January 6, 2026 • 41 mins
Bradley Jay Filled in On NightSide
Have you ever had an experience with a rideshare service that went awry? How about a vacation or trip that went off the rails, and you were out of some money you spent? Bradley shared some travel stories of his own & heard some from the listeners!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBS Boston's Me Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Ourban lines now fairly open. We were talking about vaccines
and since the flu is really serious now and very prevalent,
might be a good productive thing to talk about. And
I was comparing the Denmark program vaccination program with the
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US one. But I really want to know where you're
at on the vaccines. Have you were you a an
anti vaccin that's changed, or where you went to vaccines
before and then decided against it. Now I have Margie
and the Catskills. Hello Margie.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
While I was waiting, I just thought of a disease
that my daughter had when she was little, and all
her friends had. And I think you might be too
young for this, but it was the I certainly heard.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Of the croup. It's a cough that babies get. Right.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
No, they were like they could be in grade school.
But I'll tell you it was the most frightening thing
ever and it seemed to be the only cure in
that day.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
And they whooped.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
It was like ooping off the croup. And you would
take them into the bathroom, shut the door, turn the
shower on full blast, so the whole bathroom was full
of steam and then the child could breathe. It was
the most frightening thing.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Wow, I remember back in the day. I know we're
just talking about back in the day memories of diseases.
I had measles, and I had everything. But I remember
one time I had to get in the tub with
it like oatmeal.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yes, yes, what was that for?
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
You had a tremendous rash. The measles was the worst
rash because it left scars. But chicken pox, that's the
one you usually got in the tub with the oat meal.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
That's Does that make me old? Kind of?
Speaker 6 (02:07):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Well, I'll just give you. I mean, I cannot tell
you how important it is to have vaccines, especially that
RSV if you have any lung or heart problems. Very important.
But I just want to mention something that an earlier
person went through, and I'll give you a quick list
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of my childhood. I had, of course, measles, chicken pox,
hooping cough, the whole thing. I had a broken leg,
both bones in my legs, screws put in. I had
a ruptured appendix. It ruptured for three days before I
knew it. So I had pyridonitis and blood poisoning. I
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had open heart surgery where they took it, took an
oscillating saw and open you up. And then I had shingles,
which are those? Do you think was the most painful? Yes,
I swear I would have taken If there was a river,
I would have jumped in it. It was exactly like
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someone had taken a boiling kettle of water and poured
it over my back. And there's no relief for it's
there's nothing they can give you that'll stop it. So
I ended up going to the baby section where they
sell an oxide for diaper rash, that white oxide that
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lifeguards put on their noses and that sort of help.
But there is nothing that touches shingles with any other pain.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Wow. So Doug, Doug's in air, he had shingles and
he still wouldn't get vaccinated. He really doesn't like the vaccinations.
I'll tell you about Doug. He's all or nothing guy's
when he's into something, he's all the way in to KETO,
to to CBD too. His uh, the deep Christian religion
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that he formed that he believes in, he's all in on.
He's all in on anti vaccine too. He seems that
you would suffer, suffer very much and rather than take
a vaccination.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Well that's fine for him. And his experience with shingles
was not mine. I had a friend that had it.
It was very light. It was a totally different experience.
Mine was like my waist was encircled with burning blisters.
I mean I cannot. I mean it was just beyond
any pain. With open heart surgery, everything Rupter Appendix, nothing
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came close to shingles. So please, if you can get
a vaccine, I just urged people to do that.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So before you go. You made a big point of saying,
get the RSV vaccine.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Why because I have heart failure and pulmonary lung disease.
Definitely for these people.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, do you smoke?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Ah, I gave it up many many years ago when
it was sixty five cents a pack.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well, thanks so much, Margie and the cats Skills. It's
pleasure to speak to you as always.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Thank you, of course.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And now we got a regular crew on next we
have first Jeff in Abington. Hello, Jeff, Hello, Yes, we
have a little more time now, so you can go ahead.
And before you wanted to talk about Anthony Fauci.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Well, I think that's a lot of reason why people
don't want get vaccines. They don't trust the medical community.
And he was in charge of everything, and everybody just
first the darctors would just go along with anything he said.
In ninety of things he said were wrong. So what
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that's why the medical community it's going to take generations
to get the trust back from the people ruined the
He ruined.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
The trust he did all by himself. Wow.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
So no, the doctors following like sheep, never questioning him
because they were in fear of him.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Why would they.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
Be in fear of him, because you would cut off
the money. They would lose their jobs if they went
to iv a mechtin or other other cures for the
CONTI right.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I see, okay, I do remember he The first thing
I remember he was wrong about was masks. I thought
at first he said don't wear a mask, and then
he said do wear a mask or the other way around.
There was something he was he changed his mind on masks.
That was funny. I don't I don't know why.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Well, I'll tell you why. Because he said, if you
wear a mask, you'll be touching your face a lot.
Then he said don't wear a mask because you touching
your faith. Then he said we're a mask. Then he
said we're too masks. The guy was all over the place. Okay,
And he was not a good guy either.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
He was a bad guy in addition to being wrong.
How was he bad?
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Well? Have you ever read what he did in the
eighties with the aides?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
No, and tell me what is your source?
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Robert S. Kennedy's book?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Oh, okay, did you ever read it? No?
Speaker 6 (07:37):
But go ahead, I recommend it to you.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
He held experiments on offen children. It's never talked about,
but it's all documented.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
All right, all right? If I cannot confirm nor deny that,
you say that it's an rfk's book.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
Yes, And I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I actually don't know what to think about RFK because
he is now actively Okay, wait, let me finish my sentence, Jeph.
He is actively. He's telling people that lime disease is
real and he wants to see lime disease research and
treatment worked on. And I'm a big fan of that,
I will say, But on other things, Uh, you know,
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I don't know. How do you feel about the chlorine thing?
Chlorine in the water.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Me floor right in the water.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Oh yeah, sorry, yeah, he wants.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
To take it out of the water.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 6 (08:37):
I really don't care either word?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
All right, I mean fair enough. Tell me what else
is in the book, the RFK book that you read.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Okay, you won't cut me off.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
It depends on if you're You cut.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Me off twice three times?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
No, that's not true.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
How come we come me off?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
The first time you hung up on yourself or something.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Then the other time we had limited time and you
started to go off course and I didn't Anthony Faulchier.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
That's all I say. Was Anthony Fauci. Bang I hear it?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Okay, let's not argue about that. Tell me what was
inn Rfk's book?
Speaker 6 (09:24):
He did experiments on often children in New York City.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
He told me that anything else is interesting in the book,
there must be.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
He talks about foulchi are we He did not want
to go to Vietnam. He stayed out of That's why
he didn't go to Vietnam as a doctor.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Was there anything about in there that was not about Fauci?
Speaker 6 (09:51):
No, it was all about Foch.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
He did a whole I didn't know that I'd have
to read this book.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
What's the name of the book, the real Anthony Faulchi.
You never heard of book?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
No, I apologize. I can't know everything.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Man, do you ever hear a dance sickles?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
No.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
He was the first guy to have a defense not
guilty by reaving a reason of insanity.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Well, tell me the story. I mean, that's a little
off track, but well this was.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
I'm a very well educated man. I can talk on
different subjects. Really sure, Okay, he killed the grandson of
Francis Scott.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
You know what I sensed that. I sense a fizzling
out here. We should keep it on the topic. Anything
else on healthcare in the In the.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
He was the first man claim not guilty.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I'm going to say goodbye now because that is off topic.
It's not hanging up on you. It's thank you very much.
You're awesome and well educated, and I look forward to
our next call.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
But I don't hang up on me.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I don't know. If I had to describe Jeff to someone,
I don't know what I would say. Let's take a
break on WBZ, It's.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Night Side with Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Hello, my friends, Welcome, tonight's side, Brady Jay and for
Dan tonight, glad to have you with us. We have
let's see, we have Robert and Tom and Rick. We'll
go to Robert and Bill Rick the first Hello Robert.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
He everybuddy, How are ya? I be near you?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
You too?
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Yeah? So yeah, you know, the topic is great because
I don't take vax and not, but not because of Foshy.
You know, I don't think that that's where it start.
It start with, you know, every time become money driven.
You know, there's a lot of people heard all the
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American greed, the doctors doing this, and he had the
pandemic up. People taking those pills. I'll see Cota and
so you really, people is not trusting the medical feel
and I think that's what it is. It's not doctor
Frauci that you know, because we had a president told
us to drink kroogs. You know. So the thing is, I, well,
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it's funny the lady I talked before him, she mentioned, yeah,
I had chicken pox. I never had the other one,
but three months ago I ended up with shingles. And
I remember because I don't take vaccine, and my lady
kept saying go ahead and serious will you get your medication,
take the you know, take the shingle shots. She took it.
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I didn't want to take it and then and I
don't I remember in twenty eleven, twelve, I take the
flu shot and then I got sick, and I never
take it since then. And I've been doing fine because
the only thing I think I've been doing for since then,
it's taking my vitamin DC, uh, you know, magnesium, and
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I think I'm doing well. I haven't been sick like
I used to.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
So you did that.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
First of all, you did get stings. Did you get
a lot of pain?
Speaker 7 (13:17):
No, it's funny that she mentioned that. I didn't realize that,
like she said. But I was lucky because when I
went to the hospital and they said, well, it's on
the left side of your back and the left side
of your uh, you know, my stomach. So it wasn't
all over, but it was like painful, but it wasn't
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that much painful. But when I went to the doctor,
like she said, they said, it could have been a
lot worse. So I was lucky enough. And they didn't
give me a shot. They just give me a prescription
and they give me So why didn't you want to
take that shot because I just don't believe in the
farm musical people anymore. It's just like.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Because you don't trust the medical community.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Yeah, I don't trust the doctors and stuff. Yeah. Yeah,
because I got a primary doctor. As long as I
do my routine blood work, my cholesterol, my blood pressure.
He asked the doctor about the vaccines, Yeah, I asked,
But well, the thing, I don't trust the doctors. Like
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it's like I don't trust them for everything, but I
don't trust them because they always going to push the
flu that I mean, the shot for the flu and
the shot for whatever, because it's it's part of the
pharmaceutical you know game. To me, that story, I do that.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Do they make money when the pharmaceutical people make money?
Speaker 7 (14:50):
Yeah, because you know, like you know, if you heard
like how much money there is in that field.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yes, there's a lot of money in field. But do doctor,
is it your understanding that doctors somehow make money? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (15:06):
They get they get kickbacks. Yeah, they get kicked keep
skickbacks and pushing things because it's just like they telling you.
You see the doctor that driving in Lamborghini, he has
so much operation when he didn't have to do it
and then you find out like you know, you have
a kid, and then you really didn't need the C section,
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But that's costs more money. So it becomes a vulture
of capitalism, and that's what the country become. So now
people make sure that they really you know, they people
are paying more attention to what they want to do
because it's all about money.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So this must be a difficult situation for you because
you since you don't trust your doctor at all, you
don't know what to do, and the doctor tells you
to get an operation, you don't know whether to believe
the doctor or not.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
Right, that's true. Yeah, I have to be in pain,
and I have to be I really, I have no choice. Yeah,
for me to do it like you know, I do
cool on hoscopy, you know, I'll do the routine thing.
But for me to uh, you know, take shots and
and I just don't trust, I don't trust.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be stressful to not trust
at all, to trust the medical community at all. It
must be stressed.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Yeah, it is. It is because I was ruining myself
because they put me in two pails for my blood pressure,
one for you know, it's a water pail and the
other one different. And I skipped many times, you know,
because because I asked them. I asked my doctor one time,
I said, what's this cause? What dis cause?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
What this cause?
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Because somebody was telling me he put down your libertals,
there's this spill. And I said to the doctor, come,
you didn't tell me that. And then and then you said, well,
you know, and then I asked about I was going
to when my mom died, I was going to very
difficult time, and prescribed me a depression pill. And then
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I take you know, they don't they don't educate you
what it caused.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
That's why I appreciate that, Robert. I have other folks
that need to chat, but thank you so much. You know,
one thing one beef I have in the medical community
is they're afraid to tell you when you're overweight. There's
so many diseases that would ease up if you lost weight.
They're afraid to tell you because of political correctness. You
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know that's a fact. I mean, I don't know if
it's a fact. I truly believe they don't tell you.
They're afraid to tell you, Hey, you're obese, you got
to lose weight. They don't say that. The reason I
say they don't say that is because they didn't say
it to me. Really, I was two hundred and nine
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pounds I was supposed to be one sixty five, so
I was overweight. I have since lost weight. The doctor's
never said lose weight. Instead, they would, you know, say
you need to take this pill or that pill. They
didn't say lose weight. If we all lost weight and
it's hard, it's hard work. I'm doing it now, I'm
always doing it. There's so many pills you wouldn't have
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to take. You'd be so much healthier. Do you think
they do you think? And I don't want to feed
into the conspiracy, but how many of you believe that
the reason they don't tell you that you're overweight rather
than issue medication is that they want you to spend
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money on medication or do you think it's because it's
politically incorrect to say, Hey, you overweight and we're in
this situation. We're supposed to celebrate yourself as you are,
but that's not okay. If the way you are is unhealthy,
I would think it would be their job to either
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cure you or prevent illness. In the most natural way possible,
And I would think it would be all doctor's duty
to first tell you gotta change your lifestyle. Don't come
back and see me until you've lost twenty pounds. I
don't know they should really drill down on that, and
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I think they should be able to write prescriptions for
the gym actually, and the churance should pay and they
should be more millincant about you losing weight. Right after
the break, we're going to talk to Rick and Tom
on WBZ.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Leave you Dan next to Tom North, Carolina. Tom, Hello, sir, Hello,
how are you?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Well enough?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Okay. I'm a believer in vaccines. I have taken many vaccines,
not had much problem with many of them, no severe reactions.
Of course, I'm seventy two. So I saw what polio
did to people when I was very young, and we
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were all glad to get the vaccine then, and it
was applied on a sugar cube, so there were no injections,
and I can remember lines of people I was just
a small child, then lines of people walking into school
gymnasiums receiving the sugar cube out of a tiny paper cup,
putting it on your tongue, showing your tongue to a
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person at the door as you exited to make sure
you'd taken it. And we were all eager to get it.
And now it seems so many people have not lived
with these diseases that they think that we don't need
them anymore. But I think that's a fallacy. When you
have influenza, and you have it repeatedly, you know about
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every time you have it, your lungs don't function as
well afterwards, and you're coughing and all that, and you
finally recover, but then down the road you get it
many many times. You subject yourself more to these complications
of the heart, complications of the lungs. So we get
to be a very old person, you have emphysema or
or something like that, which is horrible to die from.
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And so to avoid all this, I'd much rather have vaccines.
And as you said, something about masks, and would wearing
masks help keep the numbers of viruses down from getting
into you? And I've seen studies online where two persons
wearing a mask talking to each other would vastly reduce
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the amount of inoculum that would go back and forth
the viruses, and you know, we did social distancing at
six feet and all that. I saw many people weren't
wearing masks, and they were or they were wearing masks
sometimes and they would converse for thirty forty minutes together
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in a supermarket just because they met each other, hadn't
seen each other in a while, and they would be
only four or five feet from each other, not really
taking full advantage of what was recommended. And what's more,
if you remember, it was one season there where everybody
was recommended to wear masks and suddenly there was a
very little flu. Even though the mask wearing was supposed
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to curb the spread of cobed covid virus, it also
had a great detriment in spreading the flu. So we
had a very light flu season that way. That season
in Asia. You go to Asia, and people wear masks
all the time if they feel even the slightest bit
sick or if they want to avoid sickness, and it's
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real commonplace.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I hear you, I'm going to start wearing mask on
the crowded subway. I'm going on a trip and I
don't want to get the flu just before the trip.
That would be a bummer.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Yeah. An N ninety five mask, if you can get
one of those, is proven, you know, by research, to
be a better than just the standard surgical mask. That's
why Anthony Fauci was suggesting people wear two masks, because
they were learning through a lot of research that the
standard surgical mask, especially when worn incorrectly the way many
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people wear them, it doesn't do you much good. But
an N ninety five mask, which you can purchase in
stores and hardware stores and things like that, like the
big box stores and stuff, they tend to be more
effective than and maybe even a little bit more comfortable
than the standard surgical mask.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Right. You're right about people not wearing it properly. They
just put it over their mouths, right, or they just
keep it under their chin. Have you heard a mask
referred to as a chin diaper? I think that's funny
and very accurate. Yes, walking around the mask on their chin.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Yeah, or or putting it over on their mouths only
and letting their nose stick out. And that's not effective either. Uh.
I looked through microscopes as a child. I looked at
through microscopes in high school. And college. And I never
had a microscope, you know, powerful enough to see viruses.
But I saw plenty of bacterias, lots of phoco spores.
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I was a county agricultural agent with a master's degree
in horticulture with a minor and plant mythology, so I
was educated about plant diseases. Sometimes people said I was
like a doctor of plants, and uh. And they get
viruses too, and they get bacterial diseases, and they have
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fungal diseases and nematodes and various things like that. And
all these are very tiny, and most people who've never
been exposed to looking at them don't realize they're present.
But there's a very good book by Paul Dekruff, first
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published in nineteen twenty six and reprinted nineteen fifty three,
and it reads like a novel, and it's a description
of how our history developed. You can read on Wikipedia
about it. That's Microbe Hunters is the name of the book,
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and it describes all about how people developed the current vaccines,
including people like the man who invented the Petri dish,
for whom the Petri dish is named for. I think
his first name was Julius Petrie, and he was an
employee of Robert Koch, who was a German who was
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lived at the same time as Louis Pasteur and from
whom we get the word pasteurization. And I think it's
a great failing that general society does not learn the
history of these people and these developments like Lewis, or
like John Edward Jenner, the first person who developed a
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cow pox vaccine that kept smallpox away. And then you know,
I had a smallpox vacations or inoculation scratched into my
arm as a child, and smallpox completely went away. We
haven't had a case of it worldwide since nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
Only yep.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I understand your point. I probably shouldn't let else someone
else in, but I really appreciate your.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
I'll be glad to let you go, but thank you
very much for letting me talk.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Of course, absolutely thank you, and we need to go
to Uh Bill Rica massachusettss Rick and Bill Ricer.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Hello, Ricky, how are you? Bradley?
Speaker 8 (27:06):
How are you doing tonight? I'm doing okay. I appreciate
the subject. You're very You're very good about letting people speak,
and uh, I appreciate that a lot, and you're very respectful,
and I appreciate that. And some people don't always show
you that respect back as they should, and they should
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walk the plank, but you're so patient that sometimes you
don't give them the plank. And I appreciate that too.
You're very steadfast patient.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I actually like the plank, and I actually should probably
make them walk the plank a little bit more.
Speaker 8 (27:44):
Playing people like Jeff who he thinks he knows everything.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yeah, I'm aware. I'm always always a little leery of
a person that says I'm a very educated person exactly.
Speaker 8 (27:58):
Et sounds like you know some stuff, but you know,
but you know, But he's got to be a good listener.
So sorry, I'm talking over you as I say that.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Go on, I read the Fauci book, But did he
read anything on the other side. Did he try to
get a balanced view or does he just read one
book and believes that book. That's a dangerous thing. People
read a book and they think because it's a book,
it's got to be true, and that's not the case.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
Yeah, I mean, see, you're getting both sides. You get
a good viewpoint in the middle. Yeah, I got you totally.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
So there might be some truth in it. Usually there's
a little kernel of truth in most things, so it's
it's interesting. I was. I tried to keep an open
mind on that, and yeah, Fauci definitely had his problems.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
Granted, oh yeah, I mean he probably did a lot
of good things, but he definitely I agree with I
agree with Jeff, you know, from what I understand, But yeah,
I probably have to read more, but I agree that
he he kept a lot of stuff from us, and
and I did not. I wasn't happy at the time,
and I didn't get my shot. And the funny thing
(29:07):
is is I I told my friends at the time
when this shot, when when this shot is offered, I'm
going to be the first in line. And then President Trump,
who did the right thing for the emergency decree, gought
the companies to get it out. That was the right
thing to do. They came out with it. And the
problem that I had ultimately, like I think Jeff mentioned
(29:27):
and Doug from Air said it, and you know, the
idea that you were made, there was no debate. You
were made to take it. People like Charlie Baker and
all throughout the US they were governors that said, don't
take it. Lose lose your state job. And I thought
it was a travesty that that happened, you know, without
(29:48):
any choice, and only because we didn't We didn't know
it was new technology. I mean m NRA was had
been around for thirty years, but this was a new technology,
you know, and we didn't know the We didn't know
the after effects or the pros and cons. So it
should have been recommended, but not. No one ever should
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have been made to take it.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I should kids be allowed in public school without having
taken it?
Speaker 6 (30:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (30:21):
Absolutely, I think I think so, Yeah, absolutely. I mean
we didn't know. Again, this wasn't a tried and true
tested thing. It wasn't tested after he didn't have time.
It was on an emergency decree. It had to be done.
President Trump did the right thing. But these drug companies
should I believe they should have said no mandates, just
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tell them it's good if they take it, but no mandates.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
So one thing is it's easy. You know, hindsight is
pretty accurate, and we didn't know what the heck was
going on then, so true, you know, people were dying initially.
Now it's like no big deal. So it's tough to
remember that people were in in hallways on stretchers because
there was no room, dying in the hall. My significant
(31:12):
other works at mass General Hospital and had to see that,
you know, pretty routine people dying of COVID, and most
people didn't have to watch that. And so, as I say,
time heels and time heels wounds and also makes you forget,
so which is a good thing kind of because if
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you have some painful thing, it's good to forget. But
that was a terrible, terrible time the first six months
and it was just awful.
Speaker 7 (31:41):
So was.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
There might have been some overreaction based on.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
That too, Yeah, but you're right about Monday morning quarterbacking.
You know, it's easy to look in hindsight, but these
nurses were like soldiers in the trenches and they have
PTSD because of it. And then I know many of
them and they said it was horrible. So it's easy
for me to say that, and I only say it
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because it wasn't tested, but it was the best that
was offered at the time, and would ultimately find out
that you'd still get COVID getting it, But I don't know,
it's a weird thing. And I just want to say, Bradley,
I got a great laugh as you were talking about
the PC behind doctors, you know, not telling you you
got to lose weight. I think you're one hundred percent
(32:28):
on the money, and I think it has to do
it not hurting feelings and be in PC and all
that crop. Doctors of the old days, even forty even
thirty forty years ago would tell you got to lose weight.
And it's okay because it's it's kind. It's cool to
be kind, as Nicholas says, right, you just got to
say what's what's up?
Speaker 6 (32:45):
And I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I think it's that your mil do our society to
normalize obesity.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
Yep. I agree there.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I said that, and I stick. I'll stick. That's my
story and I'm sticking to it.
Speaker 8 (32:58):
I'm sticking to it too.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Always great to hear from me, Rick and Bill. Rick.
Speaker 8 (33:02):
Thanks, I'll talk to you again, brother, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Okay, I'm boring a moment on BZ.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WZ Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yes, indeed, Dan will be back on Thursday. I believe
I'll be in tomorrow and then Dan returns on Thursday.
We have D in Boston. D Hello, thanks for calling us.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Okay, it is so nice to hear your voice. I
love I missed you. I've missed you on being on
the radio on a regular basis. But as far as
healthcare goes, I agree with you that you know, we're
so reactive instead of proactive. And you know, I got
my PCT and unfortunately I'm really underweight. So Jesus, I said, oh,
(33:50):
could I see a dietician or a nutrition Yeah, it's
a great idea. You know, I really eat healthy and
do all the right things, but maybe there's something else
I could do.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I think much you underweight?
Speaker 4 (34:02):
You know what I'm Genetics has a big play is
a big part of it. And I eat super healthy
and I exercise a lot. I mean I eat super
I don't eat any process. I make everything well. You
know you shouldn't be because I do.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Everything looks good when you put on your clothes looks great.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Yeah, it looks good. That it's not healthy when you
get old like me, because you know, if you really
get sick, you know you have to have a little
more weight, you know. But I'm like five foot eight
and I way less than add has a way like
one hundred and nine pounds, and I exercise so much.
I mean, I walk, I do, I do lifting, I
(34:43):
do tennis. I do because I want to stay healthy.
But it's not I mean, I'm I'm really on the
way lights. But I have very my whole family's then
a lot of it is not a lot of it
because I mean, I'm we Well, it's a carb and
carbs turn into sugar, so you know, I mean, I
(35:05):
don't I'm half rabbit. I love lettuce. But I go
I called Blue Cross, Blue Shield, and they go, oh well,
I said no, my doctor said it. Yeah, you know,
maybe there's something else I can do. I'd like to see. Oh, well,
these are the great carbs. Are you overweight? I said no,
I'm not a weight at all. That's what I'm calling you.
A diet drink I drink wine. Yeah, that's all right.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Hard things you can do to gain weight.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Yeah, but that's not the good kind of weight, you know.
You know, I need protein, protein, protein, you know. But
it's just funny that they won't take you if you
if you want to be healthy. They don't want you,
you know, And I say.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Would who would? Who would not take you?
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Blue Cross, Blue Shield won't let me see a dietitian
or a nutritionist, because the requirements to see them are
are you a diabetic? No, I'm not. Are you obese? No,
I'm not. So to try to stay healthy because you're underweight,
I said, know what my doctor said, I could see one. No,
(36:08):
not at all, Not at all. No, I I have
I can eat a lot. But even you know, I
was pregnant, I put on twenty pounds. That's act. How
could you do that? I said, you know, it's just
it's my whole family. No, we eat really really healthy,
super duper healthy. You know, it's just my I believe
too that A lot of it is your jeans, but
it is eating, you.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Know, desires for food. You true. By the way, I
don't eat any dessert. That's that's one good thing about man.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
No. I love spinach, I love I love lettuce.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Come on all humans, No, I.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Really don't you up like that? No, No, I would.
I haven't eaten bacon in years.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I wouldn't either, because I like I like pigs and
I don't want to ye.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
No, but even even yogurt, I eat clean yogurt. I
could not eat any yogurt that you buy in the
store unless it's playing yogurt.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Just irritated by how healthy you.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Are, like oatmeal, oatmeal, you just have playing oatmeal. You
don't put all that crap in it, sugar in it? Okay,
you know so I don't need any refined.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Sugar all right, So we need to find some fault
with you before. So please, no, I do like so
irritated by your extreme healthy.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
You shouldn't be because I'm too thin. I want to
put what I want, but it's rude. It's rude to
say to people. People say to me all the time, oh,
you're so thin, and I go, well, I wouldn't look
at you and say you're so fast.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
So they're telling you they're giving you a compliment.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
It's not a compliment to be super thin.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
You look you have big knees and sticking out.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
No, no, I don't look anti restic. I just look
very lean.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Well, they're giving you a compliment. So this is like
what your doing is humble bragging kind of right.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
I'm not at all no, because I sit there and say, well,
if you ate like I ate, you wouldn't put it
all ways.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
It sounds serious. If you ate like I ate, you
would not put on. So tell me about a fault
you have. It's got to be something wrong. The cheat
you in ways.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
You like cheese. I love cheese, you know, but cheese
is good because it's got it. It's Jesus, isn't good
for you. It's got all that fatness. And I grew
up No, no, no, I grew up in a family
where we had you know, we just ate so healthy.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
That I get that. I guess that's where we're at.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Anything else, yeah, no, just that I missed you, and
and that our healthcare system needs to be more focused
on keeping people healthy rather than reactive, you know, just
give them a pillow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well listen, thanks
so much, and angel listening to you.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Thank you very very much, these very nice persons. But
let's face it, she made us all feel very bad.
You know, no matter what she does, you can't gain weight. Man,
oh man, do I wish I could just eat pasta
all day? Don't you imagine that someday there'll be a
(39:18):
pill you can just have spaghetti, boloonnaise and and red
wine and as much beer as you wanted. That's a fantasy.
Six one, seven, two, five, four thirty is our number
here and they have about well, I only have two minutes,
(39:45):
so next hour will be open lines still, but you
can continue with vaccinations of course, and any comments on
that incident on Commonwealth Avenue. I would welcome. What are
your thoughts about the man who allegedly well charged with
(40:05):
murder for running into somebody on the comm This is
so horrific and the thing that not to diminish the
value of the human life, but the dog factor that
if I were on a jury and I know that
(40:28):
the dog got killed as well, I mean, you may
have a beef with the human, but just you didn't
need to. It's difficult to say, but you know what
I'm getting at. It's it's additionally terrible that the dog
was killed. I love dogs. It's sad to me that
some people don't like dogs and they're afraid of them.
(40:49):
I think they're missing out. I love dogs so much.
How about you, folks, anything you want to chat about?
This is a good time. You'll have plenty of time
here on WBZ. The number six, one, seven, two, ten
thirty
It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBS Boston's Me Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Ourban lines now fairly open. We were talking about vaccines
and since the flu is really serious now and very prevalent,
might be a good productive thing to talk about. And
I was comparing the Denmark program vaccination program with the
(00:28):
US one. But I really want to know where you're
at on the vaccines. Have you were you a an
anti vaccin that's changed, or where you went to vaccines
before and then decided against it. Now I have Margie
and the Catskills. Hello Margie.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
While I was waiting, I just thought of a disease
that my daughter had when she was little, and all
her friends had. And I think you might be too
young for this, but it was the I certainly heard.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Of the croup. It's a cough that babies get. Right.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
No, they were like they could be in grade school.
But I'll tell you it was the most frightening thing
ever and it seemed to be the only cure in
that day.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
And they whooped.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
It was like ooping off the croup. And you would
take them into the bathroom, shut the door, turn the
shower on full blast, so the whole bathroom was full
of steam and then the child could breathe. It was
the most frightening thing.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Wow, I remember back in the day. I know we're
just talking about back in the day memories of diseases.
I had measles, and I had everything. But I remember
one time I had to get in the tub with
it like oatmeal.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yes, yes, what was that for?
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
You had a tremendous rash. The measles was the worst
rash because it left scars. But chicken pox, that's the
one you usually got in the tub with the oat meal.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
That's Does that make me old? Kind of?
Speaker 6 (02:07):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Well, I'll just give you. I mean, I cannot tell
you how important it is to have vaccines, especially that
RSV if you have any lung or heart problems. Very important.
But I just want to mention something that an earlier
person went through, and I'll give you a quick list
(02:28):
of my childhood. I had, of course, measles, chicken pox,
hooping cough, the whole thing. I had a broken leg,
both bones in my legs, screws put in. I had
a ruptured appendix. It ruptured for three days before I
knew it. So I had pyridonitis and blood poisoning. I
(02:49):
had open heart surgery where they took it, took an
oscillating saw and open you up. And then I had shingles,
which are those? Do you think was the most painful? Yes,
I swear I would have taken If there was a river,
I would have jumped in it. It was exactly like
(03:13):
someone had taken a boiling kettle of water and poured
it over my back. And there's no relief for it's
there's nothing they can give you that'll stop it. So
I ended up going to the baby section where they
sell an oxide for diaper rash, that white oxide that
(03:35):
lifeguards put on their noses and that sort of help.
But there is nothing that touches shingles with any other pain.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Wow. So Doug, Doug's in air, he had shingles and
he still wouldn't get vaccinated. He really doesn't like the vaccinations.
I'll tell you about Doug. He's all or nothing guy's
when he's into something, he's all the way in to KETO,
to to CBD too. His uh, the deep Christian religion
(04:12):
that he formed that he believes in, he's all in on.
He's all in on anti vaccine too. He seems that
you would suffer, suffer very much and rather than take
a vaccination.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Well that's fine for him. And his experience with shingles
was not mine. I had a friend that had it.
It was very light. It was a totally different experience.
Mine was like my waist was encircled with burning blisters.
I mean I cannot. I mean it was just beyond
any pain. With open heart surgery, everything Rupter Appendix, nothing
(04:49):
came close to shingles. So please, if you can get
a vaccine, I just urged people to do that.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So before you go. You made a big point of saying,
get the RSV vaccine.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Why because I have heart failure and pulmonary lung disease.
Definitely for these people.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, do you smoke?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Ah, I gave it up many many years ago when
it was sixty five cents a pack.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well, thanks so much, Margie and the cats Skills. It's
pleasure to speak to you as always.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Thank you, of course.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And now we got a regular crew on next we
have first Jeff in Abington. Hello, Jeff, Hello, Yes, we
have a little more time now, so you can go ahead.
And before you wanted to talk about Anthony Fauci.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Well, I think that's a lot of reason why people
don't want get vaccines. They don't trust the medical community.
And he was in charge of everything, and everybody just
first the darctors would just go along with anything he said.
In ninety of things he said were wrong. So what
(06:05):
that's why the medical community it's going to take generations
to get the trust back from the people ruined the
He ruined.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
The trust he did all by himself. Wow.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
So no, the doctors following like sheep, never questioning him
because they were in fear of him.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Why would they.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
Be in fear of him, because you would cut off
the money. They would lose their jobs if they went
to iv a mechtin or other other cures for the
CONTI right.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I see, okay, I do remember he The first thing
I remember he was wrong about was masks. I thought
at first he said don't wear a mask, and then
he said do wear a mask or the other way around.
There was something he was he changed his mind on masks.
That was funny. I don't I don't know why.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Well, I'll tell you why. Because he said, if you
wear a mask, you'll be touching your face a lot.
Then he said don't wear a mask because you touching
your faith. Then he said we're a mask. Then he
said we're too masks. The guy was all over the place. Okay,
And he was not a good guy either.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
He was a bad guy in addition to being wrong.
How was he bad?
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Well? Have you ever read what he did in the
eighties with the aides?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
No, and tell me what is your source?
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Robert S. Kennedy's book?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Oh, okay, did you ever read it? No?
Speaker 6 (07:37):
But go ahead, I recommend it to you.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
He held experiments on offen children. It's never talked about,
but it's all documented.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
All right, all right? If I cannot confirm nor deny that,
you say that it's an rfk's book.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
Yes, And I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I actually don't know what to think about RFK because
he is now actively Okay, wait, let me finish my sentence, Jeph.
He is actively. He's telling people that lime disease is
real and he wants to see lime disease research and
treatment worked on. And I'm a big fan of that,
I will say, But on other things, Uh, you know,
(08:25):
I don't know. How do you feel about the chlorine thing?
Chlorine in the water.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Me floor right in the water.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Oh yeah, sorry, yeah, he wants.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
To take it out of the water.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 6 (08:37):
I really don't care either word?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
All right, I mean fair enough. Tell me what else
is in the book, the RFK book that you read.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Okay, you won't cut me off.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
It depends on if you're You cut.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Me off twice three times?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
No, that's not true.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
How come we come me off?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
The first time you hung up on yourself or something.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Then the other time we had limited time and you
started to go off course and I didn't Anthony Faulchier.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
That's all I say. Was Anthony Fauci. Bang I hear it?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Okay, let's not argue about that. Tell me what was
inn Rfk's book?
Speaker 6 (09:24):
He did experiments on often children in New York City.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
He told me that anything else is interesting in the book,
there must be.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
He talks about foulchi are we He did not want
to go to Vietnam. He stayed out of That's why
he didn't go to Vietnam as a doctor.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Was there anything about in there that was not about Fauci?
Speaker 6 (09:51):
No, it was all about Foch.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
He did a whole I didn't know that I'd have
to read this book.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
What's the name of the book, the real Anthony Faulchi.
You never heard of book?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
No, I apologize. I can't know everything.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Man, do you ever hear a dance sickles?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
No.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
He was the first guy to have a defense not
guilty by reaving a reason of insanity.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Well, tell me the story. I mean, that's a little
off track, but well this was.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
I'm a very well educated man. I can talk on
different subjects. Really sure, Okay, he killed the grandson of
Francis Scott.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
You know what I sensed that. I sense a fizzling
out here. We should keep it on the topic. Anything
else on healthcare in the In the.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
He was the first man claim not guilty.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I'm going to say goodbye now because that is off topic.
It's not hanging up on you. It's thank you very much.
You're awesome and well educated, and I look forward to
our next call.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
But I don't hang up on me.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I don't know. If I had to describe Jeff to someone,
I don't know what I would say. Let's take a
break on WBZ, It's.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Night Side with Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Hello, my friends, Welcome, tonight's side, Brady Jay and for
Dan tonight, glad to have you with us. We have
let's see, we have Robert and Tom and Rick. We'll
go to Robert and Bill Rick the first Hello Robert.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
He everybuddy, How are ya? I be near you?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
You too?
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Yeah? So yeah, you know, the topic is great because
I don't take vax and not, but not because of Foshy.
You know, I don't think that that's where it start.
It start with, you know, every time become money driven.
You know, there's a lot of people heard all the
(11:57):
American greed, the doctors doing this, and he had the
pandemic up. People taking those pills. I'll see Cota and
so you really, people is not trusting the medical feel
and I think that's what it is. It's not doctor
Frauci that you know, because we had a president told
us to drink kroogs. You know. So the thing is, I, well,
(12:23):
it's funny the lady I talked before him, she mentioned, yeah,
I had chicken pox. I never had the other one,
but three months ago I ended up with shingles. And
I remember because I don't take vaccine, and my lady
kept saying go ahead and serious will you get your medication,
take the you know, take the shingle shots. She took it.
(12:46):
I didn't want to take it and then and I
don't I remember in twenty eleven, twelve, I take the
flu shot and then I got sick, and I never
take it since then. And I've been doing fine because
the only thing I think I've been doing for since then,
it's taking my vitamin DC, uh, you know, magnesium, and
(13:08):
I think I'm doing well. I haven't been sick like
I used to.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
So you did that.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
First of all, you did get stings. Did you get
a lot of pain?
Speaker 7 (13:17):
No, it's funny that she mentioned that. I didn't realize that,
like she said. But I was lucky because when I
went to the hospital and they said, well, it's on
the left side of your back and the left side
of your uh, you know, my stomach. So it wasn't
all over, but it was like painful, but it wasn't
(13:40):
that much painful. But when I went to the doctor,
like she said, they said, it could have been a
lot worse. So I was lucky enough. And they didn't
give me a shot. They just give me a prescription
and they give me So why didn't you want to
take that shot because I just don't believe in the
farm musical people anymore. It's just like.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Because you don't trust the medical community.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Yeah, I don't trust the doctors and stuff. Yeah. Yeah,
because I got a primary doctor. As long as I
do my routine blood work, my cholesterol, my blood pressure.
He asked the doctor about the vaccines, Yeah, I asked,
But well, the thing, I don't trust the doctors. Like
(14:26):
it's like I don't trust them for everything, but I
don't trust them because they always going to push the
flu that I mean, the shot for the flu and
the shot for whatever, because it's it's part of the
pharmaceutical you know game. To me, that story, I do that.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Do they make money when the pharmaceutical people make money?
Speaker 7 (14:50):
Yeah, because you know, like you know, if you heard
like how much money there is in that field.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yes, there's a lot of money in field. But do doctor,
is it your understanding that doctors somehow make money? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (15:06):
They get they get kickbacks. Yeah, they get kicked keep
skickbacks and pushing things because it's just like they telling you.
You see the doctor that driving in Lamborghini, he has
so much operation when he didn't have to do it
and then you find out like you know, you have
a kid, and then you really didn't need the C section,
(15:27):
But that's costs more money. So it becomes a vulture
of capitalism, and that's what the country become. So now
people make sure that they really you know, they people
are paying more attention to what they want to do
because it's all about money.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So this must be a difficult situation for you because
you since you don't trust your doctor at all, you
don't know what to do, and the doctor tells you
to get an operation, you don't know whether to believe
the doctor or not.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
Right, that's true. Yeah, I have to be in pain,
and I have to be I really, I have no choice. Yeah,
for me to do it like you know, I do
cool on hoscopy, you know, I'll do the routine thing.
But for me to uh, you know, take shots and
and I just don't trust, I don't trust.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be stressful to not trust
at all, to trust the medical community at all. It
must be stressed.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Yeah, it is. It is because I was ruining myself
because they put me in two pails for my blood pressure,
one for you know, it's a water pail and the
other one different. And I skipped many times, you know,
because because I asked them. I asked my doctor one time,
I said, what's this cause? What dis cause?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
What this cause?
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Because somebody was telling me he put down your libertals,
there's this spill. And I said to the doctor, come,
you didn't tell me that. And then and then you said, well,
you know, and then I asked about I was going
to when my mom died, I was going to very
difficult time, and prescribed me a depression pill. And then
(17:15):
I take you know, they don't they don't educate you
what it caused.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
That's why I appreciate that, Robert. I have other folks
that need to chat, but thank you so much. You know,
one thing one beef I have in the medical community
is they're afraid to tell you when you're overweight. There's
so many diseases that would ease up if you lost weight.
They're afraid to tell you because of political correctness. You
(17:43):
know that's a fact. I mean, I don't know if
it's a fact. I truly believe they don't tell you.
They're afraid to tell you, Hey, you're obese, you got
to lose weight. They don't say that. The reason I
say they don't say that is because they didn't say
it to me. Really, I was two hundred and nine
(18:05):
pounds I was supposed to be one sixty five, so
I was overweight. I have since lost weight. The doctor's
never said lose weight. Instead, they would, you know, say
you need to take this pill or that pill. They
didn't say lose weight. If we all lost weight and
it's hard, it's hard work. I'm doing it now, I'm
always doing it. There's so many pills you wouldn't have
(18:28):
to take. You'd be so much healthier. Do you think
they do you think? And I don't want to feed
into the conspiracy, but how many of you believe that
the reason they don't tell you that you're overweight rather
than issue medication is that they want you to spend
(18:48):
money on medication or do you think it's because it's
politically incorrect to say, Hey, you overweight and we're in
this situation. We're supposed to celebrate yourself as you are,
but that's not okay. If the way you are is unhealthy,
I would think it would be their job to either
(19:12):
cure you or prevent illness. In the most natural way possible,
And I would think it would be all doctor's duty
to first tell you gotta change your lifestyle. Don't come
back and see me until you've lost twenty pounds. I
don't know they should really drill down on that, and
(19:35):
I think they should be able to write prescriptions for
the gym actually, and the churance should pay and they
should be more millincant about you losing weight. Right after
the break, we're going to talk to Rick and Tom
on WBZ.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Leave you Dan next to Tom North, Carolina. Tom, Hello, sir, Hello,
how are you?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Well enough?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Okay. I'm a believer in vaccines. I have taken many vaccines,
not had much problem with many of them, no severe reactions.
Of course, I'm seventy two. So I saw what polio
did to people when I was very young, and we
(20:32):
were all glad to get the vaccine then, and it
was applied on a sugar cube, so there were no injections,
and I can remember lines of people I was just
a small child, then lines of people walking into school
gymnasiums receiving the sugar cube out of a tiny paper cup,
putting it on your tongue, showing your tongue to a
(20:54):
person at the door as you exited to make sure
you'd taken it. And we were all eager to get it.
And now it seems so many people have not lived
with these diseases that they think that we don't need
them anymore. But I think that's a fallacy. When you
have influenza, and you have it repeatedly, you know about
(21:16):
every time you have it, your lungs don't function as
well afterwards, and you're coughing and all that, and you
finally recover, but then down the road you get it
many many times. You subject yourself more to these complications
of the heart, complications of the lungs. So we get
to be a very old person, you have emphysema or
or something like that, which is horrible to die from.
(21:38):
And so to avoid all this, I'd much rather have vaccines.
And as you said, something about masks, and would wearing
masks help keep the numbers of viruses down from getting
into you? And I've seen studies online where two persons
wearing a mask talking to each other would vastly reduce
(22:01):
the amount of inoculum that would go back and forth
the viruses, and you know, we did social distancing at
six feet and all that. I saw many people weren't
wearing masks, and they were or they were wearing masks
sometimes and they would converse for thirty forty minutes together
(22:22):
in a supermarket just because they met each other, hadn't
seen each other in a while, and they would be
only four or five feet from each other, not really
taking full advantage of what was recommended. And what's more,
if you remember, it was one season there where everybody
was recommended to wear masks and suddenly there was a
very little flu. Even though the mask wearing was supposed
(22:44):
to curb the spread of cobed covid virus, it also
had a great detriment in spreading the flu. So we
had a very light flu season that way. That season
in Asia. You go to Asia, and people wear masks
all the time if they feel even the slightest bit
sick or if they want to avoid sickness, and it's
(23:05):
real commonplace.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I hear you, I'm going to start wearing mask on
the crowded subway. I'm going on a trip and I
don't want to get the flu just before the trip.
That would be a bummer.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Yeah. An N ninety five mask, if you can get
one of those, is proven, you know, by research, to
be a better than just the standard surgical mask. That's
why Anthony Fauci was suggesting people wear two masks, because
they were learning through a lot of research that the
standard surgical mask, especially when worn incorrectly the way many
(23:38):
people wear them, it doesn't do you much good. But
an N ninety five mask, which you can purchase in
stores and hardware stores and things like that, like the
big box stores and stuff, they tend to be more
effective than and maybe even a little bit more comfortable
than the standard surgical mask.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Right. You're right about people not wearing it properly. They
just put it over their mouths, right, or they just
keep it under their chin. Have you heard a mask
referred to as a chin diaper? I think that's funny
and very accurate. Yes, walking around the mask on their chin.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Yeah, or or putting it over on their mouths only
and letting their nose stick out. And that's not effective either. Uh.
I looked through microscopes as a child. I looked at
through microscopes in high school. And college. And I never
had a microscope, you know, powerful enough to see viruses.
But I saw plenty of bacterias, lots of phoco spores.
(24:39):
I was a county agricultural agent with a master's degree
in horticulture with a minor and plant mythology, so I
was educated about plant diseases. Sometimes people said I was
like a doctor of plants, and uh. And they get
viruses too, and they get bacterial diseases, and they have
(25:01):
fungal diseases and nematodes and various things like that. And
all these are very tiny, and most people who've never
been exposed to looking at them don't realize they're present.
But there's a very good book by Paul Dekruff, first
(25:22):
published in nineteen twenty six and reprinted nineteen fifty three,
and it reads like a novel, and it's a description
of how our history developed. You can read on Wikipedia
about it. That's Microbe Hunters is the name of the book,
(25:42):
and it describes all about how people developed the current vaccines,
including people like the man who invented the Petri dish,
for whom the Petri dish is named for. I think
his first name was Julius Petrie, and he was an
employee of Robert Koch, who was a German who was
(26:02):
lived at the same time as Louis Pasteur and from
whom we get the word pasteurization. And I think it's
a great failing that general society does not learn the
history of these people and these developments like Lewis, or
like John Edward Jenner, the first person who developed a
(26:27):
cow pox vaccine that kept smallpox away. And then you know,
I had a smallpox vacations or inoculation scratched into my
arm as a child, and smallpox completely went away. We
haven't had a case of it worldwide since nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
Only yep.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I understand your point. I probably shouldn't let else someone
else in, but I really appreciate your.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
I'll be glad to let you go, but thank you
very much for letting me talk.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Of course, absolutely thank you, and we need to go
to Uh Bill Rica massachusettss Rick and Bill Ricer.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Hello, Ricky, how are you? Bradley?
Speaker 8 (27:06):
How are you doing tonight? I'm doing okay. I appreciate
the subject. You're very You're very good about letting people speak,
and uh, I appreciate that a lot, and you're very respectful,
and I appreciate that. And some people don't always show
you that respect back as they should, and they should
(27:26):
walk the plank, but you're so patient that sometimes you
don't give them the plank. And I appreciate that too.
You're very steadfast patient.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I actually like the plank, and I actually should probably
make them walk the plank a little bit more.
Speaker 8 (27:44):
Playing people like Jeff who he thinks he knows everything.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yeah, I'm aware. I'm always always a little leery of
a person that says I'm a very educated person exactly.
Speaker 8 (27:58):
Et sounds like you know some stuff, but you know,
but you know, But he's got to be a good listener.
So sorry, I'm talking over you as I say that.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Go on, I read the Fauci book, But did he
read anything on the other side. Did he try to
get a balanced view or does he just read one
book and believes that book. That's a dangerous thing. People
read a book and they think because it's a book,
it's got to be true, and that's not the case.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
Yeah, I mean, see, you're getting both sides. You get
a good viewpoint in the middle. Yeah, I got you totally.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
So there might be some truth in it. Usually there's
a little kernel of truth in most things, so it's
it's interesting. I was. I tried to keep an open
mind on that, and yeah, Fauci definitely had his problems.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
Granted, oh yeah, I mean he probably did a lot
of good things, but he definitely I agree with I
agree with Jeff, you know, from what I understand, But yeah,
I probably have to read more, but I agree that
he he kept a lot of stuff from us, and
and I did not. I wasn't happy at the time,
and I didn't get my shot. And the funny thing
(29:07):
is is I I told my friends at the time
when this shot, when when this shot is offered, I'm
going to be the first in line. And then President Trump,
who did the right thing for the emergency decree, gought
the companies to get it out. That was the right
thing to do. They came out with it. And the
problem that I had ultimately, like I think Jeff mentioned
(29:27):
and Doug from Air said it, and you know, the
idea that you were made, there was no debate. You
were made to take it. People like Charlie Baker and
all throughout the US they were governors that said, don't
take it. Lose lose your state job. And I thought
it was a travesty that that happened, you know, without
(29:48):
any choice, and only because we didn't We didn't know
it was new technology. I mean m NRA was had
been around for thirty years, but this was a new technology,
you know, and we didn't know the We didn't know
the after effects or the pros and cons. So it
should have been recommended, but not. No one ever should
(30:10):
have been made to take it.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I should kids be allowed in public school without having
taken it?
Speaker 6 (30:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (30:21):
Absolutely, I think I think so, Yeah, absolutely. I mean
we didn't know. Again, this wasn't a tried and true
tested thing. It wasn't tested after he didn't have time.
It was on an emergency decree. It had to be done.
President Trump did the right thing. But these drug companies
should I believe they should have said no mandates, just
(30:45):
tell them it's good if they take it, but no mandates.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
So one thing is it's easy. You know, hindsight is
pretty accurate, and we didn't know what the heck was
going on then, so true, you know, people were dying initially.
Now it's like no big deal. So it's tough to
remember that people were in in hallways on stretchers because
there was no room, dying in the hall. My significant
(31:12):
other works at mass General Hospital and had to see that,
you know, pretty routine people dying of COVID, and most
people didn't have to watch that. And so, as I say,
time heels and time heels wounds and also makes you forget,
so which is a good thing kind of because if
(31:34):
you have some painful thing, it's good to forget. But
that was a terrible, terrible time the first six months
and it was just awful.
Speaker 7 (31:41):
So was.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
There might have been some overreaction based on.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
That too, Yeah, but you're right about Monday morning quarterbacking.
You know, it's easy to look in hindsight, but these
nurses were like soldiers in the trenches and they have
PTSD because of it. And then I know many of
them and they said it was horrible. So it's easy
for me to say that, and I only say it
(32:07):
because it wasn't tested, but it was the best that
was offered at the time, and would ultimately find out
that you'd still get COVID getting it, But I don't know,
it's a weird thing. And I just want to say, Bradley,
I got a great laugh as you were talking about
the PC behind doctors, you know, not telling you you
got to lose weight. I think you're one hundred percent
(32:28):
on the money, and I think it has to do
it not hurting feelings and be in PC and all
that crop. Doctors of the old days, even forty even
thirty forty years ago would tell you got to lose weight.
And it's okay because it's it's kind. It's cool to
be kind, as Nicholas says, right, you just got to
say what's what's up?
Speaker 6 (32:45):
And I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I think it's that your mil do our society to
normalize obesity.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
Yep. I agree there.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I said that, and I stick. I'll stick. That's my
story and I'm sticking to it.
Speaker 8 (32:58):
I'm sticking to it too.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Always great to hear from me, Rick and Bill. Rick.
Speaker 8 (33:02):
Thanks, I'll talk to you again, brother, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Okay, I'm boring a moment on BZ.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WZ Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yes, indeed, Dan will be back on Thursday. I believe
I'll be in tomorrow and then Dan returns on Thursday.
We have D in Boston. D Hello, thanks for calling us.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Okay, it is so nice to hear your voice. I
love I missed you. I've missed you on being on
the radio on a regular basis. But as far as
healthcare goes, I agree with you that you know, we're
so reactive instead of proactive. And you know, I got
my PCT and unfortunately I'm really underweight. So Jesus, I said, oh,
(33:50):
could I see a dietician or a nutrition Yeah, it's
a great idea. You know, I really eat healthy and
do all the right things, but maybe there's something else
I could do.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I think much you underweight?
Speaker 4 (34:02):
You know what I'm Genetics has a big play is
a big part of it. And I eat super healthy
and I exercise a lot. I mean I eat super
I don't eat any process. I make everything well. You
know you shouldn't be because I do.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Everything looks good when you put on your clothes looks great.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Yeah, it looks good. That it's not healthy when you
get old like me, because you know, if you really
get sick, you know you have to have a little
more weight, you know. But I'm like five foot eight
and I way less than add has a way like
one hundred and nine pounds, and I exercise so much.
I mean, I walk, I do, I do lifting, I
(34:43):
do tennis. I do because I want to stay healthy.
But it's not I mean, I'm I'm really on the
way lights. But I have very my whole family's then
a lot of it is not a lot of it
because I mean, I'm we Well, it's a carb and
carbs turn into sugar, so you know, I mean, I
(35:05):
don't I'm half rabbit. I love lettuce. But I go
I called Blue Cross, Blue Shield, and they go, oh well,
I said no, my doctor said it. Yeah, you know,
maybe there's something else I can do. I'd like to see. Oh, well,
these are the great carbs. Are you overweight? I said no,
I'm not a weight at all. That's what I'm calling you.
A diet drink I drink wine. Yeah, that's all right.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Hard things you can do to gain weight.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Yeah, but that's not the good kind of weight, you know.
You know, I need protein, protein, protein, you know. But
it's just funny that they won't take you if you
if you want to be healthy. They don't want you,
you know, And I say.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Would who would? Who would not take you?
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Blue Cross, Blue Shield won't let me see a dietitian
or a nutritionist, because the requirements to see them are
are you a diabetic? No, I'm not. Are you obese? No,
I'm not. So to try to stay healthy because you're underweight,
I said, know what my doctor said, I could see one. No,
(36:08):
not at all, Not at all. No, I I have
I can eat a lot. But even you know, I
was pregnant, I put on twenty pounds. That's act. How
could you do that? I said, you know, it's just
it's my whole family. No, we eat really really healthy,
super duper healthy. You know, it's just my I believe
too that A lot of it is your jeans, but
it is eating, you.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Know, desires for food. You true. By the way, I
don't eat any dessert. That's that's one good thing about man.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
No. I love spinach, I love I love lettuce.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Come on all humans, No, I.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Really don't you up like that? No, No, I would.
I haven't eaten bacon in years.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I wouldn't either, because I like I like pigs and
I don't want to ye.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
No, but even even yogurt, I eat clean yogurt. I
could not eat any yogurt that you buy in the
store unless it's playing yogurt.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Just irritated by how healthy you.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Are, like oatmeal, oatmeal, you just have playing oatmeal. You
don't put all that crap in it, sugar in it? Okay,
you know so I don't need any refined.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Sugar all right, So we need to find some fault
with you before. So please, no, I do like so
irritated by your extreme healthy.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
You shouldn't be because I'm too thin. I want to
put what I want, but it's rude. It's rude to
say to people. People say to me all the time, oh,
you're so thin, and I go, well, I wouldn't look
at you and say you're so fast.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
So they're telling you they're giving you a compliment.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
It's not a compliment to be super thin.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
You look you have big knees and sticking out.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
No, no, I don't look anti restic. I just look
very lean.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Well, they're giving you a compliment. So this is like
what your doing is humble bragging kind of right.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
I'm not at all no, because I sit there and say, well,
if you ate like I ate, you wouldn't put it
all ways.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
It sounds serious. If you ate like I ate, you
would not put on. So tell me about a fault
you have. It's got to be something wrong. The cheat
you in ways.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
You like cheese. I love cheese, you know, but cheese
is good because it's got it. It's Jesus, isn't good
for you. It's got all that fatness. And I grew
up No, no, no, I grew up in a family
where we had you know, we just ate so healthy.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
That I get that. I guess that's where we're at.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Anything else, yeah, no, just that I missed you, and
and that our healthcare system needs to be more focused
on keeping people healthy rather than reactive, you know, just
give them a pillow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well listen, thanks
so much, and angel listening to you.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Thank you very very much, these very nice persons. But
let's face it, she made us all feel very bad.
You know, no matter what she does, you can't gain weight. Man,
oh man, do I wish I could just eat pasta
all day? Don't you imagine that someday there'll be a
(39:18):
pill you can just have spaghetti, boloonnaise and and red
wine and as much beer as you wanted. That's a fantasy.
Six one, seven, two, five, four thirty is our number
here and they have about well, I only have two minutes,
(39:45):
so next hour will be open lines still, but you
can continue with vaccinations of course, and any comments on
that incident on Commonwealth Avenue. I would welcome. What are
your thoughts about the man who allegedly well charged with
(40:05):
murder for running into somebody on the comm This is
so horrific and the thing that not to diminish the
value of the human life, but the dog factor that
if I were on a jury and I know that
(40:28):
the dog got killed as well, I mean, you may
have a beef with the human, but just you didn't
need to. It's difficult to say, but you know what
I'm getting at. It's it's additionally terrible that the dog
was killed. I love dogs. It's sad to me that
some people don't like dogs and they're afraid of them.
(40:49):
I think they're missing out. I love dogs so much.
How about you, folks, anything you want to chat about?
This is a good time. You'll have plenty of time
here on WBZ. The number six, one, seven, two, ten
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