August 15, 2025 • 40 mins
President Trump heads to Alaska Friday for a meeting with Russian President Putin, with hopes of finding a way to end the war in Ukraine. The White House has called this meeting a "listening exercise," and Trump has said he plans to assess whether any type of peace deal can be made. We discussed this breaking news summit between Trump and Putin.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WVS Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, we're taking our plan for tonight and kind of
mixing it up a little bit. The big story this evening,
and not because of what it has resulted in or
what was achieved, but the big story by virtue of
what it is. The Putin Trump summit seems to me,
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who have been a big disappointment. I have tried to
watch as much as I could this afternoon, the pumping
circumstance of the arrival, where neither President's Putin or Trump
took a question.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
They stood, posed for some pictures, went into the.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Meeting I guess around three o'clock and they met for
three hours.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Now, again, their.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Time of day is four hours behind us, so when
they landed around I guess two to two thirty was
ten thirty in the morning, and when they went into
their talks, it was.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
About eleven in the morning. In Alaska. It is actually
at one time zone beyond Pacific Coast time. And some
of you probably have heard some excerpts. When they finished,
they came out and they delivered fairly brief talks. Putin
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spoke longer than President Trump. It's difficult for me to against.
Putin is speaking in Russian, and you're going to have
an interpreter here. He says lots of nice words, but
nothing of substance. So we're going to play two sound
bites of Vladimir Putin, and then the which would be
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the entirety of his statement, and then the state of
the President, which was actually shorter than Putin's no questions.
There's no information that's substantive here, but I want you
to respond to it. I want you to listen to
it and respond to it, and we're going to play
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it for you in it's entirety. So the Putin thing
is two parts. Here is part one. It's letter a
please rob.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
This is because our countries, though separated by the oceans,
of close neighbors. So when we've met, when I came
out of the plane and I've said good afternoon, dear neighbor,
very good to see you in good health and to
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see you alive, I think that is very neighborly, and
I think that's some kind words that we can say
to each other.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
For clarification, this is a translator for Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Between the Russian island and the US island. There are
only four kilometers apart. We have close neighbors, and it's
a fact. It's also important that Alaska has to do
with our common common history between Russia and the US,
and many positive events have to do with that territory. Still,
there is a tremendous cultural heritage back from the Russian America,
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for example, Orthodox churches and a lot of more than
seven hundred geographical names of Russian origin. During the Second
World War, it was here in Alaska that was the
origin of the legendary air bridge for the supply of
military aircraft and other equipment under the land lease program.
There was a dangerous and treacherous route over the vast
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emptiness of ice. However, the pilots of both countries did
everything to bring close to the victory. They reached their
lives and they gave it all for the common victory.
I was just in the city of Magadon in Russia,
and there is a memorial there dedicated to the Russian
and the US pilots. And there are two flags, the
US flag and the Russian flag. And I know that
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here as well, there is such a memorial. There is
a military burial place several kilometers away from here. The
Soviet pilots that buried there, who died during that dangerous mission,
were thankful to the citizens and then government the US
for carefully taking care of their memory. I think that's
very worthy and noble. We'll always remember other historical examples
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we're now where countries defeated common enemies together in the
spirit of battle, camaraderie and allship that supported each other
and facilitated each other. I am sure that this heritage
will help us rebuild and foster mutually beneficial and equal
ties at this new stage, even during the hardest conditions.
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It is known that there have been no summits between
Russia and the US for four years, and that's a
long time. This time was very hard for buyote relations,
and let's be frank, they fallen to the lowest points
since the Cold War. I think that's not benefiting our
countries and the world as a whole. Disappeared that sooner
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or later we had to amend the situation, to move
on from the confrontation to dialog, and in this case,
a personal meeting between the heads of state has been
long overdue. Naturally, under the condition of serious and painstaking
work and this work has been done. In general, me
and President Trump have very good direct contact. We've spoken
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multiple times. We spoke frankly on the phone, and Special
Envoy of the President, mister Witcock, traveled out to Russia
several times. Our advisors and heads of foreign ministries kept
in touch all the time. And you know fully well
that one of the central issues was the situation around Ukraine.
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We see this drive of the administration and President Trump
personally to help facilitate the resolution of the Ukrainian conflict,
and his strive to get to the croux of the
matter to understand this history is precious.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well, not much there.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
A nice history lesson from Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Okay, not much there at all.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So let's keep rolling the last half of his statement again,
it's about three minutes, and then we'll play Donald Trump's.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
But again, this is Putin.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Trying to draw this great similarity between US and Russia,
geographic similarity. I mean, yeah, it's it is. It has
no relevance to what's going on. It has no relevance
to the losses that both Ukraine and Russia have suffered
during this war, which was initiated fully, totally, completely by
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Russia Part B of Putin.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Please, rob, As I've said, the situation in Ukraine has
to do with fundamental threats to our security. Moreover, we've
always considered the Ukrainian nation, and I've said it multiple times,
a broadly nation. How very strange it may sound, in
these conditions, we have the same roots, and everything that's
happening is a tragedy for us and terrible wound. Therefore,
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the country is sincerely interested in putting an end to it.
The same time, we're convinced that in order to make
the settlement lasting and long term, we need to eliminate
all the primary roots, the primary causes of that conflict,
and we've said it multiple times, to consider all legitimate
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concerns of Russia and to reinstate a just balance of
security in Europe and in world on the whole, and
agree with President Trump as he is said today that
naturally the security of Ukraine should be insured as well.
Naturally we are prepared to work on that. I would
like to hope that the agreement that we've each together
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will help us bring close to that goal and will
pave the path towards peace in Ukraine. We expect that
Kiev and European capitals will perceive that constructively and that
they won't throw a ranch in the works. They will
not make any attempts to use some backroom dealings to
conduct provocations to torpedo. The nascent progress, incidentally, when the
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new administration came to power by let all trades are
ready to grow is still very symbolic. Still we have
a growth of twenty percent. As I've said, we have
a lot of dimensions for joint work. It is clear
that the US and Russian Investment and Business Corporation has
tremendous potential. Russia and the US can offer each other
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so much in trade, digital high tech and in space exploration.
We see that Arctic corporation is also very possible. And
our international context, for example between the forest of Russia
and the west coast of the US. Overall, it's very
important for our countries to turn the page to go
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back to cooperation. It is symbolic that not far away
from here, at the border between Russia and the US,
there is a so called international dateline. I think you
can step over literally from yesterday into tomorrow, and I
hope that will succeed in that in political sphere. I
would like to thank President Trump for our joint work,
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for the well wishing and trustworthy tone of our conversation.
