August 15, 2025 • 38 mins
President Trump heads to Alaska Friday for a meeting with Russian President Putin, with hopes of finding a way to end the war in Ukraine. The White House has called this meeting a "listening exercise," and Trump has said he plans to assess whether any type of peace deal can be made. We discussed this breaking news summit between Trump and Putin.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's night sign with Dan Ray WBZ Coustin's new radio.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Well, there wasn't much which i'd call good news in
Alaska but the Red Sox one. So anyway, we're back.
We are talking about the Putin Trump summit today at Anchorage, Alaska,
at a US military base. I watched it throughout the day.
(00:32):
I watched the statements that was that were made after
the three hour meeting. I played those statements in their
entirety for you at the beginning of the nine o'clock hour. Again.
If there was an agreement, don't know why it wasn't shared.
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They danced around it. That's that's how it looks to me. Now.
If you're a Trump supporter and you think that he
had a great day in Alaska, bring it on. If
you are not a Trump supporter, and we've heard from some,
bring it on. I'm in the middle here. If what
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I'm essentially saying is I want to see what happens
tonight tomorrow. Will the bombing of Ukraine by Russia? Continue?
If it does, that says to me that there's nothing
that came out of this that was good. I did
read a piece that said it is now up to
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Putin and Zelinsky to work out the arrangements. It's almost
as if the president, President Trump, our president, is stepping away.
That does not sound good because obviously Putin and Zelinsky
hate one another. There is absolutely no love loss between them.
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They they despise each other. Okay, so look, there were
some nice pictures. I get it. There were some nice words.
I get it. But I, as a guy who normally
sees the glasses half full, see nothing of substance. Six one, seven, two, five,
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four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
I will remind you that I'm off the next couple
of weeks, a little bit of stay at home vacation,
not going anywhere and not doing anything exciting, just trying
to relax and catch up the final good days of August.
So I will miss all of you, but I will
be back the day after Labor Day. In the meantime,
(02:46):
I believe Bradley J. Will be sitting in for me.
I think Morgan is in on Labor Day night. Please
treat both of them kindly. I appreciate that they're available
so I can get a vacation day or two, and
that is why I will be doing so I will
miss all of you, but I will be thinking of you,
and we will talk upon my return, or better yet,
(03:07):
we'll talk tonight. I got some open lines, let's fill
them up. We have the twentieth hour coming up. Haven't
figured out what I'm going to do in that, but
I would like to finish off with your perspective of
what happened today. I think the fundamental mistake was that
there was no groundwork. There was no staff work done,
so there was nothing completed that. I mean, they could
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have walked out of there with an agreement that they
agreed that they're in favor of good weather. I mean,
I'm being facetious when I say that, but they could
have had something that they could have come out of
there with and said, we have agreed. This is the
first step. There were more steps to go, but at
least we have taken the first step together here in Anchorage.
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The stagecraft, the setup was amazing, the proximity of the planes,
carpet arrival, the handshakes and all of that. But to
have what is billed as a press conference and there
are no questions. Oh, there were shouted questions, but no questions,
no answers. As a half glass as a half glassful guy,
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I'm doing I'm still looking and I'm not finding anything.
So light the lines up, let's go to the call
is gonna go to. We just had a couple of
folks drop off too bad. Here goes Jeff and Abbington. Jeff,
welcome back. How are you, sir?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Never been better?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Never been better? Well I'm happy to hear that, because
I'm confused. Maybe you can help me understand what we've
just witnessed.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Well, let's take it from this perspective.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Why should we care?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Why should we care? Oh, I'll tell you why why
we should care? The two men who met today are
leaders of the country around the two countries around the
world with the largest nuclear arsenals. That's number one. We
also should care. The fact that Russia has pummeled a
neighbor for now three and a half years, and hundreds
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of thousands of soldiers, military military personnel on both sides
and innocent men, women and children.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Well, that happens in every war.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
We can still care. I mean, do you not care
about what happens in parts of you?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Know?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
You and I are lucky of Jeff. I think you
would agree with me on this that we live in
a country that doesn't have nearly the amount of that.
We have our problems, but we don't have the amount
of problems that people have who live in places like
the Congo, the Sudan.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
There's what's going on and they are always constant.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Well there are and there's always sitting. If let me
ask you this, If you hear about one of your
neighbors who you don't really know, who live a couple
of blocks away in Abington and there's just been gotten
a terminal diagnosis stage for this or stage four that,
do you not care?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Of course I care?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Oh, so you care about the people who live in Abington.
What about people maybe who live in one of the
neighboring community like Brockton. Do you care about people there?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I grew up in Brockton.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well, of course you care about Brockton. Do you care
about people? Do you care about people in Kansas? Do
you care about people in Canada? Do you care about
any other group of people around the world.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I can't solve the world's problems.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I understand that. I do understand that. But you can
still care about the world's problem.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
Okay, what's all care?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
But what that doesn't call.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Europe has been a mess. Russia has been a mess
for one hundred years. Napoleon ark was World War One.
Wilson gunners in the World War Napoleon.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, hold on, Napoleon had a tough time in Russia.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
If you're a club.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Only, Yeah, you know why, because the Russian went to
saving no.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I understand that. Yeah. I'm a student of history, Jeff,
Believe me, I'm pretty good at some of this stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Well, sometimes a lot of stuff too.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Well. Will you catch me that I'm wrong on something factually?
Please let me know, because when I catch myself and
I'm wrong on something factually, I actually correct myself in
the ear. And in a matter of fact, I want
to correct myself for your benefit of something I said
last night Mike Mussina, the great Orioles and Yankee pitcher
who grew up in Williamsport, Pennsylvania. I was interviewing the
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kids from Braintree who are playing tomorrow to keep their
hopes alive, and I said he should be in the
Hall of Fame. I was mistaken. Musina is in the
Hall of Fame, great pitcher for the Yankees and the Orioles.
So I like to correct myself when I'm factually wrong.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I don't think he ever won twenty games.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Uh, you know what, he may never have won twenty games,
but cumulatively, he pitched for about eighteen years. He won
a lot of games. I'll look up his lifetime record
at some point and uh, I'll let you know what
it was. His lifetime record is good enough to get
into the Hall of Fame, and it probably has to
have been at least two hundred wins, because that's kind
of the threshold. A lot of guys who matter of
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facturre it's more the threshold is more like two eighty actually,
but go ahead.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Gid was a better picture than who gidri.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Not for the same length of time.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
No, not for the same length of time.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
That's that's that's that's how you well. Yeah, there are
guys who were dominant for two or three years. There's no,
no doubt about that, no question about that.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Andy Kofax was in the Hall of Fame. He didn't
win two hundred.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Games, no, but he was. He was dominant. You've seen them.
Won two hundred and seventy games in his career, not
a bad record.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And Erry won three hundred.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Hall of fame, and by the way you've seen it,
did win twenty he won twenty uh in his last
season with the Yankees, went went out a pretty good pitcher. Anyway,
That's not why you called as always, Jeff. It's an
interesting confient station. We do wend our way through other topics.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
But has been a mess forever and we've been sending
American boys.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
To die over there for the last hundred years.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Why don't the Brits, the Polls, the French and the
Germans send boots on the ground.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
And don't know what the value of that conversation is
telling you, you're not giving me anything that I don't
know or anything that I yours. We bailed out Europe,
you bet you. We bailed out hero because if we
didn't bail out Europe, you and I'm at a grown
up speaking German, Jeff, Thank God for the greatest generation.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Now we're told we're not great in anything, as far
as the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Going to come back to that, isn't it, Jeff? No problem? Hey, Jeff,
have a great weekend. I'll miss you.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I'll talk to you a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, that's right, Yeah, how about that one. Let's see
Jeff Pye. Man, wouldn't you Jeff's such an upbeat, positive guy. Man,
How would you like to be his next door neighbor?
