lean on both sides now because
you know, politically, the world is just so confused and
screwed up. I like some of the things that Trump does,
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and you know, some of the things that he does,
I don't like it all goes from the Democrats with
this immigrant Yeah go ahead, No, I said, I'm very.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Much where you are at this point. You want to
call me an independent, unenrolled or whatever, I'm right, I
mean registered, you know, as un enrolled voter in Massachusetts,
I can vote in whatever direction I want. I feel
loyalty to any party because anybody any party has a
loyalty to me. Go I'm listening. I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
You know it's really it's really upsetting and disappointing. I
have a teenage daughter at home, and I'm a renter
and I rent because you know, I do do a
lot of traveling around the country during different tours and seasons,
depending upon what state it is. I'm forty five years old,
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and I got to tell you this whole immigration thing,
and it's it's really really screwed up the housing situation.
What's happening is Americans like myself, middle class Americans who
are hard working, who have two jobs, raising kids, we're
suffering because the market it's you know, they're they're jacking
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up the prices so high because what's happening is they
don't want harder and money. And I don't know how
this is going to sound to some of the viewers,
but the Section eight and then this and then that,
and the and the benefits that these people get. What's
happening is, you know, the landlords, they want that money.
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It's guaranteed they're paying more. Section eight offers a higher
higher amount than what they were typically charging prior. And
I love people I consider myself a liberal leaving liberal.
I have a deep sympathy and empathy for every country
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and person that lives on this planet, and I wish
we could save them all. And I believe we could
if all the billionaires got together and donated some of
their money. I really do believe that we could make
a massive impact on hunger and many other things. But
getting back to the topic, you know, the one thing
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I do think that most Americans can agree on is
that it's time to start deporting. And I hate that word,
but I just think that this is not the time
for us to be housing people when our own people
who live here, the citizens who have lived here for generations,
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we can't even find housing and afford it without working
two three jobs. We're suffering.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I think you represent a viewpoint that a lot of
people hold. We have veterans who have fought for this
country in far flung parts of the world who come
home and there's very little help for them. And you're right.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
When you know it makes me want to cry because
I want to save them all. I mean, you know something,
if we had the housing and we had enough funding
to help the citizens and bring them in, I would
be so all for it.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I would, I would, I would do the other the
other thing, and I'll just try to clarify one thing,
and that is that I think that we do need
people to come into this country. Every year. We only
naturalize about about a million people a year, and we're
a country of three hundred million people. However, and I
think you might agree with me on this, I want
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to know who's coming in the country. I want to
know what their background is, and I want to know
what skill set they bring to the country. I don't
know if they're if they're doctors, nurses, which we vitally need,
or if they're people are street well we we are, okay,
but that's fine. But what it is you know, someone
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who picks vegetables or fruit. I mean, they're critically important
as well, but we got to know who they are.
We have allowed open borders, rapists, child molesters, murderers, they're
Americans who had died or whose children died, or who
have been raped or have been molested. I mean, there's
some bad people that came across the border. We had
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probably twenty million people come across the border in the
last few years. And it's all well and good to say, oh,
we're the most generous people in the world, and the
Statue of Liberty and all of the h but.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I tell us groups that are reasonable, we don't have
the staff and to do that, we don't have the times.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
But what I'm saying is when people came into Ellis Island,
remember this, they were checked meetically, and if they had
some form of communical disease like tuberculosis, they were turned away.
They were turned away. We have no idea who's coming
across the border in the last twenty years.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
And by the way, they were working in numbers that
were far less.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Of course, you know these numbers that.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
We're working with today. We don't even have the time.
In the twenty four hours a day, I mean, our
staff that worked the borders, they wouldn't be.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Able to sleep, no question. And the other thing that
I think is just so important is that it's easy
to say, oh, come one, come on, but we can't
deal with that. We have to take care of our
senior citizens. We have to take care of people who
happen to have been fortunate enough to have been born
here in American citizens. We have to take care of
people with disabilities. We have a big family, a big
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American family. We can bring more people in, but we
got to know who they are and what their purpose
isn't coming here, And that's not too much to ask.
If I'm going to have a big party at my
house or you're going to have a big party at
your house, you want to know who I am. You
want to make sure that that you don't put hang
out a sign party at Lawrence because people will call up,
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come and show up for the wrong reasons. Lauren, I
love you. Call I'm at ten thirty and I got
to go to.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Right, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Ans to the viewers.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I just want to say, if you're raising children, especially
young teens, take them out to the cities, take them
to the areas where there's homeless people, and have your
children hand out little bags with socks, a five dollars bill,
one dollar bill, a care bag. Let the kids see
what's happening in this country with a homeless situation. Get
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them involved. And that said, Dan Ray, have a good night, all.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Right, come on back soon, Okay, I want to next
time I'm in Plymouth, I'm going to look for you.
It's a street vender.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Thanks, all right, even discount sales.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Bye, good night only line open six one, seven, four,
ten thirty. Uh is the political atmosphere of moving in
the direction the winds of change now blowing in the
direction of Donald Trump. Uh. It seems to me, and
I'm just talking as a political observer, it's like I'm
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watching a baseball game, and it looks to me as
if he's putting some points on the score word board.
Joined the conversation back on night Side right after this,
I got Mike and Peter coming up, and I got
some room for you. Okay, we got full lines. Let's
go to Mike and Beverly. Mike next to Nightside, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Hey, indeed, Hammy.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I can hear you. Fine, where are you sounding. You're
in the top of Mount Washington. I can hear you.
Find Mike, what's on your mind?
Speaker 6 (21:24):
No, I just think the finally the Trump agenda is
working its way through. When the Democrat speak out has
been overturned by the Supine burd you know a lot
of sort of stuff that the Democrats are freaking out
about as the Supine Court has overturned and and made
it the right way on a lot of different things.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, well, well, it's kind of a mixed bag from
the Supreme Court at this point. The ruling today on
a short term basis gives him some flexibility on how
to deal with Venezuelan's who were here under temporary protected status. Again,
and it's temporary protected status, it's not forever protected status.
