August 11, 2025 • 40 mins
President Trump held a press conference announcing what he calls, “liberation day in DC” where he announced his plan to crackdown on violent crime in the nation’s capital. Despite preliminary year-to-date crime comparisons from Washington’s Metropolitan Police Department that show overall crime in D.C. has decreased by 7% since last year, with violent crime down 26% and property crime reduced by 5%, Trump placed DC Police under federal control and activated the National Guard to combat what he said was a wave of lawlessness. Do you think the federal government needs to get involved with local DC crime?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's
Radio where we are talking this hour will continue to
talk about President Trump's decision to federalize the DC City Police. Obviously, Washington,
d C. Is a federal city, but it has also
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city government as a mayor and a city council. The
mayor recognizes that the president has the authority for thirty
days to federalize the local police department. The head of
the union down there tonight was quoted. I heard him
on one of the television stations saying that he supported
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the president, that his police department was down. It should
have four thousand members and it's down to like thirty
one hundred and eighty. I think he's eight hundred below
his staff where he put should be staffed. So it's
an interesting action that the President has taken, and if
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it works, he should be received credit for it. If
it doesn't work, he should take blame for it. But
I think it's worth it. DC has been a tough
city for a long time now. There are elegant parts
of Washington that where crime now is affected everywhere, okay,
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and you have members of Congress who have been attacked
in their own apartment buildings, and in one case a
Democratic member of Congress whose name is I. G. Craig
in twenty twenty three. Another Democrat in twenty twenty three,
Henry Quaar, Democrat from Texas, there was an intent of carjacking.
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His car actually was hijacked. And there was a Washington
Commodore football player who's still playing, by the way, Brian
Robinson shot in an attempted robbery by a fourteen year
old and a seventeen year old in two thousand and two.
And if this is happening to high profile people, it's
also happening to others. I mentioned the shooting of the
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two Israeli diplomats shot to death outside the Jewish Museum
in May of this year. I talked last weekend a
former DOGE staffer badly beaten, badly beaten, broken nose, just
pummeled by a couple of teenagers. And we lost a
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young man from Massachusetts, Eric Tarpinian Jacquin I hope I'm
pronouncing his name correctly, from Granbury, Massachusetts. He was in
a college congressional intern program. I mean people go to
Washington to follow their dreams, just like people go to
New York and Los Angeles to follow their dreams anyway.
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In New York they want to be in theater. In
Los Angeles that want to be in the movies, and
in Washington they want to be in politics. Simple as that.
Let's keep rolling here. I'm going to try to get
as many folks in as we can and I'm going
to go to Dan in Florida. Dan, you were next
on Nisaga right ahead?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, Hey, Dan, This actions today remind me of that
the Margaret Thatcher in the nineteen eighties when she was
Prime Minister England. She had a saying and that she
is pretty often, crime is crime is crime. It is
not political, It is crime. And I think DC needs
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to get back to basics, or every community needs to
get back to basics. Let the police do their job
and not be afraid to do the job. And if
that happens, then you will have say cities.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah. Well, by the way, For those who don't know Dan,
Dan is a former Tampa, Florida police officer who has
listened to this program. He and I have met. He
is a police officer who while he was a police
officer in Tampa, part of his beat was to look
after homeless people and try to make sure that they
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stayed out of the criminal justice system. And I think
that's an accurate characterization of part of your duties down there.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Correct, And yeah, if we had homeless there were committing
minor offenses such as life staying activities such as trying
to sleep in the park, or their intent was not
to commit a crime, but their intent was just self survival,
then I could help them with that. The ones that
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did want help, and there were plenty that did. My
phone was ringing off the hub every day. You'll still
get a few that don't, but then we can do
with other ways with them.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
But the story, the story that I like to tell
about you, Dan, and maybe people have heard it but
probably have not, is that you actually helped arrange a wedding.
You basically, I believe, provided the wedding venue and also
a reception for a homeless couple in Tampa, Florida.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Correct. Yeah, that was they wanted to get a we
wanted to get married. They couldn't come with ninety three
dollars or I got that. It got a great deal
of publicity, and they ended up in permanent housing, so
the housing problem was solved. They were not a burd
on the criminal justice system. They were not getting arrested
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or getting tickets all the time, and able to help
many of that wanted help. Even helped a full legged friend.
We're kind of up on the anniversary here, I think
the next day or two of Norman the Cat.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yes, and who's now named Danny Ray the Cat. If
I'm not mistaken, we actually had an adoption. I feared
to think how many years ago that was? Dan?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Years ago?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Oh my god, God, time flies, my friend.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I remember it like yesterday.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
But that.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Was But they had kill shelters in Florida, and Dan
took it upon himself to fly up and we we
basically found a home for this little cat. Uh and
with a lovely woman, a really lovely woman in Pawtucket,
Rhode Island. And Uh, I don't know if she's listening tonight,
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but I hope she is. Uh. And she named Norman
the Cat d anyway, should have should have named him Dan.
You're after you because you were the guy that really
saved him, that's for sure. Dan. Great memories, great memories.
Thank you for what you did. You and now retired,
and Uh, you served, you served the peace people of
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Florida of Tampa specifically extremely well and you helped a
lot of people. You and were involved in a couple
of high profile cases too that involved arrest of the
guy that that was actually killing people down there. He
was a bit of a serial killer who was working.
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How was that section of town that he was working in?
It was it was one of the party sections, was
it not? Was it not?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It's called the Ebor City.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Ebor City, I be o R city And he had
killed how many people? Did he finally go to trial
and get convicted and all?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yes, he he ended up getting I don't know his
own death row, got life. I think he had four victims,
and I believe it take a plea agreement, and I
don't remember off the top of my head of its
death row or prison. But he'll never see the light
of day again.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well, if you took a plea, he probably did that
to avoid through a death rope. Dan is always thank
you for your friendship and thank you for your service
to the people of Florida.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Thank you great talking to you, Dan, and look forward to.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Seeing you soon hopefully Okay. Dan occasionally makes his way
up here and we see each other. Thanks buddy. Talk
to you soon.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
By bye bye.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Take a very quick break. It's eleven eighteen. I know
give time checks as often as I should. There's a
lot of things that I need to get better at
as I continue on this job. My name's Dan Ray.
This is Nightside. It's a Monday, or we call it
a Monday. Monday always seems to be a little longer,
but it's good when we're together on Monday. And we'll
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be back on Nightside. Stephen Hopkin did is next up?
I got David and DC Matt in Franklin, Laurie out
of the Great State of Ohio as well, coming back
on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w BZY,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Back to the phone is going to go to Steve
and Hockey. Did Steve, I appreciate your patience you held
through the news. Go right ahead, Steve, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
No, thank you so much. I have a good friend
who lives you know. He's been in Washington for like
ten years. He's a ten minute walk away from the
White House. And one of the big problems that he
says is that the sort of the lack of punishment
for the teenagers in the area who are just committing
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the car break ins and stealing packages and assaulting people
and mugging people. You know, it's absolutely constant for him
and his friends, Like when they walk down the street,
there's broken windows from the cars like everywhere.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Though.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
He was coming back from a restaurant late night and
saw like seven kids breaking into a convertible, you know,
cutting the roof open, and he yelled over to them, hey,
cut that out. And what do they do. They don't stop.
