May 29, 2025 • 43 mins
Gary Tanguay Fills in On NightSide
The U.S. Court of International Trade struck down President Trump’s sweeping tariffs on imported goods from nearly every foreign nation, by deeming them illegal. This ruling introduces a new era of uncertainty for U.S. consumers and businesses. Political junkie Sam Mettler joined Gary to discuss President Trump’s stalled tariffs and more!
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The U.S. Court of International Trade struck down President Trump’s sweeping tariffs on imported goods from nearly every foreign nation, by deeming them illegal. This ruling introduces a new era of uncertainty for U.S. consumers and businesses. Political junkie Sam Mettler joined Gary to discuss President Trump’s stalled tariffs and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's with Dan Ray. I'm will you Basy Boston Radio.
Thank you Dan.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Final hour here Gary Tank for Dan Ray. Don't worry, folks, Dan,
We'll be back tomorrow night. The adult will be back
in the room. Order will be restored. The reason I
do the show is I get to talk to this
guy for an hour, my friend from the West Coast,
the moderate of California, the one, the great, the only,
Samuel Mettler. Sam, Welcome to Night Side. How are you well?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Gary? Thank you for having me back. And the only
reason that I do this show is to, you know,
further expose my brand.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
And what what brand that be? What I was gonna say,
what brand would that be? Okay, Okay, I gotta stop.
I gotta talk to you here. Well, let me ask
you this. Have you been following the Karen Reid thing
at all?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I you know, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's okay.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It seemed to me like, I mean, it seemed to
me like she did it, and and but then there
were so many people who were supporting her and said,
no way she didn't. I mean, I don't know enough
about the case to really comment intelligently. I mean that
usually doesn't stop me, but it's going to.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well I think what's wrong with it? Well, what's going
to happen is they We had Christina Rex on it
on last night. She does a great job for Channel four.
If you do want, if you care, follow her on
Instagram or listen of course the wb zeters radio and
you'll get all the latest. But it's just going to
end in a hung jury again. I mean, they're going
to do it for another two weeks. They don't have
a witness, they don't have enough evidence. It's just she's
(01:53):
gonna walk again. And and then we found out that
the defense, not the defense, the prosecution, paid three hundred
and something thousand dollars of taxpayer money for an expert witness.
So people are all pissed off about that.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So yeah, well, I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Sometimes those witnesses, and you know, I've seen the paid
witnesses before, and I have nothing against someone who is
paid for their time, especially if they can show themselves
to be a true, true expert that can really shed
(02:32):
light on the case and give some competent testimony.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, I agree, I think, but you have to do
it on an individual, individual basis. But the problem is
is that it's okay if the defense does it because
she's spending it or her defense team is spending it.
But people are going, wait a minute, this is the
second time around. You couldn't convict it the first time,
and you're spending three hundred and fifty thousand dollars to
(02:58):
try to get her again. Yeah, I think that's the
feeling with it. But anyways, we're moving right along because
you haven't been following in. I'm just fatigued with it now.
Everybody is just so tired of that. They're just like, Okay,
can we make a decision, you know, And yeah, I mean,
let's go. And a poor woman's life is on a
line here, But I think she's just going to walk
again because nothing has changed. They have some there's some
(03:21):
new evidence. There's some more detailed evidence, but not enough.
I don't think to make a determination either way. Period,
end of story. So let's move on to mister Trump.
I'm exhausted.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I mean, I like, like, I gotta tell you. I mean,
I don't know whether to be angry or at Trump,
or angry or at Biden and his people.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
A lot.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
This is where I love you. I love you. Nobody
would say that, Sam. People would either be Trump's an
ass or Biden's an ass. I love you because you
are objective. Please proceed.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah. Well, I mean you have people on the left
who have said that Trump has tried to thwart democracy,
and they have some really good points and evidence to
(04:21):
absolutely make that an accusation that that has merit right.
But what they don't do is look at I mean
extremely extremely I would say, borderline. Oh my god, what's
(04:46):
the word looking for h treason? Yeah, now, borderline treasonous
activity from the folks around the Biden presidency and covering
up a man who was not competent at all to
(05:09):
be in office, and an entire media group, you know,
of the mainstream that I hate to use cliches, but
you know the mainstream media who helped him out. I
mean it cracks me up with Jake Tapper's book, because
(05:32):
I mean, here was a guy who absolutely covered for him,
absolutely had heard I mean he said he had heard
from cabinet members that he shouldn't run for a second term.
The same thing with Chuck Todd, who said he had
heard three years prior that that Biden shouldn't run again.
(05:56):
And and these folks, you know, never investigated further, never
reported on it, and only after the election, you know, say, oh,
look at this, look at this. Isn't this terrible? And
it was horrible, listen. I mean Trump with his tariffs,
(06:18):
with his attack on free speech, with his corruption in
enriching himself as president of the United States, accepting a
a a plane from the cutter. I mean this is
I mean, this is I would say impeachable stuff. If
(06:43):
the Democrats and the media hadn't just overshot their wadds.
If I could say chiefs, you.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Already did collectively. But I noticed that you went, you
went plural.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yes, they they all did that in the first term,
right when the Russia Gate wasn't true, and they were
you know, over over criticizing, over stuff that you know,
every syllable out of his mouth, right, And I'll tell
(07:19):
you the American public gods so tired of the constant
Trump Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump that they said fu and
they voted for him again, you know. And so people
don't trust the news media whatsoever because they can't call
balls and strikes. They can't say both parties are absolutely corrupt,
(07:41):
and the leaders from both parties are both of them are.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Incompetent, competent and they are incompetent.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
And even even we talked about it with Kamala Harris,
she was not prepared for the job. I don't even
think she really wanted the job.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Know she wants the job. Let's just say I know
someone very close to her.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And there was a lot of.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Crying, cursing, screaming, and rocking back and forth on the floor.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Oh really, Yes, she had quite a tantrum. Really, that's
breaking news. Can we get a breaking news sound in here?
Do we have any video? Do we have any video
of that?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Oh? My god, I will not reveal my source. So
my source was there is impeccable and it is absolutely
the truth.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
That's not very presidential.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
No, listen, I mean Hillary locked herself in the bathroom
when she lost. I mean, and and she didn't she
didn't give her concession speech until the next day, I remember,
I do. I mean, because she was too upset and
apparently sobbing.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So I mean, you gotta find some new blood. You
said it, kid, you said it.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
On both sides. Are some people that are moderate, you.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Mean reasonable, That's what I think? Reasonable? Yes, reasonable, just reasonable.
Have compassion for fellow, Have compassion for your fellow. Earthling.
