December 15, 2025 • 40 mins
This past weekend, Australia and Brown University in RI suffered tragic attacks. This hour, Dan invited callers to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nice side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right, thanks very much, Dan Watkins, welcome back. A
little bit fuddled here because we're trying to talk about
this has been a tough weekend. Anybody who who's followed
the news, If you don't follow the news, you probably
don't realize that there was a massacre of people celebrating
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the first night of Hanukah near Sydney, Australia, at a
beach called the Bondi Beach. You have this guy still
roaming around I don't know, maybe he's not roaming around
Providence anymore, but he decided to take upon himself to
go in and kill two people who I don't know
if he knew or didn't know. There's no evidence that
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this was specifically intended or that it was necessarily random.
We don't know until we find out who this person
was and if he had any real and assuming I
believe it is a he had any relations relationships pastor
present with anyone in that room that he entered with
the gun firing. And in addition, of course, we have
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today the verdict that came in under Brian Walsh case.
So I don't want it to press you, but I'd
like to talk to you about this and the realization
that evil does exist. Evil exists in the world, and
it exists in our society, and it is amongst us.
I tried to use the argument last hour, and no
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one seemed to rise to the occasion that I believe
in the Bell curve of life, and anybody who has
been involved in education understands what the Bell curve means
is that there's in anything, there's a three percent of
people who are exceptionally good, three percent of people who
are exceptionally bad, and the other ninety four percent of
somewhere in the middle. Oh, there might be on a
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typical Bell curve a fourteen percent or so that are
pretty decent good people, and then there's fourteen percent of
the people out there who are corner cutters, and most
are in the middle just trying to get along. So
I am interested in hearing your thoughts on any of
all of these tragedies. Do you think how quickly do
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you think it would be for the Providence Police and
the state police were relilent to solve that problem. They
have not covered themselves in glory. In the first three days,
I watched that news conference this afternoon. It was aimless.
They were talking about new photographs, new videotape. I don't
think the videotape of the photographs. There's a couple of
shots of this guy's face covered up with a mask,
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but you can see his eyes that maybe there'll be
someone who recognized that's what happened to the you know,
Luigi Mangioni in New York, the killer of the United
Healthcare executive. That you look at what happened in Australia,
I mean, what cowards this father and on team with
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long guns and rifles just shooting at people on a
beach celebrating the first night of Hanukah. I mean, what
gives them that authority? You know, religious, political, personal in
any way, shape or form. The father, fifty year old
father's dead, His twenty six year olds or twenty four
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year old son is in custody. I have no idea
what the penal cold in Australia will hold in store,
but whatever it is, I hope at a minimum he
spends the rest of his life in prison. So I
am I just. I don't want to go to open
lines because it's a Monday night, but I'm prepared to
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give you as wide a swathe as possible. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
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i'll probably talk about that later this week. It was interesting.
I think I got it, but probably I. As with
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most movies, I didn't get all of it. So we'll
talk about that. And we have some other subject coming
up tomorrow night. We're supposed to talk with an expert
on bad customer relations. So we got a lot to
talk about. Let's start it off with Tina down in
Rhode Island. Tina, how are you doing? I know that
Rotskt is not Providence, but Rhode Island's a small state.
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I hope you're okay and you're safe and sound.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yes, I am, And as you know, living in Rhode Island,
it's a constant barrage of news and so I'm and
I'm just really, you know, quite overwhelmed with everything. But
my question, Dan is, and I mean it sincerely, what
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I don't and I understand that this person went into
Brown University in the engineering physics section and then he
came out somehow he got away. So my question is,
maybe it's a stupid question, but I have to ask it.
What I don't understand is is why I'm trying to
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formulate it. Why if he did what he wanted to
do and he escaped, we don't know if he's going
to get away with it or not, but he did
what he wanted to do, and I don't think he
wants to go shoot up anybody else. He just wants
to get away really fast, and wherever he is, he's
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going to try to do that. So I guess my
question is why is there so much here in the
community and other people that I know that he's going
to stop shooting up somebody else. That's my question.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I don't have an answer. I can take a shot
at it, pardon the pun. But whenever something this crazy
happens that has no rhyme or reason, I think most
of us personalize it, Tina and think, well, if it
happened to those students at Rhode Island, it might happen
in my neighborhood. This guy, probably, if he has the wherewithal,
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has tried to get as far away from Rhode Island
as possible. I have no clue to get into the
mind of this individual, but it's been over three days now,
so if he was able to catch a plane out
of Green Airport in Rhode Island, he could be anywhere
in the United States and can be anywhere in the
world at this point. To be reaas with you, he
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covered himself up pretty well. We don't know. It sounded
to me at that news conference that the Rhode Island authorities,
the political leaders, and the police department officials really were
at a loss. It sounded as if they that no
one had given them much to work with. We still
don't know the circumstances of why they focused on this
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guy at the hotel in Waverley, Rhode Island. I have
some suspicion Coventry, excuse me, thank you Coventry, Rhode Island,
but I have some suspicions at what might have happened.
But clearly they're not saying this guy is still a
person of interest. That his name was released, I'm going
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to choose not to share his name. But they were
pretty confident that they had the right yeah and then,
But good for them if all of a sudden they
realized they were going down the wrong road. I congratulate
the police officials for at least recognizing that. Now a
lot of time has been lost and probably some evidence
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may have been lost. This guy had himself pretty well
covered up. Why he was able to sort of walk
around again. I know it was a cold day, but
you would think that someone would have seen him, and
someone might have said to some police officer, there's this
dude walking around for a couple of hours in the area.
What's up with that? But again, you know, we were
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always taught if you see something suspicious, if you see something,
say something. Then if you say something and somehow you've
identified a person who wants to make a federal case
out of it, they'll say, well, you you identified me
because I was this, or I was because of because
I was that, and uh, it shows your bias against
people like me.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
And well, I know when I when I when I
saw the newest photos that came out today, when I
saw him, something said to me, because you see him
more clearly than when he was first leaving the university.
He just saw his backside when I saw them, I
think they're gonna catch him now. I can't explain him,
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but I think they're going to catch him now.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Remember it took him a few days to get BENZIONI
in that McDonald's, Uh in Pennsylvania. Was he in Altoona, Pennsylvania?
I think or somewhere like that. So hopefully hopefully this
guy will they'll they'll get the right guy and he'll
face he'll face justice. However that works. Out. Tina is
always thank you for your call. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Oh, okay, thanks for explaining it.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Well. I don't know if I explained it adequately, but
you asked really good questions and I thank you for
asking those. And by the way, Tina, there's no such
thing as a dumb question. That was a really good question,
a really good question that you asked.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Thank you, Oh, thank you, all right.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Good night, six one seven, two ten thirty six one,
seven thirty. I'm giving you a ye field to run
on here, folks, because frankly, it's a Monday night, it's cold,
and it was a down weekend. I had a great weekend,
I'll tell you. I was the MC of an event
with the writer William Martin, the great, great writer of
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h and he just he delivered a great presentation on
his newest book, December forty one. I have to call
Bill and get him to come in and beyond the
show and talk about his new book. He's written, you know,
Cape Cod Back Bay, uh Link, The Lincoln Letter, all
sorts of great great books. He's made his living as
a writer of historical fiction. And he was brilliant at
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the Clover Club the other night. He did a fabulous job.
