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September 30, 2025 40 mins
Monday, President Trump presented Israel and Hamas with a 20-point peace deal to end the ongoing war in Gaza. Israeli has accepted the deal, as Trump gives Hamas 3-4 days to accept the offer. Part of the deal includes an immediate release of all hostages, the demilitarization of Gaza, decommission the military capabilities of Hamas, and destruction of all tunnel infrastructure among other things. What happens if Hamas does not accept the peace deal?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boxton's
Meat Radio. All right, bignight for the Red Sox. Thanks
very much, Dan Watkins, we'll talk to I just want
these games over at six o'clock. That's I like them
at six o'clock. It's a simplest that So before I
try to get back and talk about Israel, I just

(00:24):
want to take a moment of your time. Tonight marks
the end of eighteen years of Nightside on WBZ. The
reason I say that and I keep these statistics in
my head, but I need to take a moment here,
So to the caller in the line and I'll be

(00:45):
right with you. October first, two thousand and seven. I
had been on the air doing this nightside talk show
since sometime in the summer of two thousand and seven,
and finally Casey, who is my boss back then, said
you know, I'd like you to do the show full time.

(01:05):
And he said to me, one thing I want you
to know is that this is a big lifestyle change,
because it's a lot more work than people think. And
I realized that and I accepted the show back in
two thousand and seven, and we had the inaugural program
called Nightside with Dan Ray on October first, two thousand
and seven, so I've always counted the beginning of Nightside

(01:26):
as October first, two thousand and seven. So here, on
September thirtieth, eighteen years later, we wrap up our eighteenth
year doing Nightside. I'm very proud of this program. I'm
very proud of the people who call this program. I'm
very proud of the people who have exchanged emails with me.
I've met thousands of people in person and on the

(01:47):
phone over these eighteen years, and we start year nineteen
tomorrow night So this is I'm not saying goodbye, trust
me on that, okay, But what I am saying is this.
We work very hard on program. Rob Brooks works hard
at night, Marita works very hard during the day, and
I work very hard during the day, and we try
to find subjects in issues that people are interested in

(02:10):
talking about. Earlier tonight, we talked with Jeff Jacoby the
Boston Globe about his column, his newsletter, which he sends
out once a week. It's a great thought provoking argument.
Every week we try to provide you with information with

(02:32):
different issues. I refuse to do the same show every
night because I think that would be an insult to you,
my audience. However, the only way that I can understand
if you like the topics we're picking is if you
respond to them. So I had a phone call from

(02:53):
someone tonight who I remember talking with him on the phone,
I don't know, fifteen years ago, and he wanted to
have me, wanted to come on as an expert on tariffs,
and I just kind of had it up to here,
and so I sent him back kind of a snarky email.
I actually decided to make a phone call and I said,

(03:16):
we talk open lines here at Nightside, you know, frequently,
and you're able to call in. Please don't call me
and tell me that you're a listener and you want
to be a guest on the program. That's not the
way it works. The guests that we have on this
program are pretty accomplished people in their own right. Marita
puts together the eight o'clock hour every night, four different guests.

(03:40):
I'm not telling you that every one of those guests
are going to, you know, bowl them over, but there's
a lot of really interesting guests. Tomorrow night at nine o'clock,
we'll be talking with the Chancellor of the Medical School
at you Mass in Worcester, Massachusetts, UMass Medical School. He

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concerned deeply about the cutbacks and what impact they will
have on research funding medical medical issues, Doctor Michael Collins.
On Thursday night at nine o'clock we will have doctor
Shira dron on. She was a guest last night in
the eight o'clock hour to try to clear up in
people's minds what is the right thing to do this

(04:22):
fall about flu shots, about COVID shots. So all I'm
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(04:43):
making recommendations as to topics that you don't think we've covered.
I mean that at eight o'clock hour we cover a
lot of topics, twenty topics a week in the eight
o'clock hour alone, and then we have the other topics.
So I want to say, on the one hand, thank
you for your loyalty to Nightside, whether you live in Boston, Massachusetts,