Okay from covering, everybody, have compassion for your fellow earthling
and don't be a dank. That's it.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I mean, I mean, you know, have pariffs, tariffs, I
mean talk about stupid.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
She had it, I mean she you really, I mean
she could have. Anybody with some talent and a brain
could have won that, and she just didn't.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Just didn't have it. I mean, well, but the running
mate was a disaster. They should have pried married. I mean,
of course I had a primary. They they would have
had someone that that could have beaten Trump. They could
have had a moderate Democrat that could have beaten Trump. Right,
but you've got you've got. I mean, listen, the Democrats
(10:16):
have abysmal approval ratings.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
And I mean Trump, if you were just normal, could
you know the Republicans could be looking at years and
years of dominance, right.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I mean if Trump, like you, I have said this
before to you, if Trump came in, was just a
figurehead and just let the other people run the show,
it came out and be Trump and did his thing
and didn't go bananas with these tariffs, he'd be fine.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Trump.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
All Trump had to do was do nothing, and he
would have wanted to do nothing. He would have won
back to back terms and would have set somebody up,
set somebody else up to take a spot. Just do nothing.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
He refuses to be presidential.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, and that's all you have to do, is to
be presidential. I mean, I think it'd be a great
gig if you said to me, Gary, you can be
president of the United States. You can look at it
in your suit, you can fly in Air Force one,
you can sit behind the big desk. You don't really
have to do anything. We'll do all the work. Sign
me up, Sign me up.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Well, I mean, if you a heartbeat, I got.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
A great pension.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Sure, I mean sure.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Anyways, Gary, you don't want that.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I hear a bad job tariffs putin and I want
to talk about the plane from Cutter. Coming up next
with Sam Medler on.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Wz it's Night Side with Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Back here with Sam Medler talking about Trump right now.
I love the Boston Globe headline, of course, that I
had on my phone a minute ago. Oh here it is,
They're on, They're off. Court rulings had to whiplash for
businesses or Trump tarriffs. I've lost track. I honestly, I said,
I go, I got to look this up, and I went,
(12:08):
I don't want to look this up again. So where
are we at with us?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Where are we at with it? He there are still
some tariffs on some countries. He has been blocked from
the you know, really major major tariffs, you know, but
(12:33):
he has, I mean, just talking about it and promising
to do it has moved markets horrendously. Sure, right, I mean,
and and I got to tell you in Asia, I mean,
anyone that's importing stuff. I mean, I have a friend
who thinks he's going to go out of business. And listen,
(12:57):
they make things less expensive over there. And yeah, there
are a lot of reasons for that. And there's some
price fixing. And I mean, if we had affordable prices here,
we wouldn't have to import you know, uh, stuff made
by well, you know, perhaps slave labor. But tell that
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to a person who is on a tight budget and needs,
you know, clothes for the kids, right, sure, right? And
and it's just I mean, you have to look out
for your own. It's sometimes you can't afford h to
be noble.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Well, but he doesn't have a plan. He just said
what he wants to do, but there's no plan to enacted.
If you're going to try to change the economic structure
of the country, it takes years. It doesn't take You
can't do it in a couple of days. It's not
this way President Trump. Like you buy a building. You
buy a building, I'm going to renovate it. It doesn't
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work like that. You know, you have to change company structures.
Things are imported from Canada. Things are you know, things
are imported from five countries and assembled in Nashville. Right,
So you just can't flip a switch and say, okay,
all of a sudden. I mean, look when companies divested
from Russia, they said, these major, major, fortune one hundred
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companies said, we can't just all of a sudden say
we're leaving. We have to take care of a workforce,
we have to shut down corporations. It takes time to
do this stuff. And he's too stupid to realize it.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
He's, like many people these days, a man of instant
gratification needs. And I don't think he's seen he's you know,
the long game whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
He does not like theory. We get it. Yeah, No,
it's not.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
It's a terrible idea in theory. Why is it a
terrible because it's not capitalism. Capitalism is free market. This
country was built on free market. And you know, once
you start, whether it be price fixing or taxing, you're
(15:30):
you're just punishing the consumer and you're you know, and
you're you're also killing business.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, I hear you, because the company isn't going to
pay for You're just going to pass it along to
the consumer. If the car is going to cost sixty
is not going to pay for the sixty percent?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, well, plus people will stop buying the products, right right,
I mean you're killing You're going to kill jobs, you
kill company, these, you kill the individual. I mean, it's
it's all around. It's it's there. It's a terrible idea.
And this kind of stuff has been proven over and
(16:12):
over again to be terrible, terrible for the economy. It's
funny because the left, it's so funny to see the
weird uh change in both parties on what their core
beliefs are because of you know who who is in
(16:37):
their corner who proposes it. You know, the left is
anti war, right has always been anti war. Well, Biden
was pro Ukraine, so they're pro war and they're Ukraine.
I mean years ago, if I mean, if it had
been a Republican that had suggested that we help on
(17:00):
Ukraine against Russia, the Liberals and Democrats would have been
in an uproar for US meddling in uh in war
in another country.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You think, so, Sam, don't you think some of the
Leberals would have said, we have to take on the
evil Empire.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
No, listen, they they know because they don't believe. I mean,
Bernie Sanders had his honeymoon in Russia, for God's sakes.
They don't hate Russia. It's only recently that they hate
that they've hated Russia.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
And and.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I mean it's it's hilarious because I mean, I look
at Afghanistan, the war in Afghanistan, you know, during the
Reagan years, when we helped out the the people that
you know became the Taliban.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Took down the towers of course, yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah, yes, Numu t well, the them housed them. They
it was really the Saudis that did that, you know,
al Qaeda, which was mostly Saudis. But you know, and
yet we're we're friends with them. But the Liberals railed
(18:18):
against our involvement in Afghanistan, right, I mean, that's why
Jimmy Carter uh uh pulled uh the athletes from the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
So now they're you know, they're all in favor of
meddling in Ukraine and Russia. And by the way, I'm
I'm for I'm for it because Russia just you can't
just invade a country and and try to change their
borders U And so you know, and Putin's insane and
(18:57):
has been for you know years, but you know, they're
there and and and then the Republicans are against the
Ukraine war right. And now with tariffs, Republicans are for
these tariffs, right, although some of them are beginning to
talk uh uh, you know, talk out of turn. The Democrats,
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they are all for taxes and tariffs. Let's punish people
who don't play fair and and raise their taxes. Well,
it's it's completely turned around now on what they believe.
So it's it's so it's so odd and everyone is
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so dug into their their own tribe that they they
refuse to even listen to another perspective.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Will it be the demise of our country?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
God?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
No, oh God, I was I had momentum there. I
was expecting something more drum No.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
No, no, I mean I love the chicken littles. We
say democracy is dying and we're all gonna you know,
that's that's the end of us and and we've never
had it worse.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I love well, that's I I agree, Sam, you I
you nail that. I have breakfast with a friend of mine.
He's a great guy, but he's like a nervous wreck.
You know, over this, I go listen. Okay, Vietnam gas crisis, Uh,
the depression of World War, World War one, the Civil War,
(20:37):
you know this stuff has happened, the pandemic. You know,
we have survived, We've been we we I agree with
you one hundred percent on this, one hundred Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
We're too strong. We're too strong a country to go down.
But that doesn't mean we can't be injured. Uh and
uh and have tough times. But it's not the end
of this story here. I mean, it's silly.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Hey, what about I want to talk about the Cutter plane.
What do we call that? Air Force one thousand or whatever?