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There will be other decisions that come down. But you
just get a sense that maybe maybe the political winds
are shifting somewhat in terms of In early April, when
he came down with Liberation Day and the and the
stock market tank, I mean, it looked as if he
had made a huge mistake. Now he is backed off
that a little bit, but at least he had the
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sense to do that. I think he had a successful
trip to the Middle East. He had a two hour
conversation with Vladimir Putin today. I think Putin is going
to be a tough nut to crack in terms of
the Ukraine. But if he ever can get Putin to
back off Ukraine, there's a lot. There's a lot going
on in the White House right now.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Oh, I get it. I mean that's the big thing too.
He get that reconciliation bill pass this week. The Markt's
gonna go through the room. Yes, I think his ns
should be if he gets that bill passed, he should
be MP cannidate. By getting that that bill passed through
the House.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Is in it.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Well, I would just say this to you, don't take
that one for granted. I mean, it lost a committee
vote on Friday night and there were four Republicans who
voted with the Democrats against that. So yeah, I'm just
I'm not saying that that the game is over here.
I'm just saying that that if I was a baseball announcement,
and if we were in the second or third inning,
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you'd say, gee, that team is doing a little bit
better than maybe expected. That's all.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Yeah, But they worked all weekend and those those people
voted President on Novo so at passed last night.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yes, you're accurate, You're you're accurate. It got out of committee.
But you know, but you have different factions there. You
got some of the uh some of the northern Republicans
in New York State and they're in the high tax states.
They want to want to lift the amount of money
that that people can can take his federal tax deductions.
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You have others who think that, uh, it needs to
be tougher on this. It's it's what do they say
watching watching laws passes like watching sausages made it's better
to all right, well, Mike, I I think we're in
agreement that that, as of now, at least, maybe the
winds are blowing in his direction. But we'll say sometimes
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political winds change. Thanks, Mike, appreciate you calling. Thanks, we're
going you two. Let me go next to uh Bob
in Rhode Island. Bob, you were next on nightside.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Welcome, good Dan. I'm glad to be the next one.
You think Trump is winning the court battles? Now, I
think I don't know where you get that impression.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Watch. We'll just you know, read if you get the
chance to. Do you get the New York Times? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (24:57):
I can read. I can read, buddy.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I just want to I know if you've got the
New York Times down there, there's an interesting article.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Now.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
No, I don't invest in three four douse five dollars
for a newspaper.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
So what what newspapers do you rely on down there,
Providence journal.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
I rely on people like you and the WPR a
lot a.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Lot of Well, I just was explaining that today the
Supreme Court is a court. I'll reach you the headline
from the time Supreme Court lets Trump lift deportation protections
for Venezuelans. Basically, the the Court today are by an
eight to one vote, basically allowed the Trump administration to
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remove protections for nearly three hundred and fifty thousand Venezuelan
immigrants who had been allowed to stay in the US
without risk of deportation under that program known as Temporary
Protected Status. And it was It's a it's one small
positive from Donald Trump's perspective. I know that you're not
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a big Trump fan, and I respect.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
That you're right.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
You're right, You're absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I know my call is pretty well and I appreciate
the fact that you're willing to engage.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
I listened to you. I listened to you, Dan.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I appreciate that, and I appreciate the fact that you
take the time to call you. Don't you feel that
he's still fighting an uphill battle, I assume is what you.
I hope, so, okay, I understand that.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
Well. I got one more thing, if you don't mind, absolutely,
how about Ellis Island. My grandparents came through the Ellis Island.
I you just saying there was a They were running
a great scrutiny back in the nineteen hundreds of nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, in the early nineteen hundreds when Ellis Island was
the port of entry. If people came here, particularly with tuberculosis,
they were turned away. I mean it probably was pretty
considered by today's standards, pretty cruel. But here's what I'm saying,
and maybe I can reach a little point of agreement
with you. Just beer with me for second.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
I'll bear with you.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
You know that we we basically naturalize about a million people,
a little less than a million people every year as
new US citizens. Okay, that's the number. Trust me. Okay,
I think we could increase that number, double it or
triple it because we have a birth rate in this
country which is quite low. It does it's not even
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at the replacement level. Okay, they say that, you know,
the birth rate should be two point one in order
to replace you know, a generation, a generation.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Are you really worried about the birth rate? Yeah, the
world I'm worried about.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Well, I'll tell you. I don't know how old you are.
I'm just curious.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
Are you close to seventy five?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I got it, I got it.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
Well, baby boom, I'm a baby boomer, like myself.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
We're both baby boomers. Okay, one of the things baby
boomers should be concerned about, Bob, is our social Security
payments and where there are fewer people work in these days.
We need more people working and we need generations coming along.
But I don't want to get distracted to what I
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was trying to say.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
Beause there's one more thing I want.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Hold on. Let me finish my thought, because I think
you might agree with me, believe it or not. I
suggest that we should allow two or three million people
to commit the country legally every year. Would you agree with.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
Me a lot?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
And here's the only caveat that I would put on that.
I want to make sure we know who the people are,
what their background is, and why they're coming here. So
if we need doctors and nurses, which I think we do,
and they're coming here from anywhere in the world, and
they're qualified and they're good people, head of the line,
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head of the line, if we need people, do you
agree with me? That's all I'm mean.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
Yeah, it sounds good.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Good, That's all I'm saying. And if if we need people.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
To tell me one more thing I wanted to say.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I'm not gonna cut you off.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
I just want one other questions.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I don't Yeah, good, we're having We're having a good conversation.
And if there are people, if we need people to
pick fruit or vegetables, let them go to the head
of the line as well. We need to have It's
like if you have a party at your house, Bob,
you just don't open the doors and let everybody in
Rhode Island in. You want people to commit who you know?
That's all I'm saying. Go ahead. You wanted to meet
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another point.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
Yeah, well, go ahead. The saying was back and then
give me a poor downtrodden. I think there was a
famous saying give me your poor brown trodden.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
That's what the statue to you.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
In the United States of America. I don't think they're
doing that anymore.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Well, I'm suggesting, as you just agreed with me, I
think we invite more.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
I agree with you, But I had this thing, I think,
can't you agree with me? Is Trump doing that good
a job?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Well?
