August 11, 2025 • 40 mins
President Trump held a press conference announcing what he calls, “liberation day in DC” where he announced his plan to crackdown on violent crime in the nation’s capital. Despite preliminary year-to-date crime comparisons from Washington’s Metropolitan Police Department that show overall crime in D.C. has decreased by 7% since last year, with violent crime down 26% and property crime reduced by 5%, Trump placed DC Police under federal control and activated the National Guard to combat what he said was a wave of lawlessness. Do you think the federal government needs to get involved with local DC crime?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
His Nightside with Dan Rays Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Now the Dan the Star Lefty for the Red Sox.
Cruchet proved himself to be human tonight. Tough night, Yeah,
tough tough one on This could be three in a row.
But they're still alive. They're still alive, no doubt about it.
Thanks Dan, appreciate it all right. So today President Trump
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held a wide ranging news conference. The purpose of the
news conference was to announce that he was going to
in effect federalize law enforcement in in Washington, d C.
I happen to think it was a good decision, and
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I'll tell you why in a moment. But I'd love
to think here what some of you think. I suspect
most of you who support Donald Trump would agree that
was a good decision, and I suspect many of you
who don't like Donald Trump would feel it was a
bad decision. But what the President announced today at his
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news conference, which was at eleven o'clock, was exactly this.
So let me play. First of all, Rob, this is
cut thirty seven.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
And we're here for a very serious purpose, very serious verpose.
Something's out of control, but we're going to put it
in control very quickly, like we did on the southern border.
I'm announcing a historic action to rescue our nation's capital
from crime, bloodshed, bedlam, and squalor and worse.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
This is Liberation Day in DC, and.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
We're going to take our capital back. We're taking it
back under the authorities vested in me as the President
of the United States. I'm officially invoking Section sevent forty
of the District of MBA Home Rule Act, you know
what that is, and placing the DC Metropolitan Police Department
under direct federal control. And you'll be meeting the people
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that will be directly involved with that.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, there was a an effort by many today to
point out that crime in the District of Columbia has
been on dropping in the last couple of years, and
those statistics are interesting. I do not believe that it
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negates the necessity for what the President has done. But
just think about this for a few moments as we
go here. Okay, President Trump sent troops, national Guard, Federalized
National Guard, California National Guard troops. He had some marines
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in the area of Los Angeles, and things quieted down
in LA pretty quickly. I don't know, maybe it was
a coincidence, Maybe it wasn't okay. He has eight hundred
troops National Guard troops coming next week. He is now
taking control of the DC Police Department, which is badly understaffed.
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I was listening today to a commentary by the Union head.
Sounds very much like Boston. They are apparently up for
four thousand police officers and they are down about eight
hundred police officers in the District of Columbia in Washington,
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d C. Which is the nation's capital. Just think, in
recent weeks, and in recent months and in recent years,
here's a few high profile crimes. These are the crimes
that we hear about. There are hundreds of crimes that
we don't hear about, carjackings, robberies, rapes. I want to
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acknowledge Eric Taupinion Jacques Jackin of Granby, Massachusetts me. You
may not recognize his name. He is a rising junior
at UMass Amherst. He was serving as an intern in
the office of a congressman from Kansas named wrong Esd's.
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He was shot to death in a crossfire. Just happened
to be on the wrong street corner at the wrong
time when gunfire broke out. I watched his mom being
interviewed Tonight Ted Wayman from Channel five to the Great
Peace with her. Just a few weeks ago, you had
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the murders of two members of the Israeli embassy, your
own Lishinsky and Sarah Milgram. They were due to be engaged,
and this guy, Elias Rodriguez, flew from Chicago with his
gun on him on the plane and as he shot them,
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he said free Palestine. So we know what his what
his purpose was. They were. They were just shot down
in cold blood at nine o'clock at night. These are
not people who were dealing with drugs or anything like that.
These are people who were just trying to conduct their lives.
When I think of other high profile cases, a couple
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of years ago, running back for the Washington Commanders, Brian Robinson,
he was shot in an attempted robbery by a fourteen
year old and a seventeen year old. I mean, you know,
it's crazy, It's crazy. A Democratic congresswoman was attacked in
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her own apartment building, Angie Craig. I think she's from
New Jersey. Henry Quaar, Democratic congressman from Texas. He was
a victim of carjacking in October of twenty twenty three.
So the President today kind of laid it out. He
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talked here about deploying the National Guard. They're apparently eight
hundred guardsmen who have been activated. He can activate. He
can do this for thirty days, but then he has
to have congressional approval cut thirty seven A.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
In addition, I'm deploying the National Guard to help re
establish law order of public safety in Washington, d C.
And they're going to be allowed to do their job properly.
And you people are victims of it too. You know
your reporters, and I understand a lot of you tend
to be on the liberal side, but you don't want
to get You don't want to get mugged and raped
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and shot and killed. And you all know people and
friends of yours that happened, and so you can be
any anything you want, but you want to have safety
in the streets.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You want to be able to leave.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Your apartment or your house where you live and feel
safe and go into a store to buy a newspaper
or buy something.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And you don't have that now.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Washington, d C. Is not a huge city by you know,
by standardszone like Los Angeles or Chicago or New York.
But it is the capital of our country. Now there
has been some response today. In two thousand and three,
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there were two hundred and seventy four people killed homicide
victims in Washington, DC. In twenty twenty four dropped to
one eighty seven. That's a thirty two percent drop. Obviously,
the two thousand and five numbers are still being calculated.
A drop in what's called sex abuse, a drop in
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assault with a dangerous weapon, been, a drop in robbery,
drop in violent crime. I'm not sure how safe a
city this is. I can put it in some context
for you. Okay, here's the context. In twenty and twelve,
there were fewer than one hundred homicides in Washington, d C.
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Now I'm not saying that that's good, bad, or indifferent,
but that's the number. By twenty fifteen, that number had
jumped up to one hundred and seventy five, and by
twenty twenty it was over two hundred. So it was up,
up and up, and it was down, as they said,
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from twenty three to twenty twenty four. But I think
it was well justified what the president did. I'd love
to hear from you on this. This president is a
different president Okay. Other presidents, including himself who served from
twenty seventeen to twenty one to twenty twenty one, never
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did anything like this. The Bushes, well, I mean, you know,
let's just go back to the turn of the century.
George Bush forty three never focus. His focus was on
Afghanistan in Iraq. President Obama I don't think paid much
attention to this. I don't think his attorney general did.
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President Trump, I think was dealing with other things. I
don't recall him talking much about crime in Washington, DC.
Joe Biden didn't do anything, and Donald Trump has if
he can turn around and make Washington as a city
that I think they have something like five million tourists
a year, some incredible number of people. People come there
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from all over the country. Kids come there. Just think
of some of the I mentioned high profile cases. Those
are the cases that are being reported six one, seven, two, five, four, ten,
thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. I
would like to talk about this for a while. I've
told you all along I will criticize Donald Trump when
I believe he is wrong, and I will support him
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when I think he's right. There can be no harm
to come from this action, if anything, maybe there would
be message sent now. Some people might decide to leave,
some criminals might decide to leave Washington. But Washington, I
think a month from now will be a safer city.
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I hope. So, I hope. So let's keep these phone
lines going and we're going to talk about this for
a while. I think it's very important, and I think
the President has done the right thing today. I know
who'll be criticized for it. But guess what crime is
too rampant in this country? And it's it has it's
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crime that's committed by people who are here illegally, by
people who were born here and people who came here.