Here's my thing. Okay, so it doesn't bother me that
Cutter says, I want to give you this plane. Trump says, oh,
it's a great gift. Thanks, and everybody talks about the
ethical end of it, like, well, you can't accept the
(21:29):
gift from another country. Has anybody brought up the idea
is what is on the plane? What is there any
sort of sort of spy mechanism. I mean, I'm basically,
come on, Sam, work with me if you if you
think that if you think that cutters technology can somehow
(21:53):
outwit all of our security systems.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
We've got the most sophisticated, uh defense department in the world. Yeah,
I I I don't think that that's quite the case.
Now they built a plane. They built a plane. Now, no, no, no,
but it's corrupt. It's extremely corrupt. If you think you're
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not going to try to take that after.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Totally and they're going to say, no, we take it
back seas because you can't do anything for us.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Now, what about I mean, Gary Trump crypto, I mean,
it's this is this is like you know, some kind
of of joke. This is like a bad movie of
just the the the the I'm having trouble thinking tonight, Gary.
(23:01):
The level of corruption is satirical. I mean you if
you if you saw this in a film. You go,
it's two out there.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Well SNL, I said, you know, it's it's really hard
to write now, it's it's because they can't out Trump Trump.
Sam got to take a break. We need to talk
about Putin and about have it coming dot. Next to WBZ,
It's Night Side.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
With Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Sam Medler, my buddy from the Love Coast, is joining
us here on WBZ. We're gonna take some calls. We'll
get some people on the line here, Sam. I want
to do that in a minute.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
But first, have they pot at me?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Who the hell knows? I mean, well, right now, let's
see what they got. Let's see what they got. Let's
go to Chris in Peuty. Hello, Chris, you're up on
WDBZ with Sam Metler.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Yeah, good evening, Gally and Sam. It's amazing to listen
to the two of you. And I'm looking at this
and I'm agreeing with one percent of everything being said.
But as saying, it's not the end, it's not the
sky is falling, I'm hoping that this lack of scruples
might bring a little bit les and values back into
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the play, because right now, what we have in front
of us. Who would step up next? It's like, all
they don't those things? How long are we gonna have
to wait for that to come back in line? Which
is what we're found.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Great, it's a great question, Chris Sam, Do you have
an answer because I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Yeah, I mean, Chris, you you would think and it's
really both sides are so dug in right to the
the most far sides of uh right.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
It's extreme. So it's just a time for an independent
to win.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
No, I don't think they can. I mean I think
they would have to be a extremely wealthy and be
they would have to have an enormous presence in you know,
in the in the press, in the media. People have
to I mean instant name you know, uh, recognition.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
So if you're good looking, if you're good looking man
or woman and rich, why would you want the job?
Speaker 3 (25:17):
No, that's a that's exactly right. I mean it it
takes such a toll on on people. You see people
when they come in and when and when they go out,
and they look a lot different. You know, I look
old enough. I can't imagine what I'd look like, you know,
four years. But you know what what Chris is saying
(25:39):
is is, you know, draining the swamp, right, We'd love
to drain the swamp for real. And I don't think
that's going to happen quickly. I think that it's going
to ping pong between extremes unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
And I think.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
I mean, to me, it's getting care rid of career politicians.
Is is the biggest necessity? Yes, that's never going to happen. Yeah,
because they won't vote themselves out, you know. I mean
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it's like, you know, why would I give up this gig?
I mean, look at Biden. That is a prime example,
that guy that well Biden, he doesn't want to leave.
He still doesn't want to Feinstein at the end, Oh yeah, yeah,
they don't want to leave.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
They don't mean why would you?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Why would you? I mean, Joe Biden, God bless him,
thank you for your service. He's going to come back
as a ghost and run. I mean, they don't want
to leave you.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
No, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's so bad for the country.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
But you know, how do you how do you get
to devote yourself out? You're it's not gonna happen. Yeah,
that's that's the conundrum. Unless there's a revolution, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yeah, it's you're right.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I mean, thank god we have term limits for the president.
I mean, can you imagine. I know Trump still thinks
he's going again, but.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Holy yeah, I think he's trolling a bit on that one. Maybe.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, he's so he doesn't who know, I mean, he
doesn't believe it. Of course, he just says stuff. Let's
go to Gary. Oh, he loves Garyan Beverley. You're up
on w b Z. What's up Gary? All right? Gary, sir?
(27:50):
Are you there?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Get here?
Speaker 6 (27:54):
I got just a couple of quick crushes off talk
because that's okay, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
You didn't think market bask good?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Dave was the Bulders?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yes, I did.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Did you see Fred? Did you see my friend Fred Eminem?
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Guy?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I did not?
Speaker 6 (28:08):
Yeah, he was on DC on a TV otherday. He
does a whole clutch of Eminem's at this house.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Oh I did I did see that. I did see that.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Yes, yes, everything you can possibly think of that's an Eminem.
I can't believe the stuff he has.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
In this house.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Hell, everybody's got something. What else you got, Garrett?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I know?
Speaker 5 (28:24):
And I still can't believe you didn't see Jaws?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Hey, Sam. This was another discussion I never I've never seen.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
I know I do game on you.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I don't know. I don't know whether I'm more disappointed
or hurt.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I know, Gary, thanks for the call. You got me
in trouble with Sam. You know I'm gonna you know
what I'm gonna do. I'm going to watch it this week.
I'm going to watch it. I just don't know why.
And I love movies. The two movies I haven't seen.
I haven't seen Shindler's Lists because I just I'm afraid.
And I haven't seen Jaws.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Next time. When are you aheaded out to the Islands next? Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I don't know. Nothing, nothing is imminent.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Okay, Well, because it's the summer, I think you should
go before your next trip out because it will get
you good and and just terrified.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I mean, and the thing, I don't know if there's
a documentary out there, but from what I've heard, what's
there doc or book like the making of Jaws? Because
they made it in the vineyard, right they did. And
from what I understand from what I've read and put together,
I mean, the drugs, the affairs, the I mean, it
(29:42):
was crazy. I mean, that's the real story is the
making of Jaws. I mean, can you imagine a movie
crew on the vineyard.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Oh my god, there's you know, supposed to be no
jumping off the bridge where the shark, you know, do
shark swim? I don't know where the shark went on
the f And our friend Lenny Clark always jumps off
that bridge.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Oh yeah, of course, of course, why wouldn't he?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
It's so funny.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
So what do you think about Harvard and the battle
with Trump?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Okay, this is what I think about Harvard. I think
Harvard has an enormous anti semitism problem. This is what
I also think about Harvard. You can't legislate speech you
don't like or thoughts you don't like. So, I mean,
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the fact is, you've got a bunch of dumb kids
who really don't understand the history of Israel or the
history of the Palestinian territories, who are imposing their own
(31:11):
If you've heard of intersectionality, which is the theory that
all forms of racism are the same, So they believe
that Israel is a white country that is racist against
brown people.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
And what they don't know is that the majority of
Israel are people of color. I mean they look exactly
like the Palestinians. I mean I've been there. You can
aside from garb you know what they wear. You cannot
tell uh an Israeli from a Palestinian. There's no racism there,
(31:50):
there's no occupy occupiers or excuse me, colonialism, right Israel.
The the there has always been a Jewish presence in Israel.