Speaker 7 (30:09):
How was there I have that much problems? In nineteen
hundreds when Ellis Island and Trump wasn't even alive, they.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Off Ellis Island was was look, Ellis Island. That's probably
where most people's four beers came into the country. I'm
agreeing with you, let me agree with you. But what
I'm saying is they screened people and if people came
in and they were you know, they had again communicable diseases,
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they were turned away. Okay, and you know that was cruel.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
Joe Biden didn't do that. Joe Biden didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Joe Biden wasn't born. He wasn't born until nineteen forty two.
Speaker 7 (30:50):
It was born eight years ago or four years ago.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
He was born in nineteen forty two November, now I.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
Know, and he was pleasant it until January.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Oh good, well, thank you very much. I appreciate that
information as well. Bob was a very conversation. Have a
great night. We'll be back on Nightside right after the break.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Let me go to Matt and Florida next day. Matt,
welcome next to the Nightside. How are you.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Come back to follow?
Speaker 5 (31:24):
I got one guy calling from a laundry machine, a
Washington machine, and then and then the next guy who
thinks Joe Biden was a good president. Again, I got
a question. I'm in Florida, but I always get like
Boston News on it on my phone. Yes, and my my,
heally's taking credit for shutting down all the home all
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the migrant shelters.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I don't know in the hell, I don't know if
she's taking credit, but I'll tell you this, Yeah, yeah,
she's shutting him down.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
She was legitimate. I used to think she was a
legitimate politician, like a smart person.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Is she?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Are there anything as such thing as an honest politician?
I mean, I give me one person with any kind
of credibility. It's just insane to me. It's is there anyone?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I think that there was some. I think there were
there were there are some. And I think with with Heally,
I think that you and I probably disagree with some
of the things she's done. And I think that that
she she's sensing the political wins in Massachusetts. She's a
pretty good politician in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Master she's at the Celtics games.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Half of her time spent at the Celtics games bragging
about how she played basketball in college, and then the
other half is just taking credit.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
For stuff that she was one hundred percent against. Two
weeks ago. It's hilarious. It's just it modulate.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Maybe she's getting ready for re elections. She realized that
this is an issue that she needs to she needs
to change direction on. That's what politicians are.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
The reason the reason the migrant shelters a clothing is
because Ice is up there shipping everyone off. I mean,
give me a freaking break. It's unbelievable. I just I
had to call on that. It's just hilarious to me.
But uh yeah, that's all I had. Thanks for a look.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I appreciate Hey, let me ask you. You've never told
me this guy, how old are you?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I just turned forty. I mean, listen to me for
twenty years.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Do me a favor, Do me a favor. Tell all
your friends in Florida. I want to get more listeners
like Matt who are in their thirties and forties.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Okay, yeah, that's I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I mean, that's seriously. I love all my listeners. But
you know, look, I I don't know you know how.
I think it's great when I hear from young people.
I thought that Lawrence Call was great in the first
the first all tonight, you know, and I just appreciate
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you as a call.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
You know that I'm not so young anymore. I used
to think I was, and now I'm not. I'm getting
into that older generation at this.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Point, but I'm forty years old. You're small enough to
know what the value of things are at this point.
Thanks Buddy. The Doug.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Well, it's kind of like what you said once. It's
kind of like what you said once. And you know,
I used to think I was some pretentious, you know,
a twenty year old when I first started calling you,
And that whole phrase really is true. If you're not a.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Liberal when you're young, you have no soul.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
And if you're not a little more conservative, you know
twenty years later, you have no brain. It's really the truth.
I mean, it really is.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Thanks Tom, Thanks Matt Love the call man. Be Well, okay,
you got some nice weather down there. We got some
miserable weather coming up this week. Ken is in Waldam. Hey, Ken,
welcome back.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
How are you great?
Speaker 4 (34:50):
How are you Dan?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I'm doing just great. I love to get your perspective
of this.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Well, the first, you know, I did want to talk
about gas prices, and simply my message to you today
was they have not they're certainly way.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Down from last year, but they're.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Actually up a couple of pennies nationwide since Trump took office.
And it just seems like.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
The only thing I'd say to you it and I'm
so glad you're called is that one. There is always
a little bit of a bump in May because of
the different types of gas that are used in the
summer for the so called summer driving season. But you know,
I think it's a legitimate point you made, and I'm
(35:37):
comfortable I paid I paid two eighty nine to night.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
What are you paying in wealtham Yep, same amount they're
down in New England, no question down in New England.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
But right, and of course we tend to be on
the wrong, the wrong end of the pipeline up here. Ken.
You know, we got a lot, we got great great
spring weather, right right right, and you know the Celtics
are going to win band in nineteen maybe not this year.
But you know, all of you are saying we get
the short end of the stick in terms of generally.
(36:09):
But you know, let's see, I mean, it's a good thing.
I don't care who's president. If if I pay less
for gas, that's it for me. That's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, no question.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
And my only other part of the message I just
gave an example was in the Salt Lake City it
was it was to ninety on January twenty after. Now
they're paying like three twenty five.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Well, now what my heart, my heart's breaking for cultics.
But give it a between them paying three and a quarter,
are you and me paying three and a quarter? I'm
gonna give it to them. I'm sorry I need to.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Be a jerk, but no, no, I guess my only
point too, or another point was I mean, I don't
think the Trump administration has anything to do with any
of these changes at the moment.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
It's as long as they're good, right. Second, hold on,
do you know what the price of oil is today?
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Oh? How much for a barrel? You mean?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, it's like sixty two bucks.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
I don't Actually, it's.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
About sixty two bucks a barrow. Uh, there were times
in the past when it's been as high as hundred
and fifty. I hope it goes to fifty a barrel,
you know, And just because I think it's going to
be good for the economy, it's good for you and me.
We save a few bucks, But in a larger scale,
it means more people are going to work, that's all.