There's no group of people that comes is here who
has never never committed a crime. I'm not blaming this
on illegals. I'm not blaming it on new arrivals. I'm
not blaming it on people who have been here for
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some reason. We have a crime problem in America with
a most generous society to support people who need help,
and yet crime exists in America, and it exists at
a rate which is unacceptable. Coming back on night Side.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Boston's news radio back.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
To the phones we go talking about what President Trump
did today in Washington. I can't find fault with it.
Maybe you can let me go to John and ded
On you first up this our night side. Welcome Dan.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
But we always say the number one job of the government,
primary responsibility, is to do a protective citizens, and the
Democrats have just failed miserably since I can remember, I
don't understand the thing for defunding the police, no cash bail.
It just goes on and on with the Democrats. And
I said this before that during the Biden administration, the
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two demographics that benefit of the most were illegal and criminals.
And those Democrats who are trying to say that Washington,
d C. Is not a mess of the same people
who were saying Biden was confident, and I think I
think they've they've lost anybody with any common sense. Do
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you know vote he thought the Democrats will Bill Clinton
or jfk or Waybeth. This is a breed we've never seen.
But I've never seen before what they're doing today. I
just cannot, as you can say, I can't come up
with words to describe what are they thinking? And you
hit it on the head about which crimes are being reported,
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which crimes are not being reported. There's so many crimes
that are not being reported. And they always fudge the
numbers so it makes them look good. That's all they
care about. They don't care about people, They care about
the numbers. Just trying to get the vote. And what's
the attorney is it? The Attorney general? Janey something that
I can't remember her name?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Well, the attorney general was PAYM. Bondi. The US attorney
down there is Genie heiro j.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
She was on saying that these can't sixteen seventeen year
olds with a gun, that she can't touch them. Did
you hear that about you have?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I mean, look, there is a trend. For example, you
know here in Massachusetts. We talked last week with a
Tim Kruz, who's the district attorney in Plymouth County. Very
smart guy and in my opinion, a good guy, a
really good guy who was interested in the protection of his,
you know, his constituents. The Massachusetts State Supreme Court, in
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a four to three decision came down with a very
important decision. It's called the Madness decision, which essentially said
that people who committed murder obviously when we're talking murder.
You're talking about the most serious crime if they do
it when they're eighteen, nineteen or twenty. And in the
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old standards was you're convicted from murder and you were
sent to life without parole. But the Supreme Court and
their infinite wisdom said that in Massachusetts, now they're going
to go they will go back and look at all
of those cases where individuals were convicted from murder at
the age of eighteen, nineteen or twenty, and they now
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will have automatic parole eligibility, which means that some of
them are going to get back out and not spend
their entire life in prison number one. And it also
means that the family members of the victims are going
to have to go to parole hearings and testify that
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they don't want these people released. So, you know, it's
like then nightmare which they thought was over because the
individual who killed their mom or their dad, or their
son and their daughter or their brother or their sister
or whatever was going to be gone away for their life.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Not so you know, well, I think again they don't.
There's no accountability with the Democrats. I mean, I still
I believe if you have the evidence capital punishment if
you you've shown the capability to murder someone. I'm not
talking about man's flaughter sometimes it's self planned. I'm talking
about murder.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Well, I'm even willing to go further, one further than that,
and that is that in my world, not only do
you have to convince one beyond a reasonable doubt, but
you have to show that there is uh some some
specific uh uh aggravating circumstance in the crime. And you
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also have to be convinced beyond a scintilla of doubt,
which is a high, high standard. And I can cite
cases for you where people committed horrible crimes against children
that you know, they'll sit on death row for twenty
five years and hope that they die in natural death
or hope that some governor comes along and commits their sentence.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
And we've had that conversation before about how good some
of these people on death row have it.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah, a lot of homeless, Well they get they get
to uh you know, they they can friends can visit them,
their their their spiritual advisors can visit them. It's like,
you know, but.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
The doing that great uh complaint.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I mean he's laughing. I mean it's been what now
it's twenty thirteen and we're two thousands, So now we're
twelve years past them. How many years? How many more years?
Is he going to live a long time? Long time?
Unless they had decided to throw the switch now, Joe Biden,
even Joe Biden refused to commute his sentence, along along
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with that of the guy that attacked the synagogue in
Pittsburgh and the guy who killed the white racist down
in uh, South Carolina, who killed the nine older black
parishioners who he prayed with. Then he walked back outside
and came back and killed nine of them.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
I think even if you show the capability that you
could you could be commit a violent act against somebody,
we hear somebody, they may not have killed somebody or
somebody's heinous crimes how much. I mean, look, look what
happened that Cincinnati attack. It's gone away. You know what happened?
How with that, it's gone away.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Unbelievable, yep, absolutely, And it's got nothing to do with
the racial element of it. This was this was a crowd,
a crowd that was out of control, as simple as that.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
All right, John killed, that's all. What was that you
hit about the racial thing. We always have to look
at it black and white. How about we just look
at that human beings are getting killed or harmed.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Exactly exactly once you interject races race into it. First
of all, it's unfair to people of whatever race was
involved in the attack. They represent a small minority of
that particular race. So you shouldn't inject it because of that.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
And it only fuels racism. Uh. It's bad people attacking
innocent people and losing control. Anyway, John got to run.
Thank you much, appreciate it. Thank you all right. I
want to hear from you. If you think Donald Trump
did the wrong thing today, fine, let me let me
have it. Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.
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Couple of lines have dropped off unfortunately, or six months
or seven six one, seven, nine three one ten thirty
six one, seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. Coming right
back on night, Jodd, You're on nine with Dan Ray.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I'm going Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
You're going to pick the pace up a little bit.
Patrick in the District of Columbia calling from Washington. Patrick,
what does you think of the president's announcement today?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Well, as a matter of fact, I'll be honest with you.
I didn't listen to it because he said he was
going to take care of it on Monday, and I said,
I bet you will. I know you will. Why didn't
have to worry about a darn thing? Because it is
evidence in front of everybody that our nation's capital is
a mess and a disgrace and it has no business
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being that way. And I will point the fingers strongly
at excuse me, it's not a bad term, but the
DC government is run like a jungle path government, and
it's got to be dealt with. It's going on to wall.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
It's what's run by. What type of government?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Did you say a jungle path government?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
A jungle I'm trying to understand. What do you mean
by jungle path? I don't know what you mean.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Oh, the path in the jungle where people just come
out and hit you and over the head, they attack
you when you're along in the jungle path. That's what
the District of Columbia is. And that's what the city
government is.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I've heard that before.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Oh okay, well it's a new one. Why not. It
is sad, It really is sad, and there's no excuse.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Okay, So let me ask you this, how comfortable are you? Uh?
There are parts of Washington that I assume are safe.
Where would you go tonight if you wanted to go
into the safest section of Washington to go to dinner
or to or whatever's Where's the safest section?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Uh might be above Pennsylvania Avenue down there by the
uh it litill past the FBI up Seventh Street, towards
them what they call the center where the where the
basketball and the hockey team plays. That will be the
most congested of people.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
And so what what do you what do you think uh?
Is going to happen in the short run and in
the long run and Washington as a result of what the.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
President did today, there has to be a short term
where they make where he the White House, makes the
city clean itself up.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I mean just literally pick up the trash and clean
yourself up. Okay, get out of.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
That.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yes, people stop walking all over the streets like like
there's no sidewalking and there's no order. They can start there,
and they can also maybe be a little bit more
responsible in what they're doing and not think that everything
is so automatic. Maybe it's time to actually go back
to the store. And demand service and demand quality instead
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of ordering in and just hiding out the things. All right,
it's what. Yeah, you know, they've got to take back
their town and say look, you know, wait a minute.