Anyone who's in the audience, I'm sure really was happy
they were there. They are. We also had a really
good meal by the way, the food was great uh
at the Park Plaza Hotel. I have to I have
to mention that uh. Six one seven two thirty six
seven nine thirty. Feel free to join the conversation. Love
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to hear from you, particularly if you've never called my
show before. Tonime would be a great night to come through.
We can talk about this spate of violence here in
Rhode Island, close to home in Australia, themes that that
have have happened all too often over history. All of
that and again our cold weather. So feel free give
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us all coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
So we have to talk about the Brian Walsh verdict,
the Australian shooting and the Rhode Island shooting. We know
everything we need to know about the Australian shooting. It
was anti Semitism, uh, anti uh, anti Jewish hatred. That
is just it has blossomed so much UH and it
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has to be denounced. And obviously someone you know basically
shooting people at a beach, the Rhode Island shooting that
has to be denounced. No explanation could possibly justify what
was done. The guys, that coward. He's probably fled the
state at this point. We'll see. I mean, I hope
they find him, but let's keep rolling. He's going to
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go to Joe and Belmont.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Joe.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
It's a bad world out there this weekend.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
How are you good?
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Thank you Dan? Dan?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Uh Uh? I'll give me uh oh.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Joe, why don't you put your thoughts? You go ahead?
Speaker 6 (13:14):
What did Trump say about uh? Rob Reiner? That was
so bad?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
He said some stupid things. He said some absolutely stupid things.
I'm not even going to repeat them on the air
because they were juvenile. It was like that that somehow
Rob Reiner because he was a critic of Donald Trump.
I'll put it in some reasonable language. Uh was suffering
from Trump derangement syndrome and blah blah blah blah blah.
It was childish. Would be the would be the most
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that I could give it a compliment on.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
You know, I can't understand Trump. He does some great
things and he does many crazy stupid things. What's going
on in his life.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I have no idea. I mean, you would think that
having achieved the presidency not once but twice, he would
be grateful to have reached that state in life. So
many politicians of great achievement never have become president. And
for him to focus on a tragic family, it could
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happen within any family. A child who the parents love
has mental illness, and somehow that child turns into literally
a monster within the family. And apparently he killed both
his allegedly both his parents. I read a story that
his sister discovered the parent's body on the bodies on
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the floor, and that their throats have been slashed. I
don't know if that is accurate or not. But he's
alleged to have killed his own parents. I mean, that's
sort of a biblical crime that defies the very people
who gave him life. The very people who gave him life,
he decided to kill.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
University student. He could have hitched tike anyway down the
south of the Midwest. By now hitchhiking, well.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
He could have been somebody who has an ability to, uh,
you know, to with a with a credit card, get
on an airplane at Green International Airport and be anywhere
in the world. I mean, obviously he could hitchhike, but
there's other other modes of transportation that could get him,
you know, out of out of Rhode Island. Just doesn't
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make any sense, Joe. How someone can be that cruel
to people who he obviously did not know. I mean,
in Australia, the to the father and son that that's
tried to slaughter, the people at the honka ceremony on
Bondi Beach, they didn't know those people. They just hated
those people because they were different from them. This kid,
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I doubt if he was a Brown student. I doubt
if he had any relationship to Brown University, but there
was some motive that compelled him to go in and
do that.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
They trace the credit cards.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
If they knew who he was, they could trace the
credit cards. But they don't know who he is.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
And you have a merry Christmas, you and you loved one.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
You too, Joe. We'll talk soon. Okay, thanks buddy, appreciate.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
It, Thank you, by thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Uh, let me get one more in here before the
break at the bottom of the era, I got Phil
in Boston. Phil, you were next on nightside.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Go ahead, A couple of things I've been I've been
down that area in the university in Rhode Island. Did
they find out what kind of gun the guy used?
And I would think that someone would he'd have to
have some kind of knowledge of the school, because you
wouldn't think school be open on a Saturday. Maybe it's me,
but I mean it's a huge facility down there, all
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kinds of bill all.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Kinds those those schools are open. Those schools are open
on on weekends. They're they're getting close probably final exams
of this week, they're getting ready for the for the
semester break most schools now, you know break, so.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
He next next night. Thought, and I know you're you're
an athletic coming guy. I'm not a big athletic guy.
But you know, it's just the mea pickup in violence.
Start to mention the road raids, people throwing basketball to
each other, people doing it. I mean, it's it's like
it's not even enjoyable game anymore. To get a fistfight
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at the basketball game.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I mean, it's not everybody.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I think that's a little overstated. I mean, you know,
you're always going to have a little bit of pushing
and shoving in a hockey game. Uh uh. And there's
there's a lot of body contact in in basketball.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
And sometimes kind I mean you don't you.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Don't have much of that in sports like tennis and
golf because what's absent body contact. So if someone if
you're playing and someone takes what can they consider to
be a cheap shot at you, you might retaliate. That's
what happens in hockey. Also in football, look at yesterday
there was a couple of penalties that were offsetting penalties
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where there was a little bit of a pushing match
on the sideline. One of the Buffalo players he got
punched in the fit in the you know, in the
face mask, and Milano, the linebacker, who I think was
a BC kid, uh looked at the ref like, well,
what are you her to do about that? They threw
They threw flags on both of them, offsetting, so there's
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no penalty. It's they each got a free shot. But
I wouldn't worry about that. You know, most kids who
get involved in sports, those are the kids at the
end of the day, Phil who were tired and go
home and they're not out hanging around with street gangs.
But it's my thought, I'm a pretty pro sport.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Guy.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I think you you have kids work at school hard
and have them get involved in some sports sport, whether
it's you know, cross country or you know what they
call the carryover sports of tennis or golf where there
are more or team sports, and they they all had
their benefits in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
All right, guy, well.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
All right man, if I don't talk to you, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Okay, one more joint. Yeah, the person that grabbed one
of the guns out in Australia, Yes, you should be
giving some kind of reward. I mean, he saw a
lot of stuff from going on. He grabbed one of
the guns, right.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I saw that. Yeah, he, by the way, happens to
be Muslim. He happens to be Syrian. So uh, you
have the two guys who are out there yelling Ali akbar,
and you know, they're they're they're they're totally gone. And
this this guy who apparently was for what I read,
a fruit peddler, was simply observing what was going on,
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and he moved pretty quickly. He was a big guy,
but once he got his arms around him put him
in a bear hug. Not only did he knock him down,
but he took the gun away, and uh, yeah, he's
a hero. I would hope that there's something that the
Australian government. The Australian government has to also just crack
down on some of this anti Israeli protests and all
of that. They don't have the First Amendment like we
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do over here, but they need to get that a
little under control because that that that's viewing a lot
of hate to this. When you hear him yelling from
the river to the sea, you know what that means.
That is from the Jordan Mediterranean. See you later, Israel.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Himself.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, you got it.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
I didn't I like to enjoy this contest, the giant
against the little guy that with a sling shot. I mean,
it's just it's just crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
It's I'm with you. I'm with you, Phil. We'll talk
that great night, Okay. I get some wide open lines here,
which really upsets me. Six one seven, two five four
ten thirty six one seven, nine thirty. We talked on
Friday night at this hour about your favorite television show,
and we had a lot of calls and we had
great uh people over the weekend checking out nightside, undemand
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dot com, and I hope that the television show that
is my favorite show of the week, which is The
Tracker CBS at eight o'clock on Sunday nights. Hope some
of you, based upon that conversation might have dipped in
last night and followed that show. It was a it
was a pretty interesting performance. It's sort of a surprise
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ending continued next week. I'll be watching I'll be watching
it next week as well. So six, one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six one, seven, nine, three, ten thirty. Is
there any hope? Is there any hope that we can
get rid of the violence that just seems to be
everywhere everywhere? We're entering the Christmas season, and we have
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some guy who decides to spray a classroom at Brown University,
killing two and wounding seriously nine. We have a couple
of guys who'd taken upon themselves to fire rounds at
a Honka celebration in Australia, of all places. I'd like
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to say, what is this world's? What is this world
coming to? But I think we're already there and beyond,
you know, I think about the case today, the Brian
Walsh case. Divorce, you know, have a divorce, move on
with your life. Okay, there's nothing that that that can't
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be be taken care of in that way. You got
to kill somebody and then dismember them, strew their body
parts into dumpsters, trash bags and dumpsters, and you thought
you're going to get away with it.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Six six seven. Kind of a bad weekend. Not even
to mention the the Patriots lost to the Buffalo Bills.