And I don't really care who on who's on who's
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watch that happens. I got to be honest with you,
I'm not rooting for high gas prices. When Joe Biden
was president, I was for low gas prices.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Right, let's see what and hopefully for the rate for
the right reasons, right, because they did get down to
one eighty or so when during Trump's first terms. But
but at that point, the streets were empty, right, I
mean the highways were empty.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Right. Well, yes, you're right, you're right, And that was
when when COVID first hit. You're right, and and that
was a huge factor. That was an anomaly. But I
don't think they're going to get to one to eighty again.
But boy, if we could get him down to fifty
or so, you know, across the country or I think
would it would help the economy, It would help unemployment,
it would be a positive. And that's all I'm saying.
(38:16):
And you're a fair guy, so and I'm a fair guy.
If they go back up to four dollars a gallon,
you know, in September, I'm going to be on here
saying what's happening what's going on here? Why is it
going up? I don't know. I mean, if we can
get if Trump can can somehow get this knucklehead Putin
to stop throwing missiles in a Ukraine, I'll give him
credit for it.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Well, yeah, I wasn't going to go down that route,
but it.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
I do think Trump's doing everything wrong there.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
And well he's got him talking. I mean, I don't know,
can you know. I mean, let's see what happens. Okay,
let's see if all of a sudden tomorrow morning Putin
decides to throw a nuke in on Kiev. I got
to agree with you, but let's see ye back in
the when you and I were both a little younger,
give piece of chance. Let's give piece of chance.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Well, I think the so let me. I wanted to
get one other you.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I'll hold you through the news here one other thing.
But they're going to wait the other side of the news.
Come back to you right after the news, coming back
right after the eleven
It's Night Side with Dan Ray WBZ Costs Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right, thank you, damn. As we move into the
ten o'clock hour here in a Monday night, Boy, it
seems like I'm going to have a really lousy week,
rain and cold. I was watching some of the weather
forecasts tonight. Might welcome on Channel five and I'll tell
you he was saying, like on Thursday on northeaster, and
(00:28):
it was going to have temperatures in the fifties. Maybe
in some places, wouldn't get out of the forties. This
is May anyway, that's New England. I guess at some
point you would think that the weather will turn for
us and turn in a better direction. I don't know.
We'll have to wait and see. Okay, there was an
interesting and very interesting Supreme Court decision that came down today.
(00:50):
President Trump, all of his various executive orders and efforts
to change the direction of the country have been challenged
in court, and generally you have this scenario of this
situation where a single federal district court judge, often appointed
(01:12):
sometimes appointed by Donald Trump, but very often appointed by
the President Biden of President Obama. Rayve in some cases
President Clinton. Some of them going back that who are
on the bench for a long time. So there's a
program that's called temporary protected status, and that program basically
(01:39):
says to people from certain countries, Hey, you're going to
get protected status here in America because it may be
too dangerous for you to return home. Now you can
return home if you want, but of course most people
here are going to want to stay here. A federal
(02:00):
judge in San Francisco, who I believe, if I'm not mistaken,
was appointed by President Biden. He basically said, no, wait
a second, the president cannot end temporary protected status, even
though when you think about the name temporary protected status.
(02:24):
The first word reading from the New York Times report
written by Adam Liptac and Abby Vin Sickle the Supreme
Court on Monday, meaning today, let the Trump administration for
now remove protections from nearly three hundred and fifty thousand
Venezuelan immigrants who had been allowed to remain in the
(02:45):
United States without risk of deportation under a program called
temporary protected status. This brief order was unsigned. There was
not a written opinion with it, but basically, because it's
an emergency application, the vote is we can't be sure
of the vote. We know that although no vote count
(03:07):
was listed, only one. Justice, Katanji Brown Jackson, noted that
she would deny the administration's request, which was to overturn
the order of the federal judge in San Francisco, and
his order had been upheld by the Ninth Circuit. So
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the justices announced that they will allow the Trump administration
to end the protections pending appeal of the case. So
the case will be heard, but in the meantime, as
long as the temporary Protected Status has been vacated, this
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will allow the administration to move ahead with deportations. But
the justices also said that they would preserve the ability,
meaning disorder from the court preserve the ability of individual
immigrants to bring some legal challenges if the government tried
to cancel their work permits or to remove them from
the from the country. So it's a little bit more complicated,
(04:15):
but it is a big victory at least in the
short term by for the Trump administration. The Temporary Protected
Status program, enacted by Congress and signed into law by
President George H. W. Bush, allow migrants from nations that
have experienced national disasters, armed conflicts, or other extraordinary instabilities
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to live and work legally in the US. I think
that the times might mean have experienced natural disasters, not
national disasters, but natural disasters. Would we could use that
as a synonym Trump. Mister Trump had tried to end
protection under the program as he seek to make good
in his campaign promise to deport millions of immigrants. His
efforts aim to terminate protections for nearly three hundred and
(05:06):
fifty thousand people in early April and for hundreds of
thousands more later this year. So that is an interesting
ruling by the US Supreme Court today. And I think
that I would like to talk a little bit about
the shift of political wins in this country and that
(05:29):
President Trump is just returned from what would appear to
be a successful trip to the Middle East, Saudi Arabia,
uaa Qatar, Cutter and that seems to have gone pretty well.
The announcement that President former President Biden sadly is now
(05:55):
dealing with a serious diagnosis cancer. They have this lease
and scale from one to ten, ten being the least
serious and ten being the most serious, and he's nine
on the gleas and scale. President Trump and his wife
(06:19):
issued a very heartfelt best wishes to not only former
President Biden, but to his wife. So all of a sudden,
the political wins seem to have begun to at least
blow in the direction of President Trump. Obviously, the stock
(06:41):
market has recovered the losses that were arguably inflicted by
President Trump when he imposed the tariffs in April, and
it just seems things are beginning to go in his
direct politically. I know that gasoline prices are down, although
(07:07):
they could be up in your local gas station, could
be up a couple of cents. One of my listeners
today sent me an email to that effect, But they
are certainly down substantially from where they were. Oil prices
remained down all of these things. So what I'd like
to do is get your reaction to the Supreme Court decision.