I used to be a citizen. I used to be
a person. I would not go sit down on some
sidewalks in Washington, DC where you have tables on the
sidewalks and feel all that comfortable. Okay, I'm not really
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comfortable about eating on a sidewalk table anyway, because what
bus is going by and making noise in the hall?
Speaker 6 (22:32):
You know?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
All right, Patrick, thank you for checking in from Washington.
I know that you are a keen observer of the
nation's capital. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
All right, buddy, talk to you later.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Good night. Here we go, Well we're going to go next.
I got Peter in Franklin, Massachusetts. Peter, next on nice,
I get you and go right ahead.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Hey Dan, how are you doing?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Nice? Talking to you tonight.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
I just wanted wanted to make a couple of comments
about DC because my son was in that internship program,
very much the same program that that young man from
U mass who was tragically killed. He was there last
summer and he was working at a newspaper down there,
and yeah, he had great experience, really really great experience.
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But when he first got there, I mean, like second night,
he's calling me up and he's like, Dad, he wouldn't
believe it. He says, we'll walking down the street, and
this homeless guy started chasing us. You know, he was
with a couple of girls, and he said, everybody's freaked out,
you know.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
And then you know, was.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Your son also at u mass by the way, I'm
just curious.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
No, he's he's going into his junior year at the
University of Virginia Charlottesville.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
That's a great. Yeah. So the fellow who was killed
here from Massachusetts, and I like to say his name
by pronouncer correctly, Eric Tarpinian, jack Kin, Jacques can Yeah,
jack Kin, I believe from Grinby, Massachusetts, which is a
small town in western Massachusetts.
Speaker 8 (24:02):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Very tragic.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
I mean, you know, when I heard the story, it
hit me pretty hard because you know, I knew that
that was the same program.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, he was doing nothing wrong. It wasn't like he
was doing something stupid, like, you know, in the wrong
part of town. He was in a decent area town
and there was a shootout and he was at across yes.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Yeah, and that's you know, they were staying at the
I think it's George Washington University, about a mile behind
the art are not too far right behind the White House,
and that's the same dorms that you know, my son
was in last summer. And when I went down to
get him at the end of this little internship, I
went down and thought, well, I'll spend a few days
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and kind of check out the city. And he was
still finishing up, had a couple of days left in
his internship. And I got to tell you, I was
walking around the city and I was alone, and at
one point, I mean, I'm down by the by the mall,
by the monuments, and you know, I was walking down
by Jefferson Monument, Jefferson Memorial, and there was somebody following me,
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and I knew I was in trouble, you know, So
I had to pick up the face and get out
of there. But yeah, there's a real problem down here.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I can tell you that my son and I, well
my family went down to Washington. Has this to be
this is a long time ago, buddy, mine was playing
for a National League team. This would have been around
two thousand and six, and so we went down and
spent time with him and his family, and you know,
went to the game and he said to me, look,
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you know, don't take a cab home, right back with
us on the team bus. Really yeah, so you know,
we were able to get on the team the team bus.
It happened to be the San Diego Padres and which
was great. But he said to me, even the players,
he says, after dark, you know, this is not a
safe section of town. And no, players aren't taking cabs back,
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he says, neither of you. You just you know, meet
me at the club else and you're on the team bus.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
No.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
It was fun, don't get me wrong, but yeah, but
it was it really said something to me about Washington,
d C. And this was again around two thousand and five,
two thousand and six.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
So yeah, yeah, but fully support President Trump's decision to
you know, to to do what he did today. Absolutely,
it's you know, you gotta you gotta make that he's.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Got he's got a lot of he's got a lot
of stuff going on. Let me like that. Hey, Peter,
thank you much, thank you, thank you, thank you. We
will talk soon.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
M nice talking to you.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Thanks my friend, thank you very much. I go up
north to Bernie in New Hampshire, Burnie next on nightside,
go right ahead, get you in here before the break.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
Hey are we doing there?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Doing great? Bernie? Your your thoughts and what the president
did today?
Speaker 8 (26:46):
I am, I'm very problem. My son actually is stationed
at Fort.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Belvoir and over yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
His permanent thirty station right now. He's out Wisconsin doing
more training. But I go over car down to him
about six weeks ago, and then I flew back. So
he took me to the Hilton Garden right right by
Reagan Airport, which is at Arlington.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
But I remember that.
Speaker 8 (27:11):
Night I was I walked to the store to get
a mountain dew right around the corner from the hotel,
and a couple of enterprising young fellas are like, hey,
where the hell you from? And I says my mom,
and they just starting to just walked away, and like
says okay.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
And I went back to the hotel and I was.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
Sitting out there and I heard.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
All these It was the night that that kid got killed.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
I remember when I flew back and I heard all
these Like I was starting to a friend from work
and I heard all the like fire engines and police
cars like puzzing around my friends, Like where are you?
I said, DC. I just took Frank his car and
he's like, he said, but I ain't a good city.
It's Carmon Norwich that it ain't a good city. It's
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about time that somebody did something about it.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
And maybe maybe.
Speaker 8 (27:59):
You don't people into the south then you talk about
all the time. Maybe the national guy could use a
little little post.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
The Trump might use this as a prototype. It's interesting.
So these guys came up to you. You're walking from
the hotel to a little mini mart or something like
that to get a mountain dew. And the question to
you they must beend like from the Chamber of Commerce
welcoming tourists.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
Yeah, where are you from?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Oh man, I've never heard that line before, Bertie. I
mean you know, I could see you know, hey, can
I bum a cigarette? I get all of that, you know,
shrake up a conversation or whatever, but where are you from?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (28:44):
And they were just they were looking for trouble. Sometimes
people just looking, you know, just a tough city. Dan,
it's a tough you know what. It's a And here's
the thing. It's the seat of government, but the greatest
democracy in the world. Like and it's a beautiful city.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
What made that. Trump made that point today. He made
that point today. And you know ambassadors, uh, you know
all all of the embassies are in Washington, so influential
people come from other you know, other cities. Look, you've
had congressmen down there at their cars have been hijacked, carjacked.
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It's it's safe for no one. It's safe for no one.
So I hope he may. I hope he can make
a difference. Bernie, say how to your son for us?
You know that? Okay, I always say that to tell
him we're asking for him. Okay. I expect he's gonna
call in some night from from Virginia when he's down there,
he's listening.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
I hope, yes, absolutely, we're going down him and his
sister there twins, and we're gonna go down there birthday
so I can be together and we'll call. It'll be
a Monday night, we'll call.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
That's great, Bernie, talk soon, have a great one.
Speaker 8 (29:54):
Good night, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
All right, we're gonna take quick break, coming right back
on night's side. We'll get everybody in Thomas. We got
William and Theodore both from Baltimore. They kind of represent
different points of view in terms of Donald Trump and
Dan from Florida. Back on Nightside after this.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Okay, here we go, Let's go to Theodore in Baltimore.
Theodore next on night Saga right ahead.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
It was just a distraction. First of all, let me
state this work the Corrections Office for ten years didn't
have to use that as a basis. But I've seen
criminalism basically almost all different ethnic groups. So senter crimer's crime. Now.