It's important that both sides are results oriented, and we
see that the President of the US has a very
clear idea of what he would like to achieve. He
sincerely cares about prosperity of his nation. Still he understands
that Russia has its own national interests. I expect that
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today's agreements will be the starting point not only for
the solution of the Ukrainian issue, but also will help
us bring back businesslike and pragmatic relations between Russia and
the US. And in the end, I would like to
add one more thing. I'd like to remind you that
in twenty twenty two, during the last contact with the
previous administration, I tried to convince my previous American colleague
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it should not the situation should not be brought to
the point of no return when it would come to hostilities,
and has said it quite directly back then that it's
a big mistake today when President Trump saying that if
he was the president back then, there will be no war,
and I'm quite sure that it would indeed be so,
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and I can confirm that I think that overall me
and President Trump have built a very good, business like
and trustworthy contact, and I have every reason to believe
that moving down this path, we can't come and suited
better to the end of the conflict in Ukraine. Thank you,
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Thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Agreement twice, never defined, it, never alluded to it, never
suggested what that agreement was. I don't really think there's
much of an agreement other than just some nice words
going back and forth. That's why I think it's was
a disappointment. I would also say, actually the equivalent of
a nothing burger. Now, maybe maybe there's something they're not
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telling us. We'll hear from President Trump's words in its entirety,
and then we're going to go to phone call. So
if you want to comment on what either or both
said or didn't say six one, seven, two, five, four
ten thirty six seven nine, three, one ten thirty, President
Trump will come up right after the.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Break night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Okay, so we heard from Vladimir Putin. This is President Trump,
who also provided very few, if any details. If any
of you can find anything in this statement that you
can hang your hat on. Please let us know this
is cut Sea Rout.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Well, thank you very much, mis the President. That was
very profound, and I will say that I believe we
had a very productive meeting. There were many many points
that we agreed on. Most of them, I would say,
a couple of big ones that we haven't quite gotten there,
but we've made some headway. So there's no deal until
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there's a deal. I will call up NATO in a
little while, I will call up the various people that
I think are appropriate, and of course call up Presidents
Olensky and tell them about today's meeting. It's ultimately up
to them, and I have to agree with what Marco
and Steve and some of the great people from the
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Trump administration who've come here Scott and John Ratcliffe, thank
you very much. But we have some of our really
great leaders. They've been doing a phenomenal job. We also
have some tremendous Russian business representatives here, and I think
you know, everybody wants to deal with us. We've become
the hottest country anywhere in the world at a very
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short period of time, and we look forward to that.
We look forward to dealing. We're going to try and
get this over with. We really made some great progress today.
I've always had a fantastic relationship.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
With President Putin.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
With Vladimir, we had many, many tough meetings, good meetings.
We were interfered with by the Russia Russia Russia hoax.
It made it a little bit tougher to deal with,
but he understood it. I think he's probably seen things
like that during the course of his career. He's seen
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it all. But we had to put up with the
Russia Russia Russia hoax. He knew it was a hoax,
and I knew it was a hoax. But what was
done was very criminal. But it made it harder for
us to deal as a country in terms of the
business and all of the things that would like to
have dealt with. But we'll have a good chance when
this is over. So just to put it very quickly,
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I'm going to start making a few phone calls and
tell them what happened. But we had an extremely productive
meeting and many points were agreed to. There are just
a very few that are left. Some are not that significant.
One is probably the most significant. But we have a
very good chance of getting there. We didn't get there,
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but we have a very good chance of getting there.
I would like to thank President Putin and his entire team,
whose faces, who I know in many cases otherwise other
than that, whose faces I get to see you all
the time in the newspapers. You're very You're almost as
famous as the boss, but especially this one right over here.
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But we had some good meetings over the years, right,
good productive meetings over the years, and.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
We hope to have that in the future. That let's
do the.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Most productive one right now. We're going to stop really
five six, seven thousand, thousands of people from being killed,
and President Putin wants to see that as much as
I do. So again, mister President, i'd like to thank
you very much, and we'll speak to you very soon
and probably see you again very soon.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Thank you very much, Vladimir next time in Moscow.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Oh that's an interesting one. No, no, I'll get a little
heat on.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
That one, but I could see it possibly happening. Thank
you very much, Latimer, and thank you all, thank you,
thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
No questions, well there were questions, but no answers to
the questions. So I want to hear from you. We're
going to go to our news at the bottom of
the hour. You have now heard in their entirety these
statements that were made both by Vladimir Putin and Donald
Trump following the three hour meeting. Putin referred to agreement
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President Trump productive meeting. I don't see any evidence of
that there was. There are no leaks. There will be leaks,
but there are no leaks so far to tell us.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Where they agreed. Maybe they maybe they agreed they both
liked ice cream. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
There was nothing of substance that came out of that meeting.
No ceasefire, No thousands of lives will be saved, but
there'll be no ceasefire.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
The question is when does Russia launch more missiles on Ukraine,
and I would suspect that it will be within the
next few hours. Very frustrating.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I think the mistake that was made here that this meeting,
for whatever reason, was scheduled in a hurried fashion.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
There was no groundwork done.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Normally, when they have these summits, there's the groundwork that's
done and the agreements are made and the summit essentially
then becomes simply a spectacle to confirm what has been done.
There was there was no pre meet there. There was
no time for prev and everything to do to figure
out the airline schedules and at what time they could
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how they both could get to Anchorage, Alaska within fifteen
minutes of each other. Let's go to the phones right
after the news break six one seven, four ten thirty,
six one seven, nine thirty. I think this was a
huge build up, a huge build up, and nothing. Nothing
seems to have been accomplished with any specificity. You can
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agree or disagree. Uh, And if you're thrilled with the
result today, please tell me what you're thrilled about.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Coming back on nightside right after the news at the bottom.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Of the hour, and you're on night Side with Dan
Ray on YOUBZ Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Okay, so you've heard from Vladimir Putin In it's in
its entirety through a translator. You heard from President Trump.
I find nothing, nothing in the comments to hang a
hat on. Maybe some of you are are feeling better
about this. I think that in the next day or two.
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I mean, if all of a sudden, somehow Putin has
agreed to doesn't want to agree to a cease fire,
and is going to forbear from continuing to attack but
I don't think that's necessarily so it's it's mystifying. The
only lines that are open are six one. Let me
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start it off with Lawrence in West Roxbury and Lawrence,
if I'm not mistaken, you're a military veteran.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
That's Trent.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Go right ahead, Lawrence, what do you think of this
of this meeting?
Speaker 7 (18:43):
I agree, I agree with you that nothing come out
of this meeting. And the reason that the niceties during
the period after the meeting was that's all they could achieve.
I have to say to you, is this President of
the United States, when he became president, knew nothing about
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international relations of foreign affairs, and from my point of view,
he hasn't learned anything during that time. And you know,
we go back to President Roosevelt, Harry Truman, and Dwight Eisenhower.
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You don't see any of that. And President Trump and
the people around him are not like George Marshall or
Dean Atchison or John Fosterdella. There's zeros compared to them,
and that's what we're up against. And you know, I'm
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worried every day that these people don't make some great
mistake and we end up in a real difficult situation.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
That's a concern.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I will say this, if you go back to Yalta
and you talk about Roosevelt Churchill in Stalin, I think
that Stalin was victorious at Yalta. His troops were able
to occupy Eastern Europe for almost a half a century
as a result of the agreements at Yalta. I don't
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think that rosel covered himself or Churchill covered themselves in glory. Now,
maybe they had no option at that point that with
you know, World War II coming.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
To an end.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
Well, you can say that if you'd like, mister Ray,
But the fact of the matter is that we were
still learning about the Soviet Union at that time and
what that meant.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
If I could disagree with you, Lawrence, the Soviet Union
in nineteen thirty nine had joined with Hitler and Nazi
Germany to invade Poland on September first, nineteen thirty nine,
and only when Hitler turned on Stalin did Stalin decide
to fight against Hitler. So, you know, again, I'm just
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I'm just trying to be fair as an umpire and
call it, you know, right down the middle. I'm I'm
agreeing with you. I think that there was nothing accomplished today.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Now I also need to point out to you is
that this guy who missed Trump faced today was raised
in the KGB.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I'm very much aware of that, very much aware of that.
I hope you, hope you realize that's not news to me.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
People in this country need to be aware of that.