How would you like to be married to him? Ladies
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proof Anyway, back on night Side and more phone calls
the lines of light up my buddy Dallas in Ohio,
who's a much more positive guy. Who's going to be
next so we will have an antidote to Jeff's negativity.
Coming back on night Side.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
All right, we have changed our show around. Tonight. We're
going to talk about the efforts of the Boston bomber
number two to continue to avoid the death penalty. I'll
get back to that at some point, I'm sure in September.
But the story tonight is too important, not only for us,
but for the Ukrainian people and frankly for the whole
concept of world peace. Again. I'm trying to find out
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if there's any military action tonight in Ukraine, any Russian
military action, and maybe I'll find out before the end
of the show, but that will be an interesting I
think that will be an interesting development of a non development.
Let me go to Dallas in Ohio. Hey Dallas, welcome back.
Thanks very much. I'll always nice to talk with you.
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Go right ahead, Dallas, Dallas, we lost him. We lost
them there, Dallas. You must have had us on. You
must have hit a button. So call us back there
he is, Okay, he's back. Let's get him back up here, Rob.
Tell him I'm going to take him right away. Dallas,
I got you to go right ahead. How are you, sir?
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Good evening, Dan, And hello Boston.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I'm guessing you had us on speakerphone and when I
said hello, you hit the wrong button. Am I right
or wrong?
Speaker 5 (11:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
What happened? Just quest.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
It must have been because I didn't touch anything. Yeah,
I uh, I was expecting something to come of the
meeting this afternoon. But I kind of think that cut
and put the rasmetas on Trump when he went into
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that meeting, and we just.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Lost We just lost him again there, Rob, what he
calls back, Tell him we got it. He must have
some some problem there. He is, okay, put him back
on him. Just gonna give him the warning real quickly.
All right, Dallas, you're very quick, but we lost you twice.
I don't know what's going on with your phone. It's
not us.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Yeah, what I was saying was I did watch the
uh uh the meeting UH today. But I really like,
like I said earlier, I think that uh Pewtin got
in there and laid rasmatas on on Trump. You know,
and you know Trump is looking for uh to be
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a candidate for the Nobel pre Peace Prize.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
And yeah, well he I mean he's he certainly has.
He has been able to be involved in some cessations
of violence. He India, Pakistan, was that, Cambodia, in Thailand,
uh azure Bazan, uh and Armenia. So he's done some
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work there and and I think that, believe it or not,
the biggest thing that he's done for for world peace
was taken out the Iranian nuclear power nuclear site. I mean,
little little there, but but really, I mean, if they
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had ever gotten the bomb, man, they they would have
they would have thrown some of those those babies around
pretty pretty uh, pretty liberally.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Without a doubt, without a doubt, without a doubt. But
you know, sometimes I kind of think that uh President
Trump doesn't realize who he's dealing with when it comes
to put and Putin is h he's a ruthless man
and his uh clydstint workings go go back a long way.
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And you know, I'm reminded of that high ranking military
fellow that worked with the Russian Army that mysteriously was
killed in a plane crash.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Mmmm. Oh, well he was the guy. He was the
guy out of Belarus. He was he was a we
know what happened was that plane crash? Uh. He was
a guy who was actually mark. He had a he
had an army which was like the Hessians uh and
uh that they basically were hired guns. And he had
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a falling out with Putin and he decided it would
be a great idea to march on Moscow and uh
and topple Putin and Uh. That didn't quite work out
for him, and they sent him to Belarus.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
And then he made the mistake of getting on an airplane,
which blew up. I know who you're talking about. I
can't remember his name at the moment, I should have
it at the top of my mind, but I know
who you're talking about. Yeah, I mean, a lot of
people disappeared under Putin, and you know he's he's he's
not a nice guy.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
No not at all. And then you know that you know,
we he passed a KGB experience and you know.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's a KGB operative always a KGB operative or.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
I'm telling you gee whizz uh yeah. But but you know,
the real proof of the pudding will be if some
military action gets started tonight or sometime early tomorrow, uh
by the Russians.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
You know.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Yeah, that's the scene. That's the only thing. Uh. But
I know everyone is tired, you know, the war, but uh,
time will tell what will take place.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah. The guy was who was killed was Uvenni Prosognin
I think was the name, uh u Veny use Venny Prosogsen. Yeah,
and uh uh that will that's that. That's was all
they wrote for that guy. So you know, you you
don't want to be inside Russia and become an enemy
of Putin, that's for sure. And no, you know, when
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when I heard that he had a bad medical diagnosis
a couple of years ago, I was saying, please God,
you know, take them out there. You know that prayer
went on answered. Thanks Dallas, we talk, Yeah, we'll talk soon,
my friend. Thanks so much for calling and always great
to you.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Okay, thanks vacation, I will You're.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Not doing much, that's for sure. Coming back on night Side.
We got the news at the bottom of the hour,
one line at six one, seven, ten thirty.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Coming right back, It's night Side, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Let's get to the phones. We got full lines with
for which I'm very gratified. Let me go next to
Jay in New Hampshire. Jay, you're next on Nightside.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Go right ahead again, Hi, J. The takeaway I get here,
uh from this meeting today is a positive one. I mean,
I mean, uh, it's it's a lot better than than
the Biden talk already. You know, uh what.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
What Biden talks? What whoa whoa whoa what Biden talks
ever met?
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Yes, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I just wanted to make sure that your subtlety was
not missed by anyone.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Go ahead, No, I appreciate it. Yeah, I mean, you know,
no one should be expecting miracles here. I mean you've
been kind of critical tonight of it, and I mean
I understand why, But I mean this is going to
be a real grind, a real cat in most game,
I'm not sure what's going to happen. It's jump to
pull it off. But I you know what I appreciate
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this guy. He's working his tail off on it, you know.
I mean, that's a beautiful thing to me. That's that's
firing away better than anything we've had in a long
time in my mind.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Look, I'll give him an a for effort for trying. Absolutely,
But but I'm just looking at it was a weird
ending tonight, which if let's say President Trump had been
upset and he left after an hour and he got
on a plane and away and there was no pret
those news conference, but they held a press conference they
had held was build as a press conference and took
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no questions. That's significant, is what I'm trying to say.
It's like if you go to the doctor's office and
the doctor says, oh, i'll let you know how your
test results come out in a couple of days, and
you call the office to get and they said, we
don't have much comment on your test results. Really, you know, yeah,
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what are you talking about? Well, we just don't want
to talk about it. Well, if they go to bed, please,
we have no comment. What's going on?
Speaker 6 (19:38):
You're saying, I hear you, But listen, you know this,
I mean this is high stakes. We're going to be
the last ones to know if there's anything substantial, And
that's probably the.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Way I'll tell you by tomorrow. If if you if
if Russia holds off for a couple of days and
doesn't hit Ukraine, then I'll feel a little better. But
if if, if, if Russia fires a whole bunch of
missiles in on you know, civilian buildings and schools and
hospitals into Ukraine, I'll think nothing came of this. It
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was a photo op and nothing more.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, he's got to go
through the motions. You know, he's got to make the
attempts to killing each other out. It's probably a little
bit of a boxing match. And I'm telling you, I
mean Trump he seems more invested in this than than
I kind of expected. And that's not going to be good.