They run, the seven of them run down and and
then beat the crap out of them. You know, he's
had other friends who've been bugged and things, and you know,
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he he really sits there and thinks that what needs
to happen is the parents of these teens and young
adults and things like that need to also be held
liable because they just they don't get in enough trouble
to stop their behavior. And you know, as you had
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someone saying earlier, crime is crime is crime. If we
look the other way and say, you know, try to
stop these kids from you know, getting in trouble for
these petty things, they don't stop. Their behavior only gets
hardened and worsened. And you know, the not being able
to go out at nighttime in any place in the
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United States, I think is an absolute disgrace. You know,
when you hear about, you know, Chicago having one hundred
people or one hundred and twenty people shot on the
fourth of July, you know, I think the National Guard
should be there as well. You know, the people, whether
you're living in a nice place like I do in Hoptington,
or whether you're in like what you would call a
ghetto or a project or something like this. Not a
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ghetto anymore, but like a project housing thing where the
people just live in fear every day. What is the
National Guard for? I have absolutely no problem with, you know,
the National Guard going in and supporting a police force
in order to stop crime, in order to make people
feel safe. I was in Detroit, you know, at one
of the car factories after doing some car driving, and
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you know, one of the women who's an older volunteer
at the museum and the factory, said that when she
and her husband go out to dinner, he doesn't stop
at any stoplights after dark because he just blows through
them because he's known so many people who've been carjacked
when they stop at a stoplight, and you know, that's
that's absolutely disgraceful. I just think that every American city
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should be safe. And you know, if there's eight hundred people,
you know, or eight hundred officers down in Washington, you know,
absolutely the National Guards should be put in at least,
you know, to be a presence to make people think
twice about committing crimes. It's just like the Guardian Angels.
You know, just by being there, people think twice about crime.
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And you know, I don't I don't want to hear
stories about people getting shot or mugged or or things
like this. It's it's it should not be happening, especially
in Washington, d C. But here in Boston and here
in you know, Detroit or la or or wherever.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Well, there's a lot of cities that and I haven't
been in many other cities recently, but in some cities
that you get into, if you get into a tough neighborhood,
one of the things you have to make sure of
is you don't if you are stopped in a light
at a red light, you don't want to creep up
on the bumper of the person in front of you.
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You always have to have oh yeah, playing if all
of a sudden, you see something, got to keep your
doors locked, you can't. You have to unfortunately be alert.
But the other thing is that I think that a
lot of folks who will look and say, oh, well,
we can't punish these kids, you know what they're doing. Uh,
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you know, there's it's almost a little form of particularly
when you're talking about kids who are are kids who
live in urban areas, there's almost almost a little bit
of racism involved in their attitudes. It's like if it
was if you had seven kids breaking into a car
in you know, most suburbs, they would suffer some consequences.
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But for people to sort of say, well, I think
it was Janine Piro today, the new US attorney, said
that they get sent to arts and crafts school. I mean,
you know, it's it's.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Well, it's building.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
So when when the guy with the convertible has his
roof ripped open, his everyone's insurance rates go up. You know,
it becomes it becomes more expensive to own a car
to drive in a city.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
And when people successful, Yeah, when when people sit there
and they step back and they try to throw the
race card and things in when you're talking about poor people.
And unfortunately in this country, a lot of the poor
are minorities. When when you know, in Washington itself, they
had a huge uproar a year ago because a major
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supermarket had to.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Close because of theft.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
They said they put three hundred thousand dollars of extra security,
uh you know, into the building and into staffing and stuff.
They still lost like five hundred thousand dollars worth of
inventory in six months and they closed. The people that
it was hurting is the poor and the people who
lived in that area. So the focals when you stop crime,
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the poor and the and the you know, the the
people who are there who as in areas that are
predominant minorities, they are the places where the people are
screaming for more help. And you know, the people who
are anti police and anti this. It's only hurting the
communities who need it the most.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
That is, I don't worry in my community.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
You would not tolerate it in a suburban community, but
somehow no one is concerned about it in poorer neighborhoods.
And I don't care what your economic status is. I believe,
truly believe that everybody wants the same They want you know,
safety and comfort for their family, whether or not it's
someone living in a twenty million dollar mansion or someone
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who's who's renting an apartment for three hundred dollars a
month and in a small apartment. They want comfort, they
want security. Whatever they have, they don't want that stolen.
They don't want to be terrorized. They don't want to
be facing someone with a knife or a gun. We
all feel the same way. The only people who don't
feel that way are the people who are so messed
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up on drugs they have to the only the only alternate,
the alternative that they have to keep their drug habit
going is by robbing people or stealing there or stealing
from people.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Yeah, I actually work in a prison. I do medical
a in a prison, and so recidicism is terrible, but
it is now it's not what it was fifteen years ago.
You know, now it is there's so many people who
have drug problems, and it is it takes over their
mental and everything about them just turns into somehow getting money.
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You know, nobody loans drugs. They cost money. They have
to steal. Yeah, it's an addiction, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
An absolutely addiction.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
But Steve, when you when you have kids who are
going out with their friends, a gang of kids who
are holding up people and mugging people and knocking people
out and things like this. This when I was in
medical school in Boston around Longwood, you know, thirty years
ago or twenty five years ago, there were gangs of
young teenagers who were holding people up. There were gangs
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of young girls, there were gangs of young boys, and
it was terrorizing that area. And you know, when you have.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Six years you know the area.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
You're talking about it right, we're Brigaban Women's Hospital is Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
If you have someone who's not you know, who doesn't
care about getting in trouble or doesn't think they're going
to get in trouble, and they have a knife, it
doesn't matter whether they're thirteen years old or whether they're
twenty five. You can still get stabbed and die from
someone with a knife or get shot. I'm much more
worried with a younger child, or you know, a teenager
with a you know, thirteen to an eighteen or a
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twenty year old with a gun than I am someone
who's thirty who has some wisdom who says, if I
shoot a person, I'm going to go to jail. You know,
I think he's more you know, he he may want
my money and he's using the gun. But thirteen year
old has been playing video games and watching violent movies
and has no wisdom, is much more likely to shoot
me just on a whim.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
So well, doctor Seed, I am honored that you would
call my program.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Yea, yes, it's great. I listened to it when I'm
driving back and forth to Buster on call.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
So keep it up.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
You're wonderful.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Appreciate you, Steve. I appreciate what you do. Thank you
very much. Speak fan of doctors and nurses. All right,
let me go to David and DC. David, welcome, You
are next on Nightside. They're going to push the newscast
a couple of minutes here to accommodate.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
Go ahead, Dave, Ahi Van. I think that Donald Trump
has some nerve even comments on the subjects. His hand's
not clean. He has four police officers dead down here.
He has guys police officers with the eyes goled out,
with the fingers cut off from the riot Act. And
then he has the nerve to call the National Guard
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up and now he could have done it on January sixth,
and then also he's had thirteen judges spots vacant he
has not filled. And he also took a billion dollars
as a government budget. So how can you have clean
hands and talk about crime?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Well, first of all, you said that he has four
officers who were dead. Explain to explained to me those
circum because I know what you're talking about, and I
think that two, at least two of those, perhaps three
of those officers were suicides long after January sixth. How
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do you attribute that.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
To Donald David? Suicide be kind of what happened on
January sixth, the support that he did not give them
fair enough.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Okay, that's that's your argument and the one gentleman. First,
first of all, I agree with you, and I think
that the actions of the people who engaged in violence
on January sixth never should have been had their sentences commuted.
So I think we're we're square on the money there those.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
People who So he actually added to what crime statistics himself.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Well, he now I want to be David. I'd like
to be in fairness to him. Okay, did he make
a mistake in my opinion of assembling that crowd. Absolutely,
I've said that, But he said to that crowd, We're
going to march peacefully.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
And he sits on his butt. Not not not call
him off.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yes, I was wrong and he was wrong on that.
He was dead.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Well did not call it the National Guard?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Well, no, the the He I don't know that he
had the authority. I believe that the House. Let me,
let me, let me try to give you my explanation
if you don't mind. I don't cut people off, but
I do. In conversation, Okay, okay, he requested the National
Guard in advance of January sixth, and Nancy Pelosi, who
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was in charge of the Capitol building, he does not
is not in charge of the Capitol building. She declined
that offer.
