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May 19, 2025 40 mins
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the Trump Administration can terminate the Temporary Protected Status program that protects roughly 350,000 Venezuelan migrants from the threat of deportation. Originally a federal judge blocked Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem's revocation of the TPS program saying that “ending the program could harm hundreds of thousands of people, cost the economy billions of dollars and hurt public health and safety.” How will this latest decision impact the country?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm tell you easy
Boston News Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right, thanks very much, Dan Watkins. Let's get back
to the calls. Let's give them Ken an opportunity. Ken,
you wanted to add something before you left, Go right ahead.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
You had talked about, you know, are we comfortable, you know,
with where we are. Trump's you know, moderate modifying or
moderating some of his positions. The Bureau of Economic Analysis
released their advanced estimate for Q one of twenty twenty five, right,
and they're saying the GDP is going to contract by
zero point three percent. So if that's true, you know,

(00:40):
it's going to be interesting to see how the markets are.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Going to react.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Also, you know, some a lot of some economists are
saying for this year it's already too late, right, that
orders have gone way down because of the terrorist's threats
of terroriffs, that kind of thing. So I'm not comfortable yet, Love,
each that was just.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Well, would you get comfortable? Be sure to let me know.
And if you kid continue to be uncomfortable, feel free
to always call the program and make whatever whatever point
you'd like to make. I was listening to one of
the newscasts today and there was I think there was
a poll that someone did. I kind of heard it
out of the corner of my ear and basically said

(01:22):
that Trump people couldn't understand why Trump was holding as
strong as he was. Uh. And someone said that they
did a deep analysis of the poll and they essentially
found out that the people who supported Donald Trump, you know,
didn't pay attention or it was basically trying to say
people supported Donald Trump was stupid. I just think that,
you know, that's you know, so, you know, We're three

(01:46):
months into four years of Donald Trump, and I'm just
saying that if you if you look at the Middle East,
if you look at the fact that he's on the
phone with Putin today. To the best of my note,
I don't know that Biden ever attempted to to push
Putin towards peace talks. I mean, I guess Putin can't

(02:08):
continue this war as long as he wants, but I'm
hopeful that at least he's talking to somebody.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
I mean, you know what, I'll back off on my
I'll say, listening to Trump this week, it sounds like
he's trying to give piece a chance to quote you.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
My argument has always.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Some singers from back in the day.

Speaker 6 (02:28):
I know who you are.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
I'm a baby boomer too. But what I was just
going to say, Dan, My final point I was just
going to say is my argument has been Trump has
been trying to get he's been trying to broke Ukraine surrender.
It has been my opinion, now that he's finally getting
irritated with Putin, maybe he'll be able to, you know,
make something happen. I don't see.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
I mean, I don't want to see World War III.
I'm not looking to witness the nuclear exchange between Russia
and the United States. It's okay. I just think it's
a weird deal going on over there. You've got Chinese
troops over there, You've got North Korean troops going on.
I don't think that most people realize what's going on
over there. That's all, you know.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
If China's yeah, I mean, the real problem I had
I've mentioned this year before, just that if if we
don't show strength, we don't support Ukraine one hundred and
ten percent. I mean, you've got to figure China's going
to go into Taiwan or at least that raises that risk.
So that's the other concern, right.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
But then the question, and again we could go on
all night, But then the question is wet show strength.
Do we put the eighty second Airport Airborne Division in there?
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
But Russia's paying an awful price. I mean, they are
losing more troops than Ukraine. We just stay with Ukraine,
stay the course and home.

Speaker 6 (03:50):
That would be enough.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
It's hurt China, all right, man, I got to run long,
long gone. Thank you so much, Dan, enjoyed. Tell you friends, Okay,
I have a great one ken okay, one line at
six one seven thirty. We have one couple of two lines.
Actually it's six one seven ninety. Jump on board. The
question is pretty simple. Do you get a sense that

(04:12):
the political wins have shifted a little bit in the
favor of Donald Trump? That's what I'm feeling. Maybe I'm wrong.
Let's see what Rick up in Dover, New Hampshire has
to say. Rick, welcome back, How are you?

Speaker 6 (04:25):
Hey? All right? How you doing damn good?

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Appreciate your patience holding through the news. You're up next,
go right ahead.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
Well, I think maybe Trump's starting to tone it down,
at least I hope so you know, I don't know
if he's just getting tired or old or whatever. But
I mean, I look at his pledge. You know, it's
all to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. And then

(04:58):
he says a national TV he doesn't know what the
Constitution says.