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If if Poo keeps on wasting his time playing around.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
You know, you know, well here's here's right now, CNN
has a headline, a bottom third headline that says Trump
says striking a Russia deal now is up to Zolenski.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
I heard you say that earlier. Yeah I didn't see that,
but I heard you mentioned it a few minutes back.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Right, But the point at the point is it's on
CNN right now, and uh no, you know, is is
he serious? That is a lins What's what's he going
to say? Does Alinsky go in and get him Tiger?
I mean, you know, Zilinsky's you know, he would have
to be brought understandably so kicking and screaming. What sort
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of a deal? What sort of leverage does Lensky have
on Putin? At this point? I don't think much.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you know, hey, it's a it's
a chess match. I mean I think probably probably they
went in there and Trump knew Buten was going to
be jerking him around a little bit again and from
him on and and and you know, he's probably gonna
step back and maybe uprate from behind the scenes a
little more. And but I I think he's invested. I
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think he's gonna henna.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
He would love to see a piece deal. Uh And
I'm sure part of his if you'm piding the term
his lust for a eel here is he'd get a
Nobel Peace Prize. I mean, there's no way that he
could be prevented if somehow, some way he was perceived
as the guy who broke with the deal between Russia
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and Ukraine or between Putin and the Lensky. So there's
a little bit of self interest in it, which is fine.
If he can do it, I'll vote for him as well.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
But I think but the thing with him is he
he you know what I love about him is that
wild todd factor with him is he could he can.
He could just as easy blow that up in a minute.
I mean he could really move aggressively, aggressively against Putent too.
I could see that.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
You gotta be love careful of that one. All right, Jason,
So you're more optimistic than I am, essentially, I got you.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Yeah, yeah, I mean things are happening, all right, let's.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
See what happens. Thanks Bell, appreciate the call. All right,
all right, right back, catch you. Let me go too.
Daniel in Leicster, Daniel, you were next on nice I
go ahead, But Andrey, Yeah, I'm all right, thank you.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
I am. I just want to say, you know, to
sympathize with you. It's not easy mediating between people of
different genus and spiritual and philosophical or whatever. I'm referring
to the gentlemen who are who's who was, who didn't
learn the lesson at lared when I was twelve years older,
when I first went away away from home three huny
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miles into a boarding school, and I was told this obsessiveness.
But I don't care. I don't care. I don't I
don't give up this or that's that. No, don't do that,
because you have to be a good name. And you
have to care even even somebody, even something, even someone
you don't like.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
You know, you have to care that they find out
what it is that they know that they can tell
you what they what is they don't like about you,
or maybe find out that they were wrong about you.
It'sliking you or it's liking somebody else.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But you have you have to care about the Ukrainian people.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
And I don't care about the history at this point,
but when you see these kids. As a matter of
fact that today it's being reported that President Trump had
a letter that Milania Trump sent uh and the President
Trump he had delivered the letter to Vladimir Putin from
his wife Milania speaking on behalf of Ukrainian children who
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apparently have been kidnapped and taken into Russia. I've heard
that story before, that literally, you know, that there have
been Russian troops that have kidnapped Ukrainian kids, little kids,
and missus Trump penned a letter to Putin and asked
him to address that. And I guess what Russia is
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saying is they're protecting the children. You know, I mean again, and.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
That is and that has been a good neighbor. A
good neighbor. You know, a neighbor doesn't just mean that
someone was next door to you, because it could mean
somebody who's on the other side of him. Because if
you can get along with this, well I.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Give Ailani, I give Malania a credit who grew up
in that part of the world for doing that.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
To be honest with you, that was very very nice.
So anyway, but you know, so President Trump, uh for
me my opinion, and you know, I could be right,
I could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
Trump two, you know, is a different from from from
Trump one when I when I when I thought he
was acting like a temper tantrum three year olds. Now
I think he acts he acts like a real mature
of her, very respectable person. I hope it's not so
that you can find the third term. But that's another story.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Don't worry about that. Don't worry about that. Okay, that's
that's true.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
Yeah, yeah, And I think you know Hillary hillarn he
is right, she should go ahead and eliminate him, because,
you know, to to win the Nobel Prize, you don't
have to to actually succeed what you're attempting. You have
to be attempting to be a good, decent human being
to make peace. So for for his airport there, if
it's here and he can, can you investigate that, then
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she should go ahead and nominating for the Nobel Prize.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
All right, fair enough, Daniel, I got pack lines and
I'm going to change topics at eleven, so I'm going
to let you go. But as always, thanks for joining
the conversation.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
Too much money put me to make my tongue short,
so not at all.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
No, I just got to give everybody a shot tonight,
that's for sure. Thanks Daniel, I appreciate it. You have
a good one. We're going to go next to GEO
and GEO next on nice go right.
Speaker 8 (26:22):
Ahead, hey, Dan, the uh we are to start honest
to God. In nineteen ninety two Forbes magazine, Malcolm Forbes
ran for president as a Republican.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
As a conservative, I think that.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I don't think it was Malcolm. I think it was
Steve Forbes.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
Steve Forbes my mistake. He interviewed Trump's son and he said,
it's nineteen ninety two. A lot of the things are
happening in the world. Russia has renounced the Soviet and
they're going to adopt our style of government and our
style of banking. And but YU can't borrow money from
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any American banks. Trump's Trump is no good in. He said,
it doesn't matter. There is a lot of oligarchs in
Russia that were already dealing with and we're going to
be They're going to be investing in Trump and they're
going to carry the Trump Company. Since nineteen ninety two,
and that is what has happened. Everyone will write and
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has written that the Trump family, some part of that
large family is in Russia. Every year, different parts of
the family go to different oligarchs for different business and
it's a continuum. And many of the sons of those
oligarchs were in that meeting today. So all that's happening
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is that continuing what already existed and Putin allowed to happen.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Well, if it was before ninety two of Putin really
wasn't in charge. Gorbachev was in charge, he was not.
I think that's interesting, Gill. I have never seen any
proof for that. There was a lot of allegations up
Hunter Biden received funds from the Chinese. Hunter Biden received
funds from Ukrainians. Hunter Biden received a gift from the
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wife of the mayor of Moscow. There's a lot of
that stuff that I have seen, but I haven't seen
it uh nailed down. And there are a lot of
great investigative journalists in this country who I know would
love to nail you Donald Trump.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
So I have you.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I'm not going to cut you off to you, but
I'm not going to argue with you over something that
I have not seen, uh, to any any degree.
Speaker 8 (28:42):
Of of I have another.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
I have.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
What he's going to do to solve the problem is
Trump will tell putin of the profits of the gas pipelines.
I will remove the CIA from Ukraine. The CIA has
been there with their own all over north in Ukraine
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since Oliver North.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Your is this your sense of what's going to happen
or are you citing a source on this jail?
Speaker 8 (29:16):
Well, this is the obvious solution and has been no no, no, no problem.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
But you just help me out here. I'm trying to
have a conversation with you. I'm asking you if this
is your suspicion, your belief, your your your your heartfelt
belief or or is there some source that you want
to cite for me on that.
Speaker 8 (29:37):
I get this from my reading. By the way, Randi University,
can you tell me of your reading?
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (29:48):
Brandeis University has a book by Oxford University, the Oxford
Institute of Energy Studies. It was paid for their work.
That whole department generates people to work in the petroleum
and gas industry. It's paid for it by British Petroleum.
And I'm looking at a book that I'm going to
return to Brandeis. They bought it recently. It's the only
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copy in Massachusetts, and I'm going to turn it back
in so you can read it on the front porch
for two weeks. It only takes one day to read it.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Dan.