There has really never been a country Palestine. Yes, there
was a Mandate of Palestine that the British, the British owned,
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but really what the Jews were offered after World War
Two and the Holocaust were and this was the United
Nations that offered this was a right of return to
their homeland. Well, now everyone says that's not their homeland.
So't You've got people that have a right to be
(32:33):
stupid in Harvard and I just don't believe that you
can legislate speech. It's actually against the Constitution to legislate speech.
And by the way, I believe this also when it
(32:53):
came to any kind of speech on any other group
of people. And that was That's really what's been the
big problem at Harvard is they have they selectively enforced
their student conduct and people that you know, are Jewish
(33:20):
and Asian and others don't get the same kind of
protection as other groups.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
And so you're saying a fan, I'm not a fan
of Harvard. No, I think that's obvious.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I think I think therely antimate. Well, that's what I said.
You can't legislate freeze speech.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
No, I get that, that's fine. But what I look
at when I look at at Harvard and how Trump
is going to war with Harvard and wants to hold
the money back, I go, doesn't have Harvard. Don't they
have a two billion dollar endowment?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Yeah, I mean that's enough. That's I guess that's a
different question altogether.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I mean when they talk about, you know, the government's
pulling money from their research and so forth, which is Listen,
some of the studies, from what I've read, are important
cancer research and so forth. I mean, don't get me wrong,
But they also have a two billion dollar endowment.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
They have the largest endowment of any university in the world.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
So you know, you can't sit there to me in
cry poverty if you're totally if you're totally committed to it,
and they pulled the funding, well, can't you take some
from your own account.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yeah, well, I mean I think that my issue is
again free speech right and the government taking a stand
and punishing a university for basically it's speech or allowing speech,
(34:54):
I think is an area I don't think that they
should be, you know, going down now if they would
have investigations on actual actions where students were harassed, where
students were stopped from going to classes, where students were bullied,
(35:16):
right and they have, if they have that kind of
investigation and hard evidence.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I thought you were going to say something else here. Okay,
we got to take a break. I was going to say,
I don't know, I was just totally a thrall. I need.
We still need to talk about Putin and how he's
Trump's best friend. That's next on WBZ.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on wb Z
Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Okay, back here wrapping things up on Nightside, Gary Tangwe
feeling it for Dan. Dan's going to be back tomorrow
night folks. So there you go back to a sense
of Normalis Sam Methler joining us from the West coast.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Putin and remember Gary, we'll talk about Putin, but remember
I've got to plug my new show. So people come
on our podcast and take a look.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
It's on the agenda. I got. Now, here's the thing
with Putin. Here's the thing with Putin?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yes, yes, so.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Trump says, you know, to Zelenski, they beat him up
there at the White House, right, they're all over them.
And then Trump says, you know, true, you know, he
gets Putin blah blah blah blah blah. He's his buddy.
So then they said to Trump the other day, what's
the deal with Putin? Why is he still attacking these guys.
I'm not sure what to do about it. I got
(36:33):
to think about it, you know why, because Putin doesn't
care about Trump. And I know I'm stating the obvious,
but I don't know if Trump was delusional to think
that he could actually talk Putin into having peace or
to somehow intimidating him.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
There's no way Putin is laughing at Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I don't know that to be true. I don't think that,
you see, Putin has charmed Trump. You know, anyone that
says anything nice about him, right, he loves doesn't It
doesn't matter, it doesn't matter who it is. But you know, uh,
he yes exactly. I mean Trump has said you know,
(37:16):
very very recently, could have been today. I think about
giving him a couple of weeks to see where where
where he's going to be on this. And I don't
think that Couton is laughing at Trump. I don't think.
I think Trump is too scary to uh not take seriously.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Does he need a couple of weeks? I mean, what
is there to think about.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
I think that that's Trump being generous, hoping that his
his his old friend will uh uh you know, come
into the fold.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yes, going to happen, he's psycho, not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Yeah, it's so hard to read with they're just when
the cultures are so different, it's just so hard to
know what they believe. I mean, I mean, he's he's
obviously he's another megalomaniac like Trump is, right, But.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I don't think I shouldn't say. I don't think Trump
would just evade a country because he wants it. Now,
I know, I I hope, I know, I know. I
can't believe I've said that.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
You never know, you've heard how much he wants Canada
and Greenland?
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Right, Well, yeah, I understand that, yes, yeah, Well, wasn't
he going to take the Gaza strip and put up
a mall. Yes, that was another good one. Anyways, all right,
your show, let's talk about the podcast. Tell us all
about it.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Samilicide it is. And I don't know if your listeners
know that I created the show Intervention and although I
found so light and fluffy here, my bones have been
made in genre a very very dark material. And that
is crime, and that is addiction. And now it's murder
(39:22):
and Gary, I found this out when creating this show Familicide,
which is family on family murder, that it occurs once
every five days in this country.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Yes, we actually have this on. Had a woman from
Needham on this week, Susan whose sister was murdered and
they met in Boston and the husband covered it up
and made it look like an accidental death in the shower.
(39:57):
And they're called hidden homicides. They happen more often that
you want to think. But if you want to listen,
you can go to familia side dot net and scroll
at the bottom to find us on Apple and Spotify
and serious and iHeart, I mean really everywhere you listen
(40:19):
to podcasts, and each week we have people whose family
members have killed other family members. And it's some scary
stuff and it's more prevalent than you'd ever want to know,
but you will.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Do you think that there'll be a video version? I
know podcasts are very big right now. Or is the
podcast venue what you need?
Speaker 3 (40:49):
We're looking to turn it into TV absolutely because yeah, yeah,
I mean it will eventually become that. But in the
mean time, you get to listen to this very straight
documentary interview of someone with first person narrative. There's no
(41:09):
you know, cheesy narrator. It is very deep, very psychological.
And also we have experts on who give take home
advice to the audience if they see any kind of
behavior that mirrors what we see here on the show.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Oh my god, if I listen to that, I'd be
like I'll be I'll be walking around my house with
my back against the wall.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
No, sorry, once every five days, I know.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
I just and all the kids are home from college,
so it's a little tense. Uh, we gotta go, Sammy,
It's great. I love you, great to talk to you.
To check it out an iHeart We're an iHeart media station, right, yes,
iHeart check it out. Sam. We'll talk to you soon, Buddy.
Thanks for coming.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
On.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah, Yeah, we'll see it from Sam this great stuff.
I hope the video version comes out and he did
create Intervention, which has been a massive hit. Rob Brooks
doing a great job. We appreciate it. Marita Loroossa, thank
you for setting everything up. And Dan's going to be back.
The adult is back in the room tomorrow night, right
here at eight o'clock on WBZ. Would like to thank
(42:26):
our guests from tonight, our guests from last night again.
Congratulations to my guy Matt Dooley from winning the Division
one championship with Cornell for lacrosse, and thank you for
coming on the show. Thank you, Dan Shanason for being on.
Cooper Lawrence, my entertainment buddy from New York talking about
(42:47):
p Diddy and oh soo Kanye. Follow it, listen, follow
Cooper Lawrence on Instagram. That's what you got to do
social media and she's got you covered. She has a
different take on the whole a Kyle Hitler thing with Kanye,
and Kanye's got an angle, so check her out. You'll
get the details all right. Time for news, we gotta go, everybody.