There's also something which I want to mention which was
in the context of what we're talking about, and that
is the horrific event in Australia. We'll come back and
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we'll talk about that as well, coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w B Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
All right, let's keep rolling here. Phones are quiet tonight,
which always troubles me. I have no idea why people
are not interested in these Maybe you're worn out from
the weekend. I don't know. Uh, six four thirty six
one seven. If you're not outraged by what has happened
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at Brown and what happened in Australia, I think your
sense of outrage is a little too high. Let me
go to Tom in Dorchester. Hey, Tom, welcome, How are
you Hie?
Speaker 7 (23:39):
Dan, it's good to talk to you. I get some trouble.
I was going to talk about political Islam is not
compatible with our constitution. You should never put your hand
on the on the on the the oh jus the
kouran Is who are in they can't. You can't do
that because you're Michael married his honor on a kill.
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That's that's wrong. It should be only on the Bible.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, well, you know the problem. The problem with that
is we have you know, I don't think there's a
problem with it. But the problem with the argument Thom
is that you know, we have freedom of religion. And
although we are a clearly a Judeo Christian country, and
anyone who disputes that doesn't understand the history of the country.
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We do welcome other religions, peaceful religions, and there are
Islamic scholars who will tell you the religion is peaceful,
and they will look one of the guys that stopped
the shooting. There were two shooters in Australia, and did
you see the video of the guy who came up
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behind the guy and put him in a bear hug
and took the rifle away. He actually was a Muslim
himself and was Syrian.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
No, no, he didn't shoot, No, he did not. He
aimed the gun at the guy, which I'm sure was
to try to hold him where he was and and
have the police come and arrest him. But so there's
a guy who interceded and maybe maybe saved some Jewish lives.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
Yeah, but again, what I really want to talk about
is I agree with Trump. Robiner almost got him killed twice.
They wasn't for the grace of God, Trump would be gone.
And Trump's family, his kids are great. And Robiner, I
guess he was killed by his own son.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
His own son who apparently who apparently has all sorts
of you know, mental issues, apparently also spent a lot
of time as a drug addict. Uh and uh. Like
any other parent, I guess they would try to save
the son and I and they they were unable and
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it eventually cost them their own life. I thought that
the President's comments on Trump's social were just despicable. Tom.
I mean, no, well, you know, I don't believe in dancing.
I don't believe on dancing on someone's grave. There were
people who said some pretty nasty things about Charlie Kirk
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after he was assassinated in Utah. And they're in the
same uh category as Trump. I mean, you know, there's
there's just something that's unseemly about anyone saying something about
their worst enemy when the when their worst enemy dies. Uh.
And it's particularly when it when it's coming from the
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man who's elected president of the United States. That's all
I mean.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
You.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
You you can wallow in what he said. Tom. I'm
not going to persuade you. I know that, but I
want to make myself very clear to you and the
rest of the audience on it. That's all.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
Go ahead, your grace of God, Trump is alive. Now,
this this, what someone said was absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
What is Rob Reiner in your mind? How do you
let me ask you this? How do you make the connection?
Rob Reiner has been critical of Donald Trump to the
best of my knowledge. He was one of the few
people that I heard who clearly did not like virtually
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anything that Charlie Kirk said, and he condemned from the
get go violence of a political nature of any kind.
I don't know where you get that Reiner is somehow
responsible for what some twenty year old nut job Thomas
Cooks tried to do in Butler Pennsylvania.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Dan is still rhetoric. The whole Democratic body is. They
call him Hitler all the time. You've got to get
rid of Hitler. If aam's really Hitler, you have to
get rid of them. And then this rhetoric of these
these morons and these Ashley lunatics in a democratic body.
That's that's my problem.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Again, No, I understand, and it is. And I think
that I would share with you the absolute distaste and
disdain for people who, you know, call anyone a Hitler,
because it's pretty tough to come close to what Hitler did.
But put that aside for a moment. And I don't
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know that that Ryan. I don't know what the worst
thing was that Ryiner ever said about Donald Trump. But
I don't care what the worst thing that they might
have said about Donald Trump. Either the president should have
been silent and just not mentioned anything, or he should
have issued a statement to the effect that while I
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disagree with things he has said about me and what
things that he has said about my policies, my heart
goes out to the rest of his family for the
loss of a father and a mother to other children.
Apparently there are other children besides the guy who's allegedly
killed him. So we will agree to disagree in that one.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
Okay, I believe he said that.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Dan.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
I believe he said, yeah, it's just too bad. But
he But you want, I mean, if you want, I.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Mean, Tom, Look, if you want to hold on, I
will read it to you. If you don't believe that, okay,
I will read it to you right after the break.
You stay right there, and I'll read what he said
on Trump's social to you. Rebate him fair enough, Right,
stay right there. We're gonna come back to you right
after the break. I do have a couple of lines
only open at six one, seven thirty. I'm not even
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gonna give the second number because both those lines are
tied up. Six one, seven, two five, four ten thirty.
I will read the Trump comment on on Trump's Social
for all of you to hear and to evaluate. Right
after this.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
It's Night Side with Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Okay, we're gonna go back to Tom. Tom, let me
read you the president's post.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
You're ready.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Rob Ryder, a tortured and struggling but once very talented
movie produce director and comedy star, has passed away together
with his wife, Michelle, reportedly due to the anger he
caused others through his massive, unyielding and incurable affliction with
a mind crippling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome, sometimes
(30:23):
referred to as TDS. He was known to have driven
people crazy by his raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump,
with his obvious paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump
administration surpassed all goals and expectations of greatness and with
the Golden Age of America upon us, perhaps like never before.
He also wished they rest in peace. I mean, that
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was crass, ugly, and it was unworthy of a president
of the United States. Tom Well, it just shows that
it takes all kinds.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
As long as you don't make me walk the plague.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
No, don't you you want to express them. You expressed
the opinion as a gentleman tonight. I couldn't disagree with
you more. It's only people who are rude who get
to right walk the plank. Thank you, John, have a
great time. Good. I let me go to Jane and Everett. Geane,
you were next to Knightsager right ahead. Hi, Jan hygiene.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
So I just wanted to mention I think that sometimes
people don't call on certain subjects because it strikes fear
in them. It's it's it's such a horrific thing that
they can't deal with it.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Well, what of the subject? Let me ask you this, Jean,
here's my question as a talk show.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
I think it's a good subject.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
No, well, I think it's I think it's a it's
a subject you cannot we cannot ignore. I mean, if
tonight I said to myself, Okay, what what's your favorite color?
You know? Or uh? I mean people would laugh at me. This.