(07:28):
Are you vexed by this? Do you feel that this
is going to give the president license to deport more people,
including obviously members of that group that has been characterized
as a terrorist group from Venezuela Trende to Agua. That
does not mean that every Venezuelan who is in this
country is a terrorist, and I want to emphasize that,
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but it certainly might make it easier for the president
to deport some of the worst of the worst, people
who are here not to find a better life in
the traditional sense, but are here to re establish themselves
as a group here. Basically, we have enough organized crime
(08:15):
in America of various different types. We don't need more.
We don't need to open our borders. The borders are
now closed, which is another thing that I think President
Trump it will benefit by. That's the one issue I
think that he is. He gets the highest marks from
(08:35):
folks across the board, So I just want to open
it up. It's not open lines, but I just love
to know if you agree or disagree things seem to
be settling down. I'd love to know if you perceive
that or if you think I'm totally wrong. I know
that there's a good number of people in my audience
(08:58):
who will ever applaud Donald Trump virtually everything. And I
know that there are some people in my audience who
will applaud him no matter what I might say. But
I just want to get a sense. And if you
are a Trump voter and you're pretty happy right now,
I can understand that. If you're somebody who voted for
(09:21):
him reluctantly and am surprised to disappointed, love to hear
from you. And if you're a Biden voter, if you
are steadfast in your belief that he is a clear
and present danger, feel free. If, on the other hand,
you feel that well, maybe some of his ideas are
working out better than you expected, they feel free to
(09:43):
join the conversation. Six seven, two, five, four ten thirty
six one seven nine three one ten thirty. One of
the things I try to pride myself here on each
side is to emphasize to all of you that whatever
your point of view is, I want to hear it.
We can have a conversation and we can be a
polite between ourselves, and we can agree to disagree or
(10:08):
we can agree to agree. It doesn't matter. I want
as many people listening to this program of all political viewpoints,
of all ages, of every possible stripe that you can imagine.
And I would ask all of you to tell your
friends about Nightside. I mean, many people sit in front
(10:28):
of televisions during the time that I'm on the air,
and they just they enjoy I guess sitting in an
echo chamber. Please. I don't think anyone will find this
as an echo chamber because there will be some things
that I agree upon, some that you will agree with
me upon, some that you will disagree. That's what this
(10:49):
is about. The whole idea here is to make me
think a little more and to make you think a
little more. It's what I believe. It's what we have
tried to do with this for the first eighteen years,
and what we will always try to do with this program.
I have my viewpoints, you have yours. I'm small enough
(11:09):
to know that I might not be right on everything
or correct on everything. I'm always willing to listen to
arguments in either direction as long as it's an argument.
Had a conversation, not necessarily looking for speeches. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
Take a real quick break, coming right back on Nightside.
(11:30):
Feel free to join the conversation back right after this.
You're on night Side with Dan Ray.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I'mn Youbzy Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Okay, let's see what people have to say, Let's see
what people have to think and again. Uh, if you've
never called the show before one, join the conversation. Jump
in the pool. The water's final Let me go to
Lauren and Plymouth. Hey, Lauren, how are you tonight? Welcome?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Hi Dan?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Hey? What's going on down in Plymouth?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Oh boy, well, it's getting busy because it's tour season.
I'm actually here just for the summer seasonally. I'm a
street vendor.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Oh really, So where do you spend? Where do you
spend the winters? Are you from New England?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I am. I'm actually born and raised Ashland, mass and
then I lived I rented a big house in Lhington
for a while, and then Milford ten years now I'm
in Uxbridge.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Whoa all right? Moving around there? All right? So so
you down there as a street vendor?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Is do you work for some company or is this
your own your own side hustle.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I have a license, I have the I have the
I have the vending license to do it.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Really, okay? What what? What? What are your wears? So
in case somebody sees you, they can they can tell
you I heard you on night side bright colors, bright colors?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Okay, with your name.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
With your name on the front, with your radio station.
I just texted everybody I knew to tune in.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
So this is well, this is.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
So unlike me to call. But you know, you really
struck a chord with a few things.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
That you said.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Well, go ahead, I'm all ears. I'd love to hear you.
They've called before, right, I seem to remember you from before,
maybe maybe the super.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I think I may have called many many years ago,
maybe a decade or so.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Okay, well you got to combine more often. Go ahead,
I'm listening. I want to hear what you got to say.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
All right, Well, thanks Dan, I really enjoy your show,
and I consider myself an independent. I don't even know
if there's a name for where I you know, I
think most Americans are lean on both sides now because
you know, politically, the world is just so confused and
screwed up. I like some of the things that Trump does,
(13:54):
and you know, some of the things that he does,
I don't like it all goes from the Democrats with
this immigrant Yeah go ahead, No, I said, I'm very.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Much where you are at this point. You want to
call me an independent, unenrolled or whatever, I'm right, I
mean registered, you know, as un enrolled voter in Massachusetts,
I can vote in whatever direction I want. I feel
loyalty to any party because anybody any party has a
loyalty to me. Go I'm listening. I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
You know it's really it's really upsetting and disappointing. I
have a teenage daughter at home, and I'm a renter
and I rent because you know, I do do a
lot of traveling around the country during different tours and seasons,
depending upon what state it is. I'm forty five years old,
(14:50):
and I got to tell you this whole immigration thing,
and it's it's really really screwed up the housing situation.
What's happening is Americans like myself, middle class Americans who
are hard working, who have two jobs, raising kids, we're
suffering because the market it's you know, they're they're jacking
(15:12):
up the prices so high because what's happening is they
don't want harder and money. And I don't know how
this is going to sound to some of the viewers,
but the Section eight and then this and then that,
and the and the benefits that these people get. What's
happening is, you know, the landlords, they want that money.
(15:34):
It's guaranteed they're paying more. Section eight offers a higher
higher amount than what they were typically charging prior. And
I love people I consider myself a liberal leaving liberal.