(43:09):
Dan Ray back tomorrow night here on WBZ News Radio
ten thirty
It's with Dan Ray. I'm will you Basy Boston Radio.
Thank you Dan.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Final hour here Gary Tank for Dan Ray. Don't worry, folks, Dan,
We'll be back tomorrow night. The adult will be back
in the room. Order will be restored. The reason I
do the show is I get to talk to this
guy for an hour, my friend from the West Coast,
the moderate of California, the one, the great, the only,
Samuel Mettler. Sam, Welcome to Night Side. How are you well?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Gary? Thank you for having me back. And the only
reason that I do this show is to, you know,
further expose my brand.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
And what what brand that be? What I was gonna say,
what brand would that be? Okay, Okay, I gotta stop.
I gotta talk to you here. Well, let me ask
you this. Have you been following the Karen Reid thing
at all?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I you know, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's okay.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It seemed to me like, I mean, it seemed to
me like she did it, and and but then there
were so many people who were supporting her and said,
no way she didn't. I mean, I don't know enough
about the case to really comment intelligently. I mean that
usually doesn't stop me, but it's going to.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well I think what's wrong with it? Well, what's going
to happen is they We had Christina Rex on it
on last night. She does a great job for Channel four.
If you do want, if you care, follow her on
Instagram or listen of course the wb zeters radio and
you'll get all the latest. But it's just going to
end in a hung jury again. I mean, they're going
to do it for another two weeks. They don't have
a witness, they don't have enough evidence. It's just she's
(01:53):
gonna walk again. And and then we found out that
the defense, not the defense, the prosecution, paid three hundred
and something thousand dollars of taxpayer money for an expert witness.
So people are all pissed off about that.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So yeah, well, I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Sometimes those witnesses, and you know, I've seen the paid
witnesses before, and I have nothing against someone who is
paid for their time, especially if they can show themselves
to be a true, true expert that can really shed
(02:32):
light on the case and give some competent testimony.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, I agree, I think, but you have to do
it on an individual, individual basis. But the problem is
is that it's okay if the defense does it because
she's spending it or her defense team is spending it.
But people are going, wait a minute, this is the
second time around. You couldn't convict it the first time,
and you're spending three hundred and fifty thousand dollars to
(02:58):
try to get her again. Yeah, I think that's the
feeling with it. But anyways, we're moving right along because
you haven't been following in. I'm just fatigued with it now.
Everybody is just so tired of that. They're just like, Okay,
can we make a decision, you know, And yeah, I mean,
let's go. And a poor woman's life is on a
line here, But I think she's just going to walk
again because nothing has changed. They have some there's some
(03:21):
new evidence. There's some more detailed evidence, but not enough.
I don't think to make a determination either way. Period,
end of story. So let's move on to mister Trump.
I'm exhausted.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I mean, I like, like, I gotta tell you. I mean,
I don't know whether to be angry or at Trump,
or angry or at Biden and his people.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
A lot.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
This is where I love you. I love you. Nobody
would say that, Sam. People would either be Trump's an
ass or Biden's an ass. I love you because you
are objective. Please proceed.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah. Well, I mean you have people on the left
who have said that Trump has tried to thwart democracy,
and they have some really good points and evidence to
(04:21):
absolutely make that an accusation that that has merit right.
But what they don't do is look at I mean
extremely extremely I would say, borderline. Oh my god, what's
(04:46):
the word looking for h treason? Yeah, now, borderline treasonous
activity from the folks around the Biden presidency and covering
up a man who was not competent at all to
(05:09):
be in office, and an entire media group, you know,
of the mainstream that I hate to use cliches, but
you know the mainstream media who helped him out. I
mean it cracks me up with Jake Tapper's book, because
(05:32):
I mean, here was a guy who absolutely covered for him,
absolutely had heard I mean he said he had heard
from cabinet members that he shouldn't run for a second term.
The same thing with Chuck Todd, who said he had
heard three years prior that that Biden shouldn't run again.
(05:56):
And and these folks, you know, never investigated further, never
reported on it, and only after the election, you know, say, oh,
look at this, look at this. Isn't this terrible? And
it was horrible, listen. I mean Trump with his tariffs,
(06:18):
with his attack on free speech, with his corruption in
enriching himself as president of the United States, accepting a
a a plane from the cutter. I mean this is
I mean, this is I would say impeachable stuff. If
(06:43):
the Democrats and the media hadn't just overshot their wadds.
If I could say chiefs, you.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Already did collectively. But I noticed that you went, you
went plural.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yes, they they all did that in the first term,
right when the Russia Gate wasn't true, and they were
you know, over over criticizing, over stuff that you know,
every syllable out of his mouth, right, And I'll tell
(07:19):
you the American public gods so tired of the constant
Trump Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump that they said fu and
they voted for him again, you know. And so people
don't trust the news media whatsoever because they can't call
balls and strikes. They can't say both parties are absolutely corrupt,
(07:41):
and the leaders from both parties are both of them are.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Incompetent, competent and they are incompetent.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
And even even we talked about it with Kamala Harris,
she was not prepared for the job. I don't even
think she really wanted the job.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Know she wants the job. Let's just say I know
someone very close to her.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And there was a lot of.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Crying, cursing, screaming, and rocking back and forth on the floor.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Oh really, Yes, she had quite a tantrum. Really, that's
breaking news. Can we get a breaking news sound in here?
Do we have any video? Do we have any video
of that?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Oh? My god, I will not reveal my source. So
my source was there is impeccable and it is absolutely
the truth.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
That's not very presidential.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
No, listen, I mean Hillary locked herself in the bathroom
when she lost. I mean, and and she didn't she
didn't give her concession speech until the next day, I remember,
I do. I mean, because she was too upset and
apparently sobbing.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So I mean, you gotta find some new blood. You
said it, kid, you said it.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
On both sides. Are some people that are moderate, you.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Mean reasonable, That's what I think? Reasonable? Yes, reasonable, just reasonable.
Have compassion for fellow, Have compassion for your fellow. Earthling.
Okay from covering, everybody, have compassion for your fellow earthling
and don't be a dank. That's it.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I mean, I mean, you know, have pariffs, tariffs, I
mean talk about stupid.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
She had it, I mean she you really, I mean
she could have. Anybody with some talent and a brain
could have won that, and she just didn't.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Just didn't have it. I mean, well, but the running
mate was a disaster. They should have pried married. I mean,
of course I had a primary. They they would have
had someone that that could have beaten Trump. They could
have had a moderate Democrat that could have beaten Trump. Right,
but you've got you've got. I mean, listen, the Democrats
(10:16):
have abysmal approval ratings.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
And I mean Trump, if you were just normal, could
you know the Republicans could be looking at years and
years of dominance, right.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I mean if Trump, like you, I have said this
before to you, if Trump came in, was just a
figurehead and just let the other people run the show,
it came out and be Trump and did his thing
and didn't go bananas with these tariffs, he'd be fine.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Trump.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
All Trump had to do was do nothing, and he
would have wanted to do nothing. He would have won
back to back terms and would have set somebody up,
set somebody else up to take a spot. Just do nothing.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
He refuses to be presidential.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, and that's all you have to do, is to
be presidential. I mean, I think it'd be a great
gig if you said to me, Gary, you can be
president of the United States. You can look at it
in your suit, you can fly in Air Force one,
you can sit behind the big desk. You don't really
have to do anything. We'll do all the work. Sign
me up, Sign me up.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Well, I mean, if you a heartbeat, I got.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
A great pension.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Sure, I mean sure.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Anyways, Gary, you don't want that.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I hear a bad job tariffs putin and I want
to talk about the plane from Cutter. Coming up next
with Sam Medler on.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Wz it's Night Side with Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Back here with Sam Medler talking about Trump right now.