This is a serious subject. Virulent antisemitism, virulent anti semitism. Uh.
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And a guy we don't know what his motive was.
I mean, I have no idea what his motive could
have been, but obviously a deranged individual. And then we
have another guy who lived amongst us in cohas it
a very nice community, apparently in a nice home with
a wife with whom he had three children, and he
not only killed her, but he then dismembered her and
(32:27):
and spread her body parts. These are people who are
living every day. Get all I'm saying is, these are
people who are living amongst us and if we if
we ignore it, and I'm not being argumented, but let
me just finish. If I if I ignore this and
said today, you know, this is just too difficult to
talk about today because it will upset people. Why do
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we talk about Let's talk about the cold weather and
the nice things about wintertime we go skiing or ice skating.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
I'm not saying you shouldn't talk about it, but I'm
saying I think one of the reasons is that people
just can't deal with it.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
And maybe not so horrible.
Speaker 8 (33:08):
And another reason is sometimes people are saying, well, you know,
there's going to be another subject on that I really
want to call about, and so I'll lose my call
if I call.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Now.
Speaker 8 (33:21):
Some people do because I know you have such great
shows on that you have to pick your poison on
when you're going to call, because then you're block.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I know, I totally get it. The other thing, too,
is that we have covered the wallsh case, which is
a horrible case. I wish we didn't have to cover it,
but we want people to know what's going on, and
there are people out there who are these sick people.
I made the point of the Bell curve of life.
Three percent people are saints and three percent of the
people are just depraved and that's the world in which
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we live. And guess what, it's reality.
Speaker 8 (33:55):
I've earned my angel wingstand trust me.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Oh, I would put you in the in the category
of the saints.
Speaker 8 (34:00):
Geane, let me tell you I have earned my angel wings.
Trust me, you have no clue, but but listen. Okay,
So back to that the wash thing. The only thing
good that happened today was that he was found guilty
and he will go to jail and.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
He will stay. The only good thing that the rest
of his life.
Speaker 8 (34:17):
I hopefully will not hear the words dismembered and killed
and all that twenty four hours a day on the
news and on the radio and on the TV. I'm
so tired of it. Here in the whole thing. They
don't have to tell me anymore about the dismember I
don't want to hear that. Well, a man who kills
his wife and ye.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
His days and the spotlight are over. He is sitting
in a very dark or lying down. Hopefully I don't.
I can't imagine you can go to sleep knowing that
this is the rest of your life.
Speaker 8 (34:47):
Brian Walsh, and I hope he gets what's coming to him.
He's a creep and a half and that.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
He's I don't think he's likely to have a fun
time in prison. I don't think anyone has a fun
time in prison. But I think people who are child
molesters and wife abusers are considered the lowest of the
low in the working order.
Speaker 8 (35:07):
Thanks listen. I have to talk about the attack over
in Australia.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
You got to do it quickly because I got one
more call I want to get to.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
Okay, here's the thing I would like to hear from
some Muslims as to what they think happened to this
man and his son that made them turn this way
and do these horrible things. I know that this and
that and this and that. How you know people get
rid of this?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Maybe one of my topics tomorrow night. Maybe you just
gave me a topic for tomorrow night. Maybe I will
challenge my audience. I don't know how large it must
following I have in my audience, but oftentimes I can
challenge the audience and say, look, if you happen to
be non Jewish, particularly if you happen to be Muslim.
I don't think that most Christians are running around, you know,
(35:59):
throwing bombs or rockets or or firing machine guys, Jews.
We talked about it last week with Dave Friedman, who
just had finished a year on the Massachusetts Commission on
Combating Anti Semitism. So we talked about it last week,
and here we have another horrific example in another country.
I want to get one, Jeanjeane. I mentioned it a
(36:24):
minute ago to you. I'd like to get another caller in.
And if you don't mind, I think you've made a
lot of great points. But we'll talk again next week.
Speaker 8 (36:31):
Okay, yes, thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
If we don't talk, Merry Christmas, good night. Connor. Had
to fight for you a little bit here, but go
right ahead. And if Connor's not there, Rob, see if
Connor's there, Connor, you're there now? Rob, is Connor there? Okay?
Good Connor you are next on nightside. As I said,
(36:56):
I had to rest the phone from Jeane, who's a
really good caller. But want to get you some time.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
Go ahead, Thank you.
Speaker 9 (37:04):
I appreciate it. I was just gonna say, I completely
agree with you how unbelievably deplorable that was of Trump,
what you said about Rob Reiner. And you know, I
don't think it's right when like the SJW kind of
bleeding heart liberals when they'll refer to Trump is Hitler.
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Conservatives not right on that.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I mean, to compare anyone to Hitler is insane.
Speaker 9 (37:32):
Yes, yeah, absolutely, I do find it kind of hypocritical though.
Is that a big thing in the MAGA movement within
the Republican Party is they always they tend to mock
the you know, the very sensitive s j w's when
they say things like rhetoric or words can equate with violence,
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and that at their own convenience, you know, when the
words they don't like, you know, it's being thrown at
down I'm calling him a Nazi. Then you get like
what Tommy was saying about blaming Rob Reiner for what happened,
that blaming Trump almost time.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I mean, you know, as you know, Trump thinks that
people are so blind and in disliking him, uh and
his policies, and he's created this term Trump derangement syndrome.
Tom is kind of the opposite, and Tom calls and
I treated him politely, but I just think he's dead wrong.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
That that was beneath the office, It was beneath his
humanity to say that I mean, you know, if if
tomorrow morning, something happens to the President of Venezuela that's untoward,
and he is removed from from office, and maybe something
really bad happens to him. I don't think you dance
on someone's grave. I think that's I think you rise
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above that and you say, you know, what happened to him.
Uh is tragic for him and his family, but it
might free the Venezuelan people. You know, there's ways to
say it and say it smartly. And Donald Trump doesn't.
He always has to go into this third persons just
you know, but his followers, his followers are they never depart.
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Tom is a loyal follower. I mean, you know, I
could make the argument that Tom might have a blind
spot when it comes to anything that Donald Trump does,
but we'll let that go for another night. Connor, have
you called my show before? Is this your first time?
Speaker 9 (39:36):
No, I've called a couple of times before. We talked
about Dick Cheney recently.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Do me a favor and call more often. Okay, I need,
I need callers like yourself. I really do. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 9 (39:47):
Okay, my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
You have a great night, Rob Brooks, nice job, tonight
to the listeners, Thank you uh, to the folks who
chose to sit on their hands and didn't want to
talk about either the aug verdic or the anti Semitism
that we saw in Australia or the insanity that we
saw at Brown I don't understand you, but that's fine.
(40:12):
I think I'm going to pass on a postgame tonight,
so I will see you tomorrow four thirty in the
afternoon on Nightside pregame. I don't think this much that
I would want to say on tonight's postgame. To be
honest with you, I will thank Rob and thank Marita,
I thank those who did call, Thanks to those of
you who listened, and remind you that all dogs, all cats,
(40:32):
all pets go to heaven. That's my pal Charlie ray Is,
who passed fifteen years ago in February. That's what all
your pets are who had passed. They loved you and
you love them. I do believe you'll see them again.
Hope see gain tomorrow night on nights side. Stay warm, everybody.
We're going to get to some warmer weather later this week.