I think most people.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Do understand that. To be honest with you, Lawrence, I.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Don't think I'm sorry, but I don't dis I disagree
with you.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
There Again, I don't have a poll to prove it.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
All I can tell you is that he has been
a fixture now as the head of Russia for you know,
nearly thirty years after after you know, the brief respite
of Gorbachev in Yeltsin, He's back in control.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
He I think everyone knows that.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
He has said the greatest tragedy of the twentieth century
was the disillusion of the Soviet Union. Obviously we see
that quite differently. That's all I mean. I agree with
you and today and I just felt that Stalin basically
had the best of the Altar conference with Roosevelt in Churchill,
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two men who I admire, But I think maybe they
felt at that point that we as a country in
Britain as a country were so tired of war that
we weren't interested in after having defeated Hitler to go
to war with Stalin. I'm sure that's what the historians
would say, but I just wanted to make sure that
that at least today nothing was seated as far as
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we know to put. Let's hope that's not the case.
I think you and I are on the same side
of the street here in our perspective of what didn't
happen today.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Well, one of the things you said, I think if
you go and look at our archives, some of the
information that Dwight Eisenhower, Douglas mccoppa, nimitsuh that they're not there.
They're they're they've been moved to put it, but they
were very very direct, and they're feeling about mister Roosevelts
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and its associates at Y also, I'll let that.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
One hang in the air. Thanks so much, Laurence, appreciate
your call.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
I hav a nice night, sir, you too, Thanks.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
For your call.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
You're welcome here anytime six one seven thirty or six
one seven. Let me go to Kennon Waltham. Ken you
were next on Nitsacker right.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Ahead, Hi Dan, Yeah, I think Putin accomplished a little bit.
Unfortunately from his perspective, he's trying to avoid or delay
further US sanctions. You know, he goes to these meetings,
announces there's some sort of agreement and and Trump says,
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you know, now I need to talk to Ukraine and Europe.
I mean, the sanctions are supposed to take place.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
A week ago.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
They'll be further delays. So I think Putin has small ya.
I has nothing to lose by coming to this and
trying to make that happen. And potentially he can say
to his own people, well we did have some agreements,
and Trump talked to Ukraine and Europe and they mixed it,
so that might have some impact with his own people
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of his own country. That's that's a bit of a
reach on my part, I think, But maybe they're so.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I think that the Russian people have to be getting
weary of what's.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Going on in Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I mean, I'm I've followed it fairly closely. They have
North Korean troops in there, They've been slatted by the Ukrainians.
They have North Koreans now working in their factories, they're
they're having trouble conscripting, you know, people for the Warrior.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Great.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I meant they have their old set of problems as well.
But yeah, I don't know that either one of them
came out of it with much today. Because if Putin
starts to bomb Ukraine later tonight or tomorrow, any hopes
that maybe there was some sort of let's let's, you know,
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let's take seventy two.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
There was nothing that could have been agreed upon, ken,
I just don't I'm trying to. I listened very carefully
to their remarks, and I heard nothing. I got a
history lesson about American pilots and Russian pilots in World
War Two. Okay, fine, that's interesting. Wasn't aware of that,
but it was. It was a historic history lesson and
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Trump saying, well, you know, lives will be saved, thousands
of lives will be saved based on what.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
So I think the other thing. I mean, we talked
last night, and you know, I had mentioned something about,
you know, negotiating private announced results in public, and there's
such a build up of this meeting where you know,
Trump has to confer with Ukraine and Europe. I mean
he can't announce anything. I mean, you know this being
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built up in public. I think it was a disaster
and a mistake. It was just a mistake.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Well it's also a mistake.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I think that that Putin asked for this meeting maybe
ten days ago, if you know, I don't know, it
was much longer than that. And all of a sudden,
the meeting is scheduled for Alaska a few days later.
And it was It was interesting. I mean, the stage
craft was great, the planes landed at the right time,
they walked down the red carpet, they shook hands, they
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smiled somewhat, and they sat for three hours. And when
I heard they were over at three hours, I thought,
this is not going to be good in terms of
having something on substance out of it. I think it was.
It has to be considered a disappointment. Now, let's see
what Putin does in the next twenty four to forty
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eight hours. That will be interesting. If he goes back
to bombing Ukraine, then it's going to really give lie
to what both of them wanted to suggest tonight. There
was nothing there in my opinion. Now, unless he has
some sort of private assurance from Putin that he will
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full be here from launching anything for you know, the
next seventy two hours. And in the meantime, Tump's Trump's
job is to go alert everybody in Europe that things
are going in the right. I don't know, maybe maybe
there's something we're unaway n but I've never seen a
summit that ended and they held press conferences, they didn't
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take questions, and the place was full of questions because
they said nothing of substance. I'm talking too long, Go
right ahead, Ken, I'm.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Sorry, no, I I'm you know, it's possible that some
fantastic preliminary agreements were reached and all Trump has to
do is, you know, talk to Ukraine and Europe. I'll
improve it, and off we go. But that seems very
very unlikely. And and you're reading, you know, all the
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sort of the hand language and everything going on. I
think you're right. The other the other thing I wanted
to mention, though, Danish. You asked me last night what
I thought Trump was going to say, and I said,
he's not gonna He's going to say progress was made,
and he's not going to mention any specifics, right.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Well, that's all that, that's all that he said, right.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Right, But let me just say, even though I think
this whole thing to disaster, you know how anti Trump
I am, given the situation, no matter how well things
went or how poorly things went, I think that was
the right thing to say. You know, there's no reason
to oversell this when you don't have your Grain or
Europe on board. If it was a total disaster, he
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shouldn't get up there and say this was a total disaster.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Actually, well he had also said that that if he
felt there was no way forward, he would not have
a press conference and he would leave. I mean, he
was talking to everybody in the plane coming over, answering
any question that anyone asked him. It'll be interesting to
find out the plane has been in the air now
for a couple of hours, for an hour, it'll be
interesting to see if there's been any accessibility on that
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White House traveling press corps, and if there's any sound
that eventuates before the night is over, we'll try to
follow it. But as of this moment, that's all I got.
And if anyone wants to say, it was wonderful that
they met and they didn't you know, punch each other
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in knows. I guess you could say that's a.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Good thing, but you know what I think. But I
think's happening here dan is you actually had some expectations
and you're disappointed. I had absolutely no expectations and thought
it could be even worse. And I'm just happy that Trump,
at least, given that I think he's a disaster, said
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what the only thing I think he should have said,
And I kind of think that's where we are.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Well, I mean in I'm always half a glasses half
full guy. Okay, I think that when it comes to Trump,
you're a glasses half empty guy. So I'm always thinking
to myself, Okay, let's let's see if there's something here
that I've missed and I haven't heard it yet, but
(30:51):
I'm prepared if if by tomorrow Russian Russia has has
told the troops to stop, and that there's some some
form of a if not a cease fire, at at
least a forty eight hour respite or something.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
If if if tonight right now Russian missiles are being
launched at Ukraine, well that settles it. But I always
would love to leave open the possibility, just the possibility
that some progress in the right direction was made. I mean,
it's better that they met than they did that they
(31:33):
didn't meet. I wish they would have been better prepared
and the agreements had been made. Ken, thank you as always,
appreciate your call.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Dan, Thank you, Talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Okay, quick break here one line at six one seven
four ten thirty and two at six one seven nine
three thirty. Coming right back on the Night's Side right
after the break. We can talk about this for a
while if there's an appetite for it. If there isn't,
we can move on the The who have generally Trump
supporters here are pretty quiet tonight, and that says a
(32:05):
lot to me.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
We'll be back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray and Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Okay, let's try to get everybody in the lines have
lit up, which is great. Susannah Newton, Suzanne, next on Nightside.