Speaker 8 (30:19):
It has hundreds of pipelines, it has hundreds of agreements.
It's called the Future of Russian Gas and Gas from
by Oxford University Jonathan Stern.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
So is that your source?
Speaker 8 (30:32):
That's my source?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
That's your source?
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Okay, that is my source.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
So my source is experts.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Dan, if you have never doubted your sources, And it's
amazing to me that the New York Times, the Washington Post,
and the Boston bulbe have not broken that story. And
I'm honored that you would break it here on nightside.
Thank you very much, but you've got to break Talk
to you later. Bye bye. You think my job is easy,
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try it some night back on nights side. Few more
phone calls, let's light him up. All of a sudden,
a couple of folks have dropped off. Six one seven,
six one seven. If anyone wants to call me and
tell me I drop is easy, feel free coming back
at night side.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
It's night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Back to the phones. We go Bill in Pennsylvania. Bill
is a Trump guy. Let's see what he thinks about
the meeting today up in Alaska. Hi, Bill, how are
you good? Dan?
Speaker 8 (31:40):
Thanks for taking my call. Well I was I was
wrong about this time, but okay, So they're going to
have another meeting somewhere else, and uh I think that, uh,
after the next meeting, maybe the Ukrainians will take uh
take Putin's airbus or whatever he rides around it out
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of the sky.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Well, I don't know that Putin's got back to Moscow yet,
so I'm not.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
Gonna well, good did There's still there's still an opportunity here, Dan, No.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Again, I think you were crazy last night. I think
it's just as crazy tonight. I mean, uh, I didn't
even want to think about stuff like that, because that
would be that would put the world in Well.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
No, my, my, my, my, damn. My point is this, Okay, I.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Want to ask you this question. I want a serious question.
What were you pleased with the way that went down today?
Meaning they schedule a news conference, they're both there and
they didn't take any questions. Did that Was that a
troubling sign to you? Or No?
Speaker 8 (32:43):
No, that's not a troubling sign to me. But but
I did after after I watched it, I watched parts
of it, Dan, I was busy, but I immediately put
on BBC and I started listening to BBC. Now, according
to BBC, okay, the European leaders are all given Trump.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
A B or B plus.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, Well I don't. I didn't listen to BBC. I
did watch one report for the BBC during the nine
o'clock news, and they were they had the same reading
that I did. They they said their reporter, a woman
reporter who seemed to be a seasoned a British reporter,
meaning you know, she looked like she was, you know,
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somewhere in her late forties, early fifties and had done
this before. She said that the room was stunned when
they came in, and instead of having a press conference,
essentially each issued a statement and walked out.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
That's well, when I'm what I'm what I'm listening to
is is because before this meet, before this meeting, and
Anchorage and the European leaders, okay, remember last week they
all had a big pow wow. Celenski was there and
uh yeah. And then and then what came out what
came out of that was oh my god, Trump's going
to go there and give away the store. Now. That
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did not happen. And and the other thing that kept
saying was, oh, if Trump goes on one on one
with Putin, it's all over. He's gonna completely, you know,
give up the store. That didn't happen either. So the
leaders of Europe, European people, guys like that moron runs France.
I forget his name, the guy that got beat up
his wife coming off the plane that day.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
So she took a shot at him. I don't beat up.
Speaker 8 (34:22):
Well if anybody, did you ever see Malania take a
shot at Trump?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
No, no, I haven't, I haven't.
Speaker 8 (34:29):
Yes, see the double standard, Dan, okay, there's there if if, if,
if the French president would have took a shot at
his wife, it would have been put the guy in
the in the brig all right. But but she can
beat up him all she wants.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I hope your wife's not listening to this conversation.
Speaker 8 (34:47):
Bill, Now my wife, My wife just went to heaven
last year.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Dan Okay, well, she's probably still listening to it. He Okay, Hey, Bill,
you were you were pleased with it. I'm happy that
you were pleased with it. I expected you to be
pleased with it. I was very surprised, as a guy
who's been a journalist for a while that two statements
post a summit didn't result in a well, the questions
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were there, but didn't result in a single answer. So Bill,
like one more. I want to try to make happy here.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
So hey, Dan, have a good Hey, listen, you're going
on vacation I'll miss you.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Well, I'll be back a couple of weeks. Day after
Labor Day. We'll talk then. Thanks Bell, right back at you. Okay,
we got Susan in Worcester. Susan, I haven't talked to you,
Susan in months? How are you?
Speaker 9 (35:35):
Oh, I'm doing fine, Dan, But you know what I think?
Speaker 8 (35:39):
Really? What do you think?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Really?
Speaker 9 (35:42):
There were a lot of things accomplished today.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Okay, give me a couple, give me two. Give me
two of the things that you think were accomplished. Oh.
Speaker 9 (35:50):
The thing about it is they both came out, which
was a good time because Trump said if it didn't
go that good, he'd be he'd be the.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Only one there and right, okay, so but but tell
me what you what you figured out. I'm just I'm hope.
I'm trying to find something that that I can I
can I can sleep a little better. Tight. Give me,
give me a couple of things that you think were accomplished.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
Well, I think he's uh interested in the economy like Trump.
I think they could make a deal with that. And
about the Lancelot, Uh, that's going to be a big deal.
But you know what, Dolinsky and NATO, they don't want
this to work in they wanted to.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Be war war the if I, if I were Susan,
I certainly understand what you're saying is Zelinsky wants his
country to be pummeled even more than it's already been pummeled.
How does that work to Zelensky's benefit?
Speaker 9 (36:47):
Well, why does he want to keep doing it? Why
can't he make the deal? That's why to go through three,
I'm going to be there. They going to agree on them.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Okay, so why didn't Churchi'll make a deal with hip.
Well remember, I mean it would have been easy for hit.
Let us say we give up, we give up. That's
what you're asking Zelensky to do, right, But I.
Speaker 9 (37:10):
Felt that something went good. Did again that they agreed
the way he was a complimenting Trump. Biden was a
no show. He never did nothing. Just give them billions
and we don't have that money.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Go.
Speaker 9 (37:25):
But I'm gonna tell you it's NATO we've got to
get rid of.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I think I think put it Zelenski probably put it
in like some Swiss account or something like that.
Speaker 9 (37:35):
That's what I really think. That they're gonna try and
make them sign they're not gonna send him no more equipment,
no more money. Trump knows what he's doing. We're gonna
edge him out. He can go to Switzerland for all
I can't.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah, and then then Russia can take over Ukraine. That'll
be fine. And then Russia can go get Estonia, Lafia
and Lithuania, those the Baltic states. They'll be easy. Roman,
me A, Bulgaria, Hungary, Poland, and we'll have the Iron
Curtain again and everybody will be happy. We'll have a
balance of power. Right.
Speaker 9 (38:07):
Well, I'll tell you I'll be happy when this guy
gets out of the politics.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Are you talking about Trump?
Speaker 7 (38:13):
You're not talking about Trump.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Okay, he picked the fight with he started the fight.
Speaker 8 (38:20):
With Putin, right, NATO did.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah, okay, Yeah, fair enough. Hey, thank you for your
for your expert analysis. Susan, come back more often. I'm
flat out of time. It's mid it's eleven o'clock. But
I appreciate your insight and your expert analysis. Thank you
so much. YouTube, bye, thank you. Coming back. Here comes
the eleven. We aren't going to change topics at eleven.