I have a deep sympathy and empathy for every country
(15:58):
and person that lives on this planet, and I wish
we could save them all. And I believe we could
if all the billionaires got together and donated some of
their money. I really do believe that we could make
a massive impact on hunger and many other things. But
getting back to the topic, you know, the one thing
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I do think that most Americans can agree on is
that it's time to start deporting. And I hate that word,
but I just think that this is not the time
for us to be housing people when our own people
who live here, the citizens who have lived here for generations,
(16:40):
we can't even find housing and afford it without working
two three jobs. We're suffering.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I think you represent a viewpoint that a lot of
people hold. We have veterans who have fought for this
country in far flung parts of the world who come
home and there's very little help for them. And you're right.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
When you know it makes me want to cry because
I want to save them all. I mean, you know something,
if we had the housing and we had enough funding
to help the citizens and bring them in, I would
be so all for it.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I would, I would, I would do the other the
other thing, and I'll just try to clarify one thing,
and that is that I think that we do need
people to come into this country. Every year. We only
naturalize about about a million people a year, and we're
a country of three hundred million people. However, and I
think you might agree with me on this, I want
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to know who's coming in the country. I want to
know what their background is, and I want to know
what skill set they bring to the country. I don't
know if they're if they're doctors, nurses, which we vitally need,
or if they're people are street well we we are, okay,
but that's fine. But what it is you know, someone
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who picks vegetables or fruit. I mean, they're critically important
as well, but we got to know who they are.
We have allowed open borders, rapists, child molesters, murderers, they're
Americans who had died or whose children died, or who
have been raped or have been molested. I mean, there's
some bad people that came across the border. We had
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probably twenty million people come across the border in the
last few years. And it's all well and good to say, oh,
we're the most generous people in the world, and the
Statue of Liberty and all of the h but.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I tell us groups that are reasonable, we don't have
the staff and to do that, we don't have the times.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
But what I'm saying is when people came into Ellis Island,
remember this, they were checked meetically, and if they had
some form of communical disease like tuberculosis, they were turned away.
They were turned away. We have no idea who's coming
across the border in the last twenty years.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
And by the way, they were working in numbers that
were far less.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Of course, you know these numbers that.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
We're working with today. We don't even have the time.
In the twenty four hours a day, I mean, our
staff that worked the borders, they wouldn't be.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Able to sleep, no question. And the other thing that
I think is just so important is that it's easy
to say, oh, come one, come on, but we can't
deal with that. We have to take care of our
senior citizens. We have to take care of people who
happen to have been fortunate enough to have been born
here in American citizens. We have to take care of
people with disabilities. We have a big family, a big
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American family. We can bring more people in, but we
got to know who they are and what their purpose
isn't coming here, And that's not too much to ask.
If I'm going to have a big party at my
house or you're going to have a big party at
your house, you want to know who I am. You
want to make sure that that you don't put hang
out a sign party at Lawrence because people will call up,
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come and show up for the wrong reasons. Lauren, I
love you. Call I'm at ten thirty and I got
to go to.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Right, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Ans to the viewers.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I just want to say, if you're raising children, especially
young teens, take them out to the cities, take them
to the areas where there's homeless people, and have your
children hand out little bags with socks, a five dollars bill,
one dollar bill, a care bag. Let the kids see
what's happening in this country with a homeless situation. Get
(20:22):
them involved. And that said, Dan Ray, have a good night, all.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Right, come on back soon, Okay, I want to next
time I'm in Plymouth, I'm going to look for you.
It's a street vender.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Thanks, all right, even discount sales.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Bye, good night only line open six one, seven, four,
ten thirty. Uh is the political atmosphere of moving in
the direction the winds of change now blowing in the
direction of Donald Trump. Uh. It seems to me, and
I'm just talking as a political observer, it's like I'm
(20:55):
watching a baseball game, and it looks to me as
if he's putting some points on the score word board.
Joined the conversation back on night Side right after this,
I got Mike and Peter coming up, and I got
some room for you. Okay, we got full lines. Let's
go to Mike and Beverly. Mike next to Nightside, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Hey, indeed, Hammy.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I can hear you. Fine, where are you sounding. You're
in the top of Mount Washington. I can hear you.
Find Mike, what's on your mind?
Speaker 6 (21:24):
No, I just think the finally the Trump agenda is
working its way through. When the Democrat speak out has
been overturned by the Supine burd you know a lot
of sort of stuff that the Democrats are freaking out
about as the Supine Court has overturned and and made
it the right way on a lot of different things.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, well, well, it's kind of a mixed bag from
the Supreme Court at this point. The ruling today on
a short term basis gives him some flexibility on how
to deal with Venezuelan's who were here under temporary protected status. Again,
and it's temporary protected status, it's not forever protected status.
(22:05):
There will be other decisions that come down. But you
just get a sense that maybe maybe the political winds
are shifting somewhat in terms of In early April, when
he came down with Liberation Day and the and the
stock market tank, I mean, it looked as if he
had made a huge mistake. Now he is backed off
that a little bit, but at least he had the
(22:28):
sense to do that. I think he had a successful
trip to the Middle East. He had a two hour
conversation with Vladimir Putin today. I think Putin is going
to be a tough nut to crack in terms of
the Ukraine. But if he ever can get Putin to
back off Ukraine, there's a lot. There's a lot going
on in the White House right now.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Oh, I get it. I mean that's the big thing too.
He get that reconciliation bill pass this week. The Markt's
gonna go through the room. Yes, I think his ns
should be if he gets that bill passed, he should
be MP cannidate. By getting that that bill passed through
the House.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Is in it.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Well, I would just say this to you, don't take
that one for granted. I mean, it lost a committee
vote on Friday night and there were four Republicans who
voted with the Democrats against that. So yeah, I'm just
I'm not saying that that the game is over here.
I'm just saying that that if I was a baseball announcement,
and if we were in the second or third inning,
(23:27):
you'd say, gee, that team is doing a little bit
better than maybe expected. That's all.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Yeah, But they worked all weekend and those those people
voted President on Novo so at passed last night.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yes, you're accurate, You're you're accurate. It got out of committee.
But you know, but you have different factions there. You
got some of the uh some of the northern Republicans
in New York State and they're in the high tax states.
They want to want to lift the amount of money
that that people can can take his federal tax deductions.