Speaker 7 (21:04):
Okay, okay, how how come you can just turn them
loose now in a moment's notice.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Because the capital, just the Capitol grounds are controlled by
the Speaker of the House.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
And I have read enough and have seen enough to
know that he requested of her, and she felt apparently
it was not necessary. I think the huge mistake that
he made was summoning that crowd to Washington, particularly on
that day. Okay, he basically created a scenario. So I
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will agree with you on that, and.
Speaker 7 (21:44):
He didn't stop it, though he sat on his hands
and didn't do anything for hours. He could have said
something to stop it.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I agree with you on that as well.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
And then he's got us down thirteen judges, which Congress
has the judge. He has to apput the judges and
set them to Congress to get approved heavily.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
What happens on that one, Dave, I'm going to disagree
with you normally on that one. I'm sure that I
don't know that he has thirteen federal judges. They may be.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
No, we have a judges are appointed by Congress. In
the federal judges. We don't have we don't have many
local DC judges here, Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
But what I'm saying is normally what happens is whoever
the president is, whether it was a Democrat, the Republicans
solold that process down. And I guarantee you that if
the Democrats, that if the Democrats would go along with it,
he would appoint as many judges as he could summon tomorrow.
Because the presidents love to getice.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Yeah okay, yeah, you think he's going to yah, So
he's going to do all of a sudden all of
a sudden he can appoint the judges.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
You know, well, that's good. I think he would. But
I think any delay generally in the appointment of judges
as a rule, comes from the minority party, the party
that is out of power, because they tend to try
to slow down and question every last judge that a
president of the other party nominates. David, I really enjoyed
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you call.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Have you called me.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
If this is my first time? But one more thing,
we want to give you a quick.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Round of the clause calling a good job.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Go ahead, Yeah, I'm ax from Boston down I live
down there. Now, all right, fifty.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
But listen wherever you are, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
He held a h a billion dollars out of out
of out of a budget, and so now he says
we should have more police officers and stuff like that. Well,
the billion dollars should have would have bought some more
police officers if he had not taken that out of
a budget.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
According to to the police head who I heard today,
he said, just like in Boston. You know, Boston police
are down about twelve hundred or so officers from what
and it's similar similar down there in Washington. And the
union head who I listened to today, said that he supported
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what Trump had done, but now he hopes that the
city council and the mayor.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
Okay, well kay, And then another things is grant Another
sase is grant standing because he can do this take
of the city police officers for seven days, and then
after thirty days he could do it again. But after
thirty days, after thirty seven days, he has to go
before Congress and asked.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
The minds thting is it's thirty days that he has
thirty days to house on it? Yeah, so on that
exactly like David, I got you in here, but unfortunately
I got the news now backed up, so I got
to go jump on that. Do me a favor. Call
me when you're in Boston, call me you were in
you in Washington. You're gentlemen. Thank you very much.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
Okay, Yeah, I definitely listened to every night.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Thank you, thank you much, appreciate it. Right back on nights,
right after the news at the bottom of the.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Hour, it's night Side with.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
All right, here we go, we'll get back to the phones.
We're going to go to Laurie in the beautiful state
of hot of Idaho. Hi Laurie, how are you.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
I know it's non day, but you know what, it's August,
so I'm doing great.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah, yeah, I hope the weather right there. We got
warm weather here coming for the next three days.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
Yeah, it's we got a heat advisory. It was ninety
something today and it's nice and toasty and there are
the community. Though I miss humidity, but well, we'll come
back here.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
We'll have some humidity for you for the next.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
You can put some on a box and send it here.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
We're going marshally. What's your what's your take on Donald
Trump's statement today? Decision today?
Speaker 6 (25:56):
I'm all for it. But first I just want to
mention the Williams theodoreth That was I mean, ain't serendipity great? Sometimes, Well,
when you get.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Two guys from the same city and I happen to
know both of them. They're both regular callers, and I
know that they would disagree, and they both you know
they they they're both gentlemen. So it was fun. It
was fun.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
It was william is definitely a gentleman. And it's a
little bit more rotead but but Rock.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Recovered nicely, a little bit of a little bit of
a stumble, but he got it back together, and.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
I don't know how it's alone day, what do you expect? So,
but I mean, I agree with Trump. I think while
California was not meant to be an experiment or a test,
it was necessary. It's something he can you know, look
back to or you know, throw people are throwing shade
at him. He can say, hey, you know, look out,
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look out, calm things down there. It's gonna be done.
I mean, Washington is a beautiful city. I mean it is.
It is an international tour city, and they should feel
safe being there, and that's huge.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah. So I think I heard something today one of
the nightly newscasts that Washington attracts like five million tourists
the year. Maybe they said fifty million, but I think
they said five million. That's a lot. That's a big.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Well, it is because it's you know, it's our country's
capital and then people come to see the monuments and
see the museums and see where our government and it's
they should feel safe there. And I don't like the
fact that I wouldn't feel safe there right now, which
is really distressing.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, I'm with you totally. I'm with you totally on
this one. And I hope that that more people. I
hope he's successful. To be honest with you, the mayor,
Muriel Bowser, is not happy about it, but she said, hey,
he's able to do what he you know, he has
the authority to do it. Let's see what happens thirty days.
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Maybe maybe he's got to call Congress back in and
get a vote to extend it. I don't know if
wouldn't it be one might do it.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
Thirty days might be what it takes. You know, that's well,
how long was it? How long was the guard in California?
Speaker 7 (27:58):
Less than thirty days?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
That turned around a little bit. Laurie has always I
so appreciate your calls. Thank you so.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Much, thank you, good night, don you good night.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Let me go next to Matt in Franklin, Massachusetts.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
Man, yeah, Dan, I'm a little bit confused as to
what's going on because for the past seven months we've
been talking about how we have to hand the rights
to the government back to the states, and how everything
costs too much money. And then as soon as we
do that, Donald starts spending money like a drunken salor.
And I mean, crime is nothing new in DC. It's
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been going on since at least the crack epidemic. So
you're gonna spend all this money, You're gonna send in
the elite FBI who had to do a pre dawn
raid on the hard and criminal Roger Stone, and it's
like it's only gonna lead to more problems. I mean, like,
all you need is the gangs hold up the National
Guard and then they cut the hands on a machine gun,
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or then you have the FBI or whoever blow away
or car full of uh youth and uh it's then
we're gonna put them in jail, which is cost money.
We let everybody out of jail because it costs money.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
So then we're gonna go back to.
Speaker 8 (29:10):
Broken windows, which put everybody in jail, which costs a fortune.
So I just don't know where it's gonna end because
it's not a new situation. It's like Baltimore, Philadelphia. Therefore,
there's always been crimes.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Okay, So let me challenge you just for a second.
So what I'm hearing you say implicitly, not explicitly, but
what I'm hearing you say implicitly is don't worry about it.
Let them let the kids do the kaijackings. Let the
kids do the muggings, just leave them alone.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
Now, I just don't pick the chick involved. I mean no,
The biggest issue with this is, Okay, DC has a
police problem. You can make the same amount of money
in Fairfax County doing a hell lot less work. You
can work for the capital as long as there is
a riot, you're not doing a lot, and you make
more of a better quality of life than working for
washing in d C. The problem is you have someone
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he one of his buddies got attacked, who goes by
the moniker big balls, who happened to have a pass
in corporate espionage, and then you hire him to hack
all the information for the government, and he just happens
to find himself in problem in southeast and Northeast d C.
Which is always Yeah, he got hit by a stray
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ballut by got shooting. Yeah, but that that happens all
the time in every big city.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
It's it's thirty days.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
Of this isn't gonna your empathy, man, I think Matt,
your empathy is overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
But I mean you need.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
I mean it's not like I just said, he's kind
of straight round from the dome or something, but yeah,
he got he died. I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
You that's I was worried there for a moment, but
you were my first call. At heart.