(05:05):
New England, or anywhere around the world. I get statistics.
I know that we're listening virtually by on our podcast
Nightside on demand by people in dozens of countries around
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(05:26):
and Russia and India and the Philippines and African countries
and South American countries, Argentina and Chile, and I see
it every month, so I sometimes get frustrated. I think
you hear me when I feel frustrated, because it's like,

(05:47):
I'm here. This is not the Dan Ray Show. This
is Nightside with Dan Ray. It's been Nightside with Dan
Ray for eighteen years. It will continue to be Nightside
with Dan Ray when we start in nineteen tomorrow night
But my thoughts, in my opinions are the opinion of

(06:08):
one person me. Your thoughts in your opinions are very
important to me, and I'm gonna be very honest with you.
I just was honest with my friend Matt. I didn't
follow him and I was running out of time and
I didn't We don't like to cut people off, but
I told him, Matt, I'm not following what you're saying here, Okay,
So take it as a warning if you like, take

(06:33):
it as an admonition, take it as a locker room speech,
however you want to take it. I want you to
feel empowered to call this show and express your opinions.
I might disagree with you, but we can do it reasonably.
That's been the hallmark of this show for eighteen years.

(06:56):
You don't call this show, I hope to listen to
what I think. I hope you call this show. I
hope you listen to this show to listen what my
callers think. And that's why I do this show. You know,
I have a microphone, but I want to share it
with as many people as possible. That's why we make

(07:16):
a big deal over first time callers. So if you've
a new listener and you don't understand the philosophy of
the show, I've just laid it out for you. If
you're a regular listener, a little refresher course doesn't hurt.
We're going to take a break. I will invite you
to call if you want to call on this topic

(07:37):
which we talked about last hour about are we close
to the end of the line for Hamas in the
Middle East. I share hope so, and I believe so.
You can disagree and tell me why, as Lawrence did
from Jamaica plane. But I just want you to know

(07:58):
that I value your thoughts in your opinions if you go,
you know, like David from San Francisco. We put very
few people in the water on this show. Larry Glick
used to shut them off, shoot shoot them off the air.
We can't do that. That's politically incorrect. So we have
them walk the plank. Anyway, Uh you heard my piece
six one seven two four thirty six one seven, nine thirty.

(08:20):
If you want to continue to talk about Israel uh
in the Middle East. Great, If you don't, don't call,
because if you don't call, I'm going to go to
open lines and I'm gonna I'm going to do that
more often and don't hesitate to make recommendations. Coming back
on night Side Night Side with Dan Ray, I'm BZ

(08:42):
Boston's news radio. But bye. By the way, Rob reminded
me one of the things that I was upset about earlier.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Rob told me that someone called the show during the
I don't know nine o'clock hour and wanted to pass
a message the thoughts to me and that I could
then regurgitate to all of you. And that just really
upset me. Okay, because if you're that arrogant that you
can't call the show and express your own thoughts and

(09:11):
you somehow are going to you know, communicate them to
Rob and maybe Rob right down your thoughts, okay, and
then Rob can dictate your thoughts to me, and then
I can get on the air on a talk show
and say, oh, guess what you know? Bill from wherever
called up and this is what Bill thinks about this. Please,
if I catch anyone ever ever again trying to tell Rob, well,

(09:37):
please pass my thoughts on to Dan. I don't want
to hear them. Okay. Simple?

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Simple? Is that? And that is now how we're going
to start your night team. And we're going to do
it with a laugh and with a smile. And we're
going to introduce Anna from Rosendale. Hey Anna, thanks for
calling in. How are you sorry? You have to listen
through that? That that that comment, that series of comments

(10:03):
by me.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Welcome if robsfulations on eighteen years. I've been listening a
long time. I want to say that I agree with
you about the Mid East Middle East plan for the
Middle East, and I like, I'm like you. I just
hope that it produces the redults. That was the results

(10:26):
that we all want.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Absolutely, let us let.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Us ask you. I did want to ask you one
one question. Did you listen to Donald Trump speak today
to the generals and admirals.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
I was in and out of that. I listened to
haig sets speech, which I thought was really interesting. Uh,
And I know he's going to be criticized for it,
but guess what. I think he told the admirals and
generals what he really believes, and I think I think
he made a lot of sense. Now people are going

(11:00):
to disagree with me or that. That's fine. Maybe we
should talk about that tomorrow night. But you know, I
went through basic training in the military. It was not
pleasant to tell you. You know, there were no safe spaces, right.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
No, no, I hear you. Well, my question was about Donald Trump,
though I did you listen to most of his speech?