It's nice side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right, thanks very much, Dan Watkins, welcome back. A
little bit fuddled here because we're trying to talk about
this has been a tough weekend. Anybody who who's followed
the news, If you don't follow the news, you probably
don't realize that there was a massacre of people celebrating
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the first night of Hanukah near Sydney, Australia, at a
beach called the Bondi Beach. You have this guy still
roaming around I don't know, maybe he's not roaming around
Providence anymore, but he decided to take upon himself to
go in and kill two people who I don't know
if he knew or didn't know. There's no evidence that
(00:49):
this was specifically intended or that it was necessarily random.
We don't know until we find out who this person
was and if he had any real and assuming I
believe it is a he had any relations relationships pastor
present with anyone in that room that he entered with
the gun firing. And in addition, of course, we have
(01:14):
today the verdict that came in under Brian Walsh case.
So I don't want it to press you, but I'd
like to talk to you about this and the realization
that evil does exist. Evil exists in the world, and
it exists in our society, and it is amongst us.
I tried to use the argument last hour, and no
(01:34):
one seemed to rise to the occasion that I believe
in the Bell curve of life, and anybody who has
been involved in education understands what the Bell curve means
is that there's in anything, there's a three percent of
people who are exceptionally good, three percent of people who
are exceptionally bad, and the other ninety four percent of
somewhere in the middle. Oh, there might be on a
(01:55):
typical Bell curve a fourteen percent or so that are
pretty decent good people, and then there's fourteen percent of
the people out there who are corner cutters, and most
are in the middle just trying to get along. So
I am interested in hearing your thoughts on any of
all of these tragedies. Do you think how quickly do
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you think it would be for the Providence Police and
the state police were relilent to solve that problem. They
have not covered themselves in glory. In the first three days,
I watched that news conference this afternoon. It was aimless.
They were talking about new photographs, new videotape. I don't
think the videotape of the photographs. There's a couple of
shots of this guy's face covered up with a mask,
(02:39):
but you can see his eyes that maybe there'll be
someone who recognized that's what happened to the you know,
Luigi Mangioni in New York, the killer of the United
Healthcare executive. That you look at what happened in Australia,
I mean, what cowards this father and on team with
(03:00):
long guns and rifles just shooting at people on a
beach celebrating the first night of Hanukah. I mean, what
gives them that authority? You know, religious, political, personal in
any way, shape or form. The father, fifty year old
father's dead, His twenty six year olds or twenty four
(03:24):
year old son is in custody. I have no idea
what the penal cold in Australia will hold in store,
but whatever it is, I hope at a minimum he
spends the rest of his life in prison. So I
am I just. I don't want to go to open
lines because it's a Monday night, but I'm prepared to
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I think I got it, but probably I. As with
(05:11):
most movies, I didn't get all of it. So we'll
talk about that. And we have some other subject coming
up tomorrow night. We're supposed to talk with an expert
on bad customer relations. So we got a lot to
talk about. Let's start it off with Tina down in
Rhode Island. Tina, how are you doing? I know that
Rotskt is not Providence, but Rhode Island's a small state.
(05:32):
I hope you're okay and you're safe and sound.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yes, I am, And as you know, living in Rhode Island,
it's a constant barrage of news and so I'm and
I'm just really, you know, quite overwhelmed with everything. But
my question, Dan is, and I mean it sincerely, what
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I don't and I understand that this person went into
Brown University in the engineering physics section and then he
came out somehow he got away. So my question is,
maybe it's a stupid question, but I have to ask it.
What I don't understand is is why I'm trying to
(06:19):
formulate it. Why if he did what he wanted to
do and he escaped, we don't know if he's going
to get away with it or not, but he did
what he wanted to do, and I don't think he
wants to go shoot up anybody else. He just wants
to get away really fast, and wherever he is, he's
(06:42):
going to try to do that. So I guess my
question is why is there so much here in the
community and other people that I know that he's going
to stop shooting up somebody else. That's my question.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I don't have an answer. I can take a shot
at it, pardon the pun. But whenever something this crazy
happens that has no rhyme or reason, I think most
of us personalize it, Tina and think, well, if it
happened to those students at Rhode Island, it might happen
in my neighborhood. This guy, probably, if he has the wherewithal,
(07:18):
has tried to get as far away from Rhode Island
as possible. I have no clue to get into the
mind of this individual, but it's been over three days now,
so if he was able to catch a plane out
of Green Airport in Rhode Island, he could be anywhere
in the United States and can be anywhere in the
world at this point. To be reaas with you, he
(07:39):
covered himself up pretty well. We don't know. It sounded
to me at that news conference that the Rhode Island authorities,
the political leaders, and the police department officials really were
at a loss. It sounded as if they that no
one had given them much to work with. We still
don't know the circumstances of why they focused on this
(08:01):
guy at the hotel in Waverley, Rhode Island. I have
some suspicion Coventry, excuse me, thank you Coventry, Rhode Island,
but I have some suspicions at what might have happened.
But clearly they're not saying this guy is still a
person of interest. That his name was released, I'm going
(08:23):
to choose not to share his name. But they were
pretty confident that they had the right yeah and then,
But good for them if all of a sudden they
realized they were going down the wrong road. I congratulate
the police officials for at least recognizing that. Now a
lot of time has been lost and probably some evidence
(08:45):
may have been lost. This guy had himself pretty well
covered up. Why he was able to sort of walk
around again. I know it was a cold day, but
you would think that someone would have seen him, and
someone might have said to some police officer, there's this
dude walking around for a couple of hours in the area.
What's up with that? But again, you know, we were
(09:08):
always taught if you see something suspicious, if you see something,
say something. Then if you say something and somehow you've
identified a person who wants to make a federal case
out of it, they'll say, well, you you identified me
because I was this, or I was because of because
I was that, and uh, it shows your bias against
people like me.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
And well, I know when I when I when I
saw the newest photos that came out today, when I
saw him, something said to me, because you see him
more clearly than when he was first leaving the university.
He just saw his backside when I saw them, I
think they're gonna catch him now. I can't explain him,
(09:49):
but I think they're going to catch him now.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Remember it took him a few days to get BENZIONI
in that McDonald's, Uh in Pennsylvania. Was he in Altoona, Pennsylvania?
I think or somewhere like that. So hopefully hopefully this
guy will they'll they'll get the right guy and he'll
face he'll face justice. However that works. Out. Tina is
always thank you for your call. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Oh, okay, thanks for explaining it.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Well. I don't know if I explained it adequately, but
you asked really good questions and I thank you for
asking those. And by the way, Tina, there's no such
thing as a dumb question. That was a really good question,
a really good question that you asked.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Thank you, Oh, thank you, all right.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Good night, six one seven, two ten thirty six one,
seven thirty. I'm giving you a ye field to run
on here, folks, because frankly, it's a Monday night, it's cold,
and it was a down weekend. I had a great weekend,
I'll tell you. I was the MC of an event
with the writer William Martin, the great, great writer of
(10:53):
h and he just he delivered a great presentation on
his newest book, December forty one. I have to call
Bill and get him to come in and beyond the
show and talk about his new book. He's written, you know,
Cape Cod Back Bay, uh Link, The Lincoln Letter, all
sorts of great great books. He's made his living as
a writer of historical fiction. And he was brilliant at
(11:15):
the Clover Club the other night. He did a fabulous job.
Anyone who's in the audience, I'm sure really was happy
they were there. They are. We also had a really
good meal by the way, the food was great uh
at the Park Plaza Hotel. I have to I have
to mention that uh. Six one seven two thirty six
seven nine thirty. Feel free to join the conversation. Love
(11:35):
to hear from you, particularly if you've never called my
show before. Tonime would be a great night to come through.