Speaker 8 (31:03):
It's a few sizes too, it's a few sides. It's
too small, but it does grow on occasion, like when
I get a day officitude from work. But what I
will say is, if you give Donald Trump an in,
she's gonna take a mile and this is gonna keep
spreading the LA thing. It wasn't if you think of
LA riots, you think Rodney King Watts and then you're like, oh,
an immigration protests. Let's be calling four thousand national gardments
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that we're gonna federalize and have to spend money on.
California doesn't have to pay.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
For Did you watch what? Did you watch what the
rioters were doing? They were firing bricks uh and uh
and cotton stone.
Speaker 8 (31:39):
The Highway patrol did a terrific job parking under a bridge.
But I'm just saying when they burned down half the
city and doing everything. But yeah, I think it's gonna
be a great you.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Know, it's got to cut it off.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I don't know if you were here back in the
days of Occupy Wall Street when some of the best
and brightest decided to block Route ninety three and the
expressway in places like that where people couldn't get their
kids to hut.
Speaker 8 (32:07):
I remember one of them worked for the city. But yeah, okay,
but Donald Trump federalized in the military to go into
the cities, isn't going to stop it either. And it's like, why.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Don't we see what happens and do me a favor. No,
I'm serious. I'm very real serious with you, Matt. Okay,
because you're a smart guy. We may disagreement. You're a
smart guy, uh, and you're you're very flexible with words
and all that. If a month from now crime has
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dropped in Washington, I'd like you to call back and say,
you know what, Dan, maybe Trump was right. If, on
the other hand, a month from no crime is just
as bad and there are people being spotted in the streets,
I want you to call back and take a victory leap.
How about that.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
I think they can.
Speaker 8 (32:58):
I think they can wait thirty forty days to solve
their parentsal disputes and they'll be right back to what
it was like.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Well again, I mean, I'm just saying, let's see what happens. Okay,
I think things have quieted down in Los Angeles.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
In my opin, yeah, we get we get invented, we
get invad Philadelphia, New York, Chicago, and yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
If the mayors aren't capable of if the mayors aren't
capable of keeping the street. You live in Franklin, Massachusetts,
which is a very safe community. I don't know that
you feel the same way if you lived in the
urban area, to be really honest with you, but that's
that's the question only you can answer in your in
your heart. Thanks Matt, gotta.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Go when I got it.
Speaker 8 (33:40):
When I got to DC, I don't.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
Come out at night in southeast or Northeast.
Speaker 8 (33:44):
Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
And I'm there coming back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
I get three calls hanging out, so I'm gonna give
each of them about two and a half minutes. Gonna
start with Julian Marlborough. Julie, you're taking the time to
call you next on Nightside?
Speaker 9 (34:06):
How are you on the first time? I am, well,
thank you. So there's a gentleman that you're.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I think you said you were first time called Julie. Well,
give you quick round of a cause if you are
all right, thanks, I want to also do speak right
into that mouthpiece for me. You know you're on a
cell phone. Speak right into that mouthpiece, go right ahead.
Speaker 9 (34:27):
So I just want to say that there is somebody
that mentioned how piance should also be accountable.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yes, I have.
Speaker 9 (34:36):
Three children that are in the early twenties, and it
is a different society nowadays, right, Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
That you, by the way, I should have mentioned in
that caller. I don't think you can legally hold parents accountable.
I mean, morally you may be able to hold them accountable,
but I think it's a very difficult concept to try
to to do.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
To go right ahead, it is.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
But what else my thoughts were? So, you know, a
policemen are going up against the world side of human beings, right,
and they go home with this stuff in their head
and lean. So clearly there's a lot of people, you know,
they don't want to do their jobs, so we are
down low. If Trump thinks that's the thing to do,
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then do it, because nothing seems to work right.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Well, I also think that I think that a lot
of cities have decided to save money by not hiring police,
and actually in Boston they waste more money on police
over time they hired more people.
Speaker 9 (35:41):
I agree. I saw four the other day doing a
detail on a one lane road. You got it anyway,
I think nowadays maybe even rather than you know, just
slapping these kids drift, put them in one of those
tubes where they have to learn to find and actually earn.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
So I think, did you've hit something there? And I
we should talk about that some night. That we got
to take a different approach to uh, you know, crime
for particularly young people. Get them off, get them off
the crime track, get him out of town, separate them
from their buddies. Uh, you know, put them out in
rural areas. Make them do something simple as.
Speaker 9 (36:18):
That, because nowadays they think they should just be given everything.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
And I through Julie, Julie, I love, I loved your call,
but I got I got.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
To behind you and thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
T come on back. I'm looking forward to call number
two from Julie from Thanks Julie wasn't too bad. Huh. Okay,
let me go to Pete Revere or Pete next on nights.
I gotta be quick for me Pete and if Pete
isn't there, we'll put Pete on hold. We'll come back
to Pete in a moment, and let's go to John
and Boston. John, you're next on nights.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I go right ahead, Thanks, Jan. I just wanted to
see that the disrespect showing tour Capital City with the squall,
the graffiti, with the crimes. Our people should feel that
should be the safest city in the country. And they're
not enforcing the laws or their rest of these kids,
and they're letting them out. The judges letting them out
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is letting them out. They're getting them off easy with
all consequences. They're just all that does is in bolden
the gangs and bolden the criminal activity there, and it's
just it's just magnify look at the attacks on the citizens.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I think I think that you're saying the same thing
that Jewel, that Julie from Marlboro and I were just saying,
and that is we don't have to put them in
a chain gang, but move them out to some sort
of you know, initially give them a chance, bring them
out to a low security farm or something like that
where they actually will work with their hands, get them,
get them out of the city, get them away from
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their friends, get them away from their gangs, give them
a break, and if they want to take advantage of
the break, great, If they don't, they need give him
some hard time.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Well, so he's gonna be very dangerous, very anyone's shooting
at people, trying to kill people, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
No, Yeah, that is not the sort of kid I'm
talking about. No, I'm talking about some kid who who
commits a low level crime, you know, smashes the car window.
Got to pay a price, John, I like two more.
I gotta get to here.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Man.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
You always call late, but I want to try to
give everybody a quick chance.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
You made some great points, so I was the hold
them accountable force laws?
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Then thank you much. Is Pete back there? Let me
go back to Pete one more time. Pete you there.
Speaker 10 (38:34):
He's gotta be qrist. You're a manager, I say, is
not going to give you the email today? I guess
maybe he didn't. You've been picking up tomorrow. It correct,
Albert Gary Gary not Jerry Gary Man rang all right, everybody,
everybody high level people on the TV now you're trying.
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Maybe it is.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
They call it jerry mandering, but way it was, Governor Gary,
it was.
Speaker 10 (38:59):
Pronounced you're correct, nice vice presson, not a Madison tool.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (39:04):
And one little thing, Baltemore, I worked at it. If
it's see your silence, Baltemore, just so you'll know, thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
That's what they say down there, but it's pronounced bal
to yea properly. Thank you much. All right, good night, Laurie.
I can give you maybe thirty seconds. Go ahead, Laurie.
Speaker 11 (39:19):
Okay, I'm want to count a Matt from Easton. I'm
from Nowen, and I'm glad we have a man of
action in the White House. I support Trump one hundred percent.
We got to get these criminals tougher laws and arrest them.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
All right, you got it in and you did it quickly.
You call earlier. You're going to be a good caller.
Thanks Laurie, appreciate your time. Thank you very much. Done
for the night. Everybody want to thank Rob. We had
a couple of bumps in the road, Rob, but we
did Okay. I want to thank Marita. I want to
thank all the callers, particularly new callers, and I want
to thank all of you listening. My name's Dan Ray.