Speaker 1 (11:22):
I did, But what happened with Trump is so often
and the reason I mentioned Heg's speech was he was direct,
he was clear, he was focused, he was to the point.
President Trump often is like all over the place. It's
like it's like sitting with somebody I don't know at
a local bar and the guy is just telling you

(11:45):
what he thinks about things. I think the president needs
to needs to have a speech writer, and he needs
to stay on script. I think that now again, I
know that what did you think? That's what's more important
to me. What did you think about his speech? But
the President's speech.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Well, I was very concerned because I you know, people
talk a lot about Biden's mental fitness. I think that
Donald Trump is is.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
Uling a little bit.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
I mean, he was talking about climbing stairs, and I
he just I just I just think he was pretty
much unhinged when he was off script, which was most
of the most of the time. I think it's scary.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, I don't find it scary. I think that he
does that because his bass kind of likes him in
the the honest Donald Trump mode. But but when I listened,
by the way I was listening when he was talking
about that, Joe Biden, you know, fell down the steps,
and it was interesting to me. It's funny how people

(12:50):
can hear the same thing. He said, I'm not going
to rush, you know, I'm not going to fall down.
He basically said what I think most of us as
we get a little older, Remember when you when you
and I were young, and you'd kind of run up
the steps two steps at a time, or you'd skipped
down the steps, real carefully. I don't know how old

(13:10):
you are. I will never ask you how old you are.
But as you get older, do you skip down the
steps as quickly as you used to?

Speaker 6 (13:17):
Of course not I'm eighty.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Okay, well that's fine, no, no, no, And you don't
have to tell. But to say is he's seventy eight.
And what he's what he was saying I thought was that,
you know, he mentioned how that President Obama was able
because oh President Obama when he was president, uh, he
was elected, well he was born in nineteen sixty two,

(13:41):
so he was what he was elected in two thousand
and eight. Let me do the math. He was forty six, right,
big difference between someone who's forty six, and he ignowed
and Trump acknowledged that. I thought that was an interesting
acknowledgment and observe it by President Trump. But I also

(14:02):
don't like I don't like when he when he just
kind of goes on. It was like his rallies. His
rallies were like an hour and a half. It's like
people are out there, but they seemed to like him.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Well they were leaving too, but I just think that
he was talking to they invited all these you know
military brass to come.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Generals and admirals right from around the world.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
To sit there and listen to him ramble on and
all about that, and about terroriffs and about winning the electure. Man,
I just thought it was embarrassing and very frightening, to
tell you the truth.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Okay, now, I understand how you would feel that way.
I wasn't frightened by it because I think that's just
Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
You don't think that he is, that he's losing it
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
I honestly don't. And the reason I don't think so
is he's the same I heard the same sort of
ramblings four years ago, and eight years ago, twelve years ago.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
Oh yeah, I think it's getting a little worse. But
maybe I guess you're right.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Maybe, But he was never like a quick you know,
this is what I'm going to do, ABC and D
thank you very much everybody.

Speaker 7 (15:12):
No, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
I think he thinks he's almost like one of these
guys that thinks of himself as a stand up comic,
that he can tell jokes and he can enthrall the audience,
and for his most loyal people, they probably love it.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Before I let you go, I don't want to want
too long, but I want to say the subject real
quick and tell you that I listened to when you
talk to doctor L. Miller. Yes, and I emailed him
afterwards and he called me and we asked this booke
on the phone two or three times, and I found
I find him to be, you know, fascinating, But I