The thing about it, he went about letting off the
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hook thousands of people who who rioted and tore the
captain up from January sixth I don't think it.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Was thousands theatre don't mean to nitpick, but I think
it was much more like hundreds. And you and I
know that I have said that anybody who engaged in
violence that day should not have had their sentence commuted.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Well, that's the funny thing. You are very good at
statistics when you're going against Missus Warren or touting the TERFs,
but you always have a doubt in anybody who's a Democrat,
I understand that. You Republican understand that, but he was
he was well, it's basically it's all best about the
same thing. But basically he was wrong. It's a distraction.
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And he had many other places, including Charleston. I know
Charleston has less crime, but basically, since I saw the
documentary on the Shay Gang, my goodness.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Waste Theodore. You're drifting on me here. Okay, you said
that he let off thousands of people. He didn't. He
let There was about fifteen hundred people I believe who
were who were given the commutations. So that's not thousands,
it's hundreds. And I just simply said, made a correction,
and I I'd appreh if you would acknowledge that and
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just knock off and drift onto some other distraction.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I'll acknowledge that when in the school I went to
one thousand, five hundred, even if that's not the that's over,
that's a that's a thousand, five hundred, not just one hundred.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
It's it's one hundred right on my point. It's called
fifteen hundred, it's not it's not thousands. Could you want
to call it one thousand, five hundred. I'm with you
on that book, all right, thousands thousands of the number
of people who are you know, watching a Major League
Baseball game twenty five thousand, fourteen thousand.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Well, well we all know why he did that, why
he did that, he should send troops.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Okay, but again, we're not talking about that tonight. We're
not talking about Theodor. You have told me before that
that you're you happen to be black here from Baltimore.
I also have on the other line right now another
gentleman who happens to be black from Baltimore. I'd like
to put the two of you on together, if you
don't mind, I'd like to introduce you to William. Rob.
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Could you work William in here? I want to introduce
him to Theodore. You had to do that, Rob, Rob,
what'd you do? Lose your fault? Theodore? Please call back Theodore.
That was Rob's fault. It's not been your best night, Rob, Theodore,
please call back William. I have you, We're gonna get
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Theodore here. You happy to both be from Baltimore. You
have different perspectives. What's what's your perspective? Uh?
Speaker 9 (33:34):
You know, I agree with what I agree with what
a president Trump did today. And and uh and by
the way, how you doing, I'm doing well? Yeah, I
think he did the right thing. And uh, you know me,
I hear this on local radio here and he one
of those people man that once will be the victim.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
And uh, you know he's all right. I got Theodore
back here. We've got Theodore on the line with you.
William Sale the theatre Theadore say hello to William.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Well, first of all, he missed, well, I'm I'm doing
well until people are misnaming I'm not a victim. I
didn't say I'm a victim. Now, if you choose, as
a Republican to stay that way, then I'm sorry that
you have such self hatred for yourself because these people
taking votes against you, and you talk about mister Trump.
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He did this as a distraction against the situation.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
William doesn't see it that way. And William happens to
be from the same city. He is the same racial
background as you do. He has similar experiences. I'm sure, William.
Why did you explain the Theodore why you feel that way?
Speaker 9 (34:45):
I feel this way because the Democrats, right which I
used to be one of them, has ruined this country.
They have ruined Biden with a disgrace, and yes, maybe
not do the things that people want him to do.
This man is different. He's not going to super back
and uh you know, uh, he's not going to sup
bad and the hold his tongue.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
He's not.
Speaker 9 (35:06):
He's not one of those politicians that's gonna, you know,
try to you know, he's not. He's not going to
be like George bus and all the rest of them.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Means he's different.
Speaker 9 (35:13):
And that's what well on.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
This issue will he was a mess in this issue.
Trime was down thirty years low, crime thirty years low.
And in spite of what you're saying, let me explain
something to you. I have enough sense to know when
a man hates me so much he takes pictures of
people who did great things off the walls, he takes
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voting irregularities and calls him right. If you stand by
that man, and I'm gon tell you.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Something, can I ask you? I'd like to just check
on one thing you just said. We're talking about crime
in Washington. Okay, yes, do you know how many homicides
that were in Washington, D C. In twenty twelve?
Speaker 4 (36:01):
I think it was very few, maybe about thirty or forty,
it's about all.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
It was just under one hundred.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Do you know how many homicides there were in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
It was probably at least twice that much.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
It was almost two hundred and fifty. And so the
figure in twenty twenty three was two seventy four. Now
last year it was down, correct, but that is one
year after which it has increased. I want to ask
both of you a question. Okay, both of you live
in Baltimore. Don't need to know exactly where you live,
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but do you both feel comfortable living in Baltimore or
do you think there should be more police presence. I'd
like to start with William. William, would you feel better
if there were more police in Baltimore? Do you feel
safe in Baltimore?
Speaker 9 (36:54):
I'm feel safe to a point, but I also used
my head.
Speaker 8 (36:56):
I lived right down here.
Speaker 9 (36:58):
About two blocks from my stadium Brady Wynd and Oieo
Parking camping yard. Right, so I'm right here in the
downtown Baltimore. But the police are held back by Democratic
Mayor Brandon Scott. He has those police sitting in cars,
he has uh he has a police commissioner that is
that is chosen by him. The man makes three hundred
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and eleven thousand dollars a year. So do you think
he's gonna you know, he works at the privilege of
the mayor. Do you think he's gonna buck on the
math man and he's gonna tell those police officers not
to do things like at Penn North in Baltimore. And
I think Fiddle doesn't even live in the city. He
lives in Parkville, which is Baltimore County. So what I'm
telling you is this Baltimore City is just as bad
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as Washington, d C. They need to have the police.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
I'm not afraid of no cop.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
I've been here.
Speaker 9 (37:44):
Sixty six years with Baltimore, but I lived outside. I
lived in Denver for seven years. But all I'm telling
you I've been here all my life, born and wade.
Baltimore City is a mess, just like Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, yeah, Williams just a little tight on times, Theodore.
Speaker 8 (38:00):
Do you have money with.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
With what we have, Williams? Or do you disagree?
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Go ahead, well I disagree in part. We have had
a different epidemic, however, of youth crime. Young people hijacking cars.
We have a district attorney in there now, state's attorney
who's cracking out on crime. And basically I refused to
let anybody say that Democrats are the ones who who
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commit crime and participate and allow crime.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Well he is, you know, he said it's Democrats who
have run. Would you say Baltimore for the last I
don't know, fifteen twenty years has been impacted by a
lot of crime.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
It has been, and that's a problem.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Okay, okay, Look, gentlemen, gentlemen, it just was a coincidence
that you both are on. I appreciate both of you
as listeners. I hope you know that I appreciate both
of you as callers, but I'm up against the eleven
thought it was an interesting exchange.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Real quick, Dan, Real quick, Dan, you are a man
of integrity. How can you support Donald Trump?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
I support what he did today. I support him closing
the border. I don't support him arresting people who go
to Tufts Universe. You've heard my criticisms of in theatore
Theodore flat up against it, William, thank you, my friend,
As always theatre.
Speaker 8 (39:26):
The man of Dan.
Speaker 9 (39:28):
I'm a man of integuety, Okay, yes, I know that.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
I know that, and I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
I'll be a non it'll be a non stress call.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Okay. Well, I think it was a good exchange. I
think it was a good exchange. I think we do
more of it, gentlemen, Thank you both very much. Appreciate it.
William and Theodore, both in Baltimore, different perspectives. We'll take
a break. We can light the lines up and react
to that conversation if you'd like. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three, one, ten thirty.