Speaker 7 (05:03):
So.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
He didn't quite say it that way. Rick, I mean,
I again, don't put me into the position where he
said he was asked for a definition of due process, okay,
and in answer to the question from an NBC News reporter,
he said, uh. And his answer was, actually, I thought

(05:25):
a pretty sophisticated answer, which was he has lawyers to
figure that out. And we've been through this before, not
you and me, but the phrase due process in the Constitution,
in the fifth and in the fourth and again in
the fourteenth Amendment talks about equal protection, due process before
the law, which are which are what all of us

(05:46):
would aspire to. But it doesn't mean that every human
being who happens to be standing on us oil has
the same level of due process. That's that's not what
he was trying to say.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
Okay, I can get that, But what I'm saying is,
wouldn't you ask your experts, your lawyers before you decide
to just go and do it. Oh well, at the
court figure it out afterwards. I don't care if it's legal.
I mean, what part of the oath doesn't he know?
He's supposed to find these things out before he just

(06:21):
goes and does something.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I guarantee you that he's had plenty of conversations with
his lawyers, and as a matter of fact, his Solicitor
General today secured what is a considered to be a
victory for the Trump administration at the US Supreme Court
dealing with the temporary protected status of Venezuela.

Speaker 6 (06:43):
I've got that, and I think that's well within his rights.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, that's all.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
I think that's fine. I agree with that. I'm just
saying I don't have much confidence of the guy that
takes an oath and doesn't know what's in the oath,
because maybe he didn't read the Constitution.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I suspect that.

Speaker 6 (07:02):
I kind of wonder.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
He has a passing familiarity with the constitutions. Okay, so look, look,
you're not a Trump guy, which is fine, Which is fine.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
I'm trying. I'm trying to be open minded, you know,
but I guess.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Let me ask you. Let me ask you a couple
of questions. Okay, let me ask you questions. Were you
happy that he was spending a couple of hours talking
to Putin today about Ukraine and Russia?

Speaker 6 (07:33):
If we only knew what he was talking about. Is
he talking about another playing or a golf course or
what is he talking about?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
That's well again, maybe he's talking with Putin about the
NFL draft coming. I mean, if you want to be serious.

Speaker 6 (07:51):
As long as it works. If it works, it works,
you know, got something done? Yeah, well all cheer on
that one.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Okay, Well nothing's been completed. But at least he's talking
to Putin about standing down? Okay, how much? How many
times did Joe Biden talk to Putin about what's going
on in Ukraine?

Speaker 6 (08:11):
I don't think he talked to him at all.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
You're correct, you're correct, No, you're correct, you're correct.

Speaker 6 (08:16):
You know you're correct.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
You're correct.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
You're a caller, and when I agree with you're on
a caller. You just talk to that us. Not standing
strong with Ukraine kind of opens the door and he
gives the okay to China to go ahead and grab Taiwan.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah okay, so so standing strong with Ukraine? What does
standing strong with Ukraine mean to you.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
Well, it means standing with the European Block and Europe
that basically saying we're going to stand with Ukraine.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
I mean, so what about if so? What about if?
What about if Zelinski calls you President Rick? It's says
President Rick, I know that you think you should stand
strong with us, and I need about twenty five thousand
members of the eighty second Earborne to parachute into my
country and get these Russian sobs out of here. Is

(09:14):
that standing strong with Ukraine? I think that's standing strong
with Ukraine. Do you think that's standing strong with Ukraine?

Speaker 6 (09:21):
Bob, Yeah, I'd have to say. I mean that's what
Churchill did, right, Churchill, that's nothing. Didn't want to get
into that war, but Churchill documento it.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Churchill didn't have much of a choice once. I look, let's.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
Stay with it.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
You know. Church it was the Germans were bombing the
heck out of London day and night. Yeah, okay, so
Churchill chose not to surrender. Churchill is sort of what
Zelensky is right now. He's not gonna surrender. But what again,
you're saying to me, we're gonna have standing strong, all right?
We should stand strong. So I'm asking you, Rick, let's

(10:03):
say tomorrow morning. Donald Trump said, I was listening to
Night Side last night in Boston, and Rick called and
said we should send twenty five thousand US eighty second
AMP one troops. Do you think that's a good idea, Rick.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
I wouldn't like to see it.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
I mean, oh good, okay, how about this, about this,
about this? How about if we decide, President Rick, I
got a great idea, let's stand strong with Ukraine. And
how about if we threaten we get you on the
phone with Putin tomorrow and you say to Putin, if
you don't end this war within seventy two hours, we're

(10:42):
gonna nuke Moscow. That'd be standing right. Okay, good enough.
So at least I've found something that President Rick, even
though you're ready to stand strong, will not do. President
Rick always always good to talk with the President. Rick.
We'll talk again. Okay, you have a good dud. Thanks,
good night. We take a break. Coming back on Night's.