(15:53):
have a little bit of a problem with the you know,
the whole thing that the autism comes from the line
disease and uh and I looked it up and it
has been kind of just disproven. Did you know that.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
There's all always points of view within medical communities. I've
I'm a big fan of doctor Miller, or I wouldn't
have him on the program. The thing that I like.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
About it, he's a brilliant man. I think he's a
brilliant man.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
And no, right, but the thing that I like about
them is exactly what you said. You emailed them and
he called you back. Yeah, Yeah, find some other Find
some other talk show who has guests who will give
out their their personal email and when you email them,
they'll call you back. They don't know.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
He was very nice, very nice, and I enjoyed talking
to him.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
And guess what.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Thanks Ann, and we'll talk again. Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Okay, bye bye bye.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Okay, let me get one more in here. Let me
go to Rachel and Quincy. Hey, Rachel, don't want to
have to make you wait. I'll take you before the news.
Go right ahead, Rachel.

Speaker 8 (16:55):
No, that's okay, Dianne, because there's no comments for me
to know. All I want to do is thank you
and say thank you to you and your team, and
happy eighteenth. I love listening to you, you know, I
chime in sometimes you sure.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Do, which is great.

Speaker 8 (17:18):
Your time and everything what you do is amazing, and
I just want to thank you from my heart and
soul to you and your team.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Rachel, thank you, thank you. It's a small team. It's
Rob Brooks, Marita and me, and that's it. You know,
I have some people. I have some people, Rachel. I
gotta tell you a funny story. I have some people
who will send me like youtubes from people that I
have never heard of, you know, Joe Smith or something

(17:50):
like that, right, and I'll look at it. I'll say
it's you know, one hour and seventeen minutes long. And
I've actually sent emails back to this guy. And I've
said I don't have time during the day. I swear
to God, I use my day to set up my
show for at night.

Speaker 7 (18:09):
What you but what you do for people? And Rob?

Speaker 8 (18:15):
Rob and I even before I get on the air,
Rob and I will like kind of joke around about something.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
You know.

Speaker 8 (18:22):
It's since I've been listening to you.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Who We did not disconnect you there, Rachel, if you
want to call back, we did not disconnect you. Okay,
I don't know what button. That was a weird button
that got hit Rob Online twelve. I have no idea
how that happened. We still have to go to newsbreak. Rachel,
feel free to call back. You were not disconnected. You'll

(18:47):
never be disconnected on Night Side. I want you to
stay connected. Six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty
six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. We're talking
about the future huf of Hamas and and I wouldn't
a lot of green bananas if I were, if I
remember hafemas and gossip. Let me put it like that.
We got the news coming up. I got some open lines.

(19:08):
We can talk about that if you want to. If
you want to give me some guidance how I can
do this show better. Feel free join the conversation. We're
ending eighteen years tonight. I'm somebody who's into statistics, okay,
always been into statistics. And we start year in nineteen
tomorrow at eight pm tomorrow night. Coming back on Nightside

(19:28):
right after this. You're on night Side with Dan Ray
on Boston's news radio. Let me go back. We got
Rachel back, Rachel, we didn't got you off there. I
have no idea what happened. Go right ahead.

Speaker 8 (19:45):
I know, don't hit that number twelve, ella.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
No, no one hit anything here. I don't know what happened. Look,
so thank you for your kind words. Thank you very
very much for your kind words.

Speaker 9 (19:58):
And it's true, it's you have made a difference in
my life from years of me talking to you about
certain things and Rob talking off the air. But I
wanted to wish you a happy eighteenth and thank you
really from heart and soul. You really make a difference,

(20:21):
You fully make a difference.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Well I appreciate that, Rachel, I really do. And you
keep in contact and call more frequently because we miss
hearing you. Okay, thank you so much.

Speaker 8 (20:31):
All right, take here, thank you you.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Too, good night, all right, Rachel and Rachel back, dude,
let me go to sand in West Roxbury. Sandy, you
are next on Nightside. Welcome, How are you good?

Speaker 6 (20:41):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (20:42):
I'm great, Sandy.

Speaker 6 (20:44):
Congratulations on your upcoming any minute now anniversary.