We can talk about this spate of violence here in
Rhode Island, close to home in Australia, themes that that
have have happened all too often over history. All of
that and again our cold weather. So feel free give
(11:59):
us all coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
So we have to talk about the Brian Walsh verdict,
the Australian shooting and the Rhode Island shooting. We know
everything we need to know about the Australian shooting. It
was anti Semitism, uh, anti uh, anti Jewish hatred. That
is just it has blossomed so much UH and it
(12:30):
has to be denounced. And obviously someone you know basically
shooting people at a beach, the Rhode Island shooting that
has to be denounced. No explanation could possibly justify what
was done. The guys, that coward. He's probably fled the
state at this point. We'll see. I mean, I hope
they find him, but let's keep rolling. He's going to
(12:52):
go to Joe and Belmont.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Joe.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
It's a bad world out there this weekend.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
How are you good?
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Thank you Dan? Dan?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Uh Uh? I'll give me uh oh.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Joe, why don't you put your thoughts? You go ahead?
Speaker 6 (13:14):
What did Trump say about uh? Rob Reiner? That was
so bad?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
He said some stupid things. He said some absolutely stupid things.
I'm not even going to repeat them on the air
because they were juvenile. It was like that that somehow
Rob Reiner because he was a critic of Donald Trump.
I'll put it in some reasonable language. Uh was suffering
from Trump derangement syndrome and blah blah blah blah blah.
It was childish. Would be the would be the most
(13:40):
that I could give it a compliment on.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
You know, I can't understand Trump. He does some great
things and he does many crazy stupid things. What's going
on in his life.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I have no idea. I mean, you would think that
having achieved the presidency not once but twice, he would
be grateful to have reached that state in life. So
many politicians of great achievement never have become president. And
for him to focus on a tragic family, it could
(14:13):
happen within any family. A child who the parents love
has mental illness, and somehow that child turns into literally
a monster within the family. And apparently he killed both
his allegedly both his parents. I read a story that
his sister discovered the parent's body on the bodies on
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the floor, and that their throats have been slashed. I
don't know if that is accurate or not. But he's
alleged to have killed his own parents. I mean, that's
sort of a biblical crime that defies the very people
who gave him life. The very people who gave him life,
he decided to kill.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
University student. He could have hitched tike anyway down the
south of the Midwest. By now hitchhiking, well.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
He could have been somebody who has an ability to, uh,
you know, to with a with a credit card, get
on an airplane at Green International Airport and be anywhere
in the world. I mean, obviously he could hitchhike, but
there's other other modes of transportation that could get him,
you know, out of out of Rhode Island. Just doesn't
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make any sense, Joe. How someone can be that cruel
to people who he obviously did not know. I mean,
in Australia, the to the father and son that that's
tried to slaughter, the people at the honka ceremony on
Bondi Beach, they didn't know those people. They just hated
those people because they were different from them. This kid,
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I doubt if he was a Brown student. I doubt
if he had any relationship to Brown University, but there
was some motive that compelled him to go in and
do that.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
They trace the credit cards.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
If they knew who he was, they could trace the
credit cards. But they don't know who he is.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
And you have a merry Christmas, you and you loved one.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
You too, Joe. We'll talk soon. Okay, thanks buddy, appreciate.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
It, Thank you, by thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Uh, let me get one more in here before the
break at the bottom of the era, I got Phil
in Boston. Phil, you were next on nightside.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Go ahead, A couple of things I've been I've been
down that area in the university in Rhode Island. Did
they find out what kind of gun the guy used?
And I would think that someone would he'd have to
have some kind of knowledge of the school, because you
wouldn't think school be open on a Saturday. Maybe it's me,
but I mean it's a huge facility down there, all
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kinds of bill all.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Kinds those those schools are open. Those schools are open
on on weekends. They're they're getting close probably final exams
of this week, they're getting ready for the for the
semester break most schools now, you know break, so.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
He next next night. Thought, and I know you're you're
an athletic coming guy. I'm not a big athletic guy.
But you know, it's just the mea pickup in violence.
Start to mention the road raids, people throwing basketball to
each other, people doing it. I mean, it's it's like
it's not even enjoyable game anymore. To get a fistfight
(17:20):
at the basketball game.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I mean, it's not everybody.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I think that's a little overstated. I mean, you know,
you're always going to have a little bit of pushing
and shoving in a hockey game. Uh uh. And there's
there's a lot of body contact in in basketball.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
And sometimes kind I mean you don't you.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Don't have much of that in sports like tennis and
golf because what's absent body contact. So if someone if
you're playing and someone takes what can they consider to
be a cheap shot at you, you might retaliate. That's
what happens in hockey. Also in football, look at yesterday
there was a couple of penalties that were offsetting penalties
(17:59):
where there was a little bit of a pushing match
on the sideline. One of the Buffalo players he got
punched in the fit in the you know, in the
face mask, and Milano, the linebacker, who I think was
a BC kid, uh looked at the ref like, well,
what are you her to do about that? They threw
They threw flags on both of them, offsetting, so there's
(18:19):
no penalty. It's they each got a free shot. But
I wouldn't worry about that. You know, most kids who
get involved in sports, those are the kids at the
end of the day, Phil who were tired and go
home and they're not out hanging around with street gangs.
But it's my thought, I'm a pretty pro sport.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Guy.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I think you you have kids work at school hard
and have them get involved in some sports sport, whether
it's you know, cross country or you know what they
call the carryover sports of tennis or golf where there
are more or team sports, and they they all had
their benefits in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
All right, guy, well.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
All right man, if I don't talk to you, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Okay, one more joint. Yeah, the person that grabbed one
of the guns out in Australia, Yes, you should be
giving some kind of reward. I mean, he saw a
lot of stuff from going on. He grabbed one of
the guns, right.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I saw that. Yeah, he, by the way, happens to
be Muslim. He happens to be Syrian. So uh, you
have the two guys who are out there yelling Ali akbar,
and you know, they're they're they're they're totally gone. And
this this guy who apparently was for what I read,
a fruit peddler, was simply observing what was going on,
(19:34):
and he moved pretty quickly. He was a big guy,
but once he got his arms around him put him
in a bear hug. Not only did he knock him down,
but he took the gun away, and uh, yeah, he's
a hero. I would hope that there's something that the
Australian government. The Australian government has to also just crack
down on some of this anti Israeli protests and all
of that. They don't have the First Amendment like we
(19:56):
do over here, but they need to get that a
little under control because that that that's viewing a lot
of hate to this. When you hear him yelling from
the river to the sea, you know what that means.
That is from the Jordan Mediterranean. See you later, Israel.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Himself.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, you got it.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
I didn't I like to enjoy this contest, the giant
against the little guy that with a sling shot. I mean,
it's just it's just crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
It's I'm with you. I'm with you, Phil. We'll talk
that great night, Okay. I get some wide open lines here,
which really upsets me. Six one seven, two five four
ten thirty six one seven, nine thirty. We talked on
Friday night at this hour about your favorite television show,
and we had a lot of calls and we had
great uh people over the weekend checking out nightside, undemand
(20:53):
dot com, and I hope that the television show that
is my favorite show of the week, which is The
Tracker CBS at eight o'clock on Sunday nights. Hope some
of you, based upon that conversation might have dipped in
last night and followed that show. It was a it
was a pretty interesting performance. It's sort of a surprise
(21:14):
ending continued next week. I'll be watching I'll be watching
it next week as well. So six, one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six one, seven, nine, three, ten thirty. Is
there any hope? Is there any hope that we can
get rid of the violence that just seems to be
everywhere everywhere? We're entering the Christmas season, and we have
(21:36):
some guy who decides to spray a classroom at Brown University,
killing two and wounding seriously nine. We have a couple
of guys who'd taken upon themselves to fire rounds at
a Honka celebration in Australia, of all places. I'd like
(21:56):
to say, what is this world's? What is this world
coming to? But I think we're already there and beyond,
you know, I think about the case today, the Brian
Walsh case. Divorce, you know, have a divorce, move on
with your life. Okay, there's nothing that that that can't
(22:17):
be be taken care of in that way. You got
to kill somebody and then dismember them, strew their body
parts into dumpsters, trash bags and dumpsters, and you thought
you're going to get away with it.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Six six seven. Kind of a bad weekend. Not even
to mention the the Patriots lost to the Buffalo Bills.