I love the Boston Globe headline, of course, that I
had on my phone a minute ago. Oh here it is,
They're on, They're off. Court rulings had to whiplash for
businesses or Trump tarriffs. I've lost track. I honestly, I said,
I go, I got to look this up, and I went,
(12:08):
I don't want to look this up again. So where
are we at with us?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Where are we at with it? He there are still
some tariffs on some countries. He has been blocked from
the you know, really major major tariffs, you know, but
(12:33):
he has, I mean, just talking about it and promising
to do it has moved markets horrendously. Sure, right, I mean,
and and I got to tell you in Asia, I mean,
anyone that's importing stuff. I mean, I have a friend
who thinks he's going to go out of business. And listen,
(12:57):
they make things less expensive over there. And yeah, there
are a lot of reasons for that. And there's some
price fixing. And I mean, if we had affordable prices here,
we wouldn't have to import you know, uh, stuff made
by well, you know, perhaps slave labor. But tell that
(13:22):
to a person who is on a tight budget and needs,
you know, clothes for the kids, right, sure, right? And
and it's just I mean, you have to look out
for your own. It's sometimes you can't afford h to
be noble.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Well, but he doesn't have a plan. He just said
what he wants to do, but there's no plan to enacted.
If you're going to try to change the economic structure
of the country, it takes years. It doesn't take You
can't do it in a couple of days. It's not
this way President Trump. Like you buy a building. You
buy a building, I'm going to renovate it. It doesn't
(14:05):
work like that. You know, you have to change company structures.
Things are imported from Canada. Things are you know, things
are imported from five countries and assembled in Nashville. Right,
So you just can't flip a switch and say, okay,
all of a sudden. I mean, look when companies divested
from Russia, they said, these major, major, fortune one hundred
(14:30):
companies said, we can't just all of a sudden say
we're leaving. We have to take care of a workforce,
we have to shut down corporations. It takes time to
do this stuff. And he's too stupid to realize it.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
He's, like many people these days, a man of instant
gratification needs. And I don't think he's seen he's you know,
the long game whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
He does not like theory. We get it. Yeah, No,
it's not.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
It's a terrible idea in theory. Why is it a
terrible because it's not capitalism. Capitalism is free market. This
country was built on free market. And you know, once
you start, whether it be price fixing or taxing, you're
(15:30):
you're just punishing the consumer and you're you know, and
you're you're also killing business.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, I hear you, because the company isn't going to
pay for You're just going to pass it along to
the consumer. If the car is going to cost sixty
is not going to pay for the sixty percent?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, well, plus people will stop buying the products, right right,
I mean you're killing You're going to kill jobs, you
kill company, these, you kill the individual. I mean, it's
it's all around. It's it's there. It's a terrible idea.
And this kind of stuff has been proven over and
(16:12):
over again to be terrible, terrible for the economy. It's
funny because the left, it's so funny to see the
weird uh change in both parties on what their core
beliefs are because of you know who who is in
(16:37):
their corner who proposes it. You know, the left is
anti war, right has always been anti war. Well, Biden
was pro Ukraine, so they're pro war and they're Ukraine.
I mean years ago, if I mean, if it had
been a Republican that had suggested that we help on
(17:00):
Ukraine against Russia, the Liberals and Democrats would have been
in an uproar for US meddling in uh in war
in another country.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You think, so, Sam, don't you think some of the
Leberals would have said, we have to take on the
evil Empire.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
No, listen, they they know because they don't believe. I mean,
Bernie Sanders had his honeymoon in Russia, for God's sakes.
They don't hate Russia. It's only recently that they hate
that they've hated Russia.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
And and.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I mean it's it's hilarious because I mean, I look
at Afghanistan, the war in Afghanistan, you know, during the
Reagan years, when we helped out the the people that
you know became the Taliban.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Took down the towers of course, yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah, yes, Numu t well, the them housed them. They
it was really the Saudis that did that, you know,
al Qaeda, which was mostly Saudis. But you know, and
yet we're we're friends with them. But the Liberals railed
(18:18):
against our involvement in Afghanistan, right, I mean, that's why
Jimmy Carter uh uh pulled uh the athletes from the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
So now they're you know, they're all in favor of
meddling in Ukraine and Russia. And by the way, I'm
I'm for I'm for it because Russia just you can't
just invade a country and and try to change their
borders U And so you know, and Putin's insane and
(18:57):
has been for you know years, but you know, they're
there and and and then the Republicans are against the
Ukraine war right. And now with tariffs, Republicans are for
these tariffs, right, although some of them are beginning to
talk uh uh, you know, talk out of turn. The Democrats,
(19:20):
they are all for taxes and tariffs. Let's punish people
who don't play fair and and raise their taxes. Well,
it's it's completely turned around now on what they believe.
So it's it's so it's so odd and everyone is
(19:40):
so dug into their their own tribe that they they
refuse to even listen to another perspective.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Will it be the demise of our country?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
God?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
No, oh God, I was I had momentum there. I
was expecting something more drum No.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
No, no, I mean I love the chicken littles. We
say democracy is dying and we're all gonna you know,
that's that's the end of us and and we've never
had it worse.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I love well, that's I I agree, Sam, you I
you nail that. I have breakfast with a friend of mine.
He's a great guy, but he's like a nervous wreck.
You know, over this, I go listen. Okay, Vietnam gas crisis, Uh,
the depression of World War, World War one, the Civil War,
(20:37):
you know this stuff has happened, the pandemic. You know,
we have survived, We've been we we I agree with
you one hundred percent on this, one hundred Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
We're too strong. We're too strong a country to go down.
But that doesn't mean we can't be injured. Uh and
uh and have tough times. But it's not the end
of this story here. I mean, it's silly.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Hey, what about I want to talk about the Cutter plane.
What do we call that? Air Force one thousand or whatever?
Here's my thing. Okay, so it doesn't bother me that
Cutter says, I want to give you this plane. Trump says, oh,
it's a great gift. Thanks, and everybody talks about the
ethical end of it, like, well, you can't accept the
(21:29):
gift from another country. Has anybody brought up the idea
is what is on the plane? What is there any
sort of sort of spy mechanism. I mean, I'm basically,
come on, Sam, work with me if you if you
think that if you think that cutters technology can somehow
(21:53):
outwit all of our security systems.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
We've got the most sophisticated, uh defense department in the world. Yeah,
I I I don't think that that's quite the case.