Speaker 7 (20:49):
Yeah, well, you.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Know, it's what happens is that. Look, I'm somebody who
believes in numbers, and we've done over four thousand shows
and we've I think we've we've stayed true to what
we started out to be. We wanted to be a
place where people reasonable people could disagree reasonably. I think
we've done that. That's not to say that that we

(21:10):
haven't had passionate conversations, and we'll have more passionate conversations.
But I thought our hour with Jeff Jacoby was really
an excellent hour. We've had some wonderful guests the last week.
We've finished strong, and hopefully we'll start strong in year nineteen.
And I hope you tell you friends about Nightside. You know,
I know there's so many other entertainment venues that people
can They can go turn on that television and there's

(21:33):
five thousand stations they can watch in every language they
could imagine. They can watch whatever political show they want
to watch, and they'll always find somebody who will agree
with them, and they can sit there and yell at
the TV screen and no one hears them. Makes a
lot more sense, I think to listen to a talk
show and be exposed to differ different points of view
and maybe even some points of view that you that

(21:55):
you might find uncomfortable. So that's what we're doing. We'll
do it as long as we can.

Speaker 6 (21:59):
Sandy Well, I'm really calling about Hamas because yes, unfortunately,
you can't outlaw insanity. If you could, the world would
be a better place through that. And you know, while
I think that the plan that net Nyahu and Trump
have come up with it is wonderful, I don't think

(22:20):
it's going to work because there's so many anti Semites
that some well meaning, apparently neutral country might invite Hamas
in and slowly, you know, they will become radicalized.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
But I think that's possible. Yeah, But my attitude is
that they have a deadline. Trump and Netanyahu did not
say yesterday, here's a plan. Why don't you take the
plan and get back to us, you know, on your own, good,
good time, and let us know what you think they said.
You got seventy two hours, we'll give you a safe
passage to a country of your choice. Uh. And if

(23:01):
you don't say hello to my friend President Prime Minister, Yahoo,
he's got some he's got he's got another way. It's
the good cop bad cop mentality. And I thought it
was brilliant. But hey, I.

Speaker 6 (23:14):
Mean, I agree with you. I do think it's brilliant,
but I just don't think that. And I think it
will work in the short term. I think, you know,
there's a good possibility that they know that they're live,
their days are numbered. If they don't agree, it's just
the long term. I'm thinking of worlds. They had no
interest in the starving Israeli people. They're only interested in

(23:35):
the starving guys, which I mean gods and people. I
don't know gods and is the right word. But a
horrible situation for anybody. But the press doesn't care about
the Israeli hostages most of it. You know, they don't
mention if they don't talk about it, you know, they
only talk about you know what, and what the guys

(23:55):
and people going through is not necessary except for hamas
you know, and they could.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
City. You're so right, and I'm so glad you called
and expressed that opinion, because the a lot of young people,
you know, their idea of World War two and concentration
camps uh and and the obliteration of six million Jewish people,
they don't even taught that in school anymore. Sandy. That's

(24:27):
a whole generation of college kids who don't have a clue.
And what they do is Hamas has these the provocateurs
and and and and and people who are propagandists who
show them pictures of children and they say, these are
the children in Gaza. They're being starved, and and people

(24:48):
have no context.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
That's because of the media, not you, but the media.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
The media, but but also public education has to be
called into into play. You have look at there was
that professor at Cornell, oh I know, who said that
he was exhilarated once he heard about what had happened
on the morning except October seventeenth. He was exhilarated about that.
He must have really been exhilarated about Auschwitz and the

(25:17):
other death camps. I mean, that's a sick son.

Speaker 10 (25:19):
Of a I know, I know, But let me tell
you what I love about net Yahoo is what I
think I love about myself I'm not gonna quit.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
I'm not going to give up, okay, And I don't
think net and Yaho's gonna quit and he's going to
give up. And there are days when I get up
and I say to myself, you know when I when
I retire, I'd like to go to Israel and join
the IDF because they actually they're fighting for something. They
believe you can do.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
That at any time. Anybody can volunteer for three weeks.
Of course they would intend to the front, but there's
lots of things you can do. I had friends in
their seventies and eighties ago every year for three weeks,
and you know, they would do things in an office,
but you know they were in they were they were
very needed. And you know, so when you retire, you'll

(26:14):
never retire.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Though I don't know Danny will find out, but I
will let you know. Okay. God has been good. I
have good health. I keep myself in shape. I'm in
the gym six days a week, so there's there's a lot,
you know. And I try to eat well and got
my weight under where I wanted to be.