Your thought on what did not or did happen tonight?
Speaker 8 (32:22):
Well, thanks Dan, I'm very proud of our President Donald J. Trump. Okay,
he did write the book, the author of the Deal.
He met in person in Alaska with Vladimir Putin. He
did not, you know, make a fool of himself or
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didn't make a fool of himself either. They may not
have come to agreement, but I think they made great progress.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Well, they said they made progress. They tell us what
that progress was. That's what I'm concerned.
Speaker 8 (32:58):
I don't think they're going to broadcast that all over
the news tonight or tomorrow. You don't. I mean, if
stuttle Trump one air Force, Sward attorney to wash it,
they take questions for t it's gonna go right back
(33:19):
to Moscow into the Palace. I don't I think they're
going to think about it all that are both of them?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Okay, Well maybe maybe they will, and you can call
back and tell us that I was wrong. But as
of now, I have nothing to hang my hat on,
and I'm looking for something to hang my hat on.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Thanks is in?
Speaker 8 (33:40):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
All right? Good night.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Let me go next to Sandra in Carver down on
the cape. Hey, Sandra, down towards the cape. Hi, Sandra,
how are you good?
Speaker 9 (33:49):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I'm great? What's you think about today?
Speaker 9 (33:51):
I put my call? Well, first of all, Trump put
on a red carpet with a military flyover for a
murderer and I can't believe the military I did that.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
But however, well he's the commander in chief.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
They have to do primarilybody says, and I think that
they were following orders.
Speaker 9 (34:07):
Okay, No, Anyways, you had mentioned that Howton's been in
for thirty years. The only reason he's in he's killed
all the people that ran against him. He's poisoned him
and stuff like that. And I got very ill at
ease when I heard they were going into Alaska, because
I've really had a feeling Newton was going to end
up in Alaska. But anyways, I think the Canadians need
(34:30):
to really show up their borders, real tests. Trump can't
be trusted. We do not eat Russia and Alaska. And
that's really almost I have to say. I'm just a
little bit concerned about the Epstein saying also that nothing
you know, this crony of Epstein is now in a
minimum security prison, which I don't agree with.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
All Right, you said a lot in a brief period
of time, which makes you the best.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Caller of the night.
Speaker 9 (34:56):
Why, thank you. I try to do the best. Take
care you do.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Great, Thanks Andrew, I keep calling that right, Great night,
good night, Let's keep rolling.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
You're going to go to Rick Bill Rick and Rick next. Nice,
I go.
Speaker 10 (35:06):
Ahead, Damn, how are you tonight?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I'm confused, Well, don't.
Speaker 10 (35:13):
I wouldn't worry too much. I think I think it
was the best he can do. I think Ken said
it beautifully what I was feeling and what I was
almost saying perfectly. Ken Ken did it for me. So
I'm just going to add on to what he said.
And I even like what Suzanne just said a moment ago.
You just said a moment ago, you're a half glass full.
And I think Trump is certainly that it's going to
(35:36):
take many meetings, probably by what you said also about
the possibility of bombing in seventy two hours bothers me too.
Let's see if this guy Putin has some restraint and
respect for once.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
And I mean, well, the clock is running.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I mean, if we wake up tomorrow morning and find
out that Kiev was bombed overnight, that's going to say
a lot.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
If we wake up too all with them.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
And the media tells us for the first time and
in months there were no bombs, you know, no missiles.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Fired at Ukraine, that'll tell us something too.
Speaker 10 (36:11):
Let's see, well, well, true, I certainly, I certainly hope. No,
let's let's hope and pray that that isn't the case.
They need to bring the Zelensky to the table, and
I don't like I think Zolensky had every right the
first time around with Trump to say I don't like
what what you have to offer because it was too
pro potent, way too pro potent. Be nice to get
(36:31):
the don boss back. And it'd be pretty much nice
if they could just give each other this pots back,
crime risk, CRIMEA. It needs to be kept out well,
it doesn't need to be kept what that was acquired
under what's his name was?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
It was taken It was taken during the Obama administration
in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 10 (36:55):
Right right, right, So I mean it's it's an unfortunate
uh see, he's uh well, a fortunate one for Russia
and not so for for Ukraine. But that it would
be nice, wouldn't it be nice if if they just
backed off and says, let's be friends and let's make
make good deals.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Referred to to Ukraine as you know, as their brothers.
I know brothers fight, but but not with this intensity. Rick,
Thanks man, appreciate you called interesting points you made Thank.
Speaker 10 (37:23):
You, sir, and have a great vacation.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Talk to thanks much. Uh let me go to Tom
in High End.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Is Tom, you gotta be quick for me because I
only got about a minute and a half for you.
But I don't want you have to wait.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Go ahead, Tom, Hey, good Dan.
Speaker 8 (37:39):
I have a question for you.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Can you can you explain to me what that lady
was talking about.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
Thinking who's gonna take over Alaska?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I wasn't sure, but that this is a night where
all points of view are very welcome.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
And uh, I think I don't think he's going to
take over Alaska. We we bought a Clarence Square in
eighteen sixty seven.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
I don't think you. Let's put it this way. I
don't think you have the intestinal fortitudes to take on
the United States.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
I don't even think he.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Could take on the Alaska Army, meaning there was there's
a lot of folks up there with guns on their road.
I think I don't even think would have to in
the middle. They're a pretty independent group of people up
in Alaska.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Well, I'll tell you that some of the comments you
made the guy like the guys that were talking about putin.
Speaker 7 (38:34):
B I mean.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
Trump being you know, a complete failure.
Speaker 8 (38:41):
How do you figure that with the number one country
in the world.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Now, we weren't under out of what's his name, Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I don't think any well, no, look, I've never said
Trump was a complete complete failure.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, not you right, And
I'm not here to debate everybody. There are things that
he's done so far which I commend him.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
For the immigration situation, I think he's He's brought a
lot of these universities which allowed anti Semitis and to
sprout on the campus. A lot of them have paid
millions of dollars, and it looks like Harvard's going to
pay about five hundred million dollars if the stories of
the paper today bill So. I give him credit for
the things he does well, I don't think today was
(39:26):
one of his achievements. Now maybe it will blossom, but
as of this.
Speaker 8 (39:30):
Moment, a lot of things she's done I don't agree with.
But the majority of things.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
She's done I do agree with enough. And I'm sure you.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Probably supported him in sixteen, in twenty and in twenty four, that's.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Absolutely he would have wanted.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Twenty four, he would have wanted twenty if it wasn't. Yeah,
we're not. We're not trying to litigate that one tonight.
We can do plenty of hours on that. We're talking
Alaska and Tom. I got Jim, but I'm flat out
of time, so I got to let you go and
we will talk again.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
I hope that a great weekend. Good night. So we
got some open lines, fill them up.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty one at
six one, seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
I'm happy to talk about this. This is the story
of the night.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
There'll be some news coming up, and I'm gonna follow
what's going on around the world, and we'll be back
with you in about five or six minutes.