Now they built a plane. They built a plane. Now, no, no, no,
but it's corrupt. It's extremely corrupt. If you think you're
(22:23):
not going to try to take that after.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Totally and they're going to say, no, we take it
back seas because you can't do anything for us.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Now, what about I mean, Gary Trump crypto, I mean,
it's this is this is like you know, some kind
of of joke. This is like a bad movie of
just the the the the I'm having trouble thinking tonight, Gary.
(23:01):
The level of corruption is satirical. I mean you if
you if you saw this in a film. You go,
it's two out there.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Well SNL, I said, you know, it's it's really hard
to write now, it's it's because they can't out Trump Trump.
Sam got to take a break. We need to talk
about Putin and about have it coming dot. Next to WBZ,
It's Night Side.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
With Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Sam Medler, my buddy from the Love Coast, is joining
us here on WBZ. We're gonna take some calls. We'll
get some people on the line here, Sam. I want
to do that in a minute.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
But first, have they pot at me?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Who the hell knows? I mean, well, right now, let's
see what they got. Let's see what they got. Let's
go to Chris in Peuty. Hello, Chris, you're up on
WDBZ with Sam Metler.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Yeah, good evening, Gally and Sam. It's amazing to listen
to the two of you. And I'm looking at this
and I'm agreeing with one percent of everything being said.
But as saying, it's not the end, it's not the
sky is falling, I'm hoping that this lack of scruples
might bring a little bit les and values back into
(24:09):
the play, because right now, what we have in front
of us. Who would step up next? It's like, all
they don't those things? How long are we gonna have
to wait for that to come back in line? Which
is what we're found.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Great, it's a great question, Chris Sam, Do you have
an answer because I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Yeah, I mean, Chris, you you would think and it's
really both sides are so dug in right to the
the most far sides of uh right.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
It's extreme. So it's just a time for an independent
to win.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
No, I don't think they can. I mean I think
they would have to be a extremely wealthy and be
they would have to have an enormous presence in you know,
in the in the press, in the media. People have
to I mean instant name you know, uh, recognition.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
So if you're good looking, if you're good looking man
or woman and rich, why would you want the job?
Speaker 3 (25:17):
No, that's a that's exactly right. I mean it it
takes such a toll on on people. You see people
when they come in and when and when they go out,
and they look a lot different. You know, I look
old enough. I can't imagine what I'd look like, you know,
four years. But you know what what Chris is saying
(25:39):
is is, you know, draining the swamp, right, We'd love
to drain the swamp for real. And I don't think
that's going to happen quickly. I think that it's going
to ping pong between extremes unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
And I think.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
I mean, to me, it's getting care rid of career politicians.
Is is the biggest necessity? Yes, that's never going to happen. Yeah,
because they won't vote themselves out, you know. I mean
(26:25):
it's like, you know, why would I give up this gig?
I mean, look at Biden. That is a prime example,
that guy that well Biden, he doesn't want to leave.
He still doesn't want to Feinstein at the end, Oh yeah, yeah,
they don't want to leave.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
They don't mean why would you?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Why would you? I mean, Joe Biden, God bless him,
thank you for your service. He's going to come back
as a ghost and run. I mean, they don't want
to leave you.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
No, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's so bad for the country.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
But you know, how do you how do you get
to devote yourself out? You're it's not gonna happen. Yeah,
that's that's the conundrum. Unless there's a revolution, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yeah, it's you're right.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I mean, thank god we have term limits for the president.
I mean, can you imagine. I know Trump still thinks
he's going again, but.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Holy yeah, I think he's trolling a bit on that one. Maybe.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, he's so he doesn't who know, I mean, he
doesn't believe it. Of course, he just says stuff. Let's
go to Gary. Oh, he loves Garyan Beverley. You're up
on w b Z. What's up Gary? All right? Gary, sir?
(27:50):
Are you there?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Get here?
Speaker 6 (27:54):
I got just a couple of quick crushes off talk
because that's okay, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
You didn't think market bask good?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Dave was the Bulders?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yes, I did.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Did you see Fred? Did you see my friend Fred Eminem?
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Guy?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I did not?
Speaker 6 (28:08):
Yeah, he was on DC on a TV otherday. He
does a whole clutch of Eminem's at this house.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Oh I did I did see that. I did see that.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Yes, yes, everything you can possibly think of that's an Eminem.
I can't believe the stuff he has.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
In this house.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Hell, everybody's got something. What else you got, Garrett?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I know?
Speaker 5 (28:24):
And I still can't believe you didn't see Jaws?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Hey, Sam. This was another discussion I never I've never seen.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
I know I do game on you.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I don't know. I don't know whether I'm more disappointed
or hurt.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I know, Gary, thanks for the call. You got me
in trouble with Sam. You know I'm gonna you know
what I'm gonna do. I'm going to watch it this week.
I'm going to watch it. I just don't know why.
And I love movies. The two movies I haven't seen.
I haven't seen Shindler's Lists because I just I'm afraid.
And I haven't seen Jaws.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Next time. When are you aheaded out to the Islands next? Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I don't know. Nothing, nothing is imminent.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Okay, Well, because it's the summer, I think you should
go before your next trip out because it will get
you good and and just terrified.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I mean, and the thing, I don't know if there's
a documentary out there, but from what I've heard, what's
there doc or book like the making of Jaws? Because
they made it in the vineyard, right they did. And
from what I understand from what I've read and put together,
I mean, the drugs, the affairs, the I mean, it
(29:42):
was crazy. I mean, that's the real story is the
making of Jaws. I mean, can you imagine a movie
crew on the vineyard.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Oh my god, there's you know, supposed to be no
jumping off the bridge where the shark, you know, do
shark swim? I don't know where the shark went on
the f And our friend Lenny Clark always jumps off
that bridge.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Oh yeah, of course, of course, why wouldn't he?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
It's so funny.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
So what do you think about Harvard and the battle
with Trump?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Okay, this is what I think about Harvard. I think
Harvard has an enormous anti semitism problem. This is what
I also think about Harvard. You can't legislate speech you
don't like or thoughts you don't like. So, I mean,
(30:50):
the fact is, you've got a bunch of dumb kids
who really don't understand the history of Israel or the
history of the Palestinian territories, who are imposing their own
(31:11):
If you've heard of intersectionality, which is the theory that
all forms of racism are the same, So they believe
that Israel is a white country that is racist against
brown people.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
And what they don't know is that the majority of
Israel are people of color. I mean they look exactly
like the Palestinians. I mean I've been there. You can
aside from garb you know what they wear. You cannot
tell uh an Israeli from a Palestinian. There's no racism there,
(31:50):
there's no occupy occupiers or excuse me, colonialism, right Israel.
The the there has always been a Jewish presence in Israel.
There has really never been a country Palestine. Yes, there
was a Mandate of Palestine that the British, the British owned,
(32:12):
but really what the Jews were offered after World War
Two and the Holocaust were and this was the United
Nations that offered this was a right of return to
their homeland. Well, now everyone says that's not their homeland.