There's also something which I want to mention which was
in the context of what we're talking about, and that
is the horrific event in Australia. We'll come back and
(22:56):
we'll talk about that as well, coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w B Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
All right, let's keep rolling here. Phones are quiet tonight,
which always troubles me. I have no idea why people
are not interested in these Maybe you're worn out from
the weekend. I don't know. Uh, six four thirty six
one seven. If you're not outraged by what has happened
(23:28):
at Brown and what happened in Australia, I think your
sense of outrage is a little too high. Let me
go to Tom in Dorchester. Hey, Tom, welcome, How are
you Hie?
Speaker 7 (23:39):
Dan, it's good to talk to you. I get some trouble.
I was going to talk about political Islam is not
compatible with our constitution. You should never put your hand
on the on the on the the oh jus the
kouran Is who are in they can't. You can't do
that because you're Michael married his honor on a kill.
(24:02):
That's that's wrong. It should be only on the Bible.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, well, you know the problem. The problem with that
is we have you know, I don't think there's a
problem with it. But the problem with the argument Thom
is that you know, we have freedom of religion. And
although we are a clearly a Judeo Christian country, and
anyone who disputes that doesn't understand the history of the country.
(24:26):
We do welcome other religions, peaceful religions, and there are
Islamic scholars who will tell you the religion is peaceful,
and they will look one of the guys that stopped
the shooting. There were two shooters in Australia, and did
you see the video of the guy who came up
(24:47):
behind the guy and put him in a bear hug
and took the rifle away. He actually was a Muslim
himself and was Syrian.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
No, no, he didn't shoot, No, he did not. He
aimed the gun at the guy, which I'm sure was
to try to hold him where he was and and
have the police come and arrest him. But so there's
a guy who interceded and maybe maybe saved some Jewish lives.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
Yeah, but again, what I really want to talk about
is I agree with Trump. Robiner almost got him killed twice.
They wasn't for the grace of God, Trump would be gone.
And Trump's family, his kids are great. And Robiner, I
guess he was killed by his own son.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
His own son who apparently who apparently has all sorts
of you know, mental issues, apparently also spent a lot
of time as a drug addict. Uh and uh. Like
any other parent, I guess they would try to save
the son and I and they they were unable and
(25:58):
it eventually cost them their own life. I thought that
the President's comments on Trump's social were just despicable. Tom.
I mean, no, well, you know, I don't believe in dancing.
I don't believe on dancing on someone's grave. There were
people who said some pretty nasty things about Charlie Kirk
(26:18):
after he was assassinated in Utah. And they're in the
same uh category as Trump. I mean, you know, there's
there's just something that's unseemly about anyone saying something about
their worst enemy when the when their worst enemy dies. Uh.
And it's particularly when it when it's coming from the
(26:38):
man who's elected president of the United States. That's all
I mean.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
You.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
You you can wallow in what he said. Tom. I'm
not going to persuade you. I know that, but I
want to make myself very clear to you and the
rest of the audience on it. That's all.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
Go ahead, your grace of God, Trump is alive. Now,
this this, what someone said was absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
What is Rob Reiner in your mind? How do you
let me ask you this? How do you make the connection?
Rob Reiner has been critical of Donald Trump to the
best of my knowledge. He was one of the few
people that I heard who clearly did not like virtually
(27:22):
anything that Charlie Kirk said, and he condemned from the
get go violence of a political nature of any kind.
I don't know where you get that Reiner is somehow
responsible for what some twenty year old nut job Thomas
Cooks tried to do in Butler Pennsylvania.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Dan is still rhetoric. The whole Democratic body is. They
call him Hitler all the time. You've got to get
rid of Hitler. If aam's really Hitler, you have to
get rid of them. And then this rhetoric of these
these morons and these Ashley lunatics in a democratic body.
That's that's my problem.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Again, No, I understand, and it is. And I think
that I would share with you the absolute distaste and
disdain for people who, you know, call anyone a Hitler,
because it's pretty tough to come close to what Hitler did.
But put that aside for a moment. And I don't
(28:21):
know that that Ryan. I don't know what the worst
thing was that Ryiner ever said about Donald Trump. But
I don't care what the worst thing that they might
have said about Donald Trump. Either the president should have
been silent and just not mentioned anything, or he should
have issued a statement to the effect that while I
(28:41):
disagree with things he has said about me and what
things that he has said about my policies, my heart
goes out to the rest of his family for the
loss of a father and a mother to other children.
Apparently there are other children besides the guy who's allegedly
killed him. So we will agree to disagree in that one.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
Okay, I believe he said that.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Dan.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
I believe he said, yeah, it's just too bad. But
he But you want, I mean, if you want, I.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Mean, Tom, Look, if you want to hold on, I
will read it to you. If you don't believe that, okay,
I will read it to you right after the break.
You stay right there, and I'll read what he said
on Trump's social to you. Rebate him fair enough, Right,
stay right there. We're gonna come back to you right
after the break. I do have a couple of lines
only open at six one, seven thirty. I'm not even
(29:36):
gonna give the second number because both those lines are
tied up. Six one, seven, two five, four ten thirty.
I will read the Trump comment on on Trump's Social
for all of you to hear and to evaluate. Right
after this.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
It's Night Side with Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Okay, we're gonna go back to Tom. Tom, let me
read you the president's post.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
You're ready.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Rob Ryder, a tortured and struggling but once very talented
movie produce director and comedy star, has passed away together
with his wife, Michelle, reportedly due to the anger he
caused others through his massive, unyielding and incurable affliction with
a mind crippling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome, sometimes
(30:23):
referred to as TDS. He was known to have driven
people crazy by his raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump,
with his obvious paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump
administration surpassed all goals and expectations of greatness and with
the Golden Age of America upon us, perhaps like never before.
He also wished they rest in peace. I mean, that
(30:45):
was crass, ugly, and it was unworthy of a president
of the United States. Tom Well, it just shows that
it takes all kinds.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
As long as you don't make me walk the plague.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
No, don't you you want to express them. You expressed
the opinion as a gentleman tonight. I couldn't disagree with
you more. It's only people who are rude who get
to right walk the plank. Thank you, John, have a
great time. Good. I let me go to Jane and Everett. Geane,
you were next to Knightsager right ahead. Hi, Jan hygiene.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
So I just wanted to mention I think that sometimes
people don't call on certain subjects because it strikes fear
in them. It's it's it's such a horrific thing that
they can't deal with it.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Well, what of the subject? Let me ask you this, Jean,
here's my question as a talk show.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
I think it's a good subject.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
No, well, I think it's I think it's a it's
a subject you cannot we cannot ignore. I mean, if
tonight I said to myself, Okay, what what's your favorite color?