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WVS Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, we're taking our plan for tonight and kind of
mixing it up a little bit. The big story this evening,
and not because of what it has resulted in or
what was achieved, but the big story by virtue of
what it is. The Putin Trump summit seems to me,
(00:27):
who have been a big disappointment. I have tried to
watch as much as I could this afternoon, the pumping
circumstance of the arrival, where neither President's Putin or Trump
took a question.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
They stood, posed for some pictures, went into the.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Meeting I guess around three o'clock and they met for
three hours.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Now, again, their.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Time of day is four hours behind us, so when
they landed around I guess two to two thirty was
ten thirty in the morning, and when they went into
their talks, it was.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
About eleven in the morning. In Alaska. It is actually
at one time zone beyond Pacific Coast time. And some
of you probably have heard some excerpts. When they finished,
they came out and they delivered fairly brief talks. Putin
(01:35):
spoke longer than President Trump. It's difficult for me to against.
Putin is speaking in Russian, and you're going to have
an interpreter here. He says lots of nice words, but
nothing of substance. So we're going to play two sound
bites of Vladimir Putin, and then the which would be
(01:56):
the entirety of his statement, and then the state of
the President, which was actually shorter than Putin's no questions.
There's no information that's substantive here, but I want you
to respond to it. I want you to listen to
it and respond to it, and we're going to play
(02:17):
it for you in it's entirety. So the Putin thing
is two parts. Here is part one. It's letter a
please rob.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
This is because our countries, though separated by the oceans,
of close neighbors. So when we've met, when I came
out of the plane and I've said good afternoon, dear neighbor,
very good to see you in good health and to
(02:44):
see you alive, I think that is very neighborly, and
I think that's some kind words that we can say
to each other.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
For clarification, this is a translator for Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Between the Russian island and the US island. There are
only four kilometers apart. We have close neighbors, and it's
a fact. It's also important that Alaska has to do
with our common common history between Russia and the US,
and many positive events have to do with that territory. Still,
there is a tremendous cultural heritage back from the Russian America,
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for example, Orthodox churches and a lot of more than
seven hundred geographical names of Russian origin. During the Second
World War, it was here in Alaska that was the
origin of the legendary air bridge for the supply of
military aircraft and other equipment under the land lease program.
There was a dangerous and treacherous route over the vast
(03:45):
emptiness of ice. However, the pilots of both countries did
everything to bring close to the victory. They reached their
lives and they gave it all for the common victory.
I was just in the city of Magadon in Russia,
and there is a memorial there dedicated to the Russian
and the US pilots. And there are two flags, the
US flag and the Russian flag. And I know that
(04:06):
here as well, there is such a memorial. There is
a military burial place several kilometers away from here. The
Soviet pilots that buried there, who died during that dangerous mission,
were thankful to the citizens and then government the US
for carefully taking care of their memory. I think that's
very worthy and noble. We'll always remember other historical examples
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we're now where countries defeated common enemies together in the
spirit of battle, camaraderie and allship that supported each other
and facilitated each other. I am sure that this heritage
will help us rebuild and foster mutually beneficial and equal
ties at this new stage, even during the hardest conditions.
(04:49):
It is known that there have been no summits between
Russia and the US for four years, and that's a
long time. This time was very hard for buyote relations,
and let's be frank, they fallen to the lowest points
since the Cold War. I think that's not benefiting our
countries and the world as a whole. Disappeared that sooner
(05:13):
or later we had to amend the situation, to move
on from the confrontation to dialog, and in this case,
a personal meeting between the heads of state has been
long overdue. Naturally, under the condition of serious and painstaking
work and this work has been done. In general, me
and President Trump have very good direct contact. We've spoken
(05:36):
multiple times. We spoke frankly on the phone, and Special
Envoy of the President, mister Witcock, traveled out to Russia
several times. Our advisors and heads of foreign ministries kept
in touch all the time. And you know fully well
that one of the central issues was the situation around Ukraine.
(05:59):
We see this drive of the administration and President Trump
personally to help facilitate the resolution of the Ukrainian conflict,
and his strive to get to the croux of the
matter to understand this history is precious.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well, not much there.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
A nice history lesson from Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Okay, not much there at all.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So let's keep rolling the last half of his statement again,
it's about three minutes, and then we'll play Donald Trump's.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
But again, this is Putin.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Trying to draw this great similarity between US and Russia,
geographic similarity. I mean, yeah, it's it is. It has
no relevance to what's going on. It has no relevance
to the losses that both Ukraine and Russia have suffered
during this war, which was initiated fully, totally, completely by
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Russia Part B of Putin.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Please, rob, As I've said, the situation in Ukraine has
to do with fundamental threats to our security. Moreover, we've
always considered the Ukrainian nation, and I've said it multiple times,
a broadly nation. How very strange it may sound, in
these conditions, we have the same roots, and everything that's
happening is a tragedy for us and terrible wound. Therefore,
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the country is sincerely interested in putting an end to it.
The same time, we're convinced that in order to make
the settlement lasting and long term, we need to eliminate
all the primary roots, the primary causes of that conflict,
and we've said it multiple times, to consider all legitimate
(07:39):
concerns of Russia and to reinstate a just balance of
security in Europe and in world on the whole, and
agree with President Trump as he is said today that
naturally the security of Ukraine should be insured as well.
Naturally we are prepared to work on that. I would
like to hope that the agreement that we've each together
(08:00):
will help us bring close to that goal and will
pave the path towards peace in Ukraine. We expect that
Kiev and European capitals will perceive that constructively and that
they won't throw a ranch in the works. They will
not make any attempts to use some backroom dealings to
conduct provocations to torpedo. The nascent progress, incidentally, when the
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new administration came to power by let all trades are
ready to grow is still very symbolic. Still we have
a growth of twenty percent. As I've said, we have
a lot of dimensions for joint work. It is clear
that the US and Russian Investment and Business Corporation has
tremendous potential. Russia and the US can offer each other
(08:46):
so much in trade, digital high tech and in space exploration.
We see that Arctic corporation is also very possible. And
our international context, for example between the forest of Russia
and the west coast of the US. Overall, it's very
important for our countries to turn the page to go
(09:07):
back to cooperation. It is symbolic that not far away
from here, at the border between Russia and the US,
there is a so called international dateline. I think you
can step over literally from yesterday into tomorrow, and I
hope that will succeed in that in political sphere. I
would like to thank President Trump for our joint work,
(09:30):
for the well wishing and trustworthy tone of our conversation.