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This is nightside. Our dogs, all cats, all pets go
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I do believe you'll see them again. See you in
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I will be on Facebook Live Facebook Nights Out with
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It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's
Radio where we are talking this hour will continue to
talk about President Trump's decision to federalize the DC City Police. Obviously, Washington,
d C. Is a federal city, but it has also
(00:23):
city government as a mayor and a city council. The
mayor recognizes that the president has the authority for thirty
days to federalize the local police department. The head of
the union down there tonight was quoted. I heard him
on one of the television stations saying that he supported
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the president, that his police department was down. It should
have four thousand members and it's down to like thirty
one hundred and eighty. I think he's eight hundred below
his staff where he put should be staffed. So it's
an interesting action that the President has taken, and if
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it works, he should be received credit for it. If
it doesn't work, he should take blame for it. But
I think it's worth it. DC has been a tough
city for a long time now. There are elegant parts
of Washington that where crime now is affected everywhere, okay,
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and you have members of Congress who have been attacked
in their own apartment buildings, and in one case a
Democratic member of Congress whose name is I. G. Craig
in twenty twenty three. Another Democrat in twenty twenty three,
Henry Quaar, Democrat from Texas, there was an intent of carjacking.
(01:51):
His car actually was hijacked. And there was a Washington
Commodore football player who's still playing, by the way, Brian
Robinson shot in an attempted robbery by a fourteen year
old and a seventeen year old in two thousand and two.
And if this is happening to high profile people, it's
also happening to others. I mentioned the shooting of the
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two Israeli diplomats shot to death outside the Jewish Museum
in May of this year. I talked last weekend a
former DOGE staffer badly beaten, badly beaten, broken nose, just
pummeled by a couple of teenagers. And we lost a
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young man from Massachusetts, Eric Tarpinian Jacquin I hope I'm
pronouncing his name correctly, from Granbury, Massachusetts. He was in
a college congressional intern program. I mean people go to
Washington to follow their dreams, just like people go to
New York and Los Angeles to follow their dreams anyway.
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In New York they want to be in theater. In
Los Angeles that want to be in the movies, and
in Washington they want to be in politics. Simple as that.
Let's keep rolling here. I'm going to try to get
as many folks in as we can and I'm going
to go to Dan in Florida. Dan, you were next
on Nisaga right ahead?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, Hey, Dan, This actions today remind me of that
the Margaret Thatcher in the nineteen eighties when she was
Prime Minister England. She had a saying and that she
is pretty often, crime is crime is crime. It is
not political, It is crime. And I think DC needs
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to get back to basics, or every community needs to
get back to basics. Let the police do their job
and not be afraid to do the job. And if
that happens, then you will have say cities.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah. Well, by the way, For those who don't know Dan,
Dan is a former Tampa, Florida police officer who has
listened to this program. He and I have met. He
is a police officer who while he was a police
officer in Tampa, part of his beat was to look
after homeless people and try to make sure that they
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stayed out of the criminal justice system. And I think
that's an accurate characterization of part of your duties down there.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Correct, And yeah, if we had homeless there were committing
minor offenses such as life staying activities such as trying
to sleep in the park, or their intent was not
to commit a crime, but their intent was just self survival,
then I could help them with that. The ones that
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did want help, and there were plenty that did. My
phone was ringing off the hub every day. You'll still
get a few that don't, but then we can do
with other ways with them.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
But the story, the story that I like to tell
about you, Dan, and maybe people have heard it but
probably have not, is that you actually helped arrange a wedding.
You basically, I believe, provided the wedding venue and also
a reception for a homeless couple in Tampa, Florida.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Correct. Yeah, that was they wanted to get a we
wanted to get married. They couldn't come with ninety three
dollars or I got that. It got a great deal
of publicity, and they ended up in permanent housing, so
the housing problem was solved. They were not a burd
on the criminal justice system. They were not getting arrested
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or getting tickets all the time, and able to help
many of that wanted help. Even helped a full legged friend.
We're kind of up on the anniversary here, I think
the next day or two of Norman the Cat.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yes, and who's now named Danny Ray the Cat. If
I'm not mistaken, we actually had an adoption. I feared
to think how many years ago that was? Dan?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Years ago?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Oh my god, God, time flies, my friend.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I remember it like yesterday.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
But that.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Was But they had kill shelters in Florida, and Dan
took it upon himself to fly up and we we
basically found a home for this little cat. Uh and
with a lovely woman, a really lovely woman in Pawtucket,
Rhode Island. And Uh, I don't know if she's listening tonight,
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but I hope she is. Uh. And she named Norman
the Cat d anyway, should have should have named him Dan.
You're after you because you were the guy that really
saved him, that's for sure. Dan. Great memories, great memories.
Thank you for what you did. You and now retired,
and Uh, you served, you served the peace people of
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Florida of Tampa specifically extremely well and you helped a
lot of people. You and were involved in a couple
of high profile cases too that involved arrest of the
guy that that was actually killing people down there. He
was a bit of a serial killer who was working.
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How was that section of town that he was working in?
It was it was one of the party sections, was
it not? Was it not?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It's called the Ebor City.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Ebor City, I be o R city And he had
killed how many people? Did he finally go to trial
and get convicted and all?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yes, he he ended up getting I don't know his
own death row, got life. I think he had four victims,
and I believe it take a plea agreement, and I
don't remember off the top of my head of its
death row or prison. But he'll never see the light
of day again.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well, if you took a plea, he probably did that
to avoid through a death rope. Dan is always thank
you for your friendship and thank you for your service
to the people of Florida.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Thank you great talking to you, Dan, and look forward to.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Seeing you soon hopefully Okay. Dan occasionally makes his way
up here and we see each other. Thanks buddy. Talk
to you soon.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
By bye bye.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Take a very quick break. It's eleven eighteen. I know
give time checks as often as I should. There's a
lot of things that I need to get better at
as I continue on this job. My name's Dan Ray.
This is Nightside. It's a Monday, or we call it
a Monday. Monday always seems to be a little longer,
but it's good when we're together on Monday. And we'll
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be back on Nightside. Stephen Hopkin did is next up?
I got David and DC Matt in Franklin, Laurie out
of the Great State of Ohio as well, coming back
on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w BZY,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Back to the phone is going to go to Steve
and Hockey. Did Steve, I appreciate your patience you held
through the news. Go right ahead, Steve, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
No, thank you so much. I have a good friend
who lives you know. He's been in Washington for like
ten years. He's a ten minute walk away from the
White House. And one of the big problems that he
says is that the sort of the lack of punishment
for the teenagers in the area who are just committing
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the car break ins and stealing packages and assaulting people
and mugging people. You know, it's absolutely constant for him
and his friends, Like when they walk down the street,
there's broken windows from the cars like everywhere.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Though.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
He was coming back from a restaurant late night and
saw like seven kids breaking into a convertible, you know,
cutting the roof open, and he yelled over to them, hey,
cut that out. And what do they do. They don't stop.