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I got some lines six one, seven, two, five four
to ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty.
I just want to get a definition of due process
and standing strong. We'll be back on Nightside. Don't blame me.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WAZ Boston's
news radio All R.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Let's go to John and Framingham, John and freming him.

Speaker 7 (11:22):
Welcome back, John, Dan, Good evening, sir.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
How are you doing great? Doing great? What's your take?
I'm simply positing the theory that things in the last
couple of weeks have been going better for Donald Trump.
Just just a simple suggestion. I'm wondering if you agree
or disagree.

Speaker 7 (11:43):
No, I mean, I'll tell you I I certainly agree.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
I think you know, you.

Speaker 7 (11:47):
Had the Trump trade coming through the end of last
year into this year. As far as Walfree goes, that's
a lot of momentum moving forwards.

Speaker 8 (11:55):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (11:55):
Liberation Day didn't seem to help to too much or
with a following you know, subject went two and a
half through weeks. But but since then, man, I mean,
things have been things have been good. I want to
give President Rick a shout out from last ashon that
was pretty good.

Speaker 8 (12:08):
You know.

Speaker 7 (12:12):
Yeah, I get my ball room one day. I don't know,
we'll see, but uh yeah, man, I gotta say things
have been good. And I'll tell you I was at
the Red SOX game tonight, which which you know, put
the spark in my head. We were listening to on
the way home, you know.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
But you know, you hear, you know, a minutor.

Speaker 7 (12:27):
To a banter and you're like, okay, I'm not as
well die with phone.

Speaker 9 (12:29):
Uh you know, I forget that, I forget the gentleman's name,
but uh, there was it was a you know, whatever
was the hamas you hostage four hundred and seventy some
odd days, probably more they you were, you.

Speaker 7 (12:41):
Know, five hundred days or so. Yeah, you know, we
got there and through the opening pitch and you know,
I mean, oh, really about.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
So that the American Israeli hostage who was released about
a week ago, throughout the opening pitch tonight. Oh that's great.

Speaker 7 (12:55):
I can't I can't confirm it was it was that
particular one, but it was pretty recent, got to tell you.
And you know, young guy, handsome guy, and and threw
the pitch and just you know, everything, you know was
America pointing to the flag, hand over the heart.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
It was.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I was surprised how good the guy looked, and because
he's been there with the five hundred days and yeah,
as a matter of fact, that was in he actually
gave some credit. He said I wouldn't be here, not today.
But when he was released, he said he wouldn't be
here for it was of Donald Trump, right right.

Speaker 7 (13:27):
And that's what and that's what really makes you angry about.
I mean, it doesn't matter what year it is, doesn't
matter what presidential cycle we're talking about. Is come on, guys,
we're on the same team, you know. And I was
listening to a couple. I mean, I've been listening, as
you can tell, on the phone, for you know, twenty
some odd minutes. And okay, great, you know, Okay, people
hate Trump, people love Trump, but it doesn't end here.

(13:47):
It doesn't start here. It's gonna happen throughout time, and
we can just learn to get together and learn. Okay,
it doesn't matter who's in charge, but something good happens,
you know, clap my hand, so be it. I'm not
a Trump guy. I wasn't a Biden guy. I did
vote for Trump, but the other day, you know, doesn't
make a difference to me independent, you know, through and through.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
It was time. I think it was time for change.
And obviously I feel very sorry for what was disclosed
about President Biden in the last twenty four hours. Uh,
and clearly, uh, he was struggling and and the media
chose to ignore it for the last couple of years.
It was a tough couple of years. By the way,

(14:27):
it was interesting that, you know, the Mets who lost
tonight to the Red Sox, they had a pretty good
pitcher going for them who had an era of like
a buck and a half, and the Red Sox kind
of lit this guy up tonight. That's a pretty good
sign for the Red Sox tonight because they won three
to one. I like this Kick Dobbins who started. He

(14:50):
didn't get the win, but he's pitched like five or
six games now and he's you know, I don't know
where he came out of, but he wasn't considered it
is going to be in the starting rotation. How'd you
what does you feel about the Red Sox start at
the time, he only went four and two thirds and
didn't qualify for the win. But he's been pretty impressive

(15:11):
of this kid.