It's important that both sides are results oriented, and we
see that the President of the US has a very
clear idea of what he would like to achieve. He
sincerely cares about prosperity of his nation. Still he understands
that Russia has its own national interests. I expect that
(09:51):
today's agreements will be the starting point not only for
the solution of the Ukrainian issue, but also will help
us bring back businesslike and pragmatic relations between Russia and
the US. And in the end, I would like to
add one more thing. I'd like to remind you that
in twenty twenty two, during the last contact with the
previous administration, I tried to convince my previous American colleague
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it should not the situation should not be brought to
the point of no return when it would come to hostilities,
and has said it quite directly back then that it's
a big mistake today when President Trump saying that if
he was the president back then, there will be no war,
and I'm quite sure that it would indeed be so,
(10:37):
and I can confirm that I think that overall me
and President Trump have built a very good, business like
and trustworthy contact, and I have every reason to believe
that moving down this path, we can't come and suited
better to the end of the conflict in Ukraine. Thank you,
(10:57):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Agreement twice, never defined, it, never alluded to it, never
suggested what that agreement was. I don't really think there's
much of an agreement other than just some nice words
going back and forth. That's why I think it's was
a disappointment. I would also say, actually the equivalent of
a nothing burger. Now, maybe maybe there's something they're not
(11:21):
telling us. We'll hear from President Trump's words in its entirety,
and then we're going to go to phone call. So
if you want to comment on what either or both
said or didn't say six one, seven, two, five, four
ten thirty six seven nine, three, one ten thirty, President
Trump will come up right after the.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Break night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Okay, so we heard from Vladimir Putin. This is President Trump,
who also provided very few, if any details. If any
of you can find anything in this statement that you
can hang your hat on. Please let us know this
is cut Sea Rout.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Well, thank you very much, mis the President. That was
very profound, and I will say that I believe we
had a very productive meeting. There were many many points
that we agreed on. Most of them, I would say,
a couple of big ones that we haven't quite gotten there,
but we've made some headway. So there's no deal until
(12:23):
there's a deal. I will call up NATO in a
little while, I will call up the various people that
I think are appropriate, and of course call up Presidents
Olensky and tell them about today's meeting. It's ultimately up
to them, and I have to agree with what Marco
and Steve and some of the great people from the
(12:45):
Trump administration who've come here Scott and John Ratcliffe, thank
you very much. But we have some of our really
great leaders. They've been doing a phenomenal job. We also
have some tremendous Russian business representatives here, and I think
you know, everybody wants to deal with us. We've become
the hottest country anywhere in the world at a very
(13:07):
short period of time, and we look forward to that.
We look forward to dealing. We're going to try and
get this over with. We really made some great progress today.
I've always had a fantastic relationship.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
With President Putin.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
With Vladimir, we had many, many tough meetings, good meetings.
We were interfered with by the Russia Russia Russia hoax.
It made it a little bit tougher to deal with,
but he understood it. I think he's probably seen things
like that during the course of his career. He's seen
(13:44):
it all. But we had to put up with the
Russia Russia Russia hoax. He knew it was a hoax,
and I knew it was a hoax. But what was
done was very criminal. But it made it harder for
us to deal as a country in terms of the
business and all of the things that would like to
have dealt with. But we'll have a good chance when
this is over. So just to put it very quickly,
(14:04):
I'm going to start making a few phone calls and
tell them what happened. But we had an extremely productive
meeting and many points were agreed to. There are just
a very few that are left. Some are not that significant.
One is probably the most significant. But we have a
very good chance of getting there. We didn't get there,
(14:25):
but we have a very good chance of getting there.
I would like to thank President Putin and his entire team,
whose faces, who I know in many cases otherwise other
than that, whose faces I get to see you all
the time in the newspapers. You're very You're almost as
famous as the boss, but especially this one right over here.
(14:46):
But we had some good meetings over the years, right,
good productive meetings over the years, and.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
We hope to have that in the future. That let's
do the.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Most productive one right now. We're going to stop really
five six, seven thousand, thousands of people from being killed,
and President Putin wants to see that as much as
I do. So again, mister President, i'd like to thank
you very much, and we'll speak to you very soon
and probably see you again very soon.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Thank you very much, Vladimir next time in Moscow.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Oh that's an interesting one. No, no, I'll get a little
heat on.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
That one, but I could see it possibly happening. Thank
you very much, Latimer, and thank you all, thank you,
thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
No questions, well there were questions, but no answers to
the questions. So I want to hear from you. We're
going to go to our news at the bottom of
the hour. You have now heard in their entirety these
statements that were made both by Vladimir Putin and Donald
Trump following the three hour meeting. Putin referred to agreement
(15:53):
President Trump productive meeting. I don't see any evidence of
that there was. There are no leaks. There will be leaks,
but there are no leaks so far to tell us.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Where they agreed. Maybe they maybe they agreed they both
liked ice cream. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
There was nothing of substance that came out of that meeting.
No ceasefire, No thousands of lives will be saved, but
there'll be no ceasefire.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
The question is when does Russia launch more missiles on Ukraine,
and I would suspect that it will be within the
next few hours. Very frustrating.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I think the mistake that was made here that this meeting,
for whatever reason, was scheduled in a hurried fashion.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
There was no groundwork done.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Normally, when they have these summits, there's the groundwork that's
done and the agreements are made and the summit essentially
then becomes simply a spectacle to confirm what has been done.
There was there was no pre meet there. There was
no time for prev and everything to do to figure
out the airline schedules and at what time they could
(17:04):
how they both could get to Anchorage, Alaska within fifteen
minutes of each other. Let's go to the phones right
after the news break six one seven, four ten thirty,
six one seven, nine thirty. I think this was a
huge build up, a huge build up, and nothing. Nothing
seems to have been accomplished with any specificity. You can
(17:27):
agree or disagree. Uh, And if you're thrilled with the
result today, please tell me what you're thrilled about.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Coming back on nightside right after the news at the bottom.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Of the hour, and you're on night Side with Dan
Ray on YOUBZ Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Okay, so you've heard from Vladimir Putin In it's in
its entirety through a translator. You heard from President Trump.
I find nothing, nothing in the comments to hang a
hat on. Maybe some of you are are feeling better
about this. I think that in the next day or two.
(18:08):
I mean, if all of a sudden, somehow Putin has
agreed to doesn't want to agree to a cease fire,
and is going to forbear from continuing to attack but
I don't think that's necessarily so it's it's mystifying. The
only lines that are open are six one. Let me
(18:30):
start it off with Lawrence in West Roxbury and Lawrence,
if I'm not mistaken, you're a military veteran.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
That's Trent.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Go right ahead, Lawrence, what do you think of this
of this meeting?
Speaker 7 (18:43):
I agree, I agree with you that nothing come out
of this meeting. And the reason that the niceties during
the period after the meeting was that's all they could achieve.
I have to say to you, is this President of
the United States, when he became president, knew nothing about
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international relations of foreign affairs, and from my point of view,
he hasn't learned anything during that time. And you know,
we go back to President Roosevelt, Harry Truman, and Dwight Eisenhower.
(19:31):
You don't see any of that. And President Trump and
the people around him are not like George Marshall or
Dean Atchison or John Fosterdella. There's zeros compared to them,
and that's what we're up against. And you know, I'm
(19:51):
worried every day that these people don't make some great
mistake and we end up in a real difficult situation.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
That's a concern.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I will say this, if you go back to Yalta
and you talk about Roosevelt Churchill in Stalin, I think
that Stalin was victorious at Yalta. His troops were able
to occupy Eastern Europe for almost a half a century
as a result of the agreements at Yalta. I don't
(20:21):
think that rosel covered himself or Churchill covered themselves in glory. Now,
maybe they had no option at that point that with
you know, World War II coming.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
To an end.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
Well, you can say that if you'd like, mister Ray,
But the fact of the matter is that we were
still learning about the Soviet Union at that time and
what that meant.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
If I could disagree with you, Lawrence, the Soviet Union
in nineteen thirty nine had joined with Hitler and Nazi
Germany to invade Poland on September first, nineteen thirty nine,
and only when Hitler turned on Stalin did Stalin decide
to fight against Hitler. So, you know, again, I'm just
(21:08):
I'm just trying to be fair as an umpire and
call it, you know, right down the middle. I'm I'm
agreeing with you. I think that there was nothing accomplished today.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Now I also need to point out to you is
that this guy who missed Trump faced today was raised
in the KGB.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I'm very much aware of that, very much aware of that.
I hope you, hope you realize that's not news to me.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
People in this country need to be aware of that.