You know? Or uh? I mean people would laugh at me. This.
This is a serious subject. Virulent antisemitism, virulent anti semitism. Uh.
(32:06):
And a guy we don't know what his motive was.
I mean, I have no idea what his motive could
have been, but obviously a deranged individual. And then we
have another guy who lived amongst us in cohas it
a very nice community, apparently in a nice home with
a wife with whom he had three children, and he
not only killed her, but he then dismembered her and
(32:27):
and spread her body parts. These are people who are
living every day. Get all I'm saying is, these are
people who are living amongst us and if we if
we ignore it, and I'm not being argumented, but let
me just finish. If I if I ignore this and
said today, you know, this is just too difficult to
talk about today because it will upset people. Why do
(32:49):
we talk about Let's talk about the cold weather and
the nice things about wintertime we go skiing or ice skating.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
I'm not saying you shouldn't talk about it, but I'm
saying I think one of the reasons is that people
just can't deal with it.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
And maybe not so horrible.
Speaker 8 (33:08):
And another reason is sometimes people are saying, well, you know,
there's going to be another subject on that I really
want to call about, and so I'll lose my call
if I call.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Now.
Speaker 8 (33:21):
Some people do because I know you have such great
shows on that you have to pick your poison on
when you're going to call, because then you're block.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I know, I totally get it. The other thing, too,
is that we have covered the wallsh case, which is
a horrible case. I wish we didn't have to cover it,
but we want people to know what's going on, and
there are people out there who are these sick people.
I made the point of the Bell curve of life.
Three percent people are saints and three percent of the
people are just depraved and that's the world in which
(33:54):
we live. And guess what, it's reality.
Speaker 8 (33:55):
I've earned my angel wingstand trust me.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Oh, I would put you in the in the category
of the saints.
Speaker 8 (34:00):
Geane, let me tell you I have earned my angel wings.
Trust me, you have no clue, but but listen. Okay,
So back to that the wash thing. The only thing
good that happened today was that he was found guilty
and he will go to jail and.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
He will stay. The only good thing that the rest
of his life.
Speaker 8 (34:17):
I hopefully will not hear the words dismembered and killed
and all that twenty four hours a day on the
news and on the radio and on the TV. I'm
so tired of it. Here in the whole thing. They
don't have to tell me anymore about the dismember I
don't want to hear that. Well, a man who kills
his wife and ye.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
His days and the spotlight are over. He is sitting
in a very dark or lying down. Hopefully I don't.
I can't imagine you can go to sleep knowing that
this is the rest of your life.
Speaker 8 (34:47):
Brian Walsh, and I hope he gets what's coming to him.
He's a creep and a half and that.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
He's I don't think he's likely to have a fun
time in prison. I don't think anyone has a fun
time in prison. But I think people who are child
molesters and wife abusers are considered the lowest of the
low in the working order.
Speaker 8 (35:07):
Thanks listen. I have to talk about the attack over
in Australia.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
You got to do it quickly because I got one
more call I want to get to.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
Okay, here's the thing I would like to hear from
some Muslims as to what they think happened to this
man and his son that made them turn this way
and do these horrible things. I know that this and
that and this and that. How you know people get
rid of this?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Maybe one of my topics tomorrow night. Maybe you just
gave me a topic for tomorrow night. Maybe I will
challenge my audience. I don't know how large it must
following I have in my audience, but oftentimes I can
challenge the audience and say, look, if you happen to
be non Jewish, particularly if you happen to be Muslim.
I don't think that most Christians are running around, you know,
(35:59):
throwing bombs or rockets or or firing machine guys, Jews.
We talked about it last week with Dave Friedman, who
just had finished a year on the Massachusetts Commission on
Combating Anti Semitism. So we talked about it last week,
and here we have another horrific example in another country.
I want to get one, Jeanjeane. I mentioned it a
(36:24):
minute ago to you. I'd like to get another caller in.
And if you don't mind, I think you've made a
lot of great points. But we'll talk again next week.
Speaker 8 (36:31):
Okay, yes, thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
If we don't talk, Merry Christmas, good night. Connor. Had
to fight for you a little bit here, but go
right ahead. And if Connor's not there, Rob, see if
Connor's there, Connor, you're there now? Rob, is Connor there? Okay?
Good Connor you are next on nightside. As I said,
(36:56):
I had to rest the phone from Jeane, who's a
really good caller. But want to get you some time.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
Go ahead, Thank you.
Speaker 9 (37:04):
I appreciate it. I was just gonna say, I completely
agree with you how unbelievably deplorable that was of Trump,
what you said about Rob Reiner. And you know, I
don't think it's right when like the SJW kind of
bleeding heart liberals when they'll refer to Trump is Hitler.
(37:25):
Conservatives not right on that.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I mean, to compare anyone to Hitler is insane.
Speaker 9 (37:32):
Yes, yeah, absolutely, I do find it kind of hypocritical though.
Is that a big thing in the MAGA movement within
the Republican Party is they always they tend to mock
the you know, the very sensitive s j w's when
they say things like rhetoric or words can equate with violence,
(37:54):
and that at their own convenience, you know, when the
words they don't like, you know, it's being thrown at
down I'm calling him a Nazi. Then you get like
what Tommy was saying about blaming Rob Reiner for what happened,
that blaming Trump almost time.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I mean, you know, as you know, Trump thinks that
people are so blind and in disliking him, uh and
his policies, and he's created this term Trump derangement syndrome.
Tom is kind of the opposite, and Tom calls and
I treated him politely, but I just think he's dead wrong.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
That that was beneath the office, It was beneath his
humanity to say that I mean, you know, if if
tomorrow morning, something happens to the President of Venezuela that's untoward,
and he is removed from from office, and maybe something
really bad happens to him. I don't think you dance
on someone's grave. I think that's I think you rise
(38:55):
above that and you say, you know, what happened to him.
Uh is tragic for him and his family, but it
might free the Venezuelan people. You know, there's ways to
say it and say it smartly. And Donald Trump doesn't.
He always has to go into this third persons just
you know, but his followers, his followers are they never depart.
(39:19):
Tom is a loyal follower. I mean, you know, I
could make the argument that Tom might have a blind
spot when it comes to anything that Donald Trump does,
but we'll let that go for another night. Connor, have
you called my show before? Is this your first time?
Speaker 9 (39:36):
No, I've called a couple of times before. We talked
about Dick Cheney recently.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Do me a favor and call more often. Okay, I need,
I need callers like yourself. I really do. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 9 (39:47):
Okay, my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
You have a great night, Rob Brooks, nice job, tonight
to the listeners, Thank you uh, to the folks who
chose to sit on their hands and didn't want to
talk about either the aug verdic or the anti Semitism
that we saw in Australia or the insanity that we
saw at Brown I don't understand you, but that's fine.
(40:12):
I think I'm going to pass on a postgame tonight,
so I will see you tomorrow four thirty in the
afternoon on Nightside pregame. I don't think this much that
I would want to say on tonight's postgame. To be
honest with you, I will thank Rob and thank Marita,
I thank those who did call, Thanks to those of
you who listened, and remind you that all dogs, all cats,
(40:32):
all pets go to heaven. That's my pal Charlie ray Is,
who passed fifteen years ago in February. That's what all
your pets are who had passed. They loved you and
you love them. I do believe you'll see them again.
Hope see gain tomorrow night on nights side. Stay warm, everybody.
We're going to get to some warmer weather later this week.
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