They run, the seven of them run down and and
then beat the crap out of them. You know, he's
had other friends who've been bugged and things, and you know,
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he he really sits there and thinks that what needs
to happen is the parents of these teens and young
adults and things like that need to also be held
liable because they just they don't get in enough trouble
to stop their behavior. And you know, as you had
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someone saying earlier, crime is crime is crime. If we
look the other way and say, you know, try to
stop these kids from you know, getting in trouble for
these petty things, they don't stop. Their behavior only gets
hardened and worsened. And you know, the not being able
to go out at nighttime in any place in the
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United States, I think is an absolute disgrace. You know,
when you hear about, you know, Chicago having one hundred
people or one hundred and twenty people shot on the
fourth of July, you know, I think the National Guard
should be there as well. You know, the people, whether
you're living in a nice place like I do in Hoptington,
or whether you're in like what you would call a
ghetto or a project or something like this. Not a
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ghetto anymore, but like a project housing thing where the
people just live in fear every day. What is the
National Guard for? I have absolutely no problem with, you know,
the National Guard going in and supporting a police force
in order to stop crime, in order to make people
feel safe. I was in Detroit, you know, at one
of the car factories after doing some car driving, and
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you know, one of the women who's an older volunteer
at the museum and the factory, said that when she
and her husband go out to dinner, he doesn't stop
at any stoplights after dark because he just blows through
them because he's known so many people who've been carjacked
when they stop at a stoplight, and you know, that's
that's absolutely disgraceful. I just think that every American city
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should be safe. And you know, if there's eight hundred people,
you know, or eight hundred officers down in Washington, you know,
absolutely the National Guards should be put in at least,
you know, to be a presence to make people think
twice about committing crimes. It's just like the Guardian Angels.
You know, just by being there, people think twice about crime.
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And you know, I don't I don't want to hear
stories about people getting shot or mugged or or things
like this. It's it's it should not be happening, especially
in Washington, d C. But here in Boston and here
in you know, Detroit or la or or wherever.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Well, there's a lot of cities that and I haven't
been in many other cities recently, but in some cities
that you get into, if you get into a tough neighborhood,
one of the things you have to make sure of
is you don't if you are stopped in a light
at a red light, you don't want to creep up
on the bumper of the person in front of you.
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You always have to have oh yeah, playing if all
of a sudden, you see something, got to keep your
doors locked, you can't. You have to unfortunately be alert.
But the other thing is that I think that a
lot of folks who will look and say, oh, well,
we can't punish these kids, you know what they're doing. Uh,
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you know, there's it's almost a little form of particularly
when you're talking about kids who are are kids who
live in urban areas, there's almost almost a little bit
of racism involved in their attitudes. It's like if it
was if you had seven kids breaking into a car
in you know, most suburbs, they would suffer some consequences.
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But for people to sort of say, well, I think
it was Janine Piro today, the new US attorney, said
that they get sent to arts and crafts school. I mean,
you know, it's it's.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Well, it's building.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
So when when the guy with the convertible has his
roof ripped open, his everyone's insurance rates go up. You know,
it becomes it becomes more expensive to own a car
to drive in a city.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
And when people successful, Yeah, when when people sit there
and they step back and they try to throw the
race card and things in when you're talking about poor people.
And unfortunately in this country, a lot of the poor
are minorities. When when you know, in Washington itself, they
had a huge uproar a year ago because a major
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supermarket had to.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Close because of theft.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
They said they put three hundred thousand dollars of extra security,
uh you know, into the building and into staffing and stuff.
They still lost like five hundred thousand dollars worth of
inventory in six months and they closed. The people that
it was hurting is the poor and the people who
lived in that area. So the focals when you stop crime,
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the poor and the and the you know, the the
people who are there who as in areas that are
predominant minorities, they are the places where the people are
screaming for more help. And you know, the people who
are anti police and anti this. It's only hurting the
communities who need it the most.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
That is, I don't worry in my community.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
You would not tolerate it in a suburban community, but
somehow no one is concerned about it in poorer neighborhoods.
And I don't care what your economic status is. I believe,
truly believe that everybody wants the same They want you know,
safety and comfort for their family, whether or not it's
someone living in a twenty million dollar mansion or someone
(15:40):
who's who's renting an apartment for three hundred dollars a
month and in a small apartment. They want comfort, they
want security. Whatever they have, they don't want that stolen.
They don't want to be terrorized. They don't want to
be facing someone with a knife or a gun. We
all feel the same way. The only people who don't
feel that way are the people who are so messed
(16:01):
up on drugs they have to the only the only alternate,
the alternative that they have to keep their drug habit
going is by robbing people or stealing there or stealing
from people.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Yeah, I actually work in a prison. I do medical
a in a prison, and so recidicism is terrible, but
it is now it's not what it was fifteen years ago.
You know, now it is there's so many people who
have drug problems, and it is it takes over their
mental and everything about them just turns into somehow getting money.
(16:37):
You know, nobody loans drugs. They cost money. They have
to steal. Yeah, it's an addiction, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
An absolutely addiction.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
But Steve, when you when you have kids who are
going out with their friends, a gang of kids who
are holding up people and mugging people and knocking people
out and things like this. This when I was in
medical school in Boston around Longwood, you know, thirty years
ago or twenty five years ago, there were gangs of
young teenagers who were holding people up. There were gangs
(17:06):
of young girls, there were gangs of young boys, and
it was terrorizing that area. And you know, when you have.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Six years you know the area.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
You're talking about it right, we're Brigaban Women's Hospital is Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
If you have someone who's not you know, who doesn't
care about getting in trouble or doesn't think they're going
to get in trouble, and they have a knife, it
doesn't matter whether they're thirteen years old or whether they're
twenty five. You can still get stabbed and die from
someone with a knife or get shot. I'm much more
worried with a younger child, or you know, a teenager
with a you know, thirteen to an eighteen or a
(17:40):
twenty year old with a gun than I am someone
who's thirty who has some wisdom who says, if I
shoot a person, I'm going to go to jail. You know,
I think he's more you know, he he may want
my money and he's using the gun. But thirteen year
old has been playing video games and watching violent movies
and has no wisdom, is much more likely to shoot
me just on a whim.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
So well, doctor Seed, I am honored that you would
call my program.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Yea, yes, it's great. I listened to it when I'm
driving back and forth to Buster on call.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
So keep it up.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
You're wonderful.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Appreciate you, Steve. I appreciate what you do. Thank you
very much. Speak fan of doctors and nurses. All right,
let me go to David and DC. David, welcome, You
are next on Nightside. They're going to push the newscast
a couple of minutes here to accommodate.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
Go ahead, Dave, Ahi Van. I think that Donald Trump
has some nerve even comments on the subjects. His hand's
not clean. He has four police officers dead down here.
He has guys police officers with the eyes goled out,
with the fingers cut off from the riot Act. And
then he has the nerve to call the National Guard
(18:47):
up and now he could have done it on January sixth,
and then also he's had thirteen judges spots vacant he
has not filled. And he also took a billion dollars
as a government budget. So how can you have clean
hands and talk about crime?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Well, first of all, you said that he has four
officers who were dead. Explain to explained to me those
circum because I know what you're talking about, and I
think that two, at least two of those, perhaps three
of those officers were suicides long after January sixth. How
(19:28):
do you attribute that.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
To Donald David? Suicide be kind of what happened on
January sixth, the support that he did not give them
fair enough.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Okay, that's that's your argument and the one gentleman. First,
first of all, I agree with you, and I think
that the actions of the people who engaged in violence
on January sixth never should have been had their sentences commuted.
So I think we're we're square on the money there those.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
People who So he actually added to what crime statistics himself.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Well, he now I want to be David. I'd like
to be in fairness to him. Okay, did he make
a mistake in my opinion of assembling that crowd. Absolutely,
I've said that, But he said to that crowd, We're
going to march peacefully.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
And he sits on his butt. Not not not call
him off.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yes, I was wrong and he was wrong on that.
He was dead.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Well did not call it the National Guard?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Well, no, the the He I don't know that he
had the authority. I believe that the House. Let me,
let me, let me try to give you my explanation
if you don't mind. I don't cut people off, but
I do. In conversation, Okay, okay, he requested the National
Guard in advance of January sixth, and Nancy Pelosi, who
(20:54):
was in charge of the Capitol building, he does not
is not in charge of the Capitol building. She declined
that offer.
Speaker 7 (21:04):
Okay, okay, how how come you can just turn them
loose now in a moment's notice.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Because the capital, just the Capitol grounds are controlled by
the Speaker of the House.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
And I have read enough and have seen enough to
know that he requested of her, and she felt apparently
it was not necessary. I think the huge mistake that
he made was summoning that crowd to Washington, particularly on
that day. Okay, he basically created a scenario. So I
(21:41):
will agree with you on that, and.