Speaker 7 (15:12):
Now, let me so, I'll tell you in so, I'm
not well, I mean I haven't followed, you know, religiously
last you know, half a dozen years. Uh, But I'll
give a quick shout out here, real quick. Uh So,
me and my my brother and my parents went down
to see the Red Sox mess game because they're all
die hard uh Sox fans, and my uncle who passed
in the fall was a die hard Mess fan from

(15:33):
Long Island, New York. Okay, So we said, what a
what a perfect game to go through. So shouts uncle Kim,
Well we miss your brother. Uh and he's up there
looking down at us right now and he's you're probably
clap in his hands as he passed. More of the election,
big Trump guy. But but so uh no, that's great.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
But well, it was nice to see the Red Sox
win and let him went at home.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
Let's do it.

Speaker 7 (15:54):
I was happy to see it.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
You got it? Hey? Have you called before, John or no?
The first time calling?

Speaker 7 (15:59):
I've called a longtime listener, second time caller, But it
wasn't you on the other end. It was back in September.
I don't remember where you were, but I called in
to talk about the economy and the election if that
was going to push and pull election votes.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
And I'm asking some of your callers. You sound like
you're a young guy.

Speaker 7 (16:16):
How will you twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Do me a favorite. I want you to make it
a point of listening more to nightside, and I want
to hear more from you. I mean that seriously. I
get a wide variety of callers, but I really want
to try to develop as many an audience of younger
young callers as well. So please, it's true.

Speaker 7 (16:37):
It's true. Absolutely, it's a little bit damn. Let me
ask you, what do you want to hear from me?
I can talk all night.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Well, any subject we talk about, I want to know.
Also what I want to hear from you also is
what topics are you interested in hearing about?

Speaker 5 (16:52):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 7 (16:53):
I'll tell you. So I work with a lot of
young I mean, I'm twenty seven, but you know I
work with young people compared to me professional you know,
I said, and won't disclose where I work, but you
know they're all postgraduates, professional careers in finance. And you
know I mean, and every time I listen in it
seems to you somehow, one way or another, get political.
I guess that's just like anything else these days.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
But well, you know, I think.

Speaker 7 (17:17):
I'll give you some undisclosed opinion, not undisclosed, but unwarranted
and unasked for. But I mean, you know, I guess
you look over history and the young people always want
to go and they want to be the contrarian. They
want to be you know, grunge or whatever you want
to call it, which which funny enough. I mean, this
could just be my opinion from from my point of view,

(17:37):
because you know, I'm I guess said twenty seven. Don't
have the news, don't have anything. Any news. I guess
from the radio is ten thirty if you a night
that when I'm driving. But I'll tell you from what
I see, you know, on the day to day is
I think young people who want to you know, prove
themselves to society as contrarians. I think I don't know
what happened in the last X number of years, but
everyone's everyone's talking about, you know, economies as economy that

(18:01):
you know, republican, that's republican, that farther than I am.
And like I said before, I'm not so you know
something to think about. I think I think it's it's
they love the underdog story. I think they want to be,
you know, whatever they think the most people aren't, frankly,
and in these days, I think it's you know, being
a Republican right, wrong or indifferent.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
So well, look, I appreciate it. And again, whatever subjects
that we have interest you, and we do politics, but
we don't do politics night after night after night. I
couldn't stand ding politics night after night after night. We
try to hit a variety of topics during the course
of the week, so that again we try to It's

(18:42):
it's like if you go to a steak place and
they only serve steak. After a while, you're gonna feel
like eating chicken and you're gonna go somewhere else. I
want to have a menu here that appeals to as
many people as possible. And I got to tell you, John,
I you know, I kind of I can't tell you much.
I appreciate that you take the time of call in tonight.

Speaker 7 (18:59):
I really may appreciate you doing what you do.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Thank you, buddy, talk to you soon. Thanks, have a
great one. That's a great call. That's a great call.
We'll take a break. It's eleven thirty. Ready for the news.
I got Tim, I got Patrick, Larry and Paul. Ladies.
Where are you tonight? Women?

Speaker 8 (19:15):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (19:16):
One of our best callers tonight was Lauren from Plymouth, ladies,
light it up, coming back on Nightside.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
You're on night Side with Ray on WA Boston's news radio.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Let's keep rolling, Gonna go to Tim and Wilburn, Tim
next to Nightsick, go right ahead, Tim.