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We're going to do a twentieth hour, and I'm going
to figure it out between now and then
It's night sign with Dan Ray WBZ Coustin's new radio.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Well, there wasn't much which i'd call good news in
Alaska but the Red Sox one. So anyway, we're back.
We are talking about the Putin Trump summit today at Anchorage, Alaska,
at a US military base. I watched it throughout the day.
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I watched the statements that was that were made after
the three hour meeting. I played those statements in their
entirety for you at the beginning of the nine o'clock hour. Again.
If there was an agreement, don't know why it wasn't shared.
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They danced around it. That's that's how it looks to me. Now.
If you're a Trump supporter and you think that he
had a great day in Alaska, bring it on. If
you are not a Trump supporter, and we've heard from some,
bring it on. I'm in the middle here. If what
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I'm essentially saying is I want to see what happens
tonight tomorrow. Will the bombing of Ukraine by Russia? Continue?
If it does, that says to me that there's nothing
that came out of this that was good. I did
read a piece that said it is now up to
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Putin and Zelinsky to work out the arrangements. It's almost
as if the president, President Trump, our president, is stepping away.
That does not sound good because obviously Putin and Zelinsky
hate one another. There is absolutely no love loss between them.
(02:02):
They they despise each other. Okay, so look, there were
some nice pictures. I get it. There were some nice words.
I get it. But I, as a guy who normally
sees the glasses half full, see nothing of substance. Six one, seven, two, five,
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four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
I will remind you that I'm off the next couple
of weeks, a little bit of stay at home vacation,
not going anywhere and not doing anything exciting, just trying
to relax and catch up the final good days of August.
So I will miss all of you, but I will
be back the day after Labor Day. In the meantime,
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I believe Bradley J. Will be sitting in for me.
I think Morgan is in on Labor Day night. Please
treat both of them kindly. I appreciate that they're available
so I can get a vacation day or two, and
that is why I will be doing so I will
miss all of you, but I will be thinking of you,
and we will talk upon my return, or better yet,
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we'll talk tonight. I got some open lines, let's fill
them up. We have the twentieth hour coming up. Haven't
figured out what I'm going to do in that, but
I would like to finish off with your perspective of
what happened today. I think the fundamental mistake was that
there was no groundwork. There was no staff work done,
so there was nothing completed that. I mean, they could
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have walked out of there with an agreement that they
agreed that they're in favor of good weather. I mean,
I'm being facetious when I say that, but they could
have had something that they could have come out of
there with and said, we have agreed. This is the
first step. There were more steps to go, but at
least we have taken the first step together here in Anchorage.
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The stagecraft, the setup was amazing, the proximity of the planes,
carpet arrival, the handshakes and all of that. But to
have what is billed as a press conference and there
are no questions. Oh, there were shouted questions, but no questions,
no answers. As a half glass as a half glassful guy,
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I'm doing I'm still looking and I'm not finding anything.
So light the lines up, let's go to the call
is gonna go to. We just had a couple of
folks drop off too bad. Here goes Jeff and Abbington. Jeff,
welcome back. How are you, sir?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Never been better?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Never been better? Well I'm happy to hear that, because
I'm confused. Maybe you can help me understand what we've
just witnessed.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Well, let's take it from this perspective.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Why should we care?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Why should we care? Oh, I'll tell you why why
we should care? The two men who met today are
leaders of the country around the two countries around the
world with the largest nuclear arsenals. That's number one. We
also should care. The fact that Russia has pummeled a
neighbor for now three and a half years, and hundreds
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of thousands of soldiers, military military personnel on both sides
and innocent men, women and children.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Well, that happens in every war.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
We can still care. I mean, do you not care
about what happens in parts of you?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Know?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
You and I are lucky of Jeff. I think you
would agree with me on this that we live in
a country that doesn't have nearly the amount of that.
We have our problems, but we don't have the amount
of problems that people have who live in places like
the Congo, the Sudan.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
There's what's going on and they are always constant.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Well there are and there's always sitting. If let me
ask you this, If you hear about one of your
neighbors who you don't really know, who live a couple
of blocks away in Abington and there's just been gotten
a terminal diagnosis stage for this or stage four that,
do you not care?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Of course I care?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Oh, so you care about the people who live in Abington.
What about people maybe who live in one of the
neighboring community like Brockton. Do you care about people there?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I grew up in Brockton.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well, of course you care about Brockton. Do you care
about people? Do you care about people in Kansas? Do
you care about people in Canada? Do you care about
any other group of people around the world.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I can't solve the world's problems.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I understand that. I do understand that. But you can
still care about the world's problem.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
Okay, what's all care?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
But what that doesn't call.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Europe has been a mess. Russia has been a mess
for one hundred years. Napoleon ark was World War One.
Wilson gunners in the World War Napoleon.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, hold on, Napoleon had a tough time in Russia.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
If you're a club.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Only, Yeah, you know why, because the Russian went to
saving no.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I understand that. Yeah. I'm a student of history, Jeff,
Believe me, I'm pretty good at some of this stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Well, sometimes a lot of stuff too.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Well. Will you catch me that I'm wrong on something factually?
Please let me know, because when I catch myself and
I'm wrong on something factually, I actually correct myself in
the ear. And in a matter of fact, I want
to correct myself for your benefit of something I said
last night Mike Mussina, the great Orioles and Yankee pitcher
who grew up in Williamsport, Pennsylvania. I was interviewing the
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kids from Braintree who are playing tomorrow to keep their
hopes alive, and I said he should be in the
Hall of Fame. I was mistaken. Musina is in the
Hall of Fame, great pitcher for the Yankees and the Orioles.
So I like to correct myself when I'm factually wrong.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I don't think he ever won twenty games.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Uh, you know what, he may never have won twenty games,
but cumulatively, he pitched for about eighteen years. He won
a lot of games. I'll look up his lifetime record
at some point and uh, I'll let you know what
it was. His lifetime record is good enough to get
into the Hall of Fame, and it probably has to
have been at least two hundred wins, because that's kind
of the threshold. A lot of guys who matter of
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facturre it's more the threshold is more like two eighty actually,
but go ahead.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Gid was a better picture than who gidri.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Not for the same length of time.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
No, not for the same length of time.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
That's that's that's that's how you well. Yeah, there are
guys who were dominant for two or three years. There's no,
no doubt about that, no question about that.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Andy Kofax was in the Hall of Fame. He didn't
win two hundred.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Games, no, but he was. He was dominant. You've seen them.
Won two hundred and seventy games in his career, not
a bad record.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And Erry won three hundred.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Hall of fame, and by the way you've seen it,
did win twenty he won twenty uh in his last
season with the Yankees, went went out a pretty good pitcher. Anyway,
That's not why you called as always, Jeff. It's an
interesting confient station. We do wend our way through other topics.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
But has been a mess forever and we've been sending
American boys.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
To die over there for the last hundred years.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Why don't the Brits, the Polls, the French and the
Germans send boots on the ground.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
And don't know what the value of that conversation is
telling you, you're not giving me anything that I don't
know or anything that I yours. We bailed out Europe,
you bet you. We bailed out hero because if we
didn't bail out Europe, you and I'm at a grown
up speaking German, Jeff, Thank God for the greatest generation.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Now we're told we're not great in anything, as far
as the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Going to come back to that, isn't it, Jeff? No problem? Hey, Jeff,
have a great weekend. I'll miss you.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I'll talk to you a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, that's right, Yeah, how about that one. Let's see
Jeff Pye. Man, wouldn't you Jeff's such an upbeat, positive guy. Man,
How would you like to be his next door neighbor?