I think most people.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Do understand that. To be honest with you, Lawrence, I.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Don't think I'm sorry, but I don't dis I disagree
with you.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
There Again, I don't have a poll to prove it.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
All I can tell you is that he has been
a fixture now as the head of Russia for you know,
nearly thirty years after after you know, the brief respite
of Gorbachev in Yeltsin, He's back in control.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
He I think everyone knows that.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
He has said the greatest tragedy of the twentieth century
was the disillusion of the Soviet Union. Obviously we see
that quite differently. That's all I mean. I agree with
you and today and I just felt that Stalin basically
had the best of the Altar conference with Roosevelt in Churchill,
(22:27):
two men who I admire, But I think maybe they
felt at that point that we as a country in
Britain as a country were so tired of war that
we weren't interested in after having defeated Hitler to go
to war with Stalin. I'm sure that's what the historians
would say, but I just wanted to make sure that
that at least today nothing was seated as far as
(22:50):
we know to put. Let's hope that's not the case.
I think you and I are on the same side
of the street here in our perspective of what didn't
happen today.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Well, one of the things you said, I think if
you go and look at our archives, some of the
information that Dwight Eisenhower, Douglas mccoppa, nimitsuh that they're not there.
They're they're they've been moved to put it, but they
were very very direct, and they're feeling about mister Roosevelts
(23:25):
and its associates at Y also, I'll let that.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
One hang in the air. Thanks so much, Laurence, appreciate
your call.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
I hav a nice night, sir, you too, Thanks.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
For your call.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
You're welcome here anytime six one seven thirty or six
one seven. Let me go to Kennon Waltham. Ken you
were next on Nitsacker right.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Ahead, Hi Dan, Yeah, I think Putin accomplished a little bit.
Unfortunately from his perspective, he's trying to avoid or delay
further US sanctions. You know, he goes to these meetings,
announces there's some sort of agreement and and Trump says,
(24:07):
you know, now I need to talk to Ukraine and Europe.
I mean, the sanctions are supposed to take place.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
A week ago.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
They'll be further delays. So I think Putin has small ya.
I has nothing to lose by coming to this and
trying to make that happen. And potentially he can say
to his own people, well we did have some agreements,
and Trump talked to Ukraine and Europe and they mixed it,
so that might have some impact with his own people
(24:34):
of his own country. That's that's a bit of a
reach on my part, I think, But maybe they're so.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I think that the Russian people have to be getting
weary of what's.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Going on in Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I mean, I'm I've followed it fairly closely. They have
North Korean troops in there, They've been slatted by the Ukrainians.
They have North Koreans now working in their factories, they're
they're having trouble conscripting, you know, people for the Warrior.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Great.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I meant they have their old set of problems as well.
But yeah, I don't know that either one of them
came out of it with much today. Because if Putin
starts to bomb Ukraine later tonight or tomorrow, any hopes
that maybe there was some sort of let's let's, you know,
(25:25):
let's take seventy two.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
There was nothing that could have been agreed upon, ken,
I just don't I'm trying to. I listened very carefully
to their remarks, and I heard nothing. I got a
history lesson about American pilots and Russian pilots in World
War Two. Okay, fine, that's interesting. Wasn't aware of that,
but it was. It was a historic history lesson and
(25:51):
Trump saying, well, you know, lives will be saved, thousands
of lives will be saved based on what.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
So I think the other thing. I mean, we talked
last night, and you know, I had mentioned something about,
you know, negotiating private announced results in public, and there's
such a build up of this meeting where you know,
Trump has to confer with Ukraine and Europe. I mean
he can't announce anything. I mean, you know this being
(26:22):
built up in public. I think it was a disaster
and a mistake. It was just a mistake.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Well it's also a mistake.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I think that that Putin asked for this meeting maybe
ten days ago, if you know, I don't know, it
was much longer than that. And all of a sudden,
the meeting is scheduled for Alaska a few days later.
And it was It was interesting. I mean, the stage
craft was great, the planes landed at the right time,
they walked down the red carpet, they shook hands, they
(26:51):
smiled somewhat, and they sat for three hours. And when
I heard they were over at three hours, I thought,
this is not going to be good in terms of
having something on substance out of it. I think it was.
It has to be considered a disappointment. Now, let's see
what Putin does in the next twenty four to forty
(27:13):
eight hours. That will be interesting. If he goes back
to bombing Ukraine, then it's going to really give lie
to what both of them wanted to suggest tonight. There
was nothing there in my opinion. Now, unless he has
some sort of private assurance from Putin that he will
(27:36):
full be here from launching anything for you know, the
next seventy two hours. And in the meantime, Tump's Trump's
job is to go alert everybody in Europe that things
are going in the right. I don't know, maybe maybe
there's something we're unaway n but I've never seen a
summit that ended and they held press conferences, they didn't
(27:57):
take questions, and the place was full of questions because
they said nothing of substance. I'm talking too long, Go
right ahead, Ken, I'm.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Sorry, no, I I'm you know, it's possible that some
fantastic preliminary agreements were reached and all Trump has to
do is, you know, talk to Ukraine and Europe. I'll
improve it, and off we go. But that seems very
very unlikely. And and you're reading, you know, all the
(28:26):
sort of the hand language and everything going on. I
think you're right. The other the other thing I wanted
to mention, though, Danish. You asked me last night what
I thought Trump was going to say, and I said,
he's not gonna He's going to say progress was made,
and he's not going to mention any specifics, right.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Well, that's all that, that's all that he said, right.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Right, But let me just say, even though I think
this whole thing to disaster, you know how anti Trump
I am, given the situation, no matter how well things
went or how poorly things went, I think that was
the right thing to say. You know, there's no reason
to oversell this when you don't have your Grain or
Europe on board. If it was a total disaster, he
(29:12):
shouldn't get up there and say this was a total disaster.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Actually, well he had also said that that if he
felt there was no way forward, he would not have
a press conference and he would leave. I mean, he
was talking to everybody in the plane coming over, answering
any question that anyone asked him. It'll be interesting to
find out the plane has been in the air now
for a couple of hours, for an hour, it'll be
interesting to see if there's been any accessibility on that
(29:39):
White House traveling press corps, and if there's any sound
that eventuates before the night is over, we'll try to
follow it. But as of this moment, that's all I got.
And if anyone wants to say, it was wonderful that
they met and they didn't you know, punch each other
(29:59):
in knows. I guess you could say that's a.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Good thing, but you know what I think. But I
think's happening here dan is you actually had some expectations
and you're disappointed. I had absolutely no expectations and thought
it could be even worse. And I'm just happy that Trump,
at least, given that I think he's a disaster, said
(30:23):
what the only thing I think he should have said,
And I kind of think that's where we are.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Well, I mean in I'm always half a glasses half
full guy. Okay, I think that when it comes to Trump,
you're a glasses half empty guy. So I'm always thinking
to myself, Okay, let's let's see if there's something here
that I've missed and I haven't heard it yet, but
(30:51):
I'm prepared if if by tomorrow Russian Russia has has
told the troops to stop, and that there's some some
form of a if not a cease fire, at at
least a forty eight hour respite or something.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
If if if tonight right now Russian missiles are being
launched at Ukraine, well that settles it. But I always
would love to leave open the possibility, just the possibility
that some progress in the right direction was made. I mean,
it's better that they met than they did that they
(31:33):
didn't meet. I wish they would have been better prepared
and the agreements had been made. Ken, thank you as always,
appreciate your call.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Dan, Thank you, Talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Okay, quick break here one line at six one seven
four ten thirty and two at six one seven nine
three thirty. Coming right back on the Night's Side right
after the break. We can talk about this for a
while if there's an appetite for it. If there isn't,
we can move on the The who have generally Trump
supporters here are pretty quiet tonight, and that says a
(32:05):
lot to me.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
We'll be back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray and Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Okay, let's try to get everybody in the lines have
lit up, which is great. Susannah Newton, Suzanne, next on Nightside.