Speaker 6 (19:33):
Thanks you taking my call, Dan Beny. I haven't take
my hat off to Trump for uh dealing with Putin.
He's trying, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
I mean, Putin's a tough tough nut to crack, but
maybe he can convince him that it's in his country's
it's interest to stand down. And if he does that,
you gotta give him credit. I mean, at least he's
trying to he's trying to talk to him. He did
spend two hours today. That's a that's a lot of time,
A lot of time.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
A lot of times.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
I don't think Biden has done that.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
No, No, I don't believe Biden ever talked to Putin
during his four years in the White House. I think
that he watched as Putin, uh, you know, amassed his
troops on the border. I think that Biden Biden said
to him President former President Biden said don't do this,
don't do this, and Putin did it. And I don't

(20:28):
think that they ever had you know President Biden has
Former President Biden had his trips to Europe and talked
with the NATO people and all of that, made a
trip to Kiev, he went to remember, he took that
train trip, but never engaged with Putin. And again, I
think that even if he's a bad guy, I'd rather
talk to him and see if you could, if you

(20:50):
could figure out what he's thinking.

Speaker 6 (20:52):
I mean, yeah, I think Trump is a smart guy.
He's smart.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Well he I think that in terms of this what
he's endured. Uh, he's certainly been tested. Uh. And let's see,
let's see where we are. I think that in the
last few weeks the political wins have kind of shifted
in his direction. Now they may shift out.

Speaker 6 (21:17):
Without a doubt, without a doubt, I think too, you
give them a little time. I think the gas only
price is going to come down. I think things are
going to get better.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
I would hope so, for all of our sakes, that's all, man.
I'm root for things to get better. Whoever's in the world,
who's ever in the White House. I want I want
my gas prices lower. I want people to be able
to buy homes and want all of that. That's what
that's what the country's about. Tim. Thanks.

Speaker 6 (21:47):
I want the gas prices.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Lower and the food lower. Same. Same, We're in the
same page, absolutely, Tim, Thank you much. My friend will
talk soon. Okay, thank you again.

Speaker 6 (21:58):
Thanks for the uh you.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Bet you Let me go to Patrick and chops down
Patrick next on nightside.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
Go ahead?

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Hey, how you doing, Dan?

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Hey, sounds like you're outside tonight. You are outside?

Speaker 4 (22:10):
No, no, no, no, I'm sitting on my phone.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
Man.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
Well, maybe it was maybe a course to speak a
button by accent and hamming out perfectly perfectly.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah, it sounded like there was wind blowing. I thought
you might have been out.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
I have a fan at my desk when I'm working
late at night, man, So I always I always have
an artist me cool manead Yes, uh so, just this
isn't my main point, but just just that that older
gentleman seemed like a really nice guy who.

Speaker 6 (22:36):
Called the one thing.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
It always bothers me when people bring up the statement
on the Statue of Liberty about you know, give us
you're tired, and you're poor and and all that stuff.
It always bothers me as that as a means to
end a debate, as a means to forestall and preclude
any debate on immigration that for now on. When we
invoke that, anyone who invokes that ten to just be

(23:00):
of the mindset. But that means that we can't have
any reasonable restrictions on immigration whatsoever, or we are just
terrible people. It doesn't preclude us from debating having an
immigration debate.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
It doesn't.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
So that's that's the first thing I said.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
I agree with you. And also, by the way, I
remind people that President Obama was characterized as the Great
Deporter because he deported somewhere around three million people during
his term in office.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
And however devisive President Obama's administration was in certain ways,
I actually have some respect for the guy. He actually
did a lot of reasonable things, to be honest with
Yet I'm not a Democrat, but one of them I
just wanted to. Uh So, second thing, you asked if
the political wills, the wins would change it, right, I
almost believe that that was more of a statement than

(23:52):
a question. And I agree with you that they are,
and you can tell with this key things that show
us that they are. Number One, Maura Healey. Maura Healey
is proud and she's she's she's actually publicly proclaiming how
it is a good thing that she's doing something to
shut migrant shelters. That was impossible two years ago for

(24:15):
a Democrat to say. Second, off, this is going national.
Trump is a he's a historical figure. Keer Starmer, a
radical left winger in England, in a paper, a paper
from newsweek three days ago, says that they're worried about
him using Trumpian language. He's starting to talk about enforcing
borders in in in the United Kingdom for the first

(24:36):
time in a long time. So the winds changed and absolutely,
and uh, you know, you know if people criticize this guy,
you know, I was a readonauticle.