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My name is Dan and raided. This is his nights.
I enjoyed that
His Nightside with Dan Rays Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Now the Dan the Star Lefty for the Red Sox.
Cruchet proved himself to be human tonight. Tough night, Yeah,
tough tough one on This could be three in a row.
But they're still alive. They're still alive, no doubt about it.
Thanks Dan, appreciate it all right. So today President Trump
(00:30):
held a wide ranging news conference. The purpose of the
news conference was to announce that he was going to
in effect federalize law enforcement in in Washington, d C.
I happen to think it was a good decision, and
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I'll tell you why in a moment. But I'd love
to think here what some of you think. I suspect
most of you who support Donald Trump would agree that
was a good decision, and I suspect many of you
who don't like Donald Trump would feel it was a
bad decision. But what the President announced today at his
(01:16):
news conference, which was at eleven o'clock, was exactly this.
So let me play. First of all, Rob, this is
cut thirty seven.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
And we're here for a very serious purpose, very serious verpose.
Something's out of control, but we're going to put it
in control very quickly, like we did on the southern border.
I'm announcing a historic action to rescue our nation's capital
from crime, bloodshed, bedlam, and squalor and worse.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
This is Liberation Day in DC, and.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
We're going to take our capital back. We're taking it
back under the authorities vested in me as the President
of the United States. I'm officially invoking Section sevent forty
of the District of MBA Home Rule Act, you know
what that is, and placing the DC Metropolitan Police Department
under direct federal control. And you'll be meeting the people
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that will be directly involved with that.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, there was a an effort by many today to
point out that crime in the District of Columbia has
been on dropping in the last couple of years, and
those statistics are interesting. I do not believe that it
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negates the necessity for what the President has done. But
just think about this for a few moments as we
go here. Okay, President Trump sent troops, national Guard, Federalized
National Guard, California National Guard troops. He had some marines
(03:00):
in the area of Los Angeles, and things quieted down
in LA pretty quickly. I don't know, maybe it was
a coincidence, Maybe it wasn't okay. He has eight hundred
troops National Guard troops coming next week. He is now
taking control of the DC Police Department, which is badly understaffed.
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I was listening today to a commentary by the Union head.
Sounds very much like Boston. They are apparently up for
four thousand police officers and they are down about eight
hundred police officers in the District of Columbia in Washington,
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d C. Which is the nation's capital. Just think, in
recent weeks, and in recent months and in recent years,
here's a few high profile crimes. These are the crimes
that we hear about. There are hundreds of crimes that
we don't hear about, carjackings, robberies, rapes. I want to
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acknowledge Eric Taupinion Jacques Jackin of Granby, Massachusetts me. You
may not recognize his name. He is a rising junior
at UMass Amherst. He was serving as an intern in
the office of a congressman from Kansas named wrong Esd's.
(04:29):
He was shot to death in a crossfire. Just happened
to be on the wrong street corner at the wrong
time when gunfire broke out. I watched his mom being
interviewed Tonight Ted Wayman from Channel five to the Great
Peace with her. Just a few weeks ago, you had
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the murders of two members of the Israeli embassy, your
own Lishinsky and Sarah Milgram. They were due to be engaged,
and this guy, Elias Rodriguez, flew from Chicago with his
gun on him on the plane and as he shot them,
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he said free Palestine. So we know what his what
his purpose was. They were. They were just shot down
in cold blood at nine o'clock at night. These are
not people who were dealing with drugs or anything like that.
These are people who were just trying to conduct their lives.
When I think of other high profile cases, a couple
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of years ago, running back for the Washington Commanders, Brian Robinson,
he was shot in an attempted robbery by a fourteen
year old and a seventeen year old. I mean, you know,
it's crazy, It's crazy. A Democratic congresswoman was attacked in
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her own apartment building, Angie Craig. I think she's from
New Jersey. Henry Quaar, Democratic congressman from Texas. He was
a victim of carjacking in October of twenty twenty three.
So the President today kind of laid it out. He
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talked here about deploying the National Guard. They're apparently eight
hundred guardsmen who have been activated. He can activate. He
can do this for thirty days, but then he has
to have congressional approval cut thirty seven A.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
In addition, I'm deploying the National Guard to help re
establish law order of public safety in Washington, d C.
And they're going to be allowed to do their job properly.
And you people are victims of it too. You know
your reporters, and I understand a lot of you tend
to be on the liberal side, but you don't want
to get You don't want to get mugged and raped
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and shot and killed. And you all know people and
friends of yours that happened, and so you can be
any anything you want, but you want to have safety
in the streets.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You want to be able to leave.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Your apartment or your house where you live and feel
safe and go into a store to buy a newspaper
or buy something.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And you don't have that now.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Washington, d C. Is not a huge city by you know,
by standardszone like Los Angeles or Chicago or New York.
But it is the capital of our country. Now there
has been some response today. In two thousand and three,
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there were two hundred and seventy four people killed homicide
victims in Washington, DC. In twenty twenty four dropped to
one eighty seven. That's a thirty two percent drop. Obviously,
the two thousand and five numbers are still being calculated.
A drop in what's called sex abuse, a drop in
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assault with a dangerous weapon, been, a drop in robbery,
drop in violent crime. I'm not sure how safe a
city this is. I can put it in some context
for you. Okay, here's the context. In twenty and twelve,
there were fewer than one hundred homicides in Washington, d C.
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Now I'm not saying that that's good, bad, or indifferent,
but that's the number. By twenty fifteen, that number had
jumped up to one hundred and seventy five, and by
twenty twenty it was over two hundred. So it was up,
up and up, and it was down, as they said,
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from twenty three to twenty twenty four. But I think
it was well justified what the president did. I'd love
to hear from you on this. This president is a
different president Okay. Other presidents, including himself who served from
twenty seventeen to twenty one to twenty twenty one, never
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did anything like this. The Bushes, well, I mean, you know,
let's just go back to the turn of the century.
George Bush forty three never focus. His focus was on
Afghanistan in Iraq. President Obama I don't think paid much
attention to this. I don't think his attorney general did.
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President Trump, I think was dealing with other things. I
don't recall him talking much about crime in Washington, DC.
Joe Biden didn't do anything, and Donald Trump has if
he can turn around and make Washington as a city
that I think they have something like five million tourists
a year, some incredible number of people. People come there
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from all over the country. Kids come there. Just think
of some of the I mentioned high profile cases. Those
are the cases that are being reported six one, seven, two, five, four, ten,
thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. I
would like to talk about this for a while. I've
told you all along I will criticize Donald Trump when
I believe he is wrong, and I will support him
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when I think he's right. There can be no harm
to come from this action, if anything, maybe there would
be message sent now. Some people might decide to leave,
some criminals might decide to leave Washington. But Washington, I
think a month from now will be a safer city.
(10:40):
I hope. So, I hope. So let's keep these phone
lines going and we're going to talk about this for
a while. I think it's very important, and I think
the President has done the right thing today. I know
who'll be criticized for it. But guess what crime is
too rampant in this country? And it's it has it's
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crime that's committed by people who are here illegally, by
people who were born here and people who came here.
There's no group of people that comes is here who
has never never committed a crime. I'm not blaming this
on illegals. I'm not blaming it on new arrivals. I'm
not blaming it on people who have been here for
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some reason. We have a crime problem in America with
a most generous society to support people who need help,
and yet crime exists in America, and it exists at
a rate which is unacceptable. Coming back on night Side.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Boston's news radio back.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
To the phones we go talking about what President Trump
did today in Washington. I can't find fault with it.