So't You've got people that have a right to be
(32:33):
stupid in Harvard and I just don't believe that you
can legislate speech. It's actually against the Constitution to legislate speech.
And by the way, I believe this also when it
(32:53):
came to any kind of speech on any other group
of people. And that was That's really what's been the
big problem at Harvard is they have they selectively enforced
their student conduct and people that you know, are Jewish
(33:20):
and Asian and others don't get the same kind of
protection as other groups.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
And so you're saying a fan, I'm not a fan
of Harvard. No, I think that's obvious.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I think I think therely antimate. Well, that's what I said.
You can't legislate freeze speech.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
No, I get that, that's fine. But what I look
at when I look at at Harvard and how Trump
is going to war with Harvard and wants to hold
the money back, I go, doesn't have Harvard. Don't they
have a two billion dollar endowment?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Yeah, I mean that's enough. That's I guess that's a
different question altogether.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I mean when they talk about, you know, the government's
pulling money from their research and so forth, which is Listen,
some of the studies, from what I've read, are important
cancer research and so forth. I mean, don't get me wrong,
But they also have a two billion dollar endowment.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
They have the largest endowment of any university in the world.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
So you know, you can't sit there to me in
cry poverty if you're totally if you're totally committed to it,
and they pulled the funding, well, can't you take some
from your own account.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yeah, well, I mean I think that my issue is
again free speech right and the government taking a stand
and punishing a university for basically it's speech or allowing speech,
(34:54):
I think is an area I don't think that they
should be, you know, going down now if they would
have investigations on actual actions where students were harassed, where
students were stopped from going to classes, where students were bullied,
(35:16):
right and they have, if they have that kind of
investigation and hard evidence.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I thought you were going to say something else here. Okay,
we got to take a break. I was going to say,
I don't know, I was just totally a thrall. I need.
We still need to talk about Putin and how he's
Trump's best friend. That's next on WBZ.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on wb Z
Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Okay, back here wrapping things up on Nightside, Gary Tangwe
feeling it for Dan. Dan's going to be back tomorrow
night folks. So there you go back to a sense
of Normalis Sam Methler joining us from the West coast.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Putin and remember Gary, we'll talk about Putin, but remember
I've got to plug my new show. So people come
on our podcast and take a look.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
It's on the agenda. I got. Now, here's the thing
with Putin. Here's the thing with Putin?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yes, yes, so.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Trump says, you know, to Zelenski, they beat him up
there at the White House, right, they're all over them.
And then Trump says, you know, true, you know, he
gets Putin blah blah blah blah blah. He's his buddy.
So then they said to Trump the other day, what's
the deal with Putin? Why is he still attacking these guys.
I'm not sure what to do about it. I got
(36:33):
to think about it, you know why, because Putin doesn't
care about Trump. And I know I'm stating the obvious,
but I don't know if Trump was delusional to think
that he could actually talk Putin into having peace or
to somehow intimidating him.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
There's no way Putin is laughing at Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I don't know that to be true. I don't think that,
you see, Putin has charmed Trump. You know, anyone that
says anything nice about him, right, he loves doesn't It
doesn't matter, it doesn't matter who it is. But you know, uh,
he yes exactly. I mean Trump has said you know,
(37:16):
very very recently, could have been today. I think about
giving him a couple of weeks to see where where
where he's going to be on this. And I don't
think that Couton is laughing at Trump. I don't think.
I think Trump is too scary to uh not take seriously.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Does he need a couple of weeks? I mean, what
is there to think about.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
I think that that's Trump being generous, hoping that his
his his old friend will uh uh you know, come
into the fold.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yes, going to happen, he's psycho, not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Yeah, it's so hard to read with they're just when
the cultures are so different, it's just so hard to
know what they believe. I mean, I mean, he's he's
obviously he's another megalomaniac like Trump is, right, But.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I don't think I shouldn't say. I don't think Trump
would just evade a country because he wants it. Now,
I know, I I hope, I know, I know. I
can't believe I've said that.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
You never know, you've heard how much he wants Canada
and Greenland?
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Right, Well, yeah, I understand that, yes, yeah, Well, wasn't
he going to take the Gaza strip and put up
a mall. Yes, that was another good one. Anyways, all right,
your show, let's talk about the podcast. Tell us all
about it.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Samilicide it is. And I don't know if your listeners
know that I created the show Intervention and although I
found so light and fluffy here, my bones have been
made in genre a very very dark material. And that
is crime, and that is addiction. And now it's murder
(39:22):
and Gary, I found this out when creating this show Familicide,
which is family on family murder, that it occurs once
every five days in this country.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Yes, we actually have this on. Had a woman from
Needham on this week, Susan whose sister was murdered and
they met in Boston and the husband covered it up
and made it look like an accidental death in the shower.
(39:57):
And they're called hidden homicides. They happen more often that
you want to think. But if you want to listen,
you can go to familia side dot net and scroll
at the bottom to find us on Apple and Spotify
and serious and iHeart, I mean really everywhere you listen
(40:19):
to podcasts, and each week we have people whose family
members have killed other family members. And it's some scary
stuff and it's more prevalent than you'd ever want to know,
but you will.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Do you think that there'll be a video version? I
know podcasts are very big right now. Or is the
podcast venue what you need?
Speaker 3 (40:49):
We're looking to turn it into TV absolutely because yeah, yeah,
I mean it will eventually become that. But in the
mean time, you get to listen to this very straight
documentary interview of someone with first person narrative. There's no
(41:09):
you know, cheesy narrator. It is very deep, very psychological.
And also we have experts on who give take home
advice to the audience if they see any kind of
behavior that mirrors what we see here on the show.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Oh my god, if I listen to that, I'd be
like I'll be I'll be walking around my house with
my back against the wall.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
No, sorry, once every five days, I know.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
I just and all the kids are home from college,
so it's a little tense. Uh, we gotta go, Sammy,
It's great. I love you, great to talk to you.
To check it out an iHeart We're an iHeart media station, right, yes,
iHeart check it out. Sam. We'll talk to you soon, Buddy.
Thanks for coming.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
On.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah, Yeah, we'll see it from Sam this great stuff.
I hope the video version comes out and he did
create Intervention, which has been a massive hit. Rob Brooks
doing a great job. We appreciate it. Marita Loroossa, thank
you for setting everything up. And Dan's going to be back.
The adult is back in the room tomorrow night, right
here at eight o'clock on WBZ. Would like to thank
(42:26):
our guests from tonight, our guests from last night again.
Congratulations to my guy Matt Dooley from winning the Division
one championship with Cornell for lacrosse, and thank you for
coming on the show. Thank you, Dan Shanason for being on.
Cooper Lawrence, my entertainment buddy from New York talking about
(42:47):
p Diddy and oh soo Kanye. Follow it, listen, follow
Cooper Lawrence on Instagram. That's what you got to do
social media and she's got you covered. She has a
different take on the whole a Kyle Hitler thing with Kanye,
and Kanye's got an angle, so check her out. You'll
get the details all right. Time for news, we gotta go, everybody.
(43:09):
Dan Ray back tomorrow night here on WBZ News Radio
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