How would you like to be married to him? Ladies
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proof Anyway, back on night Side and more phone calls
the lines of light up my buddy Dallas in Ohio,
who's a much more positive guy. Who's going to be
next so we will have an antidote to Jeff's negativity.
Coming back on night Side.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
All right, we have changed our show around. Tonight. We're
going to talk about the efforts of the Boston bomber
number two to continue to avoid the death penalty. I'll
get back to that at some point, I'm sure in September.
But the story tonight is too important, not only for us,
but for the Ukrainian people and frankly for the whole
concept of world peace. Again. I'm trying to find out
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if there's any military action tonight in Ukraine, any Russian
military action, and maybe I'll find out before the end
of the show, but that will be an interesting I
think that will be an interesting development of a non development.
Let me go to Dallas in Ohio. Hey Dallas, welcome back.
Thanks very much. I'll always nice to talk with you.
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Go right ahead, Dallas, Dallas, we lost him. We lost
them there, Dallas. You must have had us on. You
must have hit a button. So call us back there
he is, Okay, he's back. Let's get him back up here, Rob.
Tell him I'm going to take him right away. Dallas,
I got you to go right ahead. How are you, sir?
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Good evening, Dan, And hello Boston.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I'm guessing you had us on speakerphone and when I
said hello, you hit the wrong button. Am I right
or wrong?
Speaker 5 (11:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
What happened? Just quest.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
It must have been because I didn't touch anything. Yeah,
I uh, I was expecting something to come of the
meeting this afternoon. But I kind of think that cut
and put the rasmetas on Trump when he went into
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that meeting, and we just.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Lost We just lost him again there, Rob, what he
calls back, Tell him we got it. He must have
some some problem there. He is, okay, put him back
on him. Just gonna give him the warning real quickly.
All right, Dallas, you're very quick, but we lost you twice.
I don't know what's going on with your phone. It's
not us.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Yeah, what I was saying was I did watch the
uh uh the meeting UH today. But I really like,
like I said earlier, I think that uh Pewtin got
in there and laid rasmatas on on Trump. You know,
and you know Trump is looking for uh to be
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a candidate for the Nobel pre Peace Prize.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
And yeah, well he I mean he's he certainly has.
He has been able to be involved in some cessations
of violence. He India, Pakistan, was that, Cambodia, in Thailand,
uh azure Bazan, uh and Armenia. So he's done some
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work there and and I think that, believe it or not,
the biggest thing that he's done for for world peace
was taken out the Iranian nuclear power nuclear site. I mean,
little little there, but but really, I mean, if they
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had ever gotten the bomb, man, they they would have
they would have thrown some of those those babies around
pretty pretty uh, pretty liberally.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Without a doubt, without a doubt, without a doubt. But
you know, sometimes I kind of think that uh President
Trump doesn't realize who he's dealing with when it comes
to put and Putin is h he's a ruthless man
and his uh clydstint workings go go back a long way.
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And you know, I'm reminded of that high ranking military
fellow that worked with the Russian Army that mysteriously was
killed in a plane crash.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Mmmm. Oh, well he was the guy. He was the
guy out of Belarus. He was he was a we
know what happened was that plane crash? Uh. He was
a guy who was actually mark. He had a he
had an army which was like the Hessians uh and
uh that they basically were hired guns. And he had
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a falling out with Putin and he decided it would
be a great idea to march on Moscow and uh
and topple Putin and Uh. That didn't quite work out
for him, and they sent him to Belarus.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
And then he made the mistake of getting on an airplane,
which blew up. I know who you're talking about. I
can't remember his name at the moment, I should have
it at the top of my mind, but I know
who you're talking about. Yeah, I mean, a lot of
people disappeared under Putin, and you know he's he's he's
not a nice guy.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
No not at all. And then you know that you know,
we he passed a KGB experience and you know.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's a KGB operative always a KGB operative or.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
I'm telling you gee whizz uh yeah. But but you know,
the real proof of the pudding will be if some
military action gets started tonight or sometime early tomorrow, uh
by the Russians.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
You know.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Yeah, that's the scene. That's the only thing. Uh. But
I know everyone is tired, you know, the war, but uh,
time will tell what will take place.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah. The guy was who was killed was Uvenni Prosognin
I think was the name, uh u Veny use Venny Prosogsen. Yeah,
and uh uh that will that's that. That's was all
they wrote for that guy. So you know, you you
don't want to be inside Russia and become an enemy
of Putin, that's for sure. And no, you know, when
(16:55):
when I heard that he had a bad medical diagnosis
a couple of years ago, I was saying, please God,
you know, take them out there. You know that prayer
went on answered. Thanks Dallas, we talk, Yeah, we'll talk soon,
my friend. Thanks so much for calling and always great
to you.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Okay, thanks vacation, I will You're.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Not doing much, that's for sure. Coming back on night Side.
We got the news at the bottom of the hour,
one line at six one, seven, ten thirty.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Coming right back, It's night Side, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Let's get to the phones. We got full lines with
for which I'm very gratified. Let me go next to
Jay in New Hampshire. Jay, you're next on Nightside.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Go right ahead again, Hi, J. The takeaway I get here,
uh from this meeting today is a positive one. I mean,
I mean, uh, it's it's a lot better than than
the Biden talk already. You know, uh what.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
What Biden talks? What whoa whoa whoa what Biden talks
ever met?
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Yes, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I just wanted to make sure that your subtlety was
not missed by anyone.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Go ahead, No, I appreciate it. Yeah, I mean, you know,
no one should be expecting miracles here. I mean you've
been kind of critical tonight of it, and I mean
I understand why, But I mean this is going to
be a real grind, a real cat in most game,
I'm not sure what's going to happen. It's jump to
pull it off. But I you know what I appreciate
(18:35):
this guy. He's working his tail off on it, you know.
I mean, that's a beautiful thing to me. That's that's
firing away better than anything we've had in a long
time in my mind.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Look, I'll give him an a for effort for trying. Absolutely,
But but I'm just looking at it was a weird
ending tonight, which if let's say President Trump had been
upset and he left after an hour and he got
on a plane and away and there was no pret
those news conference, but they held a press conference they
had held was build as a press conference and took
(19:06):
no questions. That's significant, is what I'm trying to say.
It's like if you go to the doctor's office and
the doctor says, oh, i'll let you know how your
test results come out in a couple of days, and
you call the office to get and they said, we
don't have much comment on your test results. Really, you know, yeah,
(19:29):
what are you talking about? Well, we just don't want
to talk about it. Well, if they go to bed, please,
we have no comment. What's going on?
Speaker 6 (19:38):
You're saying, I hear you, But listen, you know this,
I mean this is high stakes. We're going to be
the last ones to know if there's anything substantial, And
that's probably the.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Way I'll tell you by tomorrow. If if you if
if Russia holds off for a couple of days and
doesn't hit Ukraine, then I'll feel a little better. But
if if, if, if Russia fires a whole bunch of
missiles in on you know, civilian buildings and schools and
hospitals into Ukraine, I'll think nothing came of this. It
(20:09):
was a photo op and nothing more.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, he's got to go
through the motions. You know, he's got to make the
attempts to killing each other out. It's probably a little
bit of a boxing match. And I'm telling you, I
mean Trump he seems more invested in this than than
I kind of expected. And that's not going to be good.
(20:32):
If if Poo keeps on wasting his time playing around.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
You know, you know, well here's here's right now, CNN
has a headline, a bottom third headline that says Trump
says striking a Russia deal now is up to Zolenski.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
I heard you say that earlier. Yeah I didn't see that,
but I heard you mentioned it a few minutes back.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Right, But the point at the point is it's on
CNN right now, and uh no, you know, is is
he serious? That is a lins What's what's he going
to say? Does Alinsky go in and get him Tiger?