Speaker 8 (24:45):
From the New York Times Dan and it was it.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
Was about Portland, Maine, so it sort of hit close
to home a little bit for us. We knew England
and says that sentinel death slow meth comes from Maine.
So this is how this honest the New York Times
is right. So what they do is they bury in
this article they focus on how meth is rising. Right,
And if you read in the third paragraph that it

(25:10):
says in Portland, where the fentanyl has become increasingly diluted
and costly it's the first sentence of the third paragraph,
which clearly shows that Trump's shutting down on the border
has stopped the fentanyl trade into the United States and
is saving lives by the thousands. The New York Times,

(25:30):
instead of saying that, says meth is rising in Portland.
So if you think tides are changing, man, I don't
know that you're I think you're right, and I think
it's for the best man.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
By the way, and when you refer to the Prime
Minister of England, it's important to make note of the
fact that he's a Labor Party prime minister. He's not
a Conservative or Tory.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
That makes it even more amazing.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Exactly, exactly, Patch, Thank you much of great content, and
thank you very much for joining us tonight. And uh
and keep it. How old are you Patrick?

Speaker 4 (26:06):
I'm how old are you?

Speaker 8 (26:09):
Ben?

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Uh? Don't tell me you're anywhere close to my age.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Probably ten or fifteen years shy you, man, I told
you when I was doing my l L m APU,
I used to see a picture on the wall, so
a little while, but not to the seventh or eighth floor,
I can't remember, but I think it was.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I think I was on the I was on the
wall with Ed Brooke, uh and and and Cohen, Senator Cohen,
Bill Cohen.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
That Olympian guy uh so. So the one last thing
before I go, Dan, if you, if I may, Dan,
I just an idea came across my head. Dan, why
don't you call have your your producer called the Russian Embassy. Dan,
you're an influential guy. Maybe Putin will come on your show, man,
Maybe you'll come on your show. Maybe you're you're have
more power than you realize. A lot of influential people

(26:59):
listening to you.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Man, Well, I appreciate that. The problem is there's going
to be a lot of it. I don't think his
English is too too good, and my Russians the only
word in Russia I know in Russian.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Is yet, Dan, you've dealt with a lot more, a
lot more dangerous guys than him, I think. I don't
think it would be much of a stuff for you
to do this.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
I know, I know the guys. I know the guys.
I know the guys you're talking about, and they were
they were ex FBI agents who had guns and badges
and were willing to use them for the wrong reasons.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Yeah, criminals with badges.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Thank you, damn thanks Bell, thanks Patrick, appreciate it very much.
LLM bu but take a no, I got a couple
of open lines. Now fail me not, folks six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty and six one seven ninety. We've had a
great night here, so let's finish with a bang. Gonna
go to Angelo and Newton, my friend Angelo, Angelo, welcome back, Angelo,

(27:57):
Thank you again.

Speaker 8 (27:58):
I hope he will be able to hand me.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Ye know what, what do you got some lary gititis
going on there?

Speaker 8 (28:03):
No, I got some health issues. I got a m Yeah,
they'll p It's a different reflex I have coming on.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
The Okay, a lot of my voice for a couple
of years.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Okay, well you go ahead, God, go ahead. I'll listen
to what you gotta say. Go ahead, Angelo, take your time.

Speaker 8 (28:22):
Did I hear you saying that they that they wanted
to let the the what is the ven Whalen come
in here?

Speaker 2 (28:30):
No? No, no, no, no no no. What happened today?

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Sorry?

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Then, but the US Supreme Court ruled today. They they
basically said that Trump could could get rid of the
the temporary protective status that had been extended to about
three hundred and fifty thousand venice whalens. Temporary protected status

(28:56):
meant that none of those people could have been deported
as long as temporary protective status existed. UH protected status.
And as a consequence, those people now can be can
be deported. The case in chief, that is still going
to be decided at some point. We'll have to see

(29:18):
how that how that gets resolved. But yeah, that's we're
talking about.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
It was.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
It was a victory. It was a victory for the
Trump administration at the US Supreme Court today, And I
simply was poisoning the argument or the hypotheses that he
just had a pretty good trip in the Middle East.
He was on the phone with Putin for a couple
of hours today. Uh, the border situation seems to have

(29:45):
gotten a lot better than it was so and then
I just felt the political wins were kind of shifting
in his direction. That's the whole conversation.

Speaker 8 (29:55):
Yeah, you know, if they want to come in, they
should be legal, like everybody else came in. This kind
of illegal again.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
You know, when.

Speaker 8 (30:03):
Everybody came here from the long las Islum, they had
to go through a lot, a lot.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
They certainly did. They certainly did. I want you to
rest your voice. Angela, give me a call back next
week and you're gonna feel better.