Your thought on what did not or did happen tonight?
Speaker 8 (32:22):
Well, thanks Dan, I'm very proud of our President Donald J. Trump. Okay,
he did write the book, the author of the Deal.
He met in person in Alaska with Vladimir Putin. He
did not, you know, make a fool of himself or
(32:43):
didn't make a fool of himself either. They may not
have come to agreement, but I think they made great progress.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Well, they said they made progress. They tell us what
that progress was. That's what I'm concerned.
Speaker 8 (32:58):
I don't think they're going to broadcast that all over
the news tonight or tomorrow. You don't. I mean, if
stuttle Trump one air Force, Sward attorney to wash it,
they take questions for t it's gonna go right back
(33:19):
to Moscow into the Palace. I don't I think they're
going to think about it all that are both of them?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Okay, Well maybe maybe they will, and you can call
back and tell us that I was wrong. But as
of now, I have nothing to hang my hat on,
and I'm looking for something to hang my hat on.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Thanks is in?
Speaker 8 (33:40):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
All right? Good night.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Let me go next to Sandra in Carver down on
the cape. Hey, Sandra, down towards the cape. Hi, Sandra,
how are you good?
Speaker 9 (33:49):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I'm great? What's you think about today?
Speaker 9 (33:51):
I put my call? Well, first of all, Trump put
on a red carpet with a military flyover for a
murderer and I can't believe the military I did that.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
But however, well he's the commander in chief.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
They have to do primarilybody says, and I think that
they were following orders.
Speaker 9 (34:07):
Okay, No, Anyways, you had mentioned that Howton's been in
for thirty years. The only reason he's in he's killed
all the people that ran against him. He's poisoned him
and stuff like that. And I got very ill at
ease when I heard they were going into Alaska, because
I've really had a feeling Newton was going to end
up in Alaska. But anyways, I think the Canadians need
(34:30):
to really show up their borders, real tests. Trump can't
be trusted. We do not eat Russia and Alaska. And
that's really almost I have to say. I'm just a
little bit concerned about the Epstein saying also that nothing
you know, this crony of Epstein is now in a
minimum security prison, which I don't agree with.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
All Right, you said a lot in a brief period
of time, which makes you the best.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Caller of the night.
Speaker 9 (34:56):
Why, thank you. I try to do the best. Take
care you do.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Great, Thanks Andrew, I keep calling that right, Great night,
good night, Let's keep rolling.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
You're going to go to Rick Bill Rick and Rick next. Nice,
I go.
Speaker 10 (35:06):
Ahead, Damn, how are you tonight?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I'm confused, Well, don't.
Speaker 10 (35:13):
I wouldn't worry too much. I think I think it
was the best he can do. I think Ken said
it beautifully what I was feeling and what I was
almost saying perfectly. Ken Ken did it for me. So
I'm just going to add on to what he said.
And I even like what Suzanne just said a moment ago.
You just said a moment ago, you're a half glass full.
And I think Trump is certainly that it's going to
(35:36):
take many meetings, probably by what you said also about
the possibility of bombing in seventy two hours bothers me too.
Let's see if this guy Putin has some restraint and
respect for once.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
And I mean, well, the clock is running.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I mean, if we wake up tomorrow morning and find
out that Kiev was bombed overnight, that's going to say
a lot.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
If we wake up too all with them.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
And the media tells us for the first time and
in months there were no bombs, you know, no missiles.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Fired at Ukraine, that'll tell us something too.
Speaker 10 (36:11):
Let's see, well, well, true, I certainly, I certainly hope. No,
let's let's hope and pray that that isn't the case.
They need to bring the Zelensky to the table, and
I don't like I think Zolensky had every right the
first time around with Trump to say I don't like
what what you have to offer because it was too
pro potent, way too pro potent. Be nice to get
(36:31):
the don boss back. And it'd be pretty much nice
if they could just give each other this pots back,
crime risk, CRIMEA. It needs to be kept out well,
it doesn't need to be kept what that was acquired
under what's his name was?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
It was taken It was taken during the Obama administration
in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 10 (36:55):
Right right, right, So I mean it's it's an unfortunate
uh see, he's uh well, a fortunate one for Russia
and not so for for Ukraine. But that it would
be nice, wouldn't it be nice if if they just
backed off and says, let's be friends and let's make
make good deals.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Referred to to Ukraine as you know, as their brothers.
I know brothers fight, but but not with this intensity. Rick,
Thanks man, appreciate you called interesting points you made Thank.
Speaker 10 (37:23):
You, sir, and have a great vacation.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Talk to thanks much. Uh let me go to Tom
in High End.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Is Tom, you gotta be quick for me because I
only got about a minute and a half for you.
But I don't want you have to wait.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Go ahead, Tom, Hey, good Dan.
Speaker 8 (37:39):
I have a question for you.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Can you can you explain to me what that lady
was talking about.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
Thinking who's gonna take over Alaska?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I wasn't sure, but that this is a night where
all points of view are very welcome.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
And uh, I think I don't think he's going to
take over Alaska. We we bought a Clarence Square in
eighteen sixty seven.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
I don't think you. Let's put it this way. I
don't think you have the intestinal fortitudes to take on
the United States.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
I don't even think he.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Could take on the Alaska Army, meaning there was there's
a lot of folks up there with guns on their road.
I think I don't even think would have to in
the middle. They're a pretty independent group of people up
in Alaska.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Well, I'll tell you that some of the comments you
made the guy like the guys that were talking about putin.
Speaker 7 (38:34):
B I mean.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
Trump being you know, a complete failure.
Speaker 8 (38:41):
How do you figure that with the number one country
in the world.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Now, we weren't under out of what's his name, Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I don't think any well, no, look, I've never said
Trump was a complete complete failure.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, not you right, And
I'm not here to debate everybody. There are things that
he's done so far which I commend him.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
For the immigration situation, I think he's He's brought a
lot of these universities which allowed anti Semitis and to
sprout on the campus. A lot of them have paid
millions of dollars, and it looks like Harvard's going to
pay about five hundred million dollars if the stories of
the paper today bill So. I give him credit for
the things he does well, I don't think today was
(39:26):
one of his achievements. Now maybe it will blossom, but
as of this.
Speaker 8 (39:30):
Moment, a lot of things she's done I don't agree with.
But the majority of things.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
She's done I do agree with enough. And I'm sure you.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Probably supported him in sixteen, in twenty and in twenty four, that's.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Absolutely he would have wanted.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Twenty four, he would have wanted twenty if it wasn't. Yeah,
we're not. We're not trying to litigate that one tonight.
We can do plenty of hours on that. We're talking
Alaska and Tom. I got Jim, but I'm flat out
of time, so I got to let you go and
we will talk again.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
I hope that a great weekend. Good night. So we
got some open lines, fill them up.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty one at
six one, seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
I'm happy to talk about this. This is the story
of the night.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
There'll be some news coming up, and I'm gonna follow
what's going on around the world, and we'll be back
with you in about five or six minutes.
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