I mean, you know, Zilinsky's you know, he would have
to be brought understandably so kicking and screaming. What sort
(21:21):
of a deal? What sort of leverage does Lensky have
on Putin? At this point? I don't think much.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you know, hey, it's a it's
a chess match. I mean I think probably probably they
went in there and Trump knew Buten was going to
be jerking him around a little bit again and from
him on and and and you know, he's probably gonna
step back and maybe uprate from behind the scenes a
little more. And but I I think he's invested. I
(21:48):
think he's gonna henna.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
He would love to see a piece deal. Uh And
I'm sure part of his if you'm piding the term
his lust for a eel here is he'd get a
Nobel Peace Prize. I mean, there's no way that he
could be prevented if somehow, some way he was perceived
as the guy who broke with the deal between Russia
(22:11):
and Ukraine or between Putin and the Lensky. So there's
a little bit of self interest in it, which is fine.
If he can do it, I'll vote for him as well.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
But I think but the thing with him is he
he you know what I love about him is that
wild todd factor with him is he could he can.
He could just as easy blow that up in a minute.
I mean he could really move aggressively, aggressively against Putent too.
I could see that.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
You gotta be love careful of that one. All right, Jason,
So you're more optimistic than I am, essentially, I got you.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Yeah, yeah, I mean things are happening, all right, let's.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
See what happens. Thanks Bell, appreciate the call. All right,
all right, right back, catch you. Let me go too.
Daniel in Leicster, Daniel, you were next on nice I
go ahead, But Andrey, Yeah, I'm all right, thank you.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
I am. I just want to say, you know, to
sympathize with you. It's not easy mediating between people of
different genus and spiritual and philosophical or whatever. I'm referring
to the gentlemen who are who's who was, who didn't
learn the lesson at lared when I was twelve years older,
when I first went away away from home three huny
(23:26):
miles into a boarding school, and I was told this obsessiveness.
But I don't care. I don't care. I don't I
don't give up this or that's that. No, don't do that,
because you have to be a good name. And you
have to care even even somebody, even something, even someone
you don't like.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
You know, you have to care that they find out
what it is that they know that they can tell
you what they what is they don't like about you,
or maybe find out that they were wrong about you.
It'sliking you or it's liking somebody else.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But you have you have to care about the Ukrainian people.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
And I don't care about the history at this point,
but when you see these kids. As a matter of
fact that today it's being reported that President Trump had
a letter that Milania Trump sent uh and the President
Trump he had delivered the letter to Vladimir Putin from
his wife Milania speaking on behalf of Ukrainian children who
(24:18):
apparently have been kidnapped and taken into Russia. I've heard
that story before, that literally, you know, that there have
been Russian troops that have kidnapped Ukrainian kids, little kids,
and missus Trump penned a letter to Putin and asked
him to address that. And I guess what Russia is
(24:39):
saying is they're protecting the children. You know, I mean again, and.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
That is and that has been a good neighbor. A
good neighbor. You know, a neighbor doesn't just mean that
someone was next door to you, because it could mean
somebody who's on the other side of him. Because if
you can get along with this, well I.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Give Ailani, I give Malania a credit who grew up
in that part of the world for doing that.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
To be honest with you, that was very very nice.
So anyway, but you know, so President Trump, uh for
me my opinion, and you know, I could be right,
I could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
Trump two, you know, is a different from from from
Trump one when I when I when I thought he
was acting like a temper tantrum three year olds. Now
I think he acts he acts like a real mature
of her, very respectable person. I hope it's not so
that you can find the third term. But that's another story.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Don't worry about that. Don't worry about that. Okay, that's
that's true.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
Yeah, yeah, And I think you know Hillary hillarn he
is right, she should go ahead and eliminate him, because,
you know, to to win the Nobel Prize, you don't
have to to actually succeed what you're attempting. You have
to be attempting to be a good, decent human being
to make peace. So for for his airport there, if
it's here and he can, can you investigate that, then
(25:56):
she should go ahead and nominating for the Nobel Prize.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
All right, fair enough, Daniel, I got pack lines and
I'm going to change topics at eleven, so I'm going
to let you go. But as always, thanks for joining
the conversation.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
Too much money put me to make my tongue short,
so not at all.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
No, I just got to give everybody a shot tonight,
that's for sure. Thanks Daniel, I appreciate it. You have
a good one. We're going to go next to GEO
and GEO next on nice go right.
Speaker 8 (26:22):
Ahead, hey, Dan, the uh we are to start honest
to God. In nineteen ninety two Forbes magazine, Malcolm Forbes
ran for president as a Republican.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
As a conservative, I think that.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I don't think it was Malcolm. I think it was
Steve Forbes.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
Steve Forbes my mistake. He interviewed Trump's son and he said,
it's nineteen ninety two. A lot of the things are
happening in the world. Russia has renounced the Soviet and
they're going to adopt our style of government and our
style of banking. And but YU can't borrow money from
(27:00):
any American banks. Trump's Trump is no good in. He said,
it doesn't matter. There is a lot of oligarchs in
Russia that were already dealing with and we're going to
be They're going to be investing in Trump and they're
going to carry the Trump Company. Since nineteen ninety two,
and that is what has happened. Everyone will write and
(27:21):
has written that the Trump family, some part of that
large family is in Russia. Every year, different parts of
the family go to different oligarchs for different business and
it's a continuum. And many of the sons of those
oligarchs were in that meeting today. So all that's happening
(27:41):
is that continuing what already existed and Putin allowed to happen.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Well, if it was before ninety two of Putin really
wasn't in charge. Gorbachev was in charge, he was not.
I think that's interesting, Gill. I have never seen any
proof for that. There was a lot of allegations up
Hunter Biden received funds from the Chinese. Hunter Biden received
funds from Ukrainians. Hunter Biden received a gift from the
(28:11):
wife of the mayor of Moscow. There's a lot of
that stuff that I have seen, but I haven't seen
it uh nailed down. And there are a lot of
great investigative journalists in this country who I know would
love to nail you Donald Trump.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
So I have you.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I'm not going to cut you off to you, but
I'm not going to argue with you over something that
I have not seen, uh, to any any degree.
Speaker 8 (28:42):
Of of I have another.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
I have.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
What he's going to do to solve the problem is
Trump will tell putin of the profits of the gas pipelines.
I will remove the CIA from Ukraine. The CIA has
been there with their own all over north in Ukraine
(29:05):
since Oliver North.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Your is this your sense of what's going to happen
or are you citing a source on this jail?
Speaker 8 (29:16):
Well, this is the obvious solution and has been no no, no, no problem.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
But you just help me out here. I'm trying to
have a conversation with you. I'm asking you if this
is your suspicion, your belief, your your your your heartfelt
belief or or is there some source that you want
to cite for me on that.
Speaker 8 (29:37):
I get this from my reading. By the way, Randi University,
can you tell me of your reading?
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (29:48):
Brandeis University has a book by Oxford University, the Oxford
Institute of Energy Studies. It was paid for their work.
That whole department generates people to work in the petroleum
and gas industry. It's paid for it by British Petroleum.
And I'm looking at a book that I'm going to
return to Brandeis. They bought it recently. It's the only
(30:11):
copy in Massachusetts, and I'm going to turn it back
in so you can read it on the front porch
for two weeks. It only takes one day to read it.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Dan.