Speaker 8 (30:16):
Okay, thank you, Dan, You have a good event.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Take care, Anchel'll have a great night. We'll take a break.
I got some wide open lines. Come on, let's go
six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty one line
at six one, seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. I
got Laurie coming up on the other side of the break,
and I got some room for you. Let's finish this
thing strong tonight. My theory is that in the last
two or three weeks, stock markets come back. Things are

(30:43):
going a little bit better. The political wins. The political
wins are now shifting a little bit towards in favor
of Donald Trump. You don't have to agree with me.
You can agree or disagree, disagree, make your arguments. We'll
be back on Night's side right after this very quick break.
It's eleven forty five. I got room for you. Give

(31:04):
us a call, coming back on Night.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Snid Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w BZY Boston's
News Radio.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
OHR, I gonna go to Laurie and Melroy's. I know
what will happen. There'll be about four people that are
gonna call in the next two minutes and only one
or two will get on. We got wide open lines six, one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty, six, one, seven, nine, three, ten thirty. Let
me talk with Laurie and Melrose. Hey, Laurie, welcome back.

Speaker 10 (31:31):
How are you okay?

Speaker 8 (31:33):
Hi?

Speaker 10 (31:34):
I am just very annoyed with all of us because Trump.
Trump has been a fool with Putin for a long
time and he's not exactly doing much at all. He'll
call Putin and the people. I can't think of his name,
but you know who he is, the Senator Conrad, very
conservative southern Southerner. That's all for Trump. He knows that

(31:58):
he has stated that Putin is it can't be true.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
I assume you might be talking about Lindsey Graham.

Speaker 10 (32:03):
Is that from I've been a republic in all my life,
work for two national and local Republican I do not
care for Trump. Trump has got a big ego and.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
He's no doubt about that, there's no question, but promises.

Speaker 10 (32:21):
And a lot of other things. And I'm sorry, but
I don't like this happening has had happened in Gaza,
with all the four children that have died and in
the famine that's going on right now, and he's not.
I don't see any progress with him working on the
Israel Primary minister to get food in there for the

(32:42):
national associations. I don't believe that he. I think he's
is foolish and he's got that ego. He wants the
real estate, he wants the God. Even he's stated over
God could kick people out, take it over and make
it into resort. His a lot of gold. But still
it's like he's going to take over Canada and all

(33:04):
these different things. Why do they focus on real issues
and be a.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Real Let me, let me, let me engage you with
a conversation if I could. He I think has pretty
much effectively closed the border. Is that something that you
applaud or something you think is a mistake.

Speaker 10 (33:25):
Oh, I think I think that that has been But
I'm they're saying all him, he's exactly doing it by
a lot of threats. I would have preferred the Congress
to get to have gotten together and finally you get
some strong policy or give you a chance to figure

(33:48):
out what you think. And he he shut it down
because he didn't want. He didn't want He's afraid that
the Democrats would get credit for it, so he shut
it down.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
For a second, I'm trying to understand you. Okay, would
you agree with me that for four years under the
Biden administration the border was in effect wide open?

Speaker 10 (34:12):
Yes, just a scab on somebody else back now in
the politics we're talking about now today.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Well, that's exactly what I'm talking Worry what I'm trying
to get at, Laurie. But I'm here's what I'm trying
to get at. He has been president the second time
for three months. So yes, So my question to you
is the border now seems to be secure because of
policies he put in place, and people are not coming

(34:43):
over the border. Oh I'm sure there's a few, but
they're not coming over the border at the pace they
were coming over.

Speaker 10 (34:50):
So yes, that's nice.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
That's a good thing.

Speaker 10 (34:53):
There are other issues that are very bad. I don't
like to see thousands of children discovering to death, okay,
and Gaza. I do not like to see children that
have been kidnapped in Ukraine. That doesn't get mentioned very often.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
So let me ask you what would you have him do.

Speaker 10 (35:13):
I wouldn't think too much as he can do because
he's been kissing Putin's you.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Know, no, we're talking guy for a long time. He
likes Laury.

Speaker 10 (35:25):
He thinks Putin liked him.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
I'm desperately trying to have a conversation with Laurie here
without much success. Laurie, what would you have Trump do
about Gaza?