Maybe you can let me go to John and ded
On you first up this our night side. Welcome Dan.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
But we always say the number one job of the government,
primary responsibility, is to do a protective citizens, and the
Democrats have just failed miserably since I can remember, I
don't understand the thing for defunding the police, no cash bail.
It just goes on and on with the Democrats. And
I said this before that during the Biden administration, the
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two demographics that benefit of the most were illegal and criminals.
And those Democrats who are trying to say that Washington,
d C. Is not a mess of the same people
who were saying Biden was confident, and I think I
think they've they've lost anybody with any common sense. Do
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you know vote he thought the Democrats will Bill Clinton
or jfk or Waybeth. This is a breed we've never seen.
But I've never seen before what they're doing today. I
just cannot, as you can say, I can't come up
with words to describe what are they thinking? And you
hit it on the head about which crimes are being reported,
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which crimes are not being reported. There's so many crimes
that are not being reported. And they always fudge the
numbers so it makes them look good. That's all they
care about. They don't care about people, They care about
the numbers. Just trying to get the vote. And what's
the attorney is it? The Attorney general? Janey something that
I can't remember her name?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Well, the attorney general was PAYM. Bondi. The US attorney
down there is Genie heiro j.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
She was on saying that these can't sixteen seventeen year
olds with a gun, that she can't touch them. Did
you hear that about you have?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I mean, look, there is a trend. For example, you
know here in Massachusetts. We talked last week with a
Tim Kruz, who's the district attorney in Plymouth County. Very
smart guy and in my opinion, a good guy, a
really good guy who was interested in the protection of his,
you know, his constituents. The Massachusetts State Supreme Court, in
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a four to three decision came down with a very
important decision. It's called the Madness decision, which essentially said
that people who committed murder obviously when we're talking murder.
You're talking about the most serious crime if they do
it when they're eighteen, nineteen or twenty. And in the
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old standards was you're convicted from murder and you were
sent to life without parole. But the Supreme Court and
their infinite wisdom said that in Massachusetts, now they're going
to go they will go back and look at all
of those cases where individuals were convicted from murder at
the age of eighteen, nineteen or twenty, and they now
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will have automatic parole eligibility, which means that some of
them are going to get back out and not spend
their entire life in prison number one. And it also
means that the family members of the victims are going
to have to go to parole hearings and testify that
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they don't want these people released. So, you know, it's
like then nightmare which they thought was over because the
individual who killed their mom or their dad, or their
son and their daughter or their brother or their sister
or whatever was going to be gone away for their life.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Not so you know, well, I think again they don't.
There's no accountability with the Democrats. I mean, I still
I believe if you have the evidence capital punishment if
you you've shown the capability to murder someone. I'm not
talking about man's flaughter sometimes it's self planned. I'm talking
about murder.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Well, I'm even willing to go further, one further than that,
and that is that in my world, not only do
you have to convince one beyond a reasonable doubt, but
you have to show that there is uh some some
specific uh uh aggravating circumstance in the crime. And you
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also have to be convinced beyond a scintilla of doubt,
which is a high, high standard. And I can cite
cases for you where people committed horrible crimes against children
that you know, they'll sit on death row for twenty
five years and hope that they die in natural death
or hope that some governor comes along and commits their sentence.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
And we've had that conversation before about how good some
of these people on death row have it.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah, a lot of homeless, Well they get they get
to uh you know, they they can friends can visit them,
their their their spiritual advisors can visit them. It's like,
you know, but.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
The doing that great uh complaint.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I mean he's laughing. I mean it's been what now
it's twenty thirteen and we're two thousands, So now we're
twelve years past them. How many years? How many more years?
Is he going to live a long time? Long time?
Unless they had decided to throw the switch now, Joe Biden,
even Joe Biden refused to commute his sentence, along along
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with that of the guy that attacked the synagogue in
Pittsburgh and the guy who killed the white racist down
in uh, South Carolina, who killed the nine older black
parishioners who he prayed with. Then he walked back outside
and came back and killed nine of them.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
I think even if you show the capability that you
could you could be commit a violent act against somebody,
we hear somebody, they may not have killed somebody or
somebody's heinous crimes how much. I mean, look, look what
happened that Cincinnati attack. It's gone away. You know what happened?
How with that, it's gone away.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Unbelievable, yep, absolutely, And it's got nothing to do with
the racial element of it. This was this was a crowd,
a crowd that was out of control, as simple as that.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
All right, John killed, that's all. What was that you
hit about the racial thing. We always have to look
at it black and white. How about we just look
at that human beings are getting killed or harmed.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Exactly exactly once you interject races race into it. First
of all, it's unfair to people of whatever race was
involved in the attack. They represent a small minority of
that particular race. So you shouldn't inject it because of that.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
And it only fuels racism. Uh. It's bad people attacking
innocent people and losing control. Anyway, John got to run.
Thank you much, appreciate it. Thank you all right. I
want to hear from you. If you think Donald Trump
did the wrong thing today, fine, let me let me
have it. Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.
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Couple of lines have dropped off unfortunately, or six months
or seven six one, seven, nine three one ten thirty
six one, seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. Coming right
back on night, Jodd, You're on nine with Dan Ray.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I'm going Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
You're going to pick the pace up a little bit.
Patrick in the District of Columbia calling from Washington. Patrick,
what does you think of the president's announcement today?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Well, as a matter of fact, I'll be honest with you.
I didn't listen to it because he said he was
going to take care of it on Monday, and I said,
I bet you will. I know you will. Why didn't
have to worry about a darn thing? Because it is
evidence in front of everybody that our nation's capital is
a mess and a disgrace and it has no business
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being that way. And I will point the fingers strongly
at excuse me, it's not a bad term, but the
DC government is run like a jungle path government, and
it's got to be dealt with. It's going on to wall.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
It's what's run by. What type of government?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Did you say a jungle path government?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
A jungle I'm trying to understand. What do you mean
by jungle path? I don't know what you mean.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Oh, the path in the jungle where people just come
out and hit you and over the head, they attack
you when you're along in the jungle path. That's what
the District of Columbia is. And that's what the city
government is.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I've heard that before.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Oh okay, well it's a new one. Why not. It
is sad, It really is sad, and there's no excuse.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Okay, So let me ask you this, how comfortable are you? Uh?
There are parts of Washington that I assume are safe.
Where would you go tonight if you wanted to go
into the safest section of Washington to go to dinner
or to or whatever's Where's the safest section?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Uh might be above Pennsylvania Avenue down there by the
uh it litill past the FBI up Seventh Street, towards
them what they call the center where the where the
basketball and the hockey team plays. That will be the
most congested of people.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
And so what what do you what do you think uh?
Is going to happen in the short run and in
the long run and Washington as a result of what the.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
President did today, there has to be a short term
where they make where he the White House, makes the
city clean itself up.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I mean just literally pick up the trash and clean
yourself up. Okay, get out of.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
That.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yes, people stop walking all over the streets like like
there's no sidewalking and there's no order. They can start there,
and they can also maybe be a little bit more
responsible in what they're doing and not think that everything
is so automatic. Maybe it's time to actually go back
to the store. And demand service and demand quality instead
(22:04):
of ordering in and just hiding out the things. All right,
it's what. Yeah, you know, they've got to take back
their town and say look, you know, wait a minute.