Speaker 6 (26:33):
And you're going to stay that way. God will healthy.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, well, but none of us know, no one knows
for sure, and so what can I say? I mean,
do you think Charlie Kirk woke up that morning, yeah,
three weeks ago and said this is this is three
weeks ago tomorrow actually, that this is the day that
he was going to die. I don't think so at all.
All right, Sandy, thank you so much, appreciate your calling.

Speaker 6 (26:56):
Thanks, take care and congratulations.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Thanks, thanks, appreciate very much. I'm going to go to
Ron in Newton. I got some wide open lines six
months seven two, five four to ten thirty six months
seven nine, three, one, ten thirty. I'm going to go
to Ron, going to go to break and I hope
you'll fill the lines coming up Ron. How are you, sir? Welcome?

Speaker 5 (27:13):
Hi Dan, Thank you so much for having this. And
first I want to congratulate you for eighteen years of
providing us with probably the best source we could have.
And I'm honored to be in the last hour of
the eighteenth year as we as we now take our
step forward into the next year.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, I know Drawn you've been a great supporter of
this program. You've you've been with me at events. I've
got to know you as a friend. That's a lot
of people have gotten to know through the telephone, but
there's also been a lot of people have got to
know personally. And the friendships that I've made are invaluable.

(27:55):
It's a thrill to do this program. It's a thrill
to open up the microphone every night. I know that
there are people around this country who calling occasionally, but
they listen every night, and they have so many other
options to you know, it bottles my mind. And I'm
very appreciative of what you do. And you have your

(28:18):
own experience as a as a first responder for this
emergency team that we highlighted with you the other day.
You know, you went to nine to eleven in the
hours that followed nine to eleven. You've had an extraordinary
career and a very interesting life as well, and you
and others like you at the backbone of this program.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
So I think thank you again. You know, I was
thinking about it, and you've really spurred my interest to
delve more deeply into history. And I think, you know,
for the years I've been listening to you. Now, I
think if if I were awarded credits and ask some exams,

(29:01):
I would be close to another graduate degree in National
World and we have fun at it at the same time.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah. So uh.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
In terms of our thank you very much again. In
terms of our topic tonight, I take the same position
that I did and called in for before President Trump
met with Putin. Uh. You know, in that position is
if we do nothing, then we're in the same place.

(29:39):
We have to we have two options to do something
or do nothing. And I think, just hearing you a
moment ago with our previous caller, what you like about
yourself is that you have a tenacity and you're going
to give up. I I that's what my dad instilled
in me. He says, Ron, just do your best, put

(30:02):
your your best foot forward and do your best. And
I think, you know, that's one of the things. There
are many things that are really you know, surprised me
and sometimes shocked me. Our President Trump. But the thing
that I like about him is that he's he's undeterred,

(30:23):
he has you know, he just presses forward.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
And he's got he's got to look. He's I don't
agree with everything that he does, but I think he's
a much more involved president than Joe Biden. I think
the media, of the national media is extremely critical of him.
I think the national media. You can see it in
the eyes of some folks that are almost rooting for

(30:48):
a recession. I don't root for a recession. I didn't
root for a recession when Joe Biden was president. I
want this country to do well whoever is president. But
I think Joe Biden was the shell of of himself.
He he will. He had a really rough presidency. H
And I hope that that Donald Trump continues to do

(31:09):
what he considers to be right for the country. I
listen to some of the like this governor of Illinois, Pritzker,
and he's like calling out, you know, sell, Chicago's a
free fire zone every weekend. We've listened for We've watched
for years. You know, five kids killed, twenty kids killed,
fifteen kids killed. You know, I don't think Pritzker cares

(31:30):
about how many young kids in Chicago are killed. I
think he all he cares about is maintaining his position
in the Democratic Party. And I'm done with those type politicians.
It's as simple as that.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
Yeah, you know, be true.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
All right, Bron, appreciate it as always, Thank you talk soon, Okay, thanks, Ron,
have a good one, all right, go and take very
quick break. Rick and Bill Rick, you stay right there.
We're going to talk to you, and if anyone else
wants to join this conversation, you can be the last
caller in the eighteenth year of Nightside six one seven,
two four ten thirty six, one seven, nine ten thirty na.