(24:04):
You have others who think that, uh, it needs to
be tougher on this. It's it's what do they say
watching watching laws passes like watching sausages made it's better
to all right, well, Mike, I I think we're in
agreement that that, as of now, at least, maybe the
winds are blowing in his direction. But we'll say sometimes
(24:27):
political winds change. Thanks, Mike, appreciate you calling. Thanks, we're
going you two. Let me go next to uh Bob
in Rhode Island. Bob, you were next on nightside.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Welcome, good Dan. I'm glad to be the next one.
You think Trump is winning the court battles? Now, I
think I don't know where you get that impression.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Watch. We'll just you know, read if you get the
chance to. Do you get the New York Times? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (24:57):
I can read. I can read, buddy.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I just want to I know if you've got the
New York Times down there, there's an interesting article.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Now.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
No, I don't invest in three four douse five dollars
for a newspaper.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
So what what newspapers do you rely on down there,
Providence journal.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
I rely on people like you and the WPR a
lot a.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Lot of Well, I just was explaining that today the
Supreme Court is a court. I'll reach you the headline
from the time Supreme Court lets Trump lift deportation protections
for Venezuelans. Basically, the the Court today are by an
eight to one vote, basically allowed the Trump administration to
(25:39):
remove protections for nearly three hundred and fifty thousand Venezuelan
immigrants who had been allowed to stay in the US
without risk of deportation under that program known as Temporary
Protected Status. And it was It's a it's one small
positive from Donald Trump's perspective. I know that you're not
(25:59):
a big Trump fan, and I respect.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
That you're right.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
You're right, You're absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I know my call is pretty well and I appreciate
the fact that you're willing to engage.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
I listened to you. I listened to you, Dan.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I appreciate that, and I appreciate the fact that you
take the time to call you. Don't you feel that
he's still fighting an uphill battle, I assume is what you.
I hope, so, okay, I understand that.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
Well. I got one more thing, if you don't mind, absolutely,
how about Ellis Island. My grandparents came through the Ellis Island.
I you just saying there was a They were running
a great scrutiny back in the nineteen hundreds of nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, in the early nineteen hundreds when Ellis Island was
the port of entry. If people came here, particularly with tuberculosis,
they were turned away. I mean it probably was pretty
considered by today's standards, pretty cruel. But here's what I'm saying,
and maybe I can reach a little point of agreement
with you. Just beer with me for second.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
I'll bear with you.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
You know that we we basically naturalize about a million people,
a little less than a million people every year as
new US citizens. Okay, that's the number. Trust me. Okay,
I think we could increase that number, double it or
triple it because we have a birth rate in this
country which is quite low. It does it's not even
(27:25):
at the replacement level. Okay, they say that, you know,
the birth rate should be two point one in order
to replace you know, a generation, a generation.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Are you really worried about the birth rate? Yeah, the
world I'm worried about.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Well, I'll tell you. I don't know how old you are.
I'm just curious.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
Are you close to seventy five?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I got it, I got it.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
Well, baby boom, I'm a baby boomer, like myself.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
We're both baby boomers. Okay, one of the things baby
boomers should be concerned about, Bob, is our social Security
payments and where there are fewer people work in these days.
We need more people working and we need generations coming along.
But I don't want to get distracted to what I
(28:13):
was trying to say.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
Beause there's one more thing I want.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Hold on. Let me finish my thought, because I think
you might agree with me, believe it or not. I
suggest that we should allow two or three million people
to commit the country legally every year. Would you agree with.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
Me a lot?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
And here's the only caveat that I would put on that.
I want to make sure we know who the people are,
what their background is, and why they're coming here. So
if we need doctors and nurses, which I think we do,
and they're coming here from anywhere in the world, and
they're qualified and they're good people, head of the line,
(28:55):
head of the line, if we need people, do you
agree with me? That's all I'm mean.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
Yeah, it sounds good.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Good, That's all I'm saying. And if if we need people.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
To tell me one more thing I wanted to say.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I'm not gonna cut you off.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
I just want one other questions.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I don't Yeah, good, we're having We're having a good conversation.
And if there are people, if we need people to
pick fruit or vegetables, let them go to the head
of the line as well. We need to have It's
like if you have a party at your house, Bob,
you just don't open the doors and let everybody in
Rhode Island in. You want people to commit who you know?
That's all I'm saying. Go ahead. You wanted to meet
(29:34):
another point.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
Yeah, well, go ahead. The saying was back and then
give me a poor downtrodden. I think there was a
famous saying give me your poor brown trodden.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
That's what the statue to you.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
In the United States of America. I don't think they're
doing that anymore.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Well, I'm suggesting, as you just agreed with me, I
think we invite more.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
I agree with you, But I had this thing, I think,
can't you agree with me? Is Trump doing that good
a job?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Well?
Speaker 7 (30:09):
How was there I have that much problems? In nineteen
hundreds when Ellis Island and Trump wasn't even alive, they.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Off Ellis Island was was look, Ellis Island. That's probably
where most people's four beers came into the country. I'm
agreeing with you, let me agree with you. But what
I'm saying is they screened people and if people came
in and they were you know, they had again communicable diseases,
(30:38):
they were turned away. Okay, and you know that was cruel.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
Joe Biden didn't do that. Joe Biden didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Joe Biden wasn't born. He wasn't born until nineteen forty two.
Speaker 7 (30:50):
It was born eight years ago or four years ago.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
He was born in nineteen forty two November, now I.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
Know, and he was pleasant it until January.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Oh good, well, thank you very much. I appreciate that
information as well. Bob was a very conversation. Have a
great night. We'll be back on Nightside right after the break.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Let me go to Matt and Florida next day. Matt,
welcome next to the Nightside. How are you.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Come back to follow?
Speaker 5 (31:24):
I got one guy calling from a laundry machine, a
Washington machine, and then and then the next guy who
thinks Joe Biden was a good president. Again, I got
a question. I'm in Florida, but I always get like
Boston News on it on my phone. Yes, and my my,
heally's taking credit for shutting down all the home all
(31:48):
the migrant shelters.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I don't know in the hell, I don't know if
she's taking credit, but I'll tell you this, Yeah, yeah,
she's shutting him down.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
She was legitimate. I used to think she was a
legitimate politician, like a smart person.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Is she?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Are there anything as such thing as an honest politician?