I used to be a citizen. I used to be
a person. I would not go sit down on some
sidewalks in Washington, DC where you have tables on the
sidewalks and feel all that comfortable. Okay, I'm not really
(22:26):
comfortable about eating on a sidewalk table anyway, because what
bus is going by and making noise in the hall?
Speaker 6 (22:32):
You know?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
All right, Patrick, thank you for checking in from Washington.
I know that you are a keen observer of the
nation's capital. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
All right, buddy, talk to you later.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Good night. Here we go, Well we're going to go next.
I got Peter in Franklin, Massachusetts. Peter, next on nice,
I get you and go right ahead.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Hey Dan, how are you doing?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Nice? Talking to you tonight.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
I just wanted wanted to make a couple of comments
about DC because my son was in that internship program,
very much the same program that that young man from
U mass who was tragically killed. He was there last
summer and he was working at a newspaper down there,
and yeah, he had great experience, really really great experience.
(23:19):
But when he first got there, I mean, like second night,
he's calling me up and he's like, Dad, he wouldn't
believe it. He says, we'll walking down the street, and
this homeless guy started chasing us. You know, he was
with a couple of girls, and he said, everybody's freaked out,
you know.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
And then you know, was.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Your son also at u mass by the way, I'm
just curious.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
No, he's he's going into his junior year at the
University of Virginia Charlottesville.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
That's a great. Yeah. So the fellow who was killed
here from Massachusetts, and I like to say his name
by pronouncer correctly, Eric Tarpinian, jack Kin, Jacques can Yeah,
jack Kin, I believe from Grinby, Massachusetts, which is a
small town in western Massachusetts.
Speaker 8 (24:02):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Very tragic.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
I mean, you know, when I heard the story, it
hit me pretty hard because you know, I knew that
that was the same program.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, he was doing nothing wrong. It wasn't like he
was doing something stupid, like, you know, in the wrong
part of town. He was in a decent area town
and there was a shootout and he was at across yes.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Yeah, and that's you know, they were staying at the
I think it's George Washington University, about a mile behind
the art are not too far right behind the White House,
and that's the same dorms that you know, my son
was in last summer. And when I went down to
get him at the end of this little internship, I
went down and thought, well, I'll spend a few days
(24:40):
and kind of check out the city. And he was
still finishing up, had a couple of days left in
his internship. And I got to tell you, I was
walking around the city and I was alone, and at
one point, I mean, I'm down by the by the mall,
by the monuments, and you know, I was walking down
by Jefferson Monument, Jefferson Memorial, and there was somebody following me,
(25:02):
and I knew I was in trouble, you know, So
I had to pick up the face and get out
of there. But yeah, there's a real problem down here.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I can tell you that my son and I, well
my family went down to Washington. Has this to be
this is a long time ago, buddy, mine was playing
for a National League team. This would have been around
two thousand and six, and so we went down and
spent time with him and his family, and you know,
went to the game and he said to me, look,
(25:32):
you know, don't take a cab home, right back with
us on the team bus. Really yeah, so you know,
we were able to get on the team the team bus.
It happened to be the San Diego Padres and which
was great. But he said to me, even the players,
he says, after dark, you know, this is not a
safe section of town. And no, players aren't taking cabs back,
(25:57):
he says, neither of you. You just you know, meet
me at the club else and you're on the team bus.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
No.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
It was fun, don't get me wrong, but yeah, but
it was it really said something to me about Washington,
d C. And this was again around two thousand and five,
two thousand and six.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
So yeah, yeah, but fully support President Trump's decision to
you know, to to do what he did today. Absolutely,
it's you know, you gotta you gotta make that he's.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Got he's got a lot of he's got a lot
of stuff going on. Let me like that. Hey, Peter,
thank you much, thank you, thank you, thank you. We
will talk soon.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
M nice talking to you.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Thanks my friend, thank you very much. I go up
north to Bernie in New Hampshire, Burnie next on nightside,
go right ahead, get you in here before the break.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
Hey are we doing there?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Doing great? Bernie? Your your thoughts and what the president
did today?
Speaker 8 (26:46):
I am, I'm very problem. My son actually is stationed
at Fort.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Belvoir and over yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
His permanent thirty station right now. He's out Wisconsin doing
more training. But I go over car down to him
about six weeks ago, and then I flew back. So
he took me to the Hilton Garden right right by
Reagan Airport, which is at Arlington.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
But I remember that.
Speaker 8 (27:11):
Night I was I walked to the store to get
a mountain dew right around the corner from the hotel,
and a couple of enterprising young fellas are like, hey,
where the hell you from? And I says my mom,
and they just starting to just walked away, and like
says okay.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
And I went back to the hotel and I was.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
Sitting out there and I heard.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
All these It was the night that that kid got killed.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
I remember when I flew back and I heard all
these Like I was starting to a friend from work
and I heard all the like fire engines and police
cars like puzzing around my friends, Like where are you?
I said, DC. I just took Frank his car and
he's like, he said, but I ain't a good city.
It's Carmon Norwich that it ain't a good city. It's
(27:54):
about time that somebody did something about it.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
And maybe maybe.
Speaker 8 (27:59):
You don't people into the south then you talk about
all the time. Maybe the national guy could use a
little little post.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
The Trump might use this as a prototype. It's interesting.
So these guys came up to you. You're walking from
the hotel to a little mini mart or something like
that to get a mountain dew. And the question to
you they must beend like from the Chamber of Commerce
welcoming tourists.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
Yeah, where are you from?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Oh man, I've never heard that line before, Bertie. I
mean you know, I could see you know, hey, can
I bum a cigarette? I get all of that, you know,
shrake up a conversation or whatever, but where are you from?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (28:44):
And they were just they were looking for trouble. Sometimes
people just looking, you know, just a tough city. Dan,
it's a tough you know what. It's a And here's
the thing. It's the seat of government, but the greatest
democracy in the world. Like and it's a beautiful city.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
What made that. Trump made that point today. He made
that point today. And you know ambassadors, uh, you know
all all of the embassies are in Washington, so influential
people come from other you know, other cities. Look, you've
had congressmen down there at their cars have been hijacked, carjacked.
(29:23):
It's it's safe for no one. It's safe for no one.
So I hope he may. I hope he can make
a difference. Bernie, say how to your son for us?
You know that? Okay, I always say that to tell
him we're asking for him. Okay. I expect he's gonna
call in some night from from Virginia when he's down there,
he's listening.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
I hope, yes, absolutely, we're going down him and his
sister there twins, and we're gonna go down there birthday
so I can be together and we'll call. It'll be
a Monday night, we'll call.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
That's great, Bernie, talk soon, have a great one.
Speaker 8 (29:54):
Good night, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
All right, we're gonna take quick break, coming right back
on night's side. We'll get everybody in Thomas. We got
William and Theodore both from Baltimore. They kind of represent
different points of view in terms of Donald Trump and
Dan from Florida. Back on Nightside after this.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Okay, here we go, Let's go to Theodore in Baltimore.
Theodore next on night Saga right ahead.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
It was just a distraction. First of all, let me
state this work the Corrections Office for ten years didn't
have to use that as a basis. But I've seen
criminalism basically almost all different ethnic groups. So senter crimer's crime. Now.
The thing about it, he went about letting off the
(30:44):
hook thousands of people who who rioted and tore the
captain up from January sixth I don't think it.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Was thousands theatre don't mean to nitpick, but I think
it was much more like hundreds. And you and I
know that I have said that anybody who engaged in
violence that day should not have had their sentence commuted.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Well, that's the funny thing. You are very good at
statistics when you're going against Missus Warren or touting the TERFs,
but you always have a doubt in anybody who's a Democrat,
I understand that. You Republican understand that, but he was
he was well, it's basically it's all best about the
same thing. But basically he was wrong. It's a distraction.