Speaker 8 (30:19):
It has hundreds of pipelines, it has hundreds of agreements.
It's called the Future of Russian Gas and Gas from
by Oxford University Jonathan Stern.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
So is that your source?
Speaker 8 (30:32):
That's my source?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
That's your source?
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Okay, that is my source.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
So my source is experts.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Dan, if you have never doubted your sources, And it's
amazing to me that the New York Times, the Washington Post,
and the Boston bulbe have not broken that story. And
I'm honored that you would break it here on nightside.
Thank you very much, but you've got to break Talk
to you later. Bye bye. You think my job is easy,
(31:04):
try it some night back on nights side. Few more
phone calls, let's light him up. All of a sudden,
a couple of folks have dropped off. Six one seven,
six one seven. If anyone wants to call me and
tell me I drop is easy, feel free coming back
at night side.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
It's night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Back to the phones. We go Bill in Pennsylvania. Bill
is a Trump guy. Let's see what he thinks about
the meeting today up in Alaska. Hi, Bill, how are
you good? Dan?
Speaker 8 (31:40):
Thanks for taking my call. Well I was I was
wrong about this time, but okay, So they're going to
have another meeting somewhere else, and uh I think that, uh,
after the next meeting, maybe the Ukrainians will take uh
take Putin's airbus or whatever he rides around it out
(32:00):
of the sky.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Well, I don't know that Putin's got back to Moscow yet,
so I'm not.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
Gonna well, good did There's still there's still an opportunity here, Dan, No.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Again, I think you were crazy last night. I think
it's just as crazy tonight. I mean, uh, I didn't
even want to think about stuff like that, because that
would be that would put the world in Well.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
No, my, my, my, my, damn. My point is this, Okay, I.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Want to ask you this question. I want a serious question.
What were you pleased with the way that went down today?
Meaning they schedule a news conference, they're both there and
they didn't take any questions. Did that Was that a
troubling sign to you? Or No?
Speaker 8 (32:43):
No, that's not a troubling sign to me. But but
I did after after I watched it, I watched parts
of it, Dan, I was busy, but I immediately put
on BBC and I started listening to BBC. Now, according
to BBC, okay, the European leaders are all given Trump.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
A B or B plus.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, Well I don't. I didn't listen to BBC. I
did watch one report for the BBC during the nine
o'clock news, and they were they had the same reading
that I did. They they said their reporter, a woman
reporter who seemed to be a seasoned a British reporter,
meaning you know, she looked like she was, you know,
(33:23):
somewhere in her late forties, early fifties and had done
this before. She said that the room was stunned when
they came in, and instead of having a press conference,
essentially each issued a statement and walked out.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
That's well, when I'm what I'm what I'm listening to
is is because before this meet, before this meeting, and
Anchorage and the European leaders, okay, remember last week they
all had a big pow wow. Celenski was there and
uh yeah. And then and then what came out what
came out of that was oh my god, Trump's going
to go there and give away the store. Now. That
(33:58):
did not happen. And and the other thing that kept
saying was, oh, if Trump goes on one on one
with Putin, it's all over. He's gonna completely, you know,
give up the store. That didn't happen either. So the
leaders of Europe, European people, guys like that moron runs France.
I forget his name, the guy that got beat up
his wife coming off the plane that day.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
So she took a shot at him. I don't beat up.
Speaker 8 (34:22):
Well if anybody, did you ever see Malania take a
shot at Trump?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
No, no, I haven't, I haven't.
Speaker 8 (34:29):
Yes, see the double standard, Dan, okay, there's there if if, if,
if the French president would have took a shot at
his wife, it would have been put the guy in
the in the brig all right. But but she can
beat up him all she wants.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I hope your wife's not listening to this conversation.
Speaker 8 (34:47):
Bill, Now my wife, My wife just went to heaven
last year.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Dan Okay, well, she's probably still listening to it. He Okay, Hey, Bill,
you were you were pleased with it. I'm happy that
you were pleased with it. I expected you to be
pleased with it. I was very surprised, as a guy
who's been a journalist for a while that two statements
post a summit didn't result in a well, the questions
(35:13):
were there, but didn't result in a single answer. So Bill,
like one more. I want to try to make happy here.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
So hey, Dan, have a good Hey, listen, you're going
on vacation I'll miss you.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Well, I'll be back a couple of weeks. Day after
Labor Day. We'll talk then. Thanks Bell, right back at you. Okay,
we got Susan in Worcester. Susan, I haven't talked to you,
Susan in months? How are you?
Speaker 9 (35:35):
Oh, I'm doing fine, Dan, But you know what I think?
Speaker 8 (35:39):
Really? What do you think?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Really?
Speaker 9 (35:42):
There were a lot of things accomplished today.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Okay, give me a couple, give me two. Give me
two of the things that you think were accomplished. Oh.
Speaker 9 (35:50):
The thing about it is they both came out, which
was a good time because Trump said if it didn't
go that good, he'd be he'd be the.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Only one there and right, okay, so but but tell
me what you what you figured out. I'm just I'm hope.
I'm trying to find something that that I can I
can I can sleep a little better. Tight. Give me,
give me a couple of things that you think were accomplished.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
Well, I think he's uh interested in the economy like Trump.
I think they could make a deal with that. And
about the Lancelot, Uh, that's going to be a big deal.
But you know what, Dolinsky and NATO, they don't want
this to work in they wanted to.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Be war war the if I, if I were Susan,
I certainly understand what you're saying is Zelinsky wants his
country to be pummeled even more than it's already been pummeled.
How does that work to Zelensky's benefit?
Speaker 9 (36:47):
Well, why does he want to keep doing it? Why
can't he make the deal? That's why to go through three,
I'm going to be there. They going to agree on them.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Okay, so why didn't Churchi'll make a deal with hip.
Well remember, I mean it would have been easy for hit.
Let us say we give up, we give up. That's
what you're asking Zelensky to do, right, But I.
Speaker 9 (37:10):
Felt that something went good. Did again that they agreed
the way he was a complimenting Trump. Biden was a
no show. He never did nothing. Just give them billions
and we don't have that money.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Go.
Speaker 9 (37:25):
But I'm gonna tell you it's NATO we've got to
get rid of.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I think I think put it Zelenski probably put it
in like some Swiss account or something like that.
Speaker 9 (37:35):
That's what I really think. That they're gonna try and
make them sign they're not gonna send him no more equipment,
no more money. Trump knows what he's doing. We're gonna
edge him out. He can go to Switzerland for all
I can't.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah, and then then Russia can take over Ukraine. That'll
be fine. And then Russia can go get Estonia, Lafia
and Lithuania, those the Baltic states. They'll be easy. Roman,
me A, Bulgaria, Hungary, Poland, and we'll have the Iron
Curtain again and everybody will be happy. We'll have a
balance of power. Right.
Speaker 9 (38:07):
Well, I'll tell you I'll be happy when this guy
gets out of the politics.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Are you talking about Trump?
Speaker 7 (38:13):
You're not talking about Trump.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Okay, he picked the fight with he started the fight.
Speaker 8 (38:20):
With Putin, right, NATO did.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah, okay, Yeah, fair enough. Hey, thank you for your
for your expert analysis. Susan, come back more often. I'm
flat out of time. It's mid it's eleven o'clock. But
I appreciate your insight and your expert analysis. Thank you
so much. YouTube, bye, thank you. Coming back. Here comes
the eleven. We aren't going to change topics at eleven.
(38:46):
We're going to do a twentieth hour, and I'm going
to figure it out between now and then
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