I mean, I give me one person with any kind
of credibility. It's just insane to me. It's is there anyone?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I think that there was some. I think there were
there were there are some. And I think with with Heally,
I think that you and I probably disagree with some
of the things she's done. And I think that that
she she's sensing the political wins in Massachusetts. She's a
pretty good politician in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Master she's at the Celtics games.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Half of her time spent at the Celtics games bragging
about how she played basketball in college, and then the
other half is just taking credit.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
For stuff that she was one hundred percent against. Two
weeks ago. It's hilarious. It's just it modulate.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Maybe she's getting ready for re elections. She realized that
this is an issue that she needs to she needs
to change direction on. That's what politicians are.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
The reason the reason the migrant shelters a clothing is
because Ice is up there shipping everyone off. I mean,
give me a freaking break. It's unbelievable. I just I
had to call on that. It's just hilarious to me.
But uh yeah, that's all I had. Thanks for a look.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I appreciate Hey, let me ask you. You've never told
me this guy, how old are you?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I just turned forty. I mean, listen to me for
twenty years.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Do me a favor, Do me a favor. Tell all
your friends in Florida. I want to get more listeners
like Matt who are in their thirties and forties.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Okay, yeah, that's I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I mean, that's seriously. I love all my listeners. But
you know, look, I I don't know you know how.
I think it's great when I hear from young people.
I thought that Lawrence Call was great in the first
the first all tonight, you know, and I just appreciate
(34:03):
you as a call.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
You know that I'm not so young anymore. I used
to think I was, and now I'm not. I'm getting
into that older generation at this.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Point, but I'm forty years old. You're small enough to
know what the value of things are at this point.
Thanks Buddy. The Doug.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Well, it's kind of like what you said once. It's
kind of like what you said once. And you know,
I used to think I was some pretentious, you know,
a twenty year old when I first started calling you,
And that whole phrase really is true. If you're not a.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Liberal when you're young, you have no soul.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
And if you're not a little more conservative, you know
twenty years later, you have no brain. It's really the truth.
I mean, it really is.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Thanks Tom, Thanks Matt Love the call man. Be Well, okay,
you got some nice weather down there. We got some
miserable weather coming up this week. Ken is in Waldam. Hey, Ken,
welcome back.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
How are you great?
Speaker 4 (34:50):
How are you Dan?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I'm doing just great. I love to get your perspective
of this.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Well, the first, you know, I did want to talk
about gas prices, and simply my message to you today
was they have not they're certainly way.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Down from last year, but they're.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Actually up a couple of pennies nationwide since Trump took office.
And it just seems like.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
The only thing I'd say to you it and I'm
so glad you're called is that one. There is always
a little bit of a bump in May because of
the different types of gas that are used in the
summer for the so called summer driving season. But you know,
I think it's a legitimate point you made, and I'm
(35:37):
comfortable I paid I paid two eighty nine to night.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
What are you paying in wealtham Yep, same amount they're
down in New England, no question down in New England.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
But right, and of course we tend to be on
the wrong, the wrong end of the pipeline up here. Ken.
You know, we got a lot, we got great great
spring weather, right right right, and you know the Celtics
are going to win band in nineteen maybe not this year.
But you know, all of you are saying we get
the short end of the stick in terms of generally.
(36:09):
But you know, let's see, I mean, it's a good thing.
I don't care who's president. If if I pay less
for gas, that's it for me. That's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, no question.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
And my only other part of the message I just
gave an example was in the Salt Lake City it
was it was to ninety on January twenty after. Now
they're paying like three twenty five.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Well, now what my heart, my heart's breaking for cultics.
But give it a between them paying three and a quarter,
are you and me paying three and a quarter? I'm
gonna give it to them. I'm sorry I need to.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Be a jerk, but no, no, I guess my only
point too, or another point was I mean, I don't
think the Trump administration has anything to do with any
of these changes at the moment.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
It's as long as they're good, right. Second, hold on,
do you know what the price of oil is today?
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Oh? How much for a barrel? You mean?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, it's like sixty two bucks.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
I don't Actually, it's.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
About sixty two bucks a barrow. Uh, there were times
in the past when it's been as high as hundred
and fifty. I hope it goes to fifty a barrel,
you know, And just because I think it's going to
be good for the economy, it's good for you and me.
We save a few bucks, But in a larger scale,
it means more people are going to work, that's all.
And I don't really care who on who's on who's
(37:30):
watch that happens. I got to be honest with you,
I'm not rooting for high gas prices. When Joe Biden
was president, I was for low gas prices.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Right, let's see what and hopefully for the rate for
the right reasons, right, because they did get down to
one eighty or so when during Trump's first terms. But
but at that point, the streets were empty, right, I
mean the highways were empty.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Right. Well, yes, you're right, you're right, And that was
when when COVID first hit. You're right, and and that
was a huge factor. That was an anomaly. But I
don't think they're going to get to one to eighty again.
But boy, if we could get him down to fifty
or so, you know, across the country or I think
would it would help the economy, It would help unemployment,
it would be a positive. And that's all I'm saying.
(38:16):
And you're a fair guy, so and I'm a fair guy.
If they go back up to four dollars a gallon,
you know, in September, I'm going to be on here
saying what's happening what's going on here? Why is it
going up? I don't know. I mean, if we can
get if Trump can can somehow get this knucklehead Putin
to stop throwing missiles in a Ukraine, I'll give him
credit for it.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Well, yeah, I wasn't going to go down that route,
but it.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
I do think Trump's doing everything wrong there.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
And well he's got him talking. I mean, I don't know,
can you know. I mean, let's see what happens. Okay,
let's see if all of a sudden tomorrow morning Putin
decides to throw a nuke in on Kiev. I got
to agree with you, but let's see ye back in
the when you and I were both a little younger,
give piece of chance. Let's give piece of chance.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Well, I think the so let me. I wanted to
get one other you.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I'll hold you through the news here one other thing.
But they're going to wait the other side of the news.
Come back to you right after the news, coming back
right after the eleven
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