(32:04):
If you want to criticize, give me a criticism, tell
me what we can do better. That's how we make
the show better. It's as simple as that. If you
want to talk about the Middle East, which is what
has carried us for most of this evening, that's fine,
join the conversation. Don't don't sit there and be afraid
to pick up the telephone. We need, we need your

(32:25):
voice coming back on Nightside. It's night Side with Dan
Ray on w Boston's news radio. Okay, let's keep going.
You're gonna go to rick in Bill Rick, Rick, Welcome
back to night Side, sir. How are you tonight?

Speaker 7 (32:39):
Hi?

Speaker 11 (32:39):
How are you happy? Happy eighteenth birthday of the show.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Yeah, well, well, I guess I don't know. I guess. Well,
it's the eighth end of eighteen years, so it's the
beginning of Yes, it was eighteenth birthday, I guess, but
we start year nineteen. I'm thinking about nineteen already.

Speaker 11 (32:57):
Okay, yeah, well it's the end of the eight team
birthday in the beginning of nineteen. I listened to you
from the very beginning when I used to be a
custodian in Bedford getting out after eleven. I'd hear you
in the late part of the night. But I remember
when Charlie Ray was on the show and from the
very beginning, because Paul Sullivan was before that, and I
heard him and brought before that and I heard him.

(33:18):
So I remember your very beginning days, and you know
it's it's but I didn't start calling into what maybe
a little about a year and eight months ago.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Well, I appreciate that I recognize your name and I
recognize your voice. And you know when I end the
show every night and talk about all dogs, all cats,
all pets go to heaven, and I mentioned Charlie Ray,
I forget that they may be people who have no
idea who I'm talking about. Charlie Ray was this beautiful
cavalier King Charles Spaniel who was with us for ten years,
and like any dog, they all leave much too soon,

(33:51):
and they crossed that brainbow Bridge and I hope they
we'll all see them again someday.

Speaker 11 (33:56):
Absolutely. I just wanted to say I always pictured Charlie
Ray as a black line. I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
No, he's a cavalier king child Spaniel and I used
to have pictures there. I would send out pictures, card
picture cards. Oh, he was the best dog and really smart.
I love to tell the story that one night I
had forgot to bring his water bowl with me and
in the old studio at BZ, he jumps up on
the chair behind me and we're on I'm on the
air talking and I realized he's sitting on a chair

(34:22):
behind me, and all of a sudden he's like barking
at me and not mad, but he's like roof And
so I shut the microphone off and I looked around
and there was there was some paper cups there and
he wanted water. So I went to the break I
went out, got him a cup of water, found a
bowl or something and he had his water. He was

(34:45):
just dogs are the best.

Speaker 11 (34:46):
Okay, dogs are smart and yeah, just like when we
need a drink, a cup works perfectly. It does a
trick all the time. I just wanted to say, you
are a beacon of hope in my life. You know,
as the world gets crazier growing up in the eighties,
I just remember a better, better time. This is madness.
And when the weekend ends and I'm thinking we're going

(35:07):
to start this week at least, I know you're back
on the air, and uh, well, thank you. I feel
I feel safe. I feel you know, I feel like
everything is going to be okay.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
You know.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Great. That is a marvelous compliment. I'm so glad and
I will always try to aspire to that, to create
that feeling for my audience and for and for you.
It's we've been through rough times, and we'll be through
rough times in the future, but we need to stick together. Democrats,
Republicans and independents. You got it. We have a We