Speaker 7 (21:44):
He didn't stop it, though he sat on his hands
and didn't do anything for hours. He could have said
something to stop it.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I agree with you on that as well.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
And then he's got us down thirteen judges, which Congress
has the judge. He has to apput the judges and
set them to Congress to get approved heavily.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
What happens on that one, Dave, I'm going to disagree
with you normally on that one. I'm sure that I
don't know that he has thirteen federal judges. They may be.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
No, we have a judges are appointed by Congress. In
the federal judges. We don't have we don't have many
local DC judges here, Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
But what I'm saying is normally what happens is whoever
the president is, whether it was a Democrat, the Republicans
solold that process down. And I guarantee you that if
the Democrats, that if the Democrats would go along with it,
he would appoint as many judges as he could summon tomorrow.
Because the presidents love to getice.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Yeah okay, yeah, you think he's going to yah, So
he's going to do all of a sudden all of
a sudden he can appoint the judges.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
You know, well, that's good. I think he would. But
I think any delay generally in the appointment of judges
as a rule, comes from the minority party, the party
that is out of power, because they tend to try
to slow down and question every last judge that a
president of the other party nominates. David, I really enjoyed
(23:09):
you call.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Have you called me.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
If this is my first time? But one more thing,
we want to give you a quick.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Round of the clause calling a good job.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Go ahead, Yeah, I'm ax from Boston down I live
down there. Now, all right, fifty.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
But listen wherever you are, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
He held a h a billion dollars out of out
of out of a budget, and so now he says
we should have more police officers and stuff like that. Well,
the billion dollars should have would have bought some more
police officers if he had not taken that out of
a budget.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
According to to the police head who I heard today,
he said, just like in Boston. You know, Boston police
are down about twelve hundred or so officers from what
and it's similar similar down there in Washington. And the
union head who I listened to today, said that he supported
(24:09):
what Trump had done, but now he hopes that the
city council and the mayor.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
Okay, well kay, And then another things is grant Another
sase is grant standing because he can do this take
of the city police officers for seven days, and then
after thirty days he could do it again. But after
thirty days, after thirty seven days, he has to go
before Congress and asked.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
The minds thting is it's thirty days that he has
thirty days to house on it? Yeah, so on that
exactly like David, I got you in here, but unfortunately
I got the news now backed up, so I got
to go jump on that. Do me a favor. Call
me when you're in Boston, call me you were in
you in Washington. You're gentlemen. Thank you very much.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
Okay, Yeah, I definitely listened to every night.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Thank you, thank you much, appreciate it. Right back on nights,
right after the news at the bottom of the.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Hour, it's night Side with.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
All right, here we go, we'll get back to the phones.
We're going to go to Laurie in the beautiful state
of hot of Idaho. Hi Laurie, how are you.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
I know it's non day, but you know what, it's August,
so I'm doing great.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah, yeah, I hope the weather right there. We got
warm weather here coming for the next three days.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
Yeah, it's we got a heat advisory. It was ninety
something today and it's nice and toasty and there are
the community. Though I miss humidity, but well, we'll come
back here.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
We'll have some humidity for you for the next.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
You can put some on a box and send it here.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
We're going marshally. What's your what's your take on Donald
Trump's statement today? Decision today?
Speaker 6 (25:56):
I'm all for it. But first I just want to
mention the Williams theodoreth That was I mean, ain't serendipity great? Sometimes, Well,
when you get.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Two guys from the same city and I happen to
know both of them. They're both regular callers, and I
know that they would disagree, and they both you know
they they they're both gentlemen. So it was fun. It
was fun.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
It was william is definitely a gentleman. And it's a
little bit more rotead but but Rock.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Recovered nicely, a little bit of a little bit of
a stumble, but he got it back together, and.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
I don't know how it's alone day, what do you expect? So,
but I mean, I agree with Trump. I think while
California was not meant to be an experiment or a test,
it was necessary. It's something he can you know, look
back to or you know, throw people are throwing shade
at him. He can say, hey, you know, look out,
(26:49):
look out, calm things down there. It's gonna be done.
I mean, Washington is a beautiful city. I mean it is.
It is an international tour city, and they should feel
safe being there, and that's huge.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah. So I think I heard something today one of
the nightly newscasts that Washington attracts like five million tourists
the year. Maybe they said fifty million, but I think
they said five million. That's a lot. That's a big.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Well, it is because it's you know, it's our country's
capital and then people come to see the monuments and
see the museums and see where our government and it's
they should feel safe there. And I don't like the
fact that I wouldn't feel safe there right now, which
is really distressing.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, I'm with you totally. I'm with you totally on
this one. And I hope that that more people. I
hope he's successful. To be honest with you, the mayor,
Muriel Bowser, is not happy about it, but she said, hey,
he's able to do what he you know, he has
the authority to do it. Let's see what happens thirty days.
(27:45):
Maybe maybe he's got to call Congress back in and
get a vote to extend it. I don't know if
wouldn't it be one might do it.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
Thirty days might be what it takes. You know, that's well,
how long was it? How long was the guard in California?
Speaker 7 (27:58):
Less than thirty days?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
That turned around a little bit. Laurie has always I
so appreciate your calls. Thank you so.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Much, thank you, good night, don you good night.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Let me go next to Matt in Franklin, Massachusetts.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
Man, yeah, Dan, I'm a little bit confused as to
what's going on because for the past seven months we've
been talking about how we have to hand the rights
to the government back to the states, and how everything
costs too much money. And then as soon as we
do that, Donald starts spending money like a drunken salor.
And I mean, crime is nothing new in DC. It's
(28:36):
been going on since at least the crack epidemic. So
you're gonna spend all this money, You're gonna send in
the elite FBI who had to do a pre dawn
raid on the hard and criminal Roger Stone, and it's
like it's only gonna lead to more problems. I mean, like,
all you need is the gangs hold up the National
Guard and then they cut the hands on a machine gun,
(28:56):
or then you have the FBI or whoever blow away
or car full of uh youth and uh it's then
we're gonna put them in jail, which is cost money.
We let everybody out of jail because it costs money.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
So then we're gonna go back to.
Speaker 8 (29:10):
Broken windows, which put everybody in jail, which costs a fortune.
So I just don't know where it's gonna end because
it's not a new situation. It's like Baltimore, Philadelphia. Therefore,
there's always been crimes.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Okay, So let me challenge you just for a second.
So what I'm hearing you say implicitly, not explicitly, but
what I'm hearing you say implicitly is don't worry about it.
Let them let the kids do the kaijackings. Let the
kids do the muggings, just leave them alone.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
Now, I just don't pick the chick involved. I mean no,
The biggest issue with this is, Okay, DC has a
police problem. You can make the same amount of money
in Fairfax County doing a hell lot less work. You
can work for the capital as long as there is
a riot, you're not doing a lot, and you make
more of a better quality of life than working for
washing in d C. The problem is you have someone
(30:06):
he one of his buddies got attacked, who goes by
the moniker big balls, who happened to have a pass
in corporate espionage, and then you hire him to hack
all the information for the government, and he just happens
to find himself in problem in southeast and Northeast d C.
Which is always Yeah, he got hit by a stray
(30:30):
ballut by got shooting. Yeah, but that that happens all
the time in every big city.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
It's it's thirty days.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
Of this isn't gonna your empathy, man, I think Matt,
your empathy is overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
But I mean you need.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
I mean it's not like I just said, he's kind
of straight round from the dome or something, but yeah,
he got he died. I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
You that's I was worried there for a moment, but
you were my first call. At heart.