(31:27):
And he had many other places, including Charleston. I know
Charleston has less crime, but basically, since I saw the
documentary on the Shay Gang, my goodness.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Waste Theodore. You're drifting on me here. Okay, you said
that he let off thousands of people. He didn't. He
let There was about fifteen hundred people I believe who
were who were given the commutations. So that's not thousands,
it's hundreds. And I just simply said, made a correction,
and I I'd appreh if you would acknowledge that and
(32:01):
just knock off and drift onto some other distraction.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I'll acknowledge that when in the school I went to
one thousand, five hundred, even if that's not the that's over,
that's a that's a thousand, five hundred, not just one hundred.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
It's it's one hundred right on my point. It's called
fifteen hundred, it's not it's not thousands. Could you want
to call it one thousand, five hundred. I'm with you
on that book, all right, thousands thousands of the number
of people who are you know, watching a Major League
Baseball game twenty five thousand, fourteen thousand.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Well, well we all know why he did that, why
he did that, he should send troops.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Okay, but again, we're not talking about that tonight. We're
not talking about Theodor. You have told me before that
that you're you happen to be black here from Baltimore.
I also have on the other line right now another
gentleman who happens to be black from Baltimore. I'd like
to put the two of you on together, if you
don't mind, I'd like to introduce you to William. Rob.
(33:03):
Could you work William in here? I want to introduce
him to Theodore. You had to do that, Rob, Rob,
what'd you do? Lose your fault? Theodore? Please call back Theodore.
That was Rob's fault. It's not been your best night, Rob, Theodore,
please call back William. I have you, We're gonna get
(33:25):
Theodore here. You happy to both be from Baltimore. You
have different perspectives. What's what's your perspective? Uh?
Speaker 9 (33:34):
You know, I agree with what I agree with what
a president Trump did today. And and uh and by
the way, how you doing, I'm doing well? Yeah, I
think he did the right thing. And uh, you know me,
I hear this on local radio here and he one
of those people man that once will be the victim.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
And uh, you know he's all right. I got Theodore
back here. We've got Theodore on the line with you.
William Sale the theatre Theadore say hello to William.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Well, first of all, he missed, well, I'm I'm doing
well until people are misnaming I'm not a victim. I
didn't say I'm a victim. Now, if you choose, as
a Republican to stay that way, then I'm sorry that
you have such self hatred for yourself because these people
taking votes against you, and you talk about mister Trump.
(34:25):
He did this as a distraction against the situation.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
William doesn't see it that way. And William happens to
be from the same city. He is the same racial
background as you do. He has similar experiences. I'm sure, William.
Why did you explain the Theodore why you feel that way?
Speaker 9 (34:45):
I feel this way because the Democrats, right which I
used to be one of them, has ruined this country.
They have ruined Biden with a disgrace, and yes, maybe
not do the things that people want him to do.
This man is different. He's not going to super back
and uh you know, uh, he's not going to sup
bad and the hold his tongue.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
He's not.
Speaker 9 (35:06):
He's not one of those politicians that's gonna, you know,
try to you know, he's not. He's not going to
be like George bus and all the rest of them.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Means he's different.
Speaker 9 (35:13):
And that's what well on.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
This issue will he was a mess in this issue.
Trime was down thirty years low, crime thirty years low.
And in spite of what you're saying, let me explain
something to you. I have enough sense to know when
a man hates me so much he takes pictures of
people who did great things off the walls, he takes
(35:39):
voting irregularities and calls him right. If you stand by
that man, and I'm gon tell you.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Something, can I ask you? I'd like to just check
on one thing you just said. We're talking about crime
in Washington. Okay, yes, do you know how many homicides
that were in Washington, D C. In twenty twelve?
Speaker 4 (36:01):
I think it was very few, maybe about thirty or forty,
it's about all.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
It was just under one hundred.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Do you know how many homicides there were in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
It was probably at least twice that much.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
It was almost two hundred and fifty. And so the
figure in twenty twenty three was two seventy four. Now
last year it was down, correct, but that is one
year after which it has increased. I want to ask
both of you a question. Okay, both of you live
in Baltimore. Don't need to know exactly where you live,
(36:36):
but do you both feel comfortable living in Baltimore or
do you think there should be more police presence. I'd
like to start with William. William, would you feel better
if there were more police in Baltimore? Do you feel
safe in Baltimore?
Speaker 9 (36:54):
I'm feel safe to a point, but I also used
my head.
Speaker 8 (36:56):
I lived right down here.
Speaker 9 (36:58):
About two blocks from my stadium Brady Wynd and Oieo
Parking camping yard. Right, so I'm right here in the
downtown Baltimore. But the police are held back by Democratic
Mayor Brandon Scott. He has those police sitting in cars,
he has uh he has a police commissioner that is
that is chosen by him. The man makes three hundred
(37:18):
and eleven thousand dollars a year. So do you think
he's gonna you know, he works at the privilege of
the mayor. Do you think he's gonna buck on the
math man and he's gonna tell those police officers not
to do things like at Penn North in Baltimore. And
I think Fiddle doesn't even live in the city. He
lives in Parkville, which is Baltimore County. So what I'm
telling you is this Baltimore City is just as bad
(37:39):
as Washington, d C. They need to have the police.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
I'm not afraid of no cop.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
I've been here.
Speaker 9 (37:44):
Sixty six years with Baltimore, but I lived outside. I
lived in Denver for seven years. But all I'm telling
you I've been here all my life, born and wade.
Baltimore City is a mess, just like Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, yeah, Williams just a little tight on times, Theodore.
Speaker 8 (38:00):
Do you have money with.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
With what we have, Williams? Or do you disagree?
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Go ahead, well I disagree in part. We have had
a different epidemic, however, of youth crime. Young people hijacking cars.
We have a district attorney in there now, state's attorney
who's cracking out on crime. And basically I refused to
let anybody say that Democrats are the ones who who
(38:28):
commit crime and participate and allow crime.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Well he is, you know, he said it's Democrats who
have run. Would you say Baltimore for the last I
don't know, fifteen twenty years has been impacted by a
lot of crime.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
It has been, and that's a problem.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Okay, okay, Look, gentlemen, gentlemen, it just was a coincidence
that you both are on. I appreciate both of you
as listeners. I hope you know that I appreciate both
of you as callers, but I'm up against the eleven
thought it was an interesting exchange.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Real quick, Dan, Real quick, Dan, you are a man
of integrity. How can you support Donald Trump?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
I support what he did today. I support him closing
the border. I don't support him arresting people who go
to Tufts Universe. You've heard my criticisms of in theatore
Theodore flat up against it, William, thank you, my friend,
As always theatre.
Speaker 8 (39:26):
The man of Dan.
Speaker 9 (39:28):
I'm a man of integuety, Okay, yes, I know that.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
I know that, and I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
I'll be a non it'll be a non stress call.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Okay. Well, I think it was a good exchange. I
think it was a good exchange. I think we do
more of it, gentlemen, Thank you both very much. Appreciate it.
William and Theodore, both in Baltimore, different perspectives. We'll take
a break. We can light the lines up and react
to that conversation if you'd like. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three, one, ten thirty.
(39:59):
My name is Dan and raided. This is his nights.
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