(35:42):
have much more in common than we have indifference in
my opinion, of course.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Always Rick, love your calls.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Thanks for being a long time listener and now a
long time caller. And we'll talk soon. Okay, thank you,
my friend, thank you. Thanks all right, let me get
keep rolling here, going to go to Florence and grovelin
Florence a little tight on time. I got you in
a couple more. We're gonna get to go right ahead, Florence, Okay.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I just want to call in say congratulations on completing
your eighteenth year.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
That's a pretty good run. I don't think anyone has
ever sat in this chair, which is I think a
very a chair of real significance.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
W b Z.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
I remember listening to Bob Rawley and Larry Glick and
Jerry Williams and Peter Mead and Dave Finnigan and David
Brednoy and Paul Sullivan, and probably have missed a few
along the way. Here.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
You keep us well informed, I think, almost better than
the news. You keep us well informed, and that's a
great service. Well.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
I also have more time, I mean, because we can
really drill down on issues that the news goes in
these short cycles. So uh, you know, I have the
advantage of being able to talk with you guys for
a long, longer period of time, which I love to do,
as I think you know, and I love talking to you.
And you've got to keep listening to this show, and
I promise we'll be just as good in year nineteen

(37:10):
as we have been for the first eighteen.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Okay, I know you will.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Thank you so much, Florence than I really appreciate your call. Tonight.
Thank you. Well, let me go to Bill in Pennsylvania.
Bill is a very loyal listener and loyal caller. Bill,
you went next on Nightsig go right ahead?

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yeah, congratulations, Dan. I've been listening to you now for
about twelve years over here in Pennsylvania, and I've got
quite a few of my friends that are listening to
you over here and like your like your other guests,
their callers said that, you know, I can. I can.
When the weekend's gone, I go, thank goodness, the weekend's gone. Okay,

(37:47):
tomorrow night, I can turn Dan back on and I
get you know, I get a lot of information from you.
Sometimes I go check it out, you know, and I
hear you say something, I go check it out, and
I go, man, Dan's about that. But you know, without
I don't know what we do without radio. Without you know,
some talk shows on radio, especially from up there in

(38:09):
Boston WBZ and Dan Ray, I don't know where i'd be,
you know, I'd be missing out on a lot.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Well. What I love about what I love about WBZ
and the radio is that guys like you and Pennsylvania
get to call in and you're talking to people all
over the eastern half of the US. So they're here
and Bill from Pennsylvania. And there are people who now
know who Bill from Pennsylvania is if they listen to
this show. So you know, it works both ways. That's
why I encourage people call the program. Express yourself. I'm

(38:40):
pretty good with first time callers. I don't try to
get people a rough time. I want to hear different
points of view.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Now you're you're a good man, Dan, and God bless
you and your family, and thanks for being on there.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Thank you so much, Bill for being with me every night.
I'm talking again. We'll talk here in year nineteen starting
tomorrow night. We're talking about twenty hours. Okay, okay, Dan,
best buddy, Thank you much. All right, last call of
the night is Tim and Wilbur and Tim. Uh only
appropriate that you're the last call of the night, buddy,
But we don't have a lot of time.

Speaker 7 (39:07):
How are you good? Great joye? Eighteen years huh, not bad?

Speaker 1 (39:15):
And I'm not going to do another eighteen but because
they did thirty one and radio before that, but I
know that real.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Are you on the news too?

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Oh yeah? Oh back in the day.

Speaker 7 (39:26):
Oh yeah, I'm putting my cab right now and I
nice I.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
T shirt and I mug you said me, Well, you
are one of my great friends here in this program. Tim,
and I so appreciate your loyalty. Uh, I know you
had a great time.

Speaker 7 (39:41):
I feeling waltam my new shop at the Waltham Market
basket Yep, I'm there.

Speaker 6 (39:48):
How many?

Speaker 1 (39:49):
All right? Absolutely, we'll look forward to it. Rob. How
much time I got here? I got it? How much
twenty seconds? Tim, I gotta go, I got twenty seconds.
Thank you everybody, Thank you, Rob, thank you, Marina. All dogs,
all cats, So all pets go to heaven. That's my
pale Charlie Rays, who passed fifteen years ago. That's where
all your pets are past. They loved you, you love them.
I do believe you'll see them again. Year eighteen is

(40:09):
in the books. Tomorrow night we start a year nineteen
and I'll be on Facebook in just a couple of minutes.
Have a great Wednesday, everyone,
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