Speaker 8 (31:03):
It's a few sizes too, it's a few sides. It's
too small, but it does grow on occasion, like when
I get a day officitude from work. But what I
will say is, if you give Donald Trump an in,
she's gonna take a mile and this is gonna keep
spreading the LA thing. It wasn't if you think of
LA riots, you think Rodney King Watts and then you're like, oh,
an immigration protests. Let's be calling four thousand national gardments
(31:27):
that we're gonna federalize and have to spend money on.
California doesn't have to pay.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
For Did you watch what? Did you watch what the
rioters were doing? They were firing bricks uh and uh
and cotton stone.
Speaker 8 (31:39):
The Highway patrol did a terrific job parking under a bridge.
But I'm just saying when they burned down half the
city and doing everything. But yeah, I think it's gonna
be a great you.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Know, it's got to cut it off.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I don't know if you were here back in the
days of Occupy Wall Street when some of the best
and brightest decided to block Route ninety three and the
expressway in places like that where people couldn't get their
kids to hut.
Speaker 8 (32:07):
I remember one of them worked for the city. But yeah, okay,
but Donald Trump federalized in the military to go into
the cities, isn't going to stop it either. And it's like, why.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Don't we see what happens and do me a favor. No,
I'm serious. I'm very real serious with you, Matt. Okay,
because you're a smart guy. We may disagreement. You're a
smart guy, uh, and you're you're very flexible with words
and all that. If a month from now crime has
(32:40):
dropped in Washington, I'd like you to call back and say,
you know what, Dan, maybe Trump was right. If, on
the other hand, a month from no crime is just
as bad and there are people being spotted in the streets,
I want you to call back and take a victory leap.
How about that.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
I think they can.
Speaker 8 (32:58):
I think they can wait thirty forty days to solve
their parentsal disputes and they'll be right back to what
it was like.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Well again, I mean, I'm just saying, let's see what happens. Okay,
I think things have quieted down in Los Angeles.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
In my opin, yeah, we get we get invented, we
get invad Philadelphia, New York, Chicago, and yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
If the mayors aren't capable of if the mayors aren't
capable of keeping the street. You live in Franklin, Massachusetts,
which is a very safe community. I don't know that
you feel the same way if you lived in the
urban area, to be really honest with you, but that's
that's the question only you can answer in your in
your heart. Thanks Matt, gotta.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Go when I got it.
Speaker 8 (33:40):
When I got to DC, I don't.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
Come out at night in southeast or Northeast.
Speaker 8 (33:44):
Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
And I'm there coming back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
I get three calls hanging out, so I'm gonna give
each of them about two and a half minutes. Gonna
start with Julian Marlborough. Julie, you're taking the time to
call you next on Nightside?
Speaker 9 (34:06):
How are you on the first time? I am, well,
thank you. So there's a gentleman that you're.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I think you said you were first time called Julie. Well,
give you quick round of a cause if you are
all right, thanks, I want to also do speak right
into that mouthpiece for me. You know you're on a
cell phone. Speak right into that mouthpiece, go right ahead.
Speaker 9 (34:27):
So I just want to say that there is somebody
that mentioned how piance should also be accountable.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yes, I have.
Speaker 9 (34:36):
Three children that are in the early twenties, and it
is a different society nowadays, right, Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
That you, by the way, I should have mentioned in
that caller. I don't think you can legally hold parents accountable.
I mean, morally you may be able to hold them accountable,
but I think it's a very difficult concept to try
to to do.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
To go right ahead, it is.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
But what else my thoughts were? So, you know, a
policemen are going up against the world side of human beings, right,
and they go home with this stuff in their head
and lean. So clearly there's a lot of people, you know,
they don't want to do their jobs, so we are
down low. If Trump thinks that's the thing to do,
(35:24):
then do it, because nothing seems to work right.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Well, I also think that I think that a lot
of cities have decided to save money by not hiring police,
and actually in Boston they waste more money on police
over time they hired more people.
Speaker 9 (35:41):
I agree. I saw four the other day doing a
detail on a one lane road. You got it anyway,
I think nowadays maybe even rather than you know, just
slapping these kids drift, put them in one of those
tubes where they have to learn to find and actually earn.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
So I think, did you've hit something there? And I
we should talk about that some night. That we got
to take a different approach to uh, you know, crime
for particularly young people. Get them off, get them off
the crime track, get him out of town, separate them
from their buddies. Uh, you know, put them out in
rural areas. Make them do something simple as.
Speaker 9 (36:18):
That, because nowadays they think they should just be given everything.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
And I through Julie, Julie, I love, I loved your call,
but I got I got.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
To behind you and thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
T come on back. I'm looking forward to call number
two from Julie from Thanks Julie wasn't too bad. Huh. Okay,
let me go to Pete Revere or Pete next on nights.
I gotta be quick for me Pete and if Pete
isn't there, we'll put Pete on hold. We'll come back
to Pete in a moment, and let's go to John
and Boston. John, you're next on nights.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I go right ahead, Thanks, Jan. I just wanted to
see that the disrespect showing tour Capital City with the squall,
the graffiti, with the crimes. Our people should feel that
should be the safest city in the country. And they're
not enforcing the laws or their rest of these kids,
and they're letting them out. The judges letting them out
(37:16):
is letting them out. They're getting them off easy with
all consequences. They're just all that does is in bolden
the gangs and bolden the criminal activity there, and it's
just it's just magnify look at the attacks on the citizens.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I think I think that you're saying the same thing
that Jewel, that Julie from Marlboro and I were just saying,
and that is we don't have to put them in
a chain gang, but move them out to some sort
of you know, initially give them a chance, bring them
out to a low security farm or something like that
where they actually will work with their hands, get them,
get them out of the city, get them away from
(37:52):
their friends, get them away from their gangs, give them
a break, and if they want to take advantage of
the break, great, If they don't, they need give him
some hard time.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Well, so he's gonna be very dangerous, very anyone's shooting
at people, trying to kill people, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
No, Yeah, that is not the sort of kid I'm
talking about. No, I'm talking about some kid who who
commits a low level crime, you know, smashes the car window.
Got to pay a price, John, I like two more.
I gotta get to here.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Man.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
You always call late, but I want to try to
give everybody a quick chance.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
You made some great points, so I was the hold
them accountable force laws?
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Then thank you much. Is Pete back there? Let me
go back to Pete one more time. Pete you there.
Speaker 10 (38:34):
He's gotta be qrist. You're a manager, I say, is
not going to give you the email today? I guess
maybe he didn't. You've been picking up tomorrow. It correct,
Albert Gary Gary not Jerry Gary Man rang all right, everybody,
everybody high level people on the TV now you're trying.
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Maybe it is.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
They call it jerry mandering, but way it was, Governor Gary,
it was.
Speaker 10 (38:59):
Pronounced you're correct, nice vice presson, not a Madison tool.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (39:04):
And one little thing, Baltemore, I worked at it. If
it's see your silence, Baltemore, just so you'll know, thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
That's what they say down there, but it's pronounced bal
to yea properly. Thank you much. All right, good night, Laurie.
I can give you maybe thirty seconds. Go ahead, Laurie.
Speaker 11 (39:19):
Okay, I'm want to count a Matt from Easton. I'm
from Nowen, and I'm glad we have a man of
action in the White House. I support Trump one hundred percent.
We got to get these criminals tougher laws and arrest them.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
All right, you got it in and you did it quickly.
You call earlier. You're going to be a good caller.
Thanks Laurie, appreciate your time. Thank you very much. Done
for the night. Everybody want to thank Rob. We had
a couple of bumps in the road, Rob, but we
did Okay. I want to thank Marita. I want to
thank all the callers, particularly new callers, and I want
to thank all of you listening. My name's Dan Ray.
(39:53):
This is nightside. Our dogs, all cats, all pets go
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
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