Speaker 10 (35:39):
Have the Gaza try to get the all this trucks
and all the recent sources that are there to let
them in. These four doctors will if you hear the news,
the doctors and everything else is now he's going and bombing.
You know, more children have been He's probably like twenty
thousand kids have been killed. And then you got now

(36:01):
seventeen thousand. Okay, sorry, I know two thousand and six
that was not I mean, you know so October sixth
that was wrong. It was horrible, but it's not their fault.
It's not the average woman.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
So then I'll ask you this if I can. What
should have net Nyaho done? Since it was net Yahoo
who was fighting Hamas? Do you I assume you don't
agree what what Yahoo was done?

Speaker 10 (36:30):
Don't No, I didn't. I just said I did not
agree with that, and obviously nobody will.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
What should have he done? Should have he waved a
white flag and said, Hamas, please don't do that again.

Speaker 10 (36:40):
But he hasn't. He hasn't he had any consideration for
the people. He's just he's using it as an excuse
to go in even when he's gone in what should
have done, Laurie, Laurie, people's homes.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
And kill I've enjoyed this conversation thoroughly and ippreciate it.
I hope you'll call back again and we can continue
a good conversation. Thank you very much. Let me go
to John in New York. John, save me, John, welcome.
You're next on Night Side. John.

Speaker 8 (37:14):
I'm on that.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
I'm on this quick already.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Let me tell you should have called earlier. Go ahead, John,
what's on your mind? Yeah? I know.

Speaker 6 (37:25):
I always called the last minute because that's when I'm
in the car going down the road.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
You know, okay, but we're running out of last minutes. Here,
go ahead, I know.

Speaker 6 (37:33):
Are you ready for a joke.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
I'm not sure, John, but give it a shot.

Speaker 6 (37:39):
One of my thoughts when you I didn't know this,
you're you're a newscaster. Two. In addition to a talk
show host, I worked wh.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Whoa, whoa, whoa?

Speaker 2 (37:47):
I worked for thirty one years for the CBS affiliate
in Boston WBCTV. I was an investigative reporter. Go right ahead.

Speaker 11 (37:58):
I know I read about that, but you're still You're
still doing it on your show. Also, you know you
haven't you haven't lost the touch. You're very good at it.

Speaker 6 (38:07):
Anyhow, go ahead, when.

Speaker 11 (38:09):
You're talking about Trump talking to Putin for two hours,
I think you know what a smart guy Donald is.
I'm a businessman.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
He is.

Speaker 11 (38:21):
I think he was taught not only the whole purpose
of the call, but he might have mentioned that, Hey, pal,
if you give me a building permit to put a
gigantic hotel up in Moscow, I'll make a deal with you.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
I think that would be a little blatant. But I
don't know if that's a joke or if that's what
you really believe.

Speaker 6 (38:42):
I'm just kidding around.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
I know you're called lady. Got a call earlier. I
got to get one more in here, Okay, man, But
I appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
Yeah, I'm right.

Speaker 11 (38:55):
Yeah, thank you very much for taking my call. Have
a good night, and I'll speak to you later on something.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
All right, Thanks John, to talk to you soon. Ed
in Worcester, Ed you're late. I got you for a minute.
You go right.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
Ahead, Okay. I had to stop drafting my articles of
impeachment for President Rick to call in and remind everybody
of one of Rush Limbaugh's nostrums, which is, and this
is in regard to your caller, Laurie there from a
minute ago. Yep, anytime somebody calls into a talk show
and identifies themselves as a conservative or Republican, they're a fraud. No,

(39:30):
they're not.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Well, there was a lot of self identification there, but
I was able to get her finally to say that
what Trump did on the border was kind of okay, just.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
Kind of yeah, she's a Bernie Sanders Republican.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
That's the way that they're a Bernie Sanders Republican's Ed.
I love it, you know what. I'm ending the show
on a on a smile with you. Man. I really
appreciate that call. I really do you almost read my mind.
If you get my drift, then I think begs Ed
talk soon.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
Okaye, man, all right, we're.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Done for that night, Rob Brooks, great job. I want
to take all the callers, particularly the new callers and
the young callers and the older callers. I thank all
the callers. Thank you very much for joining us. For
those of you who listened, whether you were driving home
for the Red Sox game or you listen for all
four hours, I appreciate you very much. Done for the night.
I want to thank Marita as well. Been a long day.

(40:28):
All dogs, all cats, all pets going to have That's YPL.
Charlie Rails who passed fifteen years ago in February. That's
all your pets are who have passed. They loved you
and you love them. I do believe you're going to
see them again. I hope to see again Tomorrow night
at Night SID I will be on Facebook Night's Hour
with Dan Ray in about two minutes. Join me there
and I'll tell you what I really think. Have a
great Wednesday or great Tuesday everyone, then, have a great